Speaker 1: Second date up date.
Speaker 2: If you think about it, dating these days is a
Speaker 2: lot like the game Uno. You put one down, you
Speaker 2: draw two more skip, reverse to someone from your past,
Speaker 2: draw another four, skip again.
Speaker 3: Give me a wild card.
Speaker 2: All you want to do is narrow it down to one,
Speaker 2: but it never ends. You just can't get out what
Speaker 2: happens if you hit a yeah in a way, everybody loses.
Speaker 2: But one of our listeners says she feels like she
Speaker 2: may have met her UNO.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cute.
Speaker 1: Spanish for the one Alexis.
Speaker 2: But there was a wild card that was dealt to
Speaker 2: her early on in their meetup. So let's talk to
Speaker 2: her and find out about it. Carolyn, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited to hear about UNO.
Speaker 2: Well, you said there is a wild card delta. What
Speaker 2: did you mean by that?
Speaker 4: Well, I feel bad because I completely went off yelling
Speaker 4: at the sky within like the first ten minutes.
Speaker 3: You were yelling at your date. What the heck?
Speaker 4: Yeah, But there's like a reason, and I mean, but
Speaker 4: I feel bad about it and I shouldn't have popped
Speaker 4: off like that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I cannot wait to hear this whole story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, we went to this restaurant and I put
Speaker 4: in an order with like the waiter.
Speaker 3: Okay, wa wait, hold on, did you already meet him there?
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 4: His name is Jeremy okay, okay, and we had like
Speaker 4: a couple of conversations, you know, like text and whatever,
Speaker 4: but this is our first time meeting face to face.
Speaker 3: Okay. So you're at the table or you're at a
Speaker 3: walk up counter or something.
Speaker 4: We're at the table. We had just sat down and
Speaker 4: the server comes over, you know, pretty quickly and asked
Speaker 4: for our order. And I kind of looked at the
Speaker 4: menu before we went, and I knew what I wanted.
Speaker 3: Is that is so Jose's move.
Speaker 4: So I put in my order and like we didn't
Speaker 4: talk about it or anything. I just like gave the
Speaker 4: waiter my order and then he steps in. He goes, actually, no,
Speaker 4: we're not going to do that.
Speaker 2: Whoa wait, wait wait, Jeremy, your date stepped in and
Speaker 2: was like, actually, no, don't order that exactly.
Speaker 3: Wait was he talking to you or is he talking
Speaker 3: to the waiter, because it's even more condescending if he
Speaker 3: was just talking for you to the waiter.
Speaker 4: No, yes, he was talking to the waiter. That's why
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.
Speaker 2: So sounds like he had a game plan of he
Speaker 2: was going to impress you with his menu and you
Speaker 2: kind of went willy nilly on.
Speaker 3: I would be upset too, Yeah, the boy, you should
Speaker 3: have done to go, oh, if you really want this.
Speaker 1: Let me just job.
Speaker 3: How do you know why did he do that? Well?
Speaker 4: I kind of went off with him and I was like, well,
Speaker 4: why are you controlling what I'm ordering? Like I look
Speaker 4: at the menu, I really want this, like this is
Speaker 4: what I want. And then he just said, like I've
Speaker 4: been here before, and like you don't want to get that.
Speaker 4: It's not very good and I'm trying to save you
Speaker 4: from it, and like I swear, like there's other our
Speaker 4: things on the menu.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and the waiters just standing there awkwardly.
Speaker 3: It's a tough start.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like it was so embarrassing because like I had
Speaker 4: never been to this restaurant, Like I didn't know that
Speaker 4: wasn't like their star dish.
Speaker 2: You know, how did he react to you yelling at him?
Speaker 2: Was he apologetic or was he like should be?
Speaker 4: That's where I like kind of feel bad because he
Speaker 4: was like super nice about it.
Speaker 5: We got back to the date.
Speaker 4: And like it went really great from there, but like
Speaker 4: I don't know, it was.
Speaker 3: Really did you end up getting that dish? Or did
Speaker 3: you get a different one like he said to do?
Speaker 4: I actually ended up getting a different dish.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well it does bring up a good question though, because
Speaker 2: I know how Jose feels about this. But I do
Speaker 2: want to ask the ladies, is it ever okay for
Speaker 2: a guy to order for you or cancel your order
Speaker 2: without talking to your first talking.
Speaker 3: No, she had every right to yell. I mean, how
Speaker 3: would you feel if it was to you? Like, it's
Speaker 3: the same thing, Like it's like any body canceling your order,
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter male or woman.
Speaker 2: Well, the last time I went off on my mom
Speaker 2: when we were at Red Robin, it just it kind
Speaker 2: of created a scene when she put in my cheeseburger.
Speaker 3: I don't want the California Bird again.
Speaker 1: I love I want the Whiskey River Barbecue. You know
Speaker 1: that you love that.
Speaker 3: I mean, why do they sell anything else? That is
Speaker 3: very by far?
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's different dynamic between that and a first date,
Speaker 2: Like that's your first interaction in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 4: I also and I'm fully admitting to you guys, like
Speaker 4: I popped off, like I looking back, Like my tone
Speaker 4: was like a one hundred yeah, but you.
Speaker 3: Said that he was apologetic. You know it sounds like
Speaker 3: it didn't you know, you had the rest of the
Speaker 3: date to recover. Did you yell again?
Speaker 4: Ever? No, No, it went great, and like we even
Speaker 4: talked about like seeing each other again and like how
Speaker 4: much fun we were having. Why I'm like, WHOA, I
Speaker 4: don't know, is this why he's like not calling me
Speaker 4: back because I went too hard?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't blame you, and I don't think he
Speaker 3: would either. I Mean, the thing is is that if
Speaker 3: you guys had just had like thirty seconds to discuss
Speaker 3: the menu together beforehand, all of it would have been avoided.
Speaker 2: And during that conboy, if a guy's ever going to
Speaker 2: pull the chivalry move, it's hard.
Speaker 1: You have to be open and say, hey, would you
Speaker 1: like to order? Would you like me to give you
Speaker 1: a suggestion?
Speaker 5: Is it okay?
Speaker 1: Like you have to say you don't just do it?
Speaker 2: And plus the waiter was right there too. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: witnessing all of it. It's just like a bad.
Speaker 3: Segn you that looked bad. He looked bad too.
Speaker 4: I have to say like it was my initial reaction
Speaker 4: because I've been in prior horrible controlling relationship.
Speaker 3: Look at you with that baggage. Don't we all got it?
Speaker 2: You're short tempered, right, But the good news is they
Speaker 2: did plan. At least they said they were going to
Speaker 2: meet up and go on another day. It's weird that
Speaker 2: he hasn't followed through on that though.
Speaker 3: You haven't left him any voicemails where you're yelling at him,
Speaker 3: or all.
Speaker 1: Caps text messages possibly.
Speaker 3: Anything.
Speaker 4: No I promise It was like none O.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, then let's come back call Jeremy for you
Speaker 2: and figure out what's going on and why he hasn't
Speaker 2: followed through on his promises. Maybe we'll be the ones
Speaker 2: to yell at him when we come back for your
Speaker 2: second date.
Speaker 1: Update right after second date update.
Speaker 2: Normally, when we hear about a woman screaming at a
Speaker 2: man five minutes into their date, it's usually Brooke telling
Speaker 2: us how her weekend went with her husband.
Speaker 1: See the issue, What do you mean you're tired and
Speaker 1: your back hurts?
Speaker 6: Honestly, come on, but this one happened on a first
Speaker 6: date with our listener Carolyn, because the waiter was at
Speaker 6: the table when Carolyn put in her order for a dish,
Speaker 6: and the guy immediately stepped in and said, actually, no,
Speaker 6: she's not gonna have that.
Speaker 3: Dude, God, that just rubs me the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Even me who loves to be chivalry. You don't do
Speaker 1: it like.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Carolyn had a combination bad day going plus gut
Speaker 2: reaction to him saying that, and just went.
Speaker 1: Off on him.
Speaker 2: The thing is, there was a good reason for it,
Speaker 2: because he had actually tried that dish before when he
Speaker 2: visited the restaurant and knew it was not good, so
Speaker 2: he was attempting to step in and save her from
Speaker 2: eating something she probably didn't want to.
Speaker 3: I mean, I want to hear the waiter's point of
Speaker 3: view from this story, because that was the thing. The
Speaker 3: waiter was standing right there. I mean, honestly, it was
Speaker 3: bad reaction from both parties.
Speaker 2: But the good news is they did get past it
Speaker 2: and ended up having a pretty good time together, even
Speaker 2: planned out their next meetup at a different restaurant.
Speaker 1: And she said he was apologetic and actually nice about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The weird part, though, is that Jeremy's now being snaky
Speaker 2: snake and not coming through on his promise of another date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ball, Jeremy.
Speaker 3: I mean, do you think you're going to go off
Speaker 3: on him when we get him on the phone if
Speaker 3: he says something not nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't feel like doing it, Brooke will
Speaker 1: yell at him for you. She's really good at it off.
Speaker 5: So yeah, you can handle it.
Speaker 2: Both.
Speaker 1: You girls can go on.
Speaker 3: He's going to be crying. But if he doesn't answer correctly.
Speaker 1: Every guy likes a tag team, just not that type.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: You never tried it, Jeff, all.
Speaker 1: Right, maybe I'll try it after week off so you
Speaker 1: always say no. Yeah, I don't know how I feel.
Speaker 1: I just want to call Jeremy see what he has
Speaker 1: to say. Hopefully he picks up, but here we go. Hello,
Speaker 1: Hey is this Jeremy?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Who's this?
Speaker 1: What's up? Jeremy? My name is Jeff. Who's talking to me?
Speaker 3: Okay, excuse me as funny? Ask what's up? Like you
Speaker 3: were trying to be cool right there?
Speaker 1: So I was cool?
Speaker 5: So what's going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Well we almost made it twenty seconds into a phone
Speaker 2: conversation without someone berating me.
Speaker 1: But it's fine.
Speaker 2: Jeremy, you're on the radio right now with a show
Speaker 2: called Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 1: This is the show.
Speaker 5: Hey, Jeremy, Oh hello.
Speaker 2: We are doing a segment called a second Date Update,
Speaker 2: and I'm not sure if you know what that is,
Speaker 2: but we're attempting to help out one of our listeners
Speaker 2: get a hold of you after you went out on
Speaker 2: a date with.
Speaker 5: Her for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a girl named Carolyn.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, why.
Speaker 3: Did you react that way? I thought you guys ended
Speaker 3: the day by saying you wanted to see her again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, that is just what you say, you know,
Speaker 5: when you're on a first date that isn't going well.
Speaker 1: We heard a lot, Jeremy.
Speaker 2: We do a lot of these calls where people ghost
Speaker 2: after a first date. That's pretty normal, but usually it
Speaker 2: doesn't happen after you make specific plans with that person
Speaker 2: and pick out a restaurant. And that's why it's so
Speaker 2: interesting to us, Like, why you're not following through with
Speaker 2: that promise?
Speaker 5: Gotcha to be honest, in my mind, I was never
Speaker 5: ever going to fall through with the second.
Speaker 3: What wait, wait, when did you decide that? When did
Speaker 3: you decide there was never going to be a second date.
Speaker 5: Within like the first four or five minutes of the
Speaker 5: first day.
Speaker 2: Okay, And she told us about some of the things
Speaker 2: that happened, and that there was a big argument early
Speaker 2: on after she put in an order.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 1: But you know, you messed up a little bit. We
Speaker 1: talked about it.
Speaker 2: Well, is it just are you turned off that she
Speaker 2: exploded and yelled at you because there was an argument,
Speaker 2: because to us it sounded more like it was a
Speaker 2: misunderstanding between the two.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no, there's no misunderstanding. So she tried
Speaker 5: to order six hundred dollars worth of caviare.
Speaker 3: Wait what what did you say?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 5: Yep? You heard me? Yeap. She tried to order the
Speaker 5: most expensive She flipped the man into the most expensive
Speaker 5: section and then ordered the most expensive thing.
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, was it one of those restaurants where
Speaker 3: they don't list the price? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Maybe she didn't.
Speaker 5: Know she knew what she was doing.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, Well, hold on, if you were
Speaker 2: already turned off in the first five minutes, why did
Speaker 2: you say that you wanted to go out with her
Speaker 2: again and plan a whole date.
Speaker 5: Because when if somebody orders six hundred dollars worth of
Speaker 5: caviar and within five minutes of a first date, I
Speaker 5: don't know they're going to have They're going to react
Speaker 5: to any situation in life. So I'm just like, oh, hey.
Speaker 3: Hey, you're trying to just I mean, to come to
Speaker 3: her defense. Listen, like she ordered it, you said, no,
Speaker 3: she got upset because she thought you were controlling her,
Speaker 3: not because I mean, she didn't mention the price at
Speaker 3: all to us. Oh he's like a rich It sounded
Speaker 3: like she actually felt bad and she didn't end up
Speaker 3: ordering it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. When I when I jumped in and told her
Speaker 5: that we can go to another restaurant and get even
Speaker 5: better caviare that's the only time that she you know,
Speaker 5: then she started apologizing.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh she got those caviar dreams.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and before that she was just calling me cheap.
Speaker 5: And then if I can't afford to go out with
Speaker 5: a woman, she just paid for it by herself. I mean,
Speaker 5: just really knacked.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if she could afford that,
Speaker 3: she could be your sugar moment.
Speaker 5: There's no way she would afford that. She was just
Speaker 5: saying that to make me feel bad.
Speaker 2: Well hold on, Well, we don't know if she could
Speaker 2: afford it or not unless we actually ask her.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jeremy. I have to tell you.
Speaker 2: Carolyn is on the other line right now, listening to
Speaker 2: this conversation.
Speaker 5: Oh way, Caro, are you there?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 3: What the hell, Carolyn? You didn't tell us you were
Speaker 3: trying to order six hundred dollars in caviart.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, please, that is cheap, Like, come on.
Speaker 1: Cheap.
Speaker 3: No one should order that ever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have gone on plenty of dates
Speaker 4: where that is protocol, Like that is nothing for them.
Speaker 4: I mean you must be going on like sheeap dates
Speaker 4: with cheap people, and I mean hot, log's okay, Like
Speaker 4: that's not how I am.
Speaker 1: You got it right on the nose with.
Speaker 3: I'd argue it wasn't Carolyn.
Speaker 1: Clearly there was things that were not yeahs.
Speaker 3: Between and that was not about control at all. That
Speaker 3: was about his bank account.
Speaker 4: I mean I thought we had like a great conversation afterwards,
Speaker 4: and like, at no point did you say anything to
Speaker 4: me about money or like it was too extensive, like
Speaker 4: that was never brought up.
Speaker 5: Yeah to me. First date I'm not cheap. It's a
Speaker 5: first date. We're trying to get to know each other,
Speaker 5: and you're basically putting down a six hundred dollars retainer
Speaker 5: for your first date. You know, but it's it's ridiculous,
Speaker 5: like an invoice. You didn't even ask me if I
Speaker 5: even like caviar. You just went ahead and ordered it,
Speaker 5: and you, like what.
Speaker 4: I think that's just how it is, Like I didn't
Speaker 4: know I needed to ask the mission. Okay, do you
Speaker 4: want the hot dog? I mean who else met?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little bit different.
Speaker 3: I mean, were you going to eat the whole thing
Speaker 3: at Caviar by yourself?
Speaker 4: No, of course not. It was like, you know, serving
Speaker 4: per two. So I mean that's perfect, that's like romantic.
Speaker 3: It is cute because they give you the brand and
Speaker 3: like the I think it's interesting that you're not seeing
Speaker 3: his side of this.
Speaker 4: Not at all, like I.
Speaker 2: Carolyn, Are you more upset about the money thing or
Speaker 2: are you more upset about him making up a story
Speaker 2: about another date and not following through on that.
Speaker 4: I mean both, Let's be honest. Like, I mean, you
Speaker 4: lied about everything, Like I thought we had this great conversation.
Speaker 4: You said you wanted to go on a second date. Like,
Speaker 4: where is all that information? You're not really that like,
Speaker 4: so is that not a thing?
Speaker 5: No, I've had more engaging conversations with my house plans.
Speaker 4: Oh, one of your house plans, then I'm sure a
Speaker 4: snake plan is perfect for you.
Speaker 5: She got maybe I will.
Speaker 3: I will. Wow.
Speaker 2: What I'm hearing here is a lot of passion, and
Speaker 2: passion is the foundation of a strong relationship, right, Brooke.
Speaker 3: I hear a lot of house plans dying.
Speaker 2: Jess, Well, let's maybe we can help pour a little
Speaker 2: fertilizer on it and bring it back to life, because
Speaker 2: we would love to offer to send you to on
Speaker 2: another their date on us.
Speaker 3: Don't say that, would She orders six hundred dollars caviar.
Speaker 2: It's on Brook, twelve hundred dollars worth of caviar for everybody.
Speaker 1: If you too, will see each other again.
Speaker 5: I would rather go on the date myself than with her.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's not really the burn that you think. It is.
Speaker 1: Me too, which is just what you do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's just out here trying to get free expensive meals.
Speaker 5: I would doubt.
Speaker 1: Oh, so she's a foodie. Call I like a call
Speaker 1: for her.
Speaker 3: She's a car nor.
Speaker 1: Carolyn, that's not the one. Being a foody call isn't
Speaker 1: the worst thing to be.
Speaker 5: I mean whatever, he's lame. I don't even care anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, allay, Well, I'm sure that she'll be able to
Speaker 2: find a guy that can actually afford your dates.
Speaker 1: It probably just lives in like Dubai or thirty Falcons.
Speaker 3: My guess is he sixty five years old?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let us know if you find him. Okay, Carolyn,
Speaker 2: because we want to meet that dude.
Speaker 4: You got it.
Speaker 1: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning, Brooking Jeffrey in
Speaker 1: the morning.
Speaker 2: There comes a time in every man's life when he
Speaker 2: has to decide do I want to pay my rent
Speaker 2: or blow all that money on a six hundred dollars
Speaker 2: caviar dish to impress my date?
Speaker 3: And apparently, according to her, there's only one right answer.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: In a shocking move, though, Jeremy chose to keep a
Speaker 2: roof over his head like a total cheap Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: so it didn't work out between the two. I do
Speaker 2: feel like, though, if you are on a date and
Speaker 2: you're ordering a shared appetizer and the dish costs more
Speaker 2: than one hundred bucks, maybe discuss it before you put
Speaker 2: in the order.
Speaker 3: I can't even believe that he took her to a
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I've been to a restaurant
Speaker 3: with this, I mean, maybe six hundred dollars caviar, and
Speaker 3: that she was still complaining, like guaranteed her plate, like
Speaker 3: her dinner already costs so much money settled. But of
Speaker 3: course with the crab on top.
Speaker 1: Jose, you and I should go to a nice seafood
Speaker 1: restaurant after you.
Speaker 3: I yeah, and we gotta get you know, jeff is
Speaker 3: in pay get some good sturgeon.
Speaker 1: Caviar, though it's pretty cheap.
Speaker 5: I'm in.
Speaker 2: Sorry, girls, you're not invited, but if you if you
Speaker 2: go out on a date recently, whether it's a normal
Speaker 2: date or a bro date, we can always help you
Speaker 2: get in touch with that person.
Speaker 1: Afterwards, email the show. We'll call that person who's not
Speaker 1: calling you back.
Speaker 3: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning,