Speaker 1: I am all in. I want to kiss you. I
Speaker 1: am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey, everybody, listen,
Speaker 1: we have a very special guest. Uh, My litt vent
Speaker 1: Amelia is going to join us. My good buddy for
Speaker 1: over twenty years. Uh. He's one of the most decorated
Speaker 1: and well deserving of those awards and nominations actors working
Speaker 1: in the business today. Uh. He's a personal friend of mine. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's a terrific, terrific guy, terrific actor. Uh. He's also
Speaker 1: done some of the most interesting work right now. He's
Speaker 1: Jack Pearson on uh This is Us the smash Hit
Speaker 1: on NBC. But he's also doing a podcast called Strawberry Spring,
Speaker 1: which is on I Heart. Uh. It's a Stephen King
Speaker 1: uh kind of a murder mysteries doing Garrett Hudland and
Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney The Wonderful Sydney Sweeney and others. And so
Speaker 1: he's he's doing that podcast and I think they've they've
Speaker 1: done a couple of episodes, eight episodes or something, and
Speaker 1: they're in the can and they're they're downloadable on Wednesdays
Speaker 1: on my Heart. Uh. But we're gonna talk to Milo
Speaker 1: and uh I'm very excited. Um, any chance to spend
Speaker 1: some time with Milo as time well spent and uh
Speaker 1: so we're we're going to talk to Milo and uh
Speaker 1: after these messages. Yeah, Mr Milo, there he is. What's
Speaker 1: up brother? How you doing? Man? How are you doing? Guy?
Speaker 1: I'm great, dude, great to see you must be so busy.
Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to do this, absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, really really appreciate how you doing. What's
Speaker 1: going on? You know, we we sold the house, we
Speaker 1: moved close to the beach, and the Nick's back in
Speaker 1: school and you know we're just we're just living our lives. Dude.
Speaker 1: That's great. Anything happened in your life? Uh lately taking
Speaker 1: over the entertainment business one or two things, you know.
Speaker 1: You know me, I'm married to work. Um now things
Speaker 1: things are, things are well, you know, plugging away six
Speaker 1: season of the show. Um and uh they're a little
Speaker 1: traveling over the break on the hiatus. Decided not to
Speaker 1: work and try and spend some time with people. You know,
Speaker 1: what I found was there were a lot of people,
Speaker 1: of course, coming out of what last year was that
Speaker 1: I think needed to be reminded that that the world
Speaker 1: will open back up, things will level, things will right,
Speaker 1: And I kind of took it upon myself to just
Speaker 1: travel around and see a few friends best I could
Speaker 1: as safely as I could, knowing that maybe they needed
Speaker 1: to see someone outside of their immediate world. So that's
Speaker 1: what I did. And now I'm back in the grind
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, work, traffic, all the all the like,
Speaker 1: wearing makeup things like that. Yeah, man, you're keeping it real,
Speaker 1: I see on your social Yeah, you'll go out and
Speaker 1: you'll and you'll travel around. Uh, and you'll you'll go
Speaker 1: great distances. I mean you'll just drive, drive, drive, You'll
Speaker 1: visit the Grand and you'll visit you'll take that what
Speaker 1: are you take an airstream with you and just yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Last last year I picked up my first air stream
Speaker 1: and realized it wasn't quite as big enough as big
Speaker 1: as what I'd like to have, So I sold that
Speaker 1: got a second one that was bigger. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I again, you know, I mean, you know me.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think as long as we've known each other,
Speaker 1: it's like we've always just talked about being like kind
Speaker 1: of out in the world and me being out in
Speaker 1: the world, and you know, once the kind of globe
Speaker 1: slowed down, we had to reassess what getting out of
Speaker 1: our own houses. And um, I found a lot of
Speaker 1: comfort taking a trailer, taking an airstream and actually like
Speaker 1: getting around and seeing what's next door, seeing kind of
Speaker 1: my neighbors. I mean, when I was a kid, I
Speaker 1: used to take trips all the time. I mean we'd
Speaker 1: go to Arizona, we'd go to Oregon, we'd go to Utah.
Speaker 1: We kind of just go maybe as far as Colorado,
Speaker 1: but we take these family trips and and uh, I
Speaker 1: just really enjoy it. I definitely enjoy it. So and yeah,
Speaker 1: and then then eventually I post. I think I haven't
Speaker 1: posted anything on the social media and probably like well
Speaker 1: on Instagram, particularly probably like five or six months, which
Speaker 1: means I've probably got I don't know, maybe like a
Speaker 1: hundred photos ready to go up or something like that
Speaker 1: in the last six months. People will will we'll stop
Speaker 1: what they're doing and check it out for sure. Um yeah, maybe,
Speaker 1: but yeah, what a wonderful thing it is to travel,
Speaker 1: just to get out there, and especially in this business
Speaker 1: when you're when when it's so and you know I
Speaker 1: know how it is too, it's very it can get
Speaker 1: a little taxing on your system and you need to
Speaker 1: just go recharge and you need so I get out
Speaker 1: and you know, my big thing is skiing and I
Speaker 1: and even before I got the show, I throw stuff
Speaker 1: in my truck and drive to Utah. I'd be a
Speaker 1: snowstorm chaser and go chase this the powder and just
Speaker 1: do that for the winter as I could. I can't
Speaker 1: do it anymore because you have a family, but still
Speaker 1: we get out there. But yeah, the need to get
Speaker 1: out there and travel is is. Yeah, it's a wonderful no. Now, now,
Speaker 1: now you just bring roommates. That's how it is. You
Speaker 1: need to bring your roommates. You know. It's funny. It's
Speaker 1: like when you're talking about when you're talking about like recharging,
Speaker 1: you know you you and I always worked the same,
Speaker 1: you know. I remember I remember being on set and
Speaker 1: so many moments like just having to like work worksop
Speaker 1: those lines and workshop those scenes. And you know, I
Speaker 1: was always grateful to do that with you because that's
Speaker 1: also your process. Um. But sometimes that just gets you
Speaker 1: get so focused on it. That's really the only thing
Speaker 1: you're thinking about, and you you never understand or I
Speaker 1: would never understand that I would just be kind of
Speaker 1: drawing from the well, I'd be pulling and pulling and
Speaker 1: pulling and like using all that kind of emotional currency
Speaker 1: or or spiritual currency or just kind of you know
Speaker 1: what we have to do as artists using that. At
Speaker 1: a certain point, you really need to fill that back up.
Speaker 1: And for me, it's always people that that I'm close to,
Speaker 1: you know, having a friend that I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: know for the rest of my life, and being able
Speaker 1: to spend time that doesn't feel like it's work, you know,
Speaker 1: and travel and also got seeing different sites and all
Speaker 1: that and seeing familiar sights too. Yeah, just just re
Speaker 1: refilling that. Well. It is a very demanding mean anything is,
Speaker 1: but I mean acting a very demanding job. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's not just what you're doing. It's not what you're
Speaker 1: doing in front of the camera. It's how you're interacting
Speaker 1: with everybody else on the set. And you do that
Speaker 1: particularly well because I think it's just your sort of
Speaker 1: a naturally outgoing, uh friendly person, naturally outgoing, outgoing, naturally
Speaker 1: outgoing introvert. No, there isn't introvert in you. There is
Speaker 1: there is a side of you that's very introverted. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't it you know, it doesn't make you um,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't make you block off the world
Speaker 1: or block off people. I mean you're still open to
Speaker 1: people while you're working. So I always I was, I
Speaker 1: was always uh very impressed by that fact. Um, how
Speaker 1: did we meet? What do you remember the first time
Speaker 1: we met? Oh man, I don't remember the first moment,
Speaker 1: I think I very much just remember that first day
Speaker 1: of filming it and that first day of filming is
Speaker 1: when you, Luke and Jess were at odds. He was
Speaker 1: kind of forced to have to go to school, and
Speaker 1: we're doing that big walk and talk right before you
Speaker 1: pushed me in the lake. That was the first thing
Speaker 1: we did together. I think it was or no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what it was. I think the first thing
Speaker 1: we did together was getting off the bus. I think
Speaker 1: we actually they gave us a moment one which was
Speaker 1: a simple scene, barely anything spoken. But I think that
Speaker 1: was like the first like real working moment. I think
Speaker 1: we met each other in passing when I got the job,
Speaker 1: because wait, did we do table reads? Yes? We did
Speaker 1: early on we did for a couple of seasons. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I think we probably met maybe at a table
Speaker 1: reader or shortly before. I really can't remember. What I
Speaker 1: remember is just diving right in, like like no pleasant trees, no,
Speaker 1: no bullsh just literally like this is Scott, this is mine,
Speaker 1: Like this is how we're gonna, you know, and to
Speaker 1: what was always funny to me us dude, You and
Speaker 1: I were always like really cool and engaged and had
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. But of course we're playing
Speaker 1: these characters that you know, Jess was. He was a
Speaker 1: punk kid who didn't want to hear it from anybody.
Speaker 1: And you know, Luke was losing his mind with this
Speaker 1: kid that he got saddled with from his sister, and
Speaker 1: and you know, who you and I were could not
Speaker 1: have been more opposite than who Jess and Luke were.
Speaker 1: But also where Jess and Luke kind of got to,
Speaker 1: I think ultimately was closer to who you and I
Speaker 1: were in terms of like like relationship and whatnot, you know,
Speaker 1: because I think I think, you know, Jess grew up,
Speaker 1: just learned some lessons, and Luke had been through some
Speaker 1: stuff and it's all fascinating. It's all fascinating. I remember
Speaker 1: I remember shooting that the Lake push scene, I remember
Speaker 1: the walking talk was like thirty we did like thirty takes,
Speaker 1: didn't we Yeah, we did, but the Lake Push was
Speaker 1: one that was that was the first one, and then
Speaker 1: we did get a safety just in case. I think
Speaker 1: we did it twice. Yeah, because I remember I had
Speaker 1: to I had to change. I had three different changes.
Speaker 1: Random Maybean was there. I had a blanket to like
Speaker 1: put around me just to change really quick on the
Speaker 1: on the go instead of going all the way back
Speaker 1: toward trailers on the other side of the last Samurai set,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like, yeah, Tom Cruise was over there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There were so many things that would come through that
Speaker 1: lit It was so fun to watch too. Like you
Speaker 1: you I remember being on that lot and seeing like
Speaker 1: George Clooney and Anthony Edwards playing basketball and then you
Speaker 1: knew Tom Cruise was shooting a movie. And then you'd
Speaker 1: walk past the Friends set to get from our stages
Speaker 1: and trailers to get to the back lot where the
Speaker 1: gazebo was, and you just like see them and see
Speaker 1: the cars, and you you talked to the security guys
Speaker 1: Ramos because you you know, you just you see these
Speaker 1: people every day, so you just start talking to we
Speaker 1: know their names and everything. And um, I mean would
Speaker 1: a magic time, And then thinking to myself as a
Speaker 1: young actor, Wow, I've got a spot. I've got I've
Speaker 1: got a concrete slab that has my name on it
Speaker 1: on the Warner Brothers Film Studio lot. Wow, I'm twenty
Speaker 1: four years old. This is unbelievable. It was cool for
Speaker 1: me too. I was in my early forties and it
Speaker 1: was it was like, I've I've got a parking spot
Speaker 1: over here with my name on that. That was that
Speaker 1: was awesome. It's so cool. Uh yeah. I remember when
Speaker 1: they were doing Oceans eleven or twelve or thirteen, whichever
Speaker 1: one it was, and they were right across the street
Speaker 1: from my It's like Brad Pitt and Cluney pulled up
Speaker 1: on their motorcycles and then al Pacino got dropped off
Speaker 1: his trailer. Al Pacino's trailer was was catty corner from
Speaker 1: my trailer, and I went over there. I actually went
Speaker 1: over there and tried to meet him. Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: p A was like, how did it go? Not well?
Speaker 1: Did not go well? It didn't go well. She looked
Speaker 1: at me like, get out of here, you jerk. What
Speaker 1: are you doing. You're not gonna meet him. He's in
Speaker 1: his trail to go away, and I'm like, come on,
Speaker 1: I just I just want to I just want to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta meet the guy. You're like, but
Speaker 1: that's but that's my trailer, Like I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: some crazy guy on the lot. I'm just you know,
Speaker 1: that's my trail over there. I'm doing a TV series.
Speaker 1: I just want to meet the guy. She goes, if
Speaker 1: you don't get out of here, I want to call
Speaker 1: security to get out. Oh man, it's so funny. He's
Speaker 1: he's such a he's such a lovely man, this warm guy.
Speaker 1: I did. I did a bunch of table reads on
Speaker 1: this script that he really wanted to do about Salvador
Speaker 1: Dolly and I remember I did one and it was
Speaker 1: it was out and uh Kelsey Grammer and um Rita
Speaker 1: Wilson and a handful assemble. Blair was there and say,
Speaker 1: handful of actors and we just kind of read the
Speaker 1: script and workshop dude, and you know, he just kind
Speaker 1: of do that. Then you forget about it, and then
Speaker 1: like a month later the like, hey my, look al
Speaker 1: wants you to do it again, and I go okay,
Speaker 1: And then like two months later, hey my, I wants
Speaker 1: to bring you in to do this again. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: why is Al calling me? And really that's crazy, But
Speaker 1: just like he's just one of those guys that dies
Speaker 1: completely into his his r and his work. I remember,
Speaker 1: like I got tried to do his house to watch
Speaker 1: solomn A. He'd he done a recorded version, a filmed
Speaker 1: version of a stage play starring Jessica chas Stain before
Speaker 1: she became Jessica chaff Stain, And I remember I remember
Speaker 1: everybody just like whoa, who is this this girl? Who's
Speaker 1: this woman? She is amazing? And it was just but
Speaker 1: also at the same time, you know, like kind of
Speaker 1: as a fanboy, you're sitting I'm like, I'm sitting at
Speaker 1: al paciano his house watching something that he filmed, and
Speaker 1: he's asking me my opinion. Wow, this is this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Remember the motorcyclists to have with the with advance and
Speaker 1: heine short shots. It was really loud. Yeah. I pull
Speaker 1: up to a little theater parking lot to turn around
Speaker 1: in West Hollywood, and I almost ran over. Albacino wanted
Speaker 1: that parking lot. Was there a p a to tell
Speaker 1: you not to tell no? No? He was by himself.
Speaker 1: He was getting out of his his suv and he
Speaker 1: was going into the theater. You know that little old
Speaker 1: globe theater they have in West Hollywood. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: there and I roar up and I and he and
Speaker 1: he and he gives me this like whoa, whoa because
Speaker 1: it was really loud. And I came in and I
Speaker 1: didn't see him, and I didn't. It's not I didn't really,
Speaker 1: But that's when I got to meet him. And I
Speaker 1: got off my motorcycle and I said, you have no
Speaker 1: idea how much I wanted to meet you. You were
Speaker 1: over at the Warner Brothers lot and I was filming
Speaker 1: a show and I just wanted to say you were
Speaker 1: one of my big inspirations. And he was really cool
Speaker 1: with me. He was just like, oh my god, he goes,
Speaker 1: he goes your motorcycles really loud. I said, well, that's
Speaker 1: to keep me alive, you know. So yeah, I know
Speaker 1: for for how for how grand he is, for how
Speaker 1: grand his performances are. Yeah, he's an artist, just like
Speaker 1: you or I. Yeah he is. He really truly is,
Speaker 1: and and he champions actors. He really, he really does.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty wonderful thing. It's it's good good reminder
Speaker 1: for being on the other end of things, when there
Speaker 1: is that younger actor or someone who's maybe not quite
Speaker 1: in a position you're in, like to notice the talent,
Speaker 1: to champion the talent, to give them real, honest ideas
Speaker 1: so that they can grow in their careers. I could
Speaker 1: talk to you all day. Um oh, dude, all day, Scott.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of fan questions. I have to ask
Speaker 1: you a couple of fan questions. Okay, yeah, no, man,
Speaker 1: go for Okay, So all right, let's see Jessica. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's Jessica Jesstain wants to know Jessica from she's from Portland,
Speaker 1: wants to know looking back, what do you think about
Speaker 1: Jesse and Rory's relationship. It's been a while since I've
Speaker 1: thought about Jesse and Rory's relationship. I know people always
Speaker 1: ask me questions about it, but I think you know
Speaker 1: it's things are complicated when you're young. I think we
Speaker 1: can all understand this. I think we can all appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're going through the developmental change. You
Speaker 1: are seeing things in the world that you've never seen before.
Speaker 1: You're experiencing things like from from the heart, from the
Speaker 1: from the gut, from the head that you're experiencing for
Speaker 1: the first time, you know. So I think jessin Rory,
Speaker 1: I think they were what they needed at the moment
Speaker 1: from each other. And at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. They went in different directions, and
Speaker 1: that's okay too, that's kind of great. Um. But I
Speaker 1: think what I did always appreciate about the two of
Speaker 1: them was, you know, they outside of what anybody wanted
Speaker 1: to put onto those two, they they kind of made
Speaker 1: their own world. And I think that's pretty cool. I
Speaker 1: think when there's always going to be outside influence and
Speaker 1: tell you how to behave, what to read, what to do,
Speaker 1: what to look for, what are the pitfalls, what are
Speaker 1: the glories? Hey, this is what I did when I
Speaker 1: was your age. But really that's just people giving you
Speaker 1: their version of what they think your life should be.
Speaker 1: So I think Jesse and Rory like really kind of
Speaker 1: found their own world and created their own world, and
Speaker 1: it lasted beyond just them romantically as teenagers to where
Speaker 1: they had an actual friendship as they became young adults.
Speaker 1: Would you do it again if they wanted to do
Speaker 1: some more episodes? I mean, the thing the thing is,
Speaker 1: this is, like I can't ever get away from it,
Speaker 1: you know. It's it's for me knowing that like you
Speaker 1: and Lauren and Alexis and probably just about everybody else
Speaker 1: in the show would show up, and on top of
Speaker 1: it would probably be Dan and Amy they're writing their
Speaker 1: asses off. It's like, yeah, why wouldn't I, um, if
Speaker 1: it would feel like it's there for the right reason
Speaker 1: versus the wrong reason, like and we all know those
Speaker 1: wrong reasons where shows think that the show is bigger
Speaker 1: than the characters, so they'll try and bring it back
Speaker 1: just to get more money. And it's like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: are you are there really more stories to tell? That's
Speaker 1: that's where I always kind of go back to the
Speaker 1: nostalgia of the past of stories that we were a
Speaker 1: part of. Is are there still more stories to tell?
Speaker 1: Have these characters grown to a point where we actually
Speaker 1: really want to see more of them, We want to
Speaker 1: understand where they've been, We're going to discover something new.
Speaker 1: So I think if they did want to bring it back,
Speaker 1: and if it was it was Amy and Damn at
Speaker 1: the Helm and you guys are all showing up, I'd
Speaker 1: be a jerk to not show up. Um that you
Speaker 1: just made a lot of people very happy. Not that
Speaker 1: not that you don't anyway, but when they hear that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be very happy. No, I'm listen every everybody,
Speaker 1: you know. The way that I look at it was
Speaker 1: the uh, the four films that were put together after
Speaker 1: the fact, that felt like the extra slice of cake,
Speaker 1: after you've already had cake, you had that favorite meal,
Speaker 1: you had the cake, and then you've got something even
Speaker 1: extra like I don't know if they would bring it
Speaker 1: back or in the form that maybe people would want,
Speaker 1: because I'm also big on Hey, we're artists and we're actors,
Speaker 1: and we evolve and we grow, and yes, we played
Speaker 1: these parts and they may be iconic and they may
Speaker 1: be evergreen, but at the same time, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I look forward to playing a lot of different men
Speaker 1: over the course of my career. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: sledgehammers scene. My my absolute favorite just there you get
Speaker 1: a room. Yeah, you know, because of the fact that
Speaker 1: I was talking so much, and it was just nice
Speaker 1: to do an action. It was nice to do some
Speaker 1: physical acting some and just a clever little quick scene. Ah.
Speaker 1: And the pressure was on and we had already we'd
Speaker 1: already proven that we can operate well under pressure with
Speaker 1: the lake Thingum, what do you think of that scene? Oh? Man, again,
Speaker 1: that was years ago, but I do remember. I remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a whole whole bunch of gaff and gauwe
Speaker 1: going on beforehand that ultimately, you know, the came to
Speaker 1: the moment where you start hitting the wall and I
Speaker 1: think just just kind of not really understand what's going on.
Speaker 1: And then and you go there you got your room.
Speaker 1: I think that was the line there. It's like, there
Speaker 1: you have your room space or whatever. And yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we had we had a lot of work.
Speaker 1: I have to go back and watch two seasons from
Speaker 1: twenty years ago to like re the truly understand. You know,
Speaker 1: I just saw the scene because I hadn't seen a
Speaker 1: year in the life. I went to the premiere. You didn't.
Speaker 1: You weren't there, which was a great disappointment. Um, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were busy and you were filming something. Um.
Speaker 1: But the premiere was this overwhelming fans celebration. So many
Speaker 1: people showed up in Westwood. It was it was craziness.
Speaker 1: But I want you know, they played Winter there and
Speaker 1: I thought, boy, this is really well done. Uh. They
Speaker 1: they felt like little rom coms. They felt like really
Speaker 1: high quality, uh independent films. Um. It didn't seem like
Speaker 1: television anymore. It seemed like it had graduated into something,
Speaker 1: you know, it morphed into sort of the film world.
Speaker 1: Um Um. But I I didn't watch the other three episodes.
Speaker 1: I just don't like I don't like watching myself. I
Speaker 1: don't you know. I spent so much time with the
Speaker 1: show that I didn't watch it. And then I finally
Speaker 1: saw the scene with the flower and you and me
Speaker 1: and Laurela had gone to California to do her wilding,
Speaker 1: and I was so touched by that scene. I was
Speaker 1: so moved by that scene because your character had come
Speaker 1: full circle and now you were the one taking care
Speaker 1: of me and it, and I actually teared up a
Speaker 1: little bit because I missed you so much and I
Speaker 1: know you're such a good guy, and and what a
Speaker 1: perfect moment that was for me. And in all of
Speaker 1: the those four episodes, that was my favorite moment. That
Speaker 1: scene was my favorite moment. Um. Anyway, that's well, I'll
Speaker 1: say about that. Let's get into your podcast. You have
Speaker 1: a podcast. You're doing a podcast with Stephen King. Tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that. Um, I mean, I
Speaker 1: got approached, just like an acting job. You know, I
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts, have been a podcast, and I'm in
Speaker 1: the process of putting up a couple of my own
Speaker 1: in the scripted world, which hopefully I can talk about soon.
Speaker 1: But this, I just I got approached. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've always grown up with Stephen King novels, and once
Speaker 1: I had a little bit of bravery and read some
Speaker 1: and and understand the writing and find my favorites and
Speaker 1: all of that, I just I was a fan like
Speaker 1: anybody else. So when the opportunity came up to be
Speaker 1: a part of this, I was familiar with the short story,
Speaker 1: but I hadn't read it. I know it was only
Speaker 1: eleven pages. But what I did read were the first
Speaker 1: three episodes that were written by Lee Metzger, and I
Speaker 1: just thought, this writing is phenomenal. A one thousand percent
Speaker 1: captures the essence of a Stephen King's story, and I'd
Speaker 1: like to do it. So, you know, just like a
Speaker 1: normal job, you line up to meet people, although you're
Speaker 1: not going in for fittings, you're not going in for
Speaker 1: hair and makeup tests. You're just they're understanding what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do with your voice and how it's going to go. So,
Speaker 1: and these murders happen in one section of time, and
Speaker 1: then we jump forward and they're happening again. So you
Speaker 1: start to understand there's a serial killer, and there is
Speaker 1: an investigative journalist that starts at the school paper but
Speaker 1: also kind of graduates beyond that who's investigating these and
Speaker 1: that's played by Garrett Headlind, This guy that works the
Speaker 1: newspaper played by Sydney Sweeney, and I play Um, Garrett's
Speaker 1: friend who's also a radio DJ at the time, and
Speaker 1: we're all just trying to make sense and understand what
Speaker 1: these killings are about and who's doing it and trying
Speaker 1: to like just really figure it out. And in true
Speaker 1: Stephen King fashion, it's it's darkness, it's scary and it's
Speaker 1: real and you kind of are haunted by it and
Speaker 1: you know you're you're really thinking about those things that
Speaker 1: kind of lurk under the bed or outside your window
Speaker 1: at night. Fantastic. Yeah, it's fantastic. What an interesting project. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Stephen King all about Yeah, he's all about you know
Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Vermont, you know the woods, Ye, all that yeah,
Speaker 1: fog fog rolling in every years. You know. My god. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's great. So that's so those you're making those episodes
Speaker 1: now and they're they're download loadable now, they're already they're
Speaker 1: already made, they're already made. It took me not a
Speaker 1: lot of time to shoot all eight of my episodes. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're out on our Heart Radio Spotify podcast. New episodes
Speaker 1: come out every Wednesday. So I think there's three episodes
Speaker 1: now we've got five more on top of that. And um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it's the story really builds. I
Speaker 1: think it's great. I mean, you know, as a kid,
Speaker 1: I used to listen to these these radio plays when
Speaker 1: I go on road trips to my dad, Like I said,
Speaker 1: and it's just, uh, this is exactly that, this is
Speaker 1: exactly that. All right. I hadn't I wasn't even aware
Speaker 1: of that. And then yeah, producers told me that you
Speaker 1: had a a podcast. I was fascinating. Um, here's a question,
Speaker 1: here's another fan question. Yeah. Um, you've played a couple
Speaker 1: of different iconic roles, uh in your career so far
Speaker 1: many more to come. Who do you think is what
Speaker 1: do you think Jack Pearson versus Jess who did you
Speaker 1: have more fun playing or are you enjoying Jack Pearson
Speaker 1: as much as you played Jess. I enjoyed Jack Pierson
Speaker 1: as much as I enjoyed playing Jess. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you know, for for me and I know we've talked
Speaker 1: about this in terms of like acting and whatnot, but
Speaker 1: I really put myself into a character holy like you know,
Speaker 1: w h O L like just the whole thing. Um.
Speaker 1: I immersed myself in it, uh to the point where
Speaker 1: I can take that character off like a costume and
Speaker 1: lead them on set and step away and just be myself.
Speaker 1: Or when cut is called, I get to step away
Speaker 1: and be myself. So when I was twenty four and
Speaker 1: I was playing Jess, I was completely invested. As I'm
Speaker 1: in my forties now playing Jack, I'm completely invested in
Speaker 1: Jack and six years deep. The nice thing about a
Speaker 1: guy like Jack and what I was able to experience
Speaker 1: with Jess as well, was knowing these men so deeply
Speaker 1: and so intimately that I was acting on instinct. All
Speaker 1: I had to do was truly learned my lines, show up,
Speaker 1: look my co star in the eye. And then there's
Speaker 1: the character, you know, I mean, Harry, and the makeup,
Speaker 1: the wardrobe you know, of course kind of like puts
Speaker 1: you into that that mode of the character. But it's
Speaker 1: all acting on instinct. So I I enjoy it. I
Speaker 1: really do. Um. I'm sure you know these aren't the
Speaker 1: two defining characters all have, just like Peter PETRELLI wasn't.
Speaker 1: In addition, But I mean, you know, there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of men complex and incredibly simple that I would
Speaker 1: love to play that I'd love to kind of tell
Speaker 1: the stories of who aren't that? Who do you want
Speaker 1: to play? Who are you really itching to play? I mean,
Speaker 1: I tell you what. Last year I was lined up
Speaker 1: to play Evil kin Evil. Yeah, we got we got
Speaker 1: shut down. I mean I was fully transformed over um
Speaker 1: at some point. I'll show you the photos, the portraits
Speaker 1: we took because whoa. People people thought they were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna look just like him, Like, no, that's me,
Speaker 1: that's not him, that's me, that's not him. Um. I'd
Speaker 1: like to get back to that project and people that
Speaker 1: was you know, he's he's an icon and he's an
Speaker 1: American legend. Um. He was also uh not an amazing
Speaker 1: husband and not an amazing father in ways and really
Speaker 1: had uh a tough outlook on the people that were
Speaker 1: supporting him, and that he just didn't treat well. So
Speaker 1: he was a complex character, very complex man that I
Speaker 1: would like to get back to that and the stories
Speaker 1: we we had lined up in the six episodes we
Speaker 1: were going to do. I mean, we're Wow, what a journey.
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with him. I grew up
Speaker 1: with that guy. Um, I mean he was part of
Speaker 1: the entertainment of my youth. Yeah. It seems like every
Speaker 1: month or every couple of months, Evil Kinevel was going
Speaker 1: to set another record jumping his motorcycle over you know,
Speaker 1: now thirty busses or forty busses or something in the
Speaker 1: Houston Astrodome or wherever. And he always fell, and he
Speaker 1: always broke dozens of bones in his legs, his hips,
Speaker 1: his I mean, he was always in surgery. He was
Speaker 1: always but you know what he always did, and what
Speaker 1: the biggest message was, what you get back up. You
Speaker 1: get back up no matter what you're gonna fall, but
Speaker 1: you're always going to get back up. And I think
Speaker 1: that was what people identified with. Yes, people people would
Speaker 1: watch him to see the crash, but also that triumphant
Speaker 1: get back up even in the most pain Like when
Speaker 1: he crashed it whimbly, I think he was he'd made
Speaker 1: an announcement saying, this is the last time I'm never
Speaker 1: going to jump. I mean that dude was really broken
Speaker 1: once that happened, really broken. But he had to as
Speaker 1: a point, get up and walk out of that stadium,
Speaker 1: even though he had help, but he had to do it.
Speaker 1: He could not do it. It was a big inspiration
Speaker 1: to kids. You know, it's a big message of his
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he did a lot of other badge,
Speaker 1: but he got back up. It just it was staggering
Speaker 1: to watch a man put himself through that. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: a little kid watching this guy, and they're showing it
Speaker 1: in slow motion. The thing I remember most about Evil
Speaker 1: Kin Evil is his attempt to jump the Grand Canyon
Speaker 1: in that rocket car and then the slow motion replays
Speaker 1: on ABC's Wide World of Sports of him crashing and
Speaker 1: the and his bones but you could see his bones
Speaker 1: breaking on on the on the concrete. When I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just like, why is this guy doing so
Speaker 1: that contract is still still has life. You can go back.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go back and do that. Yeah, we're we're
Speaker 1: trying to figure that out. I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: got shut down because of covid Um, where the whole
Speaker 1: world just stopped, and then ultimately I personally ran out
Speaker 1: of time to be able to go film that because
Speaker 1: it was six episodes, it was a pretty big, ambitious project,
Speaker 1: and we were also producing it, so you know, we
Speaker 1: knew that we we could step away from it and
Speaker 1: hopefully go back to US. I think right now there's
Speaker 1: conversations about bringing that back next spring once I wrapped
Speaker 1: This is Us, you know, go blond again, put my
Speaker 1: fake hairy chest on and and get back into the
Speaker 1: white leathers. Um. But yeah, I'm sure. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we spend six years on the show too. You know,
Speaker 1: you know this, It's like when it's done, you're kind
Speaker 1: of ready to take a break, but you're also peaked
Speaker 1: to know what else is out there? You know, what
Speaker 1: are the opportunities can can can I jump on? What
Speaker 1: are the characters can I play? Because as an artist,
Speaker 1: you know, I always want to challenge myself and I
Speaker 1: want to grow when I want to play things that
Speaker 1: aren't the same as what I've been doing, Like you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't need to play another Jack Pearson father,
Speaker 1: even though people see me in that light right now,
Speaker 1: because we'll I've done it for six years. Maybe I
Speaker 1: need to do something different, like evil and Evil was
Speaker 1: the complete opposite, because they're going to come after you
Speaker 1: for every Jack Pearson role. Yeah, of course they're gonna
Speaker 1: want you to play that for the rest of your life. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 1: And I could probably make a nice, nice living in
Speaker 1: a nice career that. But also it's like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be satisfied for me. I'd rather just you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, learn how to go like shaping knives in
Speaker 1: Japan for the rest of my life. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly. I mean, yeah, uh, keep learning, keep changing. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Why do you think here's another fan question. This is
Speaker 1: from Maggie from Oh Moosehead Lake. Why do you think
Speaker 1: Gilmore is so special and has stood the test of time.
Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of wish fulfillment, and I
Speaker 1: think it's got a magical quality quality to it. At
Speaker 1: the same time, I think it shows on an emotional
Speaker 1: level experiences that we all go through. As simple as that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's wish film and everybody wants
Speaker 1: to live in a small town with the gazebo. That's
Speaker 1: the wish part. The emotional side, we all experienced, you know, love,
Speaker 1: we all experienced heartbreak, we all experience coming across some
Speaker 1: zany characters in our in our worlds. Um. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, all we're looking for is companionship and
Speaker 1: happiness and love and and hopefully support. I think that's
Speaker 1: a big thing. And you know, I think I think
Speaker 1: Gilmore had a lot of that, had a lot of
Speaker 1: supportful like not supporting, but there was there were a
Speaker 1: lot of characters that were, yes, let's say, supporting others
Speaker 1: in an emotional way. A lot of love, a lot
Speaker 1: of love. There a lot of love. Okay, here we
Speaker 1: have Jennifer from Dallas. What was your favorite Okay, here's
Speaker 1: a Jess question. What was your favorite part of Jess
Speaker 1: and what was your least favorite part of Jess? Um.
Speaker 1: I think they might have been one of the same
Speaker 1: as confidence, because I think he had a lot of confidence,
Speaker 1: and he also had a lot of insecurities and he
Speaker 1: kind of had to find his way back to that center,
Speaker 1: back to that middle, and it made him complex, it
Speaker 1: made him have to discover the sides of his existence.
Speaker 1: That were constantly battling inside of him, you know, the
Speaker 1: exposure to the vulnerability, but yet the bravado of no
Speaker 1: I know exactly the answer to these twenty questions because
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a kid genius and I root um.
Speaker 1: You know, those are my favorite sides of Jess. I
Speaker 1: just I really like that, and I liked when he
Speaker 1: would allow that vulnerability to happen and he was rewarded
Speaker 1: for it, you know, kind of like those breakthrough moments
Speaker 1: with Luke, the breakthrough moments with his father, that we
Speaker 1: only got a glimpse of those breakthrough moments with Rory,
Speaker 1: that we that we understood we're happening. I think those
Speaker 1: moments were wonderful because it happens in life. We all
Speaker 1: do that. We put ourselves out there. We may speak honestly,
Speaker 1: but yet with the idea that maybe somebody's not going
Speaker 1: to respond. Well, but the fear is just us projecting
Speaker 1: what could what we think may happen, versus having a
Speaker 1: good honest conversation, and that just usually comes up being
Speaker 1: an adult. M hm. You know, well, I don't think
Speaker 1: they could have picked a better actor to play Jess.
Speaker 1: I don't think they could have picked the better actor
Speaker 1: to play Jack Pearson. Um. I think when you have
Speaker 1: the experience of working with Milo, and I'm talking to
Speaker 1: my audience directly, it's it's working at an in an
Speaker 1: elevated place. UM, when you would come on the set
Speaker 1: and we would do our work. UM, there was something
Speaker 1: very very calming, um, working with you, about working with you. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I miss it, and I miss you, and I
Speaker 1: love you, brother, and I'm so happy for all of
Speaker 1: your success and please continued success. I think you're I
Speaker 1: think I think you're just scratching the surface of where
Speaker 1: you're going to go in this business. I hope, I hope. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I'm discratching there, just hopefully
Speaker 1: can just create other opportunities where guys like us can
Speaker 1: get back on a set, you know, because I feel
Speaker 1: exactly the same way. I love the experience. Whenever I
Speaker 1: think about it, I was going back to like immediately
Speaker 1: standing outside of the diner, middle of the night, workshopping lines,
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, how you remember long passage?
Speaker 1: Ago enough, Scott, how do you remember long passage? And
Speaker 1: you go, you say the sentence, but then you tack
Speaker 1: on the first word of the next sentence and then
Speaker 1: you just string them all together. I never, I never,
Speaker 1: I never never thought about that. Okay, dude, we we
Speaker 1: would just work. I forgot about work and work, but
Speaker 1: it but it was it was always exciting and it
Speaker 1: was always fun, and it was like I was gonna
Speaker 1: be this is gonna be good, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a good five takes. Let's do it, yeah for you,
Speaker 1: because we'd have to do that many times for sure,
Speaker 1: Um yeah a lot. All right, buddy, you have to
Speaker 1: please come back. We have so many things we can
Speaker 1: talk about other than Gilmore girls, and I know, I
Speaker 1: know I could. I could be uh andy to your
Speaker 1: conan go vow all the best, um and thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you for your time, gentlemen. Love you buddy,
Speaker 1: my lo vent Amelia. Have a great day. We'll talk
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