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Speaker 1: Renee. It's our first podcast, very excited Racket Magazine. The

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Speaker 1: podcast comes alive with a legendary first episode. Can I

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Speaker 1: say legendary?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, can say legendary in every way it's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 1: We have on the show for our first episode, Chris evert.

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Speaker 2: Let's get this right. Yeah, let's call it Chrissy because

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Speaker 2: she likes to be called Chrissy.

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Speaker 1: And it's familiar. We are now our friends. As you'll hear,

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Speaker 1: the tone is, you know, relaxed. We get Chrissy on

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Speaker 1: her front porch.

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Speaker 2: In Bookeratos, yelling at her dogs, demanding that they go

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Speaker 2: inside while she's sitting on her porch enjoying the Florida weather.

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Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad, on the eve of the French Open.

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Speaker 2: On the eve of the French before she goes over

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Speaker 2: only in the second week, because the great champions only

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Speaker 2: have to go over and commentate in the second week,

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Speaker 2: as Chrissy does, and she'll be being on a plane

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Speaker 2: and we're very thankful that she joined us before the tournament.

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Speaker 1: So listen up for our episode with Chrissy, the first

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Speaker 1: of our Recket Magazine podcast. We're grateful. She talks motherhood,

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Speaker 1: me too, tennis rivalries.

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Speaker 2: Dating and telling me how to get a date.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have her back as our dating correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she may even go to Nashram with me.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. All right, listen up, you'll love it.

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Speaker 2: And also, Chrissy's going to tell us a little story

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Speaker 2: when she absolutely smoked Billy Jean on clay. But guess

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Speaker 2: what Billy mind from it? Came back a champion.

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Speaker 1: That's what champions do. They just all right, listen to

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Speaker 1: what this champion does on our episode.

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Speaker 3: You know what, when she asked me to do something, Renee,

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Speaker 3: it's like, I got to do it.

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Speaker 4: I gotta do it, I gotta.

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Speaker 1: Do You know, she'll be a total pain in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but she wants to get some racy comments from me,

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Speaker 3: and I've got to be careful with her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it sounds like you know her very well.

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Speaker 2: I promise you I'll be gentle.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, Chrissy, thanks so much of a joining. Now listen,

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Speaker 2: you told me the other day that you were coming

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Speaker 2: from your academy just special to do this for us.

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Speaker 2: So I want to know how much actual time you

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, thank you for asking me. I

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Speaker 4: And it's it's really funny.

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Speaker 3: We started this academy, the Evertons Academy, twenty four years ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, sorry, dogs.

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Speaker 2: Is that your dog?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is it an iguana that it's racing after?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so these dogs are out need to be inside

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Speaker 1: Right, girls, unless they want to be a guest yest

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Speaker 3: No they're not, they're not. So anyway, I have two dogs,

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Speaker 3: and we started this academy, my brother John and I

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Speaker 3: I absolutely toy with them, and they sort of have

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Speaker 1: More of them should play like that. I think more

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Speaker 3: Right. Well, we didn't have power in our day, but

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Speaker 1: Listen, as a collegiate athlete, I've had the privilege of

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Speaker 2: We're going to have Jason Biggs on our podcast and

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Speaker 2: he comes down to play your charity event. You have

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Speaker 2: And one of the things I love about you so

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Speaker 3: My Foundation, and my cause is the fight against drug abuse.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're talking to you on the eve of

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Speaker 2: Yes, because Raphos we know is dominant on clay at

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Speaker 4: I was like, whoa?

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Thankfully for social media, not only does the story become

438
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, mild mannered check loses her shit on a chair,

439
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: but also simultaneously, you know, you had the shot that

440
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: she was robbed on at five all deuce, so that

441
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 1: at least that was an accompaniment to the narrative. It

442
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 1: wasn't just you know, the headlines in the newspaper the

443
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 1: next day, you know, unassuming woman murder's family next door.

444
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, I don't know, they we had

445
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: the shot and you kind of were invited to empathize

446
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, which I you know, yeah I did.

447
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe. I mean, they replayed it a few times.

448
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 3: I'm like, are you kidding me? It's inside the line,

449
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: you idiot. And if it's if there's if there's no

450
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: mark outside the line, the umpire should called in right away.

451
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 4: And between the linesmen and the umpire, it was it was.

452
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 4: It was a horrible, horrible moment for her, and it.

453
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 3: Was a terrible time in the match for her, and

454
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 3: it was a big match leading up to the French Open.

455
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: It's a big match and it was horrible. And in

456
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: saying that, it still really doesn't excuse her action. I mean,

457
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 3: that's I think she that just what. She definitely went

458
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: a little bit too far with that, because somebody could

459
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 3: have been hurt.

460
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 4: Somebody could have been hurt.

461
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: I was disappointed in the reaction, but but I did

462
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 3: have compassion for the fact that she really lost the

463
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 3: match at that point and it was very unfair.

464
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: I just I just had a thought that, oh, just

465
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: to see you do that one time in your life

466
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: would have been so great. Anyway, So speaking of her

467
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: and the French coming up, Yeah, what do you think?

468
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: I mean, who do you think is the favorite? Who's

469
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 2: your favorite? In the women's soul We don't even need

470
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: to talk about who the favorite is on the ments.

471
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 2: I mean it's just like, why don't you just if

472
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: you have any money, just put it on Rafa. But

473
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: with the women's what do you think, Chrissy?

474
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: I think there's a case for like eight players. If

475
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to put all my money on somebody, I

476
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it with a lot of conviction at this point,

477
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 3: I think, But if I were to do it, I'd

478
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 3: put my money on Simona hallap if she can have

479
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 3: a good mental attitude. Hopefully she's learned from these other

480
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 3: losses in Grand Slams, especially this time last year when

481
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: she lost to Asta Panca, that hopefully that's made her

482
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 3: want to win a Grand Slam more and more. The

483
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: fact that she's come within inches within points Australian Open.

484
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 3: Caroline was the Achi, so I think I'd have to

485
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: put my money on her. But you know what, Renee,

486
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: there's a case for Plishkava and Videlina and Kavitava and

487
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 3: wasn't the actiing Ostapenko. It's there's just a multitude of

488
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: of you know, great talent.

489
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 4: Here that on a given day, anybody could win it.

490
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: And I think it makes it more interesting, It makes

491
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: it more intriguing right now and these these all these

492
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 3: ladies have been playing great on the play, which is,

493
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: you know, kudos to them. Plus the fact that you've

494
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 3: Marina Sharapova all of a sudden is strong. Hey, you

495
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: gotta throw her in the mix for sure. Serena is

496
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: the unknown. I mean, Serena is a champion, no doubt

497
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: about it. But can she put together seven matches in

498
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: a row after not being out of the game for

499
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: a year, you know, that's that would make her superwoman

500
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: for sure, if she could do that.

501
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the obvious question, right. It kind

502
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: of gets to some of the rivalry question we were

503
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: talking about now. You know, obviously Serena's got twenty three

504
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: had she had a big rival during you know, her

505
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: time consistently you know, Maria wasn't it, Simona Hallip not.

506
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: They didn't quite line up. You know, maybe that that

507
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: is gonna who it's going to come down to. But

508
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, Serena with a kid, you're a mom, you know,

509
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: walk us through like, you know, how do you keep

510
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: your singular focus on two weeks of tennis? I'm a mom.

511
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: I can't keep a singular focus on two twenty minutes

512
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: of anything, right, Like, it's hard to imagine, you know,

513
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: a more difficult task than newly back to the tour

514
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: with a child.

515
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: I think Christy, because for me, I think the thing

516
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: that's really separated Serena through the years is her unwavering

517
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: desire to not lose a match and to I mean

518
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: to die on the court rather than luc I mean,

519
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: you know her fire. You had a similar fire, Martina

520
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: had a similar fire, Stephie, Monica. All the greats have

521
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: that that different edge, that edge. Do you think honestly

522
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: like having this child, because we know how much she

523
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: loves this kid, I mean we've seen it on Instagram.

524
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: Do you think that there's any chance and I know

525
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: Serena pretty well as well, do you think there's any

526
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 2: chance that this child will change that slight like dogged

527
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 2: determined edge on the corn.

528
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: I thought having a child would only because I know

529
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: how I felt when I had my children. I mean

530
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go outside the house, you know,

531
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be with them and breastfeed and

532
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: you know, just yeah, we need to Yeah, And I

533
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: think Serena did.

534
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 4: I think Serena hopefully she did.

535
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: I really thought it would because I don't know, because

536
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 3: it changed me and I felt like I was pretty

537
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: single minded out there too. But I'm not sure now.

538
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm not sure because I think Serena is the master

539
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: at compartmentalizing, and I think Serena as you. As you mentioned,

540
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: I think she has more of a passion, more of

541
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: a need, more pride. She she goes for she just

542
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: goes for it. And I just think that I still

543
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 3: think she has that competitive side inside of her, and

544
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know if that's changed. I

545
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 3: think that she just will have to compartmentalize and and

546
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: honestly not give her child a thought when she's out

547
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: in the court for two hours, you know, and if

548
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: anybody can do it, everybody says this, if anybody can

549
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: do it, it's going to be Serena. But you know,

550
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 3: I'm kind of more concerned right now with her winning,

551
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 3: with her match toughness. I mean, she's going to be rusty.

552
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: She hasn't really played any match. She hasn't played any

553
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: matches on clay.

554
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: Is she really no?

555
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: I don't think so, none.

556
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: On clay a single match.

557
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 3: Honestly, the field has improved. I really feel when I

558
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 3: look at Plushkaba playing Sividlina Kvitova was in the ac

559
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: ass depending on. I mean, the field is better than

560
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: when she left. And they are not intimidated by her,

561
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: and they they feel that there's no she no longer

562
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: has an edge on them, So I think there's a

563
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: lot of things stacking up against her chances at the

564
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: French Open. I feel a little differently at Wimbledon because

565
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: I think her strength will give her some free points,

566
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 3: but she's got to work on work every point, value

567
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: every point at the French Open, and I don't know

568
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: if she can do that seven.

569
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: Matches in a row.

570
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: Like I said, supernatural, supernatural.

571
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be amazing if finally the rivalry that a

572
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: lot of us sort of were hoping that Maria and

573
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: Serena would have would would come down to this tournament

574
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: now that Maria's sort of the insurgent and has won it.

575
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, that would be so cool.

576
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: I love that storyline.

577
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: I love the Sheri pov Williams rivalry because it's.

578
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: So one sided, feisty.

579
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: It is one sided, but it's so intense. Both of

580
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: them are so intense, and they're so opposite. You know,

581
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: they're just in their person that just very much like

582
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: Martina and I. You know, it's like very there's such

583
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 3: a contrast and personality and style, et cetera. And and

584
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: you get the sense that they really they don't like

585
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: each other when they're on the court, and I just

586
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a lot of intensity. I think

587
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: every buddy kind of enjoys that sort of picture and

588
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: they enjoy that event every time they play.

589
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 4: Even though it's one sided, they still enjoy it.

590
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 3: And that would be you know, two players, Maria and

591
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: Serena at there and by the way, at their best,

592
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: those are two of the mentally toughest players in the

593
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: last you know, twenty years, hands down.

594
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: No question, right, no question.

595
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: So that's why you get that added popcorn sort of intensity. Yeah,

596
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: you get that added element of and layer of competitiveness

597
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: that is like, it's just mesmerizing.

598
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 4: To watch it.

599
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to commentate when those two play

600
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: because I kind of want to be a spectator and

601
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 3: watch them.

602
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: I had an epiphany last night, Christina, and my epiphany

603
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: was your love life. Okay, because listen, let's just be honest. Okay,

604
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: both of us are a little bit of a disaster

605
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, so we're both single, and and I

606
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: was thinking, I think the key for you, and you

607
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: can give me any advice you want, but the key

608
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: for you is you got you cannot date another athlete. Okay,

609
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: ever again, yeah, no, tennis players, no skiers, no golfers.

610
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: We got to get you to New York. We got

611
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: to introduce you to an accountant or a banker. Maybe

612
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: a banker or a you know, a lawyer or some

613
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: something else. What are your thoughts of business?

614
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: A businessman?

615
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: You need?

616
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: You need a nerd.

617
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: I need a nerd.

618
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: You need to find like Serena found, like you know, I.

619
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: Need a smart guy like Serena. Wow, Okay, I need.

620
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: I need smarts and I need humor sure, and I

621
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: need kindness and I'm happy.

622
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So so should we do a bumble account for you?

623
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: No? No, again, this is social media part that I

624
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: don't like. This is the invasion of privacy that I

625
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: don't like. I have to say I've enjoyed I've been alone,

626
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: like alone, being not married the last eight years, and

627
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: it's been a really nice time for me in my

628
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 3: life because I've always been in a relationship or I've

629
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: always been married.

630
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I've had three husbands.

631
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: But then it's so funny when people bring up that

632
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: fat Christie's had three husbands. I go, well, Martina had

633
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: like fourteen girlfriends.

634
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna tell her that she comes on in the show.

635
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: I mean they were pretty much married, so you know,

636
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: lay off a little bit there.

637
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah that's true. I've had more girlfriends and you've

638
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: had husbands. So yeah, I mean we're giving a bit

639
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: of a hot time really because you.

640
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

641
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: The successful marriage to me was Andy because we were

642
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: together for twenty two years and we had three children

643
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: and we still parent and we're still great friends. And

644
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 3: so I mean I'm in a family. Okay, so it's

645
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: not in a romantic situation, but I feel like I'm

646
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: a really secure family environment, which is which is great.

647
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: But anyway, just going back to my time alone has

648
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: been just about kind of examining myself and you know,

649
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: figuring out issues that I probably should have figured out

650
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: when I was eighteen nineteen years old. This is this

651
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: is as you know, Renee, this is a tough life.

652
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: You don't live a normal life. You don't you don't

653
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: have a normal childhood. You don't go I mean I

654
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: didn't go out a lot when I was a teenager.

655
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: I was playing tournaments. I never went to college, and

656
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: I was thrown into at eighteen years old, a tour

657
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: with thirty thirty five year old women and traveling around

658
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: the world and not being not having to be accountable

659
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Speaker 3: for anything. I mean basically just to being accountable for

660
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: my tennis. So everybody does things for you, you know, whether

661
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: it's look after your money or wash your clothes or

662
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, get your meals or so it's a very

663
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: you know it really I needed to grow up at

664
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Speaker 3: this late stage of my life and you know, learned

665
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: some tools and so it's been a good it's been

666
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Speaker 3: a it's really been an eye opener for me. So

667
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: I'm in a good, peaceful place.

668
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Speaker 1: That's wonderful. And I also want to note that if

669
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: the offer is on the table, if you do want

670
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: to give Renee dating advice, I think it would help

671
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: the rest of us, you know, lift a bit of

672
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: a burden. So you know, just think about.

673
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Speaker 5: That, Okay.

674
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: I would say my advice to Renee would be here

675
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: we go, would be to be friends first before she

676
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: jumps into a relationship, because Renee is a very passionate

677
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: and very you know, you just jump into things.

678
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 4: I think, and.

679
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: You know, we love that your friends love that about

680
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: you because you are passionate about everything that you believe

681
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: and the people that you love. And but I would

682
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: just you know, just take a slow and be friends

683
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: and take your time with the relationship. That's my advice. Pierre.

684
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: Wow, I never thought i'd get dating advice on my

685
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: own podcast by Chris Evertt on Women. That's amazing, Thank you, Chrissy.

686
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Speaker 2: I will definitely go the friendship route first. There's so

687
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: so you're telling me no sex for six months?

688
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Is that is?

689
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: Do you have a chill on a chill on the

690
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 3: physical part and and the have a coffeeations and don't

691
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: be don't be so impulsive, just be you know, just

692
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: kind of be chill and friendship is important.

693
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: You get to know the person really well.

694
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Speaker 3: You know.

695
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Speaker 2: I did see a psychic recently and one of the

696
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: things that she said to me was play cool, play cool, Renee.

697
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: So I mean you and the psychic same words. That's

698
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: freaking me out right now.

699
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: Both, I mean, those two influencers saying the same thing. Okay,

700
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: but you you're so cute because you get so excited

701
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: when you find somebody that you that you like, you know,

702
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: you get really excited like a little kids. It's like

703
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: it's romantic. It's really cute to watch.

704
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be sure to call you when that happens.

705
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 4: Don't let them see it. Okay, okay, yeah.

706
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll call you. You'll be my call to tell

707
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: me to be cool.

708
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: I love it.

709
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: I was told if I want to win a Grand Slam,

710
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: I have to be Chris Evertt. Okay, and now I'm

711
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: being told if I want a serious, loving, long term relationship,

712
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 2: I gotta be cool from Chris of it. I mean,

713
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: my life has just been fucking completed, Caitlin, it's amazing.

714
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: Can you say that word on this?

715
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: Yes, you can say whatever you want?

716
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: My God?

717
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 3: What about kids that want to listen to it?

718
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: Uh, well, we'll steer them in another direction until they

719
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Speaker 1: get parental consent. I keep waiting for you to drop

720
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Speaker 1: an F bomb. Finally, after all these years.

721
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Speaker 3: Bom, I've never done that in my life in public.

722
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Speaker 3: Why would I do it now?

723
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Speaker 2: Oh, Chrissy, I've been with you after a couple of

724
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: red wines, I said.

725
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: In public, I'm not like hundreds of thousands of people

726
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Speaker 3: are gonna listen to me.

727
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna drop them.

728
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: Okay, that's so disappointing. It could have been the first.

729
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Here we'll have to settle for dating advice, which we're happy, happy,

730
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Speaker 1: to get well. Although you know, look, if we find

731
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: a writer, a nerd, a banker, you know we might

732
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Speaker 1: pass them away.

733
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Speaker 2: Would you go on a blind date if we set

734
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: you up?

735
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: Oh that's tough.

736
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: I've had friends try to fix me up up and

737
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't, I don't think so just.

738
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Speaker 4: Have I say to them, have a cocktail party with

739
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Speaker 4: a lot of people.

740
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Speaker 3: And I'm just come in and kind of like.

741
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: We're going to do that.

742
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: Look at the scene, Yeah, the scene, But can we

743
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: let's change the subject to something else?

744
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: Do you you know?

745
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm serious that I was.

746
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: You know, you had an epiphany. I didn't epiphany.

747
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: Today when I was driving to my academy, I was

748
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: thinking about women and equal rights and this whole feminism thing.

749
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: That's you know, that this whole issue about equal prize

750
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: money and about about you know, respecting women and valuing women,

751
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: and that whole subject has come up the last few years,

752
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: which I'm like, Renee, you and I. You know, we've

753
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: been in a man's We've lived in a man's world

754
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 3: a lot. I mean, from tennis to even TV broadcasting

755
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 3: is sort of like a man's world, although they're all

756
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 3: evolving a little bit. But women just want to be valued,

757
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: you know, and respected and listened to. But I was

758
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: thinking about I have three sons. You know, let's not

759
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: forget the little boys. Let's teach our little girls this,

760
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 3: but us not forget these little boys who are bullied

761
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: if they cry, or are bullied if they're sensed to.

762
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: And I think the same goes for little boys. And

763
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Speaker 3: I think we're missing that boat. We're not kind of

764
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Speaker 3: stressing that. You know, it goes both ways with little

765
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Speaker 3: girls and little boys, don't you think.

766
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And just to jump in here, I have a son.

767
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Speaker 1: I have one child, and he's four, and thinking a

768
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Speaker 1: lot about he's being raised by two mothers, you know,

769
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Speaker 1: my wife and I live in New York, and he's

770
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Speaker 1: got a lot of strong women around him. And one

771
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: of the things I hope to do for him. You know,

772
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Speaker 1: I was really upset, frankly when I saw the penis

773
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Speaker 1: on the sonogram, because I was thinking, what what am

774
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: I going to do with a boy like I want

775
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: to raise the next female president? Right, I don't know

776
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: how to. I don't know how to relate to a

777
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: man or a boy, or you know, what could I

778
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: possibly teach this kid? But I love that you brought

779
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: that up because I think now it's my responsibility as

780
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: a mom to raise a good man, to raise a

781
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: good son who respects women, who understands how to express

782
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: his feelings and doesn't have to sort of internalize that

783
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: toxic male culture where yeah, he's told that he can't

784
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: have feelings or can't be emotionally expressive and he's got

785
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: to be tough. And I think you're absolutely right to

786
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: bring that up. And I wonder, you know, you spend

787
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: a lot of time around kids at your academy, and

788
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: do you see ways to sort of take the me too,

789
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, from from the broadcast booth or from the

790
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: corporate world, or you know, certainly from the tour into

791
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, these young minds, Like how does that? Where

792
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: does the rubber hit the road for you? In terms

793
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: of of working with young players, A lot of whom

794
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: are boys at the EVERT Academy.

795
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I you know, like our girls are bolder,

796
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: and our girls are you know, more communicative, and they're

797
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: more engaging. And when I walk over to them, when

798
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: I walk over to the boys, they're like, they're so shy,

799
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: and they like, don't they don't know quite how to

800
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: view me because I'm a woman coach. And first of all,

801
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: there are not too many women coaches in tennis, so

802
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 3: when they see a woman coach, it's like they don't

803
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: they And then you know, I guess with my record

804
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: and everything, they don't know. So I I really try

805
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: to sit and have some humor with them and sort

806
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: of relax them. And and but I find that they,

807
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: they like, are more eager to listen to me sometimes

808
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: or most of the time than the girls the boys are.

809
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: And I love that. And I see the sensitivity and

810
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: I see the shyness, and I'm like, ugh, I you

811
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: know you're you're a mom of a boy.

812
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 4: I'm a mom of three boys.

813
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: I mean I kind of like kind of got a

814
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 3: little upset when my son went to Boulder and he

815
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: was interested in playing on the tennis team and they

816
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 3: didn't have a test team because of Title nine, because

817
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: its Title nine, because which is really no, the Title

818
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 3: nine is fair, but football, I mean, they took all

819
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: the scholarships. There's no tennis, there's no wrestling, there's there

820
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: are no they took like six sports away from the boys,

821
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, what you know, So I was like

822
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: sad for my son, you know, and again I the

823
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: last twenty my oldest son is twenty six years old.

824
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Speaker 3: I mean, the last twenty six years I've I've lived

825
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: in a house with three three boys and one husband

826
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Speaker 3: more or less.

827
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Speaker 4: And they're all men. They're all men.

828
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Speaker 3: You know. I'm a nurture, so I try I try

829
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 3: to as a result my boys. If anything, they are

830
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: all sensitive, and they are all understanding, and they treat

831
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: women well, and they you know, I feel like Andy,

832
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 3: thank God, was emotional. I mean, he wasn't the kind

833
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 3: of father that would say, you know, man up, stop crying,

834
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: don't be a whus, don't be a baby, you know.

835
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Speaker 4: He was.

836
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 3: He was more like, Okay, get it out, all right,

837
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: let's let's get it out. It's good signed get it out.

838
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: It'll make you feel better, clear the air, and you know.

839
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: But I do feel I feel like there's so much

840
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 3: emphasis on women and little girls. Rightly so, but let's

841
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: also add to that men and little boys and women

842
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 3: mothers are bringing up little boys. Let's just let's help

843
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: them out a little bit, you know, with some advice

844
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: and some thoughts that we are observations.

845
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Speaker 1: If anything, I absolutely love hearing you talk about that.

846
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: And I was a recipient of Title nine, playing actually

847
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve Conference at the time, the University

848
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: of Missouri, which played against Colorado the Buffaloes, And I

849
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: remember thinking, because as you know, Title nine was slowly

850
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: getting enacted at all the different schools. Instead of creating

851
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: parody between the genders by increasing a ton of women's sports,

852
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: keeping the tennis teams and keeping the soccer teams and

853
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: keeping the wrestling teams, they just cut the men so

854
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: that they didn't have to touch the football programs because

855
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: the football programs are so enormous. And I do wonder,

856
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: especially with you know, CTE and parents being a little

857
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: bit more concerned about getting their little boys playing football,

858
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: maybe it will be a scenario where some of these

859
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: teams that are smaller right can thrive, and maybe college

860
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: tennis for men can thrive again. Because I miss it.

861
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: I feel like it's only really twenty schools, but for

862
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: the women it's.

863
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Speaker 3: Tons more, and I mean and on the other on

864
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 3: the flip side, for a girl, it's like every every

865
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: single girl at our tennis academy for the last twenty

866
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: four years has graduated and gotten a scholarship at a

867
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: college for tennis, that's amazing, every single one, Wow, every percent.

868
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Speaker 3: And even if it's not Stanford, and if it's not UCLA,

869
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Speaker 3: it's still a good a good school. They're playing you know,

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Speaker 3: college tennis. And so that's the flip side. I always

871
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Speaker 3: encourage parents, I go listen, this is a great tennis

872
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 3: is a great investment because there are so many colleges

873
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Speaker 3: that take you know, that have tennis.

874
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Speaker 4: For girls that that is wonderful.

875
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Speaker 3: But in answer to your question, I find that the

876
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 3: little girls now are growing up to voice their opinion

877
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: and to be bold and to be fearless. And and

878
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: I find that the boys, again, they internalize, and they

879
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: also need to be encouraged to bring it out, even

880
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: if it's emotion, even if it's tears, even if it's frustrated.

881
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: They need to get it out too, because I think

882
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 3: the younger boys, I think you know, that will stay

883
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: with them and present problems later on in life if

884
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Speaker 3: they don't remedy that right away.

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Speaker 2: I love it, Chrissy. The thing that I think that

886
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: people will hopefully get from this also is that you know,

887
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: they sort of knew where you as a player, and

888
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: they see you do TV, but you know, when you're

889
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 2: doing television, you're talking the ex's and O is about

890
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: matches about players. But I think what hopefully people get

891
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: from this podcast a little bit today is a little

892
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: bit more of like who you really are, which is

893
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 2: incredibly sensitive. You are incredibly caring. You're a great mom.

894
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: Your boys are awesome. Like I know your family. Your

895
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: mom's amazing, you had a incredible relationship with your father.

896
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you truly are such a good person. You

897
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: are unbelievably supportive of me throughout my tennis career and

898
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Speaker 2: my broadcasting career, and everyone around you always feels important

899
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Speaker 2: to you. And you're amazing, and I hope you always

900
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: feel that from everyone.

901
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: Oh but I love you.

902
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: But I know somebody that you also love who is

903
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: part of this podcast on a regular basis, we hope

904
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: as a fashion what do we call her? Caitlin?

905
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: She's our roving fashion correspondent, someone you know and love.

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Speaker 3: Chris, I do love her.

907
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: What is the obsession with your love for for our body?

908
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: Pitt co She's beautiful and strong and opinionated and evolved.

909
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Well, Goodwood.

910
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: You know, tennis players are interesting because a lot of

911
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: tennis players, like you say, are more interested in in

912
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 3: the x's and the o's and their competition, and they

913
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: come out with the same answers. And you know, she

914
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 3: played well, and I need to work on a few things.

915
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: And but there are a few players that are very

916
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: introspective and that are that are very intellectual, and that

917
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: are very evolved and come up come out with these

918
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: philosophical sayings and and ideas, and I think she's one

919
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: of them. I think she's really like too good for

920
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: the game of tennis. She needs to go on to

921
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: things that are that are deeper, and she is. It

922
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Speaker 3: sounds like she is with you guys.

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Speaker 1: She just wrote a story kind of touching on one

924
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: of the things that you know you noted in terms

925
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: of her interest in the rest of the world. She

926
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: just was on a tour with a rock band and

927
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: wrote about it and how it was similar to the

928
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Speaker 1: tennis tour. And so with that said, I thought, you know,

929
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Speaker 1: while I have you on airon your You're trapped, just

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Speaker 1: I would extend the same invitation. So if you decided

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Speaker 1: you wanted to go, you know, live in an ashram,

932
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Speaker 1: or you wanted to go take a hot air balloon

933
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Speaker 1: ride or something. You know, if you wanted to go

934
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Speaker 1: on a series of blind dates, which it sounds like

935
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: you definitively do not. But you know, anything, the world's

936
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: your oyster. You can contribute to our magazine anytime you'd

937
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: like and and be counted among the pages along with

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Andrea Pekovich.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. She means that, she mains that, you know,

940
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 3: I am part publisher of Tennis Magazine.

941
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: So heard, I've heard that. I've heard that.

942
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caitlyn said that. But you know, but you can

943
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: give back to the general community of tests.

944
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: We don't see ourselves as competitors. We're we're complimentary.

945
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: I love the ashrom idea. That's I don't know. I'd

946
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: like to Reney. Do you want to do that one

947
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: day with me? Just like go to India and sort

948
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: of meditate and do yoga.

949
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: I would actually love to do that with you. But

950
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: just so you know, I've actually been meditating for the

951
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: last month, if you believe it or not, actually did

952
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: a course. I'm meditating every day. Chrissy, do you meditate?

953
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Speaker 4: Do I meditate? What do you think?

954
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Yes?

955
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: All the time, my whole life has been about me.

956
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: Do you don't think I meditate on the.

957
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: Court, No, I.

958
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: But there's a difference. There's like legit meditation, like twenty

959
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: minutes in the morning, twenty minutes at night. Like you

960
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: have your mantra. Do you have a mantra? You don't

961
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: tell me your mantra?

962
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: Now, I you know what.

963
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: I don't do the conventional meditation, No, no, no.

964
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Speaker 3: I have my own meditation that I can quiet myself

965
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: and I can quiet my mind.

966
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Speaker 2: I do remember seeing that face on the court.

967
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: It was like, just go, hey, look out, I work

968
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: outside the box a little bit.

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00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, And by the way, I'll go

970
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: to an ashram with you.

971
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, We've got to go.

972
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 4: Now you can bring your girlfriend to at the current one.

973
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Speaker 3: At the time, I think meditation and yoga and centering yourself,

974
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Speaker 3: I mean all that, you know, it's all it's like all.

975
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Speaker 4: Those cliches are all correct, They're.

976
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: All right, you know, right. Therapy, Oh, for sure, I've

977
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: been in therapy. I've done a lot of therapy in

978
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 3: my life, and it's it's helped me a lot. It's

979
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 3: helped me a lot because.

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Speaker 2: It just makes you think I'm gonna I'm gonna make

981
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Speaker 2: a deal. Let's if you go to an ashram in India.

982
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: I will go with you, because if we are still single,

983
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: we might need to go to an ashram just to

984
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: be able to deal with it. Okay, and you're going

985
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: to write a story about it, Clearly I'm not because

986
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: I'm going to be meditating over there. That's a deal.

987
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's a deal. You can pay for it.

988
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: So, as you just heard, everybody loves Peko, Chris loves Peko.

989
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: I guess it's probably time this week that we hear

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Speaker 1: from Pekko.

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Speaker 2: It is time that we hear from fashion correspondent Andrea Petkovich, live.

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Speaker 1: With a report from her.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to Fashion with Andrea Petkovich. Hello from Paris, Cosmopolitan

994
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: listener of Racket magazine. Everything and nothing has changed here.

995
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 5: Men still look like confused professors with a lesser fair attitude,

996
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 5: disheveled hair and unshaved faces, wearing Chimi's woolen sweaters and

997
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 5: navy blue blazers on top. Female residents of Paris still

998
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 5: up for neutral colors in their clothing, a strong red

999
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 5: lip in their makeup, and a sexy, nonchalant fringe to

1000
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 5: go with a hairstyle, and generally The motto in Paris

1001
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 5: is less is more, and if you do more, you're

1002
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 5: clearly a tourist. It's not Parisian fashion if not at

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Speaker 5: least one of your accessory dou cheois is male and

1004
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 5: you put in a lot of effort to look effortless.

1005
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 5: Haven't started smoking yet? Now is the time and this

1006
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 5: is the place to do. So pick out your favorite scarf,

1007
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 5: jump on a moped where your favorite flats and head

1008
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 5: to the French open where to le Monde waits just

1009
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 5: for you. And out of fashion news, Racket Magazine's favorite

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Speaker 5: hipster and tennis fashion icon Benoa Pere has blessed the

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00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 5: world with a platinum blonde hairdoo. He pairs attention wordplay

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00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: with a wild beard underneath. We from Rackets Fashion Department

1013
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 5: say bien fed to you, messieur, and may the odds

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00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 5: be ever in your favor when it comes to style.

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Speaker 5: Hashtag transsetter reporting life and exclusively from Paris Friends. I

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Speaker 5: am Petco and this was fashion.

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Speaker 1: And that's it for this episode of the Racket Magazine podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co

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00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by internationally

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Speaker 1: renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to Tim Or, Jerry, Taylor Dalton,

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Speaker 1: and the team at ACAST. Find us at racketmag dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash podcast, and subscribe to us at any of your

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Speaker 1: favorite podcatchers.