Speaker 1: The boys. I'm sitting here with my co host, not
Speaker 1: tell the one. My man is in camp right now.
Speaker 1: We had an emergency kind of pod Michael Chandler. We
Speaker 1: had a separate podcast with him that'll drop later on,
Speaker 1: but Michael Chandler's my co host right now, and he
Speaker 1: he hooked it up with Brendan Shaub. Proud of you, man,
Speaker 1: you crushed the proud you crushed it too.
Speaker 2: No, you did a good job, man, you got a
Speaker 2: good freaking I was a good report with a freaking.
Speaker 1: Awesome dude. Yeah, with the fucking shop dude. We had
Speaker 1: him on the Fighter and the kid is in the
Speaker 1: fucking notebook as like somebody too that we want to
Speaker 1: match our podcasting about, like with.
Speaker 2: Him being on here for only three days and being
Speaker 2: willing to do that at the drop of the hat.
Speaker 1: And it was not a.
Speaker 2: Favor for his boy, Like I said, it's not like
Speaker 2: Brendan shaup owed me a favor or we're boys.
Speaker 1: He was just like, I'll do it. That's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, let's do it. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know that guy, don't know the podcast, but
Speaker 1: I'll do it. Like that's that's really no. But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying for him to to talk about him
Speaker 2: hitting his character and then meet you after thirty minutes and.
Speaker 1: Be like, you know, man, I'll help you out.
Speaker 2: This is this is That's what the world needs because
Speaker 2: he he understands how hard it is to make it
Speaker 2: and you you can only you're only as good as
Speaker 2: the connections that you can make and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's it's cool, man, It's a real it's a
Speaker 1: real dude right there. Yeah. When he dapped me up,
Speaker 1: it was like, Yo, seriously, get my number. That's cool. Whatever, men,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you need whatever mentoring. He's like, I
Speaker 1: got you Like a lot of people helped me out
Speaker 1: and I will be more than willing to help you out.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this that's fucking awesome, dude. You
Speaker 1: know he he has a background. He was in Ultimate
Speaker 1: Fighter season ten. He played college ball at Colorado, went
Speaker 1: had a short stand with the Buffalo Bills. He was
Speaker 1: just a training camp guy. He was like a camp body,
Speaker 1: as we say. He got cut there and realized football
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be his calling. He got into slinging supplements
Speaker 1: door to door and fighting at nighttime, doing Brazilian jiu jitsu,
Speaker 1: and then realized his buddy got him into uh, got
Speaker 1: a into fighting, signed him up for fighting. He got
Speaker 1: in a UFC MMA, won the Golden Gloves, and then
Speaker 1: he realized like he was gonna get on the Ultimate
Speaker 1: Fighter Season ten, the one with Kimbo Slice and Ron
Speaker 1: not Ron Nelson, Roy Nelson uh and killed it that
Speaker 1: that lost in the finals, but anyway, signed his deal
Speaker 1: with UFC. Was fighting in the UFC for a little bit,
Speaker 1: helped me out if I missed anything. Was in UFC
Speaker 1: for I don't know how long. I think he went fifteen,
Speaker 1: ten and five. Yeah, was rated in what the top ten,
Speaker 1: top fifteen heavyweights in the fucking world, and then realized
Speaker 1: he wanted to walk away on his own terms, that
Speaker 1: he didn't need to fight, that he was he was
Speaker 1: doing better off off the ring, out of the ring,
Speaker 1: so to speaker for me, off the field, he's kind
Speaker 1: of a guy who I look up to and kind
Speaker 1: of resonate with because again, he was a pro athlete.
Speaker 1: He's one of those smarter you know, not that I'm
Speaker 1: called myself smarter, but I am smarter. He's one of
Speaker 1: those smarter athletes like we both are fucking Chandler over here.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of shit going on, but a
Speaker 1: smarter athlete that likes to have things that go on
Speaker 1: off the field, out of the ring. And he kind
Speaker 1: of transitioned and have some pivotal moments in his life
Speaker 1: that he talks about where he goes from fighting to
Speaker 1: podcasting to entertaining and now he's a stand up comedian.
Speaker 1: He's got a special out call. What's a special called
Speaker 1: it is? You'd be surprised, You'd be surprised, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: On showtime you can check out a special. He's part
Speaker 1: of the Fighter and the Kid podcast, blow the Belt
Speaker 1: with Brendanshaw podcast and also King in the Sting with
Speaker 1: Theo Vaughn and these guys. These podcasts are written down
Speaker 1: in my notebook for Taylor and I on podcasts, we
Speaker 1: want our shit to mimic and his is one of them.
Speaker 1: So having him on is, you know, is unreal for
Speaker 1: me As we talked about his fucking life and all
Speaker 1: these transitional points. His transition when when his best friend and.
Speaker 2: Worldwide celebrity Joe Rogan literally tells him you're not good
Speaker 2: enough to keep fighting.
Speaker 1: A few days after he fought his last fight. He's
Speaker 1: on Joe Rogan's episode.
Speaker 2: Millions of people watching you get berated by the best
Speaker 2: analysts in mixed martial arts history, Joe Rogan, and he's
Speaker 2: a good friend of yours, and he talks about.
Speaker 1: Saying there's saying there's a there's a bridge between great
Speaker 1: and then there's you, and I never know if you'll
Speaker 1: cross the bridge. It's just that you can go watch
Speaker 1: that episode. You can just see well, and that's and
Speaker 1: that's also too.
Speaker 2: That's I feel like that was one of the pivotal
Speaker 2: moments of his of his life. Do you continue to
Speaker 2: move forward with the career or do you listen to
Speaker 2: your best friend. You're being publicly humiliated in front of
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of people and then millions and millions
Speaker 2: of downloads later.
Speaker 1: So it's a hold that don't even say that because
Speaker 1: we can talk about that, because you fucking you always
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Speaker 3: We have a nice little line, did you get because
Speaker 3: he's in Jacksonville?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he grew up in Nashville. And so I
Speaker 1: had one with our safety Kevin Bayern. He's a stud
Speaker 1: and they all work out together. And I know, like Taylor,
Speaker 1: Taylor's usually here. He's in camp right now. Yeah, the big,
Speaker 1: the big motherfucker how big?
Speaker 3: If he's a left us you know, yeah, he's white.
Speaker 1: What what is he? Matt? Matt six seven, he's three ten.
Speaker 1: He's lean man, he's leaning me lean six six. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, people think those old linemen are fat. There You
Speaker 3: ever seen Todd Stuucy Yeah, yeah, dude, he was fucking yea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in camp right now, sweating his balls off,
Speaker 1: fucking grinding. Camps a different animal.
Speaker 3: Dude, camp a different animal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm waiting right now. But I'm actually I'm actually,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say glad, but it's nice to
Speaker 1: like have not have all that wear and tear on
Speaker 1: your body.
Speaker 3: Because you've been in how many camps?
Speaker 1: Uh? This one would be my seventh. So I've went
Speaker 1: six year straight with those, five with the Redskins, one
Speaker 1: with the Titans, and this is kind of the first
Speaker 1: time you're getting I'm getting close to thirty white undrafted,
Speaker 1: you know, undrafted white boy playing lineback. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, dude, And UHG, you're kind of going through
Speaker 1: it to where I know what, I know what I
Speaker 1: am like, I know I can ball, I know I
Speaker 1: can play, and you're just waiting for somebody, a young
Speaker 1: guy to not work out, or a veteran to go
Speaker 1: down to where they need a savage or you know,
Speaker 1: a savvy mercenary vet to come in and plug and play.
Speaker 3: Right away and just have to worry about it.
Speaker 4: Right, People don't and I'm sure your listeners do, so
Speaker 4: I'm not saying anything they don't know. But a lot
Speaker 4: of people don't realize is you're this savvy VET, but
Speaker 4: you get a premium because you've been in the league
Speaker 4: so long. They can get someone who's younger for cheaper
Speaker 4: half the price the price and put them in. It's
Speaker 4: a such a vicious cycle.
Speaker 1: Right because if I if at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I'm a depth player in their eyes, then they're gonna
Speaker 1: find a young, cheap, depth depth player that can play
Speaker 1: special teams for at the price. Because it's all about
Speaker 1: the bottle to him right right, unless they have a need.
Speaker 1: Then they'll be like, yo, you know, call.
Speaker 3: So so so did you get released or your contract?
Speaker 1: My contract was up, so I went. I went five
Speaker 1: with those Skins. I signed a one year deal with
Speaker 1: the Titans, and then now I'm a free agent and
Speaker 1: I've had about six six teams called for like the
Speaker 1: you know, they want to bring in a few guys
Speaker 1: to try out, and we're kind of just like, you know, thanks,
Speaker 1: but no thanks, Like we'll wait for really the opportunity
Speaker 1: to wait for the right instead of like instead of
Speaker 1: me needing to go be on a ninety man roster
Speaker 1: and grind it out and try to compete to get
Speaker 1: on the roster and go through all these you want
Speaker 1: to fucking hard days. You want a situation to work
Speaker 1: out for you to where it's like we all know
Speaker 1: what comps about, call and bring them in because I
Speaker 1: could come in. You know, those guys can come in
Speaker 1: on like August twenty fifth and be ready to go
Speaker 1: on September first, for sure. So that's kind of the game.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the game.
Speaker 4: I'm staying in shape and chilling podcasting and yeah thing, yeah,
Speaker 4: good for.
Speaker 1: You fucking uh man. I was talking about some of
Speaker 1: us wake up early to prepare for like this podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: say bro, fuck you. I was up at five forty
Speaker 1: five trying to work out so then I can prepare
Speaker 1: for the podcact.
Speaker 3: But and so you were undrafted. Have you been smart
Speaker 3: with your money? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm definitely more of a a
Speaker 1: frugal person. I like to I like to call myself
Speaker 1: the Walmart athlete of the Year. Oh interesting, So I'll
Speaker 1: get the wolf tea's going on buying from Walmart seven
Speaker 1: bucks of pop. Shout out Walmart and just shout to Walmart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: slinging ice latte and just live the dream.
Speaker 3: You're doing the podcast, which is smart. Have you thought
Speaker 3: what you want to do after?
Speaker 1: I'm dabbling in real estate the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: so I've really I had a list frank surgery, not surgery.
Speaker 1: I had a list frank injury two years ago when
Speaker 1: I was with the Skins. And so I was on
Speaker 1: IR for like the last ten weeks, and I can
Speaker 1: only play fucking video games for so long. And I'm
Speaker 1: like one of those guys when I'm listening to podcasts,
Speaker 1: I'm just fucking my mind starts going everywhere. So I
Speaker 1: started listening to Bigger Pockets podcasts, which is all real estate,
Speaker 1: and so I started buying books, listening to pods and
Speaker 1: getting inspired by that, and I'm like, yo, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start doing this. So trying to make connections when you're
Speaker 1: you know, as an athlete and doing what you do now,
Speaker 1: your jokes are funnier, you're better looking. So while that's
Speaker 1: happening while I'm an athlete, I'm gonna try to shake
Speaker 1: the right hands and meet the right people. So smart
Speaker 1: I've been trying to do that, and then I've kind
Speaker 1: of just thought of you know, Taylor and I got
Speaker 1: into podcasting last year. When I got here, we were
Speaker 1: talking about this. He was asking me about all the
Speaker 1: recovery performance stuff that I weirdly do because I get
Speaker 1: from Ben Greenfield and I got I learned through him
Speaker 1: through Joe's podcast. Yeah, and then we were kind of
Speaker 1: gotten calming the Joe Rogan pot and he's like, have
Speaker 1: you listened to the Alex Lewis one? The first one?
Speaker 1: I'm like no, So he sends me that and we
Speaker 1: kind of start to get to know each other through
Speaker 1: the podcasting World and doing the recovery stuff, and then
Speaker 1: we were like, I wanted to do a podcast for
Speaker 1: a long time. You guys are fucking one of them fighting,
Speaker 1: the kid d'aliah, fucking joe Ben Greenfield, Yeah, that whole circle.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I'm gonna pull a trick
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and he was like, Yo, let's fucking
Speaker 1: do it. Like, let's go all in. So we waited
Speaker 1: all off season, found this beautiful bus.
Speaker 3: It's so cool.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, and we just been I don't know it
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in. We might have it together,
Speaker 1: but we've just been fucking grinding.
Speaker 3: That's not how podcast is, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how did it suffer for you? You?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: I know you did it while you were fighting. You
Speaker 1: started it while you're fighting. That's what I thought was
Speaker 1: unique for Taylor and I is nobody really does it
Speaker 1: while they're.
Speaker 4: Playing no No, But the only difference is, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: I did it when I was fighting because I linked
Speaker 4: up with Brian Callen, who he had his own podcasts
Speaker 4: and then it had like twenty listeners.
Speaker 3: Wasn't going good, but.
Speaker 4: Then he brought me in and then me and him
Speaker 4: had this weird chemistry and I was fighting at the time.
Speaker 3: He's like, dude, let's do this once a week. We'll
Speaker 3: call it Fighter and the Kid.
Speaker 4: We'll do it once a week. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 4: want to do that. I go just break down fighting. No,
Speaker 4: you can talk about whatever. I went, all right, I'm
Speaker 4: down if it's like a lifestyle podcast we're doing in
Speaker 4: his garage. Kept doing it, kept doing it. Then Fox
Speaker 4: was trying to acquire podcasts. They reached out to us,
Speaker 4: so we took the show over to Fox, even.
Speaker 3: Though I still owned everything.
Speaker 4: We would license it to Fox and then just started
Speaker 4: getting getting ground.
Speaker 3: And I remember I was fighting.
Speaker 4: I think he was andre or Lovsk, You're some big,
Speaker 4: big fight in Vancouver, and I'm I'm in the airport
Speaker 4: and the TSA guys like you're not waiting. You're my
Speaker 4: favorite podcast man. I'm like, oh, this is a podcaster.
Speaker 4: Now you ready for the fight. He's like, what are
Speaker 4: you talking about? But he had no idea about my fight.
Speaker 4: He knew about the podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then yeah, the cross and then it started
Speaker 3: gaining a lot of legs.
Speaker 4: And then I remember, you know it is when especially
Speaker 4: back in the day before Reebok in the UFC, you
Speaker 4: could wear whatever you want. And I had all these
Speaker 4: offers to wear shirts for my walking Ferilofski and I
Speaker 4: I love making shirts for the podcast, and I made
Speaker 4: an Abbot Kenny Fight Club shirt.
Speaker 3: You made it, I made it, and so I wore
Speaker 3: that in my walkout.
Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, no, I'm just gonna wear
Speaker 4: my ounting. And I remember my managers like, dude, you
Speaker 4: get like twenty g's. I'm like, no, no, it's gonna I'm
Speaker 4: gonna invest in this, man, I'm just gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 4: wear this. And we sold so many shirts from that,
Speaker 4: and then it just started gain ground.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's forward thinking man, instead of instead of just
Speaker 2: taking the low hanging fruit, instead of just being a
Speaker 2: a yes man, listening to your manager doing whatever, realizing
Speaker 2: that you can make an investment and your wealth.
Speaker 4: I was fortunate because you know, the goal is to
Speaker 4: be freaking Tony Gonzalz in the NFL. And then I
Speaker 4: get invited a training camp after playing college ball to
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills. I'm like, this is it, man, I'm
Speaker 4: Steve Tasker. You know, I didn't realize the game. And
Speaker 4: I get there, I'm like, oh, oh, they don't know
Speaker 4: my name. I got one rep.
Speaker 3: The dude who got drafted got thirty and like white boy,
Speaker 3: get in there, I got route. I dropped like the
Speaker 3: fuck out and then I get caught and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I didn't even get a chance.
Speaker 1: To People don't I want to talk about that for
Speaker 1: a scenting. People don't get like those guys who come
Speaker 1: in undrafted free agent and you and in our minds
Speaker 1: were like our coaches, they're gonna know us the way
Speaker 1: our coaches at Colorado at Nebraska know us. And it's
Speaker 1: gonna be they're gonna know them. You know, a little
Speaker 1: stud savvy, smart work, hard, high motor, all the white
Speaker 1: intangibles you get yep, smart ya firstad, last out, good,
Speaker 1: good motor. And we're thinking, all, yo, I'm fucking tired
Speaker 1: out there. But uh then you get in there and
Speaker 1: you realize, Yo, they don't they don't fucking give.
Speaker 3: A ship your body.
Speaker 1: Son.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're all.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing forty six, Alfred Morris's number, who's a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl running back, And it's just like the writings on
Speaker 1: the wall, like yo, will you're just here for to
Speaker 1: help London Fletcher not practice correct like you said they
Speaker 1: didn't even know your name. Oh they didn't know, don't
Speaker 1: They don't give a ship, dude. You messed up once.
Speaker 4: Oh I was out, Dude, it broke my heart. That
Speaker 4: was my first kind of because college was cutthroat, but
Speaker 4: it was a good time.
Speaker 3: We having fun. Know, at the NFL, it was like
Speaker 3: once you see it's like a meat factory. Dude.
Speaker 4: I became super jaded. Then when I got to the UFC,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is better. And then you learn
Speaker 4: like the underbellies of fighting, which is super dark.
Speaker 3: And then I was just like, what is happening man?
Speaker 3: Or even I'm too sensitive for this?
Speaker 1: Ye, no doubt, dude, Like you're just thinking broke my heart?
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: The same well, the same mentality too, where you talk about,
Speaker 2: oh you don't want to do it. We we'll find
Speaker 2: the next seven guys that'll do it for cheaper.
Speaker 4: Oh, UFC man, you if you want to get I
Speaker 4: wish I would have recorded it if you want a
Speaker 4: good time. My managers negotiating my contract that for a
Speaker 4: big win, and I will let me hear it. Like
Speaker 4: the business side of things I wanted to learn, like
Speaker 4: the age and stuff. And he's talking to Joe Silvan
Speaker 4: and he goes, you sure you want to hear this?
Speaker 3: You don't want to hear it? And he put on speaker.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's what I think.
Speaker 4: That's because he was like, hey man, he's gonna need
Speaker 4: eighty and eighties, like eighty.
Speaker 3: Fuck that guy, he's ship.
Speaker 1: And he goes through your whole like career wins, all
Speaker 1: your wins were good enough, turn off, turn off, get
Speaker 1: the speaker button.
Speaker 3: I was so depressed after that.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, man, bro that the world of
Speaker 1: like sportsman. Like everybody's like, oh, it's the NFL what
Speaker 1: you thought it was in some in some cases yeah,
Speaker 1: some sense of the world, yes, But it's also like
Speaker 1: like you know, you know if when you get kind
Speaker 1: of done wrong or you feel jaded, yeah, you get
Speaker 1: a little salty about it. You just start to realize that, yo,
Speaker 1: this is not what the fuck I thought it probably
Speaker 1: would be.
Speaker 3: And I used to have kind of anger to not
Speaker 3: so much the NFL. I'm not I get it. I
Speaker 3: get it. I'm not fucking you know what buffalo bells
Speaker 3: when I got on the planet. I get it. I'll
Speaker 3: see guys later. Totally get it. Man. See on the
Speaker 3: other side.
Speaker 4: Uh with the UFC for the longest time at the
Speaker 4: biggest chip on my shoulder, and that's what fueled everything
Speaker 4: I was doing at the time. I would go on
Speaker 4: these rants on finding the kid and just all this
Speaker 4: great against Reeboch and it it kind of builded it
Speaker 4: whatever it is where they thought I was the anti
Speaker 4: UFC guy and which I'm not.
Speaker 3: But I was just coming from the heartman, and I
Speaker 3: was spitting venom. But it was building this fan base
Speaker 3: and people like the truth and how raw it was
Speaker 3: and no one was talking like that, and people are
Speaker 3: at the UFC employees love me. Everyone loved me there.
Speaker 4: And I'd get text from employees like you need to
Speaker 4: chill out, man, I'm telling you, and they're like you're
Speaker 4: gonna lose this, You're gonna and I'm like I don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck, Like really, I'm like, I don't cut me, man,
Speaker 4: cut me.
Speaker 3: See what happens.
Speaker 4: And I wanted that turmoil at the time is toxic, man,
Speaker 4: But it was tough for me to I was so
Speaker 4: stressed out.
Speaker 3: But it built the fan base. Man.
Speaker 1: Why did that go on? Though? Like? Why were you
Speaker 1: why would you get so salty? I would get I
Speaker 1: get or why would you? Why'd you feel so Jada
Speaker 1: to where you were like, wanted the bag? Now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you know, i'mnna.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Because the Rebok deal, I felt like we're being bullied
Speaker 4: into it, and I was making six figures off sponsors,
Speaker 4: and then the UFC went Nope, not anymore.
Speaker 3: Now you're gonna make ten thousand a fight, and I went, well,
Speaker 3: that's not fair, man. So I was super upset.
Speaker 4: And then there was some kind of behind the scenes
Speaker 4: things with Dana and other stuff where I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this this isn't cool, man, and I just went and
Speaker 4: then I had a microphone and freaking you know, did
Speaker 4: the eight mile thing and just went fucking nuts on that.
Speaker 4: And then it was kind of how people were like,
Speaker 4: I like this, man. And then eventually I was just like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is this is good for me, this is this
Speaker 4: is what I.
Speaker 3: Want to do. Man.
Speaker 4: But that but now that I'm older and I guess
Speaker 4: I've had the success I've had, I looked back.
Speaker 3: I'm like Jesus Christ relaxed dude, like.
Speaker 4: Data when Dana was making Yeah, when Day was making
Speaker 4: the Rebok deal, he was like, how's this gonna affect
Speaker 4: Brendon Chop. It's like, fuck him? How Like they're not
Speaker 4: even thinking of you? Man, You're again, You're not that important.
Speaker 4: You made the deal that's best for the brand and
Speaker 4: for his business, not me. So now like I have
Speaker 4: no issues with him, I have zero issues with him.
Speaker 4: I zero issues with the UFC. I used to talk
Speaker 4: negative about either my football career or my fight career.
Speaker 3: I don't. It's all good, man, it's all good.
Speaker 1: Yeah perspective, dude, do you go through any of that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, well, I mean talk about it.
Speaker 1: But he said eight mile course you only go Acapella
Speaker 1: there you go. No, I mean I have too. And
Speaker 1: it's and it's.
Speaker 2: Affected your fight career too, which is tough because you
Speaker 2: have a contract dispute, or you feel like you're not
Speaker 2: making the money that you should make, or they said
Speaker 2: this or they said that, or you want to you
Speaker 2: just you think you deserve a certain matchup and you
Speaker 2: don't or this, that and the other thing, and it
Speaker 2: can eat it you mentally.
Speaker 1: And you could sit there and just stew and stew
Speaker 1: and stew and you're so mad at them.
Speaker 2: You're mad at that face, that person that heartbeat that entity,
Speaker 2: and really it does nothing but self sabotage, you know,
Speaker 2: and you go out there and you fight horribly. You
Speaker 2: fight outside of your strengths, You fight out, you play
Speaker 2: into your weaknesses, you fight emotional, you lose a fight,
Speaker 2: and then you get done. You look back and think, man,
Speaker 2: all I did was drink the poison and expected the
Speaker 2: promoters to be the.
Speaker 1: Ones that were negatively affected.
Speaker 2: And it's and I've gone through that numerous times in
Speaker 2: my career, but for the most part, I've been happy.
Speaker 1: But it's it's hard, it's it's a tough.
Speaker 4: But what I think is funny in fighting is listen,
Speaker 4: in fighting, comparable the athletes to the NFL and college
Speaker 4: it's not even close. I mean that the athletes that
Speaker 4: are Nebraska, University, Colorado, Alabama, Ohio State compared to the
Speaker 4: athletes in the UFC, you're talking apples and avocados. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's alsosly a different, tangible, different skill set. But the
Speaker 4: level of competition at those big time division in schools
Speaker 4: in the NFL, it's the I mean you there's no
Speaker 4: room for ara men zero.
Speaker 3: We're in the UFC. I was, you know, I got
Speaker 3: done playing foot I was like, oh, that looks cool,
Speaker 3: I'll try. Three years later, I ranked top fifteen in
Speaker 3: the world. So in football, that's like that ain't gonna happen. Man,
Speaker 3: it's just the pool of talent, and football is so
Speaker 3: goddamn deep.
Speaker 4: Like do you watch The Last Chance You? I watched, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't get enough of it. Really the New season,
Speaker 4: the new season spoiler, they fucking suck now Coach Brown
Speaker 4: got fired.
Speaker 3: It's so great.
Speaker 1: It's I watched them on the on the head coach,
Speaker 1: and it's just like many Yeah, give the view that it's.
Speaker 3: A junior college where Jo called Independence Independence though Garden City,
Speaker 3: Fort Scott Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got some talent.
Speaker 3: So so basically they get all like the D one rejects,
Speaker 3: like these top top recruits who fucked up in big time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Then they go to Independence University Florida State, Florida State
Speaker 4: out the biggest in the world.
Speaker 3: They have the number one de tackled Juco. He's just
Speaker 3: a stud.
Speaker 4: He got a full ride to Georgia, so he gets
Speaker 4: all the guys that are fuck ups and he has
Speaker 4: to form chemistry in a year because they have one
Speaker 4: year and done. So he's trying to get it done,
Speaker 4: and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Season three
Speaker 4: it does not and it's so entertaining. They lose every game.
Speaker 3: Number one.
Speaker 5: It's the backing the dominant.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, the super dominant. And it's working because he
Speaker 3: he walks in and talks to him like he's kind
Speaker 3: of one of them. He's like, fuck you you missed
Speaker 3: that tackle. Fuck you motherfucker. Like he's getting in their face.
Speaker 4: But they're winning, so the racist town of Independence is
Speaker 4: like this is cool.
Speaker 3: Because they're all racists, like this is cool.
Speaker 4: Then they start losing and dude, they flip on him
Speaker 4: so fast, dude and gets he gets this guy's hilarious.
Speaker 4: He's on THEO Von's podcast this weekend. This is this
Speaker 4: past weekend, by the way. But uh, he gets fired
Speaker 4: because there's a German kid on the team that's no
Speaker 4: business playing football, but.
Speaker 3: He's on the team. What are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Guy?
Speaker 4: But also play soccer, so he's from Germany's they're like
Speaker 4: being he's like on the scout team, just skinning lit
Speaker 4: up and uh, the coach texts him. He's like text
Speaker 4: them like instructions and goes, I'm your new hitler.
Speaker 1: Dang oh I did see.
Speaker 3: Ral dude and he got fired for that. It's hilarious
Speaker 3: all the ship. It's the best season ever. It's such
Speaker 3: toxic chaos. I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you see it when you see it with
Speaker 2: the athletes too. They're kind of the same thing I
Speaker 2: was just talking about. I was in an awesome situation,
Speaker 2: yet I let my scenario play affect my play affect
Speaker 2: my fighting. Where you had all these kids who are like,
Speaker 2: forget this, man, there's Juco plays and like, yo, dude.
Speaker 1: You messed up.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: This is your shot to get back to where you want.
Speaker 5: Those guys have so much, so much talent, and there's
Speaker 5: so much that even in comedy man, there's there's some
Speaker 5: guys who Dude, Derek and the work at the comedy store.
Speaker 4: They're my future and opener monsters. There's guys there's so
Speaker 4: much fucking more talent than any comment you ever heard,
Speaker 4: but they're just not make they're on discipline, making the
Speaker 4: right choices.
Speaker 3: They're just it's same with football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see all these NFL guys who ever played
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but they're walking the streets in college
Speaker 1: that you that you're around, that you were around in
Speaker 1: Colorado and you're just like, man, what a they wasted their.
Speaker 4: Man where if they were just went this way, they're
Speaker 4: making millions.
Speaker 1: Right because I'm like, yo, if I'm playing this long,
Speaker 1: you know, these guys could have fucking played forever.
Speaker 3: Dude, you, I mean, you are on the grind, but
Speaker 3: the white dude therin seven years in that's a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of Missouri, boy man, Missouri.
Speaker 3: That's how you guys know each other.
Speaker 1: No, we know after but I wrestled with his brother
Speaker 1: and in high school and stuff.
Speaker 3: So you Missouri, but then you went to University of Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Yes you're a corn Husker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're supposed to each other. But you were playing Memorial.
Speaker 1: You played Memorial. How fucking rock and amazing? Man, because
Speaker 1: Colorado and Nebraska kind of now but yeah, yeah we're
Speaker 1: gonna be better. So watch it a little bit and
Speaker 1: watch it a little bit.
Speaker 3: We've both kind of fallen off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we have. We have. It used to be
Speaker 1: a real rivalry, a true rivalry, like back in the
Speaker 1: nineties and ship tom Osborne. Yeah, all those boys with
Speaker 1: Houston snort and coke in the fucking locker room before
Speaker 1: talking about the good days, the fucking real good days
Speaker 1: of football. They don't ask questions, just fucking let the
Speaker 1: guys do their thing. You know. If you guys are
Speaker 1: throwing their women downstairs, like that's not good.
Speaker 3: But they were good players, they're good.
Speaker 1: Hey, But then the coaches are they gonna get caught?
Speaker 1: There's no video footage? Yeah no, but but yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: it's a it's been fucking a blast though. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: grind man, it's fun though. Man, It's like, and you
Speaker 1: don't have kids, no, no kids, no kids.
Speaker 4: Here's a question everyone always asked me for both of you.
Speaker 4: Would you let your you have kids? Would you your
Speaker 4: kids fight when you let your kids play football? Knowing
Speaker 4: the grind because you know the business, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, for sure I would. I think about some
Speaker 1: of the brain research coming out now and some of
Speaker 1: the CT stuff that goes on, and I am conscious
Speaker 1: of that stuff. But again, like I know what I'm
Speaker 1: signing up for, but I would let I would love.
Speaker 1: I would let my kid play football if he wanted
Speaker 1: to that bad Like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell me he can't do.
Speaker 3: Here's my thing. Let's be real.
Speaker 4: Hey, So, uh, I have a three year old and
Speaker 4: I call him the Lebron James of three year olds.
Speaker 3: I post picture he's jacked.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My thing is is I've been around sports long enough.
Speaker 4: If he's like a standout, like in fifth grade, just
Speaker 4: like Barry Sanders kids like breaking ankles, I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: let's let's write this thing out.
Speaker 3: Let's get you out of the ghetto. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying ghetto meeting is that he was washing not
Speaker 3: long ago. Yeah he would so.
Speaker 4: But if he has talent, I'm like, yeah, let's let's
Speaker 4: go this route. If he's just a guy, we ain't
Speaker 4: going down that path. Man, it's too it's too hard.
Speaker 1: What path though? Like, what do you mean? Like I'm
Speaker 1: saying I would let my kid play, but after your
Speaker 1: glory days of high school are over? Like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be front money and really really trying to like
Speaker 1: lift through you to be like, oh, you know these
Speaker 1: schools are looking at him.
Speaker 3: Well, but here's the thing. Let's say plays high school
Speaker 3: and but he's a stud and he gets seven offers college,
Speaker 3: then we're going we're doing it.
Speaker 4: But if he's like Dad, I want to walk on
Speaker 4: to Ohio, stay in my name for you, brother, Yeah,
Speaker 4: not for you. Let's focus on the books. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: you know this both.
Speaker 3: You know, especially in wrestling in Missouri and playing football Nebraska.
Speaker 3: Your major is that sportman. I didn't learn ship.
Speaker 1: From C student athlete. It's athlete student.
Speaker 3: I didn't learn anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's put him in communications or general studies.
Speaker 1: And for the love of God, if I get an email, teacher,
Speaker 1: you fix it, like make sure this motherfucker is eligible.
Speaker 4: Oh hold on, we used to. They would put me
Speaker 4: in this class. They the teacher would leave the room
Speaker 4: and leave me and ten other football players with one test.
Speaker 4: She's like, between all of you, just figure it out.
Speaker 3: So it's me. So it's me with the thing, right,
Speaker 3: smartest guy in the room. Me here. They were all
Speaker 3: around like all right, A, B or C. I'd read
Speaker 3: off the answers. I'd go around the room. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't think so, and I just fill it out
Speaker 3: and we gotta see.
Speaker 1: We collectively got to see.
Speaker 3: And one was like, damn, man, what the fun really? Fatteus? Really,
Speaker 3: what the fuck is? You don't know how to spell? Chair?
Speaker 3: Really enjoy your see? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I think I'd let my son fight would you,
Speaker 1: But I mean I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: That's the one thing I have no clue on the
Speaker 2: It's it's hard because yeah, I mean I'm big on
Speaker 2: the brain research and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But I just just three guys talking ce TM.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3: We got all three of us have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 3: We should play a game who has it worse?
Speaker 1: And does something happens?
Speaker 3: Can we do some puzzles?
Speaker 1: Seriously, you took third.
Speaker 3: I tell you, I'll tell you who's gonna have it worse?
Speaker 3: Is the alignment they just banged the whole time.
Speaker 1: The whole the whole game. You got fucking guys like
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with Red me off, some outside.
Speaker 3: Backers, outside backers.
Speaker 1: Miles gay It, Khalil Mack. Fuck yeah, Christ could you
Speaker 1: imagine being there and being like a left tackle and
Speaker 1: being like, eh Ti hi to fucking go after this boy?
Speaker 3: Khalil Mack. Hey, your best friend too? No, are you
Speaker 3: fucking really his best friend? Childhood friend? He's coming here.
Speaker 1: We gotta take a selfie. D be's my boy like
Speaker 1: he's we were locker We were locker boys, and uh
Speaker 1: we always love doing the whole fucking were wolves sing
Speaker 1: and d B. D Be's my fucking boy. I should
Speaker 1: have been at his camp. I feel terribile.
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Were you at his football camp that he had? Then
Speaker 1: you're not his best friend. We better have moved back
Speaker 1: to Memphis. No, but hey, d Be's my boy.
Speaker 4: I was telling Darry I go because I you were
Speaker 4: talking about how good his boys at football?
Speaker 3: Right, like freshman All American a CC. What do you playing?
Speaker 3: Auburn amazing school?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Not a starter in the NFL. Think how much of
Speaker 3: a freak that dude? Is the level? Yeah, these fucking
Speaker 3: guys is insane. For you to be in the NFL
Speaker 3: for seven years, it's insane. I think all of you
Speaker 3: should suck rep.
Speaker 1: You know Delia's ruled. Hey, if they wear your jersey, man,
Speaker 1: I wear the jersey like they should be able to
Speaker 1: fuck you.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about wearing the jersey and I went, no,
Speaker 4: not today. I'm gonna pack someone come with your hype.
Speaker 1: You fucking know dB he really well, I'm gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna be so fucking happy. I'm gonna hug the ship
Speaker 1: out of him. That's my boy, man him the shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: might need you to need you to help the boy
Speaker 1: for a second. I've tried to buy a couple of
Speaker 1: times and it just it's this and does the loading
Speaker 1: thing for fucking every My car is not going, is it.
Speaker 1: I was wondering that because the stub Hub it says
Speaker 1: no seats are left, but on the Zany site it
Speaker 1: doesn't say it sold out, and so it just fucking
Speaker 1: sit there and load the whole time. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to buy these tickets.
Speaker 3: No, I got you guys, just dope.
Speaker 1: dB man, that's awesome. I'm hype. You gotta meet dB
Speaker 1: TV's got all the change, bro, fucking I love it.
Speaker 3: We were thinking about going to practice tomorrow, right, do
Speaker 3: a couple Nissan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice man, you're gonna get the hook up. I
Speaker 1: thought about going, but then I just feel kind of
Speaker 1: insulted sitting in the stand.
Speaker 3: Oh you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Hey, Like, I love the camaraderie, so I want to
Speaker 1: see my boys in Denbor, but don't do it.
Speaker 3: Sad dude. I'll never forget. I get cut from the
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. My best friend Joe Cloppenstein was the starting
Speaker 3: tight end from the Rams, so I get cut.
Speaker 4: He's killing it in uh Saint Louis. He makes the
Speaker 4: starting lineup, and then I go. We go to his
Speaker 4: first game, and I was in the stands crying, like.
Speaker 1: Dude, somebody was in on you on a picture and like, yeah, look.
Speaker 4: I felt like such a loser man, because you're you know,
Speaker 4: he's out there doing his thing.
Speaker 3: I'm in the stand of the foam finger with his family.
Speaker 1: They used to play. Yeah, well I just did.
Speaker 2: I just did the show a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 2: and Taylor's over here, Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl lineman. And
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I didn't know that your contact
Speaker 2: was up. I didn't know you were currently a free agent.
Speaker 2: So I figured, look, I'm next to two Titans, right,
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh yeah, and Taylor's yeah, dude, you
Speaker 2: can come to a game.
Speaker 1: We'll get your tickets. You can sit next to Will.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was on camera and I
Speaker 1: don't even know, and I just immediately start sweating, and Yo.
Speaker 1: We had our head coach on Vrabel.
Speaker 3: I loved see the man.
Speaker 1: He's the fucking man he was. He was fucking here
Speaker 1: and he talked about cutting his deck. That went viral.
Speaker 1: He cut off about cutting his deck off for a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and we had him on and those two
Speaker 1: were just fucking sure, dude. He's like, what were we
Speaker 1: talking about? What? What drug was out there? Fly flapping
Speaker 1: off or falling off that? He was like, will I
Speaker 1: sent the I sent the text out through the team?
Speaker 1: We did? I forget You're not on the team anymore.
Speaker 1: This is the head coach that can still hire me.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I can't back. Is there a chance
Speaker 1: to come back? There's a chance for it. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a chance.
Speaker 3: Do you want to?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I want to play this year? You would you
Speaker 1: rather play? Stay here and play for the Titans so
Speaker 1: you can keep Yeah? I love to, So I could
Speaker 1: do I could do this kind of stuff. Like for us,
Speaker 1: we got a backlog every episode, Like Taylor and I
Speaker 1: are like grinding day in day out. If we can
Speaker 1: rattle off two or three a day, that's what we
Speaker 1: try to aim for. And it's fucking yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just probably after you do like three
Speaker 1: stand ups in a row, you're probably just like exhaust
Speaker 1: because you only have so many jokes or stories you're
Speaker 1: thinking enough to do a pod, like so many stories
Speaker 1: that's happened on the weekend.
Speaker 4: I don't care either, like right, which probably helps by
Speaker 4: the time, I just don't care.
Speaker 3: I'm zoned out. I just don't have the energy.
Speaker 1: But us you're starting, we kind of we think about everything.
Speaker 1: We're kind of you know with the podcast, but anyway,
Speaker 1: we backlog every one. We try to get people in house.
Speaker 3: And what kind of guests do you guys aim for everything?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've had I mean who we had,
Speaker 1: you know in the NFL guys, you got Jalen what's up?
Speaker 1: Rich Frowning, We've had him on. Rich Throning, the goat
Speaker 1: at CrossFit.
Speaker 3: Don't know CrossFit, you know, come on, man, Yeah, the working.
Speaker 1: Type cross rich Thron's pictures there.
Speaker 3: He's the fucking was the best of exercise.
Speaker 1: But you know, our NFL can actually have guys sitting
Speaker 1: on the bus, you.
Speaker 3: Know, that's great, man.
Speaker 4: Everything out there not really like the Ringer does a
Speaker 4: bunch of NFL stuff. But there's not like a fun
Speaker 4: NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not one where guys are especially with your
Speaker 1: connection and don't give a ship and just kind of
Speaker 1: sit here and they don't feel with their guard up
Speaker 1: talking because he came fucking throw he threw his feet
Speaker 1: up because Taylor, he's like, he calls himself the dad
Speaker 1: of Nashville, and fucking Rabel walks and throws his feet up.
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, real, dad's here. Your daddy's here, Taylor,
Speaker 1: daddy's home, Daddy's here.
Speaker 3: He's such a beast. Yeah, I feel like he'd be
Speaker 3: great to play for. He's a players coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, he's he's a big he's a big alpha dog.
Speaker 1: He he's uh, he's the alpha. He's the Alpha.
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Rabel. Like there's nothing He's won all the
Speaker 1: he's won three Super Bowls. He plays, he's played for
Speaker 1: like thirty seven years in the league.
Speaker 3: Stay like he's.
Speaker 1: Nothing but football. He like fucking just pumps football into
Speaker 1: his base.
Speaker 3: Here's my thing about CT If anyone's gonna have to
Speaker 3: be that guy.
Speaker 1: But he's throwing doesn't Yeah, he's sucking throwing, dude, his studies.
Speaker 3: I'm a super fan.
Speaker 1: I think he'll win. He'll win one. If not this year,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're not. You think they
Speaker 1: can be contenders and me, I can't. You know, I
Speaker 1: could be fucking playing for the boys. If I'm playing
Speaker 1: for the boys. We're gonna We're winning Super Bowl Boys.
Speaker 3: No, you guys can definitely do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definite contend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, you guys are stacked this year.
Speaker 1: No, for sure. They have a Oh but uh no,
Speaker 1: he's a stuff man, verbels and stuff. We've had him,
Speaker 1: We've had the OC on. I've had coaches texting me like, Yo,
Speaker 1: how the fuck do you get these guys on and
Speaker 1: saying some ship like that.
Speaker 3: That's how it should be.
Speaker 4: There's no where, there's nowhere where they can do it, Like,
Speaker 4: you can't do it on the ESPN, You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't do anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not gonna do it on the like the
Speaker 1: sport pods.
Speaker 3: Where do you know? Pat mc?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was. I was reaching out to him.
Speaker 1: I got connected with him on Twitter and because Taylor
Speaker 1: went on his podcast and Taylor kind of talked about
Speaker 1: the idea talk about me. He was talking about me,
Speaker 1: and he followed me. I fall the back and we
Speaker 1: were kind of going back and forth, and I got
Speaker 1: his number because I'm like, Yo, aside from us going
Speaker 1: out there, are you coming on the bus, Like I
Speaker 1: want to just pick your brain for like mentoring on
Speaker 1: how to fucking do this because we just we this
Speaker 1: is a week or week and a half ago, right
Speaker 1: before you came.
Speaker 3: A week ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh we we did like a little FaceTime meeting
Speaker 1: and he was kind of helping me out on like
Speaker 1: figuring out, you know, how to go about monetizing. How
Speaker 1: did just go about everything outside of just having fucking
Speaker 1: cameras having content.
Speaker 4: Me and him are cut from the same cloth. Him,
Speaker 4: I just did a show, but we've been trying to
Speaker 4: connect her almost two years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a fucking stud, dude. I love watching what
Speaker 1: he does from afar. You guys too, like you kind
Speaker 1: of you got in the transitional stage, which we will
Speaker 1: talk about in a minute. But I was talking to
Speaker 1: him and he was he was just kind of mentoring
Speaker 1: me on how you stay consistent with it. Here's how
Speaker 1: you should go about it if you do one a week,
Speaker 1: you know, talking about your fan base, your audience, this, that,
Speaker 1: the others. Yeah, just talking about it right right, And
Speaker 1: so he that's how we got connected. So all rich
Speaker 1: and I saw he just got this big deal with
Speaker 1: Thursday Night the college football, man college football.
Speaker 3: Then you had the his own deal. He's crushing it.
Speaker 4: Man, and you went out there. How was his spot.
Speaker 4: It's dope. It's dope. It's one of the better ones
Speaker 4: for sure. All the guys like it's interesting to see
Speaker 4: like everyone has their the the guys who are doing
Speaker 4: well in that space. Everyone has like their own version
Speaker 4: of like their fantasy factory. Rob Deridic was kind of
Speaker 4: the first, right on Rob's My Boys. So Rob is
Speaker 4: kind of the first who owns everything.
Speaker 3: And then then Rogan went cool story and then he
Speaker 3: has the Ultimate bro Layer where it's like.
Speaker 1: Floating float, and then.
Speaker 4: He has archery range, and his cars are there, and
Speaker 4: the studios epic, and he has this video game center now,
Speaker 4: so he's kind of like the pinnacle of it. Even
Speaker 4: Kevin Hart got there and was like, God damned, I
Speaker 4: didn't step my game up. Everyone, anyone who goes to
Speaker 4: Rogan's like, oh, this is how he's supposed to do it.
Speaker 4: So I have my little thing in Santa Monica where
Speaker 4: I run my show with Theovonne King the Sting, I
Speaker 4: run my showtimes below the Belt and then fightings Kid
Speaker 4: all out of there. So everyone kind of has their
Speaker 4: own little thing. This is dope, though, man, this is unique.
Speaker 1: This is all we got, right, it's a lot of dude.
Speaker 1: We have no factory.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of dudes. Okay, that's my only.
Speaker 1: Just like our audiences, it could mix up.
Speaker 3: Maybe throw a hot female in there.
Speaker 1: You know, we're trying to get We're trying to get
Speaker 1: someone from some females on here to trying to build
Speaker 1: our base. We had a bachelorette winter on last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Shan Boos, So we kind of talked about all that stuff.
Speaker 1: You're getting there, getting there. We want to get this
Speaker 1: thing running. It doesn't even run.
Speaker 3: I mean, why oh just taking move Well, why here,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why you go.
Speaker 1: You go to the Super Bowl media row, you go
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, and us personally like me the
Speaker 1: way I kind of like I I like full circle ship.
Speaker 1: So having you on the bus is fucking awesome to me,
Speaker 1: right yeah, because I follow your stuff. And so if
Speaker 1: we have this bus mobile, we're talking like, I'm cool
Speaker 1: with h Earnhardt because he's a big Dale Earnhart, he's
Speaker 1: a Redskins fan. It's all over the bus.
Speaker 3: You're talking about Dale Heart.
Speaker 1: You're just kidding. Well, you already said you lost all
Speaker 1: the name drop bro, because I didn't know the crossfait guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys like what the but yeah, sports bro, get
Speaker 1: this thing mobile. You drive out the fucking him. Do
Speaker 1: you drive out to your guys spot if like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we want to go, if we want to cross if
Speaker 1: we want to go meet those guys, we'll fucking just
Speaker 1: drive to them. We'll fucking wait outside the goddamn complex
Speaker 1: and wait till those motherfuckers will come on the bus.
Speaker 3: I dig.
Speaker 1: So it's like we can just go everywhere. We'll go
Speaker 1: to Pat mccabee's thing. And so that's kind of what
Speaker 1: we're thinking about.
Speaker 3: I love it. It's different. I absolutely love it. In
Speaker 3: a million podcasts, it's cool man, one of your favorites.
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see. I'm still shook up with the
Speaker 3: CrossFit thing.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck dude, but yo, let's I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the transition you made from fighting. We did already
Speaker 1: a little bit of podcasting, but in particular I was
Speaker 1: watching the other day the where you had your loss
Speaker 1: to whoever.
Speaker 3: It was, Travis Brown.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you know where you know where I'm going
Speaker 1: When you were on Joe Rogan's fucking deal and I'm
Speaker 1: watching that, I send it the Chandler and I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: could you fucking imagine sitting there and being on Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan because it seemed like you were it was caught
Speaker 1: like it wasn't playing.
Speaker 3: Nothing was just not playing.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to know what was inside
Speaker 1: your fucking head. Uh so on talking about that. I
Speaker 1: kind of listened to your fighter in the Kid episode
Speaker 1: where you responded, and I'm like, fuck, I don't really
Speaker 1: want to hear this because I want to hear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to listen to it. I forget even
Speaker 3: what I said.
Speaker 4: I remember, so I got done with the loss, and
Speaker 4: I remember even during that fight and that I'll get
Speaker 4: to that. But that's if my thing on this is
Speaker 4: not happening on Comedy Central. I talk about that fight.
Speaker 4: That's that's what got.
Speaker 3: Me starting comedy.
Speaker 4: So I'm getting ready to I'm in the back, get
Speaker 4: ready to fight trash Brown. You know how it is
Speaker 4: when you're in the back and I don't want to
Speaker 4: be there.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it. I tell my coaches,
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this anymore. Go out there,
Speaker 3: get my ass.
Speaker 1: We really you told them that, Oh yeah yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: Like, this is it, man.
Speaker 4: But I go out there and make the fucking walk
Speaker 4: and uh get beat up. Everyone's like they stopped at earlier.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, that's crazy, thank god.
Speaker 1: And then so uh they got they call it early
Speaker 1: how boys.
Speaker 3: And then I have to pretend I was mad. I'm like, god,
Speaker 3: dang it, man, fuck.
Speaker 4: Fuck what am I gonna do? So yeah, so I
Speaker 4: get down that fight. Uh my my lips busted. I've
Speaker 4: a black guy.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 4: Callen goes, hey, man, you want to do a podcast
Speaker 4: my cot tell people how I'm feeling. And he goes, hey,
Speaker 4: Brogan called me and uh, he wants to do it
Speaker 4: with us.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, but don't be mean to me.
Speaker 4: Man, you guys gotta be cool, like I'm not doing well,
Speaker 4: and Brian's like, dude, you think that anything happened to you.
Speaker 1: And you're not doing cool because you're thinking about your train.
Speaker 1: You're you're just thinking everything like I don't want to more.
Speaker 1: Figure podcast doing well, but not that you lost. You're
Speaker 1: don't you don't really care as much about that.
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed that I lost. I'm also embarrassed, like, like,
Speaker 3: especially podcast the time is doing well, but I wasn't
Speaker 3: like balling and so it was like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit floating. So I'm trying to figure
Speaker 3: it out. And I'm like, all right, I'm down to
Speaker 3: do it, but be cool to me, and Brian's like, dude.
Speaker 3: I then we sit down and it's just like this
Speaker 3: this intervention, like I'm some druggie and he does not,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at count counting the Count's defense. He
Speaker 3: he was kind of like, oh shit.
Speaker 4: So you know, Brogan based like, dude, the thing it
Speaker 4: looks harsher than when you watch, like, holy fuck, but Brogan,
Speaker 4: I A was so close, and Rogan had a friend
Speaker 4: pass away of I think from drug over there something.
Speaker 4: He didn't get to talk to him. So Rogan's very
Speaker 4: black and white like this. Because they knew I could
Speaker 4: do other stuff even before that fight anything. Brogan and
Speaker 4: Calen tell me do stand up for the long, like dude,
Speaker 4: your funniest fuck get an act and start torring.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm me doing stand up. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: So they knew I was one foot in, one foot
Speaker 4: out because I was doing I was making my own
Speaker 4: merch for firing the kid I was lining up guessed I.
Speaker 3: Was drawing all this stuff.
Speaker 4: I was coming up with ideas like I was doing
Speaker 4: all this creative stuff and like, there's no he can
Speaker 4: do that and be a world champion. So that comes out,
Speaker 4: and I was more embarrassing also. I was embarrassed, and
Speaker 4: then I was also I didn't say much because if
Speaker 4: I was said time, I would just start crying because
Speaker 4: I was so hurt at the time. I was really hurt,
Speaker 4: so I didn't want to say anything, so it seemed.
Speaker 4: And then the competitor in me got super upset because
Speaker 4: I felt like, oh, you guys don't think I can
Speaker 4: do it, no doubt. I'm gonna cut to two of five.
Speaker 4: Fuck you guys, no doubt. So then it re fired
Speaker 4: me up. And two weeks in to come to two
Speaker 4: of five. Three weeks in, like I woke up one
Speaker 4: morning and I'm like, what am I doing? Like what
Speaker 4: am I doing?
Speaker 3: I called Joe and I called Brian and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm done, man, I'm done, and then just started fucking
Speaker 3: hitting the ground. Was like, we're gonna figure it out, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it really couldn't have worked out better.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's I.
Speaker 2: Think a lot of people are gonna watch that and
Speaker 2: and I mean I have a ton of respect for
Speaker 2: for you in that moment, especially me being a fighter,
Speaker 2: because I know I'm gonna have that conversation is.
Speaker 1: Gonna be had to me, you know most.
Speaker 3: Twelve million people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what my thought was. It's like you're private
Speaker 1: because you just said, like, okay, the fight ended. You
Speaker 1: were telling your trainers like, you know, I don't really
Speaker 1: want to do this much anymore.
Speaker 3: Police knew that, right, I was.
Speaker 1: You go to Rogan and your prize there and you're
Speaker 1: like I disagree with you, like and then you're fucking
Speaker 1: fired up again like you.
Speaker 4: Then the fighter gets into me, like if someone's like, dude,
Speaker 4: you can't come on, you can't play the linebacker, Like
Speaker 4: hold up, I'm saying I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I can do it. Don't get twisted. I can fucking
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 4: I'm still the top fifteen guy, Like no, no, no, you sucks,
Speaker 4: Like all right, motherfucker, I suck. All right, let's let's
Speaker 4: let's see how bad I Then the competitor got out
Speaker 4: of me, But that was all ego, man.
Speaker 1: And then what was out because you're the word great too,
Speaker 1: and d what do you mean like I'm top I'm
Speaker 1: top ten, top fifteen, Like what is the level of great?
Speaker 1: Because you're like, all great is here and you're here,
Speaker 1: It's like, what the fuck.
Speaker 4: And then it's also like, you know, Joe Rogan's Joe Rogan,
Speaker 4: he never fought in the FC, Brian Cowns, Brian Cown,
Speaker 4: he never fought in the c IF King Alaskaz and
Speaker 4: France Ghan who came up there like you're just not there, man.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: You guys have walked through the fire, so as much
Speaker 4: as they know what they're talking about, they've also never
Speaker 4: been in there.
Speaker 2: I thought I saw that no total too, and obviously
Speaker 2: a ton of respect for Joe, but he said, you know,
Speaker 2: I've seen thousands of fights and I've called thousands of fights,
Speaker 2: and obviously.
Speaker 1: The fighter in me is like, but you had never
Speaker 1: fought in a fight.
Speaker 2: But still you respect the opinions or so than anymore
Speaker 2: than any there.
Speaker 3: I talked. I talked to probably four people every day
Speaker 3: besides my girl, my brother, Joe Rogan, Brian Cown, every
Speaker 3: single day every day, missed so hard every day here.
Speaker 4: So it was just like, yeah, it pissed me off.
Speaker 4: But then in hindsight, it was the best thing for me.
Speaker 1: The show, because you knew you were on like you
Speaker 1: know what the this is like a conversation at the
Speaker 1: at I mean, you know, at my house or something.
Speaker 4: But but but I didn't even think about that way because
Speaker 4: what happened is it did go live and whatever say
Speaker 4: like eighty thousand people, one hundred thousand peop watch your life.
Speaker 4: Rogan was like, man, that was tough. I don't know
Speaker 4: if we should release this. But because people that wasn't
Speaker 4: on JR. That was a fighter and the kid, because.
Speaker 3: Rogan wanted to come on fighting, the King goes, let's
Speaker 3: just do it for my studio. It's easy. It was
Speaker 3: like a Friday night or something like that. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: I'm like all right.
Speaker 4: So then they went live and the Rogans like, we
Speaker 4: don't need to release that, you know if you're embarrassed,
Speaker 4: And I thought about IM like, no, release it that
Speaker 4: that's real, that happened.
Speaker 2: Release it, man, And even like as and as I
Speaker 2: was watching it, because you can see because they didn't
Speaker 2: put the camera on you that much either, it was
Speaker 2: all on Joe, you know.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, because I was but it's close to well
Speaker 3: that's what that's what.
Speaker 1: That's what, that's what the people want to see.
Speaker 2: And hear like, that's why this is so cool And
Speaker 2: that's why I think this is such an awesome platform
Speaker 2: that millions of people that saw there was such an
Speaker 2: awesome platform because you're almost speechless because people can see
Speaker 2: that the human being inside has that heart and is
Speaker 2: about to cry and this is his career.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, yeah, this is is I know stuff
Speaker 1: here Like yeah, that's the worst show I've ever know.
Speaker 1: But like Callum, what though, He's like, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you said yeah.
Speaker 4: But the thing is is uh that I think that's
Speaker 4: why I have like this ride and die fan base.
Speaker 4: Now why it's so important because when you're fighting, people
Speaker 4: see the countdown shows or the behind the scenes shows
Speaker 4: and I mean you're getting ready for a fight in
Speaker 4: your underwear and a steel cage.
Speaker 3: It's intense. Man, So you're you're that guy, but that's
Speaker 3: not really. I mean, that's one aspect of your life
Speaker 3: that's not you.
Speaker 4: If they if they interview about the you know, the
Speaker 4: offensive scheme of the city of the Los Angeles rams,
Speaker 4: that's a small slizzer. People don't know you. So podcasts
Speaker 4: they get to know you, man. And then I think
Speaker 4: with that, people went, oh shit, he's like he's just
Speaker 4: like us. Man, oh man, he was just like us.
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, those are his best friends. Tell me he
Speaker 4: sucks dick. Oh man, he's just like us. And then
Speaker 4: people followed me through from from They're like, oh, we
Speaker 4: ride with him.
Speaker 1: Right, because tell me fucking and you don't, you don't
Speaker 1: just sop about it.
Speaker 2: And that, well, that and that leads me to what
Speaker 2: you were saying earlier, because I was I wanted to
Speaker 2: hear this from you, because because Joe was like, you know,
Speaker 2: you can't be doing you got one.
Speaker 1: Foot out the door.
Speaker 2: You can't be doing this, that and the other thing,
Speaker 2: and and but you said, but that's what the smart
Speaker 2: fighters do. And I'm in the camp where I think
Speaker 2: it's the smartest thing in the world for me to
Speaker 2: start doing other things outside of just fighting.
Speaker 1: So here's all that's true. Because you don't probably think
Speaker 1: of yourself because I'm sitting there, I'm kind of resignating
Speaker 1: because you're what thirty at that time, Yeah, And I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there. I'm watching because I'm like, yeo, I'm twenty
Speaker 1: nine going on thirty this year, and You're like, you're
Speaker 1: you're a one foot out the door guy. You're a
Speaker 1: you think about other things, you think about life outside
Speaker 1: of like football. Uh, all these things that account was
Speaker 1: resonated with me. Like the only difference was he talked
Speaker 1: about being a fighter, you got to kind of be
Speaker 1: all in and fighting. So that's where I was, like, fighting.
Speaker 3: It's a little different. Yeah, but how long did you
Speaker 3: play football for? Since you're a child?
Speaker 1: Since I was second grade?
Speaker 4: Me too, Me too, right, So it's a little different
Speaker 4: because you know that you're you're in shape, your body's right,
Speaker 4: there's a season. There's no season in fighting. And then
Speaker 4: also I didn't start finding I was twenty four, so
Speaker 4: I'm behind the eight ball already. The guy and the
Speaker 4: difference between you and me, like, uh, world champion, you're
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, you know. So it's like you've had
Speaker 4: your career, man, whatever you decided to do. Now you're set,
Speaker 4: like there's no one can sit down, Like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: I don't know if this for you. You're not top
Speaker 4: of echelon. You're like, well, no, it's world champion, mother,
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? So it's a little different.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, so now if you want
Speaker 4: to do it, you can do whatever fuck you want.
Speaker 4: Now you've you've checked those boxes. I didn't check those boxes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean yeah, I just I look at
Speaker 2: what you have done, what what other people are doing,
Speaker 2: and I just think there's more, there's more to it.
Speaker 1: But it's hard though, because you do have to you
Speaker 1: have to be fully focused.
Speaker 2: But I think you can be fully focused in seasons
Speaker 2: for twelve weeks.
Speaker 4: It's tough because who's the who's the best one fifty
Speaker 4: five around the planet right now?
Speaker 3: Could be? Could be you think Kabebe's worried about podcasting
Speaker 3: or selling merch. No, he's wrestling Grizzly. Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He's there's certain like if you're in, if you're not
Speaker 4: hunt Man, to be the best I especially in fighting,
Speaker 4: it's tough.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So so your so your answer was that's what smart
Speaker 2: fighters do. So was that was that more? You know
Speaker 2: the sad Brendan.
Speaker 3: I do think it's what smart fighters do.
Speaker 4: But the other thing is is that's the smartest thing
Speaker 4: for Kabeb to do because Kabibe can't do this. Kabib
Speaker 4: can't go tonight do two hours of standards and make people.
Speaker 4: He has no other options, so he better put all
Speaker 4: his fucking energy and folks on that because that's how
Speaker 4: he's gonna make it a Cojekka stand where the fuck
Speaker 4: he's at, right, So he has to do that, and
Speaker 4: he's the best in the world at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he but he's also gonna be compensated for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's the smartest move for it wasn't smart.
Speaker 4: I was making I don't know, forty g's get beating
Speaker 4: up these fucking heavyweights with titties.
Speaker 3: It's like awful, man too.
Speaker 2: It's almost having, you know, having having gifts outside of
Speaker 2: just athletics.
Speaker 1: You start to see and realize you can do other.
Speaker 2: Things and not to mention when you start thinking about
Speaker 2: the impact that you can make on the world and
Speaker 2: how big your platform can be and then it can
Speaker 2: increase your bank account all that.
Speaker 4: But also like I've never like I think guys and
Speaker 4: you know how, like especially guys in the locker room,
Speaker 4: like all they they just labeled themselves is football players.
Speaker 3: Like all they know is football, whether they want to
Speaker 3: admit it or not to, but that's that's their Like
Speaker 3: that's their ego. Where man, their whole identity is football. Dude,
Speaker 3: that is such a small percentage of your life. The
Speaker 3: average NFL christ three and a half years. Dude, three
Speaker 3: and a half years. I played baseball, went for four years.
Speaker 3: I don't associate myself as a baseball player. So these
Speaker 3: guys just they they're football or nothing. No, dude, that's
Speaker 3: such a all right, So you're play in the NFL
Speaker 3: for four years? Cool man, what else are you gonna do?
Speaker 3: It's like that's just a stop. Yeah, and that's not
Speaker 3: the end of the destination.
Speaker 1: That's a scary part too. Not scary, but like when
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, I'm gonna start transitioning, what am I
Speaker 1: gonna think about me? Like when I'm getting them off
Speaker 1: seasons more, when I'm twenty eight, twenty nine, Like this
Speaker 1: pass off season and I'm thinking, you know, what are
Speaker 1: other things I need to get into? Because you think
Speaker 1: to yourself, yo, I've just fucking played ball since second grade.
Speaker 1: I was a five year player at Nebraska. So I
Speaker 1: was twenty three when I got in the league. I'm
Speaker 1: playing in the league right now, six years. I went
Speaker 1: twenty three years of my life to prepare for one
Speaker 1: dream and like one career that is gonna last six years.
Speaker 1: Its insane, and it seems like my whole life has
Speaker 1: been a long fucking time. But I'm not even thirty
Speaker 1: yet and we're gonna live. Yeah, so much living hopefully
Speaker 1: you know, however long.
Speaker 4: But you got so much living do. But also but
Speaker 4: also like kid, like especially these days, we got your degree,
Speaker 4: no one really gives a fuck. It's all about the networking.
Speaker 4: So if you go to see, you're hoping somewhere when
Speaker 4: you get a job, someone in the alumni USC hooked
Speaker 4: up the NFL.
Speaker 3: Dude, that network. No one has more power than a
Speaker 3: lot of those guys who're retired, and so that's all
Speaker 3: you're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a small.
Speaker 4: Sliver of your identity. But guys get so caught up
Speaker 4: in it, like with the fighters, how they want to
Speaker 4: be tough on the streets, like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when it's over, it's fucking rough. It's
Speaker 1: it's rough.
Speaker 2: And it also what I will say too, is is
Speaker 2: it's an awesome opportunity to take a hold of because
Speaker 2: if you do it right, six years could be millions
Speaker 2: and millions of dollars. You're right that that would take
Speaker 2: somebody twenty years to do, for sure. And that's kind
Speaker 2: of the way I've I've looked at my opportunity with fighting,
Speaker 2: and I even now being in the sport for ten years,
Speaker 2: I look at some of these guys' careers and realize
Speaker 2: how truly blessed and lucky I am to be in
Speaker 2: this sport competing.
Speaker 1: You've been for this long and.
Speaker 2: Feel as good as I feel, And I think the
Speaker 2: best thing to do is start fighting at twenty two,
Speaker 2: twenty three, twenty four years.
Speaker 1: Agree.
Speaker 2: You know some of these guys who start young, it's
Speaker 2: you can only take so much damage, Aaron Pakoman, dude,
Speaker 2: you can only.
Speaker 1: Take some I mean, look at Eddie.
Speaker 2: You know Eddie started fighting he was yeah, sixteen, seventeen,
Speaker 2: eighteen years old and had been getting dropped forever.
Speaker 1: And I mean you brought up our lobsky. I literally
Speaker 1: just watched the fuck Or Fight last weekend.
Speaker 3: Still doing the damn thing. Roth Well, I thought, both guys, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what what night was that? Was that? What night was that? Jay?
Speaker 3: I think I was? I was I was going on
Speaker 3: stage while those big boys were fighting. How funny is that?
Speaker 4: I thought both of them, they're fighting and I'm not
Speaker 4: even trying to toot my own.
Speaker 3: Horn or back here. I made more than they did
Speaker 3: off that was about to I was about to say that,
Speaker 3: but I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. But I mean it's and it's true.
Speaker 2: I mean that's capture attention, get out, get out before
Speaker 2: everyone says you should.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing that you gotta skills like you got.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, and not everybody has that. I think
Speaker 1: guys need to just dabble in stuff to know that
Speaker 1: they have interests in other areas because when it is
Speaker 1: over and say, like guys are retired right now and
Speaker 1: they don't even know it. Correct Like in our bio
Speaker 1: it's like will Count the friegent retired and doesn't know it.
Speaker 1: Just to be fucking funny. But I could be trained
Speaker 1: all year long and I picked up. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a call and get a call. I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: call training in the next year, all get picked up,
Speaker 1: and those guys don't realize, like, yo, you're the b Yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: Picking over all good all right, cool man, Yeah you're
Speaker 4: gonna be fine, Like you're gonna be feah you know.
Speaker 1: I feel great, but you guys need to guys need
Speaker 1: to think about that ship. And that's that's what I hate.
Speaker 3: Well, not everyone has Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1: One has Joe Rogan, Right, Oh are you you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Like like for for him to sit down with you, like, hey,
Speaker 3: it's over. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Okay, man, you gotta hang it up.
Speaker 3: You think there's no NFL Joe Rogan. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: They're kind of is the head coach goes, no, we
Speaker 4: don't watch you man. Yeah, but guys like I'll just
Speaker 4: bounce around the next team. It's like he made it
Speaker 4: pretty clear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what a fucking the arena league? Didn't you
Speaker 1: try that?
Speaker 3: I did? It was miss dude.
Speaker 1: You know how, I had a couple buddies due.
Speaker 3: I drive to you Tah. My brother's actually with me.
Speaker 4: I drive to Utah and I was too sixty two
Speaker 4: at the time, and they're like, what can we do
Speaker 4: to get.
Speaker 3: You to three hundred pounds? And I was like, excuse me,
Speaker 3: Like what going to to keep still? The towns Like
Speaker 3: I don't know how much you're paying me, like twenty
Speaker 3: seven thousand dollars a year and You're probably gonna have
Speaker 3: to get a second job and you can play arena
Speaker 3: football and salt lean your utah a check plays. I'm out,
Speaker 3: I'm out. I drove.
Speaker 4: I was there for three days and it was like,
Speaker 4: this isn't this wasn't the dream I had as a child.
Speaker 3: I'll figure something else out and I don't want to
Speaker 3: be three hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: Guys do that though, and that was before you started
Speaker 2: training started fighting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's heartbreaking, man. That Arena league is.
Speaker 1: Like I had a couple buddies and they just got
Speaker 1: they would get done. This was years ago. They got
Speaker 1: done playing their arena game and they're like coming out
Speaker 1: with us and it's one of them, like got injured,
Speaker 1: So yo, how are you gonna take do your injury?
Speaker 1: Like do you guys have like a medical team or other.
Speaker 1: They're like compto man, like they don't know nothing. Like
Speaker 1: I'm in bed with just ice on my.
Speaker 3: Fucking time to give up the dream? Fellas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make more money at Starbucks. Yeah, those guys
Speaker 1: even in that was a aa fl those guys when
Speaker 1: that business tanked this past year, guys were getting cut.
Speaker 1: Let go. My boy was in the hotel. They were
Speaker 1: getting ready to go to a game or practice or
Speaker 1: something like, hey man, we lost all our money. Like
Speaker 1: it's over.
Speaker 3: It's time to move on though, you know. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: if you're not in the NFL, it's time to move on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's over.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: Well that's well, and that's when it would be conventional
Speaker 2: wisdom would tell you have something ready and.
Speaker 3: Go whatever you want, just do it, Just do it.
Speaker 4: It's tough if like you, you're well, you have a family,
Speaker 4: but you're kind of set because you're you're fighting legacy.
Speaker 3: And then with you, you don't have kids or anything,
Speaker 3: so for you, it's even easier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a different animal, Yeah you have I have a
Speaker 1: three year old.
Speaker 3: No, you got one dude in November?
Speaker 1: Another boy a boy? Yeah, nice boys, man, congrats.
Speaker 3: On that, thanks man. Lebron James, the Lebron James three,
Speaker 3: three year old. Yeah, that's kind of it tonight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice. That's kind of how my son is right now.
Speaker 2: Every every time I post a picture, people are thinking,
Speaker 2: holy because he's adopted.
Speaker 3: Oh he's adopted, but yeah, much bigger.
Speaker 1: What kind of adoption you went with? The blind side
Speaker 1: adoption where you just you tied them in the forty
Speaker 1: hop in the bag. But yeah, did you go to
Speaker 1: the orphan?
Speaker 3: You're like, can can we just go up? Maybe play
Speaker 3: a pickup game real quick.
Speaker 4: Before I like, why, uh, don't worry about the Asian kids.
Speaker 3: No, let's just stop. Let's just get over here fellas. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll take Miguel. You'll take Miguel. No, he's fine. I'll
Speaker 3: take Steve get out here, Steve get out here.
Speaker 1: What's his name? I wanted to interview him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Torell and Tyrone please bought them fill
Speaker 3: Lebron James a three year old?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, got that's how it goes. Lebron James, three
Speaker 4: year old. And my kid's a beast man. He's just
Speaker 4: he's just bigger than everyone.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, so you got to you gotta make sure.
Speaker 2: You got to make sure he's not, you know, doing
Speaker 2: stuff that he should pushing kids over and that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff, because he's gonna be bigger than everyone else.
Speaker 4: Now you got to make sure he's No, he's not
Speaker 4: that kid man exact. The teacher was like, man, I
Speaker 4: wish you'd.
Speaker 3: Be more like like, if a kid comes up and
Speaker 3: takes his toys, cool with it. I'm like no, I
Speaker 3: like that about him. Man like, well, he needs to
Speaker 3: make sure he fights for its IM, that'll be cool.
Speaker 3: And then I remember the he.
Speaker 4: Goes like this this kind of ritzy school where there's
Speaker 4: like celebrity kids there and they call me and they're
Speaker 4: like when you talk to you And this is when
Speaker 4: he was fucking two, and they're like, you know, his
Speaker 4: his he's a.
Speaker 3: Little behind on language, to be His English is a
Speaker 3: little behind him. Like oh, really, well have you spoke
Speaker 3: Spanish to him? She's like excuse me, I'm like he's bilingual, bitch. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so so he speaks two languages, so he might be
Speaker 3: a little behind an English. Try a Spanish, bitch.
Speaker 1: In his mind, he's thinking you're a little behind in
Speaker 1: the Spanish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he's thinking.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know what he's saying.
Speaker 3: Language speak one language. And yeah.
Speaker 4: The other thing is I go, let me guess. So
Speaker 4: you have a speech therapist you want me to put
Speaker 4: them with? She's like yes, Like get the fuck out
Speaker 4: of here.
Speaker 1: Rolling in the podcast Celebrity Buddies.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you want you, But there's there's just different
Speaker 4: levels in LA. It's insane. Parents are crazy. The teachers
Speaker 4: are crazy. So it's like, you know, certain kids motor
Speaker 4: skills are here, and then certain kids cerebral skills are here.
Speaker 3: But they're fucking two and three and.
Speaker 1: They're probably like judging the ship out of all their skills.
Speaker 3: Oh hold up, well I have to go. This is
Speaker 3: in two weeks. I have to go on like a
Speaker 3: like a tour of schools already for elementary and middle schools.
Speaker 3: It's so competitive, man, crazy really Yeah, thank god he's
Speaker 3: half Mexican. We should be all.
Speaker 1: Righty there you go, yo. Comedy, Yes, how in the
Speaker 1: fuck do you prepare for comedy when you made your
Speaker 1: transition and you're like, how in the fuck am I
Speaker 1: going to be a comic? Boys, Like, obviously you have
Speaker 1: great mentors with Joe yeah and Brian Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: I'm sure they taught you a lot of stuff, but
Speaker 1: not really yeah, like come on, step no they you
Speaker 1: guys like this is all you got, here's the.
Speaker 4: Thing, and you like there's not really like the one
Speaker 4: can be like hey, dude, like there's no either you
Speaker 4: got it you don't. And I've been fortunate because through
Speaker 4: over ten thousand hours of podcasting keeping up with Brian
Speaker 4: Cown who's one of the best comics in the world.
Speaker 4: Then doing podcast THEO Vaughn, Like you got to be
Speaker 4: on your ship, man, So just being on the mic
Speaker 4: and come up with stories, and like I get a
Speaker 4: lot of practice from this of just verbally kind of
Speaker 4: going being funny and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So the podcast and helped me and then just just
Speaker 3: doing it. Like I again, I took my the work
Speaker 3: ethic I had in football fighting brought over to comedy.
Speaker 3: And you know, I work at work ninety percent of
Speaker 3: the community.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, do you like you take time sitting all right?
Speaker 1: You take time sitting down and prepping shit like that,
Speaker 1: right transitions? Like I saw something. I think it might
Speaker 1: have been like a behind the mic. Yeah with you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys are fucking all sitting down and then you
Speaker 1: go play horse or whatever. Yeah, you guys sit there
Speaker 1: and talk about like not necessarily strategy, but.
Speaker 4: Like like I'll have a store, like you guys come
Speaker 4: to show night, like I have a bit on my
Speaker 4: potty training my son. So it was such a beast
Speaker 4: and I'm like, there has to be something that people
Speaker 4: are going to relate to this.
Speaker 3: This is funny, man.
Speaker 4: So then I'll tell them like, hey, I'm thinking of
Speaker 4: doing this this, and then we'll just start punching it
Speaker 4: up and then I'll try it, you know in the
Speaker 4: belly room at the comedy store, at the improv I'll
Speaker 4: get some laughs and then it just becomes this rolling
Speaker 4: like it's like a little snowball then comes into this
Speaker 4: fucking monster.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's relatable too, that's what everybody wants to do.
Speaker 4: It's relatable, but you know, but it's it fits with
Speaker 4: the narrative on Matt right. Because my first Showtime special,
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait to get rid of that thing because
Speaker 4: a lot of it was fight heavy, like how I
Speaker 4: got there from fighting and the from you know you
Speaker 4: can watch on this not happening it coming to YouTube now,
Speaker 4: but that bulk of the story I went from fighting
Speaker 4: to stand up. That's that was the kind of the
Speaker 4: stone of the special. Well I got rid of that
Speaker 4: and now I have all new ship, which is fun
Speaker 4: and exciting for me.
Speaker 3: It's my life with my.
Speaker 4: Kid, my girl, being Mexican, my dad, you know, taking
Speaker 4: drugs like it's stuff that that I'm that I'm doing.
Speaker 3: So it's fun.
Speaker 1: So like behind like behind the scenes type stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's it's it's stuff like like comeding comedian ship,
Speaker 4: you know, like real life talking.
Speaker 3: I love it, man, I love it.
Speaker 1: That's dope. So all the stuff you're doing now, it's
Speaker 1: not this stuff from all.
Speaker 3: Completely completely new Hour. Yeah.
Speaker 4: As soon as I shot that hour in January, came
Speaker 4: out in May, but by see Jenny Free by March,
Speaker 4: I had at least thirty minutes of New Ship and
Speaker 4: is I I don't believe in comics are different. I
Speaker 4: don't believe in going and shooting a special and then
Speaker 4: doing the same bits.
Speaker 3: I just don't. I think once people have seen that,
Speaker 3: you need to come up, gets out there to go watch,
Speaker 3: especially me as a as a guy who's younger, like
Speaker 3: new to comedy, like you better be coming with it, man,
Speaker 3: like you better spend fire man.
Speaker 1: I agree with that too, because I was huge. I
Speaker 1: mean I still am, but not as much as I
Speaker 1: was in college. I was fucking love to Daniel Comedy
Speaker 1: and I went and saw him when he was in
Speaker 1: Omaha and he had a lot of the some of
Speaker 1: the recycled stuff that I had listened to, and I
Speaker 1: was fucking a little bummed.
Speaker 3: It bumps me out as because I was a fan
Speaker 3: of comedy for anything. And if I see a comic.
Speaker 4: And he's doing the same stuff, it's like, especially now
Speaker 4: as a comic, I'm like, oh, you're not working, dude.
Speaker 3: You know you're you're breaking up the old hits. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: this isn't music. Like if I go see Ero Smith,
Speaker 3: give me the fucking hits.
Speaker 4: Don't give me your new ship. Give me the hits,
Speaker 4: Tommy Different. I don't want the hits. Man, I don't
Speaker 4: see that ship.
Speaker 1: Because you've seen it.
Speaker 3: I've already seen it. I know where I'm supposed to laugh.
Speaker 3: Give me the new ship, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i'vehiped you up to all my friends. A fucking
Speaker 1: we got a crew of us here. Give me something new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, is there ah?
Speaker 2: And and with that is there is there new pressure
Speaker 2: to keep doing more and more and more and you're
Speaker 2: writing more.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: The only pressure I feel is from and it's my
Speaker 4: own It's it's in my own head. The only pressure
Speaker 4: I feel is from really other comics. I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to to feel like I'm part of the squad, especially
Speaker 4: at the comedy store. I mean, you're talking about the
Speaker 4: best of the best in the Hall of Fame. You
Speaker 4: want to prove you belong there. The only way you
Speaker 4: do that is by writing really really good jokes.
Speaker 1: And then and then with their is their camaraderie, Is
Speaker 1: their competition?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's I think there's there's competition, but it's
Speaker 4: not like football where it's like I'm gonna take your
Speaker 4: fucking spot.
Speaker 3: It's competition like, oh, he just crushed. I know, I
Speaker 3: gotta crush. It's cool.
Speaker 4: So, but the team aspect that I miss in fighting
Speaker 4: and in football, I get at the comedy store with
Speaker 4: the other comic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're there all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm there all the time. You're hanging out like everyone.
Speaker 4: We're all we're all going through the same race, like
Speaker 4: everyone's in the same same with the football team. That chemistry,
Speaker 4: everyone has that chemistry. Even though comedy's individual, you're all
Speaker 4: you all know exactly what you're going through exactly.
Speaker 3: Everyone they can relate to you.
Speaker 1: Man, it's great, it's stop dude. You do you have
Speaker 1: any like weird vibes around comics? Who because you got
Speaker 1: started faster than any again, is that ever weird when
Speaker 1: you're around like, uh, probably not anymore. But in the
Speaker 1: beginning you're sitting in those rooms or you're around I
Speaker 1: just think you have a guy like man, unless you
Speaker 1: were like with Joe or somebody that you knew that
Speaker 1: you know, you were kinda either follow or introduce. I
Speaker 1: don't know how all that stuff works.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, especially when I first started. I think now,
Speaker 4: even if they're like, what the fuck? You got a
Speaker 4: special doing comedy in three years for Showtime, there's guys
Speaker 4: that have been doing for twenty years. Yeah, I expected that,
Speaker 4: and that's I deserve that, specially after three years.
Speaker 3: Is that's stupid.
Speaker 4: There's no one should ever give me that special worked
Speaker 4: out and it's great for Showtime and me, but it's silly, man.
Speaker 4: So I think people were just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: But they see the work I put in, so they
Speaker 4: can't hate on that. They're like, oh, no, he wants
Speaker 4: to be he's trying to be legit, he's one of us.
Speaker 3: I'm on the road more than.
Speaker 4: Damn near anyone. I'm doing sets in La NonStop. I
Speaker 4: did four sets the other night, Like I'm hustling, man,
Speaker 4: So they can they appreciate it because I'm not. I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to be Jeremy Piven or Charlie Sheen. I'm like, look,
Speaker 4: I'm from this show. Check it out, and then they
Speaker 4: don't have any material. No, I got material, man, this
Speaker 4: is what this is my passion, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: That's and you grew up wanting to be a comedian.
Speaker 3: Stateury Night Live. That was my ship.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to do the host right, you
Speaker 1: want to host it.
Speaker 3: I still think I can eventually, still think I can
Speaker 3: get there.
Speaker 1: Jimmy bow Right, it's wait. No, he's the Tonight show.
Speaker 3: But he was a SIEN Live alumni, one of the greats.
Speaker 3: He's hilarious, but that'd be sick. I know.
Speaker 4: I don't know how many people are watching these days,
Speaker 4: but still it'd still be Yeah. That's when I know
Speaker 4: I'd be doing something right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, being a host for a why uh so in
Speaker 2: your opinion, because I I was a huge Saturday Night
Speaker 2: Live guy growing up.
Speaker 1: So you feel like that is falling off. Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live is fining.
Speaker 3: People are just TV shows in general funk out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're streaming, and this is true.
Speaker 4: And what people are doing is like Jimmy Fallon and
Speaker 4: the best of James Cornet is no one's really tuning
Speaker 4: into those late night spots like before. You know, like
Speaker 4: there's Johnny Carson where if you're a stand up you
Speaker 4: got four minutes on Carson. You killed it, dude, you
Speaker 4: had a career, you were fucking your movie offers, TV
Speaker 4: stand up sold out shows.
Speaker 3: There's nothing like that.
Speaker 4: Now, no one's really watching. So now James Corn, Jimmy Fallon,
Speaker 4: and Jimmy Kimball, they're all doing stuff to go viral
Speaker 4: the next morning.
Speaker 3: So they shoot it.
Speaker 4: And maybe two hundred thousand people watch it, but the
Speaker 4: next morning they're going, you.
Speaker 3: Know, on YouTube, and that's where it goes viral. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so no one's really sitting down watching Senate Life. You
Speaker 3: might get bits on there, but.
Speaker 1: No one's really tuning it in social media. Still.
Speaker 3: To me, I don't give fuck it. Four people are watching,
Speaker 3: that would be a feather in my cap.
Speaker 1: Man being the host of SNL, Yeah, that's the play.
Speaker 1: That'd be sick, dude. Talk about your boy, Callen. How
Speaker 1: did you guys meet and how does that relationship, how
Speaker 1: did that relationship grow? And though like what it is
Speaker 1: because obviously you guys have great chemistry. Yeah, but again,
Speaker 1: like you didn't know him before you got I don't
Speaker 1: tell me about how you guys met.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I was a coach on The Ultimate Fighter fourteen and
Speaker 4: Brian was a friend of Natemark Carts, who was also
Speaker 4: a fighter, and they brought Brian in to make.
Speaker 3: The kids laugh.
Speaker 4: And that was in Vegas, and it just so happened
Speaker 4: that following week I was gonna move to La. I
Speaker 4: knew no when I sold all my stuff moved to
Speaker 4: LA and Brian and I became friends.
Speaker 3: On the set. Just I had no idea who he was,
Speaker 3: no idea. He was just funny.
Speaker 4: And he gave me his number and I drove to
Speaker 4: La and he was the only number I had on
Speaker 4: my phone and I was super lonely. It was a
Speaker 4: came anywhere meet for coffee. Yeah, And he was like, yep,
Speaker 4: because he loves fighting. He's obsessed with like dudes and
Speaker 4: fighting somber.
Speaker 3: He's a fifty one year old day man and then
Speaker 3: he's obsessed with this big gay out. So yeah.
Speaker 4: So we met for off and then started doing the
Speaker 4: podcast Man, which had this weird chemistry.
Speaker 1: So when you did all your training for fighting, you
Speaker 1: trained in Vegas.
Speaker 3: No, I was just there for The Ultimate Fighter. I
Speaker 3: was literally just doing coaching.
Speaker 1: So where did you do all your training?
Speaker 3: In? LA?
Speaker 4: Well, Denver for most of my career, and then I
Speaker 4: moved to LA after I lost Ben Rothwall. I just
Speaker 4: was like, well, this ain't working for me in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Sold all my ship, moved LA, didn't know anyone, started
Speaker 3: training with Mark Munos and then that was the smartest
Speaker 3: move I ever did, not because of fighting, but because
Speaker 3: of entertainment. Yeah, dude, Yeah, Muna is the best.
Speaker 1: So was Callen? Like? Was he U? Was he crushing?
Speaker 1: Yet when you guys were what.
Speaker 4: He should be giving me ten percent royalty of telling tickets?
Speaker 4: Heself he was selling seventy tickets.
Speaker 3: I came along.
Speaker 4: I knew him as like the hangover guy. Everyone did, Yeah,
Speaker 4: everyone does. He's he's one of the best comedians in
Speaker 4: the world. He wasn't selling tickets. Then, you know, both
Speaker 4: of us, we're kind of you know and yang man,
Speaker 4: we're both we're perfect for each other, and we have
Speaker 4: that We had that vehicle, the podcast, and you know,
Speaker 4: him on his own isn't great, Me and my own
Speaker 4: isn't great. But together, man, we have this weird chemistry
Speaker 4: and that's kind of what.
Speaker 3: But he's a phenomenal actor.
Speaker 4: Right, so he's on the Goldbergs and he has a
Speaker 4: spin off of school, so he's doing that. Yeah, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're both fortunate.
Speaker 3: For each other. I'll say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll say that. Are you guys ever all going
Speaker 1: to go on tour together?
Speaker 3: Brian?
Speaker 1: Are you fucking you? And all the fucking boys.
Speaker 4: Like Ceo, Roguan Diaz, Chryscher Segura be the best show
Speaker 4: I remember?
Speaker 1: Remember the one with Jeff Foxworthy and the Blue Collar Tour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like something like that.
Speaker 3: Everyone blew up from that.
Speaker 1: Ron White dude, I saw him in Nashville when the
Speaker 1: spot is downtown and drink hilarious.
Speaker 3: Is great. The problem with all of us good, we
Speaker 3: did do a thing a theater in Phoenix is THEO. R. Shafir,
Speaker 3: Big Jay Callan and myself is five of us. Two shows.
Speaker 3: That was fun. You know what the problem is is
Speaker 3: because you just have to figure out the payment structure
Speaker 3: because if all those guys talking about headlining comics, so
Speaker 3: I think, I don't give a fuck about the money.
Speaker 3: I want it for the experience.
Speaker 2: But you know, when is the newer guy coming up
Speaker 2: to of course those guys think that well, of.
Speaker 4: Course, yeah, but signing that because I can I can sell,
Speaker 4: I can't sell, and they tickets Rogan or these other
Speaker 4: guys together, you know, I don't know the problem is
Speaker 4: the dynamics of figuring out who deserves one.
Speaker 1: The ticket price would have to go way up correct.
Speaker 4: Get people there, because but also you'd have to got
Speaker 4: to remember if we all, if we're on tour together,
Speaker 4: you'd have to stop doing what you're doing on your own.
Speaker 3: It's it's so tough to Brogan, is it? This weekend
Speaker 3: him and Chappelle are torn together? Oh? Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be sick. That would be sick. If
Speaker 1: you guys can have that ship captured when you guys
Speaker 1: are like fucking fifty or sixty years, that's what I
Speaker 1: look like.
Speaker 4: Because everyone's set financially like everyone's rich. Yeah, so just
Speaker 4: do it so we can film it. Like let's say
Speaker 4: everyone did twenty minutes, like twenty epic mints and then
Speaker 4: film that and release that.
Speaker 3: That would be sick. And you got boys, anyone can
Speaker 3: burn twenty minutes, you'd be good man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you guys are looking back on it,
Speaker 1: like you look at the what the fuck we did?
Speaker 4: And made THEO wants to make a movie with all
Speaker 4: It's like a buddy really.
Speaker 1: Where you like, uh, like all of our crew with
Speaker 1: Chriss Rock and uh David's made and oh you're talking
Speaker 1: about grown ups, grown upbout.
Speaker 3: Like yeah like that but good yeah like that but yeah,
Speaker 3: just like that, but really good, good movie just like that.
Speaker 3: But not all of us are out of shape, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: Dude? That was that would be awesome? Yeah? Would you
Speaker 1: be the uh what's his fucking name? Would you be? Uh?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Kevin? Would you be Kevin?
Speaker 3: Kevin Joe's guys?
Speaker 1: No? I mean you talk with you're just talking about
Speaker 1: your You're heavier now what it was? You talk, you talk,
Speaker 1: you texted the boys? But what are you at now?
Speaker 1: You did keto for probably what days now? Bro? Day?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 3: I'm down eight pounds. I'm sweating like him, up.
Speaker 1: A pound a day. We're all Fuck, that's what happened, dude.
Speaker 3: I gotta get down to two thirty five by October?
Speaker 1: Is there a bet? Well? Why do you gotta get
Speaker 1: down to a grand?
Speaker 3: Callum?
Speaker 4: Bet me a grand I couldn't do it. I'm like
Speaker 4: all right, I'm gonna do it. I need to lose
Speaker 4: weight anyways, but now I just have to do it.
Speaker 1: Two thirty five?
Speaker 3: What do you weigh?
Speaker 1: Two thirty How tall are you? Six six two? Matt
Speaker 1: six two? Oh't you fucking disrespect me? Back there?
Speaker 3: What's the heaviest? What's the heaviest you've ever been?
Speaker 1: Thirty seven? I've never been like the biggest.
Speaker 3: Oh you're not part of this thick life. You ain't
Speaker 3: on board.
Speaker 1: This is I could get it. And my dad he's
Speaker 1: got a nice little fucking table on his beer. He
Speaker 1: laid a kid fucking set of beer there. And that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I got the gene and me to be heavy from
Speaker 1: here because that's what I get. I get the muffin
Speaker 1: top and the bottom tire me.
Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah, I'm having that either.
Speaker 1: It's rough, dude.
Speaker 4: I took my family to Hawaii and we were out
Speaker 4: in the ocean. I was looking at the dad's like,
Speaker 4: oh damn, I'm the fattest one here. I needn't step
Speaker 4: my game up, man. So there's that. And then I
Speaker 4: got a kid coming in November, and you know, you
Speaker 4: take the epic picture with your son. I don't be
Speaker 4: fucking Ralphie May holding my fucking kids.
Speaker 3: You're fat as ship. So I got trying to use
Speaker 3: your kid to like guard my stomach and my tits
Speaker 3: are in his face.
Speaker 4: And then my kid sees that when he's like twenty,
Speaker 4: My god, dad that I want to be like, Oh,
Speaker 4: dad was Superman.
Speaker 1: That's what you weren't fighting at this time? Were your dad?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the reason why I'm doing it. That's really
Speaker 4: and my dad body shame me. We're my pool? Should
Speaker 4: I have a pool?
Speaker 1: And were pot say if it's ground?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're ground ground.
Speaker 1: No, not that bullshit, that's a Missouri poo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're my pool.
Speaker 4: And my dad hadn't seen me in a while, and
Speaker 4: our shirts are off, and my dad looks here and goes,
Speaker 4: I could.
Speaker 3: Feel his eyes on me and goes, you're still working
Speaker 3: out of what? He goes, you still work out about?
Speaker 4: And I go, yeah, every day, goes huh, wow, it
Speaker 4: works though I haven't had a carb since what's up?
Speaker 3: Dad?
Speaker 1: Fuck you fucking step brothers. You haven't had a carb
Speaker 1: since thirteen? You want to touch this ship?
Speaker 3: That's me now, dude, that's me. We just went and
Speaker 3: ate what what what?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: Barbecue? Place do we eat at.
Speaker 1: At least peg leg leg porker the highest one. Yelp,
Speaker 1: that's what you guys went with.
Speaker 3: It's kind of weak. I'm gonna be honest, fellas I've
Speaker 3: had all over.
Speaker 1: That place was weak. What did you get? What you get? So?
Speaker 4: I can't have barbecue, sauce or carbs, So I just
Speaker 4: had the dry rub ribs.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a dry rub rib guy.
Speaker 3: I need.
Speaker 1: I'm a sauce guy. I know you can't have sauce.
Speaker 3: I can have like the vinegar, like Carolina vinegar sauce
Speaker 3: because there's no sugar. Oh yeah, yeah, but that peg
Speaker 3: leg was kind of weak, man, it really was.
Speaker 1: I hate that we're doing this too, because it is
Speaker 1: known in Nashville. It's the number one spot rated Nashville.
Speaker 3: Get off peg Legs, nuts and get off Johnny Cash Nuts.
Speaker 3: Move on.
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to get move on.
Speaker 3: There are so many billboards for him. Get over, Johnny
Speaker 3: Cash Museum, Johnny Cash Restaurant, Johnny Cash Merch.
Speaker 1: It's over now, the Johnny Cash museums. Like the size
Speaker 1: of this bus, dude, it's really nothing.
Speaker 3: Just get out of my face with Johnny Cash man.
Speaker 3: I know it's not this comes out. I'm gonna be gone,
Speaker 3: so I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Oh ship are you doing? Are you gonna try to
Speaker 1: do anything? Nashvillian, drink some whiskey.
Speaker 3: That's about it, man, I'm a whiskey guy, big guy.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Buffalo Trace by far Buffalo Trace, Blantons.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck's in there?
Speaker 3: Proof problems around. Where did we go last night?
Speaker 1: That was dope.
Speaker 3: I felt like a vampire. But it's cool.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a speakeasy Patterson House. Yeah really, But here's
Speaker 4: the thing. People can't talk to you.
Speaker 3: You know that. It's like a rule no funk either
Speaker 3: it's dope.
Speaker 1: You haven't been there. I have not. You guys come
Speaker 1: to the earlier late show seven. I want to be fresh, dude.
Speaker 1: I want your fucking best. I want when you want,
Speaker 1: when you're ready to go. You're not repeating nothing?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: Or is it better after after you've had am I
Speaker 1: saw the look on his face. They're both good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying we can know the Patterson House after
Speaker 4: and like not see each other in the dark.
Speaker 1: Just it's there.
Speaker 3: It's so fucking dark, and I love it.
Speaker 1: It's a cool spot.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: It's a cool spot. You guys are going you guys
Speaker 1: are going on to night too, right, dB, Man, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to fucking see dB. Hey, where's wear a chain?
Speaker 1: This is all I got?
Speaker 4: Bigger's dude. There's also a lot of King Baby. I
Speaker 4: see billboards for king Baby the jewelry too.
Speaker 3: That feels a weird. Yeah, it's a weird john Johnny Cash,
Speaker 3: King Baby and barbecue. There's a lot of that's get
Speaker 3: off Dolly Pardons titties, that is, dude. Find other people
Speaker 3: that celebrate. Man, we did well. Now he's think. Do
Speaker 3: you think Johnny Cash get a record deal in twenty nineteen? No?
Speaker 3: You ever heard his chops? Not great? This guy looks pissed,
Speaker 3: are you Johnny Cash? Man? He's shruck.
Speaker 1: He's like like this mother, he's actually tearing up right now. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm a Johnny fucking God's gonna cut you down. That
Speaker 1: song will get me hype fucking anywhere. They're not me, man,
Speaker 1: you don't like nothing, Johnny Cash.
Speaker 3: I like the movie Walking Tall with a Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good movie. I'm with that. But you're just like
Speaker 1: you're just like, yeah, I'm over there.
Speaker 3: He's all right, he's all right, he's chased that little
Speaker 3: june bug. Run what's up? Oh no, no, that movie's
Speaker 3: good walk.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, he said walking. Yeah it was good man.
Speaker 3: Hey, but also doesn't matter. It's Johnny Cash.
Speaker 1: Oh funny dude. Yeah, we got anything else? Man, Yo,
Speaker 1: we got.
Speaker 3: Set natal on fire? You did? Yeah, We're We're over
Speaker 3: like you. Everyone's all I think we should get him
Speaker 3: out of here.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and cut out the last ten percentage of
Speaker 1: Nashville that listens to this pod. They need to know though,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, It's not like I was
Speaker 1: born and raised here, like I'm just somebody fucking grew
Speaker 1: up in Missouri, went to Nebraska's other places.
Speaker 3: You got top golf here, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, I got a little hype. What do
Speaker 1: do you feel about top golf?
Speaker 3: It's all right, man, you know I was there in
Speaker 3: Cincinnati a little overrated.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm hating right now. Your barbecue fucked
Speaker 4: me up, man, and now I'm hating on things. It
Speaker 4: was all right, like after the first.
Speaker 1: You really you're really on your Deliya's ship right now,
Speaker 1: I know, just shipping on it.
Speaker 3: I know, no, I see. And but here's the thing.
Speaker 3: I love Nashville.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, get with you that nineteen Yeah, they
Speaker 4: get some drop the ship man.
Speaker 3: What's up with little nas X? Why didn't he have
Speaker 3: a museum? What's up?
Speaker 1: Billy Ray's probably trying to get.
Speaker 4: One horses in the front, horses in the bat that's
Speaker 4: all he's been. How pissed was Nashville that little Oh
Speaker 4: that's country? Let me try it out.
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, I suck cock.
Speaker 1: I just took them by just on fire, took them
Speaker 1: by storm, dude, number one song for nobody. They didn't
Speaker 1: want to make them a country guy. They get to
Speaker 1: Billy Ray and like, okay, now it's country even then.
Speaker 4: But all the white people that's were like, that's not
Speaker 4: It's like very cool, Hey, Billy Ray, you want to
Speaker 4: jump on this thing? And then you best biggest country
Speaker 4: song of all time. And then we got there and went,
Speaker 4: yeah you guys like that right, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gay as fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get fucked.
Speaker 3: How great is that?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, that's your celebrate that, celebrate it, you know,
Speaker 1: we do. They got a little priparade this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got they got you know, they waved the stuff.
Speaker 3: They do this, not in not in Johnny Cashville. They
Speaker 3: did it. They know they did it.
Speaker 1: They probably got a lot of restaurants like, hey, you
Speaker 1: can't come on this block.
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is opened your mind a little Nashville,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's get it's getting there on not a
Speaker 1: level of fucking Cali, But I'm the stance of what
Speaker 1: Nashville and people in the fucking Midwest and stuff kind
Speaker 1: of came from to where it's kind of going a
Speaker 1: little bit because I grew up in the fucking sticks
Speaker 1: of Missouri.
Speaker 3: Super racist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of you know, the rebel flags getting waved.
Speaker 1: Not like I mean, I don't want to shoot on
Speaker 1: my hometown, but you know, when you go and play,
Speaker 1: you're in different locker rooms and you kind of see
Speaker 1: d C and ship like that. You see things coming along.
Speaker 1: You know, they're moving moving a little bit.
Speaker 3: I feel like La Man in l A.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's ship. There's like there's like ten
Speaker 1: genders out there in l A.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beast man.
Speaker 1: Yeahs you gotta navigate.
Speaker 3: You gotta navigate. I'm trying to navigate through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 1: It's just sick. Yeah, yeah, I'm hype.
Speaker 4: I feel like my entire career but whatever, only in Nashville,
Speaker 4: Only in Nashville, Only in Nashville.
Speaker 3: Yeah, naturally, you know Johnny Cash sucks. You know said.
Speaker 1: Career. Find another one, that's right, dude. So it's just
Speaker 1: a stepping stone.
Speaker 4: Try to ruin my career, bounce off something else. I'm
Speaker 4: like little nas acts of comedy.
Speaker 3: What's up? Not your gay?
Speaker 1: Not gay? You're gonna be the greeter at the at
Speaker 1: the Johnny Cash Museum.
Speaker 3: There's a good chance. Now.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, got your community service this juice, you
Speaker 1: got anything talk about Charles Manson, Go ahead, juice. I
Speaker 1: know I took the mic from you early. I didn't
Speaker 1: mean to do that. Charles man that Once upon a
Speaker 1: Time in Hollywood, you're a big fan. You're a big
Speaker 1: fan of that.
Speaker 3: I'm a big Charlie fan.
Speaker 4: They're like, this guy's the worst, hates Johnny Cash but
Speaker 4: likes Charles Manson.
Speaker 3: Hear me out here. Uh yeah, I love Once upon
Speaker 3: a Time in Hollywood. I loved him.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. Yeah, I saw his documentary. Though.
Speaker 4: I like the sixties, like Hollywood and the sixties. My ship,
Speaker 4: I just left the culture.
Speaker 3: I like the fashion, the cars, the girls, condoms, what
Speaker 3: are we talking about? Drugs?
Speaker 4: Think it was a good time. But I thought Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 4: When I watched it, I was there a lot of
Speaker 4: people were bored.
Speaker 3: I was fascinated with like just the way it was
Speaker 3: shot and the wardrobe and everything, like I'm into that
Speaker 3: with Ship, and then I was I got done.
Speaker 4: I was like, I was all right, and then I
Speaker 4: woke them next onr I'm like, God, that movie is
Speaker 4: fucking dope. Then by the second day, I'm like, that
Speaker 4: might be the best movee I've ever seen. Like it's
Speaker 4: a slow simmer, but if you're going in thinking it's
Speaker 4: gonna be Charles Manson and the Manson family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost three hours long.
Speaker 3: See I wish it was six hours long.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I like, I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1: I mean it's I'm bossed.
Speaker 3: Even the Charles Manson stuff. I like all that, like
Speaker 3: Laurel can and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: What was that? What was that a movie? What was
Speaker 1: that movie out about the Charles Manson where they follow
Speaker 1: those women who were in prison, they're trying to they're
Speaker 1: reflecting back on their times with Charles.
Speaker 3: But was it a movie or was it a document documentary? Documentary? Well,
Speaker 3: I forget those bitches are.
Speaker 1: Crazy, dude. That ship was fucking nuts, dude.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Those girls that commit the Sharon tape,
Speaker 3: they were like seventeen and nineteen, like they were young
Speaker 3: man brainwashed.
Speaker 1: We can't I Hey, his mic isn't working. I can't
Speaker 1: hear his mike.
Speaker 3: One of them got green lighted for a parole like yesterday.
Speaker 6: Oh someone, Yeah, I know rights, Like I'm trying to
Speaker 6: get the herd to like switch it around and like not.
Speaker 1: One of those chicks that killed the lady that was pregnant.
Speaker 4: It was such a vicious mark. Here's the other thing
Speaker 4: about Charles Manson. They call him a serial killer.
Speaker 3: Never killed anyone. There's no documentation he ever killed it.
Speaker 3: He talked to people about killing.
Speaker 6: People's crazy, and he was trying to be a rock star,
Speaker 6: trying to get in with the Beach Boys, and some
Speaker 6: skills he has some You can listen to his music,
Speaker 6: like he had some tracks the Beach Boys like swore
Speaker 6: by him.
Speaker 4: He was in with Neil Young like that. He fucking
Speaker 4: was riding dying with the big big wigs and Laura
Speaker 4: Kenyon Hollywood at the time, and then it didn't end
Speaker 4: up working out, and then that's when he went all crazy.
Speaker 3: But dude, he had so many bitches.
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy to me is how he fucking cut
Speaker 1: them off from everything and they just thought he was
Speaker 1: the fucking next coming of whatever was. Here's the in
Speaker 1: prison saying, you know, I'm still I can't do that
Speaker 1: because that's gonna affect what I believe in the world's
Speaker 1: gonna end, because all that racial ship going. You know,
Speaker 1: we can't do that.
Speaker 3: Peep this Charles Manson was five to three. Did you
Speaker 3: know that? What I ty ty be?
Speaker 1: Keeping people in line? At five foot three?
Speaker 4: Dude, he would stand, he would stand on a chair.
Speaker 4: How stand on a chair? Yeah, hold, stand on a
Speaker 4: chair and yell at him. And even even when like
Speaker 4: when they when he was in prison, when you do interviews.
Speaker 3: He had to be on a stool higher than everybody
Speaker 3: in order to talk to crazy dude.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, I got my black belt in Charles
Speaker 3: Manson got there, you go, that's just stuff I appreciate
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime hit me up, man, get my number, comic
Speaker 3: can help man let me know. I come to LA
Speaker 3: will get you guys on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we get uh, we get this bus rolling, we'll
Speaker 1: fucking be out there be knocking on the doors. I
Speaker 1: actually I was trying to get on because I was
Speaker 1: seen if he was coming to Nashville. I saw you
Speaker 1: were and you're red by c A A. I don't
Speaker 1: know how fucking red by c A A you are,
Speaker 1: but I texted my agents.
Speaker 3: Yeah they sent an email.
Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, so Taylor's agent, Yeah, set my comedy
Speaker 4: agent email. He's like, hey, man, I checked this out
Speaker 4: any interest. But then I was like baby, yeah, but
Speaker 4: your Twitter. That's when I saw everyone blasphemy the other night.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then and then Chandler text me. It was like, yo,
Speaker 3: we're doing yeah video.
Speaker 1: He was like, you want to shoot him something? Fuck
Speaker 1: you let's go man. Because I tried DM and fucking
Speaker 1: THEO still hadn't seen it. THEO. If you're fucking you know,
Speaker 1: for the love of God, at least respond and laugh
Speaker 1: or make fun of me or something. You don't have
Speaker 1: tittiesna respond, but uh, but yeah, then he fucking hooked
Speaker 1: it up, dude, and look at us now, full fucking circle.
Speaker 3: Let's start our own bus.
Speaker 1: Man. Hey, come on, you're busting with the boys. I
Speaker 1: told him, like, I get like so into this. It's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: why does it? Why don't we get like a couple
Speaker 1: guys on every fucking NFL team. We get him a bus,
Speaker 1: we get him some production, and we fucking your bust
Speaker 1: of the boys on every team and.
Speaker 3: The because then he got thirty one podcast to listen to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have to listen to him. I just
Speaker 1: want to set it up. I just want to make
Speaker 1: the deal work. You want to be the Roger Goodell? Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to make it work.
Speaker 3: I feel you. It's not bad.
Speaker 1: You have to do a collective bargaining agreement. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: never know. I don't know. I'm fucking we're always trying
Speaker 1: to think of some ship.
Speaker 3: That I did get though. Man, however I can help
Speaker 3: let me know. Yeah, I appreciate you, brother, Thanks man.
Speaker 1: Drop the fucking hoop, Juicy,