1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: I am all in. I want to kiss you. I 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: am all in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey, everybody, listen, 3 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: we have a very special guest. Uh, My litt vent 4 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Amelia is going to join us. My good buddy for 5 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: over twenty years. Uh. He's one of the most decorated 6 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: and well deserving of those awards and nominations actors working 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: in the business today. Uh. He's a personal friend of mine. Uh. 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: He's a terrific, terrific guy, terrific actor. Uh. He's also 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: done some of the most interesting work right now. He's 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: Jack Pearson on uh This is Us the smash Hit 11 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: on NBC. But he's also doing a podcast called Strawberry Spring, 12 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: which is on I Heart. Uh. It's a Stephen King 13 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: uh kind of a murder mysteries doing Garrett Hudland and 14 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: Sydney Sweeney The Wonderful Sydney Sweeney and others. And so 15 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: he's he's doing that podcast and I think they've they've 16 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: done a couple of episodes, eight episodes or something, and 17 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: they're in the can and they're they're downloadable on Wednesdays 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: on my Heart. Uh. But we're gonna talk to Milo 19 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: and uh I'm very excited. Um, any chance to spend 20 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: some time with Milo as time well spent and uh 21 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: so we're we're going to talk to Milo and uh 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: after these messages. Yeah, Mr Milo, there he is. What's 23 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: up brother? How you doing? Man? How are you doing? Guy? 24 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm great, dude, great to see you must be so busy. 25 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to do this, absolutely, man, 26 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, really really appreciate how you doing. What's 27 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: going on? You know, we we sold the house, we 28 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: moved close to the beach, and the Nick's back in 29 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: school and you know we're just we're just living our lives. Dude. 30 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: That's great. Anything happened in your life? Uh lately taking 31 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: over the entertainment business one or two things, you know. 32 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: You know me, I'm married to work. Um now things 33 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: things are, things are well, you know, plugging away six 34 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: season of the show. Um and uh they're a little 35 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: traveling over the break on the hiatus. Decided not to 36 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: work and try and spend some time with people. You know, 37 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: what I found was there were a lot of people, 38 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: of course, coming out of what last year was that 39 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I think needed to be reminded that that the world 40 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: will open back up, things will level, things will right, 41 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: And I kind of took it upon myself to just 42 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: travel around and see a few friends best I could 43 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: as safely as I could, knowing that maybe they needed 44 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: to see someone outside of their immediate world. So that's 45 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: what I did. And now I'm back in the grind 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, work, traffic, all the all the like, 47 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: wearing makeup things like that. Yeah, man, you're keeping it real, 48 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: I see on your social Yeah, you'll go out and 49 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: you'll and you'll travel around. Uh, and you'll you'll go 50 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: great distances. I mean you'll just drive, drive, drive, You'll 51 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: visit the Grand and you'll visit you'll take that what 52 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: are you take an airstream with you and just yeah. Yeah. 53 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: Last last year I picked up my first air stream 54 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: and realized it wasn't quite as big enough as big 55 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: as what I'd like to have, So I sold that 56 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: got a second one that was bigger. Um. But yeah, 57 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: you know I again, you know, I mean, you know me. 58 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: It's like, I think as long as we've known each other, 59 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: it's like we've always just talked about being like kind 60 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: of out in the world and me being out in 61 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: the world, and you know, once the kind of globe 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: slowed down, we had to reassess what getting out of 63 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: our own houses. And um, I found a lot of 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: comfort taking a trailer, taking an airstream and actually like 65 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: getting around and seeing what's next door, seeing kind of 66 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: my neighbors. I mean, when I was a kid, I 67 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: used to take trips all the time. I mean we'd 68 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: go to Arizona, we'd go to Oregon, we'd go to Utah. 69 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: We kind of just go maybe as far as Colorado, 70 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: but we take these family trips and and uh, I 71 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: just really enjoy it. I definitely enjoy it. So and yeah, 72 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: and then then eventually I post. I think I haven't 73 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: posted anything on the social media and probably like well 74 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram, particularly probably like five or six months, which 75 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: means I've probably got I don't know, maybe like a 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: hundred photos ready to go up or something like that 77 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: in the last six months. People will will we'll stop 78 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing and check it out for sure. Um yeah, maybe, 79 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, what a wonderful thing it is to travel, 80 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: just to get out there, and especially in this business 81 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: when you're when when it's so and you know I 82 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: know how it is too, it's very it can get 83 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: a little taxing on your system and you need to 84 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: just go recharge and you need so I get out 85 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: and you know, my big thing is skiing and I 86 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: and even before I got the show, I throw stuff 87 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: in my truck and drive to Utah. I'd be a 88 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: snowstorm chaser and go chase this the powder and just 89 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: do that for the winter as I could. I can't 90 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: do it anymore because you have a family, but still 91 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: we get out there. But yeah, the need to get 92 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: out there and travel is is. Yeah, it's a wonderful no. Now, now, 93 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: now you just bring roommates. That's how it is. You 94 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: need to bring your roommates. You know. It's funny. It's 95 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: like when you're talking about when you're talking about like recharging, 96 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: you know you you and I always worked the same, 97 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: you know. I remember I remember being on set and 98 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: so many moments like just having to like work worksop 99 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: those lines and workshop those scenes. And you know, I 100 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: was always grateful to do that with you because that's 101 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: also your process. Um. But sometimes that just gets you 102 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: get so focused on it. That's really the only thing 103 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: you're thinking about, and you you never understand or I 104 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: would never understand that I would just be kind of 105 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: drawing from the well, I'd be pulling and pulling and 106 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: pulling and like using all that kind of emotional currency 107 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: or or spiritual currency or just kind of you know 108 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: what we have to do as artists using that. At 109 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: a certain point, you really need to fill that back up. 110 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: And for me, it's always people that that I'm close to, 111 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, having a friend that I know I'm gonna 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: know for the rest of my life, and being able 113 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: to spend time that doesn't feel like it's work, you know, 114 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: and travel and also got seeing different sites and all 115 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: that and seeing familiar sights too. Yeah, just just re 116 00:06:54,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: refilling that. Well. It is a very demanding mean anything is, 117 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: but I mean acting a very demanding job. Yeah, because 118 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: it's not just what you're doing. It's not what you're 119 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: doing in front of the camera. It's how you're interacting 120 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: with everybody else on the set. And you do that 121 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: particularly well because I think it's just your sort of 122 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: a naturally outgoing, uh friendly person, naturally outgoing, outgoing, naturally 123 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: outgoing introvert. No, there isn't introvert in you. There is 124 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: there is a side of you that's very introverted. But 125 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't it you know, it doesn't make you um, 126 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't make you block off the world 127 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: or block off people. I mean you're still open to 128 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: people while you're working. So I always I was, I 129 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: was always uh very impressed by that fact. Um, how 130 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: did we meet? What do you remember the first time 131 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: we met? Oh man, I don't remember the first moment, 132 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I think I very much just remember that first day 133 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: of filming it and that first day of filming is 134 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: when you, Luke and Jess were at odds. He was 135 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of forced to have to go to school, and 136 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: we're doing that big walk and talk right before you 137 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: pushed me in the lake. That was the first thing 138 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: we did together. I think it was or no, no, no, 139 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: you know what it was. I think the first thing 140 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: we did together was getting off the bus. I think 141 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: we actually they gave us a moment one which was 142 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: a simple scene, barely anything spoken. But I think that 143 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: was like the first like real working moment. I think 144 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: we met each other in passing when I got the job, 145 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: because wait, did we do table reads? Yes? We did 146 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: early on we did for a couple of seasons. Yeah. 147 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: Then I think we probably met maybe at a table 148 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: reader or shortly before. I really can't remember. What I 149 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: remember is just diving right in, like like no pleasant trees, no, 150 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: no bullsh just literally like this is Scott, this is mine, 151 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: Like this is how we're gonna, you know, and to 152 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: what was always funny to me us dude, You and 153 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: I were always like really cool and engaged and had 154 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. But of course we're playing 155 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: these characters that you know, Jess was. He was a 156 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: punk kid who didn't want to hear it from anybody. 157 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: And you know, Luke was losing his mind with this 158 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: kid that he got saddled with from his sister, and 159 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: and you know, who you and I were could not 160 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: have been more opposite than who Jess and Luke were. 161 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: But also where Jess and Luke kind of got to, 162 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: I think ultimately was closer to who you and I 163 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: were in terms of like like relationship and whatnot, you know, 164 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: because I think I think, you know, Jess grew up, 165 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: just learned some lessons, and Luke had been through some 166 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: stuff and it's all fascinating. It's all fascinating. I remember 167 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: I remember shooting that the Lake push scene, I remember 168 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: the walking talk was like thirty we did like thirty takes, 169 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: didn't we Yeah, we did, but the Lake Push was 170 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: one that was that was the first one, and then 171 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: we did get a safety just in case. I think 172 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: we did it twice. Yeah, because I remember I had 173 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: to I had to change. I had three different changes. 174 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Random Maybean was there. I had a blanket to like 175 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: put around me just to change really quick on the 176 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: on the go instead of going all the way back 177 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: toward trailers on the other side of the last Samurai set, 178 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, it was like, yeah, Tom Cruise was over there. Yeah. 179 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: There were so many things that would come through that 180 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: lit It was so fun to watch too. Like you 181 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: you I remember being on that lot and seeing like 182 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: George Clooney and Anthony Edwards playing basketball and then you 183 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: knew Tom Cruise was shooting a movie. And then you'd 184 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: walk past the Friends set to get from our stages 185 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: and trailers to get to the back lot where the 186 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: gazebo was, and you just like see them and see 187 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: the cars, and you you talked to the security guys 188 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: Ramos because you you know, you just you see these 189 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: people every day, so you just start talking to we 190 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: know their names and everything. And um, I mean would 191 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: a magic time, And then thinking to myself as a 192 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: young actor, Wow, I've got a spot. I've got I've 193 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: got a concrete slab that has my name on it 194 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: on the Warner Brothers Film Studio lot. Wow, I'm twenty 195 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: four years old. This is unbelievable. It was cool for 196 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: me too. I was in my early forties and it 197 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: was it was like, I've I've got a parking spot 198 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: over here with my name on that. That was that 199 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: was awesome. It's so cool. Uh yeah. I remember when 200 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: they were doing Oceans eleven or twelve or thirteen, whichever 201 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: one it was, and they were right across the street 202 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: from my It's like Brad Pitt and Cluney pulled up 203 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: on their motorcycles and then al Pacino got dropped off 204 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: his trailer. Al Pacino's trailer was was catty corner from 205 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: my trailer, and I went over there. I actually went 206 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: over there and tried to meet him. Yeah, And the 207 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: p A was like, how did it go? Not well? 208 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Did not go well? It didn't go well. She looked 209 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: at me like, get out of here, you jerk. What 210 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: are you doing. You're not gonna meet him. He's in 211 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: his trail to go away, and I'm like, come on, 212 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: I just I just want to I just want to, like, 213 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta meet the guy. You're like, but 214 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: that's but that's my trailer, Like I said, I'm not 215 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: some crazy guy on the lot. I'm just you know, 216 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: that's my trail over there. I'm doing a TV series. 217 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: I just want to meet the guy. She goes, if 218 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: you don't get out of here, I want to call 219 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: security to get out. Oh man, it's so funny. He's 220 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: he's such a he's such a lovely man, this warm guy. 221 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: I did. I did a bunch of table reads on 222 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: this script that he really wanted to do about Salvador 223 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: Dolly and I remember I did one and it was 224 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: it was out and uh Kelsey Grammer and um Rita 225 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Wilson and a handful assemble. Blair was there and say, 226 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: handful of actors and we just kind of read the 227 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: script and workshop dude, and you know, he just kind 228 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: of do that. Then you forget about it, and then 229 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: like a month later the like, hey my, look al 230 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: wants you to do it again, and I go okay, 231 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: And then like two months later, hey my, I wants 232 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: to bring you in to do this again. I'm like, wait, 233 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: why is Al calling me? And really that's crazy, But 234 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: just like he's just one of those guys that dies 235 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: completely into his his r and his work. I remember, 236 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: like I got tried to do his house to watch 237 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: solomn A. He'd he done a recorded version, a filmed 238 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: version of a stage play starring Jessica chas Stain before 239 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: she became Jessica chaff Stain, And I remember I remember 240 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: everybody just like whoa, who is this this girl? Who's 241 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: this woman? She is amazing? And it was just but 242 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: also at the same time, you know, like kind of 243 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: as a fanboy, you're sitting I'm like, I'm sitting at 244 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: al paciano his house watching something that he filmed, and 245 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: he's asking me my opinion. Wow, this is this is crazy. 246 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Remember the motorcyclists to have with the with advance and 247 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: heine short shots. It was really loud. Yeah. I pull 248 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: up to a little theater parking lot to turn around 249 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: in West Hollywood, and I almost ran over. Albacino wanted 250 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: that parking lot. Was there a p a to tell 251 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: you not to tell no? No? He was by himself. 252 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: He was getting out of his his suv and he 253 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: was going into the theater. You know that little old 254 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: globe theater they have in West Hollywood. Yeah, he was 255 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: there and I roar up and I and he and 256 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: he and he gives me this like whoa, whoa because 257 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: it was really loud. And I came in and I 258 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: didn't see him, and I didn't. It's not I didn't really, 259 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: But that's when I got to meet him. And I 260 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: got off my motorcycle and I said, you have no 261 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: idea how much I wanted to meet you. You were 262 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: over at the Warner Brothers lot and I was filming 263 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: a show and I just wanted to say you were 264 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: one of my big inspirations. And he was really cool 265 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: with me. He was just like, oh my god, he goes, 266 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: he goes your motorcycles really loud. I said, well, that's 267 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: to keep me alive, you know. So yeah, I know 268 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: for for how for how grand he is, for how 269 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: grand his performances are. Yeah, he's an artist, just like 270 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: you or I. Yeah he is. He really truly is, 271 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: and and he champions actors. He really, he really does. 272 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: It's a pretty wonderful thing. It's it's good good reminder 273 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: for being on the other end of things, when there 274 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: is that younger actor or someone who's maybe not quite 275 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: in a position you're in, like to notice the talent, 276 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: to champion the talent, to give them real, honest ideas 277 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: so that they can grow in their careers. I could 278 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: talk to you all day. Um oh, dude, all day, Scott. 279 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of fan questions. I have to ask 280 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: you a couple of fan questions. Okay, yeah, no, man, 281 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: go for Okay, So all right, let's see Jessica. Maybe 282 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: it's Jessica Jesstain wants to know Jessica from she's from Portland, 283 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: wants to know looking back, what do you think about 284 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Jesse and Rory's relationship. It's been a while since I've 285 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: thought about Jesse and Rory's relationship. I know people always 286 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: ask me questions about it, but I think you know 287 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: it's things are complicated when you're young. I think we 288 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: can all understand this. I think we can all appreciate it. 289 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're going through the developmental change. You 290 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: are seeing things in the world that you've never seen before. 291 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: You're experiencing things like from from the heart, from the 292 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: from the gut, from the head that you're experiencing for 293 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: the first time, you know. So I think jessin Rory, 294 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: I think they were what they needed at the moment 295 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: from each other. And at the same time, you know, 296 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: it didn't work out. They went in different directions, and 297 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: that's okay too, that's kind of great. Um. But I 298 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: think what I did always appreciate about the two of 299 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: them was, you know, they outside of what anybody wanted 300 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: to put onto those two, they they kind of made 301 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: their own world. And I think that's pretty cool. I 302 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: think when there's always going to be outside influence and 303 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: tell you how to behave, what to read, what to do, 304 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: what to look for, what are the pitfalls, what are 305 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: the glories? Hey, this is what I did when I 306 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: was your age. But really that's just people giving you 307 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: their version of what they think your life should be. 308 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: So I think Jesse and Rory like really kind of 309 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: found their own world and created their own world, and 310 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: it lasted beyond just them romantically as teenagers to where 311 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: they had an actual friendship as they became young adults. 312 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: Would you do it again if they wanted to do 313 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: some more episodes? I mean, the thing the thing is, 314 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: this is, like I can't ever get away from it, 315 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's for me knowing that like you 316 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: and Lauren and Alexis and probably just about everybody else 317 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: in the show would show up, and on top of 318 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: it would probably be Dan and Amy they're writing their 319 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: asses off. It's like, yeah, why wouldn't I, um, if 320 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: it would feel like it's there for the right reason 321 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: versus the wrong reason, like and we all know those 322 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: wrong reasons where shows think that the show is bigger 323 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: than the characters, so they'll try and bring it back 324 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: just to get more money. And it's like, yeah, but 325 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: are you are there really more stories to tell? That's 326 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: that's where I always kind of go back to the 327 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: nostalgia of the past of stories that we were a 328 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: part of. Is are there still more stories to tell? 329 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: Have these characters grown to a point where we actually 330 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: really want to see more of them, We want to 331 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: understand where they've been, We're going to discover something new. 332 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: So I think if they did want to bring it back, 333 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: and if it was it was Amy and Damn at 334 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: the Helm and you guys are all showing up, I'd 335 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: be a jerk to not show up. Um that you 336 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: just made a lot of people very happy. Not that 337 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: not that you don't anyway, but when they hear that, 338 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be very happy. No, I'm listen every everybody, 339 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: you know. The way that I look at it was 340 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: the uh, the four films that were put together after 341 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: the fact, that felt like the extra slice of cake, 342 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: after you've already had cake, you had that favorite meal, 343 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: you had the cake, and then you've got something even 344 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: extra like I don't know if they would bring it 345 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: back or in the form that maybe people would want, 346 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: because I'm also big on Hey, we're artists and we're actors, 347 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: and we evolve and we grow, and yes, we played 348 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: these parts and they may be iconic and they may 349 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: be evergreen, but at the same time, it's like, you know, 350 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: I look forward to playing a lot of different men 351 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: over the course of my career. Let's talk about the 352 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: sledgehammers scene. My my absolute favorite just there you get 353 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: a room. Yeah, you know, because of the fact that 354 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: I was talking so much, and it was just nice 355 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 1: to do an action. It was nice to do some 356 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: physical acting some and just a clever little quick scene. Ah. 357 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: And the pressure was on and we had already we'd 358 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: already proven that we can operate well under pressure with 359 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: the lake Thingum, what do you think of that scene? Oh? Man, again, 360 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: that was years ago, but I do remember. I remember, Yeah, 361 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: there was a whole whole bunch of gaff and gauwe 362 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: going on beforehand that ultimately, you know, the came to 363 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: the moment where you start hitting the wall and I 364 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: think just just kind of not really understand what's going on. 365 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: And then and you go there you got your room. 366 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: I think that was the line there. It's like, there 367 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: you have your room space or whatever. And yeah, I mean, 368 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we had we had a lot of work. 369 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: I have to go back and watch two seasons from 370 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: twenty years ago to like re the truly understand. You know, 371 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I just saw the scene because I hadn't seen a 372 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: year in the life. I went to the premiere. You didn't. 373 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: You weren't there, which was a great disappointment. Um, but 374 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were busy and you were filming something. Um. 375 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: But the premiere was this overwhelming fans celebration. So many 376 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: people showed up in Westwood. It was it was craziness. 377 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: But I want you know, they played Winter there and 378 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: I thought, boy, this is really well done. Uh. They 379 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: they felt like little rom coms. They felt like really 380 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: high quality, uh independent films. Um. It didn't seem like 381 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: television anymore. It seemed like it had graduated into something, 382 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: you know, it morphed into sort of the film world. 383 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: Um Um. But I I didn't watch the other three episodes. 384 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: I just don't like I don't like watching myself. I 385 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: don't you know. I spent so much time with the 386 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: show that I didn't watch it. And then I finally 387 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: saw the scene with the flower and you and me 388 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: and Laurela had gone to California to do her wilding, 389 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: and I was so touched by that scene. I was 390 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: so moved by that scene because your character had come 391 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: full circle and now you were the one taking care 392 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: of me and it, and I actually teared up a 393 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: little bit because I missed you so much and I 394 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: know you're such a good guy, and and what a 395 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: perfect moment that was for me. And in all of 396 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: the those four episodes, that was my favorite moment. That 397 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: scene was my favorite moment. Um. Anyway, that's well, I'll 398 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: say about that. Let's get into your podcast. You have 399 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: a podcast. You're doing a podcast with Stephen King. Tell 400 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: us a little bit about that. Um, I mean, I 401 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: got approached, just like an acting job. You know, I 402 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts, have been a podcast, and I'm in 403 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: the process of putting up a couple of my own 404 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: in the scripted world, which hopefully I can talk about soon. 405 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: But this, I just I got approached. And you know, 406 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I've always grown up with Stephen King novels, and once 407 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of bravery and read some 408 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: and and understand the writing and find my favorites and 409 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: all of that, I just I was a fan like 410 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: anybody else. So when the opportunity came up to be 411 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: a part of this, I was familiar with the short story, 412 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: but I hadn't read it. I know it was only 413 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: eleven pages. But what I did read were the first 414 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: three episodes that were written by Lee Metzger, and I 415 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: just thought, this writing is phenomenal. A one thousand percent 416 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: captures the essence of a Stephen King's story, and I'd 417 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: like to do it. So, you know, just like a 418 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: normal job, you line up to meet people, although you're 419 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: not going in for fittings, you're not going in for 420 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: hair and makeup tests. You're just they're understanding what you're 421 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: gonna do with your voice and how it's going to go. So, 422 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: and these murders happen in one section of time, and 423 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: then we jump forward and they're happening again. So you 424 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: start to understand there's a serial killer, and there is 425 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: an investigative journalist that starts at the school paper but 426 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: also kind of graduates beyond that who's investigating these and 427 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: that's played by Garrett Headlind, This guy that works the 428 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: newspaper played by Sydney Sweeney, and I play Um, Garrett's 429 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: friend who's also a radio DJ at the time, and 430 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: we're all just trying to make sense and understand what 431 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: these killings are about and who's doing it and trying 432 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: to like just really figure it out. And in true 433 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: Stephen King fashion, it's it's darkness, it's scary and it's 434 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: real and you kind of are haunted by it and 435 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: you know you're you're really thinking about those things that 436 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: kind of lurk under the bed or outside your window 437 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: at night. Fantastic. Yeah, it's fantastic. What an interesting project. Yeah, 438 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: Stephen King all about Yeah, he's all about you know 439 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Vermont, you know the woods, Ye, all that yeah, 440 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: fog fog rolling in every years. You know. My god. Uh, 441 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: that's great. So that's so those you're making those episodes 442 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: now and they're they're download loadable now, they're already they're 443 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: already made, they're already made. It took me not a 444 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: lot of time to shoot all eight of my episodes. Um. Yeah, 445 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: they're out on our Heart Radio Spotify podcast. New episodes 446 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: come out every Wednesday. So I think there's three episodes 447 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: now we've got five more on top of that. And um, 448 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean it's the story really builds. I 449 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: think it's great. I mean, you know, as a kid, 450 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: I used to listen to these these radio plays when 451 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: I go on road trips to my dad, Like I said, 452 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: and it's just, uh, this is exactly that, this is 453 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: exactly that. All right. I hadn't I wasn't even aware 454 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: of that. And then yeah, producers told me that you 455 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: had a a podcast. I was fascinating. Um, here's a question, 456 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: here's another fan question. Yeah. Um, you've played a couple 457 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: of different iconic roles, uh in your career so far 458 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: many more to come. Who do you think is what 459 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: do you think Jack Pearson versus Jess who did you 460 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: have more fun playing or are you enjoying Jack Pearson 461 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: as much as you played Jess. I enjoyed Jack Pierson 462 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: as much as I enjoyed playing Jess. I mean, if 463 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, for for me and I know we've talked 464 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: about this in terms of like acting and whatnot, but 465 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: I really put myself into a character holy like you know, 466 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: w h O L like just the whole thing. Um. 467 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: I immersed myself in it, uh to the point where 468 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: I can take that character off like a costume and 469 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: lead them on set and step away and just be myself. 470 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: Or when cut is called, I get to step away 471 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: and be myself. So when I was twenty four and 472 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: I was playing Jess, I was completely invested. As I'm 473 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: in my forties now playing Jack, I'm completely invested in 474 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: Jack and six years deep. The nice thing about a 475 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: guy like Jack and what I was able to experience 476 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: with Jess as well, was knowing these men so deeply 477 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: and so intimately that I was acting on instinct. All 478 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: I had to do was truly learned my lines, show up, 479 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: look my co star in the eye. And then there's 480 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: the character, you know, I mean, Harry, and the makeup, 481 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: the wardrobe you know, of course kind of like puts 482 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: you into that that mode of the character. But it's 483 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: all acting on instinct. So I I enjoy it. I 484 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: really do. Um. I'm sure you know these aren't the 485 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: two defining characters all have, just like Peter PETRELLI wasn't. 486 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: In addition, But I mean, you know, there's there's a 487 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: lot of men complex and incredibly simple that I would 488 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: love to play that I'd love to kind of tell 489 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: the stories of who aren't that? Who do you want 490 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: to play? Who are you really itching to play? I mean, 491 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: I tell you what. Last year I was lined up 492 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: to play Evil kin Evil. Yeah, we got we got 493 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: shut down. I mean I was fully transformed over um 494 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: at some point. I'll show you the photos, the portraits 495 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: we took because whoa. People people thought they were like, oh, yeah, 496 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna look just like him, Like, no, that's me, 497 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: that's not him, that's me, that's not him. Um. I'd 498 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: like to get back to that project and people that 499 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: was you know, he's he's an icon and he's an 500 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: American legend. Um. He was also uh not an amazing 501 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: husband and not an amazing father in ways and really 502 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: had uh a tough outlook on the people that were 503 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: supporting him, and that he just didn't treat well. So 504 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: he was a complex character, very complex man that I 505 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: would like to get back to that and the stories 506 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: we we had lined up in the six episodes we 507 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: were going to do. I mean, we're Wow, what a journey. 508 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with him. I grew up 509 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: with that guy. Um, I mean he was part of 510 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: the entertainment of my youth. Yeah. It seems like every 511 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: month or every couple of months, Evil Kinevel was going 512 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: to set another record jumping his motorcycle over you know, 513 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: now thirty busses or forty busses or something in the 514 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: Houston Astrodome or wherever. And he always fell, and he 515 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: always broke dozens of bones in his legs, his hips, 516 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: his I mean, he was always in surgery. He was 517 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: always but you know what he always did, and what 518 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: the biggest message was, what you get back up. You 519 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: get back up no matter what you're gonna fall, but 520 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: you're always going to get back up. And I think 521 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: that was what people identified with. Yes, people people would 522 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: watch him to see the crash, but also that triumphant 523 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 1: get back up even in the most pain Like when 524 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: he crashed it whimbly, I think he was he'd made 525 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: an announcement saying, this is the last time I'm never 526 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: going to jump. I mean that dude was really broken 527 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: once that happened, really broken. But he had to as 528 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: a point, get up and walk out of that stadium, 529 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: even though he had help, but he had to do it. 530 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: He could not do it. It was a big inspiration 531 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: to kids. You know, it's a big message of his 532 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he did a lot of other badge, 533 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: but he got back up. It just it was staggering 534 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: to watch a man put himself through that. Yeah, you're 535 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: a little kid watching this guy, and they're showing it 536 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: in slow motion. The thing I remember most about Evil 537 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: Kin Evil is his attempt to jump the Grand Canyon 538 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: in that rocket car and then the slow motion replays 539 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: on ABC's Wide World of Sports of him crashing and 540 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the and his bones but you could see his bones 541 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: breaking on on the on the concrete. When I mean, 542 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: it was just like, why is this guy doing so 543 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: that contract is still still has life. You can go back. 544 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna go back and do that. Yeah, we're we're 545 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: trying to figure that out. I mean, you know, we 546 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: got shut down because of covid Um, where the whole 547 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: world just stopped, and then ultimately I personally ran out 548 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: of time to be able to go film that because 549 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: it was six episodes, it was a pretty big, ambitious project, 550 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: and we were also producing it, so you know, we 551 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: knew that we we could step away from it and 552 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: hopefully go back to US. I think right now there's 553 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 1: conversations about bringing that back next spring once I wrapped 554 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: This is Us, you know, go blond again, put my 555 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: fake hairy chest on and and get back into the 556 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: white leathers. Um. But yeah, I'm sure. I mean, you know, 557 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: we spend six years on the show too. You know, 558 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: you know this, It's like when it's done, you're kind 559 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: of ready to take a break, but you're also peaked 560 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: to know what else is out there? You know, what 561 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: are the opportunities can can can I jump on? What 562 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: are the characters can I play? Because as an artist, 563 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, I always want to challenge myself and I 564 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: want to grow when I want to play things that 565 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: aren't the same as what I've been doing, Like you know, 566 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't need to play another Jack Pearson father, 567 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: even though people see me in that light right now, 568 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: because we'll I've done it for six years. Maybe I 569 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: need to do something different, like evil and Evil was 570 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: the complete opposite, because they're going to come after you 571 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: for every Jack Pearson role. Yeah, of course they're gonna 572 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: want you to play that for the rest of your life. Yeah. Sure, 573 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: And I could probably make a nice, nice living in 574 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: a nice career that. But also it's like I wouldn't 575 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: be satisfied for me. I'd rather just you know, I 576 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: don't know, learn how to go like shaping knives in 577 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: Japan for the rest of my life. Okay, So I 578 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: don't know exactly. I mean, yeah, uh, keep learning, keep changing. Yeah, absolutely. 579 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: Why do you think here's another fan question. This is 580 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: from Maggie from Oh Moosehead Lake. Why do you think 581 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: Gilmore is so special and has stood the test of time. 582 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of wish fulfillment, and I 583 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: think it's got a magical quality quality to it. At 584 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: the same time, I think it shows on an emotional 585 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: level experiences that we all go through. As simple as that, 586 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's wish film and everybody wants 587 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: to live in a small town with the gazebo. That's 588 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: the wish part. The emotional side, we all experienced, you know, love, 589 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: we all experienced heartbreak, we all experience coming across some 590 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: zany characters in our in our worlds. Um. But at 591 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: the same time, all we're looking for is companionship and 592 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: happiness and love and and hopefully support. I think that's 593 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: a big thing. And you know, I think I think 594 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: Gilmore had a lot of that, had a lot of 595 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: supportful like not supporting, but there was there were a 596 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of characters that were, yes, let's say, supporting others 597 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: in an emotional way. A lot of love, a lot 598 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: of love. There a lot of love. Okay, here we 599 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: have Jennifer from Dallas. What was your favorite Okay, here's 600 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: a Jess question. What was your favorite part of Jess 601 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: and what was your least favorite part of Jess? Um. 602 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: I think they might have been one of the same 603 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: as confidence, because I think he had a lot of confidence, 604 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: and he also had a lot of insecurities and he 605 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: kind of had to find his way back to that center, 606 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: back to that middle, and it made him complex, it 607 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: made him have to discover the sides of his existence. 608 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: That were constantly battling inside of him, you know, the 609 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: exposure to the vulnerability, but yet the bravado of no 610 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: I know exactly the answer to these twenty questions because 611 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a kid genius and I root um. 612 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: You know, those are my favorite sides of Jess. I 613 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: just I really like that, and I liked when he 614 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: would allow that vulnerability to happen and he was rewarded 615 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: for it, you know, kind of like those breakthrough moments 616 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: with Luke, the breakthrough moments with his father, that we 617 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: only got a glimpse of those breakthrough moments with Rory, 618 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: that we that we understood we're happening. I think those 619 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: moments were wonderful because it happens in life. We all 620 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: do that. We put ourselves out there. We may speak honestly, 621 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: but yet with the idea that maybe somebody's not going 622 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: to respond. Well, but the fear is just us projecting 623 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: what could what we think may happen, versus having a 624 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: good honest conversation, and that just usually comes up being 625 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: an adult. M hm. You know, well, I don't think 626 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: they could have picked a better actor to play Jess. 627 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they could have picked the better actor 628 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: to play Jack Pearson. Um. I think when you have 629 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: the experience of working with Milo, and I'm talking to 630 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: my audience directly, it's it's working at an in an 631 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: elevated place. UM, when you would come on the set 632 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: and we would do our work. UM, there was something 633 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: very very calming, um, working with you, about working with you. Uh. 634 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: And I miss it, and I miss you, and I 635 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: love you, brother, and I'm so happy for all of 636 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: your success and please continued success. I think you're I 637 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: think I think you're just scratching the surface of where 638 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: you're going to go in this business. I hope, I hope. So, 639 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if I'm discratching there, just hopefully 640 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: can just create other opportunities where guys like us can 641 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: get back on a set, you know, because I feel 642 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: exactly the same way. I love the experience. Whenever I 643 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: think about it, I was going back to like immediately 644 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: standing outside of the diner, middle of the night, workshopping lines, 645 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, how you remember long passage? 646 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: Ago enough, Scott, how do you remember long passage? And 647 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: you go, you say the sentence, but then you tack 648 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: on the first word of the next sentence and then 649 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: you just string them all together. I never, I never, 650 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: I never never thought about that. Okay, dude, we we 651 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: would just work. I forgot about work and work, but 652 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: it but it was it was always exciting and it 653 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: was always fun, and it was like I was gonna 654 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: be this is gonna be good, this is gonna be 655 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: a good five takes. Let's do it, yeah for you, 656 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: because we'd have to do that many times for sure, 657 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: Um yeah a lot. All right, buddy, you have to 658 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: please come back. We have so many things we can 659 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: talk about other than Gilmore girls, and I know, I 660 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: know I could. I could be uh andy to your 661 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: conan go vow all the best, um and thanks for 662 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you for your time, gentlemen. Love you buddy, 663 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: my lo vent Amelia. Have a great day. We'll talk 664 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: to somebody man, okay man, Thanks God right bye, Hey everybody, 665 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 1: and don't forget follow us on Instagram at I Am 666 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: All In podcast and email us at Gilmore at I 667 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: heart radio dot com. Oh you get more fans. If 668 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: you're looking for the best cup of coffee in the world, 669 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: go to my website for my company scott ep dot com. 670 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: S C O. T. T. Y P dot com, scott 671 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: ep dot com Grade one Specialty coffee. Yeah.