WEBVTT - Best Of - Should Shedeur Sanders START for Browns? Nick CANNOT BELIEVE Colin Cowherd & Bill Simmons Chiefs takes 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.200 with Nick Wright, the best takes and moments from this 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:09.760 week on the show. Enjoy Chador. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.000 He looked pretty good. I mean, he looked fantastic, but 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.040 he looked pretty good for a quarterback who went there 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:18.680 and did his thing. Head coach Steven Kevin Stefanski still 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.520 hasn't committed to Shador. So do you think that he 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:24.160 showed everything he needed to do to get the starting job? 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:28.760 What do you well? He's definitely not going to be 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.240 their Week one starter. That is gonna be Joe Flacco. 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.239 I don't even think. By the way, if I were Shadoor, 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.480 I know he can't say this. I wouldn't even want 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.680 to be the Week one starter. Like I would rather 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:49.320 the Browns open with the Ravens and then they play 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.800 I'm sorry, the Brown's open with the Bengals, so I 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:54.720 wouldn't actually hate that because of the Bengals defense, but 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.560 then they go Ravens, Packers, Lions, Vikings, Steelers, like those 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.960 are not defenses. I'm interested in playing it right, all 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.560 exactly right. And I understand that the Browns just released 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:11.319 their latest depth chart and Shador is still number four. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.680 They did not move him up at all, I don't 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:24.040 believe it. I think that Shadoor has now if we 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:30.039 are being fair, he has taken it is now Dylan 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.760 Gabriel who is chasing Shador in the quarterback competition instead 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:40.240 of vice versa. Like the you know, the old adage 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.640 you don't lose your job due to injury is total bs. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:47.119 Happens in sports all the time. People lose their job 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.440 because of injury and because the guy who fills in 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.440 for you shows something he didn't have the opportunity to 0:01:53.440 --> 0:02:00.840 show before. And so if Flacco is just entrenched at one, 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:05.880 which I think he is, Kenny Pickett was two and 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.840 is two on the late step chart. He's been hurt 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.560 the last couple weeks of camp. Doesn't look like he's 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.640 gonna play at all, and he didn't play in their 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.120 first preseason game. Doesn't look like he's been playing their second. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.720 Dylan Gabriel is three. Gabriel, according to all reports on 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.960 the ground, has been bad in practice and was injured 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:30.560 for the first preseason game. Shadores four. He's practiced well 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:36.960 and I thought made four very high level throws in 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:41.919 that game and really only made a couple bad mistakes. Yeah, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:46.760 and so I think that is enough to where he 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.040 should have taken the lead on Gabriel, and the goal 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:55.560 for either of these rookies flatly needed to be beat 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:02.000 out the other rookie. So when at when Flacco inevitably 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.240 gets benched, I'm the guy they go to. Now, maybe 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.320 they'll go to pick it, but I think that would 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:13.680 be asinine. And so now I also think this Demanse. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:18.680 I think Gabriel will and should start preseason game number two, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.919 and then you know he can if he plays well 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:23.720 in the store. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.400 Both of them have. I think that's what we'll do. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.160 I could even see him go, Demanse, quarter quarter quarter, 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.280 you know what they're thereabouts, Like, I could see Gabriel 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.600 playing then shoudor then Gabriel back in then should or 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.960 that way, you know what I mean. You get more 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.520 time with starting caliber players or you know, guys that 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.320 are actually going to make the team, or they each 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:52.840 get it. But I now think Gabriel, I think Shador 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:58.720 is now amongst the rookies in pole position. And I 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:04.360 also think that, and this is why so I thought 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.920 after the game him saying something to Tony Grosy was 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.440 totally fine and I think people don't recognize how common 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:20.040 that is that guys sang after games in locker rooms 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.200 are in the tunnel to reporters like, hey, what was 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.120 up with that? That has happened forever? That used to 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.479 happen to me. I remember Matt Cassel saying to a 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:34.479 different media member, we're both standing there. When he realized 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.279 that media member, you know what. I think it was 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:40.120 to Mark Carmon, our friend whose birthday was actually yesterday. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.840 I think it was to karm that he said to him, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.159 this is your buddy about me? He's like, yeah, He's like, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.520 he sure talks a lot of shit, doesn't He like, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.760 did not like some of the things I had said 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.200 about him. That's super common. So I have no problem 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.280 at all with Shador having that moment with Tony. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:03.119 Grosy time, though, what you need to be worried about? 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:10.160 So here is the thing on that. I think the 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.239 smile and the laugh at the end made it okay. 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:18.040 And I think that like charisma and charm and a 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:23.360 great smile can really carry Yeah, and so like that 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:27.279 to me was fine. I thought the walk in was 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:32.279 a misstep. I didn't think it was a grievous error, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:38.440 but I thought, I'm not asking you to be someone 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:43.520 you're not, but turned down the volume on literally on 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:49.000 the boombox, I guess, and also figuratively. Now I understand 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.599 those were his teammates, not his entourage, but still you're 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:57.080 the quarterback, the guy carrying the giant walking stick staff 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.800 in the boombox. I might have been like, can we 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:01.680 not do that? And if you really want to walk 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.280 in like that, maybe I'll go in, you know, a 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.960 little bit after you. Because it's. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:09.800 He is. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.960 If the Browns won't elevate him on their real depth chart, 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.960 then he also wants another team to trade for him, 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.400 you know, And so I just don't think that helps. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.839 But I don't think it's a huge deal. You'd certainly 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:33.599 rather him play well and have an awkward pre and 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.320 postgame then be perfect pre and post game and playport. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.000 Right, go ahead, No, I mean with that take, you 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.160 were saying that maybe he should show out for the Rams, 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:45.520 or maybe the Rams look at him, because words like 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:50.760 a mortal chamber are being thrown around very serious. I 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.560 don't know, do you think that's more of a possibility now, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.640 like it's more serious. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.200 I think that right now he's probably worth he was 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.440 drafted with a fifth. I think he's worth at least 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:07.159 a fourth, you know what I mean? And so, but 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.760 I don't I think the Browns want to keep him. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:14.880 I think Stefanski might be coming around if he wasn't 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.400 already there. And I think you had to be impressed 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:25.920 by how he handled himself and how he played this Sunday. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.040 Was it Sunday? Saturday? Friday? 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.080 It was Friday, it was Thursday, Friday? 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:35.200 All right, Demanda, let's go to the listener questions. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.520 T asked, where do you think Alan Lamar rank all 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.160 time right this moment just his quarterback talents? I'd say 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.920 both Top fifteen side question, are the smelling salts going 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:46.960 to ruin your life? 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.440 Smelling salts are not going to ruin my life? But 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.800 you know, strong recommend if people haven't tried him yet, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.800 especially if you're like maybe trying to kick caffeine or 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.920 something like. I haven't right into the put in downsides 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.760 of houff pneumonia occasionally, but it sure woke me up. 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:13.000 Where do Lamar and Allen rank just as quarterback talents? 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:20.440 What an interesting question? Top fifteen sounds right like if 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:27.640 I were ranking just quarter just raw talent, quarterbacks. Ever, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.080 that's what Yeah, that's what they're saying, saying all time. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:39.480 Mahomes Rogers are to me the top two. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.760 Lamar's got to be like top ten at least any 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.040 same thing. But I feel like both those guys, those 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.719 are electric dudes as far as this talent, like no, 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.120 maybe not one, Yeah, those are. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:59.880 Yeah, so I think safely so raw talent, Mahomes raw 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.440 Farv has to be up there. Manning has to be 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:11.040 up there. It's a compliment to Brady that we're not 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.840 even like saying him with all of his success, because 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.640 you know, he maximized everything about his physical ability. Marino's 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.440 got to be up there. I always have had a 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:28.120 soft spot for Steve Young. John Elway's up there. And 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:33.000 now we can start talking Lamar and Josh you know 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.760 what I mean. Like, so, yeah, the in that bottom 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.720 part of the top tens firmly in the top fifteen. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.960 I think that's right. All right, let's go to Ethan. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.760 Ethan asked, as a poker expert who understands the principle 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.520 of the plus ev. I'm curious if you take the 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.480 same approach into sports gambling, or if you trust your 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.760 own personal bias over sharp books. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.280 I don't look at I don't look at sports spending 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.679 the way I look at poker. Just for the record, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.880 like I don't, I don't, while I do try every 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:11.680 year to give out winners and to you know, make 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:16.959 you guys money. I I am. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.040 A little bit more conservative with poker. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.880 No, I don't know a bit. No, I just look 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:31.080 at it like poker, I am trying to make the 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:37.960 best decision at every point. Sports I have a very 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:43.559 hard time betting against my takes, you know what I mean. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:48.440 I won't always bet on my takes, but like I 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.720 it's why I'll I'll never, even if I'm getting points, 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.080 bet against the chiefs, you know what I mean. So like, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:58.000 there are just certain things that so that's but I 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.760 also I and this is how I would recommend it 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:06.320 for other people look at sports betting as a recreational endeavor, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.800 not like, hey, this is how I'm gonna make extra money. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.880 Poker's different in that regard for me. All right, let's 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:14.320 keep going. 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.880 Michael ass is Jackson better than Prime Vig? 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:23.640 Yes, love Mike, but yes, Lamar is a far already 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.280 a far better passer than Mike ever was just you 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.600 know what, I mean, he just is and I love Mike, 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:33.160 but that's I think Mike would tell you that next. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.560 Indy, Nick, do you think that everyone is just so 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:40.200 skewed by fantasy football? Josh Lamar have been excellent fantasy quarterbacks, 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:41.840 so people assume that they are the best. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.080 Yeah. I think that absolutely is something to do with it. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:50.920 I absolutely think that the crazy fantasy numbers impact this one. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:58.280 Hum noah, yeah, no, no, ass When is the Future 0:11:58.400 --> 0:11:59.240 show going to happen? 0:11:59.320 --> 0:11:59.839 It's like soon. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.560 Yeah, So we have a show Thursday, then we're off 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:09.080 for a week, and then the Our Futures in our 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.040 Gambling show will probably be a two part thing Tuesday 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.120 and Thursday next week to get us ready for football season, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:20.800 right in line with predictions week on First Things First, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.760 and Diego says has snakes enthusiast Kevin Wild's weight in 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.280 on Demonse's reptiles. That's good. That's a good First Things 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.959 First joke, and I appreciate it. 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Colin was 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.880 also one of those naysayers, saying that the winning is over. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.120 Do you think that the win Do you think that 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:16.240 the dynasty is continuable if they win the Super Bowl 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:16.760 this year? 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:19.960 Well, hold on, I don't even think that's obviously. If 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.880 they win the super Bowl this year, the dynasty is 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:28.720 in progress. I want to focus more on Listen. I 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.080 think it's well established how much I adore and love 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:36.160 Colin Cowherd. His Chiefs takes Now, I mostly blame Jmack. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.640 I think that, like the proximity to Jmax's historically bad 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.560 Chiefs takes have somehow there's been an osmosis of take 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:51.600 that has impacted Colin. But they've been to three straight 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.840 Super Bowls. They they had the best record in the 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.800 NFL last year. They got it to. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.600 The last one, right, they got it. They made it 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.640 to the last super Bowl. Like I think they have 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.240 to at least not make a super Bowl for the 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:06.280 dynasty to be over. 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.040 Well I would think so, right yeah. And by the way, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:17.440 like when we talk about dynasties in the NFL, the 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:22.000 Pittsburgh Steelers is probably the most famous one. They won 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:28.000 two super Bowls. They then went two years without making 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.680 the Super forget without winning it, without making the super Bowl, 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.840 and then they won two more. We look at that 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:41.720 as one dynasty. The Patriots is an interesting one. I 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:47.760 don't consider the Pants one continuous dynasty, but if you do, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:53.160 it went like this, won a super Bowl, missed the playoffs, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:58.040 then won two super Bowls, then gosh, I'm gonna have 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.920 to do this off the top of my head. Six 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.760 going for the three pat lost their first playoff game. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:09.320 I'm sorry, wait, five going for the three pat It's 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:10.960 gonna be hard to off top my head, but I'm 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:17.480 gonna try. Lost their first playoff game. Six lost in 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.600 Round two. Oh seven lost the Super Bowl. OH eight 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:26.920 missed the playoffs. Nine and twenty ten lost before the 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.720 Super Bowl. Twenty eleven lost in the super Bowl twenty twelve, 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:36.600 twenty thirteen lost before the Super Bowl, fourteen won the 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:40.680 Super Bowl, fifteen lost in Conference title game, sixteen won 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.680 the Super Bowl, seventeen lost the Super Bowl, eighteen won 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.840 the Super Bowl, nineteen lost in Round one. So if 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.000 we want to do that as one long dynasty, then 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:55.840 it's going to be impossible to say the Chiefs dynasty 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.320 is over. If you consider the Patriots one long dynasty. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.440 The Patri's went a decade without winning a Super Bowl. 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:09.560 The Chiefs have gone sixteen months, and so that part's 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:16.800 just ridiculous. It's just fundamentally ridiculous to say I'm declaring 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:23.359 it dead when the Chiefs are in the midst of 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.360 or just completed I guess you would say the greatest 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:31.680 three year stretch in the history of the league. And 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.560 they have been to three consecutive Super Bowls and seven 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:39.399 straight AFC Championship Games. It's now if your take is 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:45.760 they're just not good enough anymore, it's a bold take, 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.720 maybe like there's no evidence for it, But if it's 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:58.080 just your gut feeling, then so be it. Here is 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:07.640 here is what I find the most demands a ridiculous 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.480 about this Chief's fatalism stuff, and then we can move 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:23.920 on every team in the AFC that is chasing them. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:32.960 If this year they have the exact season Kansas City 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:41.040 had last year, best last undefeated team, best record in 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:47.800 the NFL, beat the Chiefs in the AFC playoffs, make 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:52.119 the Super Bowl, lose the super Bowl, it will be 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:57.840 considered evidence that that team is getting closer, and the 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.680 best season any of those teams have had in this era, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:07.880 the Chiefs having that year is considered evidence of implosion. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.440 But I am here to tell you if the Baltimore 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:15.960 Ravens are the final one, or the Buffalo Bills, or 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.800 the Cincinnati Bengals, or the Los Angeles Chargers or god forbid, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.480 the Denver Broncos or any of those teams, if they 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:28.960 are the last undefeated team, if they are fifteen to 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.879 one with the one seed locked up, they then beat 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:37.639 the Chiefs in the playoffs and then run into I 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.480 don't care who call it Philly or no, because Philly 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.240 then would go back to back that complicates things, call 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:48.080 it the Lions and get blown out in the Super Bowl. 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.399 If that were to happen, and then I were to 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:56.040 go on TV and be like, that's this year was 0:19:56.160 --> 0:20:02.000 the end of that team. They're done. Now there is 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:07.400 a time for a new chapter. People would say that, dude, 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:12.560 you're just a hater. And this is also an element 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:22.960 of a lot of my Mahomes frustration in and I'm 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.679 going to talk about this on the TV show today 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:30.679 in how he's discussed. Do you agree to Monsday that 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:38.399 all Lamar, josh Ann Burrow the year they had last 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:44.199 year elevated them, even if not in their actual ranking, 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:51.119 but people elevated them their standing, and that people felt 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:57.560 their seasons combined with the year Mahomes had narrowed the 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:01.399 gap for best quarterback, and some people flipped it. You 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:07.160 agree with that, right, That's like conventional wisdom, Okay. And 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.920 this is where the point that I make that Mahomes 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.960 is not judged against his peers, I think is crystallized. 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:27.360 Let's pretend Patrick this year had any of their seasons 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:32.920 last year. Okay, Let's start with Joe. Patrick puts up 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:39.119 insane numbers and the Chiefs miss the playoffs. Does that 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:44.119 help or does anyone be like, Okay, that helped Patrick's. 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.360 Back dynasty is definitely over. 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:53.040 Okay, So all right, let's do Lamar's year. Patrick puts 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.760 up insane numbers. The Chiefs are the you know, a 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:02.080 good but not great seed. They're the three, and for 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:08.000 the first time in his career, he does not make 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:12.200 a conference championship game because he loses in round two 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.120 to one of the other rival quarterbacks. Does that help 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:16.359 or hurt Patrick's standing? 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:18.080 Who had hurt him? 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:23.720 It would hurt him all right, STU. Josh Patrick wins league, 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:28.520 MVP team has a really good record, they get the 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:34.040 two seed, and then to go back to the super Bowl, 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.400 doesn't come through at the end and Josh beats him. 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:40.920 Yeah. 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:45.879 Is anybody then being like, Okay, Patrick has reclaimed or 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:50.320 they're like, oh mvpb damn Josh beat him? Now do 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.880 the flip side for any of those guys, all three 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:59.720 of them demons? Give them Patrick's year last year. They 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:04.119 have mediocre stats but lead the league in game winning 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:10.480 drives and comebacks, and he beats two of those guys 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:16.120 en route. I'm sorry, any of the those guys are 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.760 the one seed and beat Patrick to get to the 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:25.240 super Bowl. Imagine if I then went on TV and 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:30.520 was like, yeah, but his touch there, you know, Lamar's 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:35.879 touchdown interception ratio wasn't that impressive. I'm actually dinging him. 0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:41.399 It's just insane. And so I know I'm the Kansas 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:43.679 City guy. I know I have the tattoo that I 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.000 still don't know how to show on camera. I still 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:47.960 don't know what I'm supposed to do here. It's just 0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:50.360 a disaster. There we go, I see, I don't even 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:56.800 know what I'm there we go. Well, it's just here's 0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:06.160 the thing. It's just boring. It's just boring. And I 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.360 I also like just one other thing, because what has 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:14.960 become very in vogue and Bruce says it a lot, 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.600 and he and I talked about this, not like d 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.879 I'd like to talk about it, but discussed it on 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:25.800 the air the other the other day, which is because 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.359 it's become very in vogue to say something along the 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:33.120 lines of like, oh, Mahomes is doing Brady's career in reverse, 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:36.840 where Brady in the beginning won but didn't have the stats, 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.879 and Mahomes and then later in his career had the 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:46.760 crazy numbers. Mahomes are but it's just inaccurate. And here's 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:52.000 what I mean. Mahomes early and every year of his 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:56.080 career except the last two first five years one and 0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:02.200 had MVP caliber stats and the last two years he's won, 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.600 but he hasn't had the crazy numbers until the playoffs. 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:04.840 Right. 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:09.600 But this idea that Tom Brady post two thousand and 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:15.120 seven was just year in, year out, this statistical monster, 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:21.399 it's just not true. So Tom Brady two thousand and 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.880 seven had what at that point the greatest quarterback season ever. 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.560 He then misses two thousand and eight due to injury. 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:32.520 Two thousand and nine, tom Brady's team was ten and 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:38.760 six and he had twenty eight touchdowns thirteen interceptions, and 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:42.919 they lost their first playoff game. Then twenty ten, he 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:46.800 had one of the greatest statistical seasons ever thirty six touchdowns, 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.879 four picks, and twenty eleven he was in line with 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:54.840 it thirty nine touchdowns, twelve picks, and then twenty twelve 0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:59.240 it's down to a ninety eight passer rating and twenty 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:04.919 thirteen twenty five touchdowns, eleven picks and in eighty seven rating. 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:12.600 That's in twenty thirteen, and then obviously twenty fourteen, they 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.520 win the Super Bowl. Twenty fifteen, he has an all 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:20.240 time twenty fifteen sixteen to seventeen all time stats years 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:25.359 where he has a combined doing the math on the fly, 0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.440 ninety six touchdowns, fifteen picks, a one toh eight rating 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.320 over the course of three years. But then the very 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.639 next year twenty eighteen, they go eleven to five. He 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.560 is twenty nine touchdowns eleven picks, but they win the 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:42.200 Super Bowl twenty nineteen twenty four touchdowns, eight picks in 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.359 eighty eight rating and leaves the Patriots and then goes 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.600 on the sick run in Tampa. The point I'm making 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:53.639 is this, even Pete Brady had these season like the 0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.879 season where it's like, oh, twenty nine touchdowns, eleven picks, 0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.919 twenty four touchdowns, eight picks, twenty five touch downs eleven picks, 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:05.760 it was not every single year statistical excellence. It was 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:10.639 every single year when the division make the playoffs, and 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.520 it is at the tail end of his Patriots tenure, 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.360 every single year make a conference championship game. But it's 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:22.080 just it's we've got to be honest about what real 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.480 expectations are, and we've got to be honest about what 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:35.720 the guys who are allegedly in Patrick's league. If Patrick 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.120 had the season they just had, and they just had 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:41.159 the season Patrick just had, how would we view it 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.160 that's all I'm saying. Hey, guys, talking about my friends 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.280 at boost Mobile. Ever sign up for a phone plan, 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.880 thinking wow, great price, and then a few months later 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.600 it's like surprise, Bill's even higher. Boost Mobile. 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