Speaker 1: They had a big indictment against a Hazard gang out
Speaker 1: there in East l A where they fire bombed a
Speaker 1: black family that was living in the projects in a
Speaker 1: predominantly Latino area where Big Hazard was at and and
Speaker 1: the Feds indicted them and they all were found guilty.
Speaker 1: They're all convicted for a hate crime. See here's my question, Um,
Speaker 1: if if a Mexican shoots a black and some gang
Speaker 1: gang conflict, if the Feds want to, they can charge
Speaker 1: them with a hate crime, even though it's not about
Speaker 1: racial hate, it's about this is I want this block.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to make the money on
Speaker 1: this block. But the Feds in Washington, d C. Are
Speaker 1: looking at what's going on in l A and are
Speaker 1: slapping hate crimes on some of the Mexican gangs. They're
Speaker 1: going to have to giving more time instead of slapping
Speaker 1: them on the risk. But they guess how many times
Speaker 1: a black gang has been charged with a hate crime
Speaker 1: from Washington d C. In l A County. It's never happened.
Speaker 1: It's never happened. But you had the Avenues hate crime,
Speaker 1: Big Hazard hate crime, uh tune in fourth Street down
Speaker 1: in Hawthorne. Well, you know a lot of people on Torrance.
Speaker 1: A lot of people tell me the tune in the
Speaker 1: Fourth Street neighborhood. They were racist over there in Torrance
Speaker 1: de Lamo area. Um, I've actually had a lot of
Speaker 1: people tell me, now, these Mexicans are different kind of Mexicans.
Speaker 1: These Mexicans were pushing a race line against the blacks
Speaker 1: that lived in that area and there was no black
Speaker 1: gang over there. Yeah, they to me like that. Over then,
Speaker 1: uh remember by Manchester part they after changed, they were
Speaker 1: just shooting blacks on the site. Well they shooting these
Speaker 1: they're trying to shoot these Coast Cripts. Well they don't
Speaker 1: like them for show. Yeah, over some drug deal went bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah they got them for woo woo, a lot of
Speaker 1: ship in and I mean, but what you expect. But
Speaker 1: that's that's a good example because the East Coast Cripts
Speaker 1: are getting shot up by the F third teens over
Speaker 1: a drug. They took some dope. They basically stole a
Speaker 1: truckload of dope from the F third teams. I think
Speaker 1: this is either ninety nine or two thousands, and the
Speaker 1: F third teams have been hating the East Coast Cripts
Speaker 1: ever since. Now they used to get alone. Of course,
Speaker 1: they all went to elementary Junior High. But here's the
Speaker 1: thing that the Swans also share a little bit of
Speaker 1: area that F third Team has. And I don't think
Speaker 1: the Swans and the FIR teams have no problems. So
Speaker 1: they don't like they don't like them dudes. Well, I
Speaker 1: think if they don't like East Coast cripts, because there's
Speaker 1: other cripts that they don't know, they don't drip. They
Speaker 1: don't like seven six, that's East Coast. They don't like
Speaker 1: eight nine, seven six, the six pack, eleven eight one nine, oh,
Speaker 1: all of these coastes. They don't like them. And and
Speaker 1: they take that beach to the penitentiary. If you get up,
Speaker 1: that'd beep goes straight to the penicentary. They don't like
Speaker 1: the East Coast cript. Well, the dude from the Mexican
Speaker 1: Mafia is the one that got that hit on um
Speaker 1: Costallane know from F third team has been locked up
Speaker 1: ever since nineteen eighty or eighty one, and he's the
Speaker 1: shot caller for a third team. Mess with a black
Speaker 1: or whatever? Do it deal with one they get killed
Speaker 1: and they see you're talking in there, they make they
Speaker 1: green like you to do to do Now, if there's
Speaker 1: any rich philanthropists out there that wants to do some
Speaker 1: good in Los Angeles community and help bring two neighbors together.
Speaker 1: Pay the debt that the East Coast Cripts owe to
Speaker 1: the f third teams, and you will save a lot
Speaker 1: of lives. That's real talk right there. The East Coast
Speaker 1: Cripts ain't never gonna pay that debt. You ain't gonna
Speaker 1: never stop that. If you know, if I call up Mr. Costallano,
Speaker 1: who's serving life in the penitentiary, and say, look, what
Speaker 1: can I do to get y'all to stop shooting the
Speaker 1: East Coast is what's he gonna say? Pay us what
Speaker 1: they owe us. And if there's a philanthropist out there
Speaker 1: that wants to pay the hundreds of thousands, if not
Speaker 1: a million, I don't know how much money the dope
Speaker 1: is worth. But if somebody out there wants to do
Speaker 1: some good, because that is the largest Black brown conflict
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, right You got a lot of blood
Speaker 1: shit and the East Coast is are huge. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bloodshed. And well, if it's only
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousand dollars they paid advocates that no, I
Speaker 1: think that. I don't know how much dope was in
Speaker 1: that truck. I'm saying, like, let's say it was thirty birds,
Speaker 1: you know, fifty birds, a hundred birds. That's still not
Speaker 1: a million, isn't it's a hundred birds of million dollars
Speaker 1: to figure? Thirty thousand, thirty thousand. Uh, say it was
Speaker 1: a hundred birds, So that's what how much? How much?
Speaker 1: How much with a hundred birds cost? How much? Thirty thousand?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the math right now. So let's just
Speaker 1: say it's a hundred birds. Back then a little more
Speaker 1: and that's three million dollars right there. That's three million
Speaker 1: if it was a hundred birds. What do you think
Speaker 1: it was about? How much you think was in that
Speaker 1: van that they took. I don't know. I know they
Speaker 1: got them good. But what I'm saying this is the thing.
Speaker 1: And then you gotta remember all the lives that the
Speaker 1: middle lost. That's what That's what like I told you,
Speaker 1: that's what happened with it, but on both sides. But
Speaker 1: that's what happened with the truths. Well, that's why it
Speaker 1: didn't work because they started realizing, hey, I don't over
Speaker 1: here party with James, and James is the one that
Speaker 1: killed my brother. Alcohol got in no brother that they
Speaker 1: started realizing that's James, that's the one that killed little one,
Speaker 1: little John man truths over exactly Well, I mean every
Speaker 1: everyone's got losses on both sides. But do Mexicans look
Speaker 1: at it like this? They so organized. Man, they probably said,
Speaker 1: it's the principle. Now it's not about the money no more.
Speaker 1: It's the principle. It's how y'all did that, how we
Speaker 1: had a connect and and and this is how y'all
Speaker 1: got damn, basically saying fuck us. This is how either
Speaker 1: side would think if that side got got Yeah. But
Speaker 1: if you're thinking in eligently, whether you're on the f
Speaker 1: third team side of the East Coast crypt side, you
Speaker 1: want to reduce the amount of murders because it's getting
Speaker 1: in the way of making money or whatever way you're
Speaker 1: making money in the war can go on in the
Speaker 1: city of l A. That ship is going out of town.
Speaker 1: Whatever they're doing and how they made their money goes elsewhere.
Speaker 1: That little grumb ship they're doing on the colers that
Speaker 1: that's they're doing. That's personal ship. But you're not gonna
Speaker 1: come in here and do me the way you did me.
Speaker 1: Take our ship and then clown about it. The war zone,
Speaker 1: the war zone, and that's any side. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: America dropped two bombs on Japan, killed a two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand people, and you're telling me that we can't get
Speaker 1: the f third teams in the East Coast crypt together
Speaker 1: over maybe twenty murders, maybe thirty murders. No, it's not okay.
Speaker 1: I would if this was nice, made a decision to
Speaker 1: end the war. Ain't. No, none of the kids have
Speaker 1: died about a one. But how does the country we started?
Speaker 1: We started a war with what? Uh? We didn't start
Speaker 1: Bush Junior started a war with with Iraq just because
Speaker 1: that man made a threat to his daddy. And that's
Speaker 1: why that war, and that's why that second one war
Speaker 1: I read, war started and he wasn't gonna stop. He lied,
Speaker 1: he had Colonel Paul go in live. He didn't have
Speaker 1: power life to present that case, so he can start
Speaker 1: that war. And I'm just saying, when you have personal
Speaker 1: fillers involved versus and you gotta put the pass in
Speaker 1: the pass and move forward. We look at it like
Speaker 1: that and then it's easier to do it individually, but
Speaker 1: as a gang, as a structure. I got life in
Speaker 1: prison this is this is this is where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be for the rest of my life. This is what's
Speaker 1: gonna take care of me for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: This is what's gonna keep me alive for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. All these things you think about being imprisoned.
Speaker 1: So why would I sit here and make my people
Speaker 1: think I'm weak by saying, Okay, funk that war, let
Speaker 1: it go, ceasefire is over and done. When we ain't
Speaker 1: set down in the cryption, they the people that they had,
Speaker 1: they don't got, no moved, So you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: one of these little they tried and going here and
Speaker 1: don't know what you try. No one worked on this.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about doing the truths and and doing that
Speaker 1: that was they really tried, the bloods and cryps. What
Speaker 1: was out there hanging party. Yeah, I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: saying they tried to stop the things. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: how personal feeling have ended in l A. For example,
Speaker 1: the Venice Shoreline crypts and to vat thirteens. They seventeen
Speaker 1: murders in a two year period. That beef is over
Speaker 1: for something smaller than it wasn't the principle, but there
Speaker 1: was seventeen murders in eighteen months. That's a lot of murders.
Speaker 1: How how long this war been over. It's been over
Speaker 1: since ninety four. It lasted from ninety ninety three to
Speaker 1: the ninety four seventeen homicides. Veni Showlines was fighting something.
Speaker 1: It's a major connect over there. That's where they're all eating. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that it's it's possible. It's a good
Speaker 1: thing that it happened. Anything is prossible. And the Rolling
Speaker 1: forties crips and the Rolling thirties Cripts had a tenure
Speaker 1: war from from ninety six to two thousand six. That's over.
Speaker 1: You know, um totally different. I know, every conflict is
Speaker 1: different when you get in the head. This would be
Speaker 1: the hardest conflict to resolve. This is the biggest one.
Speaker 1: Maybe not Maybe if the head boss the mafia's dying
Speaker 1: in prison and they get some new leaders in there.
Speaker 1: Let's say they want to squash this and and and
Speaker 1: work different, then you got a chance. But not right now,
Speaker 1: because they live in off principle man and and that's
Speaker 1: how they stay strong. I mean, it's all about money.
Speaker 1: It's all about money. They want their money but you
Speaker 1: can't look it's hard for a dude in prison and
Speaker 1: really put a lot of value on money too. Though no,
Speaker 1: these dudes actually have bank accounts. I mean they want
Speaker 1: to take care of that people, but to put value
Speaker 1: in fact, these guys will make more money if this
Speaker 1: conflict is over. This conflict will create more economic opportunities
Speaker 1: for both sides, whether you serve and dope or trying
Speaker 1: to be a Rapper's just everyone. It's a win win
Speaker 1: for everyone. What the Mesicans did, they went into dealing
Speaker 1: with those cats. They start putting their nieces and sisters
Speaker 1: into um not not only police academy, but they're selling
Speaker 1: houses and ship, they nurses. They're doing all of that now.
Speaker 1: So they invest in their money in a good way.
Speaker 1: They got businesses, They invest in their money. Their money
Speaker 1: ain't just stacking up, so they don't need us to
Speaker 1: get rid of that ship no more. They got different connects.
Speaker 1: They went all the way around, and that was one
Speaker 1: of the smartest things they ever did. Exactly they went
Speaker 1: all the way around. When they say, okay, Alonzo, you
Speaker 1: and your son, you're gonna be good people. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get any trouble. You're gonna we're gonna make sure y'all. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: well you're gonna be policeman's now I'll go. And you're
Speaker 1: gonna be bringing these drugs into the l A County
Speaker 1: jail for us and into the prison system. And they
Speaker 1: and they're taking care of them. They take that's what's
Speaker 1: going on. Now. Your your sister gonna be a cop,
Speaker 1: she's gonna be. And this is what's going on now.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of them nursous real estate. They
Speaker 1: were they were smart. How do you think they're buying
Speaker 1: and shelling them houses like that? They took them a
Speaker 1: while to get politically connected, but they started. They starting,
Speaker 1: so that's how they was able to go around. And
Speaker 1: we don't need y'all for ship. We need this here.
Speaker 1: But we are never forget this. I'm telling you man,
Speaker 1: they man, and and everything they did, everything they did,
Speaker 1: it's worked every sense, every sense. Chuse back then if
Speaker 1: you can, if you can, remember, you didn't see them
Speaker 1: letting their their mama's push them cards for the cans
Speaker 1: and ship. They will get robbed. Back in the seventies
Speaker 1: early eighties, they was getting robbed. You didn't see pops
Speaker 1: walking to the store they they're able to move freely
Speaker 1: now because they are't dealing with the bullshit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's totally different the robberies on
Speaker 1: on all that ship is totally all that ship. Don't
Speaker 1: win down, don't changed. Well, if there's any philanthropists out
Speaker 1: there that wants to do some good, hit me up
Speaker 1: because I have a passion with bringing neighborhoods together and
Speaker 1: it would be amazing if there was a way we
Speaker 1: can end this conflict between the East Coast Crips and
Speaker 1: the Floodencia. After that, say gang, but I do know
Speaker 1: that it's gonna take money. But all right, let's move
Speaker 1: on to the to our next topic. This also comes
Speaker 1: from another person online. This was a really interesting question.
Speaker 1: How do gang members deal with having relationships with people
Speaker 1: from rival gangs? And let me say, like, for example,
Speaker 1: a blood might be dating a crip, or two cousins
Speaker 1: might be from the opposite side. They might be from
Speaker 1: rival neighborhoods. Or a girl that's a blood her father
Speaker 1: is a crip. You know, there's all these bizarre types
Speaker 1: of relationships where people are from the opposite side. James,
Speaker 1: I know you got some first hand experience with this.
Speaker 1: Give us an example of south side one from Hohover
Speaker 1: one out here in the I E. But but going
Speaker 1: my first mother, I've been. I was with her seventy
Speaker 1: five to seventy nine. We had a child. Um going
Speaker 1: over the house she lived in a hundred and eighteenth
Speaker 1: in San Pedro, and going over there to her house,
Speaker 1: you know, it was crips on that yeah, Lemonades Coast
Speaker 1: going on that. I mean, I'm on that block. Now
Speaker 1: back then, I'm catching the bus red chuck, I mean,
Speaker 1: white tennant shoes, red shoes, strange walking up the block
Speaker 1: of Blood and by her being cool with them, some
Speaker 1: of them catching like okay, who whoa you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Damn, But I got my card riding over there,
Speaker 1: spending the night kicking and with her doing my thing.
Speaker 1: So basically you're talking about getting a pass exactly, explaining
Speaker 1: to people listening getting the passage. So I'm cool, I
Speaker 1: gotta pass because I was cool with John. Me and
Speaker 1: John is together. John is cool with those cats in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. But she was from Hoover, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So they was all good. Like my sister's
Speaker 1: boyfriends were crips, and they used to come to the
Speaker 1: hood and not telling homies as my sisters. Boyfriend lead
Speaker 1: these cats along. You couldn't touch him cow Bold Markets
Speaker 1: and all of those cats from nine A Mafia. These
Speaker 1: was my dogs still right now today. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, y'all couldn't mess with him. So man just
Speaker 1: going over and dealing. And me and my homeboy Master Run.
Speaker 1: We used to go over here on Link Street in
Speaker 1: Maine and all of the hoovers was over there, but
Speaker 1: all my my baby mama, we'll kicking over there. So
Speaker 1: I interact with the hoovers. I interact with the East
Speaker 1: Coast never tripped who was never tripped? Some of them
Speaker 1: guys are my dogs, like right now today, Uh my
Speaker 1: boy Duck shout out to Doug, he from five nine
Speaker 1: He from Hoover. I got a lot of people I
Speaker 1: work with. It's through my baby mama's you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, All them through my baby mama. And it
Speaker 1: worked that way. How many baby mamas you got? Alright?
Speaker 1: Got three? Okay? And what happened is you you you
Speaker 1: meet some of these guys and then you you've been
Speaker 1: a lost matriens with him. Y'all come cool, y'all former
Speaker 1: bond get out. We're still cool. Do you go to prison,
Speaker 1: get out? You cool? My cousins or crypts. So I
Speaker 1: go to thehood, you gotta pass because your cousins ship
Speaker 1: like that. So it's everybody know everybody. Now. I want
Speaker 1: to ask Reggie, do you ever use these people that
Speaker 1: can bounce back and forth between hoods that see eyes
Speaker 1: to get information or gang intelligence when he was an officer. No,
Speaker 1: I never got in the law enforcement that deep where
Speaker 1: that was my father and Brennan and lad and all
Speaker 1: of them that work they got to see eyes and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Pretty much all of my stuff was
Speaker 1: done spontaneous on the street. Um, but I was fortunate.
Speaker 1: I was young. I was a young officer when I
Speaker 1: was a copy and I was a lot dinner and
Speaker 1: and uh, I was making money and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And so I was really messing with all of these
Speaker 1: nigga's uh girlfriends or systems. Was single, and I was
Speaker 1: dating women that were dating gang members. Also, they generally
Speaker 1: had to stop or didn't want to because that's the
Speaker 1: problem with the girls. They generally didn't want to be dating.
Speaker 1: To me, they of the guys, Well, what do you
Speaker 1: think the appeal is is for some girls to date
Speaker 1: gang members that aren't in the game, that aren't well
Speaker 1: someone were Generally they didn't like to because they became
Speaker 1: that that term hood rat. People don't know what a
Speaker 1: hood rat really means. A hood wrat is really a
Speaker 1: chick the dating a dude that's from their hood. Well,
Speaker 1: she got a date at least more, at least a couple,
Speaker 1: you know, not if you just got one. What they
Speaker 1: dated that one? Everybody didn't want to mess with them
Speaker 1: no more. You know what I'm saying, They did want
Speaker 1: or that dude always like nobody wants to mess with
Speaker 1: James grow because James. That's what And that's my point
Speaker 1: about that. So that's why the girls usually had a
Speaker 1: problem with that. But I mean we took it to
Speaker 1: about females and stuff like that, but I know the
Speaker 1: question was really about, uh, this dude, this was cool
Speaker 1: with it And to be honest with what what what
Speaker 1: taught us to be cool? Not us? I keep saying that,
Speaker 1: so I don't know, I keep using the word else.
Speaker 1: But what my experience, my experience was, what was I'm like, quick,
Speaker 1: no I'm not, but uh, what what what generally was
Speaker 1: was um kinda made me forget my trainer thought talking
Speaker 1: like I want to hear about you dating girls that
Speaker 1: dated gang. I mean I was on a dated a
Speaker 1: girl in every hood that I used to go over there.
Speaker 1: I was like, sleep over there later night. I had
Speaker 1: no problems with that. But my point wasn't I married
Speaker 1: my wife, her brother Tony Guillory from uh uh neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Uh compt and curls my wife. Yeah, that's my wife. Brother.
Speaker 1: Me and him was cool to this day. I remember
Speaker 1: it was coming to jail um then every every day
Speaker 1: when I was in the jail. But I was, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, I was young into into the law enforce.
Speaker 1: If you didn't retire early, the fans would be watching
Speaker 1: your every step because they'd be saying, man, this guy's
Speaker 1: got a I was fratenization and God forbid when I
Speaker 1: want to start working with death Row. That el Ready
Speaker 1: club incident, what happened. I probably would have still there there,
Speaker 1: but that's when my chief pulled me in. After that
Speaker 1: Already club incident, it was like, your ass better get
Speaker 1: out here. I'm gonna fire your ass. But you know,
Speaker 1: because we left the scene when when that incident happened,
Speaker 1: So I had to go ahead and left my way
Speaker 1: reality there. But my point was the drug game. The
Speaker 1: drug games forgot bloods and crips will be able to
Speaker 1: deal with each other because you leave the crypts, to
Speaker 1: be honest, before the ages. We're all going back todays.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about nineties and stuthing like that. This was
Speaker 1: going on before cocaine or anything. Game and his mother
Speaker 1: going to blood getting passes because you talk, that's the
Speaker 1: women they're going across. But they wasn't game. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't as many hoods and niggas didn't have as many
Speaker 1: beasts as they did. You get beating all that, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't that you might killed, you get a whip.
Speaker 1: It wasn't as tough as as it became in the nineties.
Speaker 1: And niggas coming around with eight cas and stuff because
Speaker 1: the game brought the niggas guns and was able to
Speaker 1: get the eight k's and riding around and getting mobile
Speaker 1: and all of that. Because you gotta remember the game
Speaker 1: members was young. How James you're talking about Ryan bicycles
Speaker 1: and all of that. He didn't do that late at night.
Speaker 1: But niggas grew up in the games and they got
Speaker 1: older and older. That's why we don't know. People be like,
Speaker 1: how are you fifty year old and still claiming? We
Speaker 1: don't know because we got that mini fifty sixty year
Speaker 1: old game. We don't have them because they all growing up,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up with this, and so we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't know when it's gonna stop. When do you
Speaker 1: grow up? You know as some would say when people
Speaker 1: say when did you stop claiming? And you know James
Speaker 1: fifty four now and he you know, he still will
Speaker 1: tell you I'm from or he still known as mob
Speaker 1: Ja or from the Mob, but he would tell you
Speaker 1: I'm not one, you know, I'm not a game member.
Speaker 1: But every boy, we were just looking at a great
Speaker 1: site when you know, from my boy Pierre the funeral
Speaker 1: where all of those niggers we went to school with
Speaker 1: fifty two fifty three all I'm wearing Burgundy still with
Speaker 1: hall a mob or a parrule the blood. They had
Speaker 1: an incident over there after the funeral, you know, because
Speaker 1: well I think it's because of alcohol, but I understanding,
Speaker 1: but they all still claiming and these are four year
Speaker 1: old grow but then I claim as a gang banging
Speaker 1: they claiming as a neighborhood tried neighborhood gang banging man.
Speaker 1: You have to be an active game member. You have
Speaker 1: to be out there killing what you what with the
Speaker 1: title hold. You gotta be killing the opposition. And these
Speaker 1: people aren't putting in work that you're talking about, Reggie.
Speaker 1: They just they go to the club and something happening.
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna side with Yeah, they're gonna side
Speaker 1: what they are. Who fights the days in the club,
Speaker 1: you can definitely have a fight. Don't go outside the club.
Speaker 1: Yeah that park a lot, that's where did you go down?
Speaker 1: But don't want to know, James, did all of these
Speaker 1: did you always get it past or did you have
Speaker 1: some close calls? I got ship like when I went
Speaker 1: to let's talk about age it because when you're talking,
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the E d s in the seventies,
Speaker 1: that's when you was. That's when you was dating and
Speaker 1: all of these kids to day, now, can can I
Speaker 1: go to my baby mama house right now today? And
Speaker 1: she lived in the Crib neighborhood? Yeah I can, Oh,
Speaker 1: he said, to day my son, can I go to
Speaker 1: my son house? And then the group neighborhood. My cousin's
Speaker 1: ninety eight and figure row that's definite lane. No, that's
Speaker 1: that those sins and who Hoover's over there. But you
Speaker 1: shoes trains on and white tennis shoes on. Call my
Speaker 1: cousin and right now, all of those cats respected us
Speaker 1: and and and they'll tell you from killing Wayne and
Speaker 1: everybody that I took over there that they number love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that won the little That's that's my point. That's my point.
Speaker 1: When does it stop? You still game? And then I'm
Speaker 1: not game? Now. I think this question is really important
Speaker 1: because a lot of gang conflict actually starts over a girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of like twenty years thirty year wards, was
Speaker 1: over dating a girl because you're dealing with a girl
Speaker 1: that's working with somebody in the hood and then she
Speaker 1: dating you. But then when you come through, somebody letting
Speaker 1: it be known that you're coming through. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you got two cashes, and that don't
Speaker 1: have to be a blood in the crypt. That could
Speaker 1: be two crips getting into it over the same chick.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I understand me. It
Speaker 1: grew from back in the days. This is how it
Speaker 1: used to be. Every motherfucking crypt you knew had a
Speaker 1: damn there had a blood female. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: a date and then brother's friend. And then with that
Speaker 1: you you grow up buying with the brother. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because all the cripts that that there
Speaker 1: with my sisters are cool with me. I got a
Speaker 1: good relationship with him, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: why didn't you ever let any of your sisters really
Speaker 1: dated any blood because they didn't want. I knew what
Speaker 1: type of niggas my my friends was, so you're not
Speaker 1: gonna right there have a baby. And then I had
Speaker 1: the kid's knew. But that's why it always went outside
Speaker 1: the hood. Me personally, I never dated nobody in my
Speaker 1: hood because all my friends out there, my female chicks
Speaker 1: out with a lot of females and and and cash
Speaker 1: that used to bring them through. The chicks that nobody know.
Speaker 1: Some of them used to get touched. Some of them
Speaker 1: used to get touched. Now, mind you, my daughter Mama
Speaker 1: more in the hood, Pam from south Side. Nobody with Pam,
Speaker 1: none of the home girls, and they knew she was
Speaker 1: from south Side. Well, I know what the incident though,
Speaker 1: when NICKI and now went over there, Yeah they went
Speaker 1: to Southside that they they went over there, Yeah probably yeah,
Speaker 1: But so they had incidence. They have incidence. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, I'm just what this say here, man, It's
Speaker 1: been going on for a long day. Happens because some
Speaker 1: guys got that cool relationship with this dude. It was
Speaker 1: mainly because they didn't want to date their brother friends.
Speaker 1: Now can can Can I just meet a check to
Speaker 1: day and she tell me Baby Gangster is her brother
Speaker 1: and come to our house. I want you to have
Speaker 1: dinner with us. Hell no, I see you somewhere else.
Speaker 1: That's what a smart nig gonna do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you still have that going on right
Speaker 1: now today. And and a lot of people, a lot
Speaker 1: of bars have grown because you have bloods messing with
Speaker 1: female cribs. Cribs messing with female bloods. I think you
Speaker 1: and baby Ganger could sit down and have a meal.
Speaker 1: Yeah now, yeah, so there would be no problem. And
Speaker 1: he feel the same way. Probably not years ago, that's
Speaker 1: absolutely we wouldn't be uh. And And if I sat
Speaker 1: down and talk to Gagst, I tell gays of one
Speaker 1: story and he'll remember it like it was yesterday. The
Speaker 1: beef that we had. It was a straight okay corral incident.
Speaker 1: And I bet you're here say that was you. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: motherfucking and I bet you here remember it. I don't
Speaker 1: have no problems with that, dude. Did you have any
Speaker 1: girlfriends that were ever from in hood Santana or Atlantic?
Speaker 1: Every female south Side baby mama from your baby mama
Speaker 1: from south Side. I've talked to other females, different females
Speaker 1: from different hoods, but never to come on. I need
Speaker 1: to come on to the path now where your two
Speaker 1: other baby mamas from one is south Side, My oldest
Speaker 1: mama John is from Hoover one o seven and my
Speaker 1: other son, my baby boy mama is I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1: I don't never remember you mess with anybody from Luther's
Speaker 1: mom area. Never never, That's my point. They don't mess
Speaker 1: with But this is my family. Don't lose too many
Speaker 1: niggs that marry somebody and all of them well they
Speaker 1: pills and was different. She moved a girl in from
Speaker 1: spaky old woman, remember that from from shut them off.
Speaker 1: My whole thing was I was different from everybody. I
Speaker 1: don't want a chicken the hood. If I did with
Speaker 1: a chicken the hood, I don't bring nothing from the
Speaker 1: outside to my house because I already know how it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. So I didn't miss my business with what pleasure?
Speaker 1: Should I say? So? I never dealt with a female
Speaker 1: from the MiB All My business was outside of that.
Speaker 1: When when I left the hood and did my baby
Speaker 1: mama's are that chick? I did that and left it there.
Speaker 1: When my baby mama wanted to come to the hood,
Speaker 1: she kicked it with silver. You none them, Cynthia, none,
Speaker 1: all of them. She was cool with all of them. Now,
Speaker 1: your baby, your first baby mama was from south Side,
Speaker 1: from moving from but the one house from south Side?
Speaker 1: Was she living in south Side? When you was dating her?
Speaker 1: She lived on California Street right now? Still? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: how how would you move differently when you would go
Speaker 1: visit her? Or how often would you visit her? I've
Speaker 1: been over there in my Cadillac. I've been over there.
Speaker 1: I had a seventy seven calac white Rams the whole time.
Speaker 1: I had a a blue station wagon. I had a
Speaker 1: Burgundy Maximum. They never said ship to me. They never
Speaker 1: said Keithie d and Paula was living right across the
Speaker 1: street on California, So I never never had to beat
Speaker 1: for none of them. Paula and and and Pam was
Speaker 1: like this, best friends, best friends, So I never had
Speaker 1: I never had a problem going over there because I
Speaker 1: was always ready for the timeline on it, on the
Speaker 1: dates and stuff, because you know, like what year this was,
Speaker 1: I ain't good with. This is your second baby mama
Speaker 1: from Southside, right, Yeah, what years did you start dating her?
Speaker 1: I started dating Pam and not even two, so this
Speaker 1: is before all the baby lane and all of that
Speaker 1: stuff went down. But when you was dating your first
Speaker 1: baby mama, that was in the seventies. She was from Hoover,
Speaker 1: but she was living on a hundred eighteenth in Saint
Speaker 1: Pedro in the East Coast. And would you have to
Speaker 1: be extra careful going over there to the Hoovers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never really I never really dealt with the Hoovers
Speaker 1: hood on Lean Street. I ran into the Hoovers and
Speaker 1: then on ninty eighth and figure roar over my cousin
Speaker 1: Tony and Tracy. My cousin Tracy, she was a Hoover
Speaker 1: one on seven and and and even hanging with the
Speaker 1: who was Marcus and Calvin and Chris uh which is
Speaker 1: calbo Um. Archie Archie is from live over there by Ninnie,
Speaker 1: Remember Archie. Okay, Archie still over there. We're hanging with them.
Speaker 1: We even in My My My Dogs Rest in Peace.
Speaker 1: Moon from Raymond, Raymond Avenue, crips and Moon and Tracy
Speaker 1: was my rid of dies. Back in the day. We
Speaker 1: were stilling cars and doing crazy ship meeting up on
Speaker 1: nine and bigger role, I can tell you. In the
Speaker 1: mid eighties, one of the biggest dope dealers from Watts
Speaker 1: lived in our little right cold street from my grandmother
Speaker 1: what's little next door to James and now the boy
Speaker 1: with the gates and all that. Yeah, the biggest, I mean,
Speaker 1: the great, great shot was Great Street. And then so
Speaker 1: it happened you know where it happens where you know
Speaker 1: you don't be respecial, start coming you don't. You don't
Speaker 1: because MC if you ever see him again and talk
Speaker 1: to him, he moved in the hood. But when he
Speaker 1: moved in the hood, it was said that m C
Speaker 1: a moving in the hood and he cripping in woolo
Speaker 1: woo woo. Okay. As soon as he moved in, robbed
Speaker 1: his name bringing his ship and down. He had a
Speaker 1: told Chuck if he be honest with the ship, he
Speaker 1: had a toad, I mean you haul come in. He
Speaker 1: had you all go out. He didn't stay to stay
Speaker 1: long at all, and he wouldn't he wouldn't have made it.
Speaker 1: So he tried to move into my part room. The
Speaker 1: girls used to good thing and you try to go
Speaker 1: on your mama tell you too, nigger, this is where
Speaker 1: we're going. This is what we're moving on. I don't
Speaker 1: understand those gangs something with all of that, there would
Speaker 1: be a lot of that. Now, did you receive any
Speaker 1: backlash from your homies when they found out you was
Speaker 1: dating Pam from South Side? Did they say why are
Speaker 1: you doing that? Every last one of them cast loved her.
Speaker 1: I gave a party Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Last
Speaker 1: one of the hoies, uh embraced Pam as as as
Speaker 1: one of theirs. They respect of respecting me cool, they
Speaker 1: gave her respect because when the females are one female
Speaker 1: in particular guy that Pam on some female. Pam got
Speaker 1: in that ass, mop that ass up on the car
Speaker 1: and ain't none of him. I ain't working with her.
Speaker 1: And they left Pam along. Pam got to respect Pam
Speaker 1: did Pam. So it was it was good like that
Speaker 1: her people Hawk and you know from south Side come
Speaker 1: through this your people, there's my people. And I respected
Speaker 1: them just like that. So you actually had some south
Speaker 1: Side cribs come to your house during events of parties. Yeah, hug,
Speaker 1: this was her play brother whomever she wanted him to
Speaker 1: be or whatever. But I embraced him like you know,
Speaker 1: as if Okay, that's who it is, that's who he is.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, but you know they
Speaker 1: wasn't coming over there when blues respect, but they were.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I let everybody know, just whoop
Speaker 1: the woof from south Side. Nobody fun with him? Oh no,
Speaker 1: he's good. Let's drink. Like when I went to the
Speaker 1: Hoovers and I'm sitting here kicking it with with my
Speaker 1: homies from the Hoovers and we're sitting there, they're playing dominoes.
Speaker 1: It's the hormeboy with the from my par rules and
Speaker 1: this is what's going down. Woo woo. And I was cool.
Speaker 1: I should didn't play dominoes. And every now and then
Speaker 1: then you have some problems and when you have some
Speaker 1: gunplayer or something like that, and then they go for
Speaker 1: a minute. It's still kind of risky, though, don't you think,
Speaker 1: because you never know. Even though these these Hoovers are
Speaker 1: cool with you, or these south Sides are cool with you,
Speaker 1: there's always another person that presents themselves and that's the
Speaker 1: person you don't know. You've never seen him before, and
Speaker 1: that's why you never underst made anybody. You're still ready.
Speaker 1: I'm always packed, and that's why you still be ready.
Speaker 1: If you feel uncomfortable on your surroundings, then you get
Speaker 1: up and bounce. That don't make you know punk. You
Speaker 1: get up and bounce, you already know you ain't supposed
Speaker 1: to be here now. And I gotta take the word
Speaker 1: of this guy. He gotta have some type of credibility
Speaker 1: with the rest of these cats, not the funk with
Speaker 1: this dude. So if he got that reputation, and they
Speaker 1: already know not to funk with me because they the
Speaker 1: backlasses right here, he gonna take care of these cats
Speaker 1: because yeah made me look like a wo woo. Now,
Speaker 1: my nigga, get bank on my watch. Now. I gotta
Speaker 1: answer to Whoo the whoo whoo whoo and his people.
Speaker 1: Now have you ever known the game member that isolated
Speaker 1: him and herself so much to where they would say, now,
Speaker 1: I'm not going over there, even though I got assisted note,
Speaker 1: I ain't going over there. A lot of them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of them, because I mean, you got something
Speaker 1: that just really don't care. You got something that's okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust you, and you got something that just
Speaker 1: really no and really don't give a fun if in
Speaker 1: a boux to show you I ain't I don't know,
Speaker 1: bit ship, I'm fronna roll with you because I ain't
Speaker 1: scared this road. Some of fuckers ain't built like that.
Speaker 1: So they decline we were moving out. Yeah, well, before
Speaker 1: we wrap up the show, you guys have announcement to make,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna turn the mic over the Reggie. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So we got uh my boy Nick nick Non over
Speaker 1: from the Australia. So you people over there in Australia, morb,
Speaker 1: James is going to be coming James McDonald, I apologize,
Speaker 1: James is going to be coming over to uh Australia
Speaker 1: this summer and um him and Great Katis. They're gonna
Speaker 1: call it a show called The Night with Great Katis
Speaker 1: and We're gonna have a boy Nick coming promoted and
Speaker 1: and tell ya how y'all can register and sign up
Speaker 1: and coming and and and here Marb and here James talking,
Speaker 1: tell all these stories. And because you just keep you
Speaker 1: not that you're doing that shows he did take over today. Huh.
Speaker 1: I got you because I gotta be redg every time,
Speaker 1: because he turned his back on me all the time.
Speaker 1: Every time I say something wrong or whatever is either
Speaker 1: like this or he turned his back and like, why
Speaker 1: do you keep trying your back on me? Why said
Speaker 1: something wrong? Just tell me that's wrong wrong? Okay, So Nick,
Speaker 1: you're from Australia. Huh from Australia. Massive death Row records fan.
Speaker 1: I love love for Reggie and how do you look
Speaker 1: up with these fellows? Well, I mean I've always loved Reggie,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's a straight up cat.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his. Always held a dawn
Speaker 1: with't even always will Mom James. I reached out to
Speaker 1: last year after the flat TV stuff went off and
Speaker 1: Massy Beak found in Mob James. Mob James and I
Speaker 1: met last week for the first time face to face,
Speaker 1: and we kicked it for four hours. We ship tiss.
Speaker 1: He cried like five times, just a table getting drunk.
Speaker 1: As we were know, I was thinking drinking Jack Daniels,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't drink overage, dragging water. Let
Speaker 1: me say this, uh, my my history, my life, just
Speaker 1: growing up or whatever. We touched on some of that
Speaker 1: growing up with mom, pops and all of this, and
Speaker 1: I don't they never been in my shoes like that,
Speaker 1: never had father that you know, and then just listening
Speaker 1: to my story and it kind of got touchy. So
Speaker 1: one thing abottom is that that I appreciated these guys
Speaker 1: for for calling me. You know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm glad, you know, just reaching out to me and saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: you got a story. I want to hear it. And
Speaker 1: then then wanted me to be a part of the
Speaker 1: project to say, you can bring a lot to the
Speaker 1: story that we're trying to tell. So I welcome all
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying, And it was
Speaker 1: important for me to tell my story and and to
Speaker 1: have people like this listen. That's why I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: nothing for a long time. I wouldn't even speak on
Speaker 1: the death row and my my brother or anything because
Speaker 1: I felt that I don't want to have to suck
Speaker 1: more for telling me they don't want to hear that ship.
Speaker 1: That ship is old. So just them talking to me
Speaker 1: and listening. And then the feedback I got from from
Speaker 1: my conversations with them was so it was just like
Speaker 1: great and and I've been talking to him every since
Speaker 1: I met him the other day, had a ball. We're
Speaker 1: sitting here at this Sierra golf club. And when I
Speaker 1: walked in, I gave him these death Row shirts, two shirts,
Speaker 1: and he just took his shirt off and put on
Speaker 1: this Death Row shirt and he's white. Yeah, people looking like,
Speaker 1: what the hell this this here? So when I walked in,
Speaker 1: I felt out of place. And then when he changed
Speaker 1: his shirt, I felt like whoa, And they think we're
Speaker 1: game bankers and ship now. But I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let nick, I said, what's going on so we can
Speaker 1: get out of here. You have an event that's related
Speaker 1: to former l ap D officer Greg Hating. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Greg Hating and I are doing a project, particularly on
Speaker 1: the murders of Tupac and Notorious blog. Do you think
Speaker 1: that has been done like too much? Now? What can
Speaker 1: you add different that hasn't already been done. As James
Speaker 1: was saying before, this is gonna be a speaking to
Speaker 1: her where people can actually get up there and have
Speaker 1: their questions. So Greg, Katie's gonna take you right through.
Speaker 1: He's going to talk about some stuff that he hasn't
Speaker 1: released before. He's going to talk about some stuff in
Speaker 1: the investigation that's you know, that he hasn't spoke about,
Speaker 1: and he's going to bring that Wayne. Greg and I
Speaker 1: were having a look at all these different ideas where
Speaker 1: are like, you know what, We're going to get some
Speaker 1: brothers out there. They can give some real life stories
Speaker 1: from death roll records. He was tossing up different ideas
Speaker 1: and I was like, bolm, I got the guy. And
Speaker 1: that's when I thought mob James after seeing flat TV
Speaker 1: and that. So it goes for about two and a
Speaker 1: half hours. The show, Greg's Gregg's presentation is for two hours.
Speaker 1: But Greg's never done this presentation to a live audience,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he's never done a
Speaker 1: live audience show. And then obviously at the last part
Speaker 1: of the show, it's a question and answer, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we can talk to people. People
Speaker 1: in the crowd can ask James their questions about time
Speaker 1: on death Roll records under SUGU night and obviously being
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas when Tupuc was tragically murdered. So how
Speaker 1: did you hook up? Would former LPD officer Greg Katie.
Speaker 1: Greg I reached out to about two thousand and ten,
Speaker 1: and then I was doing some stuff around that around
Speaker 1: about probably two thousand eleven, two thousand and twelve. Greg
Speaker 1: was going to do this in Europe around about six
Speaker 1: months ago. And then obviously he said I know the
Speaker 1: person because I know Death Row records like the back
Speaker 1: of my hand. Is that right? Yeah? I know everything,
Speaker 1: asked Reggie, can we do some trivia real quick? No?
Speaker 1: All right, so go ahead and tell on about the
Speaker 1: event and yeah, Special Night the Murders of Tupacing Biggie
Speaker 1: Presentation A night with Greg Katie but special guests former
Speaker 1: Death Row Record street Security Mob, James McDonald MacDonald, James
Speaker 1: McDonald coming down to Australia. Get your tickets on as
Speaker 1: Takes dot com and look after it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good show. Full cities perf Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane in
Speaker 1: July August this winner get ready say the website again
Speaker 1: as tis dot com. Can you spell that? O z
Speaker 1: t i X dot com dot au four five dollars
Speaker 1: two and a half. Music component. Got a good DJ
Speaker 1: out there, Shout out to my brother DJ Melaci. We're
Speaker 1: only gonna be playing death Row Records, a little bit
Speaker 1: of bad Boy and we're taking people back. It's a
Speaker 1: musical component to Alex that not you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's really really good. But I just can't wait
Speaker 1: to get this brother down in down in Australia. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be fantastic. Man, wait to go. I'm me alligator.
Speaker 1: I wish I can go. That's a place I definitely
Speaker 1: want to visit. But I love to have you Alex.
Speaker 1: We're gonna conclude this episode of The Gangster Chronicles. I
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