1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janvick, Taylor and Michael Cousin and I'm 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: on radio podcast. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Happy Monday. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: Bo. Yeah, so I learned something new about Mike and 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: sure we were on We were in New York last 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: week and Mike leaned over to me and he goes, 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 3: are you guys. 8 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 4: There, Mark, Yes, yes, we're here, of course. 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: Are you ready for this? So he leans over and 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: he's just like, you know what just drives me crazy? 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, what, what was it? I don't 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: remember the Southwest? Oh yeah, I don't know why. It's 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: just when people that are maybe not foreign and live 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: in America and get onto a Southwest airplane or are 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: boarding a Southwest airplane and they ask a million questions 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: because they don't understand how to. 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: A situation on Southwest? What's that because you don't have 18 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: an assigned seat? Is that the issue? 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 5: Yeah? 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people it just blows people's minds. I'm a 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: granted we travel so much, I mean, but it made 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: me think. I'm like, when when was the first time 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: I took a Southwest flight? Like my first experience? I 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: don't remember. 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: I think I was super young when I took my 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: first one. 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: But how long has Southwest been doing that. 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: That's actually a really good question. I don't know. I'm 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: going to look that up. How long is Southwest? Mark? 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta see how long I can take 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: care of that. 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, But you know a great thing about Southwest if 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: I may, because I know some people are a little 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: bit honked off yourself, like, yeah, they don't charge bag. 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: Fees, yeah, and for change fees for Southwest. 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: I understand it. 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: But I'm baffled by that because at this point, if 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: they didn't know, what would get mad at them. 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: But they don't, and I love that. 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: You'll see they opened in nineteen seventy one, But when 41 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: did they start doing the seat yourself thing? 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: I think it's always been seeing yourself? Maybe really I 43 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: don't I think so, but I mean, obviously I don't 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: remember remember. But it's funny though, because Mike said that 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: if it was an American he gets angry at But 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: then he said that he saw these like two Chinese 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: people not knowing where to sit, and he's like, oh, well. 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Just someone who's foreign who doesn't maybe isn't from America 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: and it's new to them. I empathize with that, but 50 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: someone who I guess and it's just wrong for me 51 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: to assume that everybody flies all the time and should 52 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: understand it. It's not just asking one question. It's just 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: I experienced these these group are like three people the 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: other day when we're flying back from New York that 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: just asks like ten questions and just couldn't wrap their 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: heads around it. And I just wanted to be like, 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: just get on the plane, set where you want. Yeah. 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what questions two through ten would be, 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: because the first question would be so I can sit 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: wherever I want? 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 3: Yes, right, It's just funny what you get because like 62 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: you can be very it's just funny what you get 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 3: upset about. Like I think stupid people that are stupid 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: you don't like, Like I think stupidity really bothers you, 65 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: because I know you get a little bit more annoyed 66 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: with me when I say things that are wrong or 67 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: I say the wrong grammar, and so I think you 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: it's just it's just funny because I think I think 69 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: it's just stupid people you don't like. But then who 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: on the flip side, though, you'll do some stupid things 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: and never but it's like you don't see that. But 72 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: it's like you know what I mean, it's just about 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: seeing other people. 74 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: It's all about my perspective. How is it view the world? 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: If you don't view it my way, then it's oh, 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: I'm kidding now, it's just one of those things. 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: I have an interesting topic. Well, I don't even know 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: if actually I can talk about it. Why if you knew, Well, 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: because I don't know who listens to the podcast, Like 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: if it was someone that listens, and I don't want 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: to be offensive. 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: I think you have to go for it now. Now, yeah, 83 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: just genericize it. 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: Okay. Let's say there's someone in the neighborhood that has 85 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: a problem child and they were kind of known from 86 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: the last neighborhood for example, like lighting things on fire, 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: vandalizing I mean to the point of like really gross 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: stuff that would you know it is throwing rocks and 89 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: then also I mean bullying kids, inappropriately touching younger children. 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: And then you find out they moved to your neighborhood. 91 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: What do you think, Because Michael and I've had this 92 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: conversation now because now we're on more of a high alert. 93 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: If that's some uncertain person moved into our neighborhood and 94 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: it's do you make you or are you nice? Or 95 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how to because I'm now 96 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: a little bit scared because of the things that I've 97 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: heard that are not great? Or do you petition to 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: kick them out of the neighborhood? But can you even 99 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: you can't do that. 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: No, you can't do that. You can't they we don't 101 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: have the power to. 102 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 3: I would never want a kid, but I'm just like, what, 103 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: what do you like? Do you talk to the kid 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: that's in high school? And I empathize and I want 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: to be there, but also the things that I've heard 106 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: is scary. They basically we were warned stay away, So 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: it's do we make ourselves? Does he? 108 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 5: You know? 109 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: Mike was like, do I talk to him? And but 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, but I don't want him to get scared 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: and then do something to the house or or bully. 112 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: You know, our kids are young. 113 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: But it's just something to be aware of. 114 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: I think, you know, I feel like you were going 115 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: to say something to the mom, which I was like, 116 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: I don't think you should say. I don't know. 117 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: It's one of those I want to where my heart is. 118 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: I want to kind of treat it as innocent until 119 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: proven guilty, but the. 120 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: Cops have already been over there. They were already in. 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: He was already in like one of the other houses. 122 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: Right. 123 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: I understand that I met he seems so nice, but 124 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: when I I mean, my text for my friend was 125 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: stay away. He is bad news. He's the kid that 126 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: would potentially go into a school and do some bad 127 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: stuff and that terrifies me for you know, other people, 128 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: especially the other kids in the neighborhood. But I don't 129 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 3: want to be that person either. I would love to 130 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: be able to help, but then you also hear the 131 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: stories when you help, they are also the ones that 132 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: hurt you too. 133 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: So but no, it's just one of those things that you, 134 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, you want to have a we have a 135 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: good heart about, but at the same time, ultimately you 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: have to protect your family and your kids. So it's 137 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: it's being able to be empathetic and helpful but also 138 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: keep our kids away. I think that's where we have 139 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 2: to stand with it. Yeah, we can be opened open 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: to it, but are not with our kids involved. 141 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: You know, my problem is my I play too much 142 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: scary movies in my head. 143 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: You did, I mean, you definitely go like worst case scenario. 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: I yeah, because our house is kind of like a 145 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: fish bowl. We don't have really many shades. So when 146 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: it's nighttime and he's gone, it's just you know that 147 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: movie Strangers where I feel like I'm just gonna look 148 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: to the to the all the open windows in the 149 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: house and just see these faces appear. 150 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: Oh gosh. And that's why we're having an alarm and 151 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: guns in the house. 152 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: And I know, but maybe shades. Maybe before you get 153 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: the alarm of the guns, get some shit. 154 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: I ask for shades, but Mike says it's going to 155 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: ruin the aesthetic of the house. 156 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: I put my foot down on that one. 157 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: I'm just like, give me some shades. 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So we're 212 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: all a part of a princess fairy tale. We'll say that. 213 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: Would you like to guess? 214 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: I would like to guess because one year right after Brooklyn, 215 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: when my youngest was born, my daughter, my oldest was 216 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: snow white, and I was Prince Charming and my wife 217 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: was Doc and the little one was the tiny little 218 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: dwarf was a baby, was dopey and it was the cutest. 219 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to send you that picture today because you 220 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: will know he's beautiful. Yeah, I'm going to send you that. 221 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: So I'm going to guess. Let me think you said 222 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: princess fairy tale? 223 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: Is that what you said? 224 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: Yes? 225 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: Of course. Are you gonna tell me if I get 226 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: it right? 227 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: Or no? Sure? 228 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, think about this. 229 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: You get one guess though, since you're doing that one guess, 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: you get one guess because you know, if not, you'll 231 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: keep going. And then if we told you that, we're 232 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: going to tell you. 233 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 4: That way right, Two boys and two girls? What? Oh? Yeah, okay, 234 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 4: I got it, I got it. 235 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's what I'm saying. Okay, Elsa vir Janna Anna 236 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: for Jolee. Mike's gonna be uh what's his name? The 237 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: guy with the donkey. 238 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: Spen Christoph, Christoph. Yeah, you're gonna be Christoph and then Olaf. 239 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 4: That's the family right there. 240 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: Well you know what, I guess you don't follow us 241 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: on Instagram because Mike was a seven foot ole off 242 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: two years ago. 243 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: Sorry we were yeah, we were frozen two years ago. 244 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: I ordered this off costume. 245 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: By the way, you still have it because I want 246 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: you to surprise the kids. 247 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: No, I wish. 248 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: Remember we left in La John. 249 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: Walked into Jolie's classroom. That would have been so good. 250 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll reorder it. Anyways, Mark, I found this 251 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: costume from straight up from China, got it two years ago, 252 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: sent to our house in La It was a legit, legit. 253 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean the head was like three feet high itself 254 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: and I'm six foot five, so I was literally nine 255 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,599 Speaker 2: feet tall. Huge round costume, legs, slippers, everything. We go 256 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 2: to Luca Lake to trick or treat, which you know 257 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: it's crazy. 258 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 4: Place to go. Oh oh yeah, they're showing me a picture. Now, wow, 259 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 4: you are tall. 260 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: And the best part about it, Mark, walking through to 261 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: Luca Lake, I mean you would have thought I was 262 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: paid to be there. Everyone wanted a picture with me. 263 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 2: It was a it was a meet and Greek was 264 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: a celebrity. 265 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: He was I mean everyone was high fiving him, and 266 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: it was it was that will go down. 267 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to beat that. 268 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 3: It is real hard to beat that. But now I 269 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 3: love that. 270 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: I know. Do you still have it? 271 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: No, it's literally it's humongous. So we threw it away 272 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: in LA because we already did it. 273 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: You can't even have shades. I could you have a 274 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: giant Olaf costume of that house? 275 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: Right? 276 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's too big. 277 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: But it's gonna be fun though. Oh it'll be Jason's 278 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: first Halloween. He's gonna be so cute. Oh, he's the 279 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: best friend. He's almost walking. Hey Easton, what's up with 280 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: the crocs? 281 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: Uh? 282 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 6: What's what's up with the crocs? 283 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 284 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 6: Well it's c October. 285 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: Is that a thing? Or is that a thing that 286 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: you made up? 287 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: It's a thing. 288 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 6: It's it's it's a thing that croc Crocs made it up. 289 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 6: But I'm celebrating it in a. 290 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: Really big way. Do you have Crocs on? 291 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 6: I don't have crocs on at the moment because I'm 292 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 6: at work and I'm a professional and Crocs. 293 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: Are a leisure shoe I was wearing. 294 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 6: I've been wearing them a lot this month, though. 295 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: Well, I saw you hiking with them, and I was like, 296 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if you should be hiking with Crocs 297 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: on I mean, I love Crocs. Jolie calls them her 298 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: alligator shoes, but I mean, you've really every time I've 299 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 3: watched your stories this week or this month, it's been 300 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: c October. 301 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've a you know, I was gonna do every 302 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 6: night of the month. I was going to profile a 303 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 6: different pair of Crocks for my collection, but I only 304 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 6: have three. I ran out of ideas after day three. 305 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 6: But I you know, I took it as a creative 306 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 6: challenge and I've just been doing original Croc content every 307 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 6: single day of the month. 308 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: That's huge. 309 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: Any fine heard from Crocs? 310 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 5: Oh? 311 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been messing with CROs. I've been trying to 312 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 6: get Crocs. I don't want like money or anything. I 313 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 6: just want them to know that I'm a passionate fan 314 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 6: and I have some questions for them. Actually, I've been 315 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 6: trying to get them to interview with me. No no answer, 316 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 6: no answer. And then finally Ben Higgins from the Almost 317 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 6: Famous podcast reposted one of my stories and Crocs came 318 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 6: reaching out. 319 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: Wow huge, your celebrity. 320 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 6: Hey I'm just trying to spread the good word. Crocs 321 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 6: are a comfortable shoe. 322 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: Hey. 323 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: Did anyone read the Kanye West story? By the way? 324 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah? Interesting? 325 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: What are hey, Tory? Do you want to give the 326 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: brief rundown of what the article said? 327 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, So basically it's him kind of saying that he's 328 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 5: redirecting his life. There was a lot in the article 329 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 5: about him like starting a church, doing a faith based 330 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 5: Christian album, but his struggle with sex addiction has been 331 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 5: something he's been dealing with for a really long time, 332 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 5: and so he's been opening up about that and basically, 333 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 5: I don't know, I just I think it's a really 334 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 5: interesting article to hear that Kanye West, and I guess 335 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: that he's kind of opened up about it prior. I 336 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: was looking at some other articles, but it was never 337 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 5: to this extent of him being like, here's where I'm 338 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 5: at and here's where I struggle with and yeah, so 339 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: that's basically kind of a little when you read it too, right, Mite. 340 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, The thing is it's Kanye West. So I feel 341 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: like anything he says kind of has to be taken 342 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: with a grain of salt. Why because he just he 343 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: says outlandish thing and outlandish things, and he just has 344 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: is he still. 345 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: Running for president? Didn't say he was running sween twenty. 346 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: Exactly my point. Okay, So the fact that that even 347 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: came out of his mouth, it's hard to take everything 348 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: he says. And you know, if he claims that he 349 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: suffers from sex addiction, then you. 350 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: Know that may that's such a that's such a big 351 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: thing to just come out and say, right, I mean, 352 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: that would be kind of It's. 353 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: Kind of like when Dax Shepherd said something about that 354 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: and he said, I used to suffer from sex addiction. 355 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: He said that, yeah, well, if you're a sex addict 356 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: use right, I know. 357 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: But and he's even I'm pretty sure he's in a 358 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: twelve step program for drugs or something like that. But 359 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: so it's I don't know. It's just one of those 360 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: things that as someone who's open and out about it, 361 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: it's frustrating at times because I feel like in situations 362 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: like this, it's just it just feels thrown. 363 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: Around almost if they're not making it. Because when you say, 364 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: like I use, when Dak says like I used to 365 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: be a sex addict, that's almost devaluing what the addiction 366 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 3: is from someone who has a big platform to be 367 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: able to talk about addictions. So saying, like I used to, 368 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: that means that you can just get over sex addiction, 369 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: which that's not true. When you're an addict, you're always 370 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: an addict, right, Yeah. 371 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean maybe his not to make this about Dax, 372 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: but maybe his thing was more of something else alcoholic 373 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: drugs or something that was and maybe the sex aspect 374 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: was just a product of that. So I can understand 375 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: maybe someone folks seen more on another addiction if they 376 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: if they qualify for multiple addictions. Okay, so I can 377 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: understand that. Okay, maybe that's what he was saying. Okay, 378 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 2: But for like Kanye West, it's you know, it's just like, yeah, 379 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: I you know, suffer from sex iction two and then 380 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: what he's talking about with just a playborn magazine out 381 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: and and everything, he doesn't really talk anymore about it. 382 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. Again, it's Kanye. It's kind 383 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: of confusing. I'm just afraid of someone just saying it 384 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: just to say it, but not understanding or not living 385 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: in recovery, or just saying that was a part of 386 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: their life at some point, because it doesn't say anything 387 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: that he currently still does, or he goes to meetings 388 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: or anything like that. 389 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: So it's just I don't know, do you think people 390 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: can recover from sex addiction? Like when people say that, so, 391 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 3: I think Jada Pinkett also, I don't want to misquote her. 392 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: I believe she also said too that she had a 393 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: sex addiction. 394 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: She had, I don't. I don't see how it's a 395 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: past tense thing. It's an addiction, just like anything anything else. 396 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: People don't say I was an alcoholic, right. 397 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with you, Yeah, No, So, I 398 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: mean I. 399 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: Think that's just a little frustrating because again of someone 400 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: who's trying to, you know, educate people out there that 401 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: it is a real thing. When it's thrown around like that, 402 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: it just feels like it's undermining it, for sure. 403 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you're right about the doubt, and he might 404 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 3: have realized, Okay, this is where the actual, the stronger 405 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: addiction is, for sure, and that could have maybe played 406 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: a part of it with the sex. But to say 407 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: to say that, especially when sex addiction is still not 408 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: a accepted. 409 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: Super socially accepted, accepted addiction. 410 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard when known or talked about. 411 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: When people are just kind of throw it around, especially 412 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: people in the limelight or whatever it's. It just kind 413 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 2: of gives me a bad taste in my mouth because 414 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not helping the cause, you're not helping anything. 415 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 2: Because then next thing, you know, is it is it 416 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: going to turn into some fad right you know where 417 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 2: just nowadays people are more open or there's more you know, 418 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 2: sexual controversy and headlines a lot with me too stuff 419 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: and abuse and all this, and it's oh, well sex. 420 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: Addiction, And then you can say and then yeah, the 421 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: part is saying like, but I'm not anymore. It's like, no, 422 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 3: you still an addiction is something that you have to 423 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: continue to work on because when you start to become weaky, 424 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: I think that's what scares me. Two when people are like, 425 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: but I'm in control of it now, well you need 426 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: to have those steps right to be able to continue 427 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: to not let it overpower you. 428 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what that's my belief. If someone 429 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 2: else believes that there's a cure to addiction, then okay, fine, 430 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: but there isn't anybody that in any kind of twelve 431 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: step program out there is going to say that anything 432 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: else works other than twelve steps. No, one else, No 433 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: one in twelve Steps thinks say anything. 434 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: And you're not more powerful. You're not more powerful than 435 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: the disease or not at all. Yeah, because you may 436 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: feel that you're healthy right now in this moment, but 437 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: come if you don't practice it and practice the twelve steps, 438 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 3: you're going to end up maybe falling back to the 439 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 3: addiction for sure. Yeah. 440 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: And I mean some things may seem simpler than others 441 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: to change about your life. I mean there's some aspects 442 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: of you know, me being the program that are easier 443 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: to handle than they used to be. But that's because 444 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm being you know, deeper and deeper into recovery. But 445 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: it's as we saw with recent events, it's still there's 446 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: still things looming that I have to continue to work 447 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: through and you know, get by. So yeah, just I 448 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: don't know, it's just again it's Kanye West. Who knows 449 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: what he's gonna come out and say next week. You 450 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: know that he wants to be the pope or something. 451 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: So did he ever say anything about the twenty twenty 452 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 3: election that he remember how he's made a whole thing 453 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: about it. 454 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 5: I think he has it a while, you know, he 455 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 5: said on E actually on the E article that he 456 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 5: still has something planned, Like he's still planning his campaign, 457 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 5: is what it said. So I feel like this guy 458 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: has a whole family. He has what four or five kids. Now, 459 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: I don't see him coming out and saying, hey, I'm 460 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 5: a sex addict just to make a point and like 461 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 5: be Kanye West. I think that's him kind of being like, 462 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 5: here's where I was and now he's like starting a church. 463 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: He obviously it sounds like he found he has a 464 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 5: relationship with God now that has like really changed his life. 465 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: And I just feel like. 466 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: Why are we Why are we trying to judge the 467 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 5: way he's telling his story, Like it may not be 468 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 5: on a podcast, it may not be in a sit 469 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 5: down interview, but to him, this is him expressing something 470 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 5: because he has like kids. 471 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: Again, you know, he's not going. 472 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 5: To just see somebody says a sex addict or is 473 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 5: he says on a sex addiction from age till now 474 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 5: having to kick the habit. It just presents itself in 475 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 5: the open like it's okay, and I stand up. 476 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: For it, and you know it says he's more addicted 477 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: to inspiration as much as he is. 478 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: In this set, I could have been like he. 479 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 5: Says he's addicted to porn and that could have been 480 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: something that inspired his music and now he wants to 481 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 5: change that direction. 482 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know what I mean, How I 483 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: don't know. 484 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: I'll at you because you're in a great point, toy, 485 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: and I totally understand that. Again, unfortunately, because it's Kanye West, 486 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: and because he's had periods of just outlandish comments and 487 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: everything where it's until there's consistency, it's hard for me 488 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 2: personally to believe what he's saying or that. 489 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: If I think what you're saying too is because of 490 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 3: the sex addiction not being a very socially accepted addiction 491 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: yet that it's just like, oh I was one and 492 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 3: maybe I'm not now, which is not the true sex addiction. 493 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: That's not right. 494 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, that's fine if he's if he's saying he's 495 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: changing his ways and all that, because he is a 496 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 2: family man and he's a man of God and all that. 497 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 2: I'm not questioning that. Just don't just don't throw something 498 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: on top of it, and obviously it impacts me more personally. 499 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: Don't throw something like an addiction on top of it. 500 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: If you're not gonna take it seriously. And you're just 501 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: gonna kind of throw it, oh yeah and just shake 502 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 2: my life and uh yeah, sex addiction. But it was 503 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: my inspiration. Like you said, why, it's like, wait what, 504 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: Hey're just going to go right over that. 505 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: Every time he talks, I say, wait what, so exactly exactly. 506 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 507 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: I'm kind of I think it was pretty cool for 508 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 5: him to open up with it being the Kardashians, because 509 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 5: I think that's a very interesting dynamic to have your 510 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 5: wife be kind of a sex symbol and then have 511 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 5: him open them up on that. 512 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 3: I think it's a very interesting dynamic. Yeah, I'm just 513 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 3: more curious to understand the what he meant by either 514 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: he was or he is, because I think that's that's 515 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: the big difference. And that's where I would have more 516 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: of an opinion too, because I do know that, like 517 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: you have to be in the program and working it 518 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: so to maybe hear more on that. But again, it's 519 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: his how he shares it. And yeah, let's try to 520 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: get him on book. Sure, Yeah, we're got that. 521 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: We'll have a talk with tell shre heally we need 522 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: to hold off. We we're gonna get Kanye West said, all. 523 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: Right, well let's take a quick break and do some emails. Yes, 524 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: do all right, Mark, We have any emails. 525 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: Got some good ones this week. This is from V. 526 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: She's wondering if she's a bad person, and he hears why. 527 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: I'm separated and single and I've been seeing someone on 528 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: and off since my separation. 529 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: We've been intimate. 530 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm starting to grow feelings for him, but he's technically 531 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: my husband's cousin by marriage, not a blood relative, and 532 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: my husband's cousin by marriage. I feel like I'm doing 533 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: something wrong by seeing him, But at the same time, 534 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: I like spending time, and the time we do spend 535 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: together is wonderful. We get along great. I'm smiling the 536 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: entire time I'm with him. Am I horrible for continuing 537 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: to see him? The chemistry's there. I don't want to stop, 538 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: but maybe I should stop now before it gets even 539 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: more serious. 540 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 4: Or maybe I just see where things. 541 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 3: Go wait time out. Is she married still or that's 542 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: her separation. 543 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: She's not divorced, are they? 544 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: They're separate, but they're getting divorced. 545 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: She did not say that necessarily. 546 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 3: In my opinion, this might be the the not the 547 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: popular opinion. I think you should wait until you get divorced, 548 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: especially since it's a family person. But I think you 549 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: like who you like and if the. 550 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 4: End day, of course it's okay to date your ex 551 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 4: husband's cousin. 552 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's okay. I'm saying I think it's 553 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: okay to like who you like and your feelings. You know, 554 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: that's just like I mean, look at Shanaia Twain is 555 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 3: married to her best friend's husband and they swapped basically husbands. 556 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: When you're so close with and I'm sure there's so 557 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 3: many times when someone has fallen in love with their brother, 558 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 3: their their husband's brother because you're so close with them, 559 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: you know them, you get them, you have this connection. 560 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: But because it is family, that could get really bad. 561 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't think she's a bad person. I think that's 562 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: normal to have feelings because you're so close with these people, 563 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: especially with women, because they have that emotion, they're more 564 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: emotionally connected to people. So I just think that maybe 565 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: you should should hold off until you guys get divorced 566 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 3: and then have a conversation, but don't do it in secret, 567 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 3: in secrecy, because that'll then drive more of a wedge 568 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: in the family. That's my unpopular position. 569 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Who I'm trying to I'm trying to do the family 570 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: tree here. A cousin for a cousin by marriage, So 571 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: let's talk that out. 572 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 4: Hmmm. That's a good point. 573 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: Because I would think the way I would the way 574 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: it sounds to me, is that it would be Okay, 575 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: it's his cousin's husband or something. Right, So right if 576 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: unless he's married and having an affair with with her, 577 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: the one who emailed us, how else would it be 578 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: his cousin by marriage? 579 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: It could be his cousin by marriage. 580 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: See what I mean. 581 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: It's confusing, and there's such a thing as. 582 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: You know it would be. 583 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: It would be like if if my cousin Eric, it 584 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: would be his cousin through marriage. 585 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: Be Jessica, Right, That's what I'm saying. 586 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: So like you dating Jessica. 587 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: But but Jessica is married to Eric. That's how she's 588 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: a cousin. 589 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: Maybe they're separated and get a divorce, might see my 590 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: point here, But we don't know that backstory that's true. 591 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: Can you mean us again next week? 592 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, we might need some more information on this, but 593 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: also more information. I mean, the heart wants what it 594 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: wants is a very convenient excuse the people for really 595 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: horrible decisions, right. 596 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 6: But. 597 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: Yes, and it's also the heart is something you should 598 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: always listen to. 599 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: But you know, there's so many questions you can go 600 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: so deep with this is okay? Is the attraction to 601 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: the cousin by marriage? Is that maybe part of what 602 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: causes separation without the husband knowing, you know what I mean? 603 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: Like why are they separated? Are they in agreement that 604 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: why they're separated that they can see other people? Are 605 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: they living under the same roof? Like, there's a lot 606 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: of questions to know. 607 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: How close is your husband with this cousin by marriage, 608 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: because some cousins are like brother and sister and some 609 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: like I have cousins, I wouldn't know if they walk 610 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: past me on the street. 611 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: Oh see my first cousins there, they're like my brother 612 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: and sister. 613 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: Same. Yeah, we're very close first cousins. We both grew 614 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: up the same way, where like our first cousins were 615 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: like our siblings. 616 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the street. 617 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So there's just a lot of questions here 618 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: on what to know. I think ultimately, again it's it 619 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: depends on if you handle this situation with integrity, then 620 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be that bad. So again, if 621 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: her and the current separated husband under agreement of what 622 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: they can do, what the boundaries are right now while 623 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: they're separated, if when they do get divorced, she doesn't 624 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: be sneaky about it, and she explains that this is 625 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: the person that she's seen. 626 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: So I think it's also a female thing too. And 627 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: we always said this in our relationship. If I was 628 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: ever too cheat, it'd be some close to us, right, 629 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: because I'm just that emotional that I'm more of an 630 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: emotional cheater, if that makes sense. 631 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: I think that is more of a woman thing and guys, 632 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: at least from me maybe, but for me personally, that 633 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: would make me uncomfortable if it was somebody that we knew. 634 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: Mark, all right, this is from Callen. I'm super close. 635 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: This is actually actually flows nicely from that one. I'm 636 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: super close with my parents, my brother, my extended family, cousins, aunts, 637 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: and uncles. My fiance is from a broken family and 638 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: only talks to them a few times a month. I 639 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: talk with my family multiple times a day. We've been 640 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: living together for four years. I moved across the country 641 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: with him, and now we're engaged. He still he still 642 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: feels like he's second to my family. I want him 643 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: to feel like he's my priority. 644 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: He is. 645 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely in love with him, but I don't want 646 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: to change the relationship with my family to prove it. 647 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: I don't think she has to. 648 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: She shouldn't. 649 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: No, No, just include him. So if you're having family 650 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: this is something that I'll say, you know, if they're 651 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: having family group messages, just include him in the text message, 652 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: include him in the family messages. And I think that 653 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 3: could help him feel a part of things. I know 654 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: it always a part of things when i'm when you know, 655 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: your mom includes me in the messages, and probably vice versa. 656 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: We don't really do group messages on my side, but 657 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 3: you know, I think that would help maybe that situation. 658 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: But I don't think she should ever stop. 659 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: No and just to and just I can understand his 660 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: insecurity because he doesn't have that relationship, so. 661 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: It's probably more to interface. 662 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: It's foreign. It's foreign to him. So if she just 663 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: continues to include him, like janas saying, then also reassure him, hey, 664 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 2: you are my family, You are a part of this family, 665 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: like this is you know, everybody loves you too, or 666 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 2: just something to kind of make him feel better or 667 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: more comfortable around. 668 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: It, but also to have empathy for what he doesn't. 669 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: He didn't doesn't and didn't have too, so to be like, 670 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: you know that must because I think that's more self 671 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: reflection on his part, while he's maybe projecting it is because. 672 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: He didn't have because he's insecure about it. He didn't 673 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: have it. That's and yeah, and for he should definitely 674 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 2: try to embrace it and maybe change his mindset. Because 675 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: for me, I know, just even from dating people, you know, 676 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: as a young adult or younger person, I always knew 677 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: I wanted my future wife to have like an awesome family. 678 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: So I wanted great in laws. I wanted I love 679 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: spending time with my significant other. And so like Mary 680 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: and Janna, I like hit a home run with that 681 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: because I love her family. I love the things we 682 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: all do together. We have so much fun, and like that. 683 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: I've always wanted that. That's something that's always been important 684 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: I valued. So I mean that's something he should definitely 685 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: try to embrace, like you're saying, Mark, and just like 686 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: enjoy that. 687 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: So if my family sucked you and married. 688 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: Me, no, I'm not saying that. It was just definitely 689 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: something that was important to me that I wanted to 690 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: be able to have in laws, not just in laws, 691 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: but in law family. Yeah, a fun family that enjoyed things, 692 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: and I mean, we have so much fun every time 693 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: we get together. 694 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 695 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: I have one more, really juicy one about infertility. But 696 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: before we do that, tell me about no because I'm 697 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: excited to have them on the podcast. Some are calling 698 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: at the Amazon prime of high end jewelry. 699 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: Oh well, I would love to tell you about Noemi. 700 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: So shopping for fine jewelry can be more than a 701 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: little bit overwhelming. 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We've been 744 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: trying to get prgened for a year and a half. 745 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: After the year mark, I'm thirty one, we went to 746 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: a fertility specialist. He had a semen analysis and I 747 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: had an HSG and several other tests. The results came 748 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: back that I'm good. His overall sperm count is good, 749 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: but the viable sperm are very low. So we've started 750 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: talking about artificial insemination, but he doesn't want to go 751 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: that way. Every cycle we get another negative test and 752 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: we're both devastated and he feels like it's his fault. 753 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: I do my best not to blame him, but the 754 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: clock is ticking and he's still not coming around. To insemination. 755 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: I met a lost. I met a loss. There's nothing 756 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: in this world that I want more than to be 757 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: a mom. And adding to it, we're getting immense pressure 758 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: from his mother to have kids. She's very negative to 759 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: him and nasty to me about it. 760 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 3: Oh well, that's awful that the in laws are pressuring, 761 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: especially when it's already such a stressful situation to begin with. 762 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unfair, Michael. 763 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: Let you speak on this because I know that you 764 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: had a tough time with all of this. 765 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: I mean I personally didn't have a tough time. 766 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: You did with the playing like God and stuff like that. 767 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well yeah, but that's also because my account 768 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: was fine, so there wasn't an issue there. But I 769 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: can I definitely empathize with him because you know, when 770 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: it comes to pregnancy and stuff, essentially we have one job, 771 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: right and from a scientist scientific point of view, we 772 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: have one job, and when we aren't able to do 773 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: that job, if we aren't able to do that job, 774 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: I can imagine that feeling really degrading as a man, 775 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: being like, man, this is the one thing I have 776 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: to do to give you a child, and I can't 777 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 2: do that. So if he's able to look at it 778 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: from a different mindset and just be like, you know what, 779 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: this is just a different way I can give my 780 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: wife the gift of of a child. I would do 781 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: whatever it took. Ultimately, Sure it weigh on me a 782 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 2: little bit, but just changing my mindset and being like, well, 783 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 2: this is what I have to do. I want a 784 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 2: family with you, you want to be pregnant, you want a child. 785 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 2: Let's do this. However we have to do it. Granted 786 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: we had option to do artificial insemination when we did IVF. 787 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: That was a little different. 788 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 4: That's more. 789 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: Is that what they're talking about doing or is it 790 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: just like turkey based? 791 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: I think both. 792 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: So what I didn't like about the IVF thing is 793 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: when they took one individual sperm and injected in the egg. 794 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: I liked it where they basically put a syringeful's sperm 795 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: in the petri dish with the egg against like let 796 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: the best man win. I didn't like selecting one sperm. 797 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 2: That's when I felt like it was playing god because 798 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: the sperm that was supposed to go maybe wasn't that one. 799 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: But with if it's just still you can still artificially 800 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 2: inseeminate by not doing that. So I don't think that's 801 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 2: necessarily necessary an issue with playing god. I think you 802 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 2: got to do what you gotta do to get pregnant. 803 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: And if they've tried this much and they felt that devastation, 804 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: then it's like, hey, this is what I have to do. 805 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: Mm hm, I agree. 806 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: So, but it's right, he's going to feel like a failure. 807 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: I think that's what he's going through, is the feeling 808 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: like a failure. And if you do the art insemination, 809 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: you've given up, like it's like so many people surrendering. 810 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: So many people have to though, and so hopefully he 811 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: can get past that to know that it's not just 812 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 3: him that deals with this. 813 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: Well, everyone's going to know. If you guys have a 814 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: baby together, you don't have to announce in the birth 815 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: announcement that she was done via artificial insemination. No one 816 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: has to know that except you and. 817 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 3: Your wife, right, And I bet the statistics are a 818 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,479 Speaker 3: lot higher now too with people that have to do that. Sure, 819 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 3: Oh definitely, it's not like it's probably close to fifty, 820 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: I would think. 821 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: And I think what he needs to also maybe to 822 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: help his mindset is to realize, well, like for me, 823 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: I would rather it be me than Jana because the 824 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: women feel so much pressure, right, because that's literally like 825 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: what women maybe think they were put on this earth 826 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 2: to do was to bear a child. Right, So I 827 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: can't imagine the height and emotions that a woman may 828 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: feel if they're not able to be fertile and have kids. 829 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: So as a man, it's like, I'll I'll take that 830 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 2: burden for you. If it was on me, cool, great, 831 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: I'll do whatever I have to do to give you 832 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: a child. Because I don't. I wouldn't want Janet to 833 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: feel that. So for him, he should be like, you 834 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 2: know what, better me than you. I got you money, 835 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: whatever we have to do, I got you. I'm just 836 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 2: glad it's not you. You don't have to deal with this. 837 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: Let me take this burden and let me give your 838 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: child in any way that I can. So if he 839 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 2: can change his mindset like that and just just still 840 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 2: be able to show it for her, I think he 841 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: would have a much better time mentally and emotionally processing it. 842 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I was super off on the percentage. It's 843 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 3: only two percent, but still I think that's still two percent. 844 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 4: Is artificial insamdation. 845 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: The and the centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports 846 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,959 Speaker 3: about four million births per year in the US, meaning 847 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 3: one to two percent of all US berths are in nually, 848 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 3: are or are via IVF. 849 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 4: Really wow, that seems very. 850 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 3: Shockingly low in my opinion. 851 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, but there's also like three hundred and fifty 852 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: million people in this country. So think about the two 853 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 2: percent of that, and then it takes us back to 854 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 2: the other one. There's three hundred and fifty million people 855 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 2: in this country. Maybe you don't have to date your 856 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: husband's cousin wait to bring you back. There is love. 857 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: Love is love. Oh what a good note. I love 858 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 3: you guys. Happy Halloween. 859 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: Be safe out there.