Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, this is the Gecko guy.
Speaker 2: No fucking way, what is your name?
Speaker 1: I'm not that would be disgusting, Sammy. What's going on?
Speaker 1: What's up? Sammy? Did I catch you in the middle
Speaker 1: of something? Or am I? Am I bothering you?
Speaker 2: Currently? I am in the car with my parents, but
Speaker 2: I can talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in the car with your parents. Are you
Speaker 1: in the back seat?
Speaker 2: I am, but I feel as though they already know
Speaker 2: anything that I would talk about. So so, yeah, what's up.
Speaker 2: I'm honestly just shocked. That was the first thing I
Speaker 2: texted you. I'm honestly just shocked that you called me.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you? Where is the car going? Or
Speaker 1: what are you going to ride somewhere?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We're actually at the beach right now, little family vacation.
Speaker 1: Oh very nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of horrible timing, but I'm just gonna go
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 3: So all right, listen, I mean you sent me a text,
Speaker 3: uh huh, and you said, Hi, Gek, my name is
Speaker 3: Sam and I want to talk about how a PCP
Speaker 3: trip helped me turn my life around.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, So, uh tell.
Speaker 3: Me about PCP because all I've ever heard about PCP
Speaker 3: is that it makes people kill people and.
Speaker 1: Bite their faces off. I might be convinced I might
Speaker 1: be confusing with bath salts, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm not PCP expert by any sense. I've only done
Speaker 2: it this one time. And sorry, my brother's in the
Speaker 2: car with me too. But yeah, so I I you know,
Speaker 2: I had been into the drug world for a good
Speaker 2: bit and I ended up essentially trying to overdose on PCP,
Speaker 2: and it just made me realize everything, all the harm
Speaker 2: that I have been causing to myself, my family, my
Speaker 2: loved ones, you know. And then it just sort of
Speaker 2: made me realize what I need to be doing differently,
Speaker 2: I guess, And I realized that PCP, like you said before,
Speaker 2: has a lot of the opposite effects on people. For
Speaker 2: whatever reason. In me, it just sort of reset my
Speaker 2: brain and reconnected wires that had been disconnected, and it
Speaker 2: made it ultimately, it made me want to get sober.
Speaker 2: I put myself in rehab and I'm three years sober now.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I wouldn't say it's entirely to the PCP, but
Speaker 2: I would say that that had had a decent effect,
Speaker 2: decent positive effect, not saying that that I'll have that
Speaker 2: effect on everyone. But of course.
Speaker 3: So you didn't start with PCP. It was along the
Speaker 3: road in your drug journey. Where What did you start
Speaker 3: with in your drug journey?
Speaker 2: This is funny because I'm just in the car with
Speaker 2: my parents listening. But I started with with coke and
Speaker 2: then very quickly divulged into I went I pretty much
Speaker 2: speed ran uh drug addiction. Not as fast as you
Speaker 2: can essentially, but I I've done pretty much everything.
Speaker 1: Where where did you go after coke?
Speaker 2: My parents just told me I can speak freakly. So
Speaker 2: after coke, I went into UH. It started from coke,
Speaker 2: it went into UH per thirties, also known as fentanyl,
Speaker 2: but I didn't know at the time, and I was
Speaker 2: smoking those on aluminum foil. And then I got into
Speaker 2: mess heroin, I did, I did crack at one point, LSD, molly,
Speaker 2: pretty much everything.
Speaker 1: Wow, where were you getting all of this stuff from?
Speaker 5: Ye?
Speaker 1: So not because I want to hook.
Speaker 2: Up, Yeah, you want to plug. Well, I started off
Speaker 2: really like in the complete opposite world. I was like
Speaker 2: a band nerd. You know, I was very innocent. And
Speaker 2: then I started dating a guy who's in the drug scene,
Speaker 2: and he was actually a coke dealer, so he had
Speaker 2: a lot of references, I guess you could say, and
Speaker 2: a lot of money and a lot of access, and
Speaker 2: so I was just kind of all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I was in this world where I was getting a
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff for free, and I wasn't even I
Speaker 2: wasn't really capable at the time of saying no. So
Speaker 2: I just kind of got enveloped into this world where
Speaker 2: it was all this free drugs and no sense of
Speaker 2: who I was, and it just kind of escalated from there.
Speaker 1: How long did you date this guy for?
Speaker 2: I think it was a total maybe six eight months.
Speaker 2: It was a very intense time period, though, like I
Speaker 2: would say, like I was staying over at his house
Speaker 2: a lot, it felt much longer than six eight months.
Speaker 1: How did you meet him through?
Speaker 2: Ironically enough, through my previous boyfriend at the time, and
Speaker 2: we were friends, like the three of us, and just
Speaker 2: some shit happened and I ended up being kind of
Speaker 2: a dickhead and leaving him for his friend.
Speaker 3: So so you're with him for eight months, and that
Speaker 3: relationship is kind of what catalyzed all the drug.
Speaker 2: Addiction essentially, I would say, I don't know if that
Speaker 2: was the exact catalyst. I think there were a lot
Speaker 2: of other factors that led to this sort of switch.
Speaker 2: Family issues, you know, friend issues, just sort of my
Speaker 2: whole Also, COVID had just sort of happened around the
Speaker 2: same time, my whole world sort of imploded, and I
Speaker 2: felt as though there was really nothing else to turn too,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how old are you at the time at the.
Speaker 2: Time, I believe I was seventeen currently, So you were
Speaker 2: still in.
Speaker 1: High school when you were doing all that drugs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was my senior year.
Speaker 3: And did you have a career plan at the time.
Speaker 3: Did you have like a thing you wanted to do
Speaker 3: after high school that you were either neglecting or that
Speaker 3: you were doing it concurrently with the drugs.
Speaker 4: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there was really anything specific in mind.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I really had a direct career path.
Speaker 2: I had always been really big into I had always
Speaker 2: really been big into like band. I think band was
Speaker 2: the big central say, my stepdad was the band director.
Speaker 2: Like band was just sort of like the center of
Speaker 2: my family in a way. So it had sort of
Speaker 2: been pushed on to me that I would just go
Speaker 2: into music.
Speaker 6: I guess.
Speaker 1: And how was your relationship with your family at the time.
Speaker 2: At the time, honestly awful. I had just moved out
Speaker 2: of my mom's house and like completely cut ties with her,
Speaker 2: moved into my dad's full time. All of my friends
Speaker 2: were a year older, so they had all graduated at
Speaker 2: that point. Everything was pretty rough, honestly. Oh, and my
Speaker 2: mom had just like read my diary. I think that
Speaker 2: was somewhat a catalyst, big breach of privacy. You know,
Speaker 2: I know that sounds like such like like first world problems.
Speaker 2: You know, oh my mom read my diary or whatever, But.
Speaker 3: Well it's it's not that it sounds like first world problems,
Speaker 3: but it is very funny in this context as you're
Speaker 3: talking about all these personal things while she's in the
Speaker 3: car with you.
Speaker 2: I'm currently walking to the beach right now. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I've been pretty straightforward with her.
Speaker 2: That's how I have a relationship with her.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: So are you still in the car with them right now?
Speaker 2: No, no, sir, I'm walking to the beach on my
Speaker 2: own self.
Speaker 3: But you're so you're cool enough with them. But so
Speaker 3: you're cool enough with them now that they know about
Speaker 3: all this. You gave your laundry list of drugs in
Speaker 3: front of them, like they know everything. Were they supportive
Speaker 3: of you during that time? Like were they helping you out.
Speaker 2: During that time? No, I was not in contact with
Speaker 2: them other than my dad, my parents, and Star divorced.
Speaker 2: I was not in contact with them during that time.
Speaker 2: But I think once I got clean and once I
Speaker 2: got out of rehab, then I think they were just
Speaker 2: more so happy that I was alive than anything else
Speaker 2: and so, and they weren't the best for me either,
Speaker 2: So I think it my drug use almost made it
Speaker 2: even in a way, like we had both done bad things,
Speaker 2: so we just kind of chose to forgive each other,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense.
Speaker 3: So for those three years that you were on your
Speaker 3: drug venders, what were you doing?
Speaker 1: Were you just living at home?
Speaker 2: Partially? I was either living at my dad's house it's
Speaker 2: just me and my dad. Or I was also in
Speaker 2: and out of rehabs. I've been to maybe four total.
Speaker 2: At first, so I'm in Virginia, but I went to
Speaker 2: my first rehab was in Mississippi, and then I went
Speaker 2: to California from there, and then I relapsed and then
Speaker 2: uh later on, I ended up going to rehabit Maryland
Speaker 2: and then back in Virginia. It's been a journey for sure.
Speaker 3: What was the craziest thing you saw or experienced at
Speaker 3: any of these rehabs?
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean, gosh, I mean besides like the sex
Speaker 2: and drug use in the rehabs, I don't, I mean
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of crazy shit. Especially I
Speaker 2: was freshly eighteen, fresh out of high school. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, here's a story in Mississippi. My friends and
Speaker 2: I somehow, uh some someone had to connect to a
Speaker 2: plug and they got them to like put fentanyl under
Speaker 2: the soles of shoes, and then they got their plug
Speaker 2: to ship the box of shoes to the rehab and
Speaker 2: since they were under the soles, we were just like
Speaker 2: doing vent in the rehab. But I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: people were just like you know, there were like horse
Speaker 2: therapy centers, you know, like with like equine therapy or whatever,
Speaker 2: and people would go and hook up in the in
Speaker 2: the bathroom stalls, in the equine barns.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it smelled horrible.
Speaker 2: Oh it was. I was one of those people.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, super romantic, you know.
Speaker 1: You think about it, but you had a rehab fling?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe a couple under my belt.
Speaker 1: What's a rehab fling? What's a rehab fling.
Speaker 2: Like, well, they called it fratenizing by the people who
Speaker 2: run the rehab, Like they would always say no fratenizing.
Speaker 2: I'd say they're pretty pretty awful overall. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: both in just terrible places, Like we're spots in your life.
Speaker 2: You're just looking for human connection in any way you
Speaker 2: can get it. I think there's a lot of desperation
Speaker 2: in places like that, and you get a bunch of
Speaker 2: desperate people together and they're gonna fuck.
Speaker 6: I mean, but I don't go ahead, No, you go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just gonna say, I do look back,
Speaker 2: like sometimes I wish I could go three years clean now,
Speaker 2: and sometimes I wish I could go back to rehab
Speaker 2: just for the camaraderie of it all.
Speaker 3: I was going, you know, it's funny, I was thinking it.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to say it, but well, it's funny
Speaker 3: because it once you're out of high school and college,
Speaker 3: there are not a lot of I guess work if
Speaker 3: if you work in an office in person around people,
Speaker 3: which a lot of people don't, there's not a lot of.
Speaker 1: Times where you're like.
Speaker 3: Constantly in a community of other people, especially like living
Speaker 3: in dorms in the same places with them, and so.
Speaker 2: Why even like college, I don't think it's the same
Speaker 2: type of connection you get in rehab.
Speaker 3: It's right, there's also the camaraderie of everybody's at their
Speaker 3: absolute lowest point. Everybody has that weird shared connection in
Speaker 3: a sense.
Speaker 1: So well, I get I get the I get.
Speaker 3: The the conflicting feeling of I'm happy to be three
Speaker 3: years clean, but I also kind of missed the community
Speaker 3: of the rehab.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes like that's myself thinking, oh, maybe I can
Speaker 2: just relapse, so I can I can go back to that.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, join a fucking sewing club or something if you.
Speaker 2: Want, right, Yeah, I have to learn how to sew first.
Speaker 3: But do you still talk to anybody that you met
Speaker 3: and rehab, whether it was you know, just a friend
Speaker 3: or or someone you fraternized with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say I've kept in contact with people. Some
Speaker 2: of them are dad now unfortunately, but the ones who
Speaker 2: aren't I have managed to keep in good terms with.
Speaker 2: It's hard, though, you know, you have to watch them.
Speaker 2: You know, people relapse and you got people asking you
Speaker 2: for money. It's hard seeing people that you care about uh, like,
Speaker 2: especially when you're clean yourself, having to see them just
Speaker 2: get deeper into addiction. But yeah, I still keep in
Speaker 2: contact with them. That's maybe from a distance though.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask if that gets complicated, if
Speaker 3: you ever had to cut somebody off because you felt
Speaker 3: like they were kind of, I guess, a.
Speaker 1: Negative force in your healing journey.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, of course, I feel like that's unavoidable.
Speaker 2: I'd say the hardest person that I've had, I haven't
Speaker 2: cut them off entirely, but a good a good bit.
Speaker 2: My boyfriend actually the one who introduced me to drugs,
Speaker 2: He actually passed away from an overdose, and I became
Speaker 2: friends with his best friend after his death, and I
Speaker 2: eventually had to once I got clean, I had to
Speaker 2: cut off his best friend because of it. And that
Speaker 2: was really hard because that was sort of my last
Speaker 2: connection to my late boyfriend, you know, on good terms.
Speaker 2: It's just he's not on the the same journey as me.
Speaker 3: Tell me about your life, now, what do you so?
Speaker 3: I mean, you're three years clean, right, you said three years?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I just said three years.
Speaker 3: Last month, you're going on family vacations, you're hanging out.
Speaker 1: What's your life.
Speaker 2: Like now, I'm in my last year of college. I
Speaker 2: don't think my I'm majoring in sociology. I don't think
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a job in it, or do
Speaker 2: I really want to. But you know, my my parents
Speaker 2: are educators. They won't think education is important. And I'm
Speaker 2: trying to take an advantage of and be grateful for
Speaker 2: all the opportunities I have that many other people you
Speaker 2: know don't get. But I'm working as a baker. I'm
Speaker 2: hoping to stick with baking, even though the patient. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm working. I'm doing school, trying to keep on good
Speaker 2: terms with my family, even if it costs my sanity.
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's hard to complain. Anything's better
Speaker 2: than being in withdrawals or you know, grieving or like
Speaker 2: like I feel like once you've gone through shit, I
Speaker 2: feel like you appreciate, uh, like the more, just like
Speaker 2: the average things in life a bit more. And so
Speaker 2: overall I'm feeling pretty grateful, trying to remember that everything
Speaker 2: you know. I my personal philosophy in life. I don't
Speaker 2: think everything happens for a reason. I don't think there's
Speaker 2: reason to anything, but I think you can assign reason
Speaker 2: to what you want to assign it to like, because
Speaker 2: life is meaningless, you get to choose what has meaning.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes sense, but.
Speaker 1: Absolutely just trying to remember that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before we go, can you tell me I liked
Speaker 3: what you said about how things being shitty makes you
Speaker 3: really grateful and appreciative for the average things, because like,
Speaker 3: I think about that sometimes. I think about how like
Speaker 3: the average things are like kind of like the most
Speaker 3: of what we have, because it's most of our life
Speaker 3: is you know, stopping at stop signs and you know,
Speaker 3: taking shits and walking average stuff. What are some of
Speaker 3: the average things that you found yourself being being particularly
Speaker 3: grateful for.
Speaker 2: H that's a good question, Lyle. You know, please to
Speaker 2: rest my head at night. Over my head. I like
Speaker 2: going by the creek near my apartment, and you know,
Speaker 2: I just look at the water. I think seeing the
Speaker 2: leaves change is a really nice reminder of just the
Speaker 2: finiteness of life. I guess, you know, I personally, I
Speaker 2: used to be really suicidal. I mean that's kind of
Speaker 2: how you get into drug use, is being suicidal or
Speaker 2: not or not just caring about your life. And I
Speaker 2: think now, uh, I feel very grateful to still be here.
Speaker 2: I think I find a lot of beauty and in life,
Speaker 2: just like the stars in the sky I'm looking looking
Speaker 2: at the stars right now, or like the water, the
Speaker 2: waves crashing next to me. You know, I think for
Speaker 2: a long time I didn't see a point in life,
Speaker 2: and now I think I've come to terms that maybe,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there isn't a point to life, and
Speaker 2: that's that's okay. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with
Speaker 2: just existing, you know.
Speaker 1: Sam, thanks so much for talking to us about all
Speaker 1: this stuff. Is there anything else? Who I say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 5: I.
Speaker 2: Don't know. I'm just just happy to be here. And
Speaker 2: you don't have to have a reason to keep living.
Speaker 2: You can just live and you don't. You don't need
Speaker 2: a reason for it. You don't need a reason to exist,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that's what dogs kind of do,
Speaker 3: and they seem pretty Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'd love to be a cat. I think I should
Speaker 2: have been born as a cat. They just get to
Speaker 2: sleep and ship all day and they don't have to
Speaker 2: pay bills.
Speaker 3: Well, tell your parents, I said, what's up? I don't
Speaker 3: know if they know By that you're that you're talking.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: When you called, I said, I said, what if this
Speaker 2: is the get go? My brother gave me a headshake,
Speaker 2: he said, no, no way, it's him. But my my
Speaker 2: parents do not know.
Speaker 1: If your existence tell your brother to eat my ship.
Speaker 2: Dude, all right, I will do it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Sam, good luck, and uh, don't do PCP
Speaker 3: kuds unless I guess worked out for you.
Speaker 2: But right not an endorsement for PCP. It may have
Speaker 2: worked out for me, I guarantee you it will not
Speaker 2: work out for you.
Speaker 1: Thanks for calling Sam.
Speaker 2: Anytime, Have a good night, lole you bye.
Speaker 1: I really liked that call.
Speaker 3: I've been talking about this a lot on the podcast,
Speaker 3: and I guess just in general, h I think a
Speaker 3: lot about kind of you know, as I do this podcast.
Speaker 3: I've been doing it for about almost four years now,
Speaker 3: and I've struggled to answer the question of, like, what
Speaker 3: have I learned from talking to so many people because
Speaker 3: I just kind of have been like doing it repeatedly
Speaker 3: so much that everything just kind of goes in and
Speaker 3: out and I'm just like focused on the like work
Speaker 3: of doing it that I guess I don't internalize it
Speaker 3: as much and so I've finally come to one of
Speaker 3: the many answers to that question, which is that, like
Speaker 3: a lot of life seems to me to be about perspective,
Speaker 3: you know, because you think about Sam and the way
Speaker 3: she was talking, you know, the things that seem as
Speaker 3: though they make her life great is just this perspective
Speaker 3: she has that.
Speaker 1: Life as she lives it currently is enough and good.
Speaker 1: And I like that. And then you got guy.
Speaker 3: Then you know, you got a caller who's like, I
Speaker 3: am upset because I could have made a lot of
Speaker 3: money in bitcoin, but I didn't, and.
Speaker 1: So now I'm pissed.
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, you can have so much and
Speaker 3: be miserable and not have a lot and be happy.
Speaker 3: And you can also you can also go outside, and
Speaker 3: you can also go outside and go ah anytime you want.
Speaker 3: That is that is something that you, as a human
Speaker 3: being or endowed with the right to do. Okay, all right,
Speaker 3: that's enough motivational stuff out of me. I gotta say
Speaker 3: something crazy to counteract the wholesome motivation.
Speaker 5: What do I say?
Speaker 1: I gotta see something crazy?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 1: Okay? We did it.
Speaker 5: All from Hello, Hello, Hey, what's up? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Tell you what's going on? What's your what's what's up?
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I just I would call in.
Speaker 5: I try, and this is my first time and I
Speaker 5: can't believe I got through.
Speaker 1: What's your life? Like, Zach?
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I'm a pizza man. I delivered pizzas.
Speaker 5: I do some serving. I live in a house that
Speaker 5: my parents own, I rented with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Do you like life?
Speaker 5: Man? I don't want. I would think a lot.
Speaker 1: What do you ever think?
Speaker 5: But hmm, man, time be moving fast, dog sure does.
Speaker 5: And I don't know. I think about like how I'm
Speaker 5: getting older and like everything else is like of course
Speaker 5: getting older, but like I don't know, like you ever
Speaker 5: think about like I don't know how phrase is? I
Speaker 5: guess I do. I'm just like I'm on the spot.
Speaker 5: So I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 1: Take your time, Take your time.
Speaker 5: So like the other day, you ever seen that movie
Speaker 5: called Supersize Me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: That the main dude, like the main guy, I forget
Speaker 5: his name. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, you want to hear something. You want to
Speaker 3: hear something crazy and I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 3: mean to intercept your story, but uh yeah, So the
Speaker 3: main guy from Supersize Me died.
Speaker 1: His name was Mergan Spurlock. I also had a little
Speaker 1: bit of.
Speaker 3: An existential crisis when I saw that he died, because
Speaker 3: he was only fifty.
Speaker 1: Three, and I was like, damn, dude, you can just die.
Speaker 1: Is that what you were going to say?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, dude, like that.
Speaker 3: That's exactly I literally was feeling exactly what you were
Speaker 3: feeling yesterday when I saw that he died.
Speaker 5: Dude, that makes me feel like so much better to
Speaker 5: know that I'm not like on like some weird different
Speaker 5: viewpoint than other people.
Speaker 3: No, No, because that's the ultimate wake up call, is like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're gonna die. In fact, I almost think and it's
Speaker 3: kind of impossible because it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's like, are you familiar with the phrase memento mori?
Speaker 3: No, It means remembering death and just remembering your own
Speaker 3: mortality or remembering you're gonna die. And some people have
Speaker 3: this philosophy that the knowledge of your own death should
Speaker 3: be a daily thing to be thinking about and that
Speaker 3: it should have.
Speaker 1: A really, really, really strong hand in influencing your decisions.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because some people do that, but in
Speaker 3: such a way that gives them a ton of anxiety.
Speaker 3: But really the idea is you do that in such
Speaker 3: a way that is empowering to you and prevents you
Speaker 3: from wasting time and influences your decisions such that you're
Speaker 3: prioritizing things that actually matter because you're gonna fucking die.
Speaker 5: M that's a lot to lay on me. I ain't
Speaker 5: gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Tell me what your experience has been with that. Okay,
Speaker 3: so yesterday you saw you went on Reddit, you saw
Speaker 3: Morgan Spurlock died. You were like, oh shit, that guy
Speaker 3: was here and now he's not, and now I'm gonna
Speaker 3: not be here too. What was going through your brain?
Speaker 3: Tell me you're telling about your existential thoughts.
Speaker 5: Man, So like, I've been having a lot of that, honestly,
Speaker 5: of like, because I feel like a lot of like
Speaker 5: people I grew up watching have recently passed away in
Speaker 5: a few years, the last couple of years, and my
Speaker 5: christis is like, like, shit, man, I'm getting old. Like, Man,
Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you, I'm only twenty two. I
Speaker 5: know that I ain't old, like I'm I'm like self
Speaker 5: aware enough to know like I ain't old, like I
Speaker 5: got time and everything. But it's still be like affecting
Speaker 5: me in some ways because like I got family that's old, man,
Speaker 5: and it makes me worry, you know, it makes me think, like, man,
Speaker 5: I gotta spend as much time with them. I gotta
Speaker 5: do this and that butts so like way on someone, m.
Speaker 1: Hmm, what do you want to do before you die?
Speaker 5: Man? I'm gonna be honest, there ain't much really, Like
Speaker 5: I got a decent place, I got a good girlfriend.
Speaker 5: Family's pretty cool most of the time.
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, Yeah, that's amazing. That's great. You
Speaker 1: sound like you're you sound like you're living the dream.
Speaker 5: I think I am at the end of the day.
Speaker 5: But then you know, shit happened throughout the day and
Speaker 5: I just I get into it. Like what, man, I
Speaker 5: worked at a pizza place and I actually text you
Speaker 5: about this, but I didn't like specify who I was.
Speaker 5: But I serve at this pizza place, like it's more
Speaker 5: like a restaurant than like just to like come in,
Speaker 5: grab a pizza and go. And the night before, you know,
Speaker 5: I tried this edible and I guess I took too much,
Speaker 5: so like I was all fucked up all throughout the night.
Speaker 5: Thought I was gonna die because you know, I was
Speaker 5: getting sick throughout must of the night. And then the next day,
Speaker 5: like I slept the entire day until it's time to
Speaker 5: go to work. I get to working, man, and there's
Speaker 5: like a line of people just wait in the door
Speaker 5: until we open, and it's my high school teachers. And
Speaker 5: I got served that day and I'm still like fucked up,
Speaker 5: and just that entire situation. Man, I was like on
Speaker 5: the brink of just like having a panic attack because
Speaker 5: like that's a lot. I don't even know where to
Speaker 5: like go from here to They're like I'm I'm taking pizzas,
Speaker 5: I'm swinging out some water to people. I got collect
Speaker 5: and clean the tables because like we don't even have
Speaker 5: like bussers, Like I'd got to clean the tables.
Speaker 1: I gotta do the dishes, like and you're all doing
Speaker 1: this while you're like tweaking out on edible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, no, like and I'm like, dude, that stuff
Speaker 5: like that's not usual for me. Like I felt really bad,
Speaker 5: Like I get paranoia that like, oh, this person knew
Speaker 5: that I was messed up. This person does my parents? Dude?
Speaker 1: So then so did did did your did this?
Speaker 3: Cause the death anxiety that you were you were just
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 5: Honestly, it made it worse. But like, I've had that
Speaker 5: since I was a child. Like my mom's always brought
Speaker 5: up how I was scared of death when I was
Speaker 5: growing up. It's just been a common thing.
Speaker 1: So tell me why. I guess.
Speaker 3: So, I don't know if you were to make your
Speaker 3: decisions based on the fact that you are going to die,
Speaker 3: would you change anything?
Speaker 5: Like what do you mean what decisions?
Speaker 1: Just like just fucking life decisions, manh Dude.
Speaker 5: Everyone's got things that they go back and they think,
Speaker 5: like maybe I would want to change a little bit
Speaker 5: here and there, no matter how perfect their life is,
Speaker 5: just like a what is anario?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure. Well also, you're still like, fuck man,
Speaker 1: you're still super young. But I mean, I give what
Speaker 1: you mean.
Speaker 3: I feel uh actually lately I felt very very young,
Speaker 3: But I have I've had a lot of fucking times
Speaker 3: when I was like, like, I I'll read my journal
Speaker 3: sometimes I have something in my journal where I was
Speaker 3: talking about like, you know, I'm twenty four years old,
Speaker 3: but I feel dead.
Speaker 1: You know, I feel old. Uh, But I actually lately
Speaker 1: I've been feeling pretty young. Do you do you feel old?
Speaker 6: So you're I feel old?
Speaker 1: Why do you tell me? How do you feel old?
Speaker 5: Dude? Man? It's because like you already sit there and
Speaker 5: think about how like you brought up that guy from
Speaker 5: Supersize me and how he passed away and he was
Speaker 5: only like fifty three, you said, I think, and you know,
Speaker 5: that just shows me how short time can be depending
Speaker 5: on what you do. But sometimes life just sneaks up
Speaker 5: on you and throws you a hail Mary, you know, like,
Speaker 5: and you don't know what to do with that. And
Speaker 5: I guess I feel old because like people are passing
Speaker 5: away that I know, you know, actors, actresses, people close
Speaker 5: to me, you know whatever, and like things are becoming
Speaker 5: outdated that were cool to me. Like I got a
Speaker 5: guy that's like sixty years younger than me at work.
Speaker 5: And I made a joke about this video game. I
Speaker 5: don't know if you ever played Sandy Blade on the
Speaker 5: on your phone. It was a mobile game with like
Speaker 5: splashing if your like fruit Ninja, but it was like
Speaker 5: a night dude, that game was lit. Oh you're missing out,
Speaker 5: But that's besides the point. I brought that up in
Speaker 5: a joke as a conversation he just like had no idea,
Speaker 5: and that like huge disconnect made me think about, Man,
Speaker 5: what else don't you know? Dude? Like what There's just
Speaker 5: so much stuff that happens, like in history and time,
Speaker 5: Like there's so much going on it, time's constantly moving.
Speaker 5: You can never like fully grasp that. I guess, do.
Speaker 1: You well, I don't know. Yeah, it's weird. It's a
Speaker 1: weird thing. I kind of.
Speaker 3: There's something about when you graduate from the system of
Speaker 3: high school and college where you get to a point
Speaker 3: where nobody's telling you what to do anymore, and the
Speaker 3: age of which you reach that point, it then becomes
Speaker 3: like that for the rest of your entire life, and
Speaker 3: you're like, damn, for the rest of my life, nobody's
Speaker 3: ever going to be telling me what to do anymore,
Speaker 3: and I have to make my own decisions and guide myself.
Speaker 3: And you know, ideally you have you know, people, and
Speaker 3: I guess certain certain things guide you, but ultimately you're
Speaker 3: signing off on it all.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Welco, what's your favorite flavor of pizza?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite pizza topping?
Speaker 5: Dude, give me a ranch pepperoni with some banana peppers.
Speaker 1: What the fuck banana peppers.
Speaker 5: Well, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. You
Speaker 5: like you never have banana peppers on your pizza.
Speaker 1: I'm not a pepper guy.
Speaker 5: No, not really nor so I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. You mentioned Ranch. I love Ranch.
Speaker 3: Uh, Barbie, what do you feel about? How do you
Speaker 3: feel about barbecue chicken pizza?
Speaker 5: Hey, give me a barbecue chicken bacon pizza.
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds good. You about to get one?
Speaker 1: Do you like? Can you tell can you tell me
Speaker 1: if this is weird?
Speaker 5: This is uh?
Speaker 1: This is one of my big quirks. It's one of
Speaker 1: my big idiosyncrasies. Is uh.
Speaker 3: Anytime I go to a pizza the slice place, you
Speaker 3: know how when you get your slice of pizza, they'll
Speaker 3: take it and they'll put.
Speaker 1: It in the oven to heat it up.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always tell them not to do that, and
Speaker 3: I just want it as is like a little cold.
Speaker 5: You like that lukewarm pizza? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I like it when it's lukewarm, because here's always happens.
Speaker 3: They put it in the oven and then when it
Speaker 3: comes out, it's way too hot to eat and the
Speaker 3: cheese is so hot that you can't even really taste
Speaker 3: the cheese because you're just tasting fucking burning, and the
Speaker 3: oil gets all uh dense, and it's just more greasy,
Speaker 3: and it it's hot, and the crust is so crispy
Speaker 3: and thin that you can't even chew on it and
Speaker 3: enjoy like a chewy piece of pizza. So I always
Speaker 3: tell them not to not to heat it up. Sometimes
Speaker 3: I overshoot and the pizza is a little too cold.
Speaker 3: It's like it's been in the fridge. I don't like that,
Speaker 3: But I like when it's uh lukewarm. Sometimes you get
Speaker 3: it right of the perfect.
Speaker 1: Temperature, you know.
Speaker 3: But when you order pizza at a restaurant, sounds like
Speaker 3: you're more at a restaurant place. They always send it
Speaker 3: to you fresh.
Speaker 1: But that can be good too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what's your go to pizza?
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm gonna say, I'll get a Here's what I'll
Speaker 3: usually do. I'll get a slice of regular and then
Speaker 3: a slice of something crazy. So I'll do one slice
Speaker 3: of cheese as like a backup, as like a just
Speaker 3: in case if all else fails, we still got this one.
Speaker 3: And then I'll do like, you know, either a chicken
Speaker 3: bacon ranch or I want there's just one place they.
Speaker 1: Have spaghetti pizza.
Speaker 3: They just put a bunch of They just fill a
Speaker 3: fucking pie crust with spaghetti.
Speaker 1: All I try that, So I'll.
Speaker 5: Do one.
Speaker 1: Right now, dog, Yeah, what's your favorite spaghetti?
Speaker 5: No, you can't be talking to me about that right
Speaker 5: now that I can't about spaghetti.
Speaker 1: You got on?
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah that night that like that that night before
Speaker 5: I served. That's why I got sick on. Like my
Speaker 5: girlfriend was up like in the bathroom me like helped
Speaker 5: me out, Like I'm a die dog.
Speaker 1: Because you ate spaghetti.
Speaker 5: Look I so like I took them. We ate like dude.
Speaker 5: She she said, man, this She said, man, this is
Speaker 5: a lot. And I said, yeah, that was a lot.
Speaker 5: And she looked over and within like two seconds my
Speaker 5: bowl was completely empty. Meatballs, garg cheese, bread, all of it.
Speaker 5: Like I'm notoriously a fast eater. And then probably an
Speaker 5: hour later, after washing Cody agent Cody Banks, I was
Speaker 5: in the I was in the bathroom letting all loose.
Speaker 1: I thought it was because you got high.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I got I got high. But like I
Speaker 5: get when I get too high, I get like motion stick,
Speaker 5: which makes me you know, bomb and stuff.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll be eating and this is this ties back
Speaker 3: into what we were talking about. A lot of the
Speaker 3: time recently, I'll be eating my perfectly lukewarm slice of
Speaker 3: pizza on a stoop outside of the pizza place, or
Speaker 3: just like kind of standing on the sidewalk outside of
Speaker 3: the pizza place, and I'm looking around, and I am like,
Speaker 3: I think this is it, you know, Like I like
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, I'm you kind feel like you're on
Speaker 3: a search for like what's the best version of life
Speaker 3: or what's like the real important stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think that's it. I think that's good.
Speaker 1: That's good stuff right there. It's eating a slice of pizza.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like I could die right now just
Speaker 1: eating nothing matters except the slice of lukewarm pizza.
Speaker 5: You do anchovies on your pizza? No?
Speaker 3: I hate ancho Well, actually, you know what, honestly, never them,
Speaker 3: never tried them before.
Speaker 5: All right, we're good, then we're good.
Speaker 1: Should I try anchoviies?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: No, Like, we don't serve anchovies in my place.
Speaker 3: Actually, I think I tried them at some I don't
Speaker 3: know why I was in someplace.
Speaker 1: I must have had them. But how do you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna die? What do you think? Do you think
Speaker 1: you're gonna get killed?
Speaker 5: Man, I don't know. All my family's got like cancer.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that stuff like can just I
Speaker 5: don't know, like how that's not really work out. But
Speaker 5: I've been getting nervous about that stuff. But I think
Speaker 5: I got Chris seventy eight years in me. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: just piecing.
Speaker 1: Out seventy eight years. That's a good run.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like solid fifty three.
Speaker 1: Man, God damn, I swear to guy, it's so funny
Speaker 1: you're bringing this up. I thought the same thing.
Speaker 5: See that dog died too.
Speaker 1: Oh the dog. Well, dogs die all the time. Huh
Speaker 1: yeah the dog, Yeah, the dog died. I remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the dog, the doge dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that old.
Speaker 1: How old was the dose dog when he died?
Speaker 5: Eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 1: That's a ripe old age for a dog.
Speaker 3: I think most dogs, like, if you're lucky, you get
Speaker 3: thirteen years. That's how much a Golden Retriever gets, thirteen
Speaker 3: seventy seventy eight. So I mean it's good. I'd like
Speaker 3: to do eighty. I think if I can do eighty,
Speaker 3: that'd be pretty sweet.
Speaker 5: You want to be doing this until you're eighty like
Speaker 5: taking a call.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm probably not gonna be doing this
Speaker 1: when I'm eighty years old. I don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know I want to be doing I want to
Speaker 3: do something interesting my entire life. I think what I'm
Speaker 3: doing now is pretty interesting. So something as I'm doing
Speaker 3: something interesting that's cool with me, Whether or not that
Speaker 3: involves being a gecko and talking to people on the phone, do.
Speaker 5: A live interview while skydiving, that would act. No.
Speaker 3: No, I don't like doing No, I'm not into shit
Speaker 3: where I don't I'm not into like extreme sports. I
Speaker 3: don't have any interest in bungee jumping or jumping out
Speaker 3: of a plane or any of that shit.
Speaker 5: Are you in the skies right now?
Speaker 1: You got me there?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 1: No, I'll probably just get cancer and die.
Speaker 5: Don't put it that way.
Speaker 3: What do you mean that's that's the bat. I mean
Speaker 3: it's way better than a skydiving accent. Skydiving accents, that's horrible.
Speaker 3: Give me cancer?
Speaker 5: Hey, were you using that make a wish on it? Then?
Speaker 1: What I'm using my that's a great question. Actually, why
Speaker 1: would you use your make a wish? If I was fourth?
Speaker 3: Like I think most make a wish stuff is for
Speaker 3: like kids, and I was thinking if I was fourteen
Speaker 3: and I had cancer, my wish would probably be to
Speaker 3: touch boobs. That was my one thing. But now, as
Speaker 3: an adult make a wish, I don't there's nothing I
Speaker 3: don't I don't think I would have a wish as
Speaker 3: an adult. I don't think there's anything that I want
Speaker 3: that Make a Wish could give me.
Speaker 1: Right now, what would you make? I don't know if that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that means that I am happy.
Speaker 5: You're complishing then, like you're you're in a stable position.
Speaker 3: I don't think it means that I'm happy, but I
Speaker 3: think it means there's nothing missing from my life that
Speaker 3: I believe the Make a Wish Foundation could provide, Like
Speaker 3: I don't need to fight.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think one of the ones they did was like
Speaker 3: that a kid was Batman for a day. And I
Speaker 3: don't think being Batman for a day would be interesting
Speaker 3: to me as an adult or or make my life better.
Speaker 1: But what about you? What we your wish be.
Speaker 5: Oh Man taking me a space? You think they would
Speaker 5: do that?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I'm stealing yours? That's that's Can they
Speaker 3: do that? Can they take kids to the space. I
Speaker 3: feel like they can. If they could do that, then yes,
Speaker 3: I want to see space.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think that'd be fucking terrifying. Though right.
Speaker 5: I'm getting hell of emotion sick.
Speaker 3: Cause, like I understand how you get just like that
Speaker 3: rocket ship ride to get to space. That must be like, like,
Speaker 3: I'd be really scared of that.
Speaker 5: Then you ain't taking like a gummy nothing. You ain't
Speaker 5: doing popping nothing where you go.
Speaker 3: Fuck, No, I'm not getting high before getting on a ride.
Speaker 3: I would that would be the ultimate because you imagine
Speaker 3: being high in space that sounds awful or actually, no,
Speaker 3: that sounds kind of amazing.
Speaker 5: Imagine you've seen the Earth, you you, and you've seen
Speaker 5: that Earth while you're high. Man, that's gotta be the
Speaker 5: craziest thing you ever see.
Speaker 1: You ever play a Call of Modern Warfare two?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Remember when the trailer for that came out and
Speaker 3: there was a cut scene where you're in fucking space
Speaker 3: that was so hyped.
Speaker 5: I don't remember that. I'm gonna be honest, but that
Speaker 5: sounds odd. Maybe I'll watch you after this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet space is probably like it isn't in
Speaker 3: Monorn Warfare two, would you that, soh yeah, I would
Speaker 3: take that if that was a wish available to you.
Speaker 5: Go into space, you know, and get your custom like
Speaker 5: get costume, like astronaut costume.
Speaker 1: Yeah, make it all green and green and green and shit,
Speaker 1: that'd be cool.
Speaker 5: That's pretty cool. Man.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry that I couldn't solve both of our
Speaker 3: inevitable deaths over the course of this phone call.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm glad we got to work it out.
Speaker 5: Fuck that I got to talk to the GEK. That's
Speaker 5: that's already like that made me feel better. I do
Speaker 5: have one question, though, Yeah, what's up? So I see
Speaker 5: your tour dates? Man, how come you ain't coming back
Speaker 5: to like Indy or Columbus unless I missed that, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I don't really like. Uh, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't decide a lot of the I mean I
Speaker 3: kind of do. Uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'll try. I'll try to come back.
Speaker 5: Please do man, please.
Speaker 3: I had a fun I had a fun time last
Speaker 3: time I was in uh, Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1: I like that place.
Speaker 3: I like a lot of the comedy clubs are in malls,
Speaker 3: so I get to have an Auntie Anne's pretzel before
Speaker 3: the show, and that's my favorite part.
Speaker 5: I will get you on if you come back to Columbus.
Speaker 1: What's your name against?
Speaker 4: Sir?
Speaker 5: Named Zach Zach Zach Zada?
Speaker 1: Thing else you want to say to the people of
Speaker 1: the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: Hey, man, Yetta live once. You gotta have a good time,
Speaker 5: Jack Blass.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Have a good night too.
Speaker 3: Now, imagine eating a lukewarm slice of pizza in space.
Speaker 3: That'd be a pretty good uh way to die.
Speaker 1: Hello. Hello, Hi, it's Lyle Hi. Hello, Hello, what is
Speaker 1: your name?
Speaker 5: I'm Cat Cat?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Kat? Thanks for not much?
Speaker 6: Not much?
Speaker 3: Thanks for talking and thanks for talking on my on
Speaker 3: my little show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for calling me. I'm just at my
Speaker 4: second job. I clean a preschool in the evening.
Speaker 1: You clean a preschool?
Speaker 4: Yes and yes, for one hour a day Monday through Friday,
Speaker 4: and some times I hold off till Sunday.
Speaker 3: What kind of bodily fluids were getting into here? Snotpuke blood?
Speaker 4: Honestly, they're potty training, so it's mostly urine and a
Speaker 4: little bit of species.
Speaker 1: How'd you get into that line of work?
Speaker 4: I've been cleaning for a few years, and slowly I
Speaker 4: went from house cleaning to school cleaning and this turned
Speaker 4: out to be a really nice gig. And yeah, that's
Speaker 4: a that's about it. It's just a series of jumping
Speaker 4: from one cleaning job to the next, and this has
Speaker 4: been a nice one.
Speaker 1: So that this is your second job, you say, what's
Speaker 1: your first job?
Speaker 4: My first job, I do cleaning for a casino.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's funny because I really can't decide which one
Speaker 3: I think is Grosser's the casino, do you think? So okay,
Speaker 3: tell me tell me about the messes at the casinos
Speaker 3: versus the messes in the preschool.
Speaker 4: The preschool is easy. I mean, the kids do a
Speaker 4: little bit of dribble here and there with the potty
Speaker 4: training stuff. But like the casino, you have days where
Speaker 4: someone will come in and just trash your whole bathroom,
Speaker 4: like your assigned restroom, and I mean like someone will
Speaker 4: come in and just shit all over like the whole floor,
Speaker 4: multiple stalls, and you have to like shut down the
Speaker 4: restroom and there's a whole process for cleaning that up.
Speaker 4: And it's everywhere, It's everywhere, and the smell never seems
Speaker 4: to completely go away. So that's it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Now, are the messes made more by people who are
Speaker 3: losing and they're upset and so they take it out
Speaker 3: on the bathroom or by people who are winning and
Speaker 3: they're so a static that they don't give a shit
Speaker 3: anymore and they're taking it out on the bathroom.
Speaker 4: I want to say winning. And it's most because when
Speaker 4: they're winning, they don't want to get up from the machine,
Speaker 4: so they're racing over there at the last second, and
Speaker 4: they don't They don't always make it.
Speaker 3: Have you seen that video of these like old people
Speaker 3: who are just kind of mindlessly put in quarters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're tapping and tapping. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you see that a lot?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That's that's that's a day at worked for me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I see a lot of that. That's like a I
Speaker 4: don't get.
Speaker 1: The slot machines.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I've said this on here before, but
Speaker 3: the slot machines are very disappointing to me because you
Speaker 3: go into the casino and they have all these like
Speaker 3: flashing lights and colors, and there's like a panda game
Speaker 3: and a fucking dragon game, and here's a they they've
Speaker 3: like licensed all these properties. So it's like, here's Willy
Speaker 3: Waka the game and all this stuff, but it's all
Speaker 3: the same game.
Speaker 1: It's all just one button.
Speaker 3: It's not like Dave and Busters where you actually get
Speaker 3: to you don't get to even play anything.
Speaker 4: No, you're right, yeah, they're all it's all. It's all
Speaker 4: the same. It's just what theme do you feel like
Speaker 4: sitting at? I don't gamble, so I don't really get it.
Speaker 4: I guess I have no clue how any of those
Speaker 4: machines work, honestly, But so, how long.
Speaker 1: Have you been cleaning stuff?
Speaker 4: For almost four years? I started cleaning, well, maybe a
Speaker 4: little over four years. I started cleaning right before COVID hit.
Speaker 4: My first house house cleaning job was with the company,
Speaker 4: and I was like, this would be really nice.
Speaker 2: It'll be quiet.
Speaker 4: I'm going into people's homes and they're not there. And
Speaker 4: then COVID hit and everyone was like locked in and
Speaker 4: suddenly people were like following me while I cleaned their houses,
Speaker 4: and we're like really persnickety about it.
Speaker 3: So the very first time you had to clean diarrhea
Speaker 3: was it something you had to get over? And now
Speaker 3: every time you clean diarrhea, it's like all right, I've
Speaker 3: been through this before, or is it still kind of hit.
Speaker 1: You every time?
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't. I don't think that one
Speaker 4: hit me too too hard. One thing I have not
Speaker 4: cleaned yet is vomit. And I'll be honest, I have
Speaker 4: no clue how that's gonna go when that happens.
Speaker 3: Four years of cleaning a casino in a preschool and
Speaker 3: you've never had to clean vomit.
Speaker 2: I haven't had to clean vomit.
Speaker 4: Now I'm lucky I had to clean. Yeah, I've had
Speaker 4: to clean a lot of diarrhea, but not not vomit. Surprisingly.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna and look, here's the thing. We
Speaker 3: could talk about vomiting diarrhea for the next half hour
Speaker 3: if you want to. But before we do that, I
Speaker 3: want to say, is there a particular thing that you
Speaker 3: called in to want to talk about?
Speaker 4: No, I gave you a list. I don't know what
Speaker 4: you saw that you were the most compelled by. I'm
Speaker 4: open to whatever. I'm open to anything not on that list.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, let's see. I mean, I mean, I okay, sure,
Speaker 3: I mean you sent me a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3: One of the things you said was I'm dating somebody
Speaker 3: who makes so much money that I feel intimidated to
Speaker 3: be in a relationship with them. We are discussing me
Speaker 3: moving in at some point and being a housewife.
Speaker 1: Is that something you wanted.
Speaker 6: To talk about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm hoping to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: I just I just started seeing someone. He's really really great.
Speaker 4: But I have always been I've always worked really hard
Speaker 4: and really like scraped for like just being able to survive.
Speaker 4: I live in southern California and it's expensive out here,
Speaker 4: and so I just started seeing this guy. He's really
Speaker 4: really great, and it turns out he makes so much money.
Speaker 4: He makes so much money and I feel like I
Speaker 4: have no business dating him because I'm not like the
Speaker 4: same caliber financially. He's completely, like, totally cool with it.
Speaker 4: It's no big deal to him. He just likes me
Speaker 4: for me, and I do like him for him. There
Speaker 4: just is this weird financial gap. I guess it's it's
Speaker 4: I think I make maybe a quarter of what he
Speaker 4: makes in a year, so it's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 3: I have to ask the what I mean, when you
Speaker 3: get into it and you really think about it, why
Speaker 3: does it matter?
Speaker 1: If he seems to like you for you, and you
Speaker 1: seem to like him for him.
Speaker 4: You know, I've been asking myself the same thing. It
Speaker 4: shouldn't matter, and in reality it doesn't matter. But I
Speaker 4: guess I worry about being too dependent on him or
Speaker 4: really enjoying the relationship for a year or a couple
Speaker 4: of years or a long time, and at some point
Speaker 4: it just turns into like I just live off of
Speaker 4: him or he I mean, I become completely totally dependent
Speaker 4: on him, and I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want that to.
Speaker 1: Be the case.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be fair to him. I
Speaker 4: don't think it would be fair to me, but more so,
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be fair to him to
Speaker 4: just be take taking care of another person like in
Speaker 4: that way. In any way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I actually, I actually think you're going
Speaker 3: about this really well because the awareness that you have
Speaker 3: of like, you know, I mean, sure, if he wants
Speaker 3: to take me to a nice dinner every now and
Speaker 3: then and blah blah blah, that's great, But I want
Speaker 3: to maintain my own sense of self and my own
Speaker 3: finances and not find myself for lyting on this.
Speaker 1: Skuy. I think that's really a good goal to have
Speaker 1: and a good thing to keep in mind.
Speaker 3: And I think as long as you're keeping that in
Speaker 3: mind and you're doing that, there's nothing for you to
Speaker 3: worry about. Are you worried that you're gonna digress on
Speaker 3: the goal of having your own finances in order as
Speaker 3: you get deeper into your relationship.
Speaker 4: With this guy, Absolutely, I'm worried about becoming lazy, both
Speaker 4: financially and physically. Basically, I don't want to turn into
Speaker 4: like a permanent couch potato that just like has groceries
Speaker 4: brought to them and whatever else they want. Like, I
Speaker 4: don't want to become a lazy dependent. I want to
Speaker 4: be able to maintain Like like we're discussing me possibly
Speaker 4: moving in and taking care of the house, and he
Speaker 4: was saying, well, we could split it fifty fifty, like
Speaker 4: we can split the house chores so that you're not
Speaker 4: like a house slave. But I'm like, if you're bringing
Speaker 4: in this much money and you're cool with me working
Speaker 4: less than I do now and making less than I
Speaker 4: do now and having that money I make the sort
Speaker 4: of like fun money for myself, then I at least
Speaker 4: want to give like one hundred percent to taking care
Speaker 4: of the household and those kinds of chores. I think
Speaker 4: it's the find are even still I shouldn't so.
Speaker 3: He's but he so he suggested, why don't you move
Speaker 3: in and will split the cost of the housing.
Speaker 1: Fifty to fifty.
Speaker 4: He suggested I move in and he would take care
Speaker 4: of the cost of things. Thanks, are so a little
Speaker 4: murky discussing all of the exact numbers, and we're we're
Speaker 4: totally discussing hypotheticals. We haven't been dating very long.
Speaker 1: How long have you guys? How long have you guys
Speaker 1: been there?
Speaker 4: It's been about a month and a half.
Speaker 2: Very brief, very brief.
Speaker 4: It's very short.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How old? How old are you?
Speaker 4: I'm thirty one?
Speaker 3: Okay, Uh, look, dude, I'm not in the business of
Speaker 3: telling people what to do with their lives. I don't
Speaker 3: desire to tell people what to do with their lives,
Speaker 3: which is something I always say right before I'm about
Speaker 3: to tell somebody what they should do with their lives.
Speaker 5: You do, yes?
Speaker 1: I mean, dude? Like, here's I mean? Do you want
Speaker 1: my do you do you want my advice? Do you
Speaker 1: want my like?
Speaker 3: Because I don't If you have this strong desire to
Speaker 3: maintain your independence, then hold true to that desire as
Speaker 3: long as you wish to. You know, like, if that's
Speaker 3: what you want. If you're like, I want to be independent,
Speaker 3: I want to pay for you know, my own housing
Speaker 3: and my own this and my own that.
Speaker 1: Then you're the only thing stopping you from doing that.
Speaker 4: No, that's very true. That's very true. Yeah, I definitely
Speaker 4: want to maintain my sense of self. I definitely want
Speaker 4: to maintain my sense of self beyond beyond financials and anything.
Speaker 4: I want to make sure that I'm still like doing
Speaker 4: the things that are important to me, spending time with
Speaker 4: my family, painting.
Speaker 1: Why are you in a rush to move in with
Speaker 1: this guy you've been seeing for a month.
Speaker 4: I'm not so much in a rush. I think that
Speaker 4: he is a romantic and dreamy individual, which is something
Speaker 4: I like about him, and he brought he brought up
Speaker 4: put me moving in. He's seems very set on me,
Speaker 4: and he's very kind in a way that I can
Speaker 4: tell is genuine. He's a genuine person, and I appreciate
Speaker 4: and respect that.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you.
Speaker 3: Want my advice, I would say that, you know, why
Speaker 3: don't you just keep seeing this guy and don't be
Speaker 3: in a rush to move in with him. And if
Speaker 3: the time does come where you're like feeling pretty confident
Speaker 3: that you do want to move in with him, and
Speaker 3: you're still feeling like and by the way, look, if
Speaker 3: you told me, I'm telling you this, if you told
Speaker 3: me I would love to be a housewife and have
Speaker 3: a rich guy pay for all my shit, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: judge you. I wouldn't look twice. I would say, if
Speaker 3: that's what you want to do, then go do that.
Speaker 3: But if you're telling me that that's not what you
Speaker 3: want to do, and you want to maintain your independence
Speaker 3: and this is this is what you've decided you want
Speaker 3: for yourself, then then.
Speaker 1: Then do that.
Speaker 4: You know, no, that makes sense, that makes sense. So
Speaker 4: I definitely need to cool my jets, and I'm trying
Speaker 4: to keep that in check. It's not that I don't
Speaker 4: want to be a housewife. It's that I don't want
Speaker 4: to become a negligent human being because I became a housewife.
Speaker 3: Are you So you're inferring this idea that if you
Speaker 3: become too dependent and what's the word, huck it, if
Speaker 3: you become too lazy, Because you're just having this guy
Speaker 3: bankroll you. You're afraid that that's going to be a
Speaker 3: detriment to your life.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yeah, that's a complete like loss itself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a smart I think that's a smart thing
Speaker 3: to keep in mind as you navigate that relationship. So
Speaker 3: why don't you just continue to navigate this relationship and
Speaker 3: have fun and get to know this person and you know,
Speaker 3: maybe uh don't You know, you don't have to move
Speaker 3: in with him immediately, but just keep keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're the.
Speaker 3: Only thing I will from I don't know if this
Speaker 3: guy unless if he has a hot tub.
Speaker 1: If he has a hot.
Speaker 3: Tub, move in with him tomorrow and let him bank
Speaker 3: that's pretty cool, that sounds And if he has does
Speaker 3: he have a PlayStation five?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you care about that he does?
Speaker 1: Does he does he have a pool table in the house?
Speaker 4: No, but I don't play pool. He does have a fantastic,
Speaker 4: U large bathtub that I am aware of and think
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 1: Does the bathtub have jets in it?
Speaker 3: Is it kind of like a half bathtub half uh
Speaker 3: hot tub hybrid.
Speaker 4: It's being renovated, and I believe that there is a
Speaker 4: possibility there will be jets in it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I take everything I said back. You should definitely
Speaker 3: should move in with this guy for sure. Sweet, Is
Speaker 3: there anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 3: of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: All? Everyone, just keep chugging along. You're doing a good job,
Speaker 4: whether you realize it or not.
Speaker 1: Beautiful, what's your name? Cat? Take care of cat? Thank you?
Speaker 3: Thank you for all you do for the uh this
Speaker 3: nation's casino diarrhea.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. Lyle. Take it easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hot tub sounds pretty cool, although you don't want
Speaker 3: to get fucked right because then like if you're like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna live with this guy and he's
Speaker 3: gonna pay for my housing and I'm gonna just clean
Speaker 3: up the house, then you're fucked because what happens if
Speaker 3: someone diarrhea is in the hot tub, then you're sitting
Speaker 3: there cleaning diarrhea out of the hot tub.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It goes on the line, taking your
Speaker 1: phone calls every night, Everything goes to his I'm just
Speaker 1: teaching
Speaker 2: You loud in the lin