1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Let's give this. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: Every single day right now. In sports I keep hearing 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,319 Speaker 3: the same thing. The NBA has a tanking problem. Oh 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: my god, what are we gonna do to stop it? 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Adam Silver now saying they're gonna suggest ways they're gonna 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: look at implementing rules to stop the tank. 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: Everybody keeps screaming. 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 3: But the real answer is the NBA doesn't have a 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: tanking problem. It has an image problem. And that's what's 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: creating all of this chaos. It's bucking fits on Fox 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: Sports Radio. He's buck rising out, Jason Fitz, don't Jinger Dials. 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: It's not Saturday night. We're usually week the six to 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: eight pm Eastern on Saturday nights. But no, the boss 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: has decided that it was fine to give us the 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: shit again. To sit down in the morning's buck if 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: you had your waffles? Do we feel good this morning? Like, oh, 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: you look at me like you're too good for waffles? 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: Good sir, waffles. 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 5: I feel like that's the worst way to start your day, 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 5: Like I don't want something heavy and sweet when I'm 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: waking up. 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I. 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 5: Got I have a little green juice this morning, had 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 5: one of these little protein bars with what is this 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 5: god in an almonds and egg whites and cashews and dates. 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm feeling good, baby, Get out of here with your waffles. Buck. 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of a green juice house? No? 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of a waffle house? 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: Yes? There's a reason, like look, yes, every day I 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: started life is very boring, as you know, like I 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: eat very monotonously because I'm on a fitness journey that 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: you know well about, right, But I start every single 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: morning with two literally two cups of egg whites and 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: a protein chine. That's every single morning in my life. 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: I would give anything to start with waffles with a 44 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: little bit. 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: Of whip cream on it. 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: Like you're over here being too good for waffles on 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: a Friday morning. 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: I don't understand this and a mile cool. 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: I listen. All I need is. 50 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 5: The great, the great crew that we got at LA 51 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: making has happened this morning to give me juice with this, 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 5: with the with the imaging and all the different things 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 5: tips and tricks that they've got to keep us awake 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 5: and keep the audience engaged throughout the course of the 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 5: next three hours. I'm happy to be here, happy to 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 5: talk about this tanking problem that you think the NBA 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 5: doesn't have, and yet Adam Silver is informing thirty general 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 5: managers yesterday that the NBA plans to make anti tanking 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 5: rule changes for next season, which encompasses a variety of 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 5: different things. ESPN did some reporting on this yesterday. Seam 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 5: Sharania first round draft picks can be protected only for 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 5: top four or top fourteen plus selections. Lottery odds freeze 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 5: at the trade deadline or a later date, no longer 64 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 5: allowing a team to pick in the top four in 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 5: consecutive years and or after consecutive bottom three finishes. So 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 5: you're alleging that they're doing this not because there's an 67 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 5: actual issue, but because enough people are talking about an 68 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 5: issue that you don't think that they actually have, that 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 5: they just need to get out there and handle some 70 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: pr correct. 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: This is really simple to me too, honestly. So look, 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: by the way, we've got plenty of time this morning. 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: Every one of those proposals is damned and will absolutely 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: fall apart. So if those are Adam Silver's great ideas 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: to stop tanking, there was a great tweet yesterday from 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 3: an NBA reporter that. 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 4: Literally ripped every single one of them apart. 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: So if your answer is you can't pick in the 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: top four two straight years, well, now, what you're really 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: doing is incentivizing people to tank to get to the 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: seventh or eighth worst record if they're not in the 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: playoff hunt any more late in the season because they 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: know that they have a better shott four because we're 84 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: taking people out. Like, if tanking is really a problem, 85 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 3: you're not going to fix it. But here's here's the 86 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: thing that just stands out to me that absolutely just 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: blows my mind. 88 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: Right now, you and I, you. 89 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: Are sitting in Nashville, Tennessee, where you cover the Tennessee Titans. 90 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: You and I talk a lot of football. Everybody knows 91 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: that I'm a lifelong, diehard Raiders fan, right, I would 92 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: love everybody just take a second sometime today and go 93 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: to tankathon dot com, a site that I reference office, 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: that will tell you the current draft order in the NFL. 95 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: Ten teams. 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: Ten teams in the NFL last year finished with a 97 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: win percentage of thirty five percent or less. Ten teams. 98 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: We watched the NFL last year, give us a Raiders 99 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: Giants game where both teams were actively sitting literally everybody 100 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: like we were looking at practice squad guys that were 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: suddenly starting days after being signed. Max Crosby was shut 102 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: down in something that's now created trade rumors. Right, So 103 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 3: we're talking about ten teams and we're talking about real 104 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: viable answers for the first time in NFL history of 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: undeniable tanking. Absolutely, and that outrage lasted for I don't know, 106 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: twenty four hours. If you look at the NBA right now, 107 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: for all of the conversation about how bad the NBA is, 108 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: there are only seven teams in the NBA right now 109 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: with that same thirty five percent win percentage are less 110 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: than the NFL. The NBA doesn't have more bad teams 111 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 3: by any percentage than any other pro sports league other 112 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: than baseball, where very few teams are actually that terrible. 113 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 4: The NBA has an image problem. Think about it. If 114 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: you are an NHL fan, if you love. 115 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: Hockey, and I'm talking to like all three of you 116 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: right now listening that love the game, like, I get it. 117 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 3: But if you're a hockey fan and somebody walks up 118 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: to you and says, man, you checked out the Canucks 119 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: this year, you laugh and you just say, no, the 120 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: Canucks suck. 121 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: Why would I possibly watch the Canucks. 122 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: If you're a baseball fan and you were sitting around 123 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: last year and somebody walked up to you and said, man, 124 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: you go to any Rockies games this year? 125 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 4: Nah, they suck. They lost one hundred and nineteen games. 126 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: I'm not going to go watch the Rockies. They stink. 127 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: That's the end of the conversation. The thing of it 128 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: is that in a content conflict world where people just 129 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: love to yell, the thing that people have decided they 130 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 3: want to yell about is the NBA. So NBA heads 131 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: want to yell about the fact that it's not covered properly, 132 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 3: and then people that don't want the NBA to be 133 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: successful that will tell you I hate the NBA, yet 134 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: they haven't watched a single game of it for four 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: or five years, So how do they know if they 136 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: even like modern basketball? That guy is so loud on 137 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: social media that what you have are people that are 138 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: just screaming at the clouds about a problem that is 139 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: not unique to the NBA. A team trying to get 140 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: their way to the top of the draft is not 141 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: unique to the NBA. It's not even that big of 142 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: a problem for them versus anybody else. They just got 143 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: teams that are trying to figure out how to better themselves, 144 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 3: and that's the best path to do it in all 145 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: of sports, not just the NBA. 146 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: M come on right as well. 147 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 5: Enough, I don't think you laid it out that well 148 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 5: because I don't agree with you. I don't agree that 149 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 5: tanking is the most proven path to improve your team. 150 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 5: Like I understand that it ups your percentage, chance to 151 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: have higher draft capital, better draft capital, better chance of 152 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 5: better players, and all these different things, but it's not 153 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 5: a guarantee the way that I think a lot of 154 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: you know. I mean, to your point, people operate in extremes. 155 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: You either think that's it's the only way to improve 156 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: your football team. Like, look at Pittsburgh Steelers fans, right, 157 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 5: they are in hell because they think that the only 158 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 5: way that they're going to get out of kind of 159 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: this purgatory that they've been in where they make the 160 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 5: playoffs and then you know, they get dusted by whomever 161 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 5: they face in the wild card round and they lose 162 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 5: by fifteen or twenty points or something like that, and 163 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: they're just screaming and moaning about the idea that they 164 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 5: just don't lose enough to get game changing players and 165 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 5: specifically a franchise altar and quarterback that will come in 166 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 5: and give them the next era of great Pittsburgh, like 167 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 5: truly great championship caliber Pittsburgh Steelers football. And they're probably 168 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 5: not going to get it this time around because their 169 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 5: organization doesn't believe that that's that best way to operate. Right, 170 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: They're probably going to get Aaron Rodgerson Mike McCarthy in 171 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, which is a crazy thing to say, 172 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: but I don't think that the Pittsburgh Steelers fans actually 173 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 5: know what they're wishing for, because once you get into 174 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 5: the basement, if you're one of these teams, it is 175 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: damn hard and the NFL is different than the NBA, right, 176 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 5: The NBA is a much more correctible, course correctable thing 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 5: with simply one player, or the NFL it takes a 178 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 5: much longer, more cohesive process to put together the best 179 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: possible team. So maybe it's not an apt comparison that way, 180 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 5: but once you get into the basement, it is damn 181 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 5: hard to dig yourself out in these particular situations. 182 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: And to me, Fitzi. 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: It speaks to what you are alluding to, which is 184 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 5: an optics problem that they're trying to fix, to show 185 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 5: that they are actively trying to focus on the things 186 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 5: that their audience. A lot of their audience is saying, Hey, 187 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 5: we don't like this, we think this is broken. We 188 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 5: need you to fix this. At a silver you're a puppet. 189 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 5: You're not doing your job properly. You don't handle your 190 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: business in the league correctly. You don't have any level 191 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 5: of real accountability for these players. They don't respect the 192 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 5: way that the league is run. And you have let 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 5: the player empowerment era so overtake what the league actually is. 194 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: That you've let the thing get a bit out of hand. 195 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 5: This is a lot of the dialogue around the NBA 196 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 5: But what it really speaks to FITZI, to me is 197 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 5: a lot of the same things that I used to 198 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 5: feel about conversations around baseball, where people were trying to 199 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: give you all these different fixes for baseball, right for 200 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 5: how they're going to improve the game, and how this 201 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 5: needs to change, and how you're going to get young 202 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: people back in and invested in baseball. 203 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: All that means to me is. 204 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: That basketball is going the way of Major League Baseball, 205 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: which is your regular season games don't matter, and I'll 206 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: chime in during the playoffs when all the games actually 207 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 5: have stakes and the players actually show that they care 208 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 5: about the product that's being produced on the court or 209 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: the field. In this particular situation, I it's a struggle. 210 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 5: It's a struggle for me because I don't want to 211 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 5: see basketball head in that direction. But I feel like 212 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 5: the dialogue has so shifted away from the actual sport 213 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 5: itself and more about all the different ways that it 214 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 5: needs to be fixed, that it's just kind of going 215 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 5: the way that Major League Baseball did, where it's just 216 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: going to be relegated no longer America's pastime and then 217 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: you know, more of a niche, regional sport that way, 218 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 5: and that sucks because I'm a basketball fan, and I 219 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 5: admittedly I don't watch nearly as much NBA basketball as 220 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 5: I used to, because I turn it on every once 221 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 5: in a while, and I just I'm very disappointed. One 222 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 5: in the talent that's actually on the court, because the 223 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: load management thing is completely overtaken every part of our 224 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 5: lives in the regular season. And two the effort that 225 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: I see from the players who are actually out there, 226 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 5: and then the dialogue from the coaches afterwards where they're like, 227 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 5: I mean, Eric Spolstra, the Miami Heat one of the 228 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 5: most respected organizations, Heat culture of the one of the 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 5: most quantifiable. I mean, it's an intangible thing, right, Heat Culture, 230 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 5: but it's one of the most quantifiable, proven programs for 231 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 5: success in all of sports, not just in the NBA. 232 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 5: You got Eric Spolstra a couple of weeks ago up 233 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 5: there talking at the podium about, well, when we get 234 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: our guys back, it's going to be a completely different team. 235 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: They're resting dudes all over the place, and I'm like, well, then, 236 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 5: why care? Why would I care? If I was a 237 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 5: Miami Heat fan, why would I care about the product 238 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 5: that's on the court right now? When you're telling me, yeah, 239 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 5: just wait till we get all our guys back, Just 240 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 5: wait till we start to cycle this thing up for the. 241 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Games that actually matter. 242 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 5: And he was he wasn't saying that in so many words, 243 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 5: but that was kind of the implication that I, at 244 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 5: least I as a fan, took away from the odd 245 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 5: press conference that I see from time to time. 246 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: Look, I don't disagree with you that they have a 247 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: regular season complacency issue. I think that's very fair, and frankly, 248 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: as a fan of of the NBA and as a 249 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: fan of the NHL, I'm not particularly a baseball fanatic. Sorry, 250 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: baseball fans, I know that this is going. 251 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: To piss you off. 252 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: With My suggestion to all three of those leagues has 253 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: been the same, cut your regular season games in half, 254 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: and my belief for everyone that says you'll lose an 255 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: astronomical amount of money, my belief to that is that 256 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 3: a limited inventory creates more financial opportunity because you will 257 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: be able to get more eyeballs, which means you will 258 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: be able to sell your. 259 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: Revenue for hire on ad revenue. 260 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: You will make more money from your broadcast partners because 261 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: they will be making more money. I believe scarcity of 262 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: games will actually make up for much of the financial 263 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: gap we think of when we hear cut regular season games. 264 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: So I do believe that that is an issue that 265 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: has to be solved. My pushback to you is that, 266 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: imagine if we had what the Miami Dolphins have done 267 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: in the last week in the NBA. The Miami Dolphins 268 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: have gutted their roster, as they always intended to do 269 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: because they have a ton of big money contracts. 270 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: So they get rid of Tyreek. 271 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: Hill, they get rid of Bradley Chubb, they get rid 272 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: of several players they are going to inevitably get rid 273 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: of to a tongue of a low and they are 274 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: going to go into this season, I believe, with a 275 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: true eye on next year's draft, and they're just gonna 276 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 3: mail in this football season. Are we giving the same 277 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 3: level of outrage to what is clearly being done right 278 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: now by the NFL team that we would if that 279 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: NFL team was instead an NBA team? 280 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: And the answer to that is no. And my problem 281 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: through all of this is that I feel. 282 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: Like, genuinely, so many of them, just like our society today, 283 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: you got a ton of people that aren't impacted by 284 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: certain social issues. That are the people that are loudly 285 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: yelling about it. Oh, you gotta fix this, and you 286 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: gotta fix that. But they're not the ones that are 287 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: actually impacted. They're yelling for the people that they think 288 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: need to be yelled for. That is what happens every 289 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 3: day in the NBA. There are so many people today 290 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: that are screaming about fixing tanking that haven't watched an 291 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: NBA game in years, And if tanking is eliminated, they 292 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: still won't watch an NBA game. So if you are 293 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: out on the sport, but you're the one telling me 294 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 3: how to fix it, why should I listen? And that 295 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: voice it's become so popular for just average shows everywhere 296 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: to do. Do you know what all over the NBA 297 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: that that becomes the more clickable thing. It's not easily solvable, 298 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 3: but you know, at the end of the day, I 299 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: think it's real for the league. 300 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: Well, sure, because they're reacting to it, doesn't that give 301 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 5: it some power in and of itself? I mean, even 302 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 5: if you think it's performative, what Adam Silver is the 303 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 5: message that Adam Silver is sending thirty general managers yesterday 304 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: about the anti tanking rules that the league plans to implement. 305 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: I mean, doesn't that give it more life, more credence. 306 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: Yes, you are right, it does. We have time to 307 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 4: bring it. 308 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: So why do you think it was reacting to it? Then? 309 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: Because I think that Adam Silver is a bad commissioner. 310 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, I think 311 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: Adam Silver worries way too much about the noise from everybody. 312 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: He worries way too much about being liked, whether it's 313 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: by the players are by the fans, than he does. 314 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: About actual solutions. 315 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: And again, I read that ESPN report every single It 316 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: took me all of thirty seconds to sit there and say, 317 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: here's the work around on that, here's the work round 318 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: on that, here's the work around on that. I will 319 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: remind everybody that they've tried to fix tanking multiple times 320 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: in NBA history only to get to where we are 321 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: right now. Buck doesn't like starting his day with waffles, 322 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: but you know, Redfinn found that most of us want 323 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 3: connection with our neighbors. Start your day and start your 324 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: neighborhood with where to begin and how to strike up 325 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 3: a conversation. Start small, a wave, a smile. That's how 326 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: connection grows, maybe bring waffles. Find a neighborhood you'll love 327 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: at Redfinn dot com. 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You can usually 348 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: hang out with us six to eight pm every single Saturday. 349 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: He's buck Rising on Jason Fitz. A weird offseason coming. 350 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: In the NFL. 351 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: Before we get there, though, I gotta say, buck Man, 352 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm starting to get puckered up with these Olympic hockey matchups. 353 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: Like a couple of nights ago, I'm sitting there thinking 354 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: everything's gonna be just fine. Team USA men's going into 355 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: a Cannadas struggled a little bit, and all of a 356 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: sudden minute ago in that game, and boom, we end 357 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: up with the tie that ten sends us to overtime. 358 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: I was literally captivated. 359 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: I stood in my kitchen and I realized that I 360 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: was just standing there watching the TV at that point 361 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: for half an hour because I didn't. 362 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: Want to look away, and you knew that it was 363 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: sudden death three on three. 364 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 3: The sudden death hockey, like the sudden death three on 365 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: three is just a beautiful thing. I love that anyway, 366 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: Beginning it in the Olympics just hit different and then 367 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: all of a sudden last night, I'm sitting there thinking, Okay, 368 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: the one thing we can count on. The USA women's 369 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: team has been historically dominant. We're talking the USA women's 370 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 3: team goes into the gold medal game much closer to 371 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: the dream team than any team we've ever seen in 372 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 3: Olympic history coming up to that point, and what do we. 373 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 4: End up with. 374 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: We end with that damn all time one of the 375 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: prettiest goals I have ever seen in my life in 376 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: men's or women's hockey to seal this whole thing. 377 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: But overtime, I was not prepared for this. I need 378 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: them to like, I'm gonna get my heart checked. It's 379 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: too much drama in these Olympics. 380 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: I just wanted an easy beer game where you put 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: your feet up and you could you chant USA. 382 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 4: In the third period. Did not get to do that, 383 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: but still an epiquin. 384 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: No, you got to have a little fear. That's the 385 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: best part of sports, where you're a little afraid, where 386 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 5: you got a little pee in your parts because you're 387 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 5: scared that all of the things that you hope and 388 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 5: you wish and you pray for in sports are gonna 389 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 5: come crashing down around you, only to be rewarded with 390 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 5: one of the most iconic moments regardless of country, that 391 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 5: we have had in these Olympics. USA, USA, USA, Come on, 392 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 5: this is excellent. Between Megan Keller scoring the golden goal 393 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 5: in the three on three over time and you have 394 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 5: the setup from Hillary Knight who deflects the shot from 395 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: Laila Edwards with the goalie pulled for the game tying 396 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 5: goal with what was that like two about two minutes 397 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 5: left in the third period to give team USA life. 398 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 5: No FITZI the best moments in sports. Maybe because you're 399 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 5: a Raiders fan would just like to win comfortably for 400 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 5: once in your life. 401 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: I'd say, you just hit the nail on the head, brother, 402 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: because like, this is really simple for me. I've spent 403 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: most of my adult life watching my favorite team find 404 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 3: ways to lose. Like the weirdest thing about fandom is 405 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: that when your team sucks, you can be up by 406 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: three touchdowns going into the fourth quarter and you're. 407 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 4: Like, that leads not safe. 408 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: You can be you can be up by or you 409 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: can be down by one going into the fourth quarter 410 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh man, we're done. 411 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: We're doomed. 412 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 3: Right, Like, close games do not go your way when 413 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: your favorite team sucks. 414 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: So when I'm watching this, I'm just thinking. 415 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: By imagine playing close games, my god. 416 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I would just be a delight right like year, 417 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: week in and week out, just to that'd be a 418 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: nice change. 419 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: I'm just saying. This Olympics has been very It's been. 420 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: Interesting to me because you know, and yeah, Who's Sports 421 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: Daily where I do the brunt of my work every morning. 422 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: We've talked a lot about what's failure and what success 423 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: and it's it's really I'm never gonna be somebody that 424 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: looks at a silver medal and calls out a failure. 425 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: I'm just not wired that way, you know. But so 426 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: that's what we do in all of sports. You finished second, 427 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: and we immediately turn it into how did they fail? 428 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: Right? 429 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: And we've seen some of the great Olympians, Chloe Kim, 430 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: a couple others have come back and sort of clap 431 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: back to that mindset of like, hey, silver is not 432 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: a failure. 433 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 4: But it's been a weird Olympics. 434 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: In the sense that some of our big favorites haven't 435 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: necessarily the quad God goes out in falls right, like 436 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: we all thought that he was gonna put up a 437 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: historic figure skinning competition. 438 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: So we have some of those moments. 439 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 3: But then we have a forty one year old you know, 440 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 3: mom and Bob's leedding that takes some gold, and we 441 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: have a fifty four year old curling guy that's out 442 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: there just suddenly try to help his team. Like, there 443 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: have been so many cool stories in the Olympics, but 444 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: they're not the cool stories we expected. 445 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: So it's been a very in that sense. It's been 446 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 4: kind of a strange Olympics. 447 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: I think that's why the numbers have been huge on 448 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: it though, Like it has been a very unpredictable Olympic 449 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: game so far. 450 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 5: Well, and that's what made yesterday so thrilling. Right, they 451 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 5: USA women an absolute wagon all the way through this tournament. 452 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 5: Before playing came, they had only allowed one goal all 453 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 5: tournament before I believe the Canadian players Kristin O'Neil scored 454 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 5: that shorthanded goal early in the second period yesterday. So 455 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 5: you had been you had been getting those comfortable victories 456 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 5: you maybe you didn't expect I don't know what the 457 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: expectation was. I would I would I would be lying 458 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 5: if I said that I paid very close attention to 459 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 5: women's hockey and national teams and how much Canada understanding, 460 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 5: the Canada and the US are always going to be 461 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 5: in it when it comes to Olympic hockey at the end, 462 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 5: both on the men's and women's side. I did not 463 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 5: have an intimate knowledge of the Canadian team nor the 464 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: women's team for the US other than they've just been 465 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 5: a delight to watch and they've been slaughtering teams en 466 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: route to that gold medal round yesterday. But I think 467 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 5: that you know the build up where you have not 468 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: really been tested and then all of a sudden, Okay, 469 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 5: you're facing adversity. 470 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: How are you going to battle through? 471 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: That? 472 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 5: I think is when you get the best of these 473 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 5: Olympic athletes, or of any athlete right. 474 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: When you're when you're when you're the the. 475 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: Animal that's backed into the corner in this particular situation 476 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 5: where you whereas you're used to being the aggressor, you're 477 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: used to being the predator in this particular situation, Now 478 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you feel a bit like pray, 479 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 5: Like all right now I'm not going down this way, 480 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 5: I'm going down swinging. 481 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: That's exactly what made that so much fun to watch. 482 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 5: The Olympics have been awesome all the way through and 483 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 5: I know that there's you know, I mean, Norway is 484 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 5: absolutely killing it as far as the metal count goes. 485 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 5: For people who are following along with that, Italy is 486 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 5: the host country is obviously in terms of the total 487 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 5: metal count at this point in time, and the US 488 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: is holding its own. But I have been I'm not 489 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 5: gonna live FITZI like, I have turned on and maybe 490 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 5: it's my default because my default is to turn on 491 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 5: ESPN when it comes to like daily sports coverage, whether 492 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 5: it's you know, it's just on in the background while 493 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 5: I'm working, right, I'm like, I'm like every airport bar 494 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: in America, like it's just on in the background because 495 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 5: it's a habit. I know, I know that it's going 496 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 5: to be there, and I know that there's probably gonna 497 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 5: be something that I'm interested in, so I'll turn it on. 498 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: Olympics is different, right, because you have sports all day long. 499 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 5: You even have the recorded versions after the fact you're 500 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 5: not sure. I mean, obviously it tells you whether it's 501 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 5: live or whether that's aired previously. But you can find 502 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 5: Olympic sports coverage all day long throughout the course of 503 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 5: the of the Olympics as they're going on, which makes 504 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 5: it so much fun for sports fans because you can 505 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 5: literally find sports at any given time. But when I'm 506 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 5: looking for some level of dialogue around the around the 507 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 5: actual sports, been very disappointed, And maybe it's specific to ESPN. 508 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm just I'm going I'm going to the wrong 509 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: places seeking additional context and dialogue around the Olympics rather 510 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 5: than just watching it all the way through on NBC 511 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 5: where it's just sport after sport after sport after sport. Right, 512 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 5: they haven't really covered it on ESPN. I've been kind 513 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 5: of disappointed at that, Like I'm trying to learn more 514 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: about this when I'm coming up for air between all 515 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 5: of these Olympic events, to try and gain additional context, 516 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 5: some background, some of the underlying storylines leading into some 517 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 5: of the events that maybe I haven't I don't know 518 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 5: enough about, And more often than not, I'm greeted with 519 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 5: the thing that you and I opened with this morning, 520 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: which is like tanking coverage. 521 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: In the NBA. I don't give a damn about that. 522 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Show me the curling highlights come on well. 523 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: And so this is interesting to me because you know, 524 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: Yahoo has a partnership with NBC Sports and we have 525 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 3: Olympic correspondents that are over in Italy. So Nathan Chen, 526 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 3: the former gold medalist figure skater, has been joining the 527 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: AH Sports Daily a couple of times a week. The 528 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 3: numbers on those segments when we break them out onto 529 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: YouTube have been through the roof. And part of the 530 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: reason the numbers are through the roof when Apolo Ono 531 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: talks about speed skating and Nathan Chen talks about figure 532 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: skating for us is because they're not getting that coverage. 533 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: If you're looking for it, you're not getting it anywhere else. 534 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: So do you know that now I know I should be. 535 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 5: This is a good opportunity for you to shame me 536 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: as a friend. Go watch y'all Who's Sports Daily? Obviously 537 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 5: it's a bad job out. 538 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 4: Of it and am You can also just go to 539 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 4: YouTube and find all the clips. 540 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: But here's the funny thing about that, when you mentioned it, 541 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I've never hidden the fact that I have 542 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: many friends that work at ESPN. Still some of my 543 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: best friends still look at you work at ESPN. I 544 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: was part of ESPN for over six years. I will 545 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: never forget. At one point we were gonna have Ariel 546 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 3: Hilwane on our show when I was doing radio at ESPN. 547 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: We were gonna have Aerial on our show to talk 548 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: about some issue around UFC, and the bosses at the 549 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 3: time came back and said, Nah, nobody cares. 550 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 4: Just punt on that. The audience doesn't really care about that. 551 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 3: It was about a month later that ESPN signed their 552 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: deal with UFC, and suddenly the very same bosses came 553 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: in and said, Hey, we want you to start having 554 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: Ariel Hellwane on every Friday on your show to promote 555 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: the UFC events on ESPN. If ESPN doesn't have the 556 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: rights to it, they just don't cover it. And Olympic 557 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: rights are difficult because you can't show highlights without certain 558 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: delays and all these things. 559 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 4: So I get some of that. There is some minutia 560 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 4: to the why. 561 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: But the one thing about ESPN, and it's the reason 562 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: that there's consequence to not being on that network at 563 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: some level, because if you're not on that network, they 564 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 3: don't really have to cover you at all. I mean, 565 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: I understand Major League Baseball in ESPN couldn't come to 566 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 3: an agreement, you know, on the real package that they 567 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: have it had for many years. I do wonder what 568 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: that long term means for even baseball highlights, making it 569 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: into sports center baseball conversation that's already limited in. 570 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: ESPN at best. But the reality of it is they 571 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: track the numbers by the second there they just know 572 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 4: what works for them. 573 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: So first take is giving everybody what they want out 574 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: of first take. But to your point, they're not going 575 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: to dive into Olympics, in part because they don't they're 576 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: not really consuming it, but in part also because they 577 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: just don't have the broadcast rights to it, which forces 578 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 3: everybody to go elsewhere to find that content. 579 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 5: Well, and that's you know, it just depends on to 580 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 5: your point, like are you are you willing to go 581 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: out of your way to find that stuff because it 582 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 5: is being covered excellently in a lot of different places. 583 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 5: And I've just you know, taken away from my observation 584 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 5: of day to day sports consumption based on my habits. Okay, 585 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 5: I'm not really hearing about the thing that I'm actually 586 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 5: interested in at this time of year, which, with all 587 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 5: due respect to the NBA, is not basketball. Even though 588 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 5: I did watch probably more of the All Star events 589 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 5: than I have in the last couple of years, and 590 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 5: it sounds like a lot of people did. Based on 591 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 5: the way that it was reflected in the ratings. I'm 592 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: not entirely sure why that would be. There was nothing 593 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 5: particularly that captivated me about the All Star Weekend other 594 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 5: than oh, okay, I'll watch it. 595 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was all that well promoted. 596 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 5: This year in fact, and just happened to stumble into 597 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 5: it and was like, okay, I'll sit It's been a 598 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 5: while since I've actually sat through All Star festivities. Let's 599 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 5: see if it's as you know, it's as broken as 600 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: people like to complain about it, or if it's just 601 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 5: something that I can have on and enjoy. No to 602 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 5: your credit at Yahoo and people like Tony Kornheiser and 603 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 5: Michael Wilbon, who go out of their way to talk 604 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 5: about the Olympics, because those guys their background is Washington 605 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 5: Post columnists and covering sports across the spectrum, understand the 606 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 5: importance of it. 607 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 2: Even though you know their. 608 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 5: Slot is I mean, PTI still a very very well consumed, 609 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 5: highly consumed show. It's just you know, it's they work 610 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 5: in small windows there, and it's a different level of 611 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 5: coverage than you know, three hours in the morning or 612 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 5: however long. 613 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: The show's like get up are Uh. 614 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 4: Can I blow your mind with the technology suggestion? 615 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: You're mad? Right? 616 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 3: I tweeted this out and actually got some nice responses 617 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: from it a couple of days ago. I don't understand 618 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: in today's world why, especially for the Olympics, but really 619 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 3: for every single sport there isn't a small QR code 620 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: that's up in the corner of the screen the whole time. 621 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: And all I have to do is. 622 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: Click on that and take a picture of it, and 623 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: it takes me to a site, and that site gives 624 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: me here, here are the rules, here's the scory, here's 625 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: the background, here are the storylines, here are the stars. 626 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: And that content could all be pre produced leading up 627 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 3: to the Olympics by, in this case NBC and what 628 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 3: they're doing. I had a few people snarkily tell me 629 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: that you could simply google it. But it's a little 630 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: like Disney the minute you're in the or keep you 631 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: in the door, make sure you spend your money there. 632 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: If I'm NBC, instead of making everybody learn curling on 633 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: the fly, if I had a QR code, there was like, 634 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: all right, here's how it scored, here's how it's worked 635 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: all and it takes me to NBC's site. 636 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: It takes me to and now I'm getting click through. 637 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, my eyeballs are leading people to 638 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: my written content, my video content, everything that you need 639 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: to know about each of these sports. Frankly, even for 640 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: the NFL, there are so many people every Sunday that 641 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 3: might turn into a game of two teams they don't 642 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: watch if they just had a code that they could 643 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: click and it's like, all right, he's here are the 644 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: basics if you know nothing about football, But also here 645 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: are the storylines on these two teams so far this season, 646 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: all pre produced by the network that's actually putting these 647 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: games on. 648 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 4: I think that you get a ton of traction out 649 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: of that. 650 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think Amazon has started doing more of that. 651 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: Right. 652 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 5: They're doing mostly most of it with products that they're 653 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 5: trying to sell you on Amazon through the Thursday night 654 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: football broadcast right where the commercials are the thing with 655 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 5: the QR code or you can click on the little 656 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: link that that that's on your screen, whether you're watching 657 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 5: it on a laptop or you're Smart TV or what 658 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 5: have you. 659 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: So Amazon is doing a little. 660 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 5: Bit of this through the NFL or using the NFL 661 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 5: as a vehicle to sell more things for Amazon. 662 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: But like FITZI, that's a that's a great idea. I'm shot. 663 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 5: I'm shocked nobody's contacted you about doing something doing something 664 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 5: like that for NBC, because I mean, even if it 665 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 5: was just like a link to like an NBC podcast 666 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: where they're talking exclusively about the Olympics, that I can 667 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 5: I can take a picture of or get the link 668 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 5: and have it send me directly to whether it's Spotify 669 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 5: or Apple podcast or however you consume podcasts, your YouTube 670 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 5: channels on where they're where they are continuing the coverage on, 671 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 5: you know, all the different umbrellas that you can or 672 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: all the different branches that you can spread out on 673 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 5: some of the some of the sports that are lesser 674 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 5: consumed and less popular, because like you know, I'm thrilled 675 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 5: by the by the downhill skiing, the speed skating and 676 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 5: all these different things. I have no idea how this 677 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: stuff is scored or what the what the kind of 678 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 5: tricks that they're talking about. Because they the broadcast on NBC, 679 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 5: they do this expertly, and they obviously have brought in 680 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 5: a level of expertise to make the broadcast sound comfortable 681 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 5: and flow and informative and educational. And I'm not saying 682 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 5: that the broadcasters aren't doing a good enough job there, 683 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 5: but it's almost like I'm I'm I hear what they're saying, 684 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 5: and I'm watching the stunts and the tricks and the 685 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 5: different things that they're doing, but I'm not necessarily I 686 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 5: just don't have that in my bag as a sports fan, 687 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 5: Like I don't have that level of knowledge that they 688 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 5: do where they're talking through it very comfortably, as if 689 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 5: it's common knowledge, and I'm just sitting there and being like, sure, 690 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: whatever you tell me, Bud, Like how many if that's 691 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 5: what a backflip or you know what. Obviously I'm being 692 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 5: very dismissive on the kind of on the kind of 693 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: stunts and tricks that they're doing. And these are they're 694 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 5: much more high level and detailed names for these things, 695 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 5: but like, what the hell they're talking about. 696 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm just having fun watching. 697 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 3: The number of times every four I joke about this. 698 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 3: Every four years, Suddenly all of America is an expert 699 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: on a triple LUTs and a triple soucou. I still 700 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: don't know what those are in figure skating, but I 701 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 3: know that like, and I'm not really sure I know 702 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: the difference between one or the other. Like I know 703 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: that you know, when you're trying to do a backflip 704 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: on skates that looks really hard. But then what I 705 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 3: don't understand is some of the nuances of scoring to 706 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: your point. You know, I saw a tweet. I wish 707 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: I could find it to credit whoever they said. But like, 708 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: as somebody that watches curling for three weeks every four years, 709 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm disgusted by Canada's cheating, Like that's that's where we 710 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: are as a. 711 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: Society with the Olympics. 712 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: I think just it's sort of owning the fact that 713 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: the objective is always to get people more comfortable once 714 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: they're in the door. I think that's why great play 715 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: by play guys are capable. Great analysts on games are 716 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: capable of breaking things down in a way where you 717 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: never feel like you're being talked down to. You feel 718 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: like you're learning something, but you also feel like you're 719 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 3: talking to a buddy and you're getting a better sense 720 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: of what's going on, and by the end of the game, 721 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: you're the one that's saying, oh, man. 722 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: I can't believe that he failed for that double move again. 723 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: You know that that's what we need, I think, in 724 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 3: all of these sports because the entry point is the Olympics. 725 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: And part of the reason I'm not sure that there's 726 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 3: the carryover for four years that there could be is 727 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 3: because there's not really a follow up to that entry point. 728 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: There's not a way that takes people from good to 729 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 3: great in that process. I promised we would get there. 730 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 3: We will get there. 731 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: Next. 732 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: We are about to have one of the weirdest off 733 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 3: seasons you will ever see. 734 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 4: In the NFL. 735 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: But there is one name that's out there in the 736 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: trade rumors already that can make a difference. We'll tell 737 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: you about it next. He's Buck Rising. 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Let 748 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 3: us know the takes that you love. Let us know 749 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: who you agree with better yet who you don't agree with. 750 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 3: Go check out the YouTube channel just search two the 751 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: number two pros p R O S F s R. 752 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 4: Get out there and subscribe. Before we get into the NFL, 753 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: it is time to the tire rack. 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Well, 772 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: I watched this thing at eight in the morning on 773 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: the East Coast. 774 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 5: Cat But what does gorging on food look like for 775 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 5: you right now? Because like famously, well you know. 776 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 4: What I'm I'm still cutting. Okay, I mean I'm still 777 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 4: in the middle of. 778 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 5: My I thought that was done after the Super Bowl. 779 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 5: I'm starting to get worried. 780 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: Okay, don't get worried. I will say this. 781 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 3: We started to cut in early December and the results 782 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: started to really kick in right before the Super Bowl. 783 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 3: So then Jeff Black, my amazing trainer down in Nashville. 784 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: That is a shout out because he has changed my life. 785 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 3: Jeff Jeff came in and said, hey, man, I think 786 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: you still got room to go if you're willing to 787 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 3: keep trying. So I'm pudging. Hey, pudge you dude. 788 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 5: A like a dryer and like see what shakes and 789 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 5: circle the fat parts with a sharpie like sorority. 790 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: The people still think that was probably. 791 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: I do have to take some really awkward pictures for 792 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: him every week because you know, he's in Nashville and 793 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: I'm not, so he sees a lot of me in 794 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: my underwear. But you know what you said, Bud, You 795 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: like five nine five nine in a quarter man five 796 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 3: used to be five nine and a half. I'm shrinking 797 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: at my old age, four pounds one hundred and fifty 798 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 3: eight pounds of rock solid muscle. 799 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 4: I'm a I'm almost into single digit body fat. 800 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 6: Dude. 801 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm gonna I'm gonna 802 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be I'm small but mighty. 803 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick you up on body slam you next 804 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: time I see you in Nashville, which. 805 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: In my age will hurt my hips in my back. 806 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 5: For about say, you were more likely that you've probably 807 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 5: got some kind of calcium deficiency at this point, like 808 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 5: your bones are gonna break you get you an old man? 809 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 4: You know that I am getting old? That is that 810 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 4: is fair. 811 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: I just signed up for High Rocks too, so I'm 812 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: gonna do my first High Rocks. I'm not doing the 813 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: whole thing. I'm just doing a relay on the team. 814 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 4: So I'm my. 815 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 5: First let my gym do that. I'm like, the hell 816 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 5: is wrong. This is forty five years old. You're out 817 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 5: there with a torn hamstring, you know, doing medicine ball 818 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 5: what do they call wallball and stuff like that, after 819 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 5: running sprints and carrying sandbags and all these different things, 820 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 5: like people are inside. 821 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the only thing that I said. I 822 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 3: absolutely want the fireman's carry. I'm in for that, Like 823 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 3: I am fireman's carry all day. Like I'm good for that. 824 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 3: Don't make me lunch. I like my tiny, tiny, tiny 825 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 3: bird legs can barely handle, like I love it. Every 826 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: time somebody's like, oh here, just put this weight on 827 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 3: your while you wear this weighted vest while you lunge, 828 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, just lunges by themselves and yourselven off the 829 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 3: toilet for a week. 830 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 4: Like there's just no, there's no there's no grace for me. 831 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 4: Nobody wants to hear about this anymore. I'm sorry. He's 832 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 4: buck rising on Jason Fitz. 833 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 3: Now that we've completely gone off the rails, aj Brown 834 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 3: is in the trade rumors all over the place again. 835 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: And it's funny because now there's a video popping up 836 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: of him talking about Mike Frable and how he hated 837 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel, but Mike Frable made him better. Like, none 838 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 3: of this is accidental, right Buck? Like, So something is 839 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: broken with the Eagles and all of a sudden, look, 840 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: I don't care how we look at this offseason. The 841 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 3: number of qualified offensive coordinators that wanted nothing to do 842 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 3: with that job. 843 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 4: Says something to me. So something is bad behind. 844 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 2: Me, shocking. 845 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 5: I mean, we really didn't get into that on the 846 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 5: Saturday Show. It feels like the Eagles attempts to find 847 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 5: an offensive coordinator they ultimately settled on sewn Manyon. If 848 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, right, Yes, that is one of the 849 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 5: biggest storylines. I just got done with a Brian Dable 850 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 5: press conference on what was that Wednesday, and there was 851 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 5: reports out of Philadelphia that, like Dable never even got 852 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 5: offered the job. I don't know how many people they 853 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 5: actually offered the job to, but the optics of how 854 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 5: many people took positions in places other than Philadelphia, where 855 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 5: they are a year removed from winning a Super Bowl 856 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 5: champion championship with a lot of the same pieces and 857 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 5: parts it was. 858 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: That's a huge story. 859 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 3: When you start talking about offensive coordinator openings in Buffalo, 860 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 3: where they have Josh Allen and not much else. 861 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 4: Cook is also a great running back. I don't want 862 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 4: to say not much else, but not a lot of 863 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 4: past catching weapons. You talk about the offensive coordinator job 864 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 4: in Baltimore where they have Lamar right, like we keep 865 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 4: talking about. Man, if you've got a quarterback and a 866 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 4: couple of weapons, you are one of the most enticing 867 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: jobs on the market. I think it says something about 868 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 4: how the league views the stability of Nick Sirianni. I 869 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 4: think it says something about how. 870 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 3: The league views Jalen Hurts and how the league views 871 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 3: aj Brown in the wide receiver room. Overall, how the 872 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: league views that offensive line. I mean, they lose their 873 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 3: offensive line coach, who is a legend in the NFL 874 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: because he steps away. He'd rather just not be around 875 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 3: than be around that team. It's just so much of 876 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 3: this chaos speaks to something culturally behind the scenes. Must 877 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 3: be wrong in that building. When everybody keeps trying to 878 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: fire exit out of that thing, when you're looking for 879 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 3: the emergency exits on something where you have that much talent, 880 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 3: that just has to speak to what is perceived somewhere 881 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: to be a lack of stability or a lack of 882 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: ability to actually go in there and coach the. 883 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 5: Way you want to coach, which is interesting because like 884 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 5: it's it's feast or famine and Philly when it comes 885 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 5: to offensive coordinators, right, you either get a head coaching job, 886 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 5: you get fired. 887 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 2: It's been it's been one extreme of the other. AJ. 888 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 5: You know, it's probably worth flushing out. Like if there 889 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 5: is a team or teams plural, if there are multiple teams, 890 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 5: because there could just be one team and you mentioned 891 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 5: the head coach of that team already, Mike Rabel, that 892 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 5: makes sense for an AJ Brown trade, but we could 893 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 5: probably talk about some different landing spots for AJ because 894 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 5: there's a number of teams that could use that guy's services. 895 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 5: God knows, I'm sitting here in Nashville, Tennessee. They still 896 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 5: wish they had an AJ Brown and still curse the 897 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 5: name of John Robbinson, the general manager who traded them 898 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 5: away for what ended up being a bag of peanuts 899 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 5: after the fact, with all due respect to Trailing Burk's. 900 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: Nah, I mean there's not a lot of respect there. 901 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 3: I mean, bag of peanuts is probably he. 902 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,479 Speaker 5: Made the catch of the year in the NFL, which, 903 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 5: by the way, after he got cut from the Titans. 904 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 5: Of the Commanders caught the touchdown reception of the year 905 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 5: from Titans legend Marcus Mariota baby full circle Titans fans in. 906 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 4: Hell, Mario Pa. 907 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 3: As we learned through the broadcast repeatedly, that was a delight, 908 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 3: all right. Some of the landing spots for A. J. 909 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 3: Brown And what's it mean for the rest of the 910 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 3: free agency class. We'll tell you next Bucking Fits on 911 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.