WEBVTT - The G Code Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>They had a big indictment against a Hazard gang out

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<v Speaker 1>there in East l A where they fire bombed a

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<v Speaker 1>black family that was living in the projects in a

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<v Speaker 1>predominantly Latino area where Big Hazard was at and and

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<v Speaker 1>the Feds indicted them and they all were found guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all convicted for a hate crime. See here's my question, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if if a Mexican shoots a black and some gang

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<v Speaker 1>gang conflict, if the Feds want to, they can charge

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<v Speaker 1>them with a hate crime, even though it's not about

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<v Speaker 1>racial hate, it's about this is I want this block.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to make the money on

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<v Speaker 1>this block. But the Feds in Washington, d C. Are

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<v Speaker 1>looking at what's going on in l A and are

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<v Speaker 1>slapping hate crimes on some of the Mexican gangs. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to giving more time instead of slapping

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<v Speaker 1>them on the risk. But they guess how many times

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<v Speaker 1>a black gang has been charged with a hate crime

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<v Speaker 1>from Washington d C. In l A County. It's never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never happened. But you had the Avenues hate crime,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Hazard hate crime, uh tune in fourth Street down

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<v Speaker 1>in Hawthorne. Well, you know a lot of people on Torrance.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people tell me the tune in the

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth Street neighborhood. They were racist over there in Torrance

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<v Speaker 1>de Lamo area. Um, I've actually had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people tell me, now, these Mexicans are different kind of Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 1>These Mexicans were pushing a race line against the blacks

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<v Speaker 1>that lived in that area and there was no black

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<v Speaker 1>gang over there. Yeah, they to me like that. Over then,

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<v Speaker 1>uh remember by Manchester part they after changed, they were

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<v Speaker 1>just shooting blacks on the site. Well they shooting these

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to shoot these Coast Cripts. Well they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like them for show. Yeah, over some drug deal went bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they got them for woo woo, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ship in and I mean, but what you expect. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a good example because the East Coast Cripts

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<v Speaker 1>are getting shot up by the F third teens over

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<v Speaker 1>a drug. They took some dope. They basically stole a

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<v Speaker 1>truckload of dope from the F third teams. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is either ninety nine or two thousands, and the

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<v Speaker 1>F third teams have been hating the East Coast Cripts

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<v Speaker 1>ever since. Now they used to get alone. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they all went to elementary Junior High. But here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that the Swans also share a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>area that F third Team has. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the Swans and the FIR teams have no problems. So

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<v Speaker 1>they don't like they don't like them dudes. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think if they don't like East Coast cripts, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>other cripts that they don't know, they don't drip. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't like seven six, that's East Coast. They don't like

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<v Speaker 1>eight nine, seven six, the six pack, eleven eight one nine, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these coastes. They don't like them. And and

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<v Speaker 1>they take that beach to the penitentiary. If you get up,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd beep goes straight to the penicentary. They don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast cript. Well, the dude from the Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>Mafia is the one that got that hit on um

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<v Speaker 1>Costallane know from F third team has been locked up

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<v Speaker 1>ever since nineteen eighty or eighty one, and he's the

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<v Speaker 1>shot caller for a third team. Mess with a black

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever? Do it deal with one they get killed

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<v Speaker 1>and they see you're talking in there, they make they

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<v Speaker 1>green like you to do to do Now, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>any rich philanthropists out there that wants to do some

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<v Speaker 1>good in Los Angeles community and help bring two neighbors together.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay the debt that the East Coast Cripts owe to

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<v Speaker 1>the f third teams, and you will save a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of lives. That's real talk right there. The East Coast

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<v Speaker 1>Cripts ain't never gonna pay that debt. You ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>never stop that. If you know, if I call up Mr. Costallano,

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<v Speaker 1>who's serving life in the penitentiary, and say, look, what

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<v Speaker 1>can I do to get y'all to stop shooting the

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<v Speaker 1>East Coast is what's he gonna say? Pay us what

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<v Speaker 1>they owe us. And if there's a philanthropist out there

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<v Speaker 1>that wants to pay the hundreds of thousands, if not

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<v Speaker 1>a million, I don't know how much money the dope

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<v Speaker 1>is worth. But if somebody out there wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>some good, because that is the largest Black brown conflict

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles, right You got a lot of blood

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<v Speaker 1>shit and the East Coast is are huge. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of bloodshed. And well, if it's only

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousand dollars they paid advocates that no, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that. I don't know how much dope was in

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<v Speaker 1>that truck. I'm saying, like, let's say it was thirty birds,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fifty birds, a hundred birds. That's still not

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<v Speaker 1>a million, isn't it's a hundred birds of million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to figure? Thirty thousand, thirty thousand. Uh, say it was

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred birds, So that's what how much? How much?

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<v Speaker 1>How much with a hundred birds cost? How much? Thirty thousand?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do the math right now. So let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say it's a hundred birds. Back then a little more

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<v Speaker 1>and that's three million dollars right there. That's three million

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a hundred birds. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it was about? How much you think was in that

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<v Speaker 1>van that they took. I don't know. I know they

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<v Speaker 1>got them good. But what I'm saying this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you gotta remember all the lives that the

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<v Speaker 1>middle lost. That's what That's what like I told you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened with it, but on both sides. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happened with the truths. Well, that's why it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work because they started realizing, hey, I don't over

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<v Speaker 1>here party with James, and James is the one that

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<v Speaker 1>killed my brother. Alcohol got in no brother that they

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<v Speaker 1>started realizing that's James, that's the one that killed little one,

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<v Speaker 1>little John man truths over exactly Well, I mean every

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's got losses on both sides. But do Mexicans look

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<v Speaker 1>at it like this? They so organized. Man, they probably said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the principle. Now it's not about the money no more.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the principle. It's how y'all did that, how we

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<v Speaker 1>had a connect and and and this is how y'all

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<v Speaker 1>got damn, basically saying fuck us. This is how either

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<v Speaker 1>side would think if that side got got Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're thinking in eligently, whether you're on the f

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<v Speaker 1>third team side of the East Coast crypt side, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to reduce the amount of murders because it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of making money or whatever way you're

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<v Speaker 1>making money in the war can go on in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of l A. That ship is going out of town.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever they're doing and how they made their money goes elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>That little grumb ship they're doing on the colers that

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<v Speaker 1>that's they're doing. That's personal ship. But you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come in here and do me the way you did me.

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<v Speaker 1>Take our ship and then clown about it. The war zone,

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<v Speaker 1>the war zone, and that's any side. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 1>America dropped two bombs on Japan, killed a two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people, and you're telling me that we can't get

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<v Speaker 1>the f third teams in the East Coast crypt together

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<v Speaker 1>over maybe twenty murders, maybe thirty murders. No, it's not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I would if this was nice, made a decision to

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<v Speaker 1>end the war. Ain't. No, none of the kids have

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<v Speaker 1>died about a one. But how does the country we started?

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<v Speaker 1>We started a war with what? Uh? We didn't start

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<v Speaker 1>Bush Junior started a war with with Iraq just because

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<v Speaker 1>that man made a threat to his daddy. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why that war, and that's why that second one war

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<v Speaker 1>I read, war started and he wasn't gonna stop. He lied,

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<v Speaker 1>he had Colonel Paul go in live. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>power life to present that case, so he can start

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<v Speaker 1>that war. And I'm just saying, when you have personal

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<v Speaker 1>fillers involved versus and you gotta put the pass in

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<v Speaker 1>the pass and move forward. We look at it like

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<v Speaker 1>that and then it's easier to do it individually, but

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<v Speaker 1>as a gang, as a structure. I got life in

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<v Speaker 1>prison this is this is this is where I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be for the rest of my life. This is what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take care of me for the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what's gonna keep me alive for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. All these things you think about being imprisoned.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would I sit here and make my people

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm weak by saying, Okay, funk that war, let

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<v Speaker 1>it go, ceasefire is over and done. When we ain't

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<v Speaker 1>set down in the cryption, they the people that they had,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't got, no moved, So you're not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>one of these little they tried and going here and

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you try. No one worked on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about doing the truths and and doing that

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<v Speaker 1>that was they really tried, the bloods and cryps. What

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<v Speaker 1>was out there hanging party. Yeah, I'm just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying they tried to stop the things. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>how personal feeling have ended in l A. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>the Venice Shoreline crypts and to vat thirteens. They seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>murders in a two year period. That beef is over

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<v Speaker 1>for something smaller than it wasn't the principle, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was seventeen murders in eighteen months. That's a lot of murders.

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<v Speaker 1>How how long this war been over. It's been over

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<v Speaker 1>since ninety four. It lasted from ninety ninety three to

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety four seventeen homicides. Veni Showlines was fighting something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a major connect over there. That's where they're all eating. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that it's it's possible. It's a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing that it happened. Anything is prossible. And the Rolling

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<v Speaker 1>forties crips and the Rolling thirties Cripts had a tenure

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<v Speaker 1>war from from ninety six to two thousand six. That's over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, um totally different. I know, every conflict is

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<v Speaker 1>different when you get in the head. This would be

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<v Speaker 1>the hardest conflict to resolve. This is the biggest one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not Maybe if the head boss the mafia's dying

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<v Speaker 1>in prison and they get some new leaders in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say they want to squash this and and and

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<v Speaker 1>work different, then you got a chance. But not right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because they live in off principle man and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how they stay strong. I mean, it's all about money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all about money. They want their money but you

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<v Speaker 1>can't look it's hard for a dude in prison and

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<v Speaker 1>really put a lot of value on money too. Though no,

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<v Speaker 1>these dudes actually have bank accounts. I mean they want

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of that people, but to put value

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, these guys will make more money if this

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<v Speaker 1>conflict is over. This conflict will create more economic opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>for both sides, whether you serve and dope or trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be a Rapper's just everyone. It's a win win

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. What the Mesicans did, they went into dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with those cats. They start putting their nieces and sisters

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<v Speaker 1>into um not not only police academy, but they're selling

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<v Speaker 1>houses and ship, they nurses. They're doing all of that now.

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<v Speaker 1>So they invest in their money in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>They got businesses, They invest in their money. Their money

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<v Speaker 1>ain't just stacking up, so they don't need us to

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of that ship no more. They got different connects.

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<v Speaker 1>They went all the way around, and that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the smartest things they ever did. Exactly they went

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<v Speaker 1>all the way around. When they say, okay, Alonzo, you

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<v Speaker 1>and your son, you're gonna be good people. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get any trouble. You're gonna we're gonna make sure y'all. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>well you're gonna be policeman's now I'll go. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be bringing these drugs into the l A County

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<v Speaker 1>jail for us and into the prison system. And they

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<v Speaker 1>and they're taking care of them. They take that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Now. Your your sister gonna be a cop,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be. And this is what's going on now.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of them nursous real estate. They

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<v Speaker 1>were they were smart. How do you think they're buying

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<v Speaker 1>and shelling them houses like that? They took them a

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<v Speaker 1>while to get politically connected, but they started. They starting,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's how they was able to go around. And

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need y'all for ship. We need this here.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are never forget this. I'm telling you man,

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<v Speaker 1>they man, and and everything they did, everything they did,

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<v Speaker 1>it's worked every sense, every sense. Chuse back then if

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<v Speaker 1>you can, if you can, remember, you didn't see them

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<v Speaker 1>letting their their mama's push them cards for the cans

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<v Speaker 1>and ship. They will get robbed. Back in the seventies

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<v Speaker 1>early eighties, they was getting robbed. You didn't see pops

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<v Speaker 1>walking to the store they they're able to move freely

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<v Speaker 1>now because they are't dealing with the bullshit, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So it's totally different the robberies on

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<v Speaker 1>on all that ship is totally all that ship. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>win down, don't changed. Well, if there's any philanthropists out

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<v Speaker 1>there that wants to do some good, hit me up

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<v Speaker 1>because I have a passion with bringing neighborhoods together and

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<v Speaker 1>it would be amazing if there was a way we

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<v Speaker 1>can end this conflict between the East Coast Crips and

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<v Speaker 1>the Floodencia. After that, say gang, but I do know

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<v Speaker 1>that it's gonna take money. But all right, let's move

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<v Speaker 1>on to the to our next topic. This also comes

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<v Speaker 1>from another person online. This was a really interesting question.

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<v Speaker 1>How do gang members deal with having relationships with people

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<v Speaker 1>from rival gangs? And let me say, like, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>a blood might be dating a crip, or two cousins

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<v Speaker 1>might be from the opposite side. They might be from

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<v Speaker 1>rival neighborhoods. Or a girl that's a blood her father

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<v Speaker 1>is a crip. You know, there's all these bizarre types

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<v Speaker 1>of relationships where people are from the opposite side. James,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you got some first hand experience with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Give us an example of south side one from Hohover

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<v Speaker 1>one out here in the I E. But but going

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<v Speaker 1>my first mother, I've been. I was with her seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five to seventy nine. We had a child. Um going

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<v Speaker 1>over the house she lived in a hundred and eighteenth

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<v Speaker 1>in San Pedro, and going over there to her house,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was crips on that yeah, Lemonades Coast

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<v Speaker 1>going on that. I mean, I'm on that block. Now

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<v Speaker 1>back then, I'm catching the bus red chuck, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>white tennant shoes, red shoes, strange walking up the block

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<v Speaker 1>of Blood and by her being cool with them, some

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<v Speaker 1>of them catching like okay, who whoa you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Damn, But I got my card riding over there,

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<v Speaker 1>spending the night kicking and with her doing my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically you're talking about getting a pass exactly, explaining

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<v Speaker 1>to people listening getting the passage. So I'm cool, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pass because I was cool with John. Me and

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<v Speaker 1>John is together. John is cool with those cats in

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood. But she was from Hoover, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So they was all good. Like my sister's

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriends were crips, and they used to come to the

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<v Speaker 1>hood and not telling homies as my sisters. Boyfriend lead

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<v Speaker 1>these cats along. You couldn't touch him cow Bold Markets

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<v Speaker 1>and all of those cats from nine A Mafia. These

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<v Speaker 1>was my dogs still right now today. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, y'all couldn't mess with him. So man just

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<v Speaker 1>going over and dealing. And me and my homeboy Master Run.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to go over here on Link Street in

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<v Speaker 1>Maine and all of the hoovers was over there, but

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<v Speaker 1>all my my baby mama, we'll kicking over there. So

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<v Speaker 1>I interact with the hoovers. I interact with the East

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<v Speaker 1>Coast never tripped who was never tripped? Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>guys are my dogs, like right now today, Uh my

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<v Speaker 1>boy Duck shout out to Doug, he from five nine

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<v Speaker 1>He from Hoover. I got a lot of people I

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<v Speaker 1>work with. It's through my baby mama's you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, All them through my baby mama. And it

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<v Speaker 1>worked that way. How many baby mamas you got? Alright?

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<v Speaker 1>Got three? Okay? And what happened is you you you

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<v Speaker 1>meet some of these guys and then you you've been

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<v Speaker 1>a lost matriens with him. Y'all come cool, y'all former

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<v Speaker 1>bond get out. We're still cool. Do you go to prison,

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<v Speaker 1>get out? You cool? My cousins or crypts. So I

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<v Speaker 1>go to thehood, you gotta pass because your cousins ship

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So it's everybody know everybody. Now. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask Reggie, do you ever use these people that

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<v Speaker 1>can bounce back and forth between hoods that see eyes

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<v Speaker 1>to get information or gang intelligence when he was an officer. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I never got in the law enforcement that deep where

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<v Speaker 1>that was my father and Brennan and lad and all

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<v Speaker 1>of them that work they got to see eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Pretty much all of my stuff was

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<v Speaker 1>done spontaneous on the street. Um, but I was fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>I was young. I was a young officer when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a copy and I was a lot dinner and

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I was making money and all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was really messing with all of these

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<v Speaker 1>nigga's uh girlfriends or systems. Was single, and I was

0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.000
<v Speaker 1>dating women that were dating gang members. Also, they generally

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<v Speaker 1>had to stop or didn't want to because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the girls. They generally didn't want to be dating.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, they of the guys, Well, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the appeal is is for some girls to date

0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:38.159
<v Speaker 1>gang members that aren't in the game, that aren't well

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<v Speaker 1>someone were Generally they didn't like to because they became

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<v Speaker 1>that that term hood rat. People don't know what a

0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.840
<v Speaker 1>hood rat really means. A hood wrat is really a

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<v Speaker 1>chick the dating a dude that's from their hood. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she got a date at least more, at least a couple,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not if you just got one. What they

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<v Speaker 1>dated that one? Everybody didn't want to mess with them

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<v Speaker 1>no more. You know what I'm saying, They did want

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<v Speaker 1>or that dude always like nobody wants to mess with

0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:10.360
<v Speaker 1>James grow because James. That's what And that's my point

0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.199
<v Speaker 1>about that. So that's why the girls usually had a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that. But I mean we took it to

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<v Speaker 1>about females and stuff like that, but I know the

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<v Speaker 1>question was really about, uh, this dude, this was cool

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<v Speaker 1>with it And to be honest with what what what

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<v Speaker 1>taught us to be cool? Not us? I keep saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know, I keep using the word else.

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<v Speaker 1>But what my experience, my experience was, what was I'm like, quick,

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<v Speaker 1>no I'm not, but uh, what what what generally was

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<v Speaker 1>was um kinda made me forget my trainer thought talking

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to hear about you dating girls that

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<v Speaker 1>dated gang. I mean I was on a dated a

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<v Speaker 1>girl in every hood that I used to go over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, sleep over there later night. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no problems with that. But my point wasn't I married

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<v Speaker 1>my wife, her brother Tony Guillory from uh uh neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh compt and curls my wife. Yeah, that's my wife. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and him was cool to this day. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it was coming to jail um then every every day

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in the jail. But I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I was young into into the law enforce.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't retire early, the fans would be watching

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<v Speaker 1>your every step because they'd be saying, man, this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>got a I was fratenization and God forbid when I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start working with death Row. That el Ready

0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.439
<v Speaker 1>club incident, what happened. I probably would have still there there,

0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>but that's when my chief pulled me in. After that

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<v Speaker 1>Already club incident, it was like, your ass better get

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<v Speaker 1>out here. I'm gonna fire your ass. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because we left the scene when when that incident happened,

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to go ahead and left my way

0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>reality there. But my point was the drug game. The

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 1>drug games forgot bloods and crips will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with each other because you leave the crypts, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, before the ages. We're all going back todays.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about nineties and stuthing like that. This was

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<v Speaker 1>going on before cocaine or anything. Game and his mother

0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 1>going to blood getting passes because you talk, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>women they're going across. But they wasn't game. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't as many hoods and niggas didn't have as many

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<v Speaker 1>beasts as they did. You get beating all that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that you might killed, you get a whip.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't as tough as as it became in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>And niggas coming around with eight cas and stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>the game brought the niggas guns and was able to

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<v Speaker 1>get the eight k's and riding around and getting mobile

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. Because you gotta remember the game

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.760
<v Speaker 1>members was young. How James you're talking about Ryan bicycles

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. He didn't do that late at night.

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.640
<v Speaker 1>But niggas grew up in the games and they got

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<v Speaker 1>older and older. That's why we don't know. People be like,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you fifty year old and still claiming? We

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<v Speaker 1>don't know because we got that mini fifty sixty year

0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:12.959
<v Speaker 1>old game. We don't have them because they all growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, growing up with this, and so we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know when it's gonna stop. When do you

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<v Speaker 1>grow up? You know as some would say when people

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<v Speaker 1>say when did you stop claiming? And you know James

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four now and he you know, he still will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you I'm from or he still known as mob

0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Ja or from the Mob, but he would tell you

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one, you know, I'm not a game member.

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<v Speaker 1>But every boy, we were just looking at a great

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<v Speaker 1>site when you know, from my boy Pierre the funeral

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<v Speaker 1>where all of those niggers we went to school with

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two fifty three all I'm wearing Burgundy still with

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<v Speaker 1>hall a mob or a parrule the blood. They had

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<v Speaker 1>an incident over there after the funeral, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>well I think it's because of alcohol, but I understanding,

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.680
<v Speaker 1>but they all still claiming and these are four year

0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.160
<v Speaker 1>old grow but then I claim as a gang banging

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.360
<v Speaker 1>they claiming as a neighborhood tried neighborhood gang banging man.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be an active game member. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to be out there killing what you what with the

0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>title hold. You gotta be killing the opposition. And these

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't putting in work that you're talking about, Reggie.

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 1>They just they go to the club and something happening.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna they're gonna side with Yeah, they're gonna side

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<v Speaker 1>what they are. Who fights the days in the club,

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you can definitely have a fight. Don't go outside the club.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that park a lot, that's where did you go down?

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<v Speaker 1>But don't want to know, James, did all of these

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<v Speaker 1>did you always get it past or did you have

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>some close calls? I got ship like when I went

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<v Speaker 1>to let's talk about age it because when you're talking,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about the E d s in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you was. That's when you was dating and

0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 1>all of these kids to day, now, can can I

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<v Speaker 1>go to my baby mama house right now today? And

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 1>she lived in the Crib neighborhood? Yeah I can, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, to day my son, can I go to

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 1>my son house? And then the group neighborhood. My cousin's

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.639
<v Speaker 1>ninety eight and figure row that's definite lane. No, that's

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that those sins and who Hoover's over there. But you

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 1>shoes trains on and white tennis shoes on. Call my

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.359
<v Speaker 1>cousin and right now, all of those cats respected us

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and and and they'll tell you from killing Wayne and

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody that I took over there that they number love. Yeah,

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 1>that won the little That's that's my point. That's my point.

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>When does it stop? You still game? And then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not game? Now. I think this question is really important

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of gang conflict actually starts over a girl. Yeah,

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like twenty years thirty year wards, was

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:55.880
<v Speaker 1>over dating a girl because you're dealing with a girl

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that's working with somebody in the hood and then she

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>dating you. But then when you come through, somebody letting

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.159
<v Speaker 1>it be known that you're coming through. You know what

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So you got two cashes, and that don't

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>have to be a blood in the crypt. That could

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>be two crips getting into it over the same chick.

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. But I understand me. It

0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:17.199
<v Speaker 1>grew from back in the days. This is how it

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.880
<v Speaker 1>used to be. Every motherfucking crypt you knew had a

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>damn there had a blood female. You know what I'm saying,

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a date and then brother's friend. And then with that

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>you you grow up buying with the brother. You know

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Because all the cripts that that there

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 1>with my sisters are cool with me. I got a

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>good relationship with him, you know what I'm saying. But

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>why didn't you ever let any of your sisters really

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:44.479
<v Speaker 1>dated any blood because they didn't want. I knew what

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 1>type of niggas my my friends was, so you're not

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna right there have a baby. And then I had

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the kid's knew. But that's why it always went outside

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the hood. Me personally, I never dated nobody in my

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>hood because all my friends out there, my female chicks

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>out with a lot of females and and and cash

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 1>that used to bring them through. The chicks that nobody know.

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Some of them used to get touched. Some of them

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>used to get touched. Now, mind you, my daughter Mama

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>more in the hood, Pam from south Side. Nobody with Pam,

0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 1>none of the home girls, and they knew she was

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>from south Side. Well, I know what the incident though,

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>when NICKI and now went over there, Yeah they went

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to Southside that they they went over there, Yeah probably yeah,

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But so they had incidence. They have incidence. What I'm

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>saying is, I'm just what this say here, man, It's

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>been going on for a long day. Happens because some

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 1>guys got that cool relationship with this dude. It was

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>mainly because they didn't want to date their brother friends.

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Now can can Can I just meet a check to

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>day and she tell me Baby Gangster is her brother

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and come to our house. I want you to have

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>dinner with us. Hell no, I see you somewhere else.

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 1>That's what a smart nig gonna do. You know what

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But you still have that going on right

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 1>now today. And and a lot of people, a lot

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>of bars have grown because you have bloods messing with

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>female cribs. Cribs messing with female bloods. I think you

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>and baby Ganger could sit down and have a meal.

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah now, yeah, so there would be no problem. And

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>he feel the same way. Probably not years ago, that's

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:47.920
<v Speaker 1>absolutely we wouldn't be uh. And And if I sat

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>down and talk to Gagst, I tell gays of one

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>story and he'll remember it like it was yesterday. The

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>beef that we had. It was a straight okay corral incident.

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>And I bet you're here say that was you. I'm saying,

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking and I bet you here remember it. I don't

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have no problems with that, dude. Did you have any

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>girlfriends that were ever from in hood Santana or Atlantic?

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Every female south Side baby mama from your baby mama

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 1>from south Side. I've talked to other females, different females

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>from different hoods, but never to come on. I need

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to come on to the path now where your two

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>other baby mamas from one is south Side, My oldest

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>mama John is from Hoover one o seven and my

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:47.360
<v Speaker 1>other son, my baby boy mama is I'm thinking about.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't never remember you mess with anybody from Luther's

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>mom area. Never never, That's my point. They don't mess

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 1>with But this is my family. Don't lose too many

0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 1>niggs that marry somebody and all of them well they

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>pills and was different. She moved a girl in from

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>spaky old woman, remember that from from shut them off.

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>My whole thing was I was different from everybody. I

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>don't want a chicken the hood. If I did with

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a chicken the hood, I don't bring nothing from the

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>outside to my house because I already know how it's

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. So I didn't miss my business with what pleasure?

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Should I say? So? I never dealt with a female

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>from the MiB All My business was outside of that.

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>When when I left the hood and did my baby

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>mama's are that chick? I did that and left it there.

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>When my baby mama wanted to come to the hood,

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>she kicked it with silver. You none them, Cynthia, none,

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>all of them. She was cool with all of them. Now,

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>your baby, your first baby mama was from south Side,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>from moving from but the one house from south Side?

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Was she living in south Side? When you was dating her?

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>She lived on California Street right now? Still? Yeah? And

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>how how would you move differently when you would go

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>visit her? Or how often would you visit her? I've

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 1>been over there in my Cadillac. I've been over there.

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a seventy seven calac white Rams the whole time.

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>I had a a blue station wagon. I had a

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Burgundy Maximum. They never said ship to me. They never

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>said Keithie d and Paula was living right across the

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 1>street on California, So I never never had to beat

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>for none of them. Paula and and and Pam was

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like this, best friends, best friends, So I never had

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I never had a problem going over there because I

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>was always ready for the timeline on it, on the

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>dates and stuff, because you know, like what year this was,

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I ain't good with. This is your second baby mama

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>from Southside, right, Yeah, what years did you start dating her?

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I started dating Pam and not even two, so this

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>is before all the baby lane and all of that

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff went down. But when you was dating your first

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>baby mama, that was in the seventies. She was from Hoover,

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>but she was living on a hundred eighteenth in Saint

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Pedro in the East Coast. And would you have to

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>be extra careful going over there to the Hoovers. Yeah,

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I never really I never really dealt with the Hoovers

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>hood on Lean Street. I ran into the Hoovers and

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>then on ninty eighth and figure roar over my cousin

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Tony and Tracy. My cousin Tracy, she was a Hoover

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>one on seven and and and even hanging with the

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>who was Marcus and Calvin and Chris uh which is

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>calbo Um. Archie Archie is from live over there by Ninnie,

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember Archie. Okay, Archie still over there. We're hanging with them.

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>We even in My My My Dogs Rest in Peace.

0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Moon from Raymond, Raymond Avenue, crips and Moon and Tracy

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>was my rid of dies. Back in the day. We

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>were stilling cars and doing crazy ship meeting up on

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>nine and bigger role, I can tell you. In the

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>mid eighties, one of the biggest dope dealers from Watts

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>lived in our little right cold street from my grandmother

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>what's little next door to James and now the boy

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>with the gates and all that. Yeah, the biggest, I mean,

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the great, great shot was Great Street. And then so

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>it happened you know where it happens where you know

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't be respecial, start coming you don't. You don't

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>because MC if you ever see him again and talk

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to him, he moved in the hood. But when he

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>moved in the hood, it was said that m C

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>a moving in the hood and he cripping in woolo

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>woo woo. Okay. As soon as he moved in, robbed

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>his name bringing his ship and down. He had a

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>told Chuck if he be honest with the ship, he

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>had a toad, I mean you haul come in. He

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>had you all go out. He didn't stay to stay

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>long at all, and he wouldn't he wouldn't have made it.

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>So he tried to move into my part room. The

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>girls used to good thing and you try to go

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>on your mama tell you too, nigger, this is where

0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>we're going. This is what we're moving on. I don't

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>understand those gangs something with all of that, there would

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>be a lot of that. Now, did you receive any

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>backlash from your homies when they found out you was

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>dating Pam from South Side? Did they say why are

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you doing that? Every last one of them cast loved her.

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I gave a party Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Last

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>one of the hoies, uh embraced Pam as as as

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>one of theirs. They respect of respecting me cool, they

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>gave her respect because when the females are one female

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>in particular guy that Pam on some female. Pam got

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>in that ass, mop that ass up on the car

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and ain't none of him. I ain't working with her.

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>And they left Pam along. Pam got to respect Pam

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>did Pam. So it was it was good like that

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>her people Hawk and you know from south Side come

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>through this your people, there's my people. And I respected

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>them just like that. So you actually had some south

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Side cribs come to your house during events of parties. Yeah, hug,

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>this was her play brother whomever she wanted him to

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>be or whatever. But I embraced him like you know,

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>as if Okay, that's who it is, that's who he is.

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Okay, but you know they

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't coming over there when blues respect, but they were.

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I let everybody know, just whoop

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>the woof from south Side. Nobody fun with him? Oh no,

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>he's good. Let's drink. Like when I went to the

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Hoovers and I'm sitting here kicking it with with my

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>homies from the Hoovers and we're sitting there, they're playing dominoes.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It's the hormeboy with the from my par rules and

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>this is what's going down. Woo woo. And I was cool.

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I should didn't play dominoes. And every now and then

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>then you have some problems and when you have some

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>gunplayer or something like that, and then they go for

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a minute. It's still kind of risky, though, don't you think,

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>because you never know. Even though these these Hoovers are

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>cool with you, or these south Sides are cool with you,

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>there's always another person that presents themselves and that's the

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 1>person you don't know. You've never seen him before, and

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why you never underst made anybody. You're still ready.

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm always packed, and that's why you still be ready.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>If you feel uncomfortable on your surroundings, then you get

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>up and bounce. That don't make you know punk. You

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>get up and bounce, you already know you ain't supposed

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to be here now. And I gotta take the word

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>of this guy. He gotta have some type of credibility

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 1>with the rest of these cats, not the funk with

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 1>this dude. So if he got that reputation, and they

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>already know not to funk with me because they the

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>backlasses right here, he gonna take care of these cats

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>because yeah made me look like a wo woo. Now,

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 1>my nigga, get bank on my watch. Now. I gotta

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>answer to Whoo the whoo whoo whoo and his people.

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Now have you ever known the game member that isolated

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>him and herself so much to where they would say, now,

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going over there, even though I got assisted note,

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I ain't going over there. A lot of them, Yeah,

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, because I mean, you got something

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 1>that just really don't care. You got something that's okay,

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna trust you, and you got something that just

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>really no and really don't give a fun if in

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a boux to show you I ain't I don't know,

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>bit ship, I'm fronna roll with you because I ain't

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.959
<v Speaker 1>scared this road. Some of fuckers ain't built like that.

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 1>So they decline we were moving out. Yeah, well, before

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>we wrap up the show, you guys have announcement to make,

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna turn the mic over the Reggie. Yeah yeah, yeah.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>So we got uh my boy Nick nick Non over

0:35:56.120 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>from the Australia. So you people over there in Australia, morb,

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>James is going to be coming James McDonald, I apologize,

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>James is going to be coming over to uh Australia

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>this summer and um him and Great Katis. They're gonna

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>call it a show called The Night with Great Katis

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and We're gonna have a boy Nick coming promoted and

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and tell ya how y'all can register and sign up

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and coming and and and here Marb and here James talking,

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>tell all these stories. And because you just keep you

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>not that you're doing that shows he did take over today. Huh.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I got you because I gotta be redg every time,

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>because he turned his back on me all the time.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Every time I say something wrong or whatever is either

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>like this or he turned his back and like, why

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 1>do you keep trying your back on me? Why said

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>something wrong? Just tell me that's wrong wrong? Okay, So Nick,

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>you're from Australia. Huh from Australia. Massive death Row records fan.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I love love for Reggie and how do you look

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:06.760
<v Speaker 1>up with these fellows? Well, I mean I've always loved Reggie,

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. He's a straight up cat.

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of his. Always held a dawn

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>with't even always will Mom James. I reached out to

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>last year after the flat TV stuff went off and

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Massy Beak found in Mob James. Mob James and I

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>met last week for the first time face to face,

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 1>and we kicked it for four hours. We ship tiss.

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>He cried like five times, just a table getting drunk.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>As we were know, I was thinking drinking Jack Daniels,

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. I didn't drink overage, dragging water. Let

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 1>me say this, uh, my my history, my life, just

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 1>growing up or whatever. We touched on some of that

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 1>growing up with mom, pops and all of this, and

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't they never been in my shoes like that,

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>never had father that you know, and then just listening

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>to my story and it kind of got touchy. So

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>one thing abottom is that that I appreciated these guys

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>for for calling me. You know what I'm saying, Um,

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad, you know, just reaching out to me and saying, Okay,

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you got a story. I want to hear it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then then wanted me to be a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>project to say, you can bring a lot to the

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<v Speaker 1>story that we're trying to tell. So I welcome all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, you know what I'm saying, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>important for me to tell my story and and to

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<v Speaker 1>have people like this listen. That's why I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>nothing for a long time. I wouldn't even speak on

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<v Speaker 1>the death row and my my brother or anything because

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that I don't want to have to suck

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<v Speaker 1>more for telling me they don't want to hear that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>That ship is old. So just them talking to me

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<v Speaker 1>and listening. And then the feedback I got from from

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<v Speaker 1>my conversations with them was so it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>great and and I've been talking to him every since

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<v Speaker 1>I met him the other day, had a ball. We're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here at this Sierra golf club. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>walked in, I gave him these death Row shirts, two shirts,

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and he just took his shirt off and put on

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<v Speaker 1>this Death Row shirt and he's white. Yeah, people looking like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell this this here? So when I walked in,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt out of place. And then when he changed

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<v Speaker 1>his shirt, I felt like whoa, And they think we're

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<v Speaker 1>game bankers and ship now. But I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let nick, I said, what's going on so we can

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. You have an event that's related

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<v Speaker 1>to former l ap D officer Greg Hating. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Hating and I are doing a project, particularly on

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<v Speaker 1>the murders of Tupac and Notorious blog. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that has been done like too much? Now? What can

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<v Speaker 1>you add different that hasn't already been done. As James

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<v Speaker 1>was saying before, this is gonna be a speaking to

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<v Speaker 1>her where people can actually get up there and have

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<v Speaker 1>their questions. So Greg, Katie's gonna take you right through.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to talk about some stuff that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>released before. He's going to talk about some stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation that's you know, that he hasn't spoke about,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to bring that Wayne. Greg and I

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<v Speaker 1>were having a look at all these different ideas where

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<v Speaker 1>are like, you know what, We're going to get some

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<v Speaker 1>brothers out there. They can give some real life stories

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<v Speaker 1>from death roll records. He was tossing up different ideas

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, bolm, I got the guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I thought mob James after seeing flat TV

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<v Speaker 1>and that. So it goes for about two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half hours. The show, Greg's Gregg's presentation is for two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>But Greg's never done this presentation to a live audience,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So he's never done a

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<v Speaker 1>live audience show. And then obviously at the last part

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<v Speaker 1>of the show, it's a question and answer, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So we can talk to people. People

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<v Speaker 1>in the crowd can ask James their questions about time

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<v Speaker 1>on death Roll records under SUGU night and obviously being

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas when Tupuc was tragically murdered. So how

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<v Speaker 1>did you hook up? Would former LPD officer Greg Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg I reached out to about two thousand and ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was doing some stuff around that around

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<v Speaker 1>about probably two thousand eleven, two thousand and twelve. Greg

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do this in Europe around about six

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. And then obviously he said I know the

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>person because I know Death Row records like the back

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<v Speaker 1>of my hand. Is that right? Yeah? I know everything,

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<v Speaker 1>asked Reggie, can we do some trivia real quick? No?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so go ahead and tell on about the

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<v Speaker 1>event and yeah, Special Night the Murders of Tupacing Biggie

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<v Speaker 1>Presentation A night with Greg Katie but special guests former

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<v Speaker 1>Death Row Record street Security Mob, James McDonald MacDonald, James

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald coming down to Australia. Get your tickets on as

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<v Speaker 1>Takes dot com and look after it's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>good show. Full cities perf Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane in

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<v Speaker 1>July August this winner get ready say the website again

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<v Speaker 1>as tis dot com. Can you spell that? O z

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<v Speaker 1>t i X dot com dot au four five dollars

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half. Music component. Got a good DJ

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Shout out to my brother DJ Melaci. We're

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<v Speaker 1>only gonna be playing death Row Records, a little bit

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of bad Boy and we're taking people back. It's a

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>musical component to Alex that not you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really really good. But I just can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to get this brother down in down in Australia. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fantastic. Man, wait to go. I'm me alligator.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I can go. That's a place I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>want to visit. But I love to have you Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna conclude this episode of The Gangster Chronicles. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank everyone for downloading, listening, and for submitting

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