WEBVTT - It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's a Superconductor

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. Hey there, everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren and we have a cool,

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<v Speaker 1>super cool episode, but it has to be super cool

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<v Speaker 1>for most applications. We're talking about superconductors today. Now, in

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<v Speaker 1>order to talk about superconductors, really we thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>necessary to kind of backtrack and talk about electronics and electricity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because to understand why superconductors are so amazing, you first

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<v Speaker 1>have to have that that basic information about electronics in general.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a fundamental problem with electronics, with with any

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<v Speaker 1>sort of circuitry, with any kind of system. Really, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just electronics. That's that's one way we can look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. But there's this problem where you pour energy

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<v Speaker 1>into a system and because of things like entropy, the

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<v Speaker 1>output you get is less than the energy you put in. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we know we cannot create or destroy energy, correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those laws of thermodynamics, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>try and break them, then the thermodynamics police show up.

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<v Speaker 1>So actually it just means that you cannot break that law.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can't break that law, if you pour

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<v Speaker 1>energy into a system and you're not getting as much

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<v Speaker 1>output as you're getting input. It's because you're losing energy

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<v Speaker 1>through some other action. Normally in almost every system that

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<v Speaker 1>we're really familiar with, that's heat. Right. Heat becomes a byproduct.

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<v Speaker 1>Energy goes to produce heat, which means that whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to do is slightly less effective than what

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<v Speaker 1>you had intended. So we see this with things like

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<v Speaker 1>car engines are a great example. You pour in fuel,

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<v Speaker 1>the engine burns up the fuel and converts that into power,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't get as much power out as you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting energy in from the source of that fuel. So

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of thing is true with electronics. And

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, the thing we talk about when we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about losing energy is called resistance. That's the resistance

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<v Speaker 1>of any particular material to the flow of electricity through

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<v Speaker 1>that material. So with that basic information there, now we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna really dive into the very very basic building blocks

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<v Speaker 1>of electronics. Yes, because the thing is that superconductors lose

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<v Speaker 1>no energy to resistance, right, They have no resistance exactly. However,

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<v Speaker 1>they require extraordinarily cold temperatures like on the magnitude of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine kelvin's which is that's cold. Yeah, when you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>zero kelvin is zero molecular movement. That's absolute zero. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's like if you were to go into the deepest

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<v Speaker 1>reaches of space and there are no molecules moving around,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is perfectly still. That's zero. Kelvin is equivalent to

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<v Speaker 1>negative two and thirty four degrees celsius or negative eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine degrees fahrenheit. Right, So that's that's that's pretty cold.

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<v Speaker 1>But to understand again about resistance, let's let's take this

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<v Speaker 1>this this tour through the building blocks of electronics. So, now,

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<v Speaker 1>the early early understanding we had about electricity, uh gave

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<v Speaker 1>us some ideas that we kind of have to work

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<v Speaker 1>around these days. Like specifically, the idea of current. Current

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<v Speaker 1>is a confusing thing for someone who has doesn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>electricity because it run the direction of current runs counter

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<v Speaker 1>to the actual flow of electrons. Right when all of

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<v Speaker 1>these terms were being created, we didn't know as much

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<v Speaker 1>about sub atomic particles a k a. Much at all

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<v Speaker 1>anything so so do today. So before we understood anything

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<v Speaker 1>about electricity, we began to learn things about about charge

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea of opposite charges attracting one another and

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<v Speaker 1>like charges repelling one another. Now we could have called

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<v Speaker 1>electrons positive charge. We could have done that. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>reason why we would have said all tron's are negatively charged.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a word, right, But that was what was

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<v Speaker 1>considered a negative charge, and then you would have the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite would obviously be a positive charge. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>could have called these left and right, or are up

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<v Speaker 1>and down or anything really, but banana and oboes. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows the obo is nature's opposite to the banana. So

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<v Speaker 1>the the these opposite charges, the negative and the positive,

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<v Speaker 1>attract one another. Now, if you were to have a

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<v Speaker 1>negatively charged material and a positively charged material, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>within the same general area of each other, the potential

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<v Speaker 1>that separated those opposite electric charges would be called voltage,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So that's when someone's talking about voltage, they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this potential that's separating the opposite electric charges,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's the capacity that they would have for

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<v Speaker 1>doing work if those opposite charges were connected together somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>So you would have to have something that would allow

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<v Speaker 1>these charge jes to mix together. So back in the

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<v Speaker 1>early days of electricity, before we really understood the mechanics

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you would think that all right, well, all

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<v Speaker 1>the positively charged particles would leap over to the negative

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<v Speaker 1>side and the negative charge particles would lead to the

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<v Speaker 1>positive side until the charges had equalized. Right, And even

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<v Speaker 1>if you had one material that was more negatively charged

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<v Speaker 1>than the other material was positively charged, the actual negative

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<v Speaker 1>charge would also even out eventually, like omosis, it would

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<v Speaker 1>kind of work itself out, so you would you would

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<v Speaker 1>end up with a larger amount of material that had

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<v Speaker 1>a negative charge. It would just be a lower negative

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<v Speaker 1>charge than the original material you started with. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>here we were still thinking about this as these little

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<v Speaker 1>charged bodies, these charged particles, both of positive and negative

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<v Speaker 1>zipping across um and you can you can measure voltage

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<v Speaker 1>by measuring the the two different points. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have one on the positive ode and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the electric node are a negative node rather, you

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<v Speaker 1>then look at those two contact points. That's where you

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<v Speaker 1>get your voltage. If you're using the same point of

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<v Speaker 1>contact and you're checking different other electrodes, uh that same

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<v Speaker 1>contact though contact you're using for all of them, we

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<v Speaker 1>usually call the ground right, that's the ground contact. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a material that does conduct electricity is called a conductor

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<v Speaker 1>for that very reason, right convenient and there, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are some materials that are very good conductors. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the metals, for example, are great conductors. How how

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<v Speaker 1>conductive material is depends on how easily it's component atoms

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<v Speaker 1>donate electrons, right right. You need to have these free electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Free electrons are this when you have an atom. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you have an electron shell or several shells, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how how large the atomist and uh, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>have free electrons that aren't tied down to anything on

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<v Speaker 1>the outer shells, then that allows electricity to pass more

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<v Speaker 1>freely because what happens is a new electron comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is oversimplifying, but a new electron comes in and

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<v Speaker 1>essentially bunks out one of the other electrons in that

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<v Speaker 1>outer shell, which then will bonk out one further down

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<v Speaker 1>the line. So if you've got a lot of free electrons,

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<v Speaker 1>then that allows this this passage to happen fairly easily.

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<v Speaker 1>And UH, that's what allows you to connect these these

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<v Speaker 1>differently charged UH materials to equal that out. We call

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<v Speaker 1>this current. But again, the current is the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>positively charged particles passing from one material to the other.

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<v Speaker 1>As we learned later, it's actually electrons that are passing through,

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<v Speaker 1>not positive charges. But we we consider stuck with that

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<v Speaker 1>the terminology which means which means that when you say current,

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually talking about the opposite direction as what the

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<v Speaker 1>electrons are really going through. So if you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a circuit's current, you are looking at it going positive

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<v Speaker 1>to negative, when in reality the electrons are going negative positive,

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<v Speaker 1>basically proving that Benjamin Franklin was not a time traveler,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Yeah, there are a lot of jokes on

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet saying that we have Benjamin Franklin to blame

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<v Speaker 1>for this misunderstanding. That again is oversimplifying it. Franklin was

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<v Speaker 1>one of but not the only. Yeah kind of point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like the mascot for electricity before we knew

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<v Speaker 1>what we could do with it. Now, current we measure

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<v Speaker 1>in ampiers or amps and an emperor is the rate

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<v Speaker 1>of flow of one coolmb of charge in one second

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<v Speaker 1>past some given point. And so that raises the question,

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<v Speaker 1>what is a coolmb. It's a whole bunch of charge. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of charge. It's actually quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of charge. But you know, we won't boil. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>technically important, no, not for not for this discussion, but

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<v Speaker 1>just know that it's a lot of charge. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you hear someone talking about a cool lomb, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of charge. Current of course does have the direction

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<v Speaker 1>as the flow of positive charges. You can think of

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<v Speaker 1>positive charge in a way as vacancies holes, positive holes

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<v Speaker 1>that could accept an electron. Right, because if if you

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<v Speaker 1>have even if you have a build up of negative particles,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's no positively charged part if there's no if aren't,

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<v Speaker 1>if there are no vacancies at another point, then those

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<v Speaker 1>that charge is just gonna keep building up. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons and nowhere to right, So that brings us

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<v Speaker 1>to the concept of an insulator. Now, an insulator is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the opposite of a conductor. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>material that charge cannot flow through those those component atoms

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<v Speaker 1>at their their electrons just want to stay put. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they usually the usually you don't have any free electrons

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside. They're all uh, they're all bonded together.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means that an incoming electron has nowhere to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So with nowhere to go, then this stuff just halts

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<v Speaker 1>the flow of electricity, and this includes things like air

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<v Speaker 1>is an insulator. Now, granted, if you were to pour

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<v Speaker 1>enough energy into air, you could ionize it and then

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a conductor. But you have to pour energy

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<v Speaker 1>into air for that to happen. That's what happens with

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<v Speaker 1>lightning strikes, that kind of thing. Otherwise it's more commonly

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's all those things you know, like like

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<v Speaker 1>rubber or glass, exactly exactly. Now we've covered conductors, we've

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<v Speaker 1>covered insulators. That brings us to semi conductors. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a term that a lot of people are familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with because semiconductors we talk about that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about electronics like microprocessors, semiconductor plants, or a

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<v Speaker 1>silicon wafer. That's what a silicon chip that has a

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<v Speaker 1>microprocessor on it. So what exactly is a semiconductor, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at the name, it kind of gives

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<v Speaker 1>it away. It's a material that can act like a

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<v Speaker 1>conductor or connect like an insulator. Now, naturally, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to just make a if you were to make

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<v Speaker 1>like a wafer of silicon, it was pure silicon, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be an insulator. But because those those electrons are

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<v Speaker 1>all tied up, right, so you can't push more electrons

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<v Speaker 1>through it. However, if you were to start introducing impurities

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<v Speaker 1>into the silicon on purpose, this isn't right right right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like phosphorus or boron are two typical ones exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you are doing a process that's called doping, and

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<v Speaker 1>the semiconductor business that's not a bad thing. You won't

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<v Speaker 1>get thrown out the Hall of Fame of Semiconductors for doping.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, doping is necessary to make a semiconductor work. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to dope a semiconductor with uh atoms

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<v Speaker 1>that have extra electrons, extra being free electrons and that

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<v Speaker 1>that outer shell, I don't mean that they're actually carrying

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<v Speaker 1>around more electronic electrons, right, yeah, like phosphorus exactly electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Phosphorus has a free electrons, then you would get what

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<v Speaker 1>it's called in type semiconductor material because it has more

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<v Speaker 1>negatively charged particles. Now, boron has what we would call

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<v Speaker 1>vacancies or holes that what electrons could flow into. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you put boron, if you introduce boron into silicon,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have availability to accept electrons. A positively charged

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<v Speaker 1>or P type exactly. And if you were to take

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<v Speaker 1>both of these types of doping and apply them to

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<v Speaker 1>one silicon wafer, so that let's just say on the

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<v Speaker 1>left side you have N type silicon and on the

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<v Speaker 1>right side of P type silicon, that would allow electrons

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<v Speaker 1>to flow across in the direction from negative to positive. Correct, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>And it would prevent the flow of electrons to go

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<v Speaker 1>from positive to negative because again those negative electrons in

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<v Speaker 1>the N type silicon will will repel any incoming electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the basis of a very specific type of

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<v Speaker 1>electronic component called the diode. Diodes are important. They're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a one way street in electronics and uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons this is in orton is when

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<v Speaker 1>you have something like alternating current. Alternating current, it's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what sounds like. It alternates direction. Remember I was saying before.

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<v Speaker 1>Current is the flow of positive charge in a circuit.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have alternating current running through it, then that

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<v Speaker 1>current is running one way and then the other way,

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<v Speaker 1>and it alternates at thousands of times per second. We

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<v Speaker 1>call it hurts. That those cycles per second, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually like twenty hurts, so twenty thousand times a second.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going pooh back and forth. Now I like that

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<v Speaker 1>sound effect. Yeah, that's the sound of electrons just zig zagging.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of our electronics don't run on alternating current.

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<v Speaker 1>They need to run on direct current. So diodes are

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<v Speaker 1>a good way of addressing that because they will only

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<v Speaker 1>allow charge to pass through in one direction. So even

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<v Speaker 1>if you have an alternating current, then it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent current from passing through one way and allow it

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<v Speaker 1>to pass through the other way. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>ways we use to to transform alternating current into direct current.

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<v Speaker 1>So right, and this problem is why you get those

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<v Speaker 1>little um, those little boxes on your electric plugs to

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<v Speaker 1>transform the alternating current coming in through your through your

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<v Speaker 1>system to be yeah, through through that the pluggy thing, outlets, outlets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a long day, it has, it has. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>giggling more than usual. We've been in a meeting for

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time. If you need to know how long.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a quick aside, check out Josh and Chuck's series

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<v Speaker 1>Trapped in a Meeting. It's very good. It's very funny,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very real. It's it's so real, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's my video debut. So check that out. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see Lauren blocking me for almost every episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I can just see like either the front of my

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<v Speaker 1>face or the back of my head and almost every shot.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, that's just me complaining. That's fine. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on to we we've we mentioned resistance. Resist is

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<v Speaker 1>this property that resists the flow of a charge, and

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on the material of the conductor, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>the flaws that that conductor might have that create resistance. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The gauge of the conductor, So example, the gauge of wire.

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<v Speaker 1>So how how much of it there is? Right, The

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<v Speaker 1>thinner the wire, the greater the resistance in general, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about copper wire and you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>smaller gauges which are actually larger wires. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why that is. I'm sure someone out there understands why

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<v Speaker 1>the gauge and size are inversely related aperture related things.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something out there, I'm sure, and I bet I

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<v Speaker 1>could have found it out easily if I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think too, but I'm sure some of our

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<v Speaker 1>electronic attrician friends out there know exactly why. Anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>larger the diameter of the wire, the lower the resistance. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is the temperature of the material itself.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, if you lower the temperature of the material,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can decrease the resistance. That's the varying basis.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that that that temperature comes in because uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he heat makes atoms bang around into each

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<v Speaker 1>other more, which which is part of what causes resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>And and on the flip side, resistance causes heat. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>those atoms are starting to bang around. That actually creates heat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's essentially friction on an atomic level or sub atomic

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<v Speaker 1>level because you're talking about electrons, but it still creates heat.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where you get this loss of energy in

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<v Speaker 1>your system or loss of output where you're not really

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<v Speaker 1>losing energy in the sense that you know it's still

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<v Speaker 1>going somewhere, it's just no longer contained within the system

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<v Speaker 1>that you have created. Right. So what does Owns law

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<v Speaker 1>have to do? Right? Ohms law is the relationship between

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<v Speaker 1>voltage and resistance. All right, So it is explained as

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<v Speaker 1>voltage equals current times resistance, or because we can switch

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<v Speaker 1>these around, current equals voltage divided by resistance. So you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the voltage across whatever the resistor itself is,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a specific component in electronic circuit or the

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<v Speaker 1>overall circuit or just a wire. And uh, that way,

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<v Speaker 1>you can if you know the voltage and the current,

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<v Speaker 1>you can determine what the resistance is. Actually, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you know any of those two, you can determine

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<v Speaker 1>the third because you know what how they relate to

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<v Speaker 1>one another. UM. Now, on top of all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>we then have the concept of power. This is that

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<v Speaker 1>output that you're getting, and power is we measure that

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<v Speaker 1>in watt's w A T T S and power released

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<v Speaker 1>into a resistor equals the voltage times the current or

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<v Speaker 1>voltage squared divided by resistance or current squared multiplied by resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>The point we're getting to is that these basic concepts

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<v Speaker 1>of electronics are all very very closely related to one another,

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<v Speaker 1>and the more we understand about them, the greater potential

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<v Speaker 1>we have to UH creating new stuff that really takes

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of Right, it was our eventual understanding of these

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<v Speaker 1>basic principles that has allowed us to kind of break

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<v Speaker 1>the physics that that or or twinge the physics them.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened was we understood things how we we understood

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<v Speaker 1>how things worked and kind of our normal, under normal

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<v Speaker 1>room temperature situation. Because because you know, early early people

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<v Speaker 1>working in electronics, early people early electronics work, they were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to plug in their xbox. No. No, the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are working on electricity, very early on, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were just learning about the principles of electricity and and

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, how these different elements relate to one another,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't necessarily have the capacity to alter things enough

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<v Speaker 1>to really see like, gosh, what would happen if we

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<v Speaker 1>super cool super cool that. Yeah, they didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to do it early early on, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>too late when they started to to really experiment with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll get into that alright. So that is our

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<v Speaker 1>down and dirty basic electronics coverage there, and now we

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<v Speaker 1>can actually look at super conductors and explain exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they are, how they work, and why they're so amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we jump into that, let's take a very

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<v Speaker 1>quick break to thank our sponsor a right back to superconductors.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've covered conductors, insulators, we've covered semiconductors, we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>about resistance. What exactly is a superconductor? All right? Technically

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<v Speaker 1>this is some sort of material that will conduct electricity

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<v Speaker 1>without resistance below a certain temperature, and you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>that resistance obviously, because again you have that loss of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You wanted to be as efficient as possible. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you could find a material that does not convert any

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<v Speaker 1>of that energy into heat and it's all output, then

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<v Speaker 1>you've just dramatically increased the efficiency of your system. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about as close to perpetual motion as we can ever

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<v Speaker 1>expect to get, which is really exciting, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>cost purposes and all kinds of all kinds of fun

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<v Speaker 1>research bits which will get into in a minute sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. In fact, the according to superconductors dot org,

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<v Speaker 1>which has a lot of really fun information about superconductors.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, UH, scientists call it a quote macroscopic

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<v Speaker 1>quantum phenomenon in the quote, which is huge literally because

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about macroscopic But but that's the things that

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<v Speaker 1>quantum phenomena. We normally think of quantum mechanics quantum phenomena

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<v Speaker 1>as happening on a subatomic scale, right, so small that

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<v Speaker 1>even our most powerful light microscope couldn't see it. You'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to use something like an electron telling microscope it's

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<v Speaker 1>highly theoretical and and all very tricky. It's really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because our laws of physics as we know it start

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down at that point. But right, but it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to figure out what's going on there because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so darn tiny. Right, Yeah, it's it's a totally different

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<v Speaker 1>set of rules than what we're used to on the

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<v Speaker 1>classic level. And to have something on the macroscopic level

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to behave under these quantum phenomena is pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So exactly what's going on, Well, let's go back a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and look at the history of learning about this. Right, so,

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<v Speaker 1>way back in nineteen eleven, a Dutch physicist whose name

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<v Speaker 1>I am now going to butcher, And I apologize to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone out there who is from the Netherlands who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to WinCE at everything. I say, um, hi k Kummerling

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<v Speaker 1>on this of Leighton University, and I bet it's Laden

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<v Speaker 1>University too, as soon as I say it's Laden because

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<v Speaker 1>Laden jars. But anyway, Uh, this physicist discovered super conductivity,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least observed it for the first time as

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<v Speaker 1>far as we know, looking at solid mercury. They he

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<v Speaker 1>had made a solid mercury wire and cooled it to

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature of a about four kelvin using liquid helium,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is about negative four hundred fifty two degrees

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<v Speaker 1>fahrenheit or negative two hundred sixty nine degrees celsius. And

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<v Speaker 1>he noticed that when he did this, its resistance suddenly disappeared. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So this was interesting. And this is the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I thought I always imagined scientists doing there,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around the lab and just saying, huh, I got

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. I wonder what happens if I do X

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<v Speaker 1>to it. You know, let's drop the temperature down to

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<v Speaker 1>almost absolute zero and see if that doesn't anything interesting. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's way more complicated than that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>like to think that that's what scientists are doing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and what's what was really going on there was

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<v Speaker 1>that um, the mercury at that temperature underwent a phase transition. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll get more into that in a second, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So then we skip ahead a little bit. That was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eleven and nineteen thirty three some German researchers Walter Meisner,

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<v Speaker 1>not the famed theater mentor, because I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of my Eisner technique different shiffering Guy Nicer and Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Oceanfeld discovered that a super conducting material will repel a

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic field. Now, this is super cool as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>keep using that I didn't mean to, and I should

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<v Speaker 1>have caught myself. It's it's really interesting. It's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've ever seen there's lots of videos on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>right of people using magnets and super cooled super conductor

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<v Speaker 1>material and they can lock the material in a levitating

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<v Speaker 1>state above the magnet, right. Or sometimes they have a

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<v Speaker 1>super conducting bass that is super cooled and then they

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<v Speaker 1>put a magnet on top of it and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to just hang in the air. Now, technically, if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually listen to the physicists who talked about this,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a great Ted talk where a guy demonstrates this eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's will link it on social I mean everyone's seen it, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll we'll link it anyway because it's still fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. Uh. He explains that technically it's not levitation,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what they call quantum lock. Uh, And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little different from that, but we'll we'll get more

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<v Speaker 1>into that in a little bit. And then you skip

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<v Speaker 1>ahead to nineteen seven, when a trio of scientists leon

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<v Speaker 1>In Cooper, John Bardine, and John Robert Schreefer proposed the

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<v Speaker 1>first successful model that explained super conductivity. This might be

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<v Speaker 1>a good time to mention that while we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>models that explain super connectivity, honestly, scientists are still learning

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<v Speaker 1>about the properties of super conductors and how they do

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<v Speaker 1>what they do, and why they operate at certain temperatures

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<v Speaker 1>better than other temperatures. So while we're describing this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and while we have superconductors in actual use around the

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<v Speaker 1>world in thousands of different applications, we still don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>everything about precisely how it's right. And when I say we,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about just me and Lauren. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about super smart people that that's their job. We're still learning.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those things that I always find exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, you know, when you know that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know everything, that always gives you that kind of tingle

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<v Speaker 1>to like you want to learn more. So their theory

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<v Speaker 1>became known as the B. C. S theory, and it

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<v Speaker 1>earned them the Nobel Prize in Physics in nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we kind of need to sort of talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what this theory says. Okay, the atoms in a conductive

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<v Speaker 1>material that have given up electrons are are are then

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<v Speaker 1>positively charged ions, right right, okay, um, and when electrons

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>are flowing through them, they're attracted to those negative negatively

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<v Speaker 1>charged electrons. Cool. Right, Cool, that's a really bad word

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to use this podcast. Okay, already having made three or

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>four times under under usual circumstances, uh, those ions kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crunching together towards the electrons that are flowing through

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<v Speaker 1>them would cause resistance, but not in superconductors. And what

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of did realized until we started getting into

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<v Speaker 1>quantum mechanics is that that resistance happens because electrons have

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<v Speaker 1>properties of both particles and waves, right this, This is

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 1>that duality thing that always got me confused when I

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<v Speaker 1>got to that point and learning about science was the

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 1>idea that something can behave as both a wave and

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<v Speaker 1>a particle. We see this a lot in quantum mechanics,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's part of the reason why it's such an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and counterintuitive field. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean honestly, my

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>brain kind of just goes, well, well, okay, that's that's fine,

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to be fair. I think a lot of string theorists

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<v Speaker 1>have that same reaction to their work. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being honest. I've seen interviews where they say, there comes

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<v Speaker 1>a point where you just have to say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>how it works, because it's how it works. It always

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<v Speaker 1>feels a little bit like double think to me. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got electrons acting like particles and waves, and um,

0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>those excited ions that are in the conductive material kind

0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of create counter ripples in this this flowing lake or

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>river of electrons, and and that winds up causing that

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>resistance I see. But in superconductors, the electrons assume a

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>nearly identical speed and direction, forming a kind of single

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>organized wave that resists that disruption from the ions I see.

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>So instead of having let's let's let's put this on

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>a macro scale. And keep in mind that whenever you

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 1>change anything from the quantum scale to the macro scale

0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and you're using an analogy, it's imperfect to say the right.

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is also an extreme oversimplification that I'm presenting

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>to you. So, but let's imagine that you have a

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>room full of people, and you have one doorway leading

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 1>out of the room, and someone walks into the room

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and says free cake and then leaves, and then everyone

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>just tries to rush the door. All right, Well, the

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:48.919
<v Speaker 1>fact that people could only fit through the door a

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>few at a time, but everyone's trying to get through there,

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that kind of represents resistance in a way. Now, let's

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>say that someone comes in and says, uh, free cake,

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>but there's plenty for everyone, so just come in in

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the same order that you, you know, walked into the room,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and everyone obeys the rules and they all just smoothly exit.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of the idea of superconductors. You've created this

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>experience where everything's happening in a very uh, very ordered,

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>controlled right. Yeah. Yeah, it's sort of like if all

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>those people were members of a dance troupe and they

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>just kind of fell into line and danced quietly out.

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:26.719
<v Speaker 1>In fact, that as analogy I've seen several times when

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at superconductors. Now, the BCS theory that we had

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned explains that the electrons travel in ever changing Cooper pairs,

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>named after leon In Cooper, one of the three of

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that ps, and that, uh so you have that leading electron.

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>The pairs have a leading electron in a following electron

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>they're both going down this pathway. Keeping in mind, electrons

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>do repel one another. Yeah, so which is where that

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>where the ever changing comes in. They kind of swap

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>around a whole bunch, right. So you've got this pair

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>going down, swappings places occasionally. Uh. And the positively charged

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>ions start to be attracted to that leading electron, which

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>means that you have a growing positive charge, which starts

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>pulling that second electron even harder. That creates this increased

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>pressure if you will of poll really right, it's pulling

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>those electrons even harder than it normally would because the

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>positive charges growing and all of this, all of these

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>different opposing forces essentially end up canceling each other out

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>so that you don't end up with resistance, right, And

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>this this is opposite to the way that resistance normally works,

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>which is so cool, not cool, so interesting. Now, keep

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>in mind this was the first working model of super conductivity,

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh, then future study would end up kind of

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>tweaking this and changing our understanding a little bit. Uh.

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>In fact, in nineteen sixty two, we then had Brian D.

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Josephson who predicted that electrical current would flow between two

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>superconducting materials even if they were separated by non superconductors

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>or even insulators. Now, that prediction that he made was

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>later on confirmed and he earned the Nobel Prize in

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Physics in nineteen seventy three, so one year after the

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>BCS team won the Nobel Prize in Physics. So clearly

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>superconductor's big important thing in physics from the fifties through

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the seventies and up through to today. Oh sure, sure,

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 1>what more research conducted in the eighties would change the

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>field all over again. But we will talk more about

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that in a moment. Yeah, yeah, we have to. We

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>have to then discuss the different major types of superconductors,

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh, they're different ways you can divide them up,

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>but the most common way is to refer to them

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>as type one and type two, which not that helpful

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>upon the surface to list actually define these Type one superconductors, Uh,

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>made out of pure metal, right, So you get this

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 1>pure toll material, whatever the metal is, and then you

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have to cool it to a point where the metal

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>exhibits zero electrical resistivity and perfect dia magnetism. Alright, so

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>we're talking now about any particular metal. It doesn't matter

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>which one it is. The temperature will will vary depending

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>upon the actual metal you're using, right, So lead is

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>different from copper, that kind of thing. But they all

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>have this they have they all have this specific critical temperature, right,

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and most of them are pretty cold, so you have

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to use something really really cold to cool them, like

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>liquid helium, which is hard to get. It's it's very

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>it's expensive, yes, and there's not that much left of it.

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, in the grand scheme of things, we don't

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>we don't have enough helium for all the stuff we

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>would like to do with helium. For one thing, they're

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.479
<v Speaker 1>all those children's parties and you think I'm joking, but

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Helium is actually being used in those helium

0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:59.800
<v Speaker 1>balloons that you see. But you can go out and

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I there are scientists who say it's a real shame

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that we're using helium to entertain children when we could

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>be using it to run m R I machines or

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a super collider or one of a thousand other devices.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So so that's one of the downsides of the type

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>one superconductors is that they do need to be cool

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to these very very low temperatures, and if they go

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 1>above that temperature, the superconductivity is broken. You can get

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it back by cooling it back down again, but the

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>actual properties it exhibits as a superconductor go away if

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the temperature goes over whatever it's critical temperature is for

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>being a superconductor. Another thing that will cause the breakdown

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>of the superconductive state is if you subject it to

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>what's called a critical magnetic field. Right, So remember we

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>we talked about diet magnetism. This means that magnetic fields

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>cannot penetrate this superconductor metal while it's in the superconductor state,

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>so you can't make It's what allows a superconductor to

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of uh float above a magnet, although with type

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>one superconductors that always tends to be wobbly. If you've

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 1>ever seen a demonstration of this, the whatever the materials

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>is going to be kind of kind of spinning and

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>end and shaking. It doesn't hold it doesn't hold a

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.320
<v Speaker 1>position very well. It does tend to wobble quite a bit.

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>But uh, if you were to introduce a magnetic field

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that is stronger than what that superconductor can yeah, yeah,

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the expel really because it's expelling magnetic field. But yeah,

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>if it's too strong a magnetic field, it again will

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>break down that superconducting state and it will just become

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a regular conductor as opposed to a superconductor. So you

0:33:48.720 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>have to maintain its critical temperature and make sure it

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is not subjected to a magnetic field above that critical limit.

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>All right. So that's Type one superconductors, which then raises

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the question, what is a Type too superconductor. Now, these

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>are made up of alloys, uh, and they have a

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>much more complex diamagnetic feature to them. Right, They're not

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>They're not as simple as type one. They actually have

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>two thresholds for critical magnetic fields. All right. So if

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>it's if the magnetic field is below the primary threshold,

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>the type two uh superconductor acts more or less like

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a type one. So in other words, if you super

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:32.879
<v Speaker 1>cool this down to below that that threshold, it will

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>behave just like it would be just as if it

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>were a Type one superconductor. Now, um, if if that

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field goes above that threshold but still is below

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the second threshold, you then have a superconductor entering into

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>what is called a vortex state, which to me just

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>sounds like it's some sort of science fiction ee like

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>pulled through the portal into another dimension. But that's not

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>exactly what's happening. It's it's pretty science fiction. It's what's

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>what's going on here is that um uh currents or

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>or whirlpools of of superconducting material will flow around spots

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of normal material. So you have these islands of conducting

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>material and these vortices of super conducting materials. So within

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the same substance, some of it is acting like a superconductor,

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>some of it's acting like a conductor. And this creates

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>really interesting properties that will that will cover in a

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 1>secure right, So that's what really makes it different. Now, granted,

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>if you were to again increase that magnetic field so

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that it goes above that second threshold, the superconductivity properties

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>breakdown down, so and and and you do have to

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>cool down the type two superconductors. Although there's been some

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>amazing work fairly recently, and that that that eighties stuff

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that I was talking about, right, that will that will

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>cover in a minute, that really kind of give us

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>some hope for future applications. Um But before we get

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 1>into all of that, I think it's important we take

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>another quick break and thank our other sponsored. All right,

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>so we talked a little bit earlier about this levitating

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.240
<v Speaker 1>effect that you can see with superconductors. It's not really levitating.

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 1>It's called quantum lock or flux pinning, right, And this

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>has to do with that vortex state that we mentioned

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a second ago. Right. This is for type two, specifically

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Type one superconductors can do this too, but as we said,

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they're very unsteady. But type two, if you keep it

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>within that critical uh boundary between those two thresholds we

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:33.279
<v Speaker 1>talked about, where it's above the type one threshold but

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>below the type two threshold, you can have this quantum

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>lock where you can put a magnet above a superconducting

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>base or a super super cooled superconductor over a magnet

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and lock it into a position where it's seemingly just floating.

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Really it is floating above the magnet or no, for

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the magnets, floating above the superconductor. However you've had it arranged.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>And that and that that Ted talk that we mentioned

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>from from two thousand eleven that probably you've seen a

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>call that that was calling it quantum levitation. You know,

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the dude just just pushed a magnet around

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of float in a circle when it

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 1>was what he had was he had a I think

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>he had a big circular bang. Yeah, it was exactly

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like a doughnut in the sense that had a band

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>of magnetic material that runs in a circle. But was

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it was just a band. It wasn't a disk or anything.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:26.919
<v Speaker 1>It was a band of this magnetic material. So, yeah,

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>like a donut. And then had this super cooled super

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>conducting material that he put He put it in place

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>above the band, so it's not touching the band at all,

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>it's floating above it. And he could actually change the

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 1>orientation of the superconductor so it could be flat, or

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>he could tilt it so suddenly it was at a

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 1>forty five degree tilt, and then he could just give

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it a little push and it would float around the

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>circle of this magnetic band, just floating as though it

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>were on a track and but not touching anything. Right,

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>So there's there's no real apart for air resistance. There's

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>no real force acting against it. So in other words,

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>it's about as close to perpetual motion as you can get.

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 1>It would just keep going around and around and around

0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>until the air resistance finally would make it stop, and

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>he even demonstrates that, uh, it is completely independent of

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>gravity as well. If you were to turn the whole

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>thing upside down, which which is pretty awesome. Uh, it

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>then floats underneath the band. But again, you can change

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the orientation of the superconducting material. And it's it's kind

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>of a mind blowing video. It's it's really terrific. Uh.

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And what's what's going on in it is that UM

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 1>so as superconductors UM cool down, they increasingly expel magnetic fields.

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>And when you when you get a type two superconductor

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>into that vortex state, UM electrons can can form these

0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of eddy currents that produce a counter field. Yeah,

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of crazy. And and so you've got this,

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 1>you've got this expelling of fields out from the super

0:39:08.360 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>conducting material. You also have the norm the quote unquote

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>normal islands of material in there that are attracted to

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>whatever the magnet is UM. And so it's the balance

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of those two that make that type to superconductor stable

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the type ones that are all wobbly. UM.

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>There's there's also been you might remember background the year

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, Uh, some some people got a whole lot

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>of attention for levitating a frog, and you know, water

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 1>and hazelnuts and all kinds of fun stuff. It was

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 1>along the same principles and and works because although technically,

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what we think of things like water in

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>organic tissue like frogs is being non magnetic um, they

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>will exhibit a very weak repulsive effect when placed in

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a very strong magnetic field. I know that I can

0:39:56.640 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be repulsed by frogs quite easily. However, if you want

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to have a fun experiment with frogs and magnetism, you

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>take a frog and you go up to your little

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 1>sister and you rub it against her hair and then

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you run. It doesn't actually do anything scientific, but it

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>can be quite amusing. Now over how stuff works. We

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>have articles that cover all sorts of stuff, and we

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>even have one on superconductors. And there was one particular

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>section of the article I wanted to quote that was

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.959
<v Speaker 1>that was just very effective. Right. This comes straight from

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>our article on superconductors. Superconductors boast more than zero resistance.

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>They also offer extremely high current carrying density, exceptionally low

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>resistance and high frequencies, very low signal dispersion, and high

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:48.720
<v Speaker 1>magnetic field sensitivity. They exclude externally applied magnetic fields exhibit

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>unusual quantum behaviors and are capable of near light speed

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>signal transmission. This combination of factors effectively rewrites the rules

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:02.280
<v Speaker 1>for electromagnetic industries and suggests numerous possible innovations, including improved

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>electric power transmission, generation and storage, smaller, more powerful magnets

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>for motors, cutting edge medical equipment, improved microwave components for

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:17.280
<v Speaker 1>communications and military applications, vastly boosted sensors, and using magnetic

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>fields to contain charged particles. So that's that's you know,

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk a little bit more about some

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of the applications, but the potential is phenomenal. Yeah. And

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and thank you to Nicholas Jervis or Gurbius, depending on

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>how you pronounce that, for for writing that excellent little

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>bit for that article on superconductivity for us. Yes, yes,

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a great read. I do recommend it. Uh. And

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 1>there are lots of different substances that can exhibit superconductivity. Uh.

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Some of them were you know, the pure substances we

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about. The metallic elements can do this if you

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>cool them to the correct temperature. Uh, some of them,

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:58.799
<v Speaker 1>some of them that are not metals can exhibit superconductivity Uranium, yeah,

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.719
<v Speaker 1>or selenium or s l con if you if you

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 1>lower the temperature enough you have to pressure. Yeah, that's

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't. If it's at just a normal one atmosphere pressure,

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't get it cold enough to do that. But

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 1>if you increase the pressures, uh, then that the combination

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>of the pressure and the temperature will have them exhibit

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>this superconductive property, and then that you have hot superconductors.

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, this is that recent, more recent research that

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 1>was begun in the eighties, and so so tell us,

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 1>tell us what hot superconductors do. Okay, So you know,

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about the idea of cold fusion, the idea

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>of having a fusion reactor that could operate at temperatures

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that are much lower than what we would expect a

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>fusion reactor to to perform at. Right. A hot superconductor

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>is kind of the opposite idea. And while we don't

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>know if cold fusion will ever really work, we do

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>know that hot superconductors are a thing. But when we

0:42:55.160 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>say hot, we're talking relative terms. It's still very, very

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>very cold. It's still cold enough to kill you if

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you were to be exposed to it, but it's not

0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>so cold as to require liquid helium to cool it. Um.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So this was something that that lots of different people

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>were working on throughout the years. Uh and you know,

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>just sort of experimenting with different combinations and materials. Again,

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>getting back to that scientist in the lab saying, Huh,

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what would happen if we did this to this. Uh.

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 1>That that first one was I believe it was discovered

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>by IBM researchers. They they presented a a superconductor of

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 1>barium lanthum, lanthanum and copper oxide um and and it

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>could achieve zero resistance at thirty five kelvin r what

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>minus two hundred and thirty eight celsius and minus three

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 1>and nine seven fahrenheit. Wow, Lauren does some wicked math

0:43:55.920 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>in her head. Yeah. And so instead of using liquid helium,

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>that meant that you could use liquid nitrogen, which is

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>much more plentiful and inexpensive, right, yes, you can, you know,

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>compare to liquid helium. Liquid nitrogen we're lousy with it,

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>right yeah. Yeah, and you can pick it up at

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the supermarket if you really. The point being that it

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>is much it really lowered the bar for what you

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 1>could make a superconductor out of, which meant that suddenly

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you could use them for a lot more applications. You know,

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>before only the most well funded applications could ever afford

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.479
<v Speaker 1>any sort of superconductor material because everything we had needed

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 1>to be cooled down so far that you had to

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>have liquid helium to do it. And there are there

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>are plenty of places out there that are using that

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of material, like the Large Hadron Collider, for example,

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>uses superconductors and it's and it's electronics in order for

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.879
<v Speaker 1>it to increase the speed of proton beams so that

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:56.319
<v Speaker 1>they can collide at massive, massive speeds and create a

0:44:56.400 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>situation that looks like a tiny micro cosmic version of

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang or shortly amediate following the Big Bang.

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess I should say the world record for the

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>hottest quote unquote superconductor was a four, and that it

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 1>was at thirty eight calvin, which is only a mirror

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>negative on five celsius and negative two eleven fahrenheit. Right,

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 1>so again still really cold to us, but downright bal

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>me because yeah, it's like a it's like a vacation

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.760
<v Speaker 1>in the tropics, really, And they were using thallium doped

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>mercuric cuperate which was comprised of the following elements. So

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>this is what you have on your shopping list if

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you want to make one of these, it's not easy

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>and most of these things are poisonous mercury which is poisonous,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:50.799
<v Speaker 1>thallium which is also poisonous, barium, calcium, copper, and oxygen.

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not something that you can actually go and put

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>together on your own. I wouldn't recommend trying fairly. No, No, Now,

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 1>your average science lab is not gonna be able to

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>produce that kind of super conductor. But then we can

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:04.959
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about what we would use this

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff for once being used already, how it's being already used. Yeah,

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>m R I I think is the probably most common

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that that's magnetic resonance imaging. Yes, so MR eyes are

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:19.479
<v Speaker 1>used to look at soft tissues, right, because X rays

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>are very good at looking at things like like your skeleton,

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.239
<v Speaker 1>but they don't they don't pick up soft tissue very well.

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 1>M R i's, however, are very good at looking at

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>soft tissue, so they became very important in the field

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of medicine. And super conductors are a great component for

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.919
<v Speaker 1>m r I machines, as Jonathan mentioned a moment ago,

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>super colliders such as the Large Hadron collider YEP, and there,

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of course there are more than just that. That's just

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>probably the most famous one that people have heard about recently.

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Magnetic levitation trains mag lev trains. There's a couple of

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>examples of these, mostly out in Japan, where the idea

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>is to use the super conductors along a track, so

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you super cool them and create this uh, this this

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:07.120
<v Speaker 1>quantum lock phenomena, and then there are magnets on the

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>actual train that can allow it to levitate above the track,

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>thus allowing it to move without that friction that would

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>normally cause the train to be less efficient and uh

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and allow it to move it on a high speed

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>um without with a relative minimum of energy input, right

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>right uh. And of course you could also make a

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 1>train the other way around, where the superconductors are on

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:33.919
<v Speaker 1>the train and the magnets are in the track. In fact,

0:47:33.960 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Japan might have examples of both. I wrote

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>an article years and years ago for Discovery News about it,

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but frankly I honestly can't remember at this point. But

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:49.680
<v Speaker 1>other things, we could use it for nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy.

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>That's that that that's just very useful in a pharmaceutical

0:47:53.680 --> 0:48:01.919
<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical research. It catches yeah, biotechnology, etcetera, etcetera. And they're

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.399
<v Speaker 1>they're looking forward to uh to maybe trying to use

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>this in more efficient forms of energy storage or energy

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 1>capture like wind turbines, right, also just other electric generators

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>in general, so that you don't lose as much of

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that electricity that you've generated through heat. So again that's

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>one of those things. You know, if we can make

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>power systems more efficient where more of the power we are,

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>more of the electricity we're generating, gets to wherever it

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:30.399
<v Speaker 1>needs to be to do work, then that's a win

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. It means that you have to consume fewer

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>resources because you don't have to worry about losing you know,

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 1>x amount of the energy you're trying to produce as heat. Right.

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Also on the on the quantum level, this could be

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:47.480
<v Speaker 1>very useful for things like quantum computers because it's it's

0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:52.879
<v Speaker 1>working on that tiny quantum scale. Yeah, quantum computers. There's

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>always a super cooling element with quantum computers as well.

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>In order to make them work, we've talked about quantum

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>computers in previous episodes, but I have a feeling we're

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>going to need to do a full episode on quantum

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>computers to really explain what the concept is and how

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>they work, because again, it gets pretty I guess Einstein

0:49:09.160 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>would call it spooky. I guess I guess he would

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>ump speaking of spooky a quantum entanglement. Superconductors are used

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 1>to create quantum entanglement, ah so, which is again a

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>very important component in things like the quantum cryptography. Now

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you have a note here that I've read I see

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>in front of me. I wanted to mention that this

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>is not anti gravity, um, you know it is. You are.

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>You are canceling out a magnetic field, right, but it's

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:46.919
<v Speaker 1>not like you have created some way like you can't

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>turn us switch. Everyone floats off the floor exactly. Yeah,

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're we're not we're not counteracting gravitons. We still

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>don't really know how gravity actually works. I mean, wait,

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>we obviously see uh, the effect of it, right, we

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>don't see the actual mechanism. Yeah. Back was a Russian

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>physicist whose name I'm not even going to attempt right now. Um,

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.200
<v Speaker 1>but but he he claimed to have successfully tested this

0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 1>device that would shield an object from gravity. UM. It

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:21.840
<v Speaker 1>involved levitating a a superconducting disc above m magnet and UM,

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 1>no one, no one in the past couple of decades

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>has figured out how has has been able to replicate

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:31.240
<v Speaker 1>this experiment. So that's not that's not what we're talking about,

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>right right. And then, of course the other note I

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>was going to mention was the one about people thought

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that we somehow reverse engineered superconductors from alien spacecraft. Yeah,

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 1>because you know what Area fifty one they were. They

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 1>were holding all those that that that alien space craft,

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and so they were You wrote that, and I wrote

0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>that whole article Area fifty one, and I don't remember

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>any alien spacecraft being in there. No. This is again

0:50:56.800 --> 0:51:00.200
<v Speaker 1>why those conspiracy theories where people thought that perhaps humans

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>are not ingenious or inventive enough to have come up

0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>with this on our own now greted. Since we already

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 1>talked about how the first experiments with super conductivity date

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.760
<v Speaker 1>back to nineteen eleven, I think we can be safe

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to say that it's not the Area fifty one reverse

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 1>engineering nonsense. Sure, However, I mean, you know it's I

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>do see the connections since we started really up pushing

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 1>pushing the technology off the ground in the nineteen fifties

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:30.080
<v Speaker 1>and nine and nine seven being the year that um oh,

0:51:30.120 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the Roswell incident. Of the Roswell incident. Also keep in

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>mind that Roswell an Area fifty one are not remotely

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 1>close clearly connected. So I this is where Jonathan says,

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, humans are amazingly smart and amazingly creative,

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and we come up with some amazing accidents. Yeah, there's

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we find out we find stuff that we weren't

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>even looking for, but it becomes really important. And I

0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 1>don't I personally, whenever I think of these reverse engineering stories,

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:05.320
<v Speaker 1>it really to me is just downplaying how how brilliant

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 1>people can be. And that kind of gets me a

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:12.440
<v Speaker 1>little upset because I've met folks who are truly geniuses

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>at specific fields and uh, and you know, I think

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.560
<v Speaker 1>it's an insult to them to say that, Oh, obviously

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>no person could have thought this up. It's too magical.

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>It must have come from somewhere else. Also, reverse engineering

0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.799
<v Speaker 1>isn't really easier necessary. I mean, yeah, because you have

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.479
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how it works in the first place.

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 1>And then it's not like you don't. You don't, just

0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 1>know it doesn't involve using a Mac computer to upload

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>of virus to a mothership. Boy, we could do a

0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:41.480
<v Speaker 1>full episode on just uh, that would be fun to do.

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes do a tech stuff episode where we just pick

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:47.000
<v Speaker 1>a science fiction film and pick apart all the technical

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and accuracies in that film. And we could do that occasionally,

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>just once in a while. Let us know. Let us

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:53.879
<v Speaker 1>know how you guys feel about that, because that could

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:56.520
<v Speaker 1>either be incredibly tiresome or really fun and I'm not

0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:58.720
<v Speaker 1>entirely sure which one. If you guys, If you guys

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:00.759
<v Speaker 1>do think that would be a fun idea, let us know,

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.439
<v Speaker 1>and I go ahead and propose it. Independent Stay could

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>be the first film that we tackle. That would be

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>a fun one, But we don't have to obviously. If

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