1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hello, and welp into food stuff. I'm any Rees and 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren bog Obam, and today we're talking about the popsicle, 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: ice pop and other quiescently frozen ice pop desserts. Yes, 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: because we were not sued yet. We had the Derby 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Pie people, but the popsical people. I don't know. It's 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: another risk that we're taking. It is. We take a 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: lot of deep risks on the show. It's all for you, 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: it really is, so. I mean, we're just putting our 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: necks on the line to tell you about these frozen 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: streets of the summer. One might call them if one 11 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: wanted to, if one so dared, if one dared popsicles, 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: I I pluralized it. I know the popsicle on our 13 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: studio door. Okay, okay, all of this begs the question 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: or what why are we going through this verbal uh acrobatics, 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: these verbal acrobatics. What is a popsicle or a popsicle? 16 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: What is it? This is a llegal quandary, a legal quandary. 17 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: And Lauren, since I've already in trouble with the law, 18 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: perhaps you should take this on all right, Well, legally, 19 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: a popsicle is a brand of quiescently frozen confections a 20 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: k A. Flavored ice, pops quiescently frozen. I'm coming back 21 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: to it, okay. In the parlance of our times, popsicles 22 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: are usually fruit juice or fruit flavored water with or 23 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: without added sweeteners, flavorings, colorings, and or texturizers that's been 24 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: frozen in place into an oblong shape with a sturdy 25 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: flat stick stuck part way through the center to act 26 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: a handle. And the sticks popsicles, and yes, this is 27 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: on the Popsicle official Popsicle website. The sticks that they 28 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: use are traditionally birch wood. And yes, popsicle is what 29 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: you would call a proprietary eponym. That's a word that 30 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: that's a that's a legally registered trademark as a company name. 31 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: It's the name of a company. But that word has 32 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: come to be used generically by you know, the people 33 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: at large, to mean any form of whatever thing that 34 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: company is famous for. You know, like saying Google when 35 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: you mean Internet search, or band aid when you mean 36 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: adhesive bandage, or clean X when you mean tissue, coke 37 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: when you mean soda, or I mean any soda yea. 38 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes uh, styrofoam when you mean extruded polystyrene foam. Well, 39 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: that's just difficult to say frisbee when you mean throwing disc. 40 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: Give me my throwing disc now, I would like to 41 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: have fun quickly my throwing discs. It sounds like a 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: weapon throwing. Oh it does, really do? I mean phrasbees 43 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: are sort of weapons anyway, it depends on how good 44 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: you aren't catching them. You're totally correct, but okay, So 45 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: if you're being legally technically correct, you never use the 46 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: word popsicle as a noun. You never you never have 47 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: a popsicle. You have a popsicle ice pop. Oh. I 48 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: can't wait to annoy someone about this later. Similarly, you 49 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: cannot pluralize the word popsicle if you're being if you're 50 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: being real on the up and ups about it, you're 51 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: you're not going to the store to buy popsicles. You're 52 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: going to buy popsicle pops of course, clearly. And if 53 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: you said that you love popsicles great taste, Annie, you're 54 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: talking about the flavor of a company, and I think 55 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: you should look at your life and your choices. What 56 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: a fool I am. You'd be correct to say the 57 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: great taste of popsicle ice pops Now, I'm just like 58 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: a walking commercial. This is language that I took pretty 59 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: directly from their web site about how to navigate these 60 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: complex problems, because they are complex problems that we all face, 61 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: especially in the summer. Yes, oh man, I've faced a 62 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: number of ice pop devices during summer months. Ice pop 63 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: devices should be the legal name. Let's just be honest. Okay, 64 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: So so popsicle, Yes, popsicle is a brand. Um. But 65 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: but also you, I mean, you know you're probably not 66 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: going to get sued if you talk about popsicles, like 67 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: within your own home. I think every place should have 68 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: a jar, like a swear jar, but the popsicle jar, 69 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: and the company comes around and collects it. Like every 70 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: time you say popsical, you put a nickel in there. 71 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, popsicle, the company collects 72 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: all the nickels. Or maybe they could have a like 73 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: a big one for like Google and KLINEX and all 74 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: that stuff and come around. I'm not sure how they 75 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: would divvy it up. You need to have different sure compartments. 76 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: You're right, but I don't know. We'll have to look 77 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: and do separately. Outside of the podcast. If Google as 78 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: a whole page about how to navigate talking about their product. 79 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: I think it's just for employees, okay, yeah, see, they 80 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: were fine. The nickel system is only for popsicles, okay, 81 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: although they probably don't need any nickels because each year 82 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: popsicle products top two billion in sales, two billion units. Yeah, 83 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: and the most popular popsicle brand flavor is cherry. I 84 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: found that surprising. Oh, I don't know what I would 85 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: I would imagine strawberry, I guess. I guess me too. Yeah. 86 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: Tracking down non branded ice pop sales or non popsicle 87 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: branded ice pop sales. Rather, it's a little squidgy because 88 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, legally the term is quietly frozen confections, and 89 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: in terms of market sales, there in the general category 90 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: of frozen novelties um, which can encompass things that are 91 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: clearly not popsicles one way or another, like you know, 92 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: wrapped ice cream cones, ice cream sandwiches, stuff like that. 93 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: But in the United States, as of TwixT, the frozen 94 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: novelties categories saw one point to billion dollars in sales. 95 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: If you don't want to contribute to that one point 96 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: two billion dollars, you can make them at home. Yeah. Yeah, 97 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: they're pretty easy to make because Okay, the term quiescently 98 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: means in a state of inactivity or dormancy, which here 99 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: means you don't have to mess with popsicles as you're 100 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: freezing them, because they will shape up all on their own, 101 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: unlike ice cream, which you have to churn while you're 102 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: freezing it to to whip wee bits of air into 103 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: like the physical structure to create the right type of 104 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: crystallization that gives the finished ice cream that dreamy smooth texture. 105 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: But not so with popsicles. If you buy a popsicle mold, 106 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: which are pretty cheap but larger groceries like big box stores, 107 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: you know on the internets, you can pour pretty much 108 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: any juice or soda or booze into the mold, just 109 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: leave it in the freezer for a few hours and 110 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: have pretty excellent popsicles. Um I mean, I mean straight 111 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: straight liquors wouldn't work because the freezing point of alcohol 112 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: is way below the freezing point of water. But but 113 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: you could water him down and make like a cocktail pop. Yeah. 114 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: And not to go on too much of a boost 115 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: tangent here, no, never, but certainly in my research, I 116 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: went on a really huge boost tangent um. So like, 117 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: for the record, you need less than about ten total 118 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: alcohol by volume in your mixture in order to freeze 119 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: something solid in your home freezer. So that means that 120 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: for every like cup of non booze liquid, you can 121 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: add about three ounces. It's about two standard shots of 122 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: of standard forty is proof alcohol just f y. I 123 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I have enormous plans for experimenting 124 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: with such recipes over the summer or at our next 125 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: D and D game, hypothetical plans. Perhaps I would like 126 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: to partake hypothetically, and these imagined popsicles understood hypothetically hypothetically. 127 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: We do have a local uh popsicle vender, King of Pops, 128 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: and they make pop tails Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, which 129 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: are cocktails with popsicles, well pops excuse I pops ice 130 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: pops inserted in them that sort of likes it melts, 131 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: melts down into the cocktail, makes it look and taste 132 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: quite lovely. It is very nice. One of my favorite 133 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: things that we had an Atlanta Food and Wine was 134 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: the poptail from Old Fourth or Old Pals, that Old 135 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: Fourth distillery. It was lovely it was. While we're shouting 136 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: things out, we should also shout out there's both a 137 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: brain Stuff video episode about quiescently frozen confections um that 138 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Josh Clark did and he's some kind of mad genius. 139 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: I think it's actually my very favorite video episode of 140 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: brain Stuff ever. It's pretty excellent. Yeah. Also mad props 141 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: to Paul Decan, who is I'm not going to say 142 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: a mad genius, just regular like the even keeled genius, 143 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: very even keel genius. He drinks a lot of tea, 144 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: he does. Oh man, I respect to hydration as well. 145 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Oh and another show that we that we work in 146 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: conjunction with here at How Stuff Works. How Stuff he 147 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: missed in history class, did a whole episode about about 148 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: good humor versus popsicle. Yeah, intrigue, very much intrigue. Oh, 149 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: I would say not. We're going to get a little 150 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: bit into that intrigue plus the rest of the history 151 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: of the popsicle brand and it's ice pops, ice pops 152 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: in general. Right after a quick break for a word 153 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsors, Yes, 154 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: thank you for I was going to say our sanity, 155 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: but from my sanity. I'm probably just gonna use popsicles. 156 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: Please don't sue me, Popsicle company, but you can send 157 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: free products. That's cool. Um, popsicles are pretty new in 158 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: the scheme of things. It's true that in ancient rooms 159 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: slaves were tasked with retrieving ice from way up in 160 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: the cold mountains and bringing back blocks of it that 161 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: was then crushed up with fruits and spices for their masters. 162 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Sore raising freezes were observed by Marco Polo and Thomas 163 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: Jefferson probably made the same things went showing off at Monticello, 164 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: because of course he did, of course. But as far 165 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: as popsicles, popsicles, we're talking nineteen o five as in CE, 166 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: not BC c E. The story goes that an eleven 167 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: year old boy in San Francisco or maybe Oakland, where 168 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: it was colder because people have looked at the temperatures. Um, 169 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Frank Epperson forgot his glass of powdered drink mix and water. 170 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: He's trying to make his own soft aren't good for him, 171 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: complete with straw outside overnight when the sun rose, the 172 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: kid discovered it, the whole thing had frozen, and upon 173 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: licking it, because of course, you're gonna lick it um. 174 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: He discovered it was delicious. Young entrepreneur that he was, 175 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: he started selling them around his neighborhood in n Now 176 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: An adult, Frank started selling them around a nearby amusement 177 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: park called Neptune Beach a k a. The West Coast 178 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: Coney Island, also the same venue that snow cones debuted. 179 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: By the way, armed with proof that his product was 180 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: successful in he patented frozen confection of Attractive Appearance, which 181 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: can be conveniently consumed without contamination by contact with a 182 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: hand without the need for a plate, spoon, fork are 183 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: other implement and began marketing them. He didn't call them popsicles, though, 184 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: he called them epsicles. Epsicle you know his name, plus icicle. 185 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: It was Frank's kids who started referring to them as 186 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: popsicles because he was there. Pop see. I read a 187 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: bunch of different origin stories about the name. I also 188 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: read that it was because of lollipops that makes sense, sickles, 189 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: or maybe because he wanted to advertise that they were 190 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: made with soda pop popsicles. I probably all three simultaneously. Yeah. 191 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: Maybe in branching dimensions, we love our our branching dimensions 192 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: at food stuff we do. Unfortunately, Frank had to sell 193 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: the patent shortly after to Joe Loco because he was broke. 194 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: When asked about this later, Frank responded, I was flat 195 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: and had to liquidate. Oh my assets. I haven't been 196 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: the same since. Wow the lowco brought the frozen confection 197 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: into the national spotlight. Though at the lo lo prize 198 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: of a nickel, these babies were hit. It was marketed 199 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: as a frozen lollipop. It even withstood the Great Depression, 200 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: in part due to the introduction of the two stick popsicle, 201 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: while maintaining that about since price point, Yeah, share one 202 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: with your friends, two for the price of one. I 203 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: can't imagine sharing a popsicle like that. I mean, I 204 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: mean you break them apart. Yeah, that's why my life. 205 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't have much experience of popsicles. I've got to 206 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: say I had a lot of those freezy pops Oh yeah, yeah, 207 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: not not straight up popsicles. Those were not a big 208 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: thing in my house. Clearly popsicle pete, popsicles, mascot as 209 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: in the company Popsicle comes onto the scene in nine, 210 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: but confection drama Bow homes infection drama, and this brings 211 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: us to good humor? Do not have a good humor 212 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: at all? Or maybe they did, I don't know. But 213 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: they came out with their own product on a stick, 214 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: chocolate covered ice cream, and Low southed their ass for 215 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: infringing on their copyright. The court got them to meet 216 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: in the middle, awarding Low the domain of water based 217 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: pops and Good Humor the domain of milk based. This, 218 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: of course, was not the end of it. It involved 219 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: a lot of arguments and big questions like what is 220 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: ice cream? Lauren? And how does one define sherbet? Anyway? 221 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Keeps us up at night? I know. By World War Two, 222 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: the popsicle had become so popular that the eighth Air 223 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Force Unit picked them as a symbol for American Life. 224 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: Popsicles Fudgicle debut in ninety six. The double stick popsicle 225 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: went away in nineteen eight six. So maybe that explains 226 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: why I don't know what to do with it. Um 227 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: flavor ice was introduced in nineteen sixty nine by Jail Sirt. 228 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: You know those are the things, the popsicles and the 229 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: plastic tube sometimes called freezies. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't have 230 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: a stick. You just kind of cut off the end 231 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: of the sharp, surprisingly sharp plastic tube, but then you 232 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: stick it in your face. Yeah. They come usually in 233 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: liquid form and then you freeze them, right. And I 234 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: have conspiracy theory that no matter where you are, you 235 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: have one of these and your freezer somewhere. We have 236 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot of them in my freezer actually, and I'm 237 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: very confused about why, yes, exactly who bought these wind why? 238 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: How how long have they been there? Have they always 239 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: been there? I don't know. You can get them in 240 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: Electroalite sports flavor now did you know that? No? I 241 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: did not. Um. Oh, and I love this quote I 242 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: found about them, um the cool down choice for cheap 243 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: skates everywhere. D Yeah. Their competitor, auto Otter pops, which 244 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: is sort of a push up pop situation, came onto 245 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: the market in nineteen seventy. Jel eventually got the rights 246 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: to them as well. UM, and we mentioned we mentioned 247 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: them as sort of the impetus for the blue Raspberry 248 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: flavor and our artificial flavoring episode. If you ever heard 249 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: that one, want to check it out in Unilever acquired 250 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: Popsicle the brand and also Good Humor so that an 251 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: end to their legal battle that they had going on, 252 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: but it opened the door for another very Derby Pie 253 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: esque legal battle to protect the copyright of popsicle capital 254 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: p the brand it doesn't want to be clean extor xerox. 255 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Like we mentioned the top. In two thousand ten, they 256 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: sued a Brooklyn popmaker, People's Pops for a blog post 257 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: that included popsicle a blog post. Don't don't take their name. 258 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: That's their valuable property. You know, if I had a name, 259 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: maybe i'd feel the same way. Annie, you have a name. 260 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: Your your name is Annie Reese. And I'm still waiting 261 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: for the Reese's Company. I'm here. Oh not yet, but soon. 262 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Food stuff it has to works dot com you guys. 263 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: I can in touch it. I could feel it's on 264 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: the way. Frank Everson died in Nighte and is now 265 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: part of a food tour in California that also includes 266 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: Domingo Gara Deli Yes Yes, of the Good World and 267 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: her old pal trader Vic Vic Eversent is also featured 268 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: in a Christian self help book about trusting God to 269 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: help you discover your purpose in life. Okay, yeah, heck yeah, dude. 270 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: Popsicles and crime aside because this is a whole article 271 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: I found. Okay, so this is not aside from popsicles 272 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: and crimes. This is an aside on. Yes, okay, it's 273 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: not like popsicle. Yeah, it should be a character in 274 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: a comic book, but no, we're talking about popsicles randomly 275 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: coming up in crime. Um. They've been involved in a 276 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: surprising amount of crime stories. Um, and I wasn't necessarily 277 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: a surprised thanks to all the mind trip I used 278 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to play at the beach. But still okay. One such 279 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: case stems from the summer of nineteen thirty five, when 280 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: Philadelphians woke up to this headline argues over popsicle vendor 281 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: is shot. This resulted from a debt. The vendor had 282 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: a crewed of ten cents. When the popsicle vendor couldn't 283 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: pay up, the lowner demanded two popsicles as payment. The 284 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: vendor disagreed to the terms and got a bullet for 285 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: his trouble. It was during the Great Depression, so some 286 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: sense was pretty big deal. Yeah, I mean, don't shoot anybody, 287 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: but just saying it's a bigger deal than yes. Yes, 288 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: A thirteen year old boy who ran a Birmingham, Alabama 289 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: ice cream truck got robbed in nineteen fifty two and 290 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: the culprit sold six dozen ice cream sandwiches and popsicles 291 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: and four dollars. Mmm, they were hungry. I mean, well, 292 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: my thing is, how did they not melt six dozen 293 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: ice cream sandwiches anyway? Um, take this headline from Los 294 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: Angeles and nineteen fifty two parents loose suit over boys 295 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: popsicle pool row. Yes, there was a lawsuit that took 296 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: eight hours of deliberation from the jury. And it all 297 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: started when a young boy showed up at the Seminole 298 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: Hot Springs resort pool with not one, but two popsicles 299 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: and the eleven year old boy on dy and the 300 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: son of the resort's owner would not stand for it. No, 301 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: he wouldn't allow it. The moms of the boys got 302 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: involved and allegedly through popsicles at each other. The mothers yes, 303 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: as mature adults do when they have disagreements, the classic 304 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: popsicle defense. The parents of the popsicle boys to the resort, 305 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: the resort for forty five hundred dollars but yeah, no dice, 306 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: and after chasing a teenage bicycling popsicle thief and calling 307 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: the police. A pursuer ended up in trouble with the 308 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: cops because he had no license. The nineteen fifty five 309 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Washington d C. Headline was popsicle theft and cheese get 310 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: victim and police jam. Oh well yeah. After a dozen 311 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: popsicles were stolen in nineteen seventy five, the Hartford Court 312 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: ran with this headline, police hope to lick popsicle mystery. Yeah, 313 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: I had to include it. Good job, Hartford. Yeah, so 314 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: pun worthy of food stuff. I don't I don't have 315 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: anything about popsicle crime, but I will say that that 316 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: that modernly the popsicle brand does tie ins with all 317 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: sorts of other brands. There's a Jawbreaker flavored ice pops, 318 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: all kinds of Frozen Disney Frozen related ice pops. Yeah, 319 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: it's like it's the whole thing. I just realized how 320 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: it's just obvious finger gunny that is yeah, absolutely, yeah, 321 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: totally clear. Uh, you know, Despicable Me stuff like that. 322 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: The minions bright yellow. I don't know what flavor they are, 323 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: Minion flavored? That doesn't sound Oh okay, there you go. 324 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: I've seen many a animated foam perfect uh. And this 325 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: brings us to the science of creating at a large 326 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: scale popsicles or popsicle ice pops the fear in her eyes, 327 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: popsicle company, We're going to get to that if we're 328 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: still here right after one more quick break for a 329 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, 330 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Thank you. So let's say that you're a big company 331 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: who wants to make a new flavor of ice pop Okay, 332 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a big commitment, even even for a large 333 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: company like yourself, Annie, I have a large company. Yes, 334 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to create a new mold 335 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: for it and place a bulk order, like huge bulk 336 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: order of rappers and sticks that you want to probably 337 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: specially designed for the case. The mold alone is going 338 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: to run you around sixty dollars and uh and and 339 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: the design and marketing might be another forty thousand, So 340 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: it's expensive. But once you've got those things, the manufacturing 341 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: process goes like this. You're gonna mix up a base 342 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: of sugars, stabilizers, texturizers, and water which can be sent 343 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 1: out to different vats to have different flavors and colors added. 344 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: The mixtures are cooled to just above freezing so that it 345 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: it can still be a pumped and poured easily, because 346 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna pump them across your factory and send the 347 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: mixture straight to the molds. The mold machines can carry 348 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: like two hundred to three hundred strips of stainless steel molds, 349 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: and the whole thing is capable of producing about fourth 350 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: house and three hundred and twenty ice pops per hour, 351 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: or up to twice that many, depending on the speed 352 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: and efficiency of your machine, because there has to be 353 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: a rinse in sanitized cycle in between each batch, and 354 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: you might have multiple machines, like five machines on your line. 355 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: These filled molds. Once you once you pump your mix 356 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: into them, they're gonna pass through a long tank filled 357 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: with a salt brine that's cooled to like negative thirty 358 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit, that's about negative thirty two degrees celsius. And 359 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: the tank is is maybe about twenty ft long, and 360 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: over the course of this journey through the tank, the 361 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: pops will freeze up, with the center solidifying during that 362 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: last three to four feet right before that point. Therefore, 363 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: when the pop liquid is just frozen enough to support 364 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: a stick. An injector pushes in the stick. Once it 365 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: totally frozen. A warming tank will heat the outside of 366 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: the molds just enough to let the pops release, and 367 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: then they are dropped into their individual baggies, held open 368 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: by gusts of air. Wow, beautiful popsicle symphony. It's a 369 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: beautiful ice pop symphony, sometimes conducted by the brand popsicle. 370 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: There you go. That's clear as day. It is so 371 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: much better way to say it out loud. I'll try 372 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: to keep that in mind. I have a history. There's 373 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: a long lost from a video stuff promo video. Well, 374 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: it's still post it someday we should. It was fun. 375 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: We got to have a food fight. It was great. 376 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: But I could not pronounce quiescently and Laurence juggling and 377 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I keep ruining, and I have a popsicle in my hand, 378 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: and we don't have a backup popsicle. No, because we're fools. 379 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: And thought I'd be able to pronounce quiescently, which now 380 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: I can do. But at the time and the moment, 381 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: it was stressful. It was very stressful. I think I 382 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: think I only ruined shots by by missing a juggle, 383 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: like maybe only four times. Yeah, We had such big 384 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: plans for that video, and we were the ones that 385 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: were like, we're gonna have juggling in a popsicle and 386 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: the same I'm saying, you know, we're gonna be walking 387 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: and the whole thing. Yeah, at least you weren't on 388 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: roller blades in the initial version of the script. You 389 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: were like, I have to be on rollerblades, that I 390 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: have to be eating this popsicle and you have to 391 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: be juggling, and that's what it's going to And then 392 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: there was going to be a confanity Canyonette and Cannon 393 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: petty Cannon. Yeah, not canyon although and if that sounds fun, yeah, 394 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: I'd do that too. Anyway, we'll get that up on 395 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: line somewhere. But in the meanwhile, this brings us to 396 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: the end of our Popsical episode and two. Listener Maile, okay, okay, 397 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: I want to start out by saying that, um, we 398 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: have been delighted by the just pouring in of emails 399 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: describing your favorite peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are without jelly. 400 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yes, absolutely, thank you. It has been excellent. 401 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: You'll probably hear more of those, um and future episodes 402 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: because we did get quite a lot, and they are. 403 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: They are wonderful. But we're gonna start with this one 404 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: from Miranda. She wrote, my P B and J preference 405 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: is very personal to me. Like you both mentioned, I 406 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: always had smooth peanut butter and strawberry jelly, but my 407 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: sandwich had to be placed under the cold pack and 408 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: mile lunchbox. For some reason, I loved how it made 409 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: the sandwich cold and smashed it together a bit. I 410 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: can't explain exactly why I liked it, but I was 411 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: adamant that my sandwich had to be smashed by the 412 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: ice pack. I am a student naval aviator training to 413 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: be a Coastguard pilot. When I first started flying, I 414 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: was getting air sick. I was told that peanut butter 415 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: is a great thing to eat before your flight's to 416 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: have something to settle your stomach. And it worked. Now 417 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: I have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich before each flight, 418 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: and I make sure to keep it under my ice 419 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: pack in my lunch box. I guess some old habits 420 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: die hard. Also in college, it was a frequent occurrence 421 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: that freshman would stand up at a lunch with a 422 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: fresh jar of peanut butter. One without the seal taken off, 423 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: they would They would yell fire in the hole and 424 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: smash the jar skippy peanut butter on their forehead to 425 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: break open the seal. Peanut butter would fly everywhere and 426 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: people would stand up and cheer. However, everyone would yell 427 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: much louder and boo you if you weren't strong enough 428 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: to break the seal with your forehead. A strange tradition 429 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: in our school. I still have no idea where it 430 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: came from, but I did get hit with a flying 431 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: glob of peanut butter one day. Good times were had 432 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: by all except my staying sweater. That is a very 433 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: interesting tradition, Rand. I've never heard of that before, and 434 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be able to do it. I 435 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: don't know. I kind of want to try, I know 436 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: you do. Its like a something I need to prove 437 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: to myself. This is one of the ones that we 438 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: can't do in the studio though. Yeah, I think I 439 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: think that's an outdoor activity. Okay, okay, reconvene. Later, Rachel 440 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: wrote about our Crawfish episode. I live in Houston, Texas, 441 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: which is an incredible, incredible food city. Not only does 442 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: it have some southern charm, but it's also home to 443 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: some kick ass text backs and of course Texas barbecue. 444 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: But did you know that Houston is also the most 445 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: diverse city in the country. Because of this, Houston has 446 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: an insane amount of international and regional food options. I 447 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: say all this because you mentioned a crawfish restaurant in 448 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: Atlanta owned by a Vietnamese family at the beginning of 449 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: the episode. But did you know that vietcasion is its 450 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: own type of cuisine here in Houston. Vietcasion came about 451 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: starting in the late seventies and early eighties after the 452 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: Vietnam War, when a lot of Vietnamese refugees came to 453 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: the e Gulf Coast, but especially after a large influx 454 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: of Vietnamese came to Houston after Katrina. Shrimping is a 455 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: major industry in Vietnam, so when Vietnamese people moved here, 456 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: they easily transitioned to the crawfish industry. Being so close 457 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 1: to Louisiana, it makes sense that Houston has a lot 458 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: of Cajun cuisine. However, when the Vietnamese started cooking crawfish 459 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: after boiling, they would finish them in all the delicious 460 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: Vietnamese seasonings such as garlic and lemongrass sauteed with butter butter. 461 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: This is of course sacrilegious in Louisiana, but Houstonians love 462 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: their viet Cajun mudbugs. They do sound delicious. Oh that 463 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: sounds great. I mean adding butter to anything isn't really 464 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: not hasty. Yeah, it's hard. Nothing's coming to mind immediately. No, 465 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's something here. There has to be something. Well, 466 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: we'll investigate with one of our well known food stuff 467 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: investigations and get to the bottom of it, will But 468 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: in the meantime, please keep those emails coming. You can 469 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: email us at food Stuff at how stuff works dot com. 470 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: You can also find us on social media. We are 471 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Facebook at food stuff hs W. Also 472 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: over on Instagram at food stuff and we hope to 473 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: hear from you. Thank you as always to our amazing 474 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: superproducer Dylan Fagan, who has his other headphones on and 475 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: is listening to something else entirely um oh blated shout 476 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: out to our research assistant Christopher hassiotis for given us 477 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of peanut butter research to get us 478 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: kickstarted on that episode. Who's just a terrific human person. 479 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: We're hoping to get him on the show sometime kind 480 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: of soon, because he's a font of amazing food facts. 481 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: Is amazing food fact font. Thanks to you for listening, 482 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: and we hope that lots more good things are coming 483 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: your way.