WEBVTT - A Guide to Online Misinformation 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:09.040 What's going on. And I'm Timid Mallory and Mr Street 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:14.440 Politicians the place with streets and politics me wow, wow wow. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:19.040 First of all, the Black Effect. Shout out to our homeboy, 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:23.400 our good brother and friend, Charlomagne. God just watching the 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:28.160 Black Effect already growing as Charlemagne's new podcast network and 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:32.519 us being able to this, this this baby of yours. 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.640 Really Street Politicians, I'm taking a little bit, a little 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.040 bit of credit. Uh, you're watching us all grow together. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.599 This is what Charlemagne's been talking about, is what we've 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:44.920 been talking about. So it's so dope, you know. Shout 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.000 out to my heart for giving Charlemagne the opportunity to 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.440 partner with them, and then of course our dope family 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.800 and our Women TV for bringing us to you in 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.600 living color. Uh. There is so much happening coming out 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:03.320 of this presidential action. I think the internet has I 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.200 don't know, I'm sort of turned off from the Internet 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.720 because it's just been so much drama and it's been 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.240 so um just I don't know. It's like a lot 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:18.520 of the troll and the I don't even know if 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.760 it's trolling. It's the hate that you receive. It's um 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.560 you just gotta think about it when you when you 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.920 think about who Donald Trump is, what he represents, and 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.319 you know him being the president of the United States, 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:37.000 it just started going downhill. Just brings out the worst 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.959 in everybody. My ded listened to me. My page, it's 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.520 like a war zone. It is your comments. Sometimes I 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.000 go in, but I gotta it's like double Dutch, Like 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.240 when I go in, I gotta be like you're going in, 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.560 you gotta be ready for real. Like I remember men 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.440 the sales posted something on my page and she wrote 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.520 one comment and it was like a thousand comments, but 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.760 she damned me, like it are relentless. Look, it's like 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.280 a jungle with this is World War three of you 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.920 a second tone for that by the way in which 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:14.840 you um represent yourself sometimes on your page, first of all, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.959 you get yourself into the most controversial topics ever, which 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.560 what you like to do, because it does help you 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:25.120 to be able to bring attention to some of the 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.960 other issues, like the deeper issues involved in all these 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.480 different scenarios. But it's just be some stuff like you 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.639 know what Mike is, just just miss it, like missing 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.560 for if I miss it, I would miss it. If 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.359 somebody else is gonna catch it. Yeah, but well but 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.200 you know nobody else. The reality is the rest of 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.120 our lives and not danger. But you make us tired 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.080 because then we gotta go in there. Then people be 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.160 tagging me like, yo, do you see what he's said? 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.800 And I gotta go in there and fight with people. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.239 And sometimes I got to go in there and fight 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.960 with you. It's a lot your comments is it's really 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:00.639 serious in my comments. If you go on and say 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.360 any it's like that on your page to did you 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.680 say something bad about me? Some days I don't have 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.240 to say anything because people just tear folks. But I 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.480 just think during this election and all of the things, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.440 I think it was just way. I just think that 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.200 the level of the Russian boots and trolls that came 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.640 out of nowhere, that just coming. But they're not. But yo, 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.840 these people are not all just bots. That they may 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.640 be trolls, but they're not all just bots. Because I 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.360 know for sure you know and you've done it too. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.800 I pressed the little request thing and let people in 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.200 to get their perspective, and a lot of times, even 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.840 somebody that called me a bed wench one time, I 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.400 let him into my page and let him tell me 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.720 his feelings. He was a real, live person, and unfortunately 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.160 for me, Yes, there are women who come on my 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.320 page who disagree with me a lot of times. It's 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.760 the same Hayte and broad as far as I'm concerned, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.640 it's somebody I know that created a fake page and 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.680 they say and things that they would never say to 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.200 my face as their real self, right, so they what 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.240 they want to make a page so that they can 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.280 say it. But it's cute, you know, you're paying attention 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.200 to me. I get it. But you know it was 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.280 a lot of black men, like I'm just I gotta 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.599 tell you, of course, And you know, maybe listen, I'm 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.640 sure white people and white men also trolled me, right, 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.760 And I see that, But it doesn't bother me in 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.159 the same way when I see a brother challenging me, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.479 asking you know, or why we've in my head and 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.000 you know, you know you ain't a real black woman. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.560 If you were, we've mind you as people that have 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:40.120 natural here that don't do what we do every day. 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:44.799 So I don't think that you can determine people's authenticity 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.440 based upon what they were or whether they want a 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.480 strip of pole at night. And you know, everybody has 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.680 the right to care about their community. So I had that. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:54.599 I told you I had the bed winch comment. I 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.120 get called a bitch on a regular basis. Throughout this 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:01.360 election process. The level of division that has been aired 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.599 out on social media among people in our community has 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:10.400 been really painful. And so today's topic is social media. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.800 Is it a friend or folk? Because you know, we 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.760 love it, but then it loves to hate us sometimes 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:21.400 as well. And social media causes young people sometimes to 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.800 commit suicide. It causes breakups and families, It causes a 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:27.880 lot of stuff. I was just watching um, you know, 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.920 just not long ago, where Safari and Eric Amner was 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.039 like having they were fighting on the internet and telling 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:35.919 he was talking about he was a bachelor, and he 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.120 had to come back and say he apologized. I don't 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.200 even understand why y'all's personal business was on the internet 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.840 to begin with, that you even needed to apologize to 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.440 the inside. What happens is, I think the internet it's 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.360 too easy of access, right. I think back in the days, 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:55.160 all of our ancestors and civil rights activists and actors, 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.320 they had something to say, they was thinking ship they'd 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.640 be in the room and they'd been cussing, right, and 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.960 they like, you ain't gonna go off, and they got 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.120 ten minutes to think about it. When you're in your 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.880 room and you piste off and somebody that says something 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.720 about you on Instagram and you can immediately respond to that, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:13.359 and you probably got a couple of drinks in you, 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.880 it's a very it's a very dangerous situation. Like you 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:19.520 gotta talk you you know what many times that I 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.080 gotta talk myself off. I'll be right this. My new 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.200 thing is I just write full comments. I say that's him, 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.680 this and that f you and this and that, and 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.000 then I just deleted because I wrote that. I said, 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:36.160 I wrote it, even though I don't send it. I mean, 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:37.800 I'll tell you to shud a bit. But I'm so 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:42.680 the respectfulness. See. The thing is when I was the 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:47.080 old used to be like SMD. You know, no, you 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.080 used to say the full word. The new my son, right, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:55.360 that's MD, I invite you to the frank stand No, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.160 I was gonna ask you the eggplant. That's what I 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:02.360 tell you, the egg I say you can. You're welcome 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.480 to go to the frankstance. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.960 So this is I don't really engage. And I say 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.280 it very politely. I said, yes, brother, thank you, You're 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.080 welcome to go to the franksta and if you want 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.800 to get a couple of franks as many as post. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.720 That's what I'm talking about. It's just that then you 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:23.040 know what they do. They don't from my pain dude 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.320 from over there, because he's telling people, you know, people 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.560 like this, to sit there, go to the room and 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.560 they get their fake gun and they put the boar 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.320 paint on and put their sneaks. You get a knife 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:43.960 and i'ma kill you. I'm gonna kill you. And they 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.960 don't even go having. These people they don't go outside. 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.239 We never see them anywhere. I've got so many beef 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.840 with people and I'm everywhere and everybody i've seen just 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.080 give me hugs and kids, and I love. What you're 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.280 doing with the internet will make you think there's a 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.480 million people just trying to It really to me. One 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.040 thing I will say though, during this election cycle, it 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.960 was super important that people went to early vote, and 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.720 it's so many people that didn't even know early voting 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.080 was a thing. And I think we did a really 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:18.560 good job alongside all of our allies like that towards 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.920 that tour was instrumental in in ellection, right, and I don't. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.120 I don't think nobody because when we look at the 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.920 states that we visited, you know, people turned out and 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:34.000 people turned out, and you seen how it reflected in 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:39.960 the election. Very instrumental. And it was a nonpartisan election, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.679 I mean a nonpartisan get out the vote tour called 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:48.120 state of Emergency. We are slogan was if y'all don't vote, 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:55.320 they will kill us. And that's real and wow. But 0:08:55.440 --> 0:09:01.080 fearmongering happens every single day. And I think the Democrats 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.199 and Republicans, it doesn't matter, they all use fearmongering. Sometimes 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.480 fearmongering is called truth telling, right. It's just it's really 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:14.040 forecasting for folks what could happen if we don't take action. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.800 But what I will say is that based upon the 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.679 campaign that we use. So this is when social media 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.480 was a friend to us. We were able to get 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.480 over a hundred million people. And I'm not saying just us, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.440 but the collective effort of everyone who was out there 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.560 to Roland Martin's the Angel Rise and just all the 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.960 people Linda and an Angelo and by the way, we 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.000 have to give a shout out to wote vote our 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:52.280 partner and italire crew everybody and vote and you got 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.920 to go follow woll vote. But the collective work of 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:00.240 all of us telling people to go vote early had 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.480 me a little shook because on election day when we 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.720 were in Michigan and other places and we were like 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.520 traveling around going to the polls, we were like, why 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.240 is there no one online? But come to find out 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.320 people had already shown up and guess what, Michigan not 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:20.520 only showed up out for sure. So you know, it 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.280 is definitely a friend at friend anafo at times, but 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.800 that faux period can be really really dark, and you 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.320 have to really you said something like social media is 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:37.880 not real. It's really because it has power. No, But 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.600 the thing is, it only has the power that you 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.880 give to right. You understand what I'm saying. What what 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.920 I know right is that every time somebody says negative 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.640 things about me, it doesn't affect me. It doesn't stop 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.640 me from thinking. It doesn't. We'll talk about that enough. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.200 You can listen to me. Do you ever see me 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:56.400 stop talking? I see you. You don't know you know 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.440 what I see you do? I don't see you stopped 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.040 talking to uh. In other words, I don't see you 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.640 get to a point where you don't use your platform. 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.640 But what I do see you do is stop talking 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.040 to all the humans around you and spend too much 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.800 time focused on that phone and having your energy into 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.280 responding to messages and going back and forth with people. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:21.240 And if it's not bothering you, if it's not as important, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:26.360 then the human interaction would not be impacted so much 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.400 by your relationship to your cell phone. Well, I don't 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.760 think it's I don't think it's the human interaction is 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.720 effective by it. I think it's I think it's a 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.880 time and place, right. I think social media has become 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:43.920 a way that we have gas our voice. As you know, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.600 we're on the front lines and we do the work 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.600 in the streets, but I think social media has amplified it. Right, 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.840 So I think when we in periods that I know 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.000 that our voice needs to be amplified, or I know 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.800 they are specific subject matters that need to be talking 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.760 about regardless, and I'm gonna get and I know I 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:04.000 want to people were too follows just going in. But 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:08.880 what I do appreciate, I appreciate to give that even 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.160 if it's a troll, even if it's a body. They 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:18.280 say things that provokes conversation, and your response exactly is 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.839 there as well, So somebody who's reading it, who may 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.080 be misinformed by the first comment will therefore see a 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.560 follow up. Still, I think we have to be careful 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.720 how far we go down into the rabbit hole. And 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.560 that brings me to my thought of the day, because 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.199 this is something that I am literally really just trying 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:40.320 to understand. Why do people follow folks that they don't like. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.560 I don't understand you follow me and you come to 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.440 my page every day to complain, to talk about me, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.559 to say that I'm gonna sell out. I'm I'm paid 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.600 by the Democratic Party. By the way, the Democratic Party, 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.199 they were staying as far away from me as possible 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.800 um during the election process because we too radical, you know. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.400 Towards the end, when I think people begin to realize 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.319 that they needed voices like mine, yours and others, they 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.320 came around. But the establishment, if you will, of the 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:14.240 Democratic Party that's not like, that's not my crew. Those 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.200 people don't you know, I'm too radical. Matter of fact, 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.199 we got kicked out of a debate and they put 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.400 us and they put us on they kicked us out 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:26.880 and put us in a block because we screamed fire 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:34.280 pinout dragged us out a little bit. Pant Leo got 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.480 fired and the Blasio got his ass or for that, President, 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.920 you're here, you need to fire the cop in your 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.760 own city before you go try to be the leader 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.280 of the cops across the country. But anyway, that's a 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.280 whole different conversation. But I just don't understand why people 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.000 be on my path. Let me tell you what it is. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.480 It's a guy that was all types of crazy stuff 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:01.599 the videos. Brother, what your issue with me? He's like, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.040 you don't have it. You just called me, So I 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.800 kind a phone with him. He was like, oh my god, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.680 I can't believe it. Really on the phone, he said, 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.760 I can't believe you, like you're really here? Oh my bro, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.120 what what are you talking about? Swim? I'm never gonna 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:20.440 say anything about you, but sometimes, But what I'm just 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:24.280 trying to tell you is that is the original premise. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.520 This is the premence. We've seen other situations which we 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.640 won't talk about on air, as when you've seen people 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.600 that were in different positions that were talking about how 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.000 they was fans and they've seen you at VT Awards 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.000 and and you were supposed to be doing this with 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.479 me and all this people have, they would coome fanatics, 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.760 you know, they really they really want to be fans 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.720 and friends of you. They want you to just engage them, 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.880 so they get on your page just looking for any 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.520 It was a guy that's come my page every post 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.160 and I didn't understand him, and then I went to 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:02.120 his page. He actually was We've repostings that was positive 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.080 about me, and I'm like, this is the weirdest stuff. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.080 I think. I think a big part of it is 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.320 that people don't have anything else to do with their 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.320 time in their lives. They're sitting in their homes, they lonely, 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.080 they have no friends that tempt to tell them. Like 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.600 you know how when you go to an Instagram post 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.360 and you see the comments, like the preview of comments, 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.640 you can see your friend, the person you following made 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.160 a comment. There's a girlfriend that I have that she's 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:31.080 on everybody's comments, and because she's my friend, I contacted 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.000 her to say, I just want you to know that 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:37.360 you were in everybody's comments talking and I keep saying it, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.240 and you know what, she stopped because she was like dang, 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.520 I didn't realize, yes you on this one comment trying 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.040 to you and what she was doing was trying to 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.760 get noticed by celebrities, right, so she going into celebrity 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.320 pages and just be talking all the time. And it's 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.640 really it's a sickness. The Internet can turn into a sickness. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.880 And if you're not careful, even a person who is 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.120 stable in terms of you know, you got fan when 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:01.800 you got income, you got all of that, you can 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.160 get sucked into it in a way that it actually damages. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.240 You have to decompress you. It can damage, but it 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:12.600 can actually damage your brand, which brings us to the 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.960 branding expert that we have coming up. I'm so so 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.080 super super duper excited to be talking to a queen 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.120 somebody who is a trailblazer and just the leader in 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:29.600 the branding and social media influencers space. Um, you know, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.680 a marketing strategist and all those good things. You say, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.840 she's czar in the hip hop world from a business perspective. Yeah, 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.680 So we're gonna be talking to our dasis, the Karen 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.600 Cibol today. We're gonna get some jews from the CEO CEO. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.120 I just you know, I just in all of Karen 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.800 tool like she didn't probably remember the first time that 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.320 I've seen From the first time I've seen her, I 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.320 just watched her continue to just elevate and connect to herself. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.840 It's different, you know, like our being the gen I 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:05.639 would brand experts, the way she bonds, it's not just 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.920 the same thing. And that's especial bonds. Bond bonds with 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.119 you know what I'm saying. She call you and make 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.320 sure you are right. She you know, she got an 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.400 idea for you to take your ideas and she takes 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.639 it to the next level. So that's what the brand 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.320 experts is supposed to do. So we got we got 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.760 our own Karen sil I don't I have to give 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.560 some love to the bond in the family is actually 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:34.919 the man, the James Bond. His name is Look, you 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:40.520 listen to the names my guy man. I don't like 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.320 a lot of people with James my guy. So yeah, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.520 but was gonna be here with us and we're gonna 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.720 get some jewels from her. We're gonna listen to her 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.359 and understand what does she think about the climate of 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.919 what's going on in the Internet and these trolls and 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.600 these cloud chasers and kappers, and then in our activist 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.480 second then we're gonna be talking to the teacher Wideman 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.800 who is the sister of Jacob Blake. Every single episode 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.280 we're gonna try to talk to an activists that's on 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.280 the ground and somebody even a family remember, and just 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.239 continue to elevate voices. Black media is super important so 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.400 that our stories can be told properly in our people 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.080 can get the right narrative from the right places that 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:24.240 street politicians. And if we don't tell it before we 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.840 go to the next segment and have our special guests joint, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:33.920 we're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors. That's so. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.760 I am just super honored to be joined today by 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.840 a colleague, a home girl, and someone who I am 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.320 definitely so inspired by. Um. You know, she may not 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.919 know it, but I look up to and admire Karen Sybil. 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.720 I'm so happy to see you here, says thank you 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.280 so much for joining us, thank you so much for 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:01.040 having me, congratulations on the show. Thank you, and were like, 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.119 she's a fan, but I've always admired you, you know, 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.280 being in the industry and just seeing how you know, 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.800 what you've done, you know how there's knowing newing the 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.159 story the better story, to seeing you grind and the 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.080 way you just pretty much like you say that you 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.679 are a creator and a CEO, but I think you 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:26.480 actually create CEO. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. A medium, 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:31.760 a medium, mobil and branding expert. UM. I think that 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:34.480 anybody who does not know Karen Cibil needs to do 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.879 some work and also follow the tips of the day 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:43.000 to learn how to uh, you know, strategize on your 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.080 own career. And again, I think what my son says, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.520 it is so true that you, Karen, have been able 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.040 to sort of charge your own course. Like you know, 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.160 I don't know many people like Karen, Sybil. You definitely 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.159 stand out in your own state. So that's why we 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:03.280 wanted to talk to you today. Election was crazy, presidential elections. 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:08.280 Still dealing with the remnants of this election. UM. And 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.440 you know, one of the things I think we recognize 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.520 the most is how much social media plays a role 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.960 in everything that we do. Was certainly in the presidential election. UM. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.480 And you know, we just recently had a conversation with 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:29.040 the young sister kJ which she went viral. While speaking 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.199 before a police council. She was kind of like you know, 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:33.720 she was giving it to him. I don't know if 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.440 you saw the video. She was all over the internet 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:40.679 of course, and um, but now you know she's dealing 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:45.719 with intimidation from the police force and threats and other things. Uh, 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.000 you know, and that also comes along with going viral. 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.400 So it's such a you know, it's a situation where 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:53.640 it can be good, but it's a catch twenty two 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.240 because you always find yourself on the other end of 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:01.040 the sword sometimes. Uh. And so I just wanted to 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.520 kind of talk about thinking about this election, like what 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.560 is what what should be or should we not be 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.719 doing on social media with a situation like kJ. I 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:17.000 loved her utilizing her platform. Unfortunately, the backlash of you know, 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:21.000 police and officials, they're they're embarrassed, and you know, I 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.679 don't I don't think they thought, you know, a lot 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.679 of the times that our voice is gonna be so loud, 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.720 and they didn't think that that was gonna be so 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.760 social and prominent. But I'm glad that she was able 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.080 to utilize her platform like that because that's how we 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.159 find out what's happening in certain communities, and that's what 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.600 I love about, you know, social justice and people who 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.959 are utilizing their platforms in these ways because unfortunately CNN 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.840 and Fox aren't telling us about our community. It has 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:50.439 to be us telling each other. You know, how you 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.639 vote and your organization utilize and tell us what's going on, 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.880 how we can help, what we can do. And it's 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.439 great that there are people on the ground. So with 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:03.240 that situation, I wouldn't tell her to do anything different. 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.720 It's it's unfortunately when you use that your platform in 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.560 that way where you know they you you eventually have 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.080 a target on your back. But use your platform, and 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:14.959 that's what it's there for to do that. And if 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.320 it's something that you really love and it's something you 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.440 really want your tomdiity to know about. You know, I'm 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.040 a big believer in the power of the tongue. So 0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.159 when I saw on Twitter and she was like, you know, 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:28.280 they're trying to kill me, I'm like, listen, let's figure 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.520 out a way. Hope you know, she gets with her 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.359 team to figure out a way too, to help with 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.960 that situation, to make sure that she is protected. But 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.920 let's not speak this into fruition that something's gonna happen 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:43.639 to you. Um, you know, you've been so successful that 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:48.119 using utilize the social media. Have an artist utilize social media? 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.879 You know, there's there's such things as tolling right there, 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.280 you know. And I see so many artists and just 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.840 different individuals who just utilize social media and I don't 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.840 think they even think about what they say. I just 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.879 think they just tried to give reaction and it actually works. 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.639 You know, what do you what do you say about 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:11.240 that patrolling versus actually really utilizing social media for something 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.479 that's you're building a brand or what is the difference 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.320 between trolling and just building a brain? Building? Building a 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.840 brand is you're trying to create, You're trying to create 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.960 a platform and a resource to help other people. Trolling 0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:30.119 is somebody who is for self, who wants who's ego driven, 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.040 who wants popularity, and who's trying to make a moment 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.800 about themselves. So when I see somebody like Little Pump, 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.440 you're trolling. You want to to care about your music, 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.280 you want to make the selection about you. I don't 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:42.760 give a funk about you because it's not about you. 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:46.760 Especially when children on cages, people l g B, t 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.920 q I A plus are having their rights taken away. 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.640 You are the government and officials are trying to are 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.920 trying to tell us how how we're supposed to utilize 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.879 our ovaries. These are the conversations that matter, not you 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.720 you trying to get back onto iTunes, because the last 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:04.280 time we cared about you was when you did a 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.880 video with Kanye So those type of trolling is that 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:11.520 is that's self serving, that's ego driven, and that has 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.160 nothing to do with trying to create a community, trying 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.879 to have purpose or anything else. That's just a moment. 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:20.399 If I was a young person talking to you, I 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.320 would say, well, I try to do the right thing 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.440 on social media, and I have two hundred followers, but 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:30.600 the trolls seem to have thousands of people who follow 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.119 them and want to see that content. So how am 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.879 I going to be able to create the same interest 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.720 but using things that are not even just socially conscious, 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.800 but just not being an idiot on the on the ground, 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:47.119 you know. But it's like it's with those type of situations, 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.440 how long those followers aren't engaged with you because they 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:54.880 really like you or like they're really interested. It's just 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.399 your entertainment for the moment. They don't care what happens 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.479 to you after this there's no real substance there. And 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.200 I always utilize this quote where I say, never step 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.240 over a dollar to pick up a nickel, and that 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.600 dollars your your integrity and just your moral compass and 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.000 things that are your values. You know. It's just like 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.159 that's more important than a million followers. I'd rather have 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.679 a thousand authentic followers who will engage with me, who 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.479 will actually, you know, um, if I dropped something, purchase it, 0:25:25.760 --> 0:25:28.040 you know, really support me. We see it now there 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.760 are people who got millions of followers and they can't 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.959 even crack the top ten on the Billboard charts. And 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.600 I think that's what one of the things I've been 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.360 warned about. You just watching how you were able to see, like, 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.520 you know, our pity, just seeing that he was one 0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:46.280 of those artists who was taking along run that wasn't 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.320 gonna compromise, and you utilize your skills it and you 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.679 took what he had in the way I watch y'all build. 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.159 You know, I sit and watch people don't really realize. 0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:59.960 When I watched y'all considered build from step by step, 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.320 the same thing you deal with you built. It's it's 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.639 longevity is the conversation and things people should strive for. 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.399 When I look at like Nipsey and y G, you know, 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.600 they're built from a different clause. They understand street codes 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.159 and they have ethics, and then they come from you know, 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:21.919 these are real upstanding black men who just understand and 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.960 have morals. And it's just like, I'm not about to 0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:26.520 be on this internet and be goofy. You know. It's 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:29.400 like with even with nip there would be times where 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.520 like website shold him and he's like, Yo, I'm a 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.520 smack the ships out of you when I see you. 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:37.720 You would find the writer and be like, I'm gonna 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.160 smack ship out of you and they'd like, yo, it's 0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.600 just the post and he'd be like, no, that's not 0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.879 how it works. I don't like, I'm a man. I 0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.320 am a man on this Internet and off this Internet, 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:50.640 So you're not gonna play with me in that manner. 0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:52.880 So that's a lot that a lot of the time 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.800 is allowed. Now. You know, certain people don't have guidance 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.040 and they're so driven by fame. But it's like once 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.800 you have it, what keeps you there? What what continues 0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.080 to make you stay in that place? Is just like Okay, 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.199 you troll to get your way here, but what's the 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.640 substance behind it? Why are these people following you? Why 0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.119 should they engage with you? Nothing comes from it, and 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.560 eventually it's gonna joins the law. The thing is, people 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:18.919 think followers are fans. Know, followers are not your fans, 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.560 and they're not your consumers. Yet they follow you because 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:25.159 it's free, right, and sometimes their trolls too on your page, 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:28.000 like you've got a bunch of trolls exactly. So it's 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.320 like you have to figure out a way to turn 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:35.520 those followers into um to people who are engaging, turn 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:41.160 turn that engagement into your fans, your fans into consumers. 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:45.560 So those steps a lot of a lot of people 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.760 don't take. They just be like, I want to be 0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.080 a troll, I want a certain amount of followers, and 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.520 they feel like that's all that's needed. But that's not 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.280 going to keep you to that. That's not gonna keep 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.520 you in in the kingdom. It's gonna have you right 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.479 back in the valley. Let me ask you this question. 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.359 And by the way, you dropping gems that I hope 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.720 a lot of young folks listen to because they are 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.120 caught up in the numbers, and the numbers, as you said, 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:14.240 are not always real. But I had a situation during 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:19.639 the election cycle where an elderly person who I'm friends 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:24.800 with with sharing fake news, And I'm wondering, what are 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.560 you saying to your artists and other people that you're 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:32.000 closely aligned with about how they should go about research 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:36.040 and information before sharing and posting stuff, because everybody's just 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.400 sharing anything. Meanwhile, some of it is coming from snopes 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:43.760 dot com and Paul's mama did it dot net? You know, 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.000 and and it's it's it's misinformation that's getting out there 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:51.720 that actually influences things like an election. It's honestly having 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.960 conversations with people, and it's just like listener's information you're 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.560 spreading is inaccurate. On Facebook, it got to a point 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.680 on my personal Facebook, I had to delete and remove 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.120 people that I was friends with from high school, who 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.760 I engage with, and a lot of the propaganda they 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.480 were sharing, I'm like, listen, this is inaccurate. First I 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.880 would tell them, you know, this is a bit inaccurate. Um, 0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:16.840 then they still continue to share it and I have 0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.280 to remove myself from that situation because I don't want 0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.760 to keep seeing it, and it's like you can engage 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.000 and have the conversation and tell them and presented to them. 0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.320 But sometimes people now are in this space of a 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:34.480 conspiracy theory sounds better than the truth. It's okay to, 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.600 you know, check your ego and say, you know what, 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.960 I'm not an expert in this in this space, let 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.800 me go to an expert and ask is this true? 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.600 Does this makes sense? Can I borrow your ear and 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:50.400 get an understanding. It's okay to to to be humble 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.800 or to ask for advice and and to understand that. 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.320 But I just really hope people understand that the same 0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.920 way we respect the doctors and the loyals, lawyer respect 0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.280 you know, people in this political climate who are fighting 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.440 for us, who are doing certain things. I'm happy, you know, 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:11.080 I didn't protest. I made a sign, but again it 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.000 doesn't put me to the same level as you, and 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.840 people gotta understand and respect that too. I want to 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.920 ask you this last thing and then let you go. 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.760 This idea of cloud chasing, because I hear people tell 0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.960 me I'm cloud chasing chasing sometimes and I'm like, okay, 0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.600 I am the cloud. But whatever you know and the chase, 0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:32.920 you know, so I'm just trying to figure out what 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.240 is the balance with this idea of cloud chasing. Isn't 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.960 that something that everybody has a little bit of it 0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.280 or is it just something that people throw around to 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:46.160 be able to avoid dealing with whatever the real issue 0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.520 is that's being discussed, because that's what I usually hear 0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:53.160 is that if I come out and speak against um, 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.880 you know, a product, a brand, then they're like, oh, 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.200 you just cloud chasing and trying to get trying to 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:02.480 get acknowledge. Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna use this 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.160 as a reference when it comes to both of you. 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.240 There's no cloud chasing. You've been doing this for so 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.800 long and setting examples, whether people understand it or not, 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:16.160 whether you were making a million dollars or or not, 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:18.480 or whatever the case may be. You're doing this because 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.280 you care about our people, and this is a known fact. 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.600 You're really in the streets handling stuff, literally moved, you know, 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.880 to an area to make sure that I need to 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.400 protest and be there because I don't want to be 0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.560 getting off a bus a plane. I need the people 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.320 to know I am on the ground and I'm here 0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:36.720 for you, and this is not even you telling me this, 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.600 it's me witnessing it and seeing all the stuff you're 0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.800 doing on social media with your team. Beyonce acknowledges you. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.920 You know why, because she sees the work you're doing. 0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:46.600 You didn't go to the You didn't go to the 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.840 booth and say, Yo, drop me in this six team quick. 0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.920 You didn't ask for that because you have people engaged 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:56.120 and who want to hit you, and it's just like, Yo, 0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:58.320 what's going on. I want to be a part of 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.200 what you're doing. The thing that works for you is 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.760 you're not running to people. They're coming to you because 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.640 they see the work that you're doing is very authentic 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.320 and it's you. That's what separates you from other people 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.640 who are out here cloud chasing because all of that 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.200 is very self serving that it's driven by ego. You 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.920 are driven by love and purpose and change and progression 0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.120 for the community. Those two don't add up. So whoever 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:23.960 is doing that, you might want to send them back 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.440 to school because obviously they don't know how to add 0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:31.479 we appreciate you school. Yeah, that was a whole That 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:36.520 was a whole lecture, right, Yes, y'all get the messages 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:45.680 y'all can send them my way. We want to appreciate. Yeah, 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.480 the work that you do is phenomenon. I've just I've 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.520 been a signing just watching you. Any artists that works 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.960 with you can attest to where you career. I busily 0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.440 see that. So I just want to celebrate you. And 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:05.080 I was right now, thank you you're no longer behind 0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:13.600 the scenes. You are they want to make something of its. Appreciate, right, 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.520 we said, thank you for taking the time with us. 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:25.000 Appreciate anytime we're gonna need you, We're gonna need you 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:29.840 to help us without strategy. I'm here. I'm here. You 0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.960 know we're talking yesterday, so I'm here when you guys 0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:40.000 are right. All right, that was pretty cool. I mean, 0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:44.640 obviously Karen has a wealth of knowledge. You know, she's 0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.080 a legend in her own right. We know what she's done. 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.200 But it's, you know, conversation we always sort of come 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:54.200 back to this idea that black women. It's like, you know, 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.240 what do you do? Are you really qualified for the 0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:00.320 job that you had? But we know that you know, 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.560 she's really an incredible voice, that she also has a 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:04.680 lot of character. Because you know, when you meet Karen, 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.640 if you don't really know her She's not going to 0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:11.600 just be super duper friendly, which I understand because there 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.600 is so much negative energy out here. But as you 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.880 get to know her, you know that she's willing to 0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.200 help im and she's been supportive about organization until freedom, 0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.040 uh you know, steps right in and it's always super 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.440 strategic in her thinking. And so I love her Definitely. 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.600 She's a dope personality when she's when she's done the 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:33.879 contributions that she has to hip hop, it's not even known, 0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:36.520 but you know she's been behind the scenes. But now, 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.480 like you said, she is the scene. So that was 0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.120 definitely that we could have talked to her about. Because 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.560 branding in itself is something that she does. And how 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:49.600 she's able to align brands with social good with artists 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.920 and entertainers and athletes, that's such a it's a skill 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:56.240 like everyone doesn't have it. And how she is able 0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:01.319 to do it while allowing the personality, if you will, 0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:05.560 to be authentic is a whole other conversation. So we've 0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:07.080 got to invite her to come back. How is she 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:11.040 gonna do it for us and talk to our sistem 0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:16.680 but of course our super branding expert, LaToya LaToya Bond 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:22.600 who who is that LaToya Bond? Who is lat my manager. 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:27.319 Toya Bond is the manager extraordinaire. She's the mama, she's 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.560 the big sister. She runs the show. LaToya Bond Is, 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.120 She's a queen and we love her to death. I'm so, 0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:37.960 you know, happy that we continue to do this segment 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.040 dealing with activists in our community, people who are on 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.280 the ground across this country. And today we're being joined 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:49.319 by a young woman who is she saw to serve 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.080 as dual roles. She became an activist with First of all, 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.000 we're gonna talk about it, but I'm sure it was 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.760 already in her spirit, so she wasn't on the ground. 0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.399 She should have been, because you know, you can hear 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:04.680 it in the passion that she speaks with. But she 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:10.080 certainly got thrust into the limelight, unfortunately as a victim 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.640 of a family member of a victim of police brutality, 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.239 and that is Jacob Blake who was shot in the 0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:21.200 back by police officers just a few months ago. He 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.360 thank god, he lives. Um he was paralyzed, but he is, 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:30.560 he is not um deceased. And unfortunately, too many times 0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:34.319 the hashtag is that this person is no longer with us, 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.399 and that didn't happen in this situation. UH. And so 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.319 it's really good to be joined by this young woman 0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.680 who is now using her voice not just to talk 0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:46.520 about her brother, but also to shed light on other 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.000 families and other situations that have happened across the country 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.600 and things that are happening in her local community. So 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:57.160 I'm so excited to have the teacher Widman to join 0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.760 us again, the sister of Jacob Blake, who had lots 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.359 to say. And I know because I talked on her 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.200 on a regular basis. The teacher, thank you so much 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:10.839 for being with us on street politicians doing today. Hey, 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:16.520 hey my son, Hey Tamika, thanks for having me. UM. 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.799 I do want to get any opportunity I can to 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:24.839 UM make my voice heard. But I definitely was into 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:29.680 activism way before my brother was shot. UM. Actually my 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:38.200 family caused me a teacher X or my next junior. UM, 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.480 I've been protesting for a long time. I did a 0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:45.120 black uh a Black Lives Matter of protests in Evanston 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:48.040 some years back. I had my free double Dutch class 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.480 at Falls Park District in North Chicago. UM. I was 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.359 doing gardens with the kids on my block, we would 0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.880 do community clean up where we would just go and 0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.000 take all the trash. And I live in a neighbor 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.239 hood that we can call, I guess the hood. I 0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.680 just was doing my own little projects. Anything I could 0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:07.719 do to get my hands and something to benefit my 0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:11.320 community and the children, the youth in my community. That's whatever. 0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.440 That's what I was doing. But that's so important, right 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.799 because some people think that being an activist or being 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.239 an organizer means that you have to be on the 0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:25.040 front line marching and protesting and you know, being arrested 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.399 or or or committing acts of simple disobedience in order 0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:32.200 to get your voice heard. We don't often consider what 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.680 it looks like to take care of your community, and 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:39.400 how activism also lies in the idea that we have 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.440 to be internal about our fight just as much as 0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:46.760 we are external. Yeah, definitely, And a lot of people 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.520 forget about that part. Um. They show up to the 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.040 protests and they you know, or they're writing, they're doing 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.160 whatever they're doing, and then whatever, whenever they get back 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.840 home and everything settles down, they kind of like forgetting. 0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:03.120 They go back to their regular life. And before my 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:06.680 brother was shot, it was always something on the forefront 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.560 of my mind, and I felt very compelled to do something. 0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.520 I just didn't know what exactly I could do or 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:16.680 I should be doing, and so UM, I just you know, 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.080 put myself in different positions to serve. Actually, how I 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.360 started doing the Double Dust program, I was serving the 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:27.279 elderly people at a park opening in North Chicago, and Um, 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.480 the treasurer of North Chicago walked up to me and 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.880 he was like, who are you? And I was like, 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:34.960 I'm just so a ticture. Um. He's like, what do 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.799 you do. I'm like, I'm I'm a barber. He was like, 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.480 I need somebody to do a free program at my 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.160 park district. I was like, well, I'll do it, but 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.800 if I do it, I need a favor from you too. 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.760 And he was like, what said? I said, I need 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.640 funds to do a free Black history class in North 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:56.000 Chicago for the kids. I'm all with, you know, activities, 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.920 physical activities, but these kids need to learn their educate 0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:02.560 their history. Um and he and he was like Okay, 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.920 we gotta deal. So that's how I ended up starting 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:08.960 the Double Dutch class at Frost Park. And I thought 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.120 Double Dutch was a great idea because we used to 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:14.000 back in the day. You ride around in a black 0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.799 neighborhood in the nineties and the eighties, everybody was playing 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:21.600 double dutch. You know, these kids nowadays, they're they're on 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.399 their cell phones, uh sending pictures to boys and stuff. 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.680 They're so hooked up in that stuff. They don't even 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.960 go outside and really enjoy being a kid anymore. So 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.480 I was like, we gotta bring that old school stuff back, 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.600 and you know, and I think double Dutch was a 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:41.200 great way to do that. It sounds to me what 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.600 I'm hearing, and after meeting your father, Jacob Blake Senior 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:49.000 or I think it's an incredible voice, strong, passionate group 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.879 of people you are. And I hear you talking about 0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:56.080 your community work, cleaning up the community, working with young people, 0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.359 double dutch, being an activist in your own right, And 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.120 then I see what your brother was doing that day, 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:07.759 going to deescalate a situation that took place in our community. 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:11.640 That's exactly what we ask our men, uh and just 0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.719 people in the community in general to do. Here there's 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.880 a problem, step in and try your best to to 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.400 to stop it from becoming a bigger problem. And and 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.440 in turn, the way he was thanked, if you will, 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.400 by the police and the authorities was not only to 0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.560 shoot him and almost kill him, but then to try 0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.040 to criminalize and afterwards. Yeah, and we definitely are calling 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:37.080 for black people to hold their self accountable for our communities. 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:40.200 We have to police our own communities. We have to 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.520 run for UM a seat in our own cities and 0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:47.040 UM and states. We have to get out and vote 0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:50.400 for these people that run. We have to represent ourselves. 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:52.880 We have to look out for our own children. We 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.520 have to look out for our own dollars. We have 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.640 to spend our money in our communities, and we have 0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.279 to stop letting our money leave our community for its 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.640 circles even one time in our community. So we definitely 0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.880 we can sit and talk to you all day. We're 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.520 gonna have you to come back. Thank you so much 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:13.920 for being with us today. We appreciate your voice. You 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.120 know what you're doing, and you have a home at 0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:18.960 Street Politicians, anytime you want to come back to give 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.080 us an upding on what you're doing in the local 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.719 community and nationally. Because you said you're going on the 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.160 robot until freedoms. Yes, I'm waiting for you to call 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:30.279 me to do my internship or whatever. I gotta back 0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:38.839 getting started. Did I see my love that's my guy. Yeah, 0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.719 And you know, our prayers and everything is yours. So 0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:44.200 we appreciate. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:49.239 Love you guys. Start, thank you, thank you. Before we 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.359 go to the next segment, we're gonna take a quick 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:56.560 break for our sponsors. I love her. I mean, you know, 0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.040 she's super. Listen, she was getting ready to fight me 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.080 in New York. I don't think she was the other 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.040 you know, but even she like and I don't mean 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.640 in a negative way. I think of a teacher is amazing. 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.520 But she had a real passive, passionate speech and if 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.239 you listen to her, she's deep, like super deep. But 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.600 she was, you know, gonna give her I have a 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.240 dream speech during the march where we only a rallied, 0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.000 we only had a little bit of time. So glad 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.319 that we were able to give her an opportunity. It 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.040 makes sense now to learn that she's actually a poet. 0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:31.800 It's so much about these families that we come into 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:36.040 contact with as a result of um, you know, some tragedy, 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.800 and then you find out about the greatness of black 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.600 folks all over the place, and and it's sad that 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.080 that's how we're being connected and our family just continues 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.840 to grow. You think about Sabrina Fulton, you think about 0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:52.840 Constance Malcolm, the mother of Ramley Graham. To make a Palmer, 0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:56.840 it's just too many days when car's too many names, 0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.560 Shawn Bell's family and now the Blake family mean Jacob 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.000 Blake srs. As you said, he's such a dope guy. 0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.719 Um And I'm happy that we're able to provide a 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.919 teacher with the platform and we got to do more 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.560 with her. Definitely, definitely she's going. So you don't get it. 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:14.839 I don't get it. You never get anything. That's why 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.600 I wait, That's why I have a segment called I 0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:19.040 don't get I don't get it. So I just want 0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:22.319 to know this. What I don't get is why do 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:27.880 dudes that really don't have money flash money on instant? 0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:30.880 Dudes that really don't have How do you know they 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:38.480 don't have money? Because give you example, we have Adrian Brouna. Adrian, 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:41.960 I mean, well, listen, Adrian Brouna has a lawsuit, right 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.680 he doesn't pay the lawsuit, the lawyer access him. What 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.480 happened to the money that you had on Instagram. I've 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.680 seen all the money, he said, my friends, some of 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.680 my friends sent it to me, somebody linked to him. Now, 0:44:56.239 --> 0:45:01.000 if you have all this money, paid lawsuit. Yeah. But 0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:02.760 if you don't have the money, don't pay the lawsuit. 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.600 They don't flows like it's not even common sense because 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.080 you put you put Instagram. This is what I'm trying 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.840 to say. The Instagram is so dangerous. You put yourself 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:14.720 in so much jeopardy with the law, with the thieves, 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:18.040 with the stick up kids. Everybody is coming for you. 0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:20.560 Now you got you don't put money on Instagram that 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:25.160 even if you do got it, you're target just money 0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.520 as in cash. Are you talking about people? Because there's 0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:31.319 there's a lot of flaunting that goes on on the 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:35.560 internet in general, cars, clothes, all that, and then you 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.200 find out people don't even own the house that they're 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:45.960 it's called capping, or as Karen Sibyl says, it is 0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:50.480 cloud chasing self servant. It's about Yeah, man, I just 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.040 really don't get it. I don't think that people are 0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.960 taking the time to even think, like, if you if 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.040 people are hungry, you show you got Instagram and people 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.800 most people don't got money and you're putting wads of money. 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:08.480 Ten you count on dollars, you make yourself a talking Now. 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.640 I guess some people see it as motivations. Some people 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.560 see it as something else. But when somebody don't got nothing, 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.799 they're gonna try to take it from you. You're saying, 0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.319 you put yourself in home's way. I just I really 0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:21.960 don't get it. And I've never been a person to 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.480 do It's people that do it, and not saying everybody's 0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.680 bad to do it, but I personally don't get it 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.760 because I've never seen how it really benefited anybody. Everybody 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.480 that I've seen do it have got theselves in situations, 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:36.400 somebody trying to rob them, somebody trying to extort. You know, 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.759 dudes is doing it. They're selling drugs and and and 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:41.640 the fans. It's not going only dog because they didn't 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:43.919 see you put you don't mean times, dudes, I knew 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:46.320 it was in the streets hustling, because you know, I'm 0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:50.040 still privy to knowledge in the streets. You know, dudes, 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:51.920 I knew it was in the streets doing wrong. And 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:55.480 I see them, I'm saying I knew I was. You know, 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.480 I just even though you're not in the streets. You 0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.399 still got your into the streets. You know what I'm saying. 0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.160 So well, I'm trying to talk them out the streets. 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.160 I know they're still in the streets, so I go 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:07.960 to the Instagram page. I mean, listen, listen, listen, the 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:10.960 gangster will woke it. It is so at the end 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.000 of the day, I know you in the street, you 0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.279 know you in the streets doing and you're putting a 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.520 hundred thousand hours on instant I got the nerves. Ain't 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:22.520 got the nerve to say, why comes? That's actually who 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.799 told on you? You told on you people wearing this 0:47:26.880 --> 0:47:30.399 stuff that they purchased in through a scam. And then 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.040 when you ask them like, well how did you get that? 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.759 I can't talk about that. You told everybody on the 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.360 internet about it, so obviously you can talk about it 0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:41.319 because everybody knows it, and the people you scamp they 0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:43.479 know it too. But I don't get that one either. 0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:47.600 But I will say that unfortunately, you know, I have 0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:53.040 to bring it to a social justice sort of conversation 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:59.359 that poverty has created this sense of um just it's 0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:02.680 like it's like a drought, like people are hungry people 0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.000 and they want to experience. They want to be seen 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:13.640 in a sexy, swab positive light. So they go on 0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:16.440 the Graham, which is the only place that most people 0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.839 even pay attention to. The Gram is not real life. 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.520 It's not your real life. People. People are trying to 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:27.920 live their whole life based on the best sixty seconds 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:31.440 and somebody else. Just imagine that they're looking at sixty 0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:33.399 seconds of somebody's life and they said, you know what, 0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.279 that's how I need my whole life to be their life. 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.160 Ain't even like that. Don't get caught up in the Graham. 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.200 Don't get caught up in the cloud chase, and don't 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:43.640 get caught up in the fake money and the money 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:47.480 that they do involved in their friends because it's so oversatural. 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:54.640 But that's what is it? What is it faking? That's 0:48:54.640 --> 0:49:02.359 what it's called. That's the old. Well it's good, you know, 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.080 I don't know this. This conversation today is really good 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:07.480 because and I want to like clip pieces of it 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:09.600 and make sure that some of the young people, and 0:49:09.640 --> 0:49:11.319 I live, some of the young people that I know, 0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.560 get an opportunity to hear from somebody like Karen said, 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:18.040 who was really breaking down the difference between being a 0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:22.520 troll self serving and being an actual brand and what 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:28.520 it takes to be able to different or else you'll 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.880 be running around be a one hit wonder. And I 0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.000 thought it was a real, real good episode of Street 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:38.400 Politicians with black effect also being carried by I Woman TV. 0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.560 You know cat Trick, our heart, uh and soul of 0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:47.000 the Street Politicians brand. Yes, and we appreciate everybody for 0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:51.720 tuning in once again, thank you for tuning into Street Politicians. 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:56.200 We don't always agree. We haven't. We didn't do too bad. 0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.279 I might not. We might not always be right. You 0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:02.000 might not always right. I might. That's what I said, 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:04.560 we because I'm usually what I using. You might not 0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.200 always be right. We might not always be wrong, but 0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:12.960 we always are going to be authentic. That's not we 0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:13.480 own it.