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Speaker 1: a black gang has been charged with a hate crime

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Speaker 1: How how long this war been over. It's been over

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Speaker 1: But every boy, we were just looking at a great

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Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna side with Yeah, they're gonna side

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Speaker 1: he said, to day my son, can I go to

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you got two cashes, and that don't

424
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: have to be a blood in the crypt. That could

425
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: be two crips getting into it over the same chick.

426
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I understand me. It

427
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: grew from back in the days. This is how it

428
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: used to be. Every motherfucking crypt you knew had a

429
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: damn there had a blood female. You know what I'm saying,

430
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: a date and then brother's friend. And then with that

431
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: you you grow up buying with the brother. You know

432
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because all the cripts that that there

433
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: with my sisters are cool with me. I got a

434
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: good relationship with him, you know what I'm saying. But

435
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: why didn't you ever let any of your sisters really

436
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: dated any blood because they didn't want. I knew what

437
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: type of niggas my my friends was, so you're not

438
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: gonna right there have a baby. And then I had

439
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: the kid's knew. But that's why it always went outside

440
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: the hood. Me personally, I never dated nobody in my

441
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: hood because all my friends out there, my female chicks

442
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: out with a lot of females and and and cash

443
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: that used to bring them through. The chicks that nobody know.

444
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: Some of them used to get touched. Some of them

445
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: used to get touched. Now, mind you, my daughter Mama

446
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: more in the hood, Pam from south Side. Nobody with Pam,

447
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: none of the home girls, and they knew she was

448
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: from south Side. Well, I know what the incident though,

449
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: when NICKI and now went over there, Yeah they went

450
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: to Southside that they they went over there, Yeah probably yeah,

451
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: But so they had incidence. They have incidence. What I'm

452
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: saying is, I'm just what this say here, man, It's

453
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: been going on for a long day. Happens because some

454
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: guys got that cool relationship with this dude. It was

455
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: mainly because they didn't want to date their brother friends.

456
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: Now can can Can I just meet a check to

457
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: day and she tell me Baby Gangster is her brother

458
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: and come to our house. I want you to have

459
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: dinner with us. Hell no, I see you somewhere else.

460
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: That's what a smart nig gonna do. You know what

461
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you still have that going on right

462
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: now today. And and a lot of people, a lot

463
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: of bars have grown because you have bloods messing with

464
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: female cribs. Cribs messing with female bloods. I think you

465
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: and baby Ganger could sit down and have a meal.

466
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah now, yeah, so there would be no problem. And

467
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: he feel the same way. Probably not years ago, that's

468
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: absolutely we wouldn't be uh. And And if I sat

469
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: down and talk to Gagst, I tell gays of one

470
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: story and he'll remember it like it was yesterday. The

471
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: beef that we had. It was a straight okay corral incident.

472
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: And I bet you're here say that was you. I'm saying,

473
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: motherfucking and I bet you here remember it. I don't

474
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: have no problems with that, dude. Did you have any

475
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: girlfriends that were ever from in hood Santana or Atlantic?

476
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: Every female south Side baby mama from your baby mama

477
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: from south Side. I've talked to other females, different females

478
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: from different hoods, but never to come on. I need

479
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: to come on to the path now where your two

480
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: other baby mamas from one is south Side, My oldest

481
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: mama John is from Hoover one o seven and my

482
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: other son, my baby boy mama is I'm thinking about.

483
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: I don't never remember you mess with anybody from Luther's

484
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: mom area. Never never, That's my point. They don't mess

485
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: with But this is my family. Don't lose too many

486
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: niggs that marry somebody and all of them well they

487
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: pills and was different. She moved a girl in from

488
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: spaky old woman, remember that from from shut them off.

489
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: My whole thing was I was different from everybody. I

490
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: don't want a chicken the hood. If I did with

491
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: a chicken the hood, I don't bring nothing from the

492
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: outside to my house because I already know how it's

493
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 1: gonna be. So I didn't miss my business with what pleasure?

494
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: Should I say? So? I never dealt with a female

495
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: from the MiB All My business was outside of that.

496
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: When when I left the hood and did my baby

497
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: mama's are that chick? I did that and left it there.

498
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: When my baby mama wanted to come to the hood,

499
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: she kicked it with silver. You none them, Cynthia, none,

500
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: all of them. She was cool with all of them. Now,

501
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: your baby, your first baby mama was from south Side,

502
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: from moving from but the one house from south Side?

503
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: Was she living in south Side? When you was dating her?

504
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: She lived on California Street right now? Still? Yeah? And

505
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: how how would you move differently when you would go

506
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: visit her? Or how often would you visit her? I've

507
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: been over there in my Cadillac. I've been over there.

508
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: I had a seventy seven calac white Rams the whole time.

509
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: I had a a blue station wagon. I had a

510
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: Burgundy Maximum. They never said ship to me. They never

511
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: said Keithie d and Paula was living right across the

512
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: street on California, So I never never had to beat

513
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: for none of them. Paula and and and Pam was

514
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: like this, best friends, best friends, So I never had

515
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: I never had a problem going over there because I

516
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: was always ready for the timeline on it, on the

517
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: dates and stuff, because you know, like what year this was,

518
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: I ain't good with. This is your second baby mama

519
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: from Southside, right, Yeah, what years did you start dating her?

520
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: I started dating Pam and not even two, so this

521
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: is before all the baby lane and all of that

522
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: stuff went down. But when you was dating your first

523
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: baby mama, that was in the seventies. She was from Hoover,

524
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: but she was living on a hundred eighteenth in Saint

525
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: Pedro in the East Coast. And would you have to

526
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: be extra careful going over there to the Hoovers. Yeah,

527
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: I never really I never really dealt with the Hoovers

528
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: hood on Lean Street. I ran into the Hoovers and

529
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: then on ninty eighth and figure roar over my cousin

530
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: Tony and Tracy. My cousin Tracy, she was a Hoover

531
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: one on seven and and and even hanging with the

532
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: who was Marcus and Calvin and Chris uh which is

533
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: calbo Um. Archie Archie is from live over there by Ninnie,

534
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: Remember Archie. Okay, Archie still over there. We're hanging with them.

535
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: We even in My My My Dogs Rest in Peace.

536
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: Moon from Raymond, Raymond Avenue, crips and Moon and Tracy

537
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: was my rid of dies. Back in the day. We

538
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: were stilling cars and doing crazy ship meeting up on

539
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: nine and bigger role, I can tell you. In the

540
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: mid eighties, one of the biggest dope dealers from Watts

541
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: lived in our little right cold street from my grandmother

542
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: what's little next door to James and now the boy

543
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: with the gates and all that. Yeah, the biggest, I mean,

544
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: the great, great shot was Great Street. And then so

545
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: it happened you know where it happens where you know

546
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: you don't be respecial, start coming you don't. You don't

547
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: because MC if you ever see him again and talk

548
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: to him, he moved in the hood. But when he

549
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: moved in the hood, it was said that m C

550
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: a moving in the hood and he cripping in woolo

551
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: woo woo. Okay. As soon as he moved in, robbed

552
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: his name bringing his ship and down. He had a

553
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: told Chuck if he be honest with the ship, he

554
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: had a toad, I mean you haul come in. He

555
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: had you all go out. He didn't stay to stay

556
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: long at all, and he wouldn't he wouldn't have made it.

557
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: So he tried to move into my part room. The

558
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: girls used to good thing and you try to go

559
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: on your mama tell you too, nigger, this is where

560
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: we're going. This is what we're moving on. I don't

561
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: understand those gangs something with all of that, there would

562
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: be a lot of that. Now, did you receive any

563
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: backlash from your homies when they found out you was

564
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: dating Pam from South Side? Did they say why are

565
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: you doing that? Every last one of them cast loved her.

566
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: I gave a party Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Last

567
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: one of the hoies, uh embraced Pam as as as

568
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: one of theirs. They respect of respecting me cool, they

569
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: gave her respect because when the females are one female

570
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: in particular guy that Pam on some female. Pam got

571
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: in that ass, mop that ass up on the car

572
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: and ain't none of him. I ain't working with her.

573
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: And they left Pam along. Pam got to respect Pam

574
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: did Pam. So it was it was good like that

575
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: her people Hawk and you know from south Side come

576
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: through this your people, there's my people. And I respected

577
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: them just like that. So you actually had some south

578
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: Side cribs come to your house during events of parties. Yeah, hug,

579
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: this was her play brother whomever she wanted him to

580
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: be or whatever. But I embraced him like you know,

581
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: as if Okay, that's who it is, that's who he is.

582
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, but you know they

583
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: wasn't coming over there when blues respect, but they were.

584
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I let everybody know, just whoop

585
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: the woof from south Side. Nobody fun with him? Oh no,

586
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: he's good. Let's drink. Like when I went to the

587
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Hoovers and I'm sitting here kicking it with with my

588
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: homies from the Hoovers and we're sitting there, they're playing dominoes.

589
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: It's the hormeboy with the from my par rules and

590
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: this is what's going down. Woo woo. And I was cool.

591
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: I should didn't play dominoes. And every now and then

592
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: then you have some problems and when you have some

593
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: gunplayer or something like that, and then they go for

594
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: a minute. It's still kind of risky, though, don't you think,

595
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: because you never know. Even though these these Hoovers are

596
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: cool with you, or these south Sides are cool with you,

597
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: there's always another person that presents themselves and that's the

598
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: person you don't know. You've never seen him before, and

599
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: that's why you never underst made anybody. You're still ready.

600
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm always packed, and that's why you still be ready.

601
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: If you feel uncomfortable on your surroundings, then you get

602
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: up and bounce. That don't make you know punk. You

603
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: get up and bounce, you already know you ain't supposed

604
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: to be here now. And I gotta take the word

605
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: of this guy. He gotta have some type of credibility

606
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: with the rest of these cats, not the funk with

607
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: this dude. So if he got that reputation, and they

608
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: already know not to funk with me because they the

609
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: backlasses right here, he gonna take care of these cats

610
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: because yeah made me look like a wo woo. Now,

611
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: my nigga, get bank on my watch. Now. I gotta

612
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: answer to Whoo the whoo whoo whoo and his people.

613
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: Now have you ever known the game member that isolated

614
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: him and herself so much to where they would say, now,

615
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going over there, even though I got assisted note,

616
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I ain't going over there. A lot of them, Yeah,

617
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: a lot of them, because I mean, you got something

618
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: that just really don't care. You got something that's okay,

619
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust you, and you got something that just

620
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: really no and really don't give a fun if in

621
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: a boux to show you I ain't I don't know,

622
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: bit ship, I'm fronna roll with you because I ain't

623
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: scared this road. Some of fuckers ain't built like that.

624
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: So they decline we were moving out. Yeah, well, before

625
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: we wrap up the show, you guys have announcement to make,

626
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna turn the mic over the Reggie. Yeah yeah, yeah.

627
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: So we got uh my boy Nick nick Non over

628
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: from the Australia. So you people over there in Australia, morb,

629
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: James is going to be coming James McDonald, I apologize,

630
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: James is going to be coming over to uh Australia

631
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: this summer and um him and Great Katis. They're gonna

632
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: call it a show called The Night with Great Katis

633
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: and We're gonna have a boy Nick coming promoted and

634
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: and tell ya how y'all can register and sign up

635
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: and coming and and and here Marb and here James talking,

636
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: tell all these stories. And because you just keep you

637
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: not that you're doing that shows he did take over today. Huh.

638
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: I got you because I gotta be redg every time,

639
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: because he turned his back on me all the time.

640
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: Every time I say something wrong or whatever is either

641
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: like this or he turned his back and like, why

642
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: do you keep trying your back on me? Why said

643
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: something wrong? Just tell me that's wrong wrong? Okay, So Nick,

644
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: you're from Australia. Huh from Australia. Massive death Row records fan.

645
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: I love love for Reggie and how do you look

646
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: up with these fellows? Well, I mean I've always loved Reggie,

647
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's a straight up cat.

648
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of his. Always held a dawn

649
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: with't even always will Mom James. I reached out to

650
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: last year after the flat TV stuff went off and

651
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Massy Beak found in Mob James. Mob James and I

652
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: met last week for the first time face to face,

653
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: and we kicked it for four hours. We ship tiss.

654
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: He cried like five times, just a table getting drunk.

655
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: As we were know, I was thinking drinking Jack Daniels,

656
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't drink overage, dragging water. Let

657
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: me say this, uh, my my history, my life, just

658
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: growing up or whatever. We touched on some of that

659
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: growing up with mom, pops and all of this, and

660
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: I don't they never been in my shoes like that,

661
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: never had father that you know, and then just listening

662
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: to my story and it kind of got touchy. So

663
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: one thing abottom is that that I appreciated these guys

664
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: for for calling me. You know what I'm saying, Um,

665
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad, you know, just reaching out to me and saying, Okay,

666
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: you got a story. I want to hear it. And

667
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: then then wanted me to be a part of the

668
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: project to say, you can bring a lot to the

669
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: story that we're trying to tell. So I welcome all

670
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying, And it was

671
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: important for me to tell my story and and to

672
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: have people like this listen. That's why I wouldn't say

673
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: nothing for a long time. I wouldn't even speak on

674
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: the death row and my my brother or anything because

675
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: I felt that I don't want to have to suck

676
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: more for telling me they don't want to hear that ship.

677
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: That ship is old. So just them talking to me

678
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: and listening. And then the feedback I got from from

679
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: my conversations with them was so it was just like

680
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: great and and I've been talking to him every since

681
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: I met him the other day, had a ball. We're

682
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: sitting here at this Sierra golf club. And when I

683
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: walked in, I gave him these death Row shirts, two shirts,

684
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: and he just took his shirt off and put on

685
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: this Death Row shirt and he's white. Yeah, people looking like,

686
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: what the hell this this here? So when I walked in,

687
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: I felt out of place. And then when he changed

688
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: his shirt, I felt like whoa, And they think we're

689
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: game bankers and ship now. But I'm gonna I'm gonna

690
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: let nick, I said, what's going on so we can

691
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: get out of here. You have an event that's related

692
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: to former l ap D officer Greg Hating. Yeah, so

693
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: Greg Hating and I are doing a project, particularly on

694
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: the murders of Tupac and Notorious blog. Do you think

695
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: that has been done like too much? Now? What can

696
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: you add different that hasn't already been done. As James

697
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: was saying before, this is gonna be a speaking to

698
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: her where people can actually get up there and have

699
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: their questions. So Greg, Katie's gonna take you right through.

700
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,959
Speaker 1: He's going to talk about some stuff that he hasn't

701
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: released before. He's going to talk about some stuff in

702
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: the investigation that's you know, that he hasn't spoke about,

703
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: and he's going to bring that Wayne. Greg and I

704
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: were having a look at all these different ideas where

705
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: are like, you know what, We're going to get some

706
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: brothers out there. They can give some real life stories

707
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: from death roll records. He was tossing up different ideas

708
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, bolm, I got the guy. And

709
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: that's when I thought mob James after seeing flat TV

710
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: and that. So it goes for about two and a

711
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 1: half hours. The show, Greg's Gregg's presentation is for two hours.

712
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: But Greg's never done this presentation to a live audience,

713
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So he's never done a

714
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: live audience show. And then obviously at the last part

715
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: of the show, it's a question and answer, you know

716
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we can talk to people. People

717
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: in the crowd can ask James their questions about time

718
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: on death Roll records under SUGU night and obviously being

719
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas when Tupuc was tragically murdered. So how

720
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: did you hook up? Would former LPD officer Greg Katie.

721
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: Greg I reached out to about two thousand and ten,

722
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: and then I was doing some stuff around that around

723
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: about probably two thousand eleven, two thousand and twelve. Greg

724
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: was going to do this in Europe around about six

725
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: months ago. And then obviously he said I know the

726
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: person because I know Death Row records like the back

727
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: of my hand. Is that right? Yeah? I know everything,

728
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: asked Reggie, can we do some trivia real quick? No?

729
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: All right, so go ahead and tell on about the

730
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: event and yeah, Special Night the Murders of Tupacing Biggie

731
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: Presentation A night with Greg Katie but special guests former

732
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Death Row Record street Security Mob, James McDonald MacDonald, James

733
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: McDonald coming down to Australia. Get your tickets on as

734
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Takes dot com and look after it's gonna be a

735
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: good show. Full cities perf Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane in

736
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: July August this winner get ready say the website again

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Speaker 1: as tis dot com. Can you spell that? O z

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Speaker 1: t i X dot com dot au four five dollars

739
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: two and a half. Music component. Got a good DJ

740
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: out there, Shout out to my brother DJ Melaci. We're

741
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: only gonna be playing death Row Records, a little bit

742
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: of bad Boy and we're taking people back. It's a

743
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: musical component to Alex that not you know what I mean.

744
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: So it's really really good. But I just can't wait

745
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: to get this brother down in down in Australia. It's

746
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: gonna be fantastic. Man, wait to go. I'm me alligator.

747
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: I wish I can go. That's a place I definitely

748
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: want to visit. But I love to have you Alex.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna conclude this episode of The Gangster Chronicles. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank everyone for downloading, listening, and for submitting

751
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: your questions. And please go to the Instagram page at

752
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles, go to the Facebook page Gangster Chronicles, and

753
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: make sure you check out my latest interview on Street TV.

754
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Good night, good afternoon, and good morning. This has been

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Speaker 1: a digital so much network production