Speaker 1: What's going on. And I'm Timid Mallory and Mr Street
Speaker 1: Politicians the place with streets and politics me wow, wow wow.
Speaker 1: First of all, the Black Effect. Shout out to our homeboy,
Speaker 1: our good brother and friend, Charlomagne. God just watching the
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Speaker 1: us being able to this, this this baby of yours.
Speaker 1: Really Street Politicians, I'm taking a little bit, a little
Speaker 1: bit of credit. Uh, you're watching us all grow together.
Speaker 1: This is what Charlemagne's been talking about, is what we've
Speaker 1: been talking about. So it's so dope, you know. Shout
Speaker 1: out to my heart for giving Charlemagne the opportunity to
Speaker 1: partner with them, and then of course our dope family
Speaker 1: and our Women TV for bringing us to you in
Speaker 1: living color. Uh. There is so much happening coming out
Speaker 1: of this presidential action. I think the internet has I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm sort of turned off from the Internet
Speaker 1: because it's just been so much drama and it's been
Speaker 1: so um just I don't know. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of the troll and the I don't even know if
Speaker 1: it's trolling. It's the hate that you receive. It's um
Speaker 1: you just gotta think about it when you when you
Speaker 1: think about who Donald Trump is, what he represents, and
Speaker 1: you know him being the president of the United States,
Speaker 1: it just started going downhill. Just brings out the worst
Speaker 1: in everybody. My ded listened to me. My page, it's
Speaker 1: like a war zone. It is your comments. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: go in, but I gotta it's like double Dutch, Like
Speaker 1: when I go in, I gotta be like you're going in,
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready for real. Like I remember men
Speaker 1: the sales posted something on my page and she wrote
Speaker 1: one comment and it was like a thousand comments, but
Speaker 1: she damned me, like it are relentless. Look, it's like
Speaker 1: a jungle with this is World War three of you
Speaker 1: a second tone for that by the way in which
Speaker 1: you um represent yourself sometimes on your page, first of all,
Speaker 1: you get yourself into the most controversial topics ever, which
Speaker 1: what you like to do, because it does help you
Speaker 1: to be able to bring attention to some of the
Speaker 1: other issues, like the deeper issues involved in all these
Speaker 1: different scenarios. But it's just be some stuff like you
Speaker 1: know what Mike is, just just miss it, like missing
Speaker 1: for if I miss it, I would miss it. If
Speaker 1: somebody else is gonna catch it. Yeah, but well but
Speaker 1: you know nobody else. The reality is the rest of
Speaker 1: our lives and not danger. But you make us tired
Speaker 1: because then we gotta go in there. Then people be
Speaker 1: tagging me like, yo, do you see what he's said?
Speaker 1: And I gotta go in there and fight with people.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I got to go in there and fight
Speaker 1: with you. It's a lot your comments is it's really
Speaker 1: serious in my comments. If you go on and say
Speaker 1: any it's like that on your page to did you
Speaker 1: say something bad about me? Some days I don't have
Speaker 1: to say anything because people just tear folks. But I
Speaker 1: just think during this election and all of the things,
Speaker 1: I think it was just way. I just think that
Speaker 1: the level of the Russian boots and trolls that came
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, that just coming. But they're not. But yo,
Speaker 1: these people are not all just bots. That they may
Speaker 1: be trolls, but they're not all just bots. Because I
Speaker 1: know for sure you know and you've done it too.
Speaker 1: I pressed the little request thing and let people in
Speaker 1: to get their perspective, and a lot of times, even
Speaker 1: somebody that called me a bed wench one time, I
Speaker 1: let him into my page and let him tell me
Speaker 1: his feelings. He was a real, live person, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: for me, Yes, there are women who come on my
Speaker 1: page who disagree with me a lot of times. It's
Speaker 1: the same Hayte and broad as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: it's somebody I know that created a fake page and
Speaker 1: they say and things that they would never say to
Speaker 1: my face as their real self, right, so they what
Speaker 1: they want to make a page so that they can
Speaker 1: say it. But it's cute, you know, you're paying attention
Speaker 1: to me. I get it. But you know it was
Speaker 1: a lot of black men, like I'm just I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, of course, And you know, maybe listen, I'm
Speaker 1: sure white people and white men also trolled me, right,
Speaker 1: And I see that, But it doesn't bother me in
Speaker 1: the same way when I see a brother challenging me,
Speaker 1: asking you know, or why we've in my head and
Speaker 1: you know, you know you ain't a real black woman.
Speaker 1: If you were, we've mind you as people that have
Speaker 1: natural here that don't do what we do every day.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that you can determine people's authenticity
Speaker 1: based upon what they were or whether they want a
Speaker 1: strip of pole at night. And you know, everybody has
Speaker 1: the right to care about their community. So I had that.
Speaker 1: I told you I had the bed winch comment. I
Speaker 1: get called a bitch on a regular basis. Throughout this
Speaker 1: election process. The level of division that has been aired
Speaker 1: out on social media among people in our community has
Speaker 1: been really painful. And so today's topic is social media.
Speaker 1: Is it a friend or folk? Because you know, we
Speaker 1: love it, but then it loves to hate us sometimes
Speaker 1: as well. And social media causes young people sometimes to
Speaker 1: commit suicide. It causes breakups and families, It causes a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. I was just watching um, you know,
Speaker 1: just not long ago, where Safari and Eric Amner was
Speaker 1: like having they were fighting on the internet and telling
Speaker 1: he was talking about he was a bachelor, and he
Speaker 1: had to come back and say he apologized. I don't
Speaker 1: even understand why y'all's personal business was on the internet
Speaker 1: to begin with, that you even needed to apologize to
Speaker 1: the inside. What happens is, I think the internet it's
Speaker 1: too easy of access, right. I think back in the days,
Speaker 1: all of our ancestors and civil rights activists and actors,
Speaker 1: they had something to say, they was thinking ship they'd
Speaker 1: be in the room and they'd been cussing, right, and
Speaker 1: they like, you ain't gonna go off, and they got
Speaker 1: ten minutes to think about it. When you're in your
Speaker 1: room and you piste off and somebody that says something
Speaker 1: about you on Instagram and you can immediately respond to that,
Speaker 1: and you probably got a couple of drinks in you,
Speaker 1: it's a very it's a very dangerous situation. Like you
Speaker 1: gotta talk you you know what many times that I
Speaker 1: gotta talk myself off. I'll be right this. My new
Speaker 1: thing is I just write full comments. I say that's him,
Speaker 1: this and that f you and this and that, and
Speaker 1: then I just deleted because I wrote that. I said,
Speaker 1: I wrote it, even though I don't send it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you to shud a bit. But I'm so
Speaker 1: the respectfulness. See. The thing is when I was the
Speaker 1: old used to be like SMD. You know, no, you
Speaker 1: used to say the full word. The new my son, right,
Speaker 1: that's MD, I invite you to the frank stand No,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you the eggplant. That's what I
Speaker 1: tell you, the egg I say you can. You're welcome
Speaker 1: to go to the frankstance. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So this is I don't really engage. And I say
Speaker 1: it very politely. I said, yes, brother, thank you, You're
Speaker 1: welcome to go to the franksta and if you want
Speaker 1: to get a couple of franks as many as post.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. It's just that then you
Speaker 1: know what they do. They don't from my pain dude
Speaker 1: from over there, because he's telling people, you know, people
Speaker 1: like this, to sit there, go to the room and
Speaker 1: they get their fake gun and they put the boar
Speaker 1: paint on and put their sneaks. You get a knife
Speaker 1: and i'ma kill you. I'm gonna kill you. And they
Speaker 1: don't even go having. These people they don't go outside.
Speaker 1: We never see them anywhere. I've got so many beef
Speaker 1: with people and I'm everywhere and everybody i've seen just
Speaker 1: give me hugs and kids, and I love. What you're
Speaker 1: doing with the internet will make you think there's a
Speaker 1: million people just trying to It really to me. One
Speaker 1: thing I will say though, during this election cycle, it
Speaker 1: was super important that people went to early vote, and
Speaker 1: it's so many people that didn't even know early voting
Speaker 1: was a thing. And I think we did a really
Speaker 1: good job alongside all of our allies like that towards
Speaker 1: that tour was instrumental in in ellection, right, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think nobody because when we look at the
Speaker 1: states that we visited, you know, people turned out and
Speaker 1: people turned out, and you seen how it reflected in
Speaker 1: the election. Very instrumental. And it was a nonpartisan election,
Speaker 1: I mean a nonpartisan get out the vote tour called
Speaker 1: state of Emergency. We are slogan was if y'all don't vote,
Speaker 1: they will kill us. And that's real and wow. But
Speaker 1: fearmongering happens every single day. And I think the Democrats
Speaker 1: and Republicans, it doesn't matter, they all use fearmongering. Sometimes
Speaker 1: fearmongering is called truth telling, right. It's just it's really
Speaker 1: forecasting for folks what could happen if we don't take action.
Speaker 1: But what I will say is that based upon the
Speaker 1: campaign that we use. So this is when social media
Speaker 1: was a friend to us. We were able to get
Speaker 1: over a hundred million people. And I'm not saying just us,
Speaker 1: but the collective effort of everyone who was out there
Speaker 1: to Roland Martin's the Angel Rise and just all the
Speaker 1: people Linda and an Angelo and by the way, we
Speaker 1: have to give a shout out to wote vote our
Speaker 1: partner and italire crew everybody and vote and you got
Speaker 1: to go follow woll vote. But the collective work of
Speaker 1: all of us telling people to go vote early had
Speaker 1: me a little shook because on election day when we
Speaker 1: were in Michigan and other places and we were like
Speaker 1: traveling around going to the polls, we were like, why
Speaker 1: is there no one online? But come to find out
Speaker 1: people had already shown up and guess what, Michigan not
Speaker 1: only showed up out for sure. So you know, it
Speaker 1: is definitely a friend at friend anafo at times, but
Speaker 1: that faux period can be really really dark, and you
Speaker 1: have to really you said something like social media is
Speaker 1: not real. It's really because it has power. No, But
Speaker 1: the thing is, it only has the power that you
Speaker 1: give to right. You understand what I'm saying. What what
Speaker 1: I know right is that every time somebody says negative
Speaker 1: things about me, it doesn't affect me. It doesn't stop
Speaker 1: me from thinking. It doesn't. We'll talk about that enough.
Speaker 1: You can listen to me. Do you ever see me
Speaker 1: stop talking? I see you. You don't know you know
Speaker 1: what I see you do? I don't see you stopped
Speaker 1: talking to uh. In other words, I don't see you
Speaker 1: get to a point where you don't use your platform.
Speaker 1: But what I do see you do is stop talking
Speaker 1: to all the humans around you and spend too much
Speaker 1: time focused on that phone and having your energy into
Speaker 1: responding to messages and going back and forth with people.
Speaker 1: And if it's not bothering you, if it's not as important,
Speaker 1: then the human interaction would not be impacted so much
Speaker 1: by your relationship to your cell phone. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's the human interaction is
Speaker 1: effective by it. I think it's I think it's a
Speaker 1: time and place, right. I think social media has become
Speaker 1: a way that we have gas our voice. As you know,
Speaker 1: we're on the front lines and we do the work
Speaker 1: in the streets, but I think social media has amplified it. Right,
Speaker 1: So I think when we in periods that I know
Speaker 1: that our voice needs to be amplified, or I know
Speaker 1: they are specific subject matters that need to be talking
Speaker 1: about regardless, and I'm gonna get and I know I
Speaker 1: want to people were too follows just going in. But
Speaker 1: what I do appreciate, I appreciate to give that even
Speaker 1: if it's a troll, even if it's a body. They
Speaker 1: say things that provokes conversation, and your response exactly is
Speaker 1: there as well, So somebody who's reading it, who may
Speaker 1: be misinformed by the first comment will therefore see a
Speaker 1: follow up. Still, I think we have to be careful
Speaker 1: how far we go down into the rabbit hole. And
Speaker 1: that brings me to my thought of the day, because
Speaker 1: this is something that I am literally really just trying
Speaker 1: to understand. Why do people follow folks that they don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't understand you follow me and you come to
Speaker 1: my page every day to complain, to talk about me,
Speaker 1: to say that I'm gonna sell out. I'm I'm paid
Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party. By the way, the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: they were staying as far away from me as possible
Speaker 1: um during the election process because we too radical, you know.
Speaker 1: Towards the end, when I think people begin to realize
Speaker 1: that they needed voices like mine, yours and others, they
Speaker 1: came around. But the establishment, if you will, of the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party that's not like, that's not my crew. Those
Speaker 1: people don't you know, I'm too radical. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we got kicked out of a debate and they put
Speaker 1: us and they put us on they kicked us out
Speaker 1: and put us in a block because we screamed fire
Speaker 1: pinout dragged us out a little bit. Pant Leo got
Speaker 1: fired and the Blasio got his ass or for that, President,
Speaker 1: you're here, you need to fire the cop in your
Speaker 1: own city before you go try to be the leader
Speaker 1: of the cops across the country. But anyway, that's a
Speaker 1: whole different conversation. But I just don't understand why people
Speaker 1: be on my path. Let me tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: It's a guy that was all types of crazy stuff
Speaker 1: the videos. Brother, what your issue with me? He's like,
Speaker 1: you don't have it. You just called me, So I
Speaker 1: kind a phone with him. He was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Really on the phone, he said,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you, like you're really here? Oh my bro,
Speaker 1: what what are you talking about? Swim? I'm never gonna
Speaker 1: say anything about you, but sometimes, But what I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to tell you is that is the original premise.
Speaker 1: This is the premence. We've seen other situations which we
Speaker 1: won't talk about on air, as when you've seen people
Speaker 1: that were in different positions that were talking about how
Speaker 1: they was fans and they've seen you at VT Awards
Speaker 1: and and you were supposed to be doing this with
Speaker 1: me and all this people have, they would coome fanatics,
Speaker 1: you know, they really they really want to be fans
Speaker 1: and friends of you. They want you to just engage them,
Speaker 1: so they get on your page just looking for any
Speaker 1: It was a guy that's come my page every post
Speaker 1: and I didn't understand him, and then I went to
Speaker 1: his page. He actually was We've repostings that was positive
Speaker 1: about me, and I'm like, this is the weirdest stuff.
Speaker 1: I think. I think a big part of it is
Speaker 1: that people don't have anything else to do with their
Speaker 1: time in their lives. They're sitting in their homes, they lonely,
Speaker 1: they have no friends that tempt to tell them. Like
Speaker 1: you know how when you go to an Instagram post
Speaker 1: and you see the comments, like the preview of comments,
Speaker 1: you can see your friend, the person you following made
Speaker 1: a comment. There's a girlfriend that I have that she's
Speaker 1: on everybody's comments, and because she's my friend, I contacted
Speaker 1: her to say, I just want you to know that
Speaker 1: you were in everybody's comments talking and I keep saying it,
Speaker 1: and you know what, she stopped because she was like dang,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize, yes you on this one comment trying
Speaker 1: to you and what she was doing was trying to
Speaker 1: get noticed by celebrities, right, so she going into celebrity
Speaker 1: pages and just be talking all the time. And it's
Speaker 1: really it's a sickness. The Internet can turn into a sickness.
Speaker 1: And if you're not careful, even a person who is
Speaker 1: stable in terms of you know, you got fan when
Speaker 1: you got income, you got all of that, you can
Speaker 1: get sucked into it in a way that it actually damages.
Speaker 1: You have to decompress you. It can damage, but it
Speaker 1: can actually damage your brand, which brings us to the
Speaker 1: branding expert that we have coming up. I'm so so
Speaker 1: super super duper excited to be talking to a queen
Speaker 1: somebody who is a trailblazer and just the leader in
Speaker 1: the branding and social media influencers space. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: a marketing strategist and all those good things. You say,
Speaker 1: she's czar in the hip hop world from a business perspective. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be talking to our dasis, the Karen
Speaker 1: Cibol today. We're gonna get some jews from the CEO CEO.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just in all of Karen
Speaker 1: tool like she didn't probably remember the first time that
Speaker 1: I've seen From the first time I've seen her, I
Speaker 1: just watched her continue to just elevate and connect to herself.
Speaker 1: It's different, you know, like our being the gen I
Speaker 1: would brand experts, the way she bonds, it's not just
Speaker 1: the same thing. And that's especial bonds. Bond bonds with
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. She call you and make
Speaker 1: sure you are right. She you know, she got an
Speaker 1: idea for you to take your ideas and she takes
Speaker 1: it to the next level. So that's what the brand
Speaker 1: experts is supposed to do. So we got we got
Speaker 1: our own Karen sil I don't I have to give
Speaker 1: some love to the bond in the family is actually
Speaker 1: the man, the James Bond. His name is Look, you
Speaker 1: listen to the names my guy man. I don't like
Speaker 1: a lot of people with James my guy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but was gonna be here with us and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get some jewels from her. We're gonna listen to her
Speaker 1: and understand what does she think about the climate of
Speaker 1: what's going on in the Internet and these trolls and
Speaker 1: these cloud chasers and kappers, and then in our activist
Speaker 1: second then we're gonna be talking to the teacher Wideman
Speaker 1: who is the sister of Jacob Blake. Every single episode
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to talk to an activists that's on
Speaker 1: the ground and somebody even a family remember, and just
Speaker 1: continue to elevate voices. Black media is super important so
Speaker 1: that our stories can be told properly in our people
Speaker 1: can get the right narrative from the right places that
Speaker 1: street politicians. And if we don't tell it before we
Speaker 1: go to the next segment and have our special guests joint,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors. That's so.
Speaker 1: I am just super honored to be joined today by
Speaker 1: a colleague, a home girl, and someone who I am
Speaker 1: definitely so inspired by. Um. You know, she may not
Speaker 1: know it, but I look up to and admire Karen Sybil.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you here, says thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: having me, congratulations on the show. Thank you, and were like,
Speaker 1: she's a fan, but I've always admired you, you know,
Speaker 1: being in the industry and just seeing how you know,
Speaker 1: what you've done, you know how there's knowing newing the
Speaker 1: story the better story, to seeing you grind and the
Speaker 1: way you just pretty much like you say that you
Speaker 1: are a creator and a CEO, but I think you
Speaker 1: actually create CEO. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. A medium,
Speaker 1: a medium, mobil and branding expert. UM. I think that
Speaker 1: anybody who does not know Karen Cibil needs to do
Speaker 1: some work and also follow the tips of the day
Speaker 1: to learn how to uh, you know, strategize on your
Speaker 1: own career. And again, I think what my son says,
Speaker 1: it is so true that you, Karen, have been able
Speaker 1: to sort of charge your own course. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know many people like Karen, Sybil. You definitely
Speaker 1: stand out in your own state. So that's why we
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you today. Election was crazy, presidential elections.
Speaker 1: Still dealing with the remnants of this election. UM. And
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I think we recognize
Speaker 1: the most is how much social media plays a role
Speaker 1: in everything that we do. Was certainly in the presidential election. UM.
Speaker 1: And you know, we just recently had a conversation with
Speaker 1: the young sister kJ which she went viral. While speaking
Speaker 1: before a police council. She was kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: she was giving it to him. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw the video. She was all over the internet
Speaker 1: of course, and um, but now you know she's dealing
Speaker 1: with intimidation from the police force and threats and other things. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and that also comes along with going viral.
Speaker 1: So it's such a you know, it's a situation where
Speaker 1: it can be good, but it's a catch twenty two
Speaker 1: because you always find yourself on the other end of
Speaker 1: the sword sometimes. Uh. And so I just wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of talk about thinking about this election, like what
Speaker 1: is what what should be or should we not be
Speaker 1: doing on social media with a situation like kJ. I
Speaker 1: loved her utilizing her platform. Unfortunately, the backlash of you know,
Speaker 1: police and officials, they're they're embarrassed, and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think they thought, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of the times that our voice is gonna be so loud,
Speaker 1: and they didn't think that that was gonna be so
Speaker 1: social and prominent. But I'm glad that she was able
Speaker 1: to utilize her platform like that because that's how we
Speaker 1: find out what's happening in certain communities, and that's what
Speaker 1: I love about, you know, social justice and people who
Speaker 1: are utilizing their platforms in these ways because unfortunately CNN
Speaker 1: and Fox aren't telling us about our community. It has
Speaker 1: to be us telling each other. You know, how you
Speaker 1: vote and your organization utilize and tell us what's going on,
Speaker 1: how we can help, what we can do. And it's
Speaker 1: great that there are people on the ground. So with
Speaker 1: that situation, I wouldn't tell her to do anything different.
Speaker 1: It's it's unfortunately when you use that your platform in
Speaker 1: that way where you know they you you eventually have
Speaker 1: a target on your back. But use your platform, and
Speaker 1: that's what it's there for to do that. And if
Speaker 1: it's something that you really love and it's something you
Speaker 1: really want your tomdiity to know about. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a big believer in the power of the tongue. So
Speaker 1: when I saw on Twitter and she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: they're trying to kill me, I'm like, listen, let's figure
Speaker 1: out a way. Hope you know, she gets with her
Speaker 1: team to figure out a way too, to help with
Speaker 1: that situation, to make sure that she is protected. But
Speaker 1: let's not speak this into fruition that something's gonna happen
Speaker 1: to you. Um, you know, you've been so successful that
Speaker 1: using utilize the social media. Have an artist utilize social media?
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's such things as tolling right there,
Speaker 1: you know. And I see so many artists and just
Speaker 1: different individuals who just utilize social media and I don't
Speaker 1: think they even think about what they say. I just
Speaker 1: think they just tried to give reaction and it actually works.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you what do you say about
Speaker 1: that patrolling versus actually really utilizing social media for something
Speaker 1: that's you're building a brand or what is the difference
Speaker 1: between trolling and just building a brain? Building? Building a
Speaker 1: brand is you're trying to create, You're trying to create
Speaker 1: a platform and a resource to help other people. Trolling
Speaker 1: is somebody who is for self, who wants who's ego driven,
Speaker 1: who wants popularity, and who's trying to make a moment
Speaker 1: about themselves. So when I see somebody like Little Pump,
Speaker 1: you're trolling. You want to to care about your music,
Speaker 1: you want to make the selection about you. I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk about you because it's not about you.
Speaker 1: Especially when children on cages, people l g B, t
Speaker 1: q I A plus are having their rights taken away.
Speaker 1: You are the government and officials are trying to are
Speaker 1: trying to tell us how how we're supposed to utilize
Speaker 1: our ovaries. These are the conversations that matter, not you
Speaker 1: you trying to get back onto iTunes, because the last
Speaker 1: time we cared about you was when you did a
Speaker 1: video with Kanye So those type of trolling is that
Speaker 1: is that's self serving, that's ego driven, and that has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with trying to create a community, trying
Speaker 1: to have purpose or anything else. That's just a moment.
Speaker 1: If I was a young person talking to you, I
Speaker 1: would say, well, I try to do the right thing
Speaker 1: on social media, and I have two hundred followers, but
Speaker 1: the trolls seem to have thousands of people who follow
Speaker 1: them and want to see that content. So how am
Speaker 1: I going to be able to create the same interest
Speaker 1: but using things that are not even just socially conscious,
Speaker 1: but just not being an idiot on the on the ground,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's like it's with those type of situations,
Speaker 1: how long those followers aren't engaged with you because they
Speaker 1: really like you or like they're really interested. It's just
Speaker 1: your entertainment for the moment. They don't care what happens
Speaker 1: to you after this there's no real substance there. And
Speaker 1: I always utilize this quote where I say, never step
Speaker 1: over a dollar to pick up a nickel, and that
Speaker 1: dollars your your integrity and just your moral compass and
Speaker 1: things that are your values. You know. It's just like
Speaker 1: that's more important than a million followers. I'd rather have
Speaker 1: a thousand authentic followers who will engage with me, who
Speaker 1: will actually, you know, um, if I dropped something, purchase it,
Speaker 1: you know, really support me. We see it now there
Speaker 1: are people who got millions of followers and they can't
Speaker 1: even crack the top ten on the Billboard charts. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what one of the things I've been
Speaker 1: warned about. You just watching how you were able to see, like,
Speaker 1: you know, our pity, just seeing that he was one
Speaker 1: of those artists who was taking along run that wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna compromise, and you utilize your skills it and you
Speaker 1: took what he had in the way I watch y'all build.
Speaker 1: You know, I sit and watch people don't really realize.
Speaker 1: When I watched y'all considered build from step by step,
Speaker 1: the same thing you deal with you built. It's it's
Speaker 1: longevity is the conversation and things people should strive for.
Speaker 1: When I look at like Nipsey and y G, you know,
Speaker 1: they're built from a different clause. They understand street codes
Speaker 1: and they have ethics, and then they come from you know,
Speaker 1: these are real upstanding black men who just understand and
Speaker 1: have morals. And it's just like, I'm not about to
Speaker 1: be on this internet and be goofy. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like with even with nip there would be times where
Speaker 1: like website shold him and he's like, Yo, I'm a
Speaker 1: smack the ships out of you when I see you.
Speaker 1: You would find the writer and be like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: smack ship out of you and they'd like, yo, it's
Speaker 1: just the post and he'd be like, no, that's not
Speaker 1: how it works. I don't like, I'm a man. I
Speaker 1: am a man on this Internet and off this Internet,
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna play with me in that manner.
Speaker 1: So that's a lot that a lot of the time
Speaker 1: is allowed. Now. You know, certain people don't have guidance
Speaker 1: and they're so driven by fame. But it's like once
Speaker 1: you have it, what keeps you there? What what continues
Speaker 1: to make you stay in that place? Is just like Okay,
Speaker 1: you troll to get your way here, but what's the
Speaker 1: substance behind it? Why are these people following you? Why
Speaker 1: should they engage with you? Nothing comes from it, and
Speaker 1: eventually it's gonna joins the law. The thing is, people
Speaker 1: think followers are fans. Know, followers are not your fans,
Speaker 1: and they're not your consumers. Yet they follow you because
Speaker 1: it's free, right, and sometimes their trolls too on your page,
Speaker 1: like you've got a bunch of trolls exactly. So it's
Speaker 1: like you have to figure out a way to turn
Speaker 1: those followers into um to people who are engaging, turn
Speaker 1: turn that engagement into your fans, your fans into consumers.
Speaker 1: So those steps a lot of a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't take. They just be like, I want to be
Speaker 1: a troll, I want a certain amount of followers, and
Speaker 1: they feel like that's all that's needed. But that's not
Speaker 1: going to keep you to that. That's not gonna keep
Speaker 1: you in in the kingdom. It's gonna have you right
Speaker 1: back in the valley. Let me ask you this question.
Speaker 1: And by the way, you dropping gems that I hope
Speaker 1: a lot of young folks listen to because they are
Speaker 1: caught up in the numbers, and the numbers, as you said,
Speaker 1: are not always real. But I had a situation during
Speaker 1: the election cycle where an elderly person who I'm friends
Speaker 1: with with sharing fake news, And I'm wondering, what are
Speaker 1: you saying to your artists and other people that you're
Speaker 1: closely aligned with about how they should go about research
Speaker 1: and information before sharing and posting stuff, because everybody's just
Speaker 1: sharing anything. Meanwhile, some of it is coming from snopes
Speaker 1: dot com and Paul's mama did it dot net? You know,
Speaker 1: and and it's it's it's misinformation that's getting out there
Speaker 1: that actually influences things like an election. It's honestly having
Speaker 1: conversations with people, and it's just like listener's information you're
Speaker 1: spreading is inaccurate. On Facebook, it got to a point
Speaker 1: on my personal Facebook, I had to delete and remove
Speaker 1: people that I was friends with from high school, who
Speaker 1: I engage with, and a lot of the propaganda they
Speaker 1: were sharing, I'm like, listen, this is inaccurate. First I
Speaker 1: would tell them, you know, this is a bit inaccurate. Um,
Speaker 1: then they still continue to share it and I have
Speaker 1: to remove myself from that situation because I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep seeing it, and it's like you can engage
Speaker 1: and have the conversation and tell them and presented to them.
Speaker 1: But sometimes people now are in this space of a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory sounds better than the truth. It's okay to,
Speaker 1: you know, check your ego and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert in this in this space, let
Speaker 1: me go to an expert and ask is this true?
Speaker 1: Does this makes sense? Can I borrow your ear and
Speaker 1: get an understanding. It's okay to to to be humble
Speaker 1: or to ask for advice and and to understand that.
Speaker 1: But I just really hope people understand that the same
Speaker 1: way we respect the doctors and the loyals, lawyer respect
Speaker 1: you know, people in this political climate who are fighting
Speaker 1: for us, who are doing certain things. I'm happy, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't protest. I made a sign, but again it
Speaker 1: doesn't put me to the same level as you, and
Speaker 1: people gotta understand and respect that too. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you this last thing and then let you go.
Speaker 1: This idea of cloud chasing, because I hear people tell
Speaker 1: me I'm cloud chasing chasing sometimes and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I am the cloud. But whatever you know and the chase,
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm just trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: is the balance with this idea of cloud chasing. Isn't
Speaker 1: that something that everybody has a little bit of it
Speaker 1: or is it just something that people throw around to
Speaker 1: be able to avoid dealing with whatever the real issue
Speaker 1: is that's being discussed, because that's what I usually hear
Speaker 1: is that if I come out and speak against um,
Speaker 1: you know, a product, a brand, then they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you just cloud chasing and trying to get trying to
Speaker 1: get acknowledge. Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna use this
Speaker 1: as a reference when it comes to both of you.
Speaker 1: There's no cloud chasing. You've been doing this for so
Speaker 1: long and setting examples, whether people understand it or not,
Speaker 1: whether you were making a million dollars or or not,
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. You're doing this because
Speaker 1: you care about our people, and this is a known fact.
Speaker 1: You're really in the streets handling stuff, literally moved, you know,
Speaker 1: to an area to make sure that I need to
Speaker 1: protest and be there because I don't want to be
Speaker 1: getting off a bus a plane. I need the people
Speaker 1: to know I am on the ground and I'm here
Speaker 1: for you, and this is not even you telling me this,
Speaker 1: it's me witnessing it and seeing all the stuff you're
Speaker 1: doing on social media with your team. Beyonce acknowledges you.
Speaker 1: You know why, because she sees the work you're doing.
Speaker 1: You didn't go to the You didn't go to the
Speaker 1: booth and say, Yo, drop me in this six team quick.
Speaker 1: You didn't ask for that because you have people engaged
Speaker 1: and who want to hit you, and it's just like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's going on. I want to be a part of
Speaker 1: what you're doing. The thing that works for you is
Speaker 1: you're not running to people. They're coming to you because
Speaker 1: they see the work that you're doing is very authentic
Speaker 1: and it's you. That's what separates you from other people
Speaker 1: who are out here cloud chasing because all of that
Speaker 1: is very self serving that it's driven by ego. You
Speaker 1: are driven by love and purpose and change and progression
Speaker 1: for the community. Those two don't add up. So whoever
Speaker 1: is doing that, you might want to send them back
Speaker 1: to school because obviously they don't know how to add
Speaker 1: we appreciate you school. Yeah, that was a whole That
Speaker 1: was a whole lecture, right, Yes, y'all get the messages
Speaker 1: y'all can send them my way. We want to appreciate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the work that you do is phenomenon. I've just I've
Speaker 1: been a signing just watching you. Any artists that works
Speaker 1: with you can attest to where you career. I busily
Speaker 1: see that. So I just want to celebrate you. And
Speaker 1: I was right now, thank you you're no longer behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. You are they want to make something of its. Appreciate, right,
Speaker 1: we said, thank you for taking the time with us.
Speaker 1: Appreciate anytime we're gonna need you, We're gonna need you
Speaker 1: to help us without strategy. I'm here. I'm here. You
Speaker 1: know we're talking yesterday, so I'm here when you guys
Speaker 1: are right. All right, that was pretty cool. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously Karen has a wealth of knowledge. You know, she's
Speaker 1: a legend in her own right. We know what she's done.
Speaker 1: But it's, you know, conversation we always sort of come
Speaker 1: back to this idea that black women. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you do? Are you really qualified for the
Speaker 1: job that you had? But we know that you know,
Speaker 1: she's really an incredible voice, that she also has a
Speaker 1: lot of character. Because you know, when you meet Karen,
Speaker 1: if you don't really know her She's not going to
Speaker 1: just be super duper friendly, which I understand because there
Speaker 1: is so much negative energy out here. But as you
Speaker 1: get to know her, you know that she's willing to
Speaker 1: help im and she's been supportive about organization until freedom,
Speaker 1: uh you know, steps right in and it's always super
Speaker 1: strategic in her thinking. And so I love her Definitely.
Speaker 1: She's a dope personality when she's when she's done the
Speaker 1: contributions that she has to hip hop, it's not even known,
Speaker 1: but you know she's been behind the scenes. But now,
Speaker 1: like you said, she is the scene. So that was
Speaker 1: definitely that we could have talked to her about. Because
Speaker 1: branding in itself is something that she does. And how
Speaker 1: she's able to align brands with social good with artists
Speaker 1: and entertainers and athletes, that's such a it's a skill
Speaker 1: like everyone doesn't have it. And how she is able
Speaker 1: to do it while allowing the personality, if you will,
Speaker 1: to be authentic is a whole other conversation. So we've
Speaker 1: got to invite her to come back. How is she
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us and talk to our sistem
Speaker 1: but of course our super branding expert, LaToya LaToya Bond
Speaker 1: who who is that LaToya Bond? Who is lat my manager.
Speaker 1: Toya Bond is the manager extraordinaire. She's the mama, she's
Speaker 1: the big sister. She runs the show. LaToya Bond Is,
Speaker 1: She's a queen and we love her to death. I'm so,
Speaker 1: you know, happy that we continue to do this segment
Speaker 1: dealing with activists in our community, people who are on
Speaker 1: the ground across this country. And today we're being joined
Speaker 1: by a young woman who is she saw to serve
Speaker 1: as dual roles. She became an activist with First of all,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it, but I'm sure it was
Speaker 1: already in her spirit, so she wasn't on the ground.
Speaker 1: She should have been, because you know, you can hear
Speaker 1: it in the passion that she speaks with. But she
Speaker 1: certainly got thrust into the limelight, unfortunately as a victim
Speaker 1: of a family member of a victim of police brutality,
Speaker 1: and that is Jacob Blake who was shot in the
Speaker 1: back by police officers just a few months ago. He
Speaker 1: thank god, he lives. Um he was paralyzed, but he is,
Speaker 1: he is not um deceased. And unfortunately, too many times
Speaker 1: the hashtag is that this person is no longer with us,
Speaker 1: and that didn't happen in this situation. UH. And so
Speaker 1: it's really good to be joined by this young woman
Speaker 1: who is now using her voice not just to talk
Speaker 1: about her brother, but also to shed light on other
Speaker 1: families and other situations that have happened across the country
Speaker 1: and things that are happening in her local community. So
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have the teacher Widman to join
Speaker 1: us again, the sister of Jacob Blake, who had lots
Speaker 1: to say. And I know because I talked on her
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. The teacher, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being with us on street politicians doing today. Hey,
Speaker 1: hey my son, Hey Tamika, thanks for having me. UM.
Speaker 1: I do want to get any opportunity I can to
Speaker 1: UM make my voice heard. But I definitely was into
Speaker 1: activism way before my brother was shot. UM. Actually my
Speaker 1: family caused me a teacher X or my next junior. UM,
Speaker 1: I've been protesting for a long time. I did a
Speaker 1: black uh a Black Lives Matter of protests in Evanston
Speaker 1: some years back. I had my free double Dutch class
Speaker 1: at Falls Park District in North Chicago. UM. I was
Speaker 1: doing gardens with the kids on my block, we would
Speaker 1: do community clean up where we would just go and
Speaker 1: take all the trash. And I live in a neighbor
Speaker 1: hood that we can call, I guess the hood. I
Speaker 1: just was doing my own little projects. Anything I could
Speaker 1: do to get my hands and something to benefit my
Speaker 1: community and the children, the youth in my community. That's whatever.
Speaker 1: That's what I was doing. But that's so important, right
Speaker 1: because some people think that being an activist or being
Speaker 1: an organizer means that you have to be on the
Speaker 1: front line marching and protesting and you know, being arrested
Speaker 1: or or or committing acts of simple disobedience in order
Speaker 1: to get your voice heard. We don't often consider what
Speaker 1: it looks like to take care of your community, and
Speaker 1: how activism also lies in the idea that we have
Speaker 1: to be internal about our fight just as much as
Speaker 1: we are external. Yeah, definitely, And a lot of people
Speaker 1: forget about that part. Um. They show up to the
Speaker 1: protests and they you know, or they're writing, they're doing
Speaker 1: whatever they're doing, and then whatever, whenever they get back
Speaker 1: home and everything settles down, they kind of like forgetting.
Speaker 1: They go back to their regular life. And before my
Speaker 1: brother was shot, it was always something on the forefront
Speaker 1: of my mind, and I felt very compelled to do something.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what exactly I could do or
Speaker 1: I should be doing, and so UM, I just you know,
Speaker 1: put myself in different positions to serve. Actually, how I
Speaker 1: started doing the Double Dust program, I was serving the
Speaker 1: elderly people at a park opening in North Chicago, and Um,
Speaker 1: the treasurer of North Chicago walked up to me and
Speaker 1: he was like, who are you? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just so a ticture. Um. He's like, what do
Speaker 1: you do. I'm like, I'm I'm a barber. He was like,
Speaker 1: I need somebody to do a free program at my
Speaker 1: park district. I was like, well, I'll do it, but
Speaker 1: if I do it, I need a favor from you too.
Speaker 1: And he was like, what said? I said, I need
Speaker 1: funds to do a free Black history class in North
Speaker 1: Chicago for the kids. I'm all with, you know, activities,
Speaker 1: physical activities, but these kids need to learn their educate
Speaker 1: their history. Um and he and he was like Okay,
Speaker 1: we gotta deal. So that's how I ended up starting
Speaker 1: the Double Dutch class at Frost Park. And I thought
Speaker 1: Double Dutch was a great idea because we used to
Speaker 1: back in the day. You ride around in a black
Speaker 1: neighborhood in the nineties and the eighties, everybody was playing
Speaker 1: double dutch. You know, these kids nowadays, they're they're on
Speaker 1: their cell phones, uh sending pictures to boys and stuff.
Speaker 1: They're so hooked up in that stuff. They don't even
Speaker 1: go outside and really enjoy being a kid anymore. So
Speaker 1: I was like, we gotta bring that old school stuff back,
Speaker 1: and you know, and I think double Dutch was a
Speaker 1: great way to do that. It sounds to me what
Speaker 1: I'm hearing, and after meeting your father, Jacob Blake Senior
Speaker 1: or I think it's an incredible voice, strong, passionate group
Speaker 1: of people you are. And I hear you talking about
Speaker 1: your community work, cleaning up the community, working with young people,
Speaker 1: double dutch, being an activist in your own right, And
Speaker 1: then I see what your brother was doing that day,
Speaker 1: going to deescalate a situation that took place in our community.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what we ask our men, uh and just
Speaker 1: people in the community in general to do. Here there's
Speaker 1: a problem, step in and try your best to to
Speaker 1: to stop it from becoming a bigger problem. And and
Speaker 1: in turn, the way he was thanked, if you will,
Speaker 1: by the police and the authorities was not only to
Speaker 1: shoot him and almost kill him, but then to try
Speaker 1: to criminalize and afterwards. Yeah, and we definitely are calling
Speaker 1: for black people to hold their self accountable for our communities.
Speaker 1: We have to police our own communities. We have to
Speaker 1: run for UM a seat in our own cities and
Speaker 1: UM and states. We have to get out and vote
Speaker 1: for these people that run. We have to represent ourselves.
Speaker 1: We have to look out for our own children. We
Speaker 1: have to look out for our own dollars. We have
Speaker 1: to spend our money in our communities, and we have
Speaker 1: to stop letting our money leave our community for its
Speaker 1: circles even one time in our community. So we definitely
Speaker 1: we can sit and talk to you all day. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have you to come back. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being with us today. We appreciate your voice. You
Speaker 1: know what you're doing, and you have a home at
Speaker 1: Street Politicians, anytime you want to come back to give
Speaker 1: us an upding on what you're doing in the local
Speaker 1: community and nationally. Because you said you're going on the
Speaker 1: robot until freedoms. Yes, I'm waiting for you to call
Speaker 1: me to do my internship or whatever. I gotta back
Speaker 1: getting started. Did I see my love that's my guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, our prayers and everything is yours. So
Speaker 1: we appreciate. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Love you guys. Start, thank you, thank you. Before we
Speaker 1: go to the next segment, we're gonna take a quick
Speaker 1: break for our sponsors. I love her. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: she's super. Listen, she was getting ready to fight me
Speaker 1: in New York. I don't think she was the other
Speaker 1: you know, but even she like and I don't mean
Speaker 1: in a negative way. I think of a teacher is amazing.
Speaker 1: But she had a real passive, passionate speech and if
Speaker 1: you listen to her, she's deep, like super deep. But
Speaker 1: she was, you know, gonna give her I have a
Speaker 1: dream speech during the march where we only a rallied,
Speaker 1: we only had a little bit of time. So glad
Speaker 1: that we were able to give her an opportunity. It
Speaker 1: makes sense now to learn that she's actually a poet.
Speaker 1: It's so much about these families that we come into
Speaker 1: contact with as a result of um, you know, some tragedy,
Speaker 1: and then you find out about the greatness of black
Speaker 1: folks all over the place, and and it's sad that
Speaker 1: that's how we're being connected and our family just continues
Speaker 1: to grow. You think about Sabrina Fulton, you think about
Speaker 1: Constance Malcolm, the mother of Ramley Graham. To make a Palmer,
Speaker 1: it's just too many days when car's too many names,
Speaker 1: Shawn Bell's family and now the Blake family mean Jacob
Speaker 1: Blake srs. As you said, he's such a dope guy.
Speaker 1: Um And I'm happy that we're able to provide a
Speaker 1: teacher with the platform and we got to do more
Speaker 1: with her. Definitely, definitely she's going. So you don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. You never get anything. That's why
Speaker 1: I wait, That's why I have a segment called I
Speaker 1: don't get I don't get it. So I just want
Speaker 1: to know this. What I don't get is why do
Speaker 1: dudes that really don't have money flash money on instant?
Speaker 1: Dudes that really don't have How do you know they
Speaker 1: don't have money? Because give you example, we have Adrian Brouna. Adrian,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, listen, Adrian Brouna has a lawsuit, right
Speaker 1: he doesn't pay the lawsuit, the lawyer access him. What
Speaker 1: happened to the money that you had on Instagram. I've
Speaker 1: seen all the money, he said, my friends, some of
Speaker 1: my friends sent it to me, somebody linked to him. Now,
Speaker 1: if you have all this money, paid lawsuit. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: if you don't have the money, don't pay the lawsuit.
Speaker 1: They don't flows like it's not even common sense because
Speaker 1: you put you put Instagram. This is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. The Instagram is so dangerous. You put yourself
Speaker 1: in so much jeopardy with the law, with the thieves,
Speaker 1: with the stick up kids. Everybody is coming for you.
Speaker 1: Now you got you don't put money on Instagram that
Speaker 1: even if you do got it, you're target just money
Speaker 1: as in cash. Are you talking about people? Because there's
Speaker 1: there's a lot of flaunting that goes on on the
Speaker 1: internet in general, cars, clothes, all that, and then you
Speaker 1: find out people don't even own the house that they're
Speaker 1: it's called capping, or as Karen Sibyl says, it is
Speaker 1: cloud chasing self servant. It's about Yeah, man, I just
Speaker 1: really don't get it. I don't think that people are
Speaker 1: taking the time to even think, like, if you if
Speaker 1: people are hungry, you show you got Instagram and people
Speaker 1: most people don't got money and you're putting wads of money.
Speaker 1: Ten you count on dollars, you make yourself a talking Now.
Speaker 1: I guess some people see it as motivations. Some people
Speaker 1: see it as something else. But when somebody don't got nothing,
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to take it from you. You're saying,
Speaker 1: you put yourself in home's way. I just I really
Speaker 1: don't get it. And I've never been a person to
Speaker 1: do It's people that do it, and not saying everybody's
Speaker 1: bad to do it, but I personally don't get it
Speaker 1: because I've never seen how it really benefited anybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: that I've seen do it have got theselves in situations,
Speaker 1: somebody trying to rob them, somebody trying to extort. You know,
Speaker 1: dudes is doing it. They're selling drugs and and and
Speaker 1: the fans. It's not going only dog because they didn't
Speaker 1: see you put you don't mean times, dudes, I knew
Speaker 1: it was in the streets hustling, because you know, I'm
Speaker 1: still privy to knowledge in the streets. You know, dudes,
Speaker 1: I knew it was in the streets doing wrong. And
Speaker 1: I see them, I'm saying I knew I was. You know,
Speaker 1: I just even though you're not in the streets. You
Speaker 1: still got your into the streets. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So well, I'm trying to talk them out the streets.
Speaker 1: I know they're still in the streets, so I go
Speaker 1: to the Instagram page. I mean, listen, listen, listen, the
Speaker 1: gangster will woke it. It is so at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I know you in the street, you
Speaker 1: know you in the streets doing and you're putting a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand hours on instant I got the nerves. Ain't
Speaker 1: got the nerve to say, why comes? That's actually who
Speaker 1: told on you? You told on you people wearing this
Speaker 1: stuff that they purchased in through a scam. And then
Speaker 1: when you ask them like, well how did you get that?
Speaker 1: I can't talk about that. You told everybody on the
Speaker 1: internet about it, so obviously you can talk about it
Speaker 1: because everybody knows it, and the people you scamp they
Speaker 1: know it too. But I don't get that one either.
Speaker 1: But I will say that unfortunately, you know, I have
Speaker 1: to bring it to a social justice sort of conversation
Speaker 1: that poverty has created this sense of um just it's
Speaker 1: like it's like a drought, like people are hungry people
Speaker 1: and they want to experience. They want to be seen
Speaker 1: in a sexy, swab positive light. So they go on
Speaker 1: the Graham, which is the only place that most people
Speaker 1: even pay attention to. The Gram is not real life.
Speaker 1: It's not your real life. People. People are trying to
Speaker 1: live their whole life based on the best sixty seconds
Speaker 1: and somebody else. Just imagine that they're looking at sixty
Speaker 1: seconds of somebody's life and they said, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's how I need my whole life to be their life.
Speaker 1: Ain't even like that. Don't get caught up in the Graham.
Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in the cloud chase, and don't
Speaker 1: get caught up in the fake money and the money
Speaker 1: that they do involved in their friends because it's so oversatural.
Speaker 1: But that's what is it? What is it faking? That's
Speaker 1: what it's called. That's the old. Well it's good, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know this. This conversation today is really good
Speaker 1: because and I want to like clip pieces of it
Speaker 1: and make sure that some of the young people, and
Speaker 1: I live, some of the young people that I know,
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to hear from somebody like Karen said,
Speaker 1: who was really breaking down the difference between being a
Speaker 1: troll self serving and being an actual brand and what
Speaker 1: it takes to be able to different or else you'll
Speaker 1: be running around be a one hit wonder. And I
Speaker 1: thought it was a real, real good episode of Street
Speaker 1: Politicians with black effect also being carried by I Woman TV.
Speaker 1: You know cat Trick, our heart, uh and soul of
Speaker 1: the Street Politicians brand. Yes, and we appreciate everybody for
Speaker 1: tuning in once again, thank you for tuning into Street Politicians.
Speaker 1: We don't always agree. We haven't. We didn't do too bad.
Speaker 1: I might not. We might not always be right. You
Speaker 1: might not always right. I might. That's what I said,
Speaker 1: we because I'm usually what I using. You might not
Speaker 1: always be right. We might not always be wrong, but
Speaker 1: we always are going to be authentic. That's not we
Speaker 1: own it.