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Speaker 1: Christmas Tree Decorating Contest finalist galat tonight.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodungks podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, December sixth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: I'm j E. Skis here in the Classic Factory and

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Speaker 3: alongside me, as always Test.

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Speaker 3: stream teamers are already debating that controversial time out in

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Speaker 3: the Lakers game. But before we get to all that,

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Speaker 3: I told you about getting mugs as the perfect stocking stuffer.

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Speaker 2: Agree you think of red as the predominant color around

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Speaker 2: the holidays. Don't sleep on green, is what we're saying here.

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Speaker 3: Do you think you look better in red or green?

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Speaker 3: Tough colors for some people.

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Speaker 1: Really tough? Yeah, better, they're just both great. I would

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Speaker 1: say I look great in both. I think we're horrible

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Speaker 1: in both. It depends. It depends on the garment, It.

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Speaker 3: Depends on your on your look that day.

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Speaker 3: Uh so go to no dunk dot Com for your merch. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we had a weggie last night. Take it away, Eagle

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Speaker 3: and Reggie LaForce Davis.

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Speaker 1: Oh lock shot weggie. This is like an eclipse Reggie.

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Speaker 1: That is the first ever eighty season tournament weggie.

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Speaker 3: Eagle as weggie number ten. That's good. The pace is

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Speaker 3: first ever actual in season tournament weggie. But hey, look

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Speaker 3: block weggie. That's true. That's the first one this season.

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Speaker 3: And thanks everybody for tagging us and tweeting at us

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Speaker 3: and good stuff there at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 3: with that one. And here's the headline. Lebron and the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: They snag the last semi final spot after a controversial

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Speaker 3: Sure, let me set the scene. Lakers up to eleven

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Speaker 3: Did anybody actually have the ball? Did Reeves really have

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Speaker 1: The Lakers said, Okay, you guys shoot seventy five times. No, no,

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Speaker 1: take care of that. They just got second chance points

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Speaker 1: after second chance points in this game, and Austin Reeves

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Speaker 3: Real we'll probably find out about the last two minute report.

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Speaker 2: It looked like the ball was loose when the timeout

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Speaker 2: pants guy taking the videos that we can actually see

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Speaker 2: when Reeves has the ball trapped on his leg. Lebron

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Speaker 2: foul on Booker. He comes over to foul Austin reeves,

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Speaker 2: they don't call it, so then he goes into a

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Speaker 1: I thought he kind of just held up for a second.

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Speaker 1: He bumped him, there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was kind of just standing there. That

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Speaker 1: They will probably just to sell a little bit. He

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Speaker 3: To foul or yeah, obviously coffee and the steel. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Vogels was pissed. He's like, of course, He's like, it's

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Speaker 3: a loose ball. You can't call a time out during

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Speaker 3: a loose ball, the whistle blows. I don't know why

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Speaker 3: everything in the league is reviewable. I don't know why

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Speaker 3: they can't be reviewable. We got the trap, we got

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Speaker 3: the turnover, and the damn whistle blows. It's just frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Of course he's gonna be frustrated. But to speak to

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Speaker 3: what you were saying, their task, Kevin Durant was like,

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Speaker 3: who cares about that? We played like shit, Like you know,

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Speaker 3: him and Booker turned the ball over combined twelve times.

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Speaker 3: As a team, they had twenty two turnovers, which led

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Speaker 3: the first quarter they had ten turnovers. It was amazing

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Speaker 3: they were even in this game. Yeah, so you know

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Speaker 3: again that one play, Sure, that sucks. They got the

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Speaker 3: you probably get this victory. Hold onto the ball five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, twenty two hard over and then they allowed

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Speaker 2: twenty two offensive rebounds. So, like tass is saying, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five extra attempts really comes through and that's why

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Speaker 1: And he had a great night shooting the ball. It

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Speaker 1: I thought Cam Reddish was pretty good on Booker throughout

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Speaker 2: Pretty good at slapping him in the face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they hated, they wanted to. I know Booker wanted

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Speaker 3: the most part, everybody is. Yeah, these defensive minded wings,

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Speaker 3: they played up and physical and like put the pressure

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Speaker 3: And you know they feel good with Ad behind them

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was exhausted.

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Speaker 3: And you've been calling it for about a month now,

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Speaker 1: People wondering if he's a little too old. So I

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Speaker 3: He played forty minutes, didn't he too. I mean he

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Speaker 3: no doubt, four by five, four by five. There Zilla

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Speaker 3: wrote in his newsletter this morning. Yeah, were more than

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of I just hadn't really thought about

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Speaker 2: it that Lebron won his first title playing against Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 2: Like they've bet the two of the best players in

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Speaker 2: guess we're just gonna have to wait till their careers

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Speaker 3: Any other thoughts on this Lakers victory here and moving on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that record of Bron versus Kevin Durant in the

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Speaker 3: What is he eighteen and six Lebron now against him

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, eighteen wins, six losses. It's a

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Speaker 2: Any other notes, TK, I mean, Austin Reeves was awesome

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Speaker 2: really really U celebrating that one. The Lakers really only

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Speaker 2: got good performances from Lebron, Ad and Austin Reeves. Everybody

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Speaker 2: else was in single digits. Nobody else shot over fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: that seems to be the recipe for the Lakers, and

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Speaker 2: That's how they won the championship a few seasons ago.

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Speaker 2: And then we get good performances from Lebron hopefully Ad

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Speaker 1: But he'll clearly play the fourth quarter no matter what

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Speaker 1: And his growth has happened since he was here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he had a very poor game, yeah, turning

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Speaker 3: lot of sporicle quizzes as this one went on. Because

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Speaker 2: One hundred and forty six points is a lot, and

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Speaker 3: We shot sixty percent deep. What the hell is he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just be great defensively in that fourth quarter. They

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Speaker 1: they got leaked easily who was a former Laker. This

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Speaker 1: he just loves to celebrate on playing.

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Speaker 2: Yes he does.

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Speaker 1: He just he does.

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Speaker 3: Wiggles man. Yeah, hit six threes, I mean, wiggle all

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Speaker 1: Forty six percent from three is a good.

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Speaker 3: That right now, a must. That's like all he shoots.

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Speaker 3: It feels like two.

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Speaker 2: He's had four threes or more in five straight games.

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Speaker 2: But if you're making four or five threes a night,

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Speaker 3: you're right tk the way you broke it down there,

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Speaker 3: it's like they were like, you know what, we're tired

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Speaker 3: they're a part of your regular season record. They're fifteen

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Speaker 3: level we can get at. That's scary for the rest

435
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,160
Speaker 3: of the Eastern Conference teams, rest of the league, because

436
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 3: I think there's some truth to it too. Still figuring

437
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 3: out things offensively as great as they've looked with the

438
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 3: Honest and Dame and and then on the defensive end

439
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 3: is where they need to just like maybe for longer

440
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 3: stretches when you get into you know, stronger competition to

441
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,160
Speaker 3: actually win a series. But it's a good start. Nine

442
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,879
Speaker 3: and l at home that's also good. So you know,

443
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 3: if you're the Pacers, you're saying, that's only six and

444
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,160
Speaker 3: six on the road.

445
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:36,800
Speaker 2: We got a chance.

446
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right right right, well, oh man, this is

447
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 3: a neutral court here, yeah, Thursday night. Yeah, although the

448
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 3: Bucks are the home team, I guess they will they

449
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 3: hand out the Cream City rags to the people in

450
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 3: attendance at two o'clock in Vegas.

451
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying the Central Division is

452
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Speaker 2: the strongest in the entire NBA.

453
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Speaker 3: Are they?

454
00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 2: Uh huh? Yeah, I heard a lot of that.

455
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 3: Chicago bullser in that, aren't they. So there's the knockout

456
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 3: rounds the semifinals coming up on Thursday, five pm Eastern

457
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 3: ESPN and then nine pm Eastern on tn T. You

458
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 3: remember they got they gotta clear out the arena after

459
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 3: that first game, got to pick up all those Cream

460
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 3: City rags. I hate to have that job. But we

461
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 3: also learned that ESPN and T and T are doing

462
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 3: this like cross promotion when it comes to the broadcast.

463
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Speaker 3: So ESPN's Mike Breen and Doris Burke will be joined

464
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Speaker 3: by TNT analyst Reggie Miller for the early game, and

465
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 3: then TNT's Kevin Harlan and Candice Parker will be joined

466
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Speaker 3: by ESPN's Doc Rivers to call the action for the

467
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Speaker 3: second game. And then in addition to the game telecasts,

468
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 3: you know, these guys are collaborating with the pregame coverage

469
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Speaker 3: and all of that. So you're gonna have the Inside

470
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,239
Speaker 3: the NBA team appearing on ESPN's NBA Countdown for an

471
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Speaker 3: extended segment, they say, and then vice versa. A lot

472
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Speaker 3: of the Countdown people will then be on Inside the NBA.

473
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Speaker 2: Do you care?

474
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: Wow?

475
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 2: Maybe?

476
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 3: Are you excited?

477
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: I think the point is Adam Solar's point is get

478
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 1: people excited for these games, talk about them and talk

479
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: to each other, and let's do something different. Yeah yeah,

480
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: so maybe it'll work. Will they kick fans out of

481
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: after that first game? Absolutely, that's a tight turnaround.

482
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what they sold it. If they're selling two

483
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 3: tickets for sure, you gotta buy two men.

484
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: Can day pass.

485
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like a feelings are going to get

486
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 1: a data that's a two pm two.

487
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Speaker 3: For one NBA action. This is the inaugural season tournament. Guys.

488
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Speaker 2: That's a great point. You can't get a sick oh

489
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: discount here?

490
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I think.

491
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Speaker 3: You can because that second game is gonna be all

492
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 3: Lakers fans. Yeah, that is going to be Lakers fans

493
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Speaker 3: that's interested to see the first that first game at

494
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: two pm local time. What the crowd is like for

495
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 3: a Pacers Bucks game? Hopefully, I would assume tickets will

496
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 3: be cheap, honestly, if you're in the Vegas area.

497
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Speaker 2: I did like hearing Reggie straight up call it. He said, yeah,

498
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: I got traded Aspin. I think I'll say that on

499
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 2: the broadcast was awesome. Maybe I have a couple other

500
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: notes from that second game though, or at least the

501
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 2: first game. I guess last night, I thought Brook Lopez

502
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 2: was awesome. He like dominated Mitchell Robinson. Yes, nine points, Okay,

503
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: that's not gonna like you know, wow, you but eight boards,

504
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: three steals in three blocks four Brook. But more importantly,

505
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: Mitchell Robinson held the two points in four boards. That's

506
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: big boy Brook doing his work inside. So he owned him.

507
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 3: And then unfortunately for Knicks fans, this was a total

508
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: waste of Julius Randall's best game of the season by far,

509
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: forty one points, incredible efficiency and you know, unfortunately again

510
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 3: it comes in the l here and not moving on

511
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Speaker 3: to Vegas. That's a great game for Randall, but.

512
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Speaker 1: They didn't play defense. Tom Tibeteau after the game was

513
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: just yelling.

514
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 3: About the least.

515
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Speaker 1: He was upset. I get it. And then when you

516
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 1: you mentioned Brooks in his blocks and Chris Milton had

517
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: a couple of blocks in this game. When you have

518
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: Yannie Brook, Lopez and an able Chris Milton, you can

519
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: throw somebody who doesn't play all that great at the

520
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: shooting guard defensively, and that's why Easley plays to the

521
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: shooting guard spot. Brook looked great, put it on the

522
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: floor from the three point line at some point, great

523
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: catches on passes into the middle. Look like, oh Brook,

524
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: those hands, those those big myths, no problem, just give

525
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: it to him. He looked agile.

526
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: You guys want a little trivia when it comes to Randall,

527
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: why not?

528
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

529
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: Okay, ten career forty point games with the New York

530
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Speaker 3: Knicks for Julius Randall, fifth player in franchise history to

531
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Speaker 3: reach that mark. Can you name who in Nick's history

532
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: has more forty point games? This is from our friends

533
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Speaker 3: at Statutes Mellow Mellow was seventeen third on the list.

534
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: Pat Ewing gets to that Youing.

535
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Speaker 4: Number one called last thirty thirty forty point games, Sir

536
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Speaker 4: Patrick bird Shirting King number two with twenty three gets

537
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: your pivot foot sent your heels.

538
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's all heels. And then one more. You

539
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: got to go to the fifties and sixties for this guy.

540
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: Sounds like you had like a guy that should be

541
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: like the lead singer of a like a band in

542
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: the fifties and sixties.

543
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: Dick Maguire, No, busher, No.

544
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: It's a very tough one. Richie Garrett, there you go.

545
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: Like a singer.

546
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: Richie Garrett had fourteen.

547
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Speaker 2: So don't call me Bobby Darren. I'm Richie Gary.

548
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Speaker 3: Oh one more thought on the next TST. I really

549
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 3: wanted to get your take on this. Stephan Bondi tweeted.

550
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: Quentin Grimes, openly frustrated with his role, said it's tough

551
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: to find a rhythm when he rarely touches the ball,

552
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: stands in the corner and gets subbed out after missing

553
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 3: one shot. Grimes zero points, one shot attempt which he missed,

554
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 3: one board, and zero assist in about eighteen minutes. You

555
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: love Grimes, So I want to get your take on this.

556
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Speaker 1: I've never heard QG this mat. He was upset. He's

557
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: playing far fewer minutes this game. He's he's been highlighted

558
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: a lot less. He just ain't shooting the ball. He literally, yeah,

559
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: he missed that one shot. They left him wide open

560
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: because it was was the third quarter, his first shot.

561
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: That sounds right.

562
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: It felt like he didn't touch the ball. He's only

563
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: playing twenty two minutes. It seemed like his roles being

564
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: highlighted last year. Right, He's gonna be our starting guy.

565
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna guard best players on the on the perimeter

566
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Speaker 1: on the other side, and I think that's a huge

567
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: problem with their defense. He just ain't playing enough. Gonna

568
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: blame it on that. So, yeah, I can understand why

569
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: he's frustrated. The shot ain't there right.

570
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 3: Now feels a little obi top and two point zero

571
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: here possibly with another like sort of disgruntled youngish Knicks

572
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: player maybe getting buried or in the doghouse with Tips.

573
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: That's sort of what happened last year with with Topping.

574
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Obi Topping came off the bench, So maybe

575
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 2: Quentin Grime should do the same. Because Devincenzo's out playing them,

576
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: Josh Hart is out playing them. Those guys do other

577
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: stuff besides just stand around and wait. It's a hard

578
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: way to play, no doubt about it. That's why it

579
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: makes a guy like Kyle Korver special. You get four shots,

580
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: you have to make all of them, or at least

581
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: three of them, and you have to be completely ready because,

582
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 2: like Grimes was saying, like Randall pounds the ball, Brunson

583
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: pounds the ball, Barrett pounds the ball. Mitchell Robinson all

584
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: he does is catch roles. Right Like, There's not passers

585
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: in the starting lineup for the Knicks, So it's got

586
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: to be tough for him to get shots in the

587
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 2: flow of things. He's got to find a way to

588
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: do something else besides just stand and way, because it's

589
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: not gonna happen that way. De Vincenzo cuts baseline, Josh

590
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 2: Hart rebounds and brings the ball up the court, like

591
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: there are ways to get involved in the offense rather

592
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: than just stand it out.

593
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: There, and we barely talked about him before we take

594
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 3: a break. Jannis did have thirty five points and ten assists.

595
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: He was pretty good, but what he was doing after

596
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: the game was making all the headlines. In his interview

597
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 3: with Jared Greenberg, he was informed jannest was that, well,

598
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: the Bucks players are now guaranteed at least one hundred

599
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: thousand in prize money, and Yannis quipped the rich get

600
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: richer and then talked about sort of not being all

601
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 3: that excited to go to Vegas because he was gonna

602
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 3: miss his family on his birthday, even though, as he

603
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: pointed out here in the classic factory tray, your brother's

604
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: on the team. He's tired of fanatis. And then he

605
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 3: had a couple other funny lines. Yeah, thoughts on on

606
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: the charismatic Giannis after the game.

607
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Just killed it out there when he was told that

608
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one hundred k if you win, we

609
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: get money, reach to Richard. He killed it out there.

610
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: And I think he knows that people aren't giving him

611
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: give him enough respect at the m v P the

612
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: m v P table or maybe not. He's just talking. Uh,

613
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: he says he only plays Red thirty four. That's right

614
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: on the roulette table. I had to go look, yeah

615
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: thirty four is red.

616
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: Check.

617
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, I wasn't sure. It's one of two things.

618
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Uh not Greed Marsha and Bochop always that's Green zero. Wait,

619
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: Dami a little bite man? They switched jerseys.

620
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 3: Who's double zero bettered Maathron maybe like yeah.

621
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: A g Aaron Gordon? Yes, anyway, Yeah, he's fiddy. That's right,

622
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: these double zeros.

623
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: For former double zero former doubles there.

624
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he killed it.

625
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: He was.

626
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: He also took into account. Hey, Jerry Greenberket's our twenty

627
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: first game. I feel like we're getting better. He knows

628
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: that this was game twenty one for them. He's very

629
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: clear on that we're getting better. And uh, I can't wait,

630
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: can't wait for Vegas. Yeah, this is a very not

631
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: excited no about Vegas.

632
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: He's not going to be there.

633
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: We can bring them, yeah, can bring it. He just

634
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: made one hundred thousand dollars last night.

635
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: That's true.

636
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of kids though, absolutely could bring them. Also. A. J.

637
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: Green got a bit of an in game interview, right

638
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: was that during one of the quarters.

639
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're sort of trying.

640
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: They're trying a lot more to come.

641
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: In baseball, we're going to interview players during the game

642
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: that didn't used to have that's right.

643
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: But he was on fire. Have you hit three threes

644
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 3: in this game? There's a guy that wouldn't mind five

645
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars.

646
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Okay, So there you go.

647
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: There's a guy. That guy's literally in the definition of

648
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: there's a guy.

649
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: There's a guy.

650
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: There's a guy that could be on no dunks.

651
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: Okay, he made he's making one point nine million this year.

652
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like minimum.

653
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wants that. Chris Livingston one point one million.

654
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: He might be getting a fifty percent paybamo.

655
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: All right, semifinals on Thursday. We got the losers tonight.

656
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: Eleven games on in the Association.

657
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna watch this.

658
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, garbage basketball. These games me, nothing matters, except it

659
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: sort of matters in the record. There's no strife on

660
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: the court.

661
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Put these teams in a loser's bracket. Yeah, toilet

662
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: Bowls tournament.

663
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems to happen when you played three on

664
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 3: three battle back exactly. All right, we take a break

665
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: and when we come back some is this news don't

666
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Speaker 3: go anywhere?

667
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: All right?

668
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: Here in the Classic Factory again, eleven games on tonight.

669
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: We're looking at the schedule. Some of the stream teamers

670
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: pointing out, is tonight the night the Pistons snaw. They're

671
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: losing streak, they've lost seventeen straight games, They're at home

672
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: and they're playing the Grizzlies.

673
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Conditions are perfect.

674
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: They could be a w who knows. And then the

675
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: Spurs it's sort of, I don't know, not getting talked

676
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: about a lot, probably because of the Pistons, but they've

677
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: lost fourteen straight and they're playing Minnesota in Mini tonight,

678
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Conditions not so perfect, So well, we keep our eyes

679
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: on that. Also, your Hornets, your team in the nut

680
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: Dust Bowl, play your own bulls. You really can't lose tonight,

681
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: that's right. And when's tasks team? We talked about my team.

682
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: The Wizards are hosting the Sixers, so also I'm not yes, yes, yes,

683
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: all right, let's get into some is this news. Got

684
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: some headlines for the boys here in the Factory. First

685
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: one it's from the Athletic. It's a great article and

686
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: it was titled James Harden unplugged on Sixers and Darryl

687
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: Moury divorced early La Clippers days and more so this

688
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: is a you know, this is a different variation of

689
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: is this news here? But did you find any you know,

690
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: noteworthy things here in this heart and piece where he

691
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: is just talking to Sam amic and mainly about what

692
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: happened with the Maury and the Sixers. Anything new to

693
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: you or anything that jumped out.

694
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be a little juicier. I was

695
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: excited to read it. James Harden, this was it's called unplugged,

696
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: let's see her heart and just let it rip. I

697
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: thought I thought it'd be a little bit more listen.

698
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: I was. I was excited to read it, but there

699
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,239
Speaker 1: wasn't enough juice. It didn't seem all that accurate the

700
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: way he divorced from Darryl Morey. It's it's still a

701
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: little unclear. After reading it. He does say last summer

702
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Daryl Morey told him he would get the max. He

703
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: does say that that's made very clear.

704
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: You lie to me. Yeah, but the quotes for you,

705
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: I'll play like a fire next.

706
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: So who are you? You're not Aeric Clapton. I just

707
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: need to confirm. Oh, very nice. This was the quote.

708
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: This is the quote about the divorce, about him parting

709
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: with Daryl. Mory said, Yeah, me and Daryl had a

710
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: really good relationship. So a week or two after in

711
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: the past we lose in the playoffs, it would be

712
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: all about trying to figure out how to improve the team.

713
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: They talk about how do we get better? And that's

714
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: been going on for like ten years, you know what

715
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, And then this year there was no communication.

716
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: At that point, It's like, Okay, I see what's going on.

717
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm very intelligent, so then I just figure out what's

718
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: my next move and what do I do? So I

719
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: understand that at the end of the day, this is

720
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: a business and just like he has to do what's

721
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: best for his organization, I got to do what's best

722
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: for me and my family. It's as simple as that.

723
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: That doesn't That doesn't say Darryl Mory sat with me

724
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: and promised me he could call Daryl and talk to him,

725
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: or did they talk? What is the story? There's not

726
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: enough story, And then he says there's too much money,

727
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: too much respect, loss, and too much loyalty on my

728
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 1: end to even double back with Maury.

729
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: Heartbroken man broken promise? Really, uh really, affected James.

730
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: But he says, we were good friends. There's nothing to

731
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: talk about. There's nothing to talk about. This is real money. Okay,

732
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: Well you're making, you're making.

733
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: He's pissed. He said, Maury offered me a MAX deal.

734
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: I sacrificed for this team. I sacrifice money, he said,

735
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: I got you, my guy, And then he did, or

736
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: at least yes, yes, right, and so then he's like, well,

737
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: screw this. I'm opting into my final season, my contract,

738
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: and I'm demanding a.

739
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: Trade, not buying it, just not buying it. If it

740
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: was unplugged, it'd be on record, you know what I mean?

741
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, if that conversation that he had with Daryl

742
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: was actually what took place, we would have heard it.

743
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: We would have heard it as the bonus track on

744
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: your Unplugged Who are You Again? Unplugged out Best?

745
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: What do you think? T K you agree with tass here?

746
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: What are your takeaways? I guess from there?

747
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: Are you telling me Daryl Mory is the man who sold.

748
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: The world David Bowie song.

749
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: Who are You Nravana playing David Bowie?

750
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe Darryl Mory was the man who

751
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 2: sold the Max. But according to Harden. According to Harden,

752
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: by his own timeline, before the playoffs, Daryl Morray said,

753
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: a max is coming. Then the playoffs happened, Daryl Mory

754
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: Washman said, uh, oh, we cannot max this guy out,

755
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: and that's where the offer went. Hardened did nothing as

756
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: the Sixers were eliminated. He scored seventeen points in two

757
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: games on like twenty two shots or something like that.

758
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: What about those other games?

759
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about those? Should have checked in after those? Ye,

760
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. This to be just kind

761
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: of confirmed what everybody thought. It was all about the money,

762
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: because every response is about getting paid right away. Uh.

763
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 2: Sam Amox asked him, when you decided you were done

764
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: in Philly, was it always Clippers or nothing else? What

765
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: was your thought process? It was about trying to get

766
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: to a situation where I could ge paid and obviously

767
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: have a chance to win at the highest level twice

768
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: and that response, I wanted to get paid, Oh yeah,

769
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: and I also want to win. I mean, obviously I

770
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: want to win, but the paid stuff comes first. And

771
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: that's kind of what everybody thought. He turned down a

772
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: huge deal from the Nets, thought he had another one coming,

773
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 2: and then it wasn't there had to figure out another

774
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: way to get another huge deal.

775
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not like he didn't get paid. No,

776
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: he did give a deal, but just to he just

777
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: to be clear, he's been paid three hundred million dollars

778
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: plus three hundred million dollars until the end of last season,

779
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: so he's made money.

780
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: He's doing on a ship.

781
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: But his whole thing, Like, again, I'm not really coming

782
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: to the defense of James Harden, but he is at

783
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: least the story he is telling us, and it's sort

784
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 3: of been consistent with is I did sacrifice for the

785
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: Sixers because of my previous relationship with Maury and the

786
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 3: promise that he would probably take care of me moving forward,

787
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: and then he did it financially, is what he's getting at.

788
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: And then then and then it was like, I'm done.

789
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: You lied man, you you're you're you're not. Your word

790
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: is no good to me, and yes, I I'm going

791
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: to now stick it to you and opt in again

792
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: to that thirty six million, and then I'm going to

793
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: demand a trade. And now you gotta trade me.

794
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Uh.

795
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: The other part from this that's raising some eyebrows is

796
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: Harden did say his agent met with Udoka of the

797
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: Rockets at some point when there was the rumors floating

798
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: around about him maybe going back to Houston about you know,

799
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: the play of style and whatnot for the Rockets. But

800
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: everybody's pointing out, what hold on the man that's tampering?

801
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: That's too soon, I mean admitted that this one. This

802
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: is exactly what happens. Of course in the NBA.

803
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: Are you not allowed to chat your representation chat in between,

804
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: like right like he had a decision to make about

805
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: whether he was going to opt into his contract or not.

806
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: So if they're meeting, then is that I.

807
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: Thought he said it happened previously to that.

808
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: I couldn't really tell time. Who knows exactly.

809
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: I can't tell a lot of things with this articles.

810
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: James James, all right, let's go to the next one.

811
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: Then this is uh from real GM, but it's really

812
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: from Shops who on FanDuel TV said the Celtics to

813
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: be active in the trade market, specifically trying to help

814
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: their bench TK Is this news Boston are going to

815
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: be looking to make some moves according to.

816
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: Shams, I don't think it's news. I don't think it's

817
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: really that surprising. We saw with porzingis out against the Pacers,

818
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: the defense just isn't quite the same when Kristapps isn't

819
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: out there. We said coming into the year they probably

820
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: wanted to upgrade their backup center spot eventually, and that's

821
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: looking like a place that they could certainly upgrade.

822
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: The look.

823
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: Cornett can do some things here and there, but maybe

824
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: you want somebody more likely to be able to stand

825
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: the court during the playoffs. So I'm not completely shocked,

826
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: especially having just watched the way things went down in

827
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: the IST with Indiana. So my first thought is Andre Drummond,

828
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: come on down. The Celtics have definitely been linked to

829
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: Alex Caruso, so I wonder if maybe this is like

830
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: a two for one sort of deal that the Celtics

831
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: would be interested in, because Andre Drummond is a really

832
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: good BA center and he would be helpful to the Celtics.

833
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: I think a team that has struggled rebounding in the

834
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: past and continues to I think he would be helpful there.

835
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: And then obviously Cruzo is a guy who's gonna help

836
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: basically every contender, so I'm assuming there's got to be

837
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: some kind of chats going on.

838
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: That's a good call. About Drummond. It seems like we

839
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: just talked about the Lakers. A big backup center would

840
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: be beneficial. I know Drummonds has played for the Lakers,

841
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: but just throw somebody out there. We've seen it before,

842
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: you know, do you want to go get a Greg

843
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: Monroe that kind of guy. Those kind of guys will

844
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: be moved, and Drummond is a huge body that would

845
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: help out. That being said, they definitely know who they're

846
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: starting five is with Drew Holliday and Derek White in

847
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: the back court the Jays and Christops Worzingis and Al

848
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: Horford is guaranteed to come off the bench. But beyond that,

849
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: beyond those six, they have some hope in Payton Prichard,

850
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: they have guys coming off the bench and Benton Makaie,

851
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: Luke Brissett, Jo Shae Brissett, Mar Stevens, the Cornett, the Kata,

852
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: But beyond Horford, they want somebody else to help out

853
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: for sure. So yeah, this is something they'll be looking for,

854
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: and it's probably the big spot.

855
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: They have control over most of their future first round picks,

856
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: but they're pretty limited the Celtics are when it comes

857
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: to like matching salary in a trade because of all

858
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: their top end talent, they do have a six point

859
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: two million dollar trade exception that they can use to

860
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 3: take back salary without sending anyone out. So maybe that's

861
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: something to watch. But yeah, the trick to me is

862
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: finding somebody in the salary range to be the difference maker.

863
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 3: I love, love the idea of a Caruso Drummond targeting

864
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: those two guys. I think that really would help out Boston.

865
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: But can they get there and then adding salary to

866
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Speaker 3: the Celtics books here, I mean you're looking at three

867
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Speaker 3: to four times the salary because of where they are

868
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: when you're calculating the tax bill. So Caruso, I saw

869
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: people saying, could someone like Jeff Breen even could you

870
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: get him from the Rockets as a guy that's obviously

871
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: helped before in playoff situations, a vet that you can

872
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 3: trust on, sort of a wing defender. It makes some

873
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: sense to me, But I don't know if Houston would

874
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Speaker 3: be even willing to eventually part with him.

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00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Probably seeing there was a mother Rockets I thought as well,

876
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: like Jeff Green, I think would be fine, but they

877
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: probably want a beefear dude. Maybe Jock Landale, I know,

878
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: they were after Reggie Bullock during the summer as well,

879
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: so maybe they can steal him. I'm a little curious

880
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: to see if the Celtics would trade Peyton Pritchard after

881
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 2: just signing him to an extension or a new deal

882
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: over the summer, because that could be a spot they

883
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: upgrade as well. And he has a decently sized salary

884
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Speaker 2: compared to some of the other players at the end

885
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Speaker 2: of their bench, you know, like the Mikaya Lukes and

886
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: the oshae Bersetts, who make two million dollars at least

887
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: Pritchard makes four or so. You know, it's a little

888
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: closer to be able to maybe acquire a Chetty Osmon,

889
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: a precious at you if you will. There are names

890
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: out there, but you gotta trade something, be able to

891
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: take it back.

892
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: Yep, all right. Next headline here from CBS Sports seventy

893
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Speaker 3: six ers, Kelly Ubred Junior speaks out on traumatic hit

894
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Speaker 3: and run incident and addresses conspiracy theorists. Tests is this news?

895
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: Well, it is strange that there was a video of

896
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: him entering will look like his place. Yeah, I guess

897
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: it was a ring video a camera within his within

898
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: his door. Now that was weird. So then the yeah,

899
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories begin. There's just talk about how he

900
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: was hit by a vehicle. In fact, this he was

901
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: hit by vehicle. And Kelly Bray has been incredible for

902
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: the Sixers team prior to that happening. You signed just

903
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: before training camp, and how do you sign that guy

904
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: to a very small deal, a minimum deal. He comes

905
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: in and was averaging twenty for a while and starting

906
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: at times, and he's coming off the bench. So investigators

907
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: are looking into how he was hit by a vehicle.

908
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: The news is good that he's back and that he

909
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: is able to play, because there was talk about you

910
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: right off the gate. Well let's go to the hospital.

911
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: He could be out for a long time. Yeah, who

912
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: knows if there's a video of him being hit by

913
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: a vehicle, But that's you know, not for the Internet

914
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: to really do the investigation.

915
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: This was newsworthy to me because I didn't know there

916
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: was like a conspiracy going around about this. So what

917
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: is the conspiracy that he wasn't hit by a vehicle.

918
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Well, basically, the police said that they looked at cameras

919
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: where he said he got hit and they couldn't find

920
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: any footage of it, which is why the ring camera

921
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: then came out. His team basically leaked it to TMZ, saying, yes,

922
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: I was injured when I came back, But I just

923
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,959
Speaker 2: think it's more likely that he doesn't exactly know where

924
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: it happened, that it didn't happen. But it's great that

925
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: he's going to be coming back. He hasn't played in

926
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: like a month. Like Test said, he's basically been playing

927
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: the best basketball of his career to start the season.

928
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: But in the month he's been out, the seventy six

929
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: ers team has definitely changed, right. Covington is in the mix,

930
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: Batoum is in the mix, Marcus Morris has actually been starting.

931
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know if the role that Kelly Eubray

932
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: had before his injury will necessarily be there. They still

933
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: need what he can bring. His athleticism, the way he

934
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: runs the court, and just you know, a quicker guy

935
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: on the wing compared to Batum and Covington, who are

936
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: maybe more of fours than threes. So I think he

937
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: can help, but he probably doesn't play as important of

938
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: a role as he was before the hard and trade.

939
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, before the incident, he was averaging sixteen point three

940
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: points per game, five boards, shooting fifty percent from the

941
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: field and thirty eight percent from deep. Yeah, we'll see

942
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: how he slots back in. They only went five and

943
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: six in the games that Kelly Ubray did miss there,

944
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 3: so struggled a little bit after the very very hot start.

945
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: But we'll see if he can get back to the

946
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: levels he was at pre injury. I mean they said

947
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: he broke a rib, right, not the initial sort of

948
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: jury getting hit by this vehicle that then fled the scene,

949
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 3: and that they don't even know who did it. Can't

950
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Speaker 3: find it? Crazy? Final one here, why not? ESPN says

951
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: the NBA to allow scouting of top prospects in Vegas.

952
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: TK is this news?

953
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: This is great news for all the logistics heads out there.

954
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: Apparently the NBA partnered with some high school leagues, some

955
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: high school circuits to have a huge tournament in Las Vegas. Oh,

956
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: by the way, the NBA just happens to be so yeah,

957
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: go ahead and check out these prospects. And I'm sure

958
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: this stuff will be broadcast on the NBA APP because

959
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag will be there and he's going to Duke

960
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: next season, so they can't run all of his games

961
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: on the NBA APP. When he's playing in the nc

962
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 2: double as good time to get a look at Cooper Flag.

963
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: I do believe, so, I don't know, just kind of

964
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: interesting to see that the NBA is more and more

965
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: so reaching their fingers into high school basketball.

966
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really developing between the NBA and high school.

967
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: This is just one of the high school events that

968
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: the NBA is allowed to look at through April. There's

969
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: there's several of them that are going to happen because

970
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: front offices have just been wanting to figure out how

971
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: good is this high school Well.

972
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: A lot of these guys aren't going to college now

973
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 3: exactly change, So they're like, when can we get a

974
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: chance to look at them?

975
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, prospect and you can even take a year off.

976
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: It is interesting to see where these guys go. Like

977
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Shane Sharp, Mitch Robinson, they had these the Kent Kentucky talks,

978
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: but they also decide, you know, I'm not going to

979
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 1: play too much.

980
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get.

981
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Drafted next year, or like Darius Baisley just didn't even

982
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: end up going anywhere. He thought about playing with the

983
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: G League, where a lot of players are going, or

984
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: going internationally, but he said, nah, took a three month

985
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: internship with new Bounds, got paid a mill for that. Okay,

986
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: that's what he did in year between high school and playing.

987
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: Then he got drafted twenty third overall. So it has

988
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: changed things, and it definitely changes things for college because

989
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: you go you go to Cala Paris, Kentucky, and you say,

990
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm playing two games. I'm good. I'm

991
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: good until next year. I've got my thing developed. So

992
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: things are changing for colleges and yeah, for the NBA overall.

993
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: For those that don't know, in the past, NBA teams

994
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: were not allowed to attend any high school team events

995
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: because of the no contact rules, which were put in

996
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: place in the David Stern era to keep NBA scouts

997
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 3: out of high school gyms. But this is these rules

998
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: have been gradually getting loosened, I guess, and now we're

999
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: getting to this point where the NBA is saying, here

1000
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: are a list of of these high school events that

1001
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: you can go and scout. You can go watch Cooper

1002
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: Flag take on you know, Trey Johnson. I guess who's

1003
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 3: committed to Texas, who's a pretty high in the twenty

1004
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: twenty four class. We allow it. You know, you can

1005
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 3: argue whether they should be, but sounds like you guys

1006
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 3: are okay with it, that it's gonna be happening anyway,

1007
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: So why not like sanction it. I guess that the

1008
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: or do you want it to be the wild West again?

1009
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: And they could be scouting grade schoolers.

1010
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if we're gonna be scouting high schoolers and

1011
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: putting their games in the app, you should be able

1012
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: to drap right right right would be my thing.

1013
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's hear from everybody out there those

1014
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: four headlines where they Newsworthy and your takes. We're gonna

1015
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: take one more break and when we come back. Tweet

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Speaker 3: of the Night hit the like, subscribe podcast listeners leave

1017
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Speaker 3: us a five star rating, and review people were asking

1018
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Speaker 3: five star Friday, possibly on Friday TK Okay, yeah, it's

1019
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Speaker 3: in the mix, So get your reviews in. Running out

1020
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: of days if you want to make that fun segment

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Speaker 3: there on the drop. All right, tweeted the Nighttime.

1022
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Tweed out the night. Wow. Initially I was going with

1023
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: Ryachimura in that black mask he was wearing coming back

1024
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: from that fracture. Yeah, it's little head nod to Kobe

1025
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: wearing that mask. Kyrie the black Mask Lebron on a

1026
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: face Lebron. Yeah, there's been plenty, But then I saw

1027
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: us in a tweet. Nick Boucelli designed these cards of us.

1028
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I like trade cards. I want cards to come back

1029
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more. So we each have one Jerome Sorry,

1030
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: got to get a Nick on making you one. So

1031
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: there's four of us there, Skeets, Trey JD, myself. I'll

1032
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: have our own separate cards, podcast cards, skybox trading cards

1033
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: featuring us. How do you guys feel about seeing some

1034
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: some cards?

1035
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 3: I hate.

1036
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: We can pick.

1037
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 3: I would rather have your cards. But this is a

1038
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 3: great great uh great work here from Nick.

1039
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: One of the great sets out there Skybox ninety ninety one.

1040
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: But uh, poor action shots, Yeah.

1041
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: No doubt.

1042
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a lot more animated than what

1043
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 3: I'm doing. I'm literally scrolling on my mouse. I look

1044
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: a little surprised.

1045
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: You're in Beaker motive. I also like that you're wearing

1046
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: the starters T shirt, like you're a player who got

1047
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: traded in the off season. But I don't have a

1048
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: photo of you in your new jersey.

1049
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 3: It's almost like an error card. You don't know this,

1050
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: but it says, uh, it says fuck you on the

1051
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: bottom of my mother Billy Ripkins style.

1052
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, j D.

1053
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 3: You don't like yours?

1054
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: Myrs? Well, you know, I get that it's an action

1055
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: shot that I don't know, look at the camera or

1056
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: something looking up.

1057
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: If you do like like the look of these, don't

1058
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: We have a shirt available at no dunks dot com

1059
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: then is uh you know fact that plays off of

1060
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: this classic Classic Factory. Yeah, check it out, all right,

1061
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: awesome stuff, good tweets, Yes, the best, Well one of

1062
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: yours too is the best.

1063
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: Yours is cool because like your head has like a

1064
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: halo around it.

1065
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the halo over the stripes.

1066
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yours is cool.

1067
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: Johnson's stripes, get out of here. Yeah. I want a pattern.

1068
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: I want to shape, but we can work out. Actually,

1069
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: my card sucked, so I told Nick make a new one.

1070
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm sure Nick is up for hearing some

1071
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: things for some designs to.

1072
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: Give a quick update on maybe what inspired that or

1073
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: I believe what inspired that? Uh the Brian Windhors card

1074
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 3: signed Wendy reached out to me. He said, you really

1075
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 3: want this. I say, I absolutely want this. We need

1076
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: this in the Classic Factory. So fingers crossed, I believe

1077
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 3: it's coming. Wow, it should be in the mail during

1078
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: the holiday time.

1079
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Speaker 1: Here, I want a story. I want a story of

1080
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: how that card came to life. Where he signed that win.

1081
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: He addressed it on one of the pods, like you

1082
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: know they have like a representative from Alan and Genter

1083
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: their Tops or whatever whoever runs it come like you know,

1084
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 3: you gotta confirm that he signed it. Oh, yeah, it's

1085
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: really official. There's a there's a Bomani Jones card in

1086
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: one of those sets. There's a couple other ones. Collect

1087
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 3: them all and hey, anybody at Tops Alan Giner wants

1088
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 3: some no Dunks cards, we are available as well.

1089
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: And I only want to know that.

1090
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: You don't want a windy card.

1091
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: I would I would have a windy but I would

1092
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: want the shot that shot of him like standing like

1093
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: you know, like stanced up.

1094
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: Here's what I would want. I want hologram windy of

1095
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: him coming in on the chair through but you hologram

1096
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: and it comes out.

1097
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: We could have Shack playing with your beard on yours.

1098
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, shall Court gave Trey's beard a fluff Once upon

1099
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 4: a time cards.

1100
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, the windhorse fingers up.

1101
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: Fingers up.

1102
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot in fact, Yeah, I do want

1103
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: to win it the whole collection.

1104
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: This is gonna be able to successfully change the pronunciation

1105
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: of his name. I heard JJ Reddick calling him Winhurst

1106
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: on a podcast. That's great respect taking over respect, that

1107
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: has respect.

1108
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: Reddicks are profession That's why.

1109
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the Allen and Ginger was top.

1110
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like a subset or whatever. Yeah, I

1111
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: don't know enough about it.

1112
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: Just call it the better name than Ginger. It is

1113
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: Alan and Ginger was a Richmond, Virginia tobacco manufacturing company.

1114
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: What I just learned today Great film created and marketed

1115
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: the first cigarette cards for collecting and trading in the

1116
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: United States.

1117
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 3: Look, that's what it is, all right, talking cards here

1118
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: on No Dunks. Let's call it there. We're gonna take

1119
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: a take a break and then do another podcast. But

1120
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 3: it's special. It's gonna air during the holiday season. That's

1121
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 3: why our guid Joe role is yere. We're gonna have

1122
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: a blast, But you gotta subscribe to the No Dunks

1123
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: on YouTube and podcasts for that one.

1124
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Again.

1125
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: That's that's the Christmas break when we were dropping some

1126
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 3: Christmas presents under your audio tree. But we'll be back

1127
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 3: tomorrow than.

1128
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: How to end that, Wait till I try and end

1129
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: the show with a quote.

1130
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 3: But we're back tomorrow morning, is what I was trying

1131
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 3: to get to Tennam Eastern here in the Classic Factory

1132
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: to talk about these shitty games tonight. I think tk's

1133
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: got something special for us lined up as well. So

1134
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 3: we'll be here at Tennam Eastern till then.

1135
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 1: Clipper bros.

1136
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

1137
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome.

1138
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember Alan Ginter's first cigarettes

1139
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: were actually Alan and ginger that you smoked.

1140
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 3: Was that disgusting you line up?

1141
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: I made that up.

1142
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

1143
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: Know who knows what's a cigarette. There could be a

1144
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: little ginger in there. Oh there's a lot of nicotine.

1145
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, come by alright. Don't embrace smoking people,

1146
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 3: embrace the DA