WEBVTT - The Legacy Program, Chapter Two: How Aliens (Could) Work 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.680 From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:09.080 riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.119 learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:13.920 production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.960 Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:28.880 name is Noah. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.000 They call me Ben. Folks. We're joined as always with 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:36.480 our super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.519 are you. You are here? That makes this the stuff 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:45.280 they don't want you to know? Now, quick recap. Previously 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:50.960 on our program we dove into something called the Legacy Program. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.920 This is chapter two of a two part series we're 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.840 calling it How Aliens Could Work. So please, please, please, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.440 if you haven't checked out our first chapter, whether on 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:07.119 Netflix or your podcast platform of choice, pause here, check 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.160 that out and then just coming back to us. We 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.960 will wait. Oh, you're back. Thank you so much. Guys. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.919 The chapter one was a wild ride for us, right. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.120 Mm hmm, yeah, no, it sure was. Ziggin and Zagon 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.040 ride through. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.720 Outer space, violating the laws of physics. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.600 Well yeah, through the halls of Congress, I guess, and 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.080 the Pentagon and all these various organizations that may have 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:35.319 some form of hand in knowing about and hiding alien technology. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.760 Congress does it? No, Congress does it. No, that's the thing. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:39.920 Harry Reid knows. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:42.960 No, somebody knows. And can I just say, I think 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.080 it's a great callback to our alma mater, how stuff works, 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:49.080 calling this how stuff might work. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:53.200 There you go, that's this. So this is chapter two, 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.640 and thank you everyone, friends and neighbors for checking out 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.800 chapter one. It's a series on the alleged existence of 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.400 some thing called the Legacy Program, according to Dru believers, 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.000 as discussed in a recent documentary, The Age of Disclosure, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.560 this is a soup's top secret, compartmentalized initiative across generations, 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:17.280 across years, across agencies existing in the shadows, and the 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:21.639 mission is to locate, acquire, and spirit away remnants of 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:26.600 alien craft that have crashed to Earth, including not just technology, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:32.200 fellow conspiracy realist, but organic remains or biologics. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.960 Yeah, but that technology is the stuff that all the 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.880 corporations out there really want to know about and get 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.000 their hands on. Theoretically right, and we get. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.240 That colfusion, Yeah, let me get that hyperdrict, let me 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.000 get that zero point energy. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.359 And that's the stuff that has launched us to where 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.440 we are right now, where we're developing the robots and 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.600 the AI to power the rubets, and you know, the 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.160 eventual takeover of everything that you know and love. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.600 Stop doesn't have to be that way. We can change 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.400 the future. Man, We just got to write it up. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.400 And that's the stuff they don't want you to know. 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:14.760 We'll be right back, gentlemen, earthlings. I feel like we 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.600 owe a quick summation of Age of Disclosure for anybody 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:23.359 who didn't heed our disclaimer and didn't check out chapter 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.720 one just yet. Age of Disclosure. It's a mixtape, right, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:31.160 It's a compilation of interviews from some people who have 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:32.520 some serious bona fides. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.520 Yeah, according to whoever wrote the summation on Prime Video, 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.840 it's an explosive documentary that reveals an eighty year global 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.840 cover up of non human intelligent life and a secret 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.160 war among major nations to reverse engineer advanced technology. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:52.480 Of secret war unrelated to the Marvel universe. But that's 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.240 a nice sort of phrase, and yet somewhat related. I mean, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.600 it's definitely seems seems to be a bit of an inspiration. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.920 Well, and the only reason we really talked about it 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:04.000 is because it features testimony from thirty four different US government, 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.560 military and intelligence community insiders. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.040 Right, And we want to be clear, a lot of 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.600 these folks in the military intel community, they are former 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.960 members of those communities. And one thing that's very important, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.640 mission critical to point out here, folks, is that intelligence 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:29.080 in general is perishable. Okay, knowing secret government intelligence sometimes 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.880 I swear to whatever God exists, it is like buying 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.200 a fruit that instantly goes bad. It's like buying a 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:39.839 bunch of bananas, or. 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.600 So it's like buying an avocado avocado. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.320 Yeah, it's like buying a bunch of bananas. Because what 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:50.680 you know as a gospel, secret gospel one Thursday may 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.560 change or become irrelevant two thursdays later. So we honed 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.039 in on something that really stuck out to us, the 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:03.200 allegations surrounding a thing called the Legacy Program. And at 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.560 the bottom of our research here, I've actually I found 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.560 a really cool visual aid that talks about the process. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:14.360 We explored the alleged process of capturing alien craft, and 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:19.159 I think we had a wild ride with it. We know, 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:23.719 we knew some of what to expect as we were 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:27.520 going into chapter one, but it is fair to say 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.520 that we and hopefully you folks were collectively astonished by 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.159 the other stuff we discovered, and that's why we're continuing 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.240 this investigation in chapter two. 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.480 You guys know this. I've been rewatching the X Files, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.920 and when you go through and look at the primary conspiracy, 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.920 there the concept that there's some kind of cabal within 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.320 the US government that's unknown to the US government itself, 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.159 that is in league with extraterrestrials, and you don't really 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.520 understand why or how any of it's happening. You know, 0:05:57.560 --> 0:05:59.800 the cancer man is involved in a group of guys 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.760 that hang out in this this darkened room where there's 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.600 like a butler. I guess. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.320 Twelve. It's very Majestic twelve. I think, yeah, I think 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:10.720 it is. 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:13.520 It is meant to represent Majestic twelve in the show, 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:17.039 the fictional show The X Files. The crazy thing about 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.680 the Legacy program and what's in the documentary The Age 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.920 of Disclosure. It feels like the two things are almost 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:27.200 exactly the same thing. Or somehow Chris Carter just projected 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.400 through time and knew about this project or knew that 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.159 the Age of Disclosure was going to come out, or 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.000 the Age of Disclosure is in some weird way based 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.960 on stuff that was in the X Files, right or 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.560 could it I mean, could it be that somehow they 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.440 knew and it's the real thing. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.159 Which goes to the other conspiracy theory that's a long 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:49.520 running one. It's the idea that Big Hollywood is slowly 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:57.120 normalizing the concept of humans or earth folk encountering extra terrestrials. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.359 And I love that point. Quick visual aid for us here, folks. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.960 Age of disclosure essentially takes these kind of two separate 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:08.000 ideas and says boop, same thing, and they do it 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:08.599 very well. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.360 Which is so Big Hollywood is like soft selling us 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.760 the idea of aliens, so that when we find out 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.960 that it's real, we're like not that surprised, or we 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.440 sort of like softened warm to the idea a little bit. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.760 I'm here for that. Yeah, Hollywood does have its propaganda, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.400 and especially when they are in league with the military, 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.480 and we've talked about this plenty, when they get to 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.080 use all those vehicles and weapons and stuff in order 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:33.400 to make things that are vaguely, if not outrightly propagandist. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.800 And the idea too. With the Big Hollywood concept, or 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.800 at least the conspiracy theory surrounding it, folks, is that 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:48.280 this syop works because when true evidence of extraterrestrials is revealed, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:53.400 people won't immediately encounter that economic collapse the Bank of 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.040 England has been worried about recently. Instead, they'll say, oh, 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:00.200 this reminds me of my favorite movie, Close Encounters of 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.600 the Third Kind or. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.840 Vibes Yeah, I want I want to strike at the 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.760 heart of this concept, the Majestic twelve concept that we've 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:13.120 talked about before on the show. The idea that there 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.440 are there's a small group of people who are either 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:20.520 in top level positions within some kind of government organization, 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.720 whether that's Department of Energy, the US Air Force, name 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.600 your your group, right, and then those people are connected 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.240 with c suite people among private organizations that are like 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:36.200 government contractors. And but they're all people who are non elected, right, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.720 so they're not directly connected to this whole system of 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:43.439 representative government that we you know, that we have, and 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.400 so they can operate on their own basically, and in 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.079 a lot of ways they're above the law, or or 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:53.280 at least seem to be above the law, because you 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.160 can't take them to Congress to do things you can't 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.760 censure them for specific laws and purposes. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:00.560 They don't exists. 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.439 They're above the law. Yes, they don't exist. It's a cabal, 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.800 that's like. That's one of the things I'm still obsessed 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:11.480 with after all these years, the interlocking Vinn diagrams of 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.080 the rarefied air at the top of the socioeconomic pyramid. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.880 But we know, like right now, if you went on 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:19.640 the street and you ask people, if you asked me, 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.120 if I was on the street, hey, who's running up 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.800 these specific programs within the Department of Energy that we're 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.679 going to talk about today, I would have no idea nobody. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.000 These are not household names that anybody knows about. You know. Again, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:34.600 these are not people you vote for. These are not 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.960 people that are on anybody's radar that could theoretically be 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.120 doing some of the things that are alleged in the documentary. Again, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:46.400 that is a huge alleged, right right, but it's there. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.520 Yeah, And I don't disagree with that man on the 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:54.120 street analogy, that person on the street analogy, because who 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.040 in the audience today can just, off the top of 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:04.720 their head name named the Directorate of Science Grand Poobah 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.480 at the CIA, we had to name drop one of 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.120 the long running former bosses there in chapter one. So 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.680 it's an excellent point I agree with that we have again, 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.920 we have to establish the existence of this particular program. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:29.239 The Legacy program has yet to be officially proven or confirmed. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:34.160 But multiple nations, not just Uncle Sam, have always had 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.360 programs kind of like this, from the days of ancient 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:42.880 Empires to current era stuff. Your favorite world superpowers have 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:48.840 and are and will spend a lot of time, blood, sweat, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.000 and treasure trying to capture and retrieve any foreign technology 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.720 from a spaceship sure to a trabushe I just like 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.840 saying trebushe I just like saying. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:03.000 It doesn't gain much more foreign than than alien technology. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.719 You know, if we're talking about stuff that would be 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.720 important to know about and potentially learn from and potentially 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.320 harness or get a leg up on the opposition. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.680 With oh yeah, and and that, and that totally goes 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.880 to so things that have crashed, right like that stealth 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.600 helicopter that accidentally crash at that time we killed bin Laden, 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.120 I guess, or you know, I took him and then 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.760 buried him at sea or whatever we did. This body, 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.880 you guys have you guys see that Lonely Island produced movie. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.240 Oh gosh, what does it call. It'scott Connor Forever. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.679 And keep on keeping on, never stop it, never stop, 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:39.160 never stopping. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.320 Yeah, but that song about I think it's the Finest 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:46.000 Girl or I can't remember the action title of the song. No, no, 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:46.360 I'll do. 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:54.240 It like we've been loud. Yeah, it's beautifully written, by 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.480 the way. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.840 Oh sorry, I think about that every time I think 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.400 about that operation now with stealth helicopter Sandberg. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:04.800 Fred Armison is in the video. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:07.160 Yeah, oh yes, Oh my god, the way he looks 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.240 after his hand gets touched, it's just amazing. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:10.600 Fred. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.880 The point is there's that kind of stuff, but then 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.360 there's also the extensive corporate espionage that we've talked about 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.680 before on this show. You can go back on our 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.320 audio feed and listen to those episodes that the thing 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.679 that other countries will do to try and infiltrate private corporations, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.720 often to figure out what they're creating right, how specific 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.360 technology works, and then take it back, take that knowledge 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.000 back to their country to build something similar or the same. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.480 As well as academia, you know, which feeds a lot 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.600 of private R and D. Look at the at the 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.960 top like flattery. O'Connor said, all things that rise converge. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:52.360 I'm paraphrasing, but great author these things become interlocking. These 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.480 people do tend to know each other, they share some 0:12:55.600 --> 0:13:00.280 of the concerns. We can conclusively prove that stuff like 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:06.400 the Legacy program existed exist today. Stealth helicopters excellent example there, 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:12.360 matt nuclear sub retrieval, Russian shadow vessels. That's technology that 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.640 people already you know, everybody knows how a boat works 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:20.559 at this point. But retrieving foreign assets has always been 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.600 part of the greatest of games, even you know, onto 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:29.199 retrieving individuals like certain Latin American dictators. See how that ages. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.520 So it's well established. I guess you know. The point 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.199 that we had to say is if you're if there's 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.679 a if there really is a pro if aliens are 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.320 real and have landed on planet Earth, and there really 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.920 is a series of programs to capture them and acquire 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:48.520 their stuff, it's going to follow the same precedent. The 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.920 only difference would be maybe a higher level of secrecy, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.200 which is kind of a tall milkshake to sip. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.800 Right it is, and we've oscillated on that concept for 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.760 a long time. Is it possible to keep this kind 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.760 of thing a secret if you need this many people. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.600 I think about the number of people you would really 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:11.680 need to run a program like this, I think, And 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.520 maybe I'm wrong here, correct me if I'm right here, guys, 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.880 I think the argument coming from the Age of Disclosure 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:22.160 documentary is that these individual arms that we're about to 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.760 talk about here, the groups who let's say, pick up 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:31.320 foreign materials that have crashed, right and then safely transport 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:33.720 those to a secret location or to you know, a 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.440 base somewhere, and let's say an air force base. Then 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:42.000 the groups who are going to reverse engineer that technology. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.720 These are all separate groups working on in their own thing, right, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.240 kind of with blinders on to what everybody else is doing. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.960 So it does make me wonder if that's a strong 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.480 enough argument for Like, this is me going internally and saying, 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.160 I don't know if that's a strong enough argument for 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:00.000 me to believe, but there is something to that, because 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.120 I know with a big corporation, with any big group, right, 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:08.120 big group project, you often don't know what your coworkers 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.160 are doing or like how much work they're doing. And 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:12.200 that's just because there's not enough time in the day 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.160 to be like, hey, this is what I'm doing, this 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.320 is what I'm working on, here's the specifics, here's all 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.840 the stuff I'm touching this week. 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.680 Yeah, well if we went back into the office, Matt, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.800 then we would have much Sometimes. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.920 Yeah, sometimes need to know basis is just scheduling. That's true. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:29.720 But I love that we're putting that back up because 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.640 we talked about it in chapter one of this series, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.800 which is you know, a great comparison is the Manhattan 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:39.640 Project and oh, Gridge, there are people driving truck that 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.120 worked out, it did work out. There are people driving 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.680 trucks they don't really know what's on the truck and 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.560 they meet like one guy who unloads stuff and then 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.080 points them to a different car and they leave in 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.800 that car and they get a check later in the 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.080 mail or something. That's compartmentalization for sure. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.960 I mean we've seen evidence of that, like in this 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.400 FBI raid on the voting offices in Fulham County. There 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.800 was a video where somebody was speaking to the FBI 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.520 agents who were removing all of these documents and asking 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.720 them if they knew what they were and they seemed 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.120 to genuinely not no right that their job was not 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.840 to know. Their job was just to retrieve and to 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.760 hand it to somebody, and then they immediately referred to 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.560 them to the public relations guy who was quote unquote 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:24.880 somewhere around outside. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.920 Yes, perfect, it was bitching off airs gear enough for this? 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.360 Why was Tulca Gabbard there? I mean, it's it's the 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.480 banality of evil, ana Errant would argue. But when you 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:43.080 it also removes a bit of ownership, agency, and accountability 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.560 right from individuals in a system or in a process, 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.840 because now later something evil happens. You can be that 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.640 person who says, look, I didn't know the full lay 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.080 of the land. I didn't see the whole forest. I 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.760 was a small shrub in the forest, and my job 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.360 was to drive things from point A to point Z. 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.600 So we really can't be mad at me because I 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.679 was just the transporter. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.080 Yeah, once enough information gets out there and people are 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.040 more aware of the big picture, at a certain point 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.720 becomes complicity. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.399 One hundred percent, you know, yeah, one hundred percent. And 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:22.280 that's why we started asking ourselves with these conversations about compartmentalization. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.399 Philip conspiracy realist, We said, what would a program like 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.800 this look like? As we said, earlier, calling back to 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:33.040 our house Stuff Works Roots, we said, how would this 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:38.320 function given that there's an enormous expense involved, could you 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.800 maybe trace the money? For instance, I believe in Age 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:46.800 of Disclosure, we have Louise Elizondo and Dan Farrah, the 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:52.560 director are quote a number something north of trillions of dollars, 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.879 like more than a trillion dollars were used in the 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.560 legacy program, So how could you hide that much money? 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.679 A lot of that we talked about Katherine Austin Fits 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.080 and her allegations that the US government has somehow hidden 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:11.280 or lost like twenty trillion dollars or more to create 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.639 all kinds of underground bunkers and stuff. But what if 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.200 it's not bunkers, what if it's this kind of program. 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.520 That's an excellent question, Matt, because I remember we did 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.280 that our weekly Strange News segment where Katherine Austin Fits 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.600 alleged that the US has a twenty one trillion dollar 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:35.240 underground network of cities and compounds essentially for the one 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.960 percenters and the connected. So you can check that out 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.200 in I think we did it mid last year, twenty 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:46.840 twenty five. But gosh, what a great point that if 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.199 that is true. It has a been conclusively proven. But 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.280 what a great point about how easy it is for 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:57.200 very powerful entity to hide so much money. Right, It's 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.720 way easier for those folks than it would be for 0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:00.399 an individual. 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.159 But the money could also just be tied in to 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.920 the US Department of Energies Protection program operations, right, or 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.040 or their Office of Environment, Health and Safety and Security 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.080 or whatever's there are all these places where money could 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.359 be kind of hidden and squirrelled away just for special 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.679 access programs that we have no awareness of. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.040 Yeah, and with with our thought programs, well we are 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.480 thought experiment, we have a program. Yet, folks, I guess 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.879 this is kind of a program. That's nice. There's a 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:35.960 podcast that's nice. It's nice to think about it this way. So, okay, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.199 we're talking about these proposed cover tactics. That's something that 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.560 a lot of people who believe in the Legacy program 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.000 argues occurs. We know there is this proven precedent of 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:51.359 hiding secret initiatives behind existing agencies and sub agencies. That's 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.560 conclusively proven, that is in arguable, absolutely right, So maybe 0:19:55.560 --> 0:20:02.640 there are publicly acknowledged programs, sub agencies, departments, sub departments, 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.320 you know, stuff buried under red tape that can function 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.960 as cover for legacy program activities. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:09.840 Well, I guess my question to that, Ben is it 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.040 makes me think of the way like kind of nefarious 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:17.320 stuff is often packed or hidden inside of seemingly innocuous legislation. 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:23.200 Do you think that these entities could be discovered if 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.280 an eagle eyed citizen were to look deeply enough and 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:28.560 sift enough through the red tape or is it beyond 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:29.480 even that. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.480 That's a great question, though, I hope. So that's just 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:37.040 speaking for myself as a single entity. I do hope. 0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:41.080 So we know to your question that that kind of 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:45.040 whistleblowing has occurred in the past, so it has successfully 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.200 happened every so often. And to your point, one thing 0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:51.399 that is really interesting to all of us about the 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.919 age of disclosure is there's no shortage of voices in 0:20:56.000 --> 0:21:00.000 that documentary who claimed to be that guy who claimed 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.879 to be that whistleblower, you know, and they're just saying 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:04.359 please listen to Well, it's a. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.040 Weird situation because don't forget everybody, we do have Presidential 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.480 Policy Directive nineteen which says, hey, if you're in the 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.240 DoD or any sensitive situation in government, you can come 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.760 forward and we're not gonna We're not gonna do anything 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:21.120 to you. We're gonna protect you if you come forward. 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.720 But then you've also got things like in the Department 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:29.560 of Energy, where they've got a DOE insider threat program, 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.439 which you have to decide. Let's say I'm in the 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.440 Department of Energy, I know some stuff program, I'm gonna 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.720 I'm gonna go tell somebody right, see something, say something. 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.639 Who's gonna come for me? Is it gonna be the 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.560 folks who protect the whistleblowers or the folks that find 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:46.560 the insider threats? 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.719 Right? What happens when you snitch? And this is this 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:54.360 happens in government throughout the world to various degrees. Check 0:21:54.400 --> 0:22:00.280 out the recent the recent blood bath of Chinese leadership 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:04.280 that's occurring as we record on Friday, January thirtieth. But 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:08.720 it also consider your favorite local big corporation, which will 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:14.359 inevitably have an hr internal reporting line. Then we're just 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:18.720 going to say beware, you know, ask yourself some serious questions. 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:22.159 Maybe that's a story for another evening. 0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:25.480 I think you might be right, man. Don't forget. There's 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.960 also an Intelligence Community Whistleblow or Protection Act that exists. 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.760 So even in the intelligence community, you can theoretically come forward. 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:35.320 Scary thing is no I. 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:39.560 Mean, I mean, but yeah, but then watch out for 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.919 those little red dots right yeah, yeah, that's the wrong window. 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.560 That's exactly right, the wrong just hanging out alone or 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:48.760 in a jail cell. God, you know I'm recording. 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.399 Be careful recording by a window right now, you guys, 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:52.000 don't do that. 0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.280 Let's time stamp it gallade. Maxwell is going to go 0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:59.920 testify again. It is Friday, January thirtieth, and she is 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:00.679 still alive. 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.320 Okay, yeah, cool, and we'll let us start the clock. Yeah. 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:07.600 So there is again, there's no concrete proof of the 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.600 Legacy program, just like there's no mimetics division. Shout out 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:15.480 to all our fellow SCP fans. Since we don't have 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.199 the entirety of the picture, the view of the forest, 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.280