1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Boomberg 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Day Bacot podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: wherever you listen. It's Wednesday, the sixth of November here 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: in London. I'm Caroline Hepkif. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Donald Trump tells supporters he will 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: deliver a Golden Age as he closes in on victory 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: over Kamala Harris in the US presidential race. 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: The Republican candidate has been declared the winner in Pennsylvania, 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: North Carolina, and Georgia. As world leaders offer Trump their congratulations. 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: The dollar, Wall Street futures, and treasury yields surge on 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Trump's rising presidential prospects as the Republicans also secure a 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: majority in the Senate. 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: And emerging market currencies tumble on concerns over Trump's trade policies. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is on the cusp of winning a second 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: term as US president. The Republican candidate has claimed victory 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: after TV Networks projected he won the pivotal swing state 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania. Donald Trump currently has two hundred and sixty 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: seven Electoral College votes, while Kamala Harris is on two 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four. The Republicans are also projected to 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: have won control of the US Senate, the dollar stop futures, 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: and bond yields of surgeon reaction, Donald Trump has been 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: speaking in the last couple of hours to support us 23 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach in Florida. 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: We're going to fix everything about our country, and we've 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: made history for a reason tonight that the reason is 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: going to be just there. It's now clear that we've 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: achieved the most incredible political there. 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 4: Look what happened is this. 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Crazy Trump has not yet been declared the winner by 30 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: most news outlets. However, he has been projected to win Pennsylvania, Georgia, 31 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: and North Carolina, key states, puncturing Democrats hopes and all 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: but Democratic nominee Kamala Harris's hopes of mounting any comeback. 33 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: Let's just bring you up to date on some of 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: the states where results haven't been called yet. In Wisconsin, 35 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: we are looking at with ninety three percent of votes counted, 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: Donald Trump leading fifty one percent to forty seven percent 37 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: for Kamala Harris. 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: And in Michigan, with eighty six percent of votes counted, 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is that projected to have won fifty one 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: point four percent, Kamala Harris is on forty six point 41 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: nine percent of the Michigan vote. 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: And in Arizona with fifty three percent of votes counted, 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Donald Trump leading with fifty point eight percent of the 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: votes counted, Kamala Harris on forty eight point three percent. 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: Now, if the election does end in a Trump win, 46 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: it will have major implications for the global economy. The 47 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Republican has pledged to improve the US economy and also 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: levy a twenty percent tariff on all imports. Trump told 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: his supporters that he was going to bring down taxes. 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: We're going to be down dead. We're going to be 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: reducing texas we have. We can do things that nobody 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: else can do. Nobody else is going to be able 53 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: to do it. China doesn't have what we have. Nobody 54 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: has what we have. 55 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, speaking there at his results event in Florida. 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Economics says that a Trump white House would likely 57 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: spend more and could raise borrowing costs all around the world. 58 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Republicans have gained control of the US SENUS Right now, 59 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: Democrats are forty two seats, the Republicans fifty one, with 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: the remaining seats left to be called. Democrats faced a 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: series of difficult races, defending three seats in state Donald 62 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: Trump won in both twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. Here's 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: Bin Brooks Joe Matthew with the breakdown of how the 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Republicans did us. 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: This is not a big surprise after the motion that 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: we have seen so far in the states tonight, all 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 4: they needed were two. We told you that in the outset. 68 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 4: Pretty easy to do the math here. It came from 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: West Virginia, Jim Justice winning the Senate seat there held 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 4: by Joe Manchin. In Ohio, Sherid Brown losing to Republican 71 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: Bernie Moreno, that's what we have here. That's how tight 72 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: the margin is. 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: Joe Matthew points out that no Senate Republicans work for 74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: reelection in states that Joe Biden carried in twenty twenty. 75 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: In the House, the Democrats currently have one hundred and 76 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: seventy three seats, the Republicans one hundred and ninety three 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: with counting. 78 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: Ongoing markets are reacting to Donald Trump's rising presidential prospects. 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: At to just after nine am London time, the Bloomberg 80 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: doll Spot index is stronger one point two percent, with 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: the green back surging against all major currency pairs S 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: and P five hundred. Emily futures are climbing two point 83 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: two percent. Ten year US treasury yields have surged now 84 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: fourteen basis points are at four forty one. Many of 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: vesters see Trump's pro growth stance on industrial policy, corporate 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: tax cuts and tariffs, boosting stocks and fueling inflation and 87 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: therefore keeping interest rates elevated. Bloomberg's Pretty Gupta says the 88 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: dollar move has international implications. 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 5: What I think is shocking here is that the stock 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 5: market is rallying in the US from the future's perspective, 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: in line with the dollar. And that's an inverse correlation 92 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 5: that really matters for international investors because the more expensive 93 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 5: the dollar gets, the harder it is to access the 94 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: S and P five hundred. And that's why this move 95 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 5: and the dollar is so crucial. 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Critty good to speaking there. The Mexican pay so 97 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: the emerging market currency most sensitive to a Donald Trump win, 98 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: has tumbled this morning. So to is the EU and 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: the yen, along with Eastern European currencies. Meanwhile, all prices 100 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: are down one and a half percent, Gold is down 101 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: seven tenths of one percent, and Bitcoin, again a favored 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Trump trade, has surged by six point six percent this hour. 103 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: World leaders have been reacting to Trump's likely victory, the 104 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: UK's Prime Minister Chris Starmer saying that he looks forward 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: to working with Trump in the years ahead and that 106 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: he knows the UK US special relationship will continue to prosper. 107 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: French President Emmanuel Macron congratulated Trump, adding ready to work 108 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: together as we've done for years. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin 109 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: Nettan Yaho hailed Trump for what he called history's greatest comeback, 110 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: while Hungary's Prime Minister Victor Orban said Trump was on 111 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: the way to a beautiful victory. Ukraine's President of Vlasimir 112 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: Zelenski has said that he looks forward to an era 113 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: of strong United States under Donald Trump, saying he continues 114 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: to rely on strong bipartisan report supports rather for Ukraine. 115 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: And those are our top stories, all of the details 116 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: around potentially Donald Trump on the cusp of winning a 117 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: second term as US president. Now let's bring in for 118 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: a discussion on this our senior writer Stephanie Baker. Good morning, 119 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: it's been quite an extraordinary night, hasn't it. We weren't 120 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: expecting to get the results so quickly. Donald Trump coming 121 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: out this morning addressing his cheering supporters, what do you 122 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: make of the results so far? What did the polls 123 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: get so wrong? 124 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: Right? 125 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 6: So, technically this is not a polling error. All the 126 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 6: polls were saying it was a dead heat, but most 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: of the races were within the margin of error. Having 128 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 6: said that, there were some polls that got it very wrong. Michigan, 129 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 6: for one, Trump has won by a much wider margin 130 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 6: than any polls I had seen. There were some recent 131 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 6: polls just in the past week, the New York Times 132 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 6: Siena poll, the Marist NPR poll that showed Kamala with 133 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 6: momentum pulling ahead, including in the battleground states. So clearly 134 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 6: the polling got some of this wrong, and it was 135 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 6: and it ended up more like twenty twenty than twenty 136 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 6: twenty two the midterms. I think there were some people 137 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 6: that had thought that the polls were not capturing the 138 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: amount of anger amongst women voters about the abortion ruling 139 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 6: from the Supreme Court, and that they would turn out 140 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 6: in huge numbers for Kamala Harris that didn't pan out, 141 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 6: and what we got instead was polls continued to undercount 142 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 6: Trump supporters, and I think that's been a historic problem. 143 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 6: We saw it in twenty six, we saw it in 144 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 6: twenty twenty. Twenty twenty two was not the model for 145 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 6: this one. 146 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: And just on Michigan as the votes there, we've just 147 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: got eighty seven percent of votes counted and Donald Trump 148 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: leading fifty one percent of forty seven percent counting. So 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm going there. We haven't called that race just yet, 150 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: but I do want to look at kind of the 151 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: picture outside of the presidential race as well. Because you've 152 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: got Republicans down in control of the Senate, the House, 153 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: we're still waiting for the full picture to emerge. What 154 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: does that look like for a political landscape from January. 155 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 6: I think a lot really depends on the House, and 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 6: that's too early to call. I think it's too tight. 157 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 6: I think some Democrats think they still have a chance 158 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 6: of holding on and regaining control there. But I think 159 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 6: if the Republicans win the House, that means Trump has 160 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 6: a clean sweep House, Senate, White House, and a very 161 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 6: friendly Supreme Court, so there's no friction, there's nothing stopping 162 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 6: him from doing what he wants to do. 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: On the Bloomberg terminal. This morning, we have all of 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: our reporters who've been staying up overnight shipping in and 165 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: putting their points across, and one of them that I 166 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: thought was interesting was a line about how Trump supporters 167 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: many are now jostling for the thousands of positions that 168 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: are going to be open, and former President Trump talking 169 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: about delivering on the promises that he made during the 170 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: election campaign. What do you think the key policies are 171 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: going to be from Trump to bring in if he 172 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: does win the White House. What do you think the 173 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: most speedy policy enactment enactments will be. 174 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 6: Well, remember, he has promised some major economic changes, sweeping tariffs. 175 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 6: There's some debate as to how much power he has 176 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 6: to do that unilaterally. Technically under the Constitution, Congress has 177 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 6: that ability, but he has executive authority under various other 178 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 6: statutes to do that if he wants to. Then there 179 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 6: is his promise to begin mass deportations on day one, 180 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 6: and I think he does have a fair degree of 181 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 6: you know, latitude to go ahead and do that. Isolationist 182 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 6: foreign policy, he has vowed to end the war between 183 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 6: Ukraine and Russia in a day, and you know, I 184 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 6: expect he will go ahead and do that. It looks 185 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 6: very unlikely that Ukraine will continue to get aid from 186 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 6: the United States with a Republican dominated Senate and a 187 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 6: White House controlled by Trump and JD. Vance, who have 188 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: been very negative about support for Ukraine. So I think 189 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 6: it looks both very isolationist and frankly inflationary. 190 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: Stephanie, you've written a book on punishing Putin, on the 191 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 2: economic war that has taken place since the full scale 192 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: invasion of Ukraine began. I wonder how you view a 193 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: Donald Trump in the White House and relationships with Russia. 194 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 6: I think Trump is not a good It's not a 195 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 6: good move for Ukraine. I think this is going to 196 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 6: be a very, very shaky time for Ukraine. Europe will 197 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 6: have to step up in a big way, and I 198 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 6: think the biggest problem is that they do not have 199 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: the defense industrial base to continue to provide military aid 200 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 6: to Ukraine. And I don't see even if they step 201 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 6: up financially, I don't see Europe raising enough finance and 202 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 6: then placing orders with US defense manufacturers. I don't think 203 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 6: that's politically tenable. So I think it's going to be 204 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 6: very difficult for Volodimir Zelensky to hold on if he 205 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: is forced to do a deal where he seedes control 206 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 6: of territory to Russia and you know, they declare ceasefire 207 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 6: and to militarized zone. I think he will be under 208 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 6: enormous political pressure domestically, and I'm not sure he can 209 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 6: survive that. 210 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: Okay. So that's the point on Ukraine. Just sort of 211 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: going back to the election results overall, what do you 212 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: think the messages were from Trump the worked with US 213 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: voters or messages that failed from Harris to hit home 214 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: with US voters. 215 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: I think the main takeaway from this election is that 216 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 6: the polls got this one right. Seventy five percent of 217 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 6: Americans thought the US was on the wrong track. And 218 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 6: when Trump posed this question, are you better off now 219 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 6: than you were four years ago? Everyone said no. Even 220 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 6: though Biden had managed to roll out an economic recovery, 221 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 6: a so called soft landing, and inflation had come down. 222 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 6: The fact of the matter is people go to the 223 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 6: supermarkets and they're facing much higher bills because of post 224 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 6: COVID inflation, and there's a real desire to go back 225 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 6: to those pre COVID times. And the ultimate irony is 226 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 6: that a lot of the Trump policies that he's outlined 227 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 6: are actually going to be adding to inflation rather than 228 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 6: controlling inflation. I haven't seen anything he's done that would 229 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 6: tried to temper inflation, unlike some of the proposals that 230 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 6: Harris had made. 231 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: Okay, Stephanie, thank you so much for joining us that 232 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: Stephanie Baker Bloomberg senior writer there, and if you're just 233 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: joining us to remind you that Donald Trump has claimed 234 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: victory in the US presidential race, but as of yet, 235 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: he only has two hundred and sixty seven of the 236 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy electoral College votes needed to secure 237 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: the presidency. But if he wins one more of the 238 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: states that are still yet to be called, he will 239 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: have crossed that threshold. Kamala Harris has two hundred and 240 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: twenty four electoral College votes. 241 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: And the reaction in markets is to push up US 242 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: dot features. But even European stocks are actually gaining one 243 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: point nine percent this morning. So in order to discuss, 244 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: let's bring in Bloomberg TV Anka Quitti Gupta for the 245 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: latest on the market reaction. Quitty stocks are up, the 246 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: dollars up, and you've seen US yields also up very significantly. 247 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Is this just a reaction to having a quick potential 248 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: result of what looks to be a fairly quick result. 249 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: Is this backing full of the Trump trade. 250 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 5: Let's do it active a class by asked class, because 251 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 5: this is one of those moments where they're not all 252 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: trading with the same narrative. I'll start with the equities 253 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 5: picture here and just put some numbers on this rally 254 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 5: that we're seeing now. Futures are up two point six percent, 255 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: SMP mini futures are up over two percent. I'll give 256 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 5: you an even bigger number, look at small cap feutures. 257 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 5: So Russell two thousand up a whopping five point three 258 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 5: percent inter day trade. That is the biggest move to 259 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: the upside in a single inter day period you have 260 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: seen ever in history. That's how big of a move 261 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 5: small caps are seeing right now. Again, anything can shake 262 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 5: out going into the US open, but this is something 263 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: that has to do with positioning ahead of the election. 264 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 5: So this was a question of we need an element 265 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: of certainty. We got one fairly quickly, to your point, 266 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 5: So there is a little bit of a sib of relief. 267 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 5: There's also one that suggests Donald Trump will have from 268 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 5: a policy perspective, a more markets friendly approach, less regulation, 269 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 5: more tax cuts. That is all positive in terms of resentiment. 270 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: And then lastly, this idea that there was kind of 271 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 5: this idea that there would be a little bit of 272 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: sell off into the election and then a big rally anyway, 273 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 5: So positioning was very much a part of it, regardless 274 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: of which candidate. 275 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: One gritty is that a broad sweep that we're seeing 276 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: in terms of the stocks that are and sectors that 277 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: are called hire. We're looking at Tesla. I just noted 278 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: that at the top of the hour that the pre 279 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: market that share jumped twelve percent in pre market moves. 280 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: But I'm wondering because we are seeing a fairly broad 281 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: markets lifted in Europe, but not all sectors. 282 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 5: Correct. I'll start with the Tesla story, because you're right, 283 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: it is up a whopping thirteen percent in the pre market. Remember, 284 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: in Trump's initial remarks that he had made at the 285 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 5: West Palm Beach Convention Center, he mentioned Tesla, he mentioned Starlink, 286 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 5: he mentioned X. This is a big deal because Starlink specifically, 287 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 5: of course, for those who aren't familiar the satellite program, 288 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: and that really enables communications in war zones, but has 289 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: also helped with hurricane relief. Was under some pressure in 290 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 5: terms of funding from the Biden administration, so this was 291 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: a big concern. Not to mention Tesla itself has been 292 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 5: a big beneficiary of Biden and subsidies as well, some 293 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 5: of the EB subsidies as well, but there was friction 294 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 5: in that relationship. So this is something that you're seeing 295 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 5: as of course, one that there has been this endorsement 296 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: between and friendship between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. But 297 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 5: there's also the fact that he specifically mentioned Starlink, he 298 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: mentioned X, he mentioned the several different kind of parts 299 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: of Elon Musk's businesses that is showing up in Tesla, 300 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 5: like if it's the only part of the business that's 301 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: publicly publicly traded, to my knowledge, hire by about thirteen percent. 302 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 5: But when you mention other sectors as well, and I 303 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: think when you look at some of the moves that 304 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: you're seeing pre market, the initial reaction is to look 305 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 5: at some of the sectors that are more exposed to 306 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 5: the south, aka his base, and I'm thinking of things 307 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 5: like energy infrastructure for example, that's where you're expected to 308 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: see less regulation. But you're seeing that in consumer products 309 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 5: as well. If you're thinking less tax cuts, that's more 310 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: disposable income, that's more helpful. Even retail companies as well, 311 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 5: they will rally. If you look at kind of the 312 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 5: downside movers in this morning's early trade, you're seeing it 313 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 5: really show up in a lot of technology, a little 314 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 5: bit of biotech. So that defensive trade is really one 315 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 5: that's kind of being unwound from the last couple of months. 316 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Really yeah, And I think it's fascinating that when you 317 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: look at the worst performing stocks in Europe you get 318 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: a little hint of the kind of reflection of what 319 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: you say about the Russell's small cap stocks in the US. 320 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Maybe they're rallying because they think that a Trump White 321 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: House will bring more business into the US, or will 322 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: help domestic businesses to grow, or stead and vest as 323 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: wind systems obviously benefiting from the switch to clean energy. 324 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: Ap Muller Musk big in the trade in trade and 325 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: shipping obviously also down significantly. Volvo cars again down. Those 326 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: are some hints about even though the European stock market 327 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: is up, that maybe there are some concerns there. 328 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and the clean energy conversation is one that the 329 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: Biden administration has pushed quite heavily and is a bigger 330 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 5: investment thesis in Europe than it is in the United 331 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 5: States because it is expensive to invest in renewables, more 332 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 5: expensive in the United States than Europe. I'll bring your 333 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 5: attention to the banks very quickly if I can, because 334 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 5: that's where I think you're seeing a really interesting dynamic. 335 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 5: If you look at the underperformers in Europe this morning, 336 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 5: alongside some of the renewable companies, you point out, it's 337 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 5: the banks. And the reason for this is because of 338 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: the yield move. So you're seeing American banks trade higher 339 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 5: in the US because again yields are going higher in 340 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 5: the treasury market. But in Europe there is a massive 341 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: bid for German boons, there's a massive bid for European 342 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 5: debt because there's an assumption that this will accelerate rate 343 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 5: cuts from the ECB and the BOE. 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