WEBVTT - Daniel Jeremiah's Mock Draft 2.0

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<v Speaker 1>And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to move the Sticks, DJ and Rhett with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bucky is uh, he is out. He is at the

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<v Speaker 1>HBCU Bowl, So he's doing some good work there and

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<v Speaker 1>checking out some of those players. And we'll have an

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<v Speaker 1>update for him when we get him back on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But today, Rhett, I mean, it's a pretty simple one.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a new mock draft that's out, which I

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<v Speaker 1>will say I am excited because I thought the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to the first one somewhat team timid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so much so that. I mean, you send out

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<v Speaker 2>a post last night where you had a member of

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<v Speaker 2>the household, you know, kind of wondering like that, are

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<v Speaker 2>we gonna up the ante here a little bit? We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna we're gonna put in some rage bait into this.

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that's a term I had never heard. It

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<v Speaker 1>struck me as so funny. Yeah, my son is he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's seventeen years old, and I've this is what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>So give you a little peek behind the curtain. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is incredibly long days trying to get all these players

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<v Speaker 1>watched to get ready for the combine, and so to

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<v Speaker 1>keep from going crazy, I can't just sit in my

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<v Speaker 1>office and watch the video. I end up having to

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<v Speaker 1>move around. So one day I'll just go out to

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<v Speaker 1>the family room and I'll just set everything up out

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<v Speaker 1>there and sit in the chair and then do it there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then but then we have another kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>living room area, which is where he plays the xbox.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, I just got to get a

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<v Speaker 1>new I got to get a different view for the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and sat in there. So he's just playing,

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing college football with his friend online or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, oh, well, I just just knocked out

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<v Speaker 1>the mock draft. Got that one's done. He goes, you

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<v Speaker 1>put some good rage bait in there, like, wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you need to start marketing for me? I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I did on purpose at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, surely as we get closer and as

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<v Speaker 2>more people get to consume this mock draft, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course is out now on NFL dot com, I yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like that's kind of what you know. Social

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<v Speaker 2>media is one of the one of the things that's

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<v Speaker 2>known for these days is rage.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was on the lookout for rage. My rage

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<v Speaker 1>radar was up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at some of the comments. I saw some rage.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, apparently there was a rage bit in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know it. You ready to rip into it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the first five with a quick thought

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<v Speaker 1>on the first five, and then I'll open it up

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<v Speaker 1>to you to give me some some feedback here. First off,

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Titans, first pick. I was talking to some folks

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<v Speaker 1>around the league and trying to canvas just like your opinions,

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<v Speaker 1>guys who know people in the decision making process there

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<v Speaker 1>and not with direct information. But the same theme kept

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<v Speaker 1>coming up over and over and over again, which was

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<v Speaker 1>this is new. You know a lot of times we

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<v Speaker 1>hear new regime accompanied with a new quarterback, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was the feedback. I was like, look, we're not completely

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<v Speaker 1>sold slamm dunk quarterbacks here in this draft, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty universal across the board. They're going to have time.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to get time to eventually get their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>And with a plethora of needs, like do you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to look back and say your first pick you

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<v Speaker 1>had to replace a year later or two years later like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just park one in the fairway here, Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>get the best player available and then they can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hunt for a quarterback in the next couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're where they are in their process. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the feedback. So boom, I pump in Abdul Carter and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll kind of give you the lowdown on these first

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<v Speaker 1>five revenue you can, yeah, come back in so next Cleveland. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was again mock drafts doing it from talking to

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<v Speaker 1>people using my ears was Okay, they need a cheap quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson is dead things, he's not playing. That whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing's a mess and all the money committed there. I

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<v Speaker 1>had previously put them without a quarterback because the kirk

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<v Speaker 1>Cousins connection was Tofanski, and then okay, that could make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have to pay kirk Cousins much. But this

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<v Speaker 1>was more like, you know, their roster with where it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they're not going to trade Miles Garrett, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no guarantees they're going to be up here. Again, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a playoff team two years ago. They just need

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<v Speaker 1>to get they need an upgraded quarterback. Can they get somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>This was the phrase it was used. Can they get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bow Knicks, you know, style upside with the player,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, I think absolutely cam Ward can

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<v Speaker 1>eventually get to, you know where bo Nicks has already

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to with the Denver Broncos. So it's a cheap

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback makes sense. The Giants, this was a simple You

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<v Speaker 1>just watched a Super Bowl with an electric player that

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<v Speaker 1>used to wear your uniform, you know, playing for your rival,

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<v Speaker 1>and this feels like trying to right or wrong to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree of like, hey, while we're still trying to

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<v Speaker 1>win and we need to win, we go go get

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Stafford in a trade, which I'm not saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen, but that that rumor is definitely floating

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<v Speaker 1>around as a possibility around the league. You go get

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Stafford. Now you get Travis Hunter to provide some

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<v Speaker 1>excitement wherever you want to play him offense, defense. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an electric player. The Patriots, I could see them as

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<v Speaker 1>a trade down candidate. Again, a team that needs a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>a team that has to upgrade the offensive line. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a there's kind of maybe you could even

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<v Speaker 1>slide back a few picks and still get an off

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<v Speaker 1>defensive lineman. I just don't do trades this early on

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<v Speaker 1>in the process, so didn't want to do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Jacksonville kicked around a lot of different ideas for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just ended up settling on Mason Gramm. It just again,

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<v Speaker 1>new new regime coming in there, and it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a fair way pick. So those are my first

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<v Speaker 1>five Brett.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, and I think the more that we

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<v Speaker 2>look at the Tennessee Titans and where they are, the

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<v Speaker 2>more that abdual Carter makes complete sense. Right here, go

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<v Speaker 2>get a win right now. I mean, like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a surefire impactful player that you're going to get with

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<v Speaker 2>the number one pick. You're going to team him up.

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<v Speaker 2>There's probably gonna make Harold Landry better. On the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the two beasts on the interior and Simmons

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<v Speaker 2>and Defandre Sweat and played really well last year. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you've now all of a sudden, like you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>unit like you you could probably win some games with

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<v Speaker 2>right there up front. With that group that that feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, we're going to continue to throw some resources

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<v Speaker 2>even though we've got some good players up there. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>continue to make that and build that pozzosition of strength

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<v Speaker 2>again similar to the way that the reigning Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>champions have done. Makes a ton of sense. Cam Ward,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally get it. So I guess he's only going

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<v Speaker 2>to be mad at the Titans then, since.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he came out there and said he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>have it against everybody who doesn't pick them.

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<v Speaker 2>So that does make a lot of sense. We're one

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<v Speaker 2>for limiting anger in the world, and that feels like

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<v Speaker 2>you've done that right there. He's only going to be

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<v Speaker 2>upset at the Titans, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's hilarious, by the way, is that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll watch games, you watch NFL games during the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll see, you know, Aman Ross Saint Brown, who

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you the names of all the receivers that's

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<v Speaker 1>right ahead of him, and he was disrespected. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you hear other people talk about, you know, the Brady

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<v Speaker 1>the group was the Brady six or however many quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what you don't hear about the every year

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in the combine and fifty players you end

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<v Speaker 1>up talking to, you say, anybody that passes on me,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna grete it. And those guys that don't end

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<v Speaker 1>up being any good that have promised the league that

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<v Speaker 1>they would be scorn. Don't hear those stories any Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as if it's the only time that that's ever happened,

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<v Speaker 1>is those plays that hit it big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. And then quickly on Travis Hunter, I

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<v Speaker 2>totally understand that selection there, but I would also say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>look at you know, you've had cam Ward and Shador

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<v Speaker 2>Sanders attached in your top fifty, right. I believe at

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<v Speaker 2>ten and eleven would certainly understand if that's the way

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants choose to go is to go get a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback there, you know, especially as it like you look

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<v Speaker 2>further and look, we've all heard the Matthew Stafford rumors.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly we also like, look back at how dang close

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams word playing a Super Bowl? They are really close?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they want to really start over a quarterback? I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like is a is a legitimate They could have nip.

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<v Speaker 1>That in the bud though. Yeah, they could have nipped

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation right in the bud right right when they

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the season, when they were given

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to say he's not going anywhere. Never heard

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<v Speaker 1>those words.

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<v Speaker 2>And as it stands now, would certainly love to see

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<v Speaker 2>Travis Hunter at times with Malik Neighbors. I would certainly

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<v Speaker 2>love to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that, if you're a Giants fan and and

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<v Speaker 1>the pain and anguish you just had watching the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're you get to come and you got

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<v Speaker 1>your first mini camp and it's Matthew Stafford throwing the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to a little bit to Travis Hunter and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to Malik Neighbors, and all of a sudden, it's like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>we were back.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, the fan apathy certainly set in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and and apathy quickly turned to anger, you know with

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<v Speaker 2>the Saquon Barkley things. So you're right, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>at number four, like, don't even mess around with the trades.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the most sensible pick in the entire draft.

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<v Speaker 1>They need they need offensive line. And again it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at I kind of come back to

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<v Speaker 1>the charge Messing last year, the Chargers member last year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, they could tie end, they could take

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<v Speaker 1>your receiver, they could do it. It's like we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take the best offensive line, go make that unit better.

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<v Speaker 2>Just take they got to have it. Love love Mason

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<v Speaker 2>Graham there as well, just an impactful player that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that we've really seen, you know, in the interior.

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<v Speaker 2>They tried it with Eric Armstead, you know, Kalaias Campbell

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<v Speaker 2>before that, and this feels like a nice, homegrown way

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<v Speaker 2>to not spend one hundred million dollars on a free

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<v Speaker 2>agent defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I give him. I put my my thought on

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<v Speaker 1>Mason though, is that he is one of my candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I have him highly high rateed in my

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<v Speaker 1>top fifty. He is one of the candidates keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on in the spring who can take on some

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<v Speaker 1>water in the spring. Because he's not going to be long,

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to get measured. You're going to see he's

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<v Speaker 1>got short arms. He doesn't have a great body compared

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<v Speaker 1>to some of these other guys you're going to look

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<v Speaker 1>at in this class. He doesn't really pass the eye test.

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<v Speaker 1>And I trust me, I know a firsthand because I

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<v Speaker 1>went and saw him play live and I watched warm

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<v Speaker 1>ups and I went, oh, my gosh, I am way

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<v Speaker 1>too high on this kid. Yeah, I did not know.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was something and then then I then

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the game and I was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's good. He's fine, but it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>He's not made for the spring.

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<v Speaker 2>No. No, that's a good point. That's a good way

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<v Speaker 2>to put it. We have those every year.

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<v Speaker 1>do you go further with T Mobile for Business? And

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<v Speaker 1>this is where we get to the Raiders where I

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<v Speaker 1>think now, it's like it's like a it's like being

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles and the freeways can go in like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eight different directions, and it kind of changes

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<v Speaker 1>what happens from here going forward. I did the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing I did in the first one. I put Shudoor

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders there, Chip Kelly coming in there. You think about

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<v Speaker 1>Chip Kelly. You know the offense they ran kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a run heavy offense at Ohio State, which people don't

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<v Speaker 1>think of because of all the receivers they ran the football.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there, they are committed to it. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>play with tight ends. It's not and ship even there

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<v Speaker 1>was an article about this where Chip Even talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this is not his first iteration of offense that he

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<v Speaker 1>introduced when he was in the NFL. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little more physical approach, but then an emphasis on decision

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<v Speaker 1>making at quarterback. And I think Shadoor accurate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>good decision maker. They're going to be out there and

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<v Speaker 1>playing twelve personnel. I think he you know, I for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who played in like a spread set up at Colorado,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Shador he fits that that style. Just let's

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<v Speaker 1>get work on a little bit quicker.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why I have a six and look and

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<v Speaker 2>that is the SEC. That is a sexy pick right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it feels like there's just like there's a

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<v Speaker 2>marriage of philosophy and like style Allen like edge, and

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<v Speaker 2>it all kind of fits right there. With the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 2>I could certainly see that. I could certainly see them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wanting to again kind of follow suit with

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots and continue to stack on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see that. I don't know if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>player that fits that, Bill Kelvin Banks probably the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably a little high for an interior player like Memboo.

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<v Speaker 2>But will or Or from Alabama Booker right, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I mean that's that's a fun one. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the one we're going to see a lot over the

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<v Speaker 2>course of the next couple of weeks. I do feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the one thing that we could we feel pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good about is that they're not going to go get

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Warren at number six.

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<v Speaker 1>Or or or are they Let's let's go thirteen personnel.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's cook, let's cook.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Next I had speaking of Tyler Warren, Tyler Warren again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the second time in a row going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets. When I was looking at the Jets stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm just looking at them and from last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I was pulling up their numbers here, so thirty first

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<v Speaker 1>rushing and yards per game last year offensively tie for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth points per game. And I'm looking at what

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<v Speaker 1>they have and you're going to have to make over

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver room a little bit, because you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have all the Rogers friends, friends of friends of

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron are going to be gone, so you and but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there going, Okay, well you need a receiver

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to help the run game. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>backs aren't the issue. I think they've got three quality

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<v Speaker 1>NFL backs. Oh yeah, so and the offensive line, I

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<v Speaker 1>think They've made some improvements there. They need to stay

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<v Speaker 1>healthy obviously, but I'm like, who helps both, Like, who's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that can come in here and help the

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<v Speaker 1>run game as well as give you another weapon in

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<v Speaker 1>the passing game. And I'm like, that's that's Tyler Warren Man.

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<v Speaker 1>He helped both the run game and the pass game.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, they have not had major production at the

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<v Speaker 2>tight end spot in a while, right, and it just

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<v Speaker 2>and look at look at what you know, you go

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<v Speaker 2>back to where Aaron Glenn comes from Detroit. Look what

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<v Speaker 2>Sam Laporta did for that offense in Detroit too. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit different players here, but you know, laport

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do everything that that Warren does.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a bit, it's a it's a bite your

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<v Speaker 1>knee caps type pick too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh with that question, you know, Yeah, if you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to instill some culture and some and some toughness and

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<v Speaker 2>some edge and some you know, like foundational type building

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<v Speaker 2>there in that in that franchise, that's a winner. Pick

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<v Speaker 2>at seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's why I went there, Carolina. I even

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this in the blurb. They're a prime trade trade

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<v Speaker 1>candidate as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The nice thing you know, it sucks when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of needs on, you know, on your team.

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<v Speaker 1>The nice thing is you can afford to slide around

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<v Speaker 1>and move around a little bit because you're STI gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get somebody that's gonna help you out right, You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to drop in a championship team player too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think with with them, I think trying

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<v Speaker 1>to again find guys that have won. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you've had a team that hasn't won a lot lately,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there is something to that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bryce has been through the fire a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 1>he came out of it stronger. He's got a winning background,

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<v Speaker 1>winning pedigree. Now we go get somebody on the other

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball here in Jalen Walker, who's won

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch, who's dynamic and explosive, a versatile piece there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it kind of gives him a chess piece,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for that group. And get Derek Brown back healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>this defense could take a major step forward next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I look at the defense that lost Frankie Luvu, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and longs for the days of Luke, Keithley

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<v Speaker 2>and Jack Thompson, you know, at the second level and

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<v Speaker 2>that John Beeson, let's go Yeah, sure, let's go line

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<v Speaker 2>it up. That would certainly make sense. Your next one, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is the one that that really caught you know, raised

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<v Speaker 2>my eyebrows a little bit and got me excited. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next one probably the earliest you've seen Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Green from Marshall go uh and the tape is really good,

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<v Speaker 1>the production is excellent. Goes down to the Senior Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>had a really really good week down there before he

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<v Speaker 1>got his Senior Bowl diploma and graduated in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. But I I, you know, Kellen Moore

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<v Speaker 1>being the being the coach there, My my thought was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what did he just witness up close in person? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he witnessed defensive destruction based off of defensive line play.

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<v Speaker 1>So it feels like D line's a way they could

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<v Speaker 1>go there. Now, mikel Williams is a is an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't sleep on that pick there, but this gives

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<v Speaker 1>him a proven pass rusher with production.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like that. And again that also feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a play where again with Kellen's influence and with his

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<v Speaker 2>background again seeing you know, seeing what worked and what won.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just D line, right, it was O line two.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you feel good enough about Trevor Penning at

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<v Speaker 2>right tackle or do you feel like there's somebody in

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<v Speaker 2>that range that could upgrade where you're at right there,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing the issues that Ryan Ramcheck has had, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I could I could see that being a piece. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also kind of curious DJ, you know, because and I

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<v Speaker 2>know your top fifty is how you grade these players?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you evaluate them if you're watching the tape,

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<v Speaker 2>your mock drafts are often things you're hearing, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>so let's just go back to your top fifty. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got Mike Green, I believe a twenty twenty three, so

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<v Speaker 2>yet James Pierce from Tennessee a little bit ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Harmon from Oregon obviously different player interior player. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the values there, but when you when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at Green and Pierce, let's say, what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>rings differently about Green?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was that was pre seniorble too. That's so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first iteration. So we've had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>see Green go up against good competition and be pretty dominant.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's up.

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<v Speaker 1>He got he got a little bump, he got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bump, coming out of the Senior Bowl. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what that was. And we'll see what happens with Pierce.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, teams get a chance to visit with him

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<v Speaker 1>and you know see how they are with him. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's somebody that's definitely a dynamic talent. So yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>uh that that's all going to shake out in the wash.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Mike Green bump, really we see it every year.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw it last year, quiny and Mitchell was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy last year who made that, who got the bump.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you'll see a nice bump there.

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<v Speaker 2>Teaser another Toledo defensive player. And how about that, I

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<v Speaker 2>know we'll get there. How about let's get to number

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<v Speaker 2>ten Chicago Kelvin Banks. Offensive line wise, I know interiors

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<v Speaker 2>to focus and I know Banks played tackle. He could

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<v Speaker 2>play inside if you needed him to, no problem. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's personally an upgrade form at tackle. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I kind of again, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>mention the Eagles five million times here, but it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>not to win with what we just.

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<v Speaker 1>Saw and and how many how many of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>on that offensive line. Beckton was a tackle who moved

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<v Speaker 1>to guard Dickerson played center. He can play guard. He's played,

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<v Speaker 1>he can play anywhere along the offensive line. Jurgen's started

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<v Speaker 1>at guard while he had to wait to get his

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like this whole like we got to be

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<v Speaker 1>locked in. He is this and only this. Get five

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<v Speaker 1>talented versatile offensive lineman and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Get away if you get tired of mentioning the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>just mentioned the Bucks in the COVID year. Very similar situation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>although not all draft picks, but I mean it's all

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<v Speaker 2>it's all there for you. Offensive line, defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no question. All right, let's do five more and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll take a break here. So eleven Will Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>to the Niners like that. I'm curious on him because

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<v Speaker 1>he is a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first corner off the board, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's not. Yeah, with Travis Hunter, he's not. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have baron over him as a player on my

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<v Speaker 1>top fifty. I think you're going to see some splits

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<v Speaker 1>on Will Johnson and the challenges. The tape was good

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty three to go along with all the traits

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, production, all that stuff. This year, the

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<v Speaker 1>tape was not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>There was very very up and downed too. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean so, and then I'm you know, maybe he'll maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he'll surprise me. I'm curious to see what he runs.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have some concerns about him deep speed wise,

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<v Speaker 1>so couple with not having a lot of tape and

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<v Speaker 1>not having a lot of great tape this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some tackling concerns and questioning the deep speed, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he goes out and surprises me, and he he runs

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<v Speaker 1>four fours in in India and he's gonna go good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna go all the way up there. Nonetheless, that

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<v Speaker 1>was a fit to me with how they play in

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<v Speaker 1>San France.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's also a great way to look at the

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<v Speaker 2>forty two, right, I mean, it's look a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>it is entertainment value for us when we get there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're and we're watching it and we're going through the

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<v Speaker 2>simulcams and all that stuff on NFL Network. But for

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<v Speaker 2>a player like that, it actually can be a real

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<v Speaker 2>positive metric depending on where we see that long speed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the corners, and I'll say this is the comment

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<v Speaker 1>every year, corners the forty matters more than any other position.

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<v Speaker 1>And now the overall importance of the forty has diminished

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<v Speaker 1>greatly because the GPS information that we have, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still at that position. It carries weight, so we'll see there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had him going to the Niners. Walter Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit higher than I had him, But this

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<v Speaker 1>is ODIGAZOOA is a free agent, and so I'm like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's an upfield disruptor and that's that's Walter Nolan from

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<v Speaker 1>Old miss thirteen. Miami's got to get better along the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, especially in the interior. Tyler Booker, I love

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<v Speaker 1>him as a player. I think he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>safest guys out of Alabama. Membo from Missouri going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts. He could start it right tackle when Braden

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<v Speaker 1>Smith's days are done, he can start at guard until that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A great versattle piece there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really really good player. And then fifteen the Falcons,

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<v Speaker 1>I just why not pass rusher? Got to throw a

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<v Speaker 1>pass there? Every year they never take one, but why

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<v Speaker 1>not not going to be deterred RTT Gonna keep trying

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<v Speaker 1>until they eventually do.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point, we're gonna make that thing work. And

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<v Speaker 2>it does feel like this is a really good draft

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<v Speaker 2>to find that match and look at fifteen to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you got a good one. I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 2>where the Rams got versed last year, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is you're gonna You're gonna be in a

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<v Speaker 2>good spot right there to get a really good, impactful

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<v Speaker 2>player off the edge to make that work for Rhem Morris.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, on the Rams, I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody this morning and brought up a great point

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<v Speaker 1>on the Rams, which will you know what, I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>a pin in that because I'll we'll get them. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that when we get to the Rams. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>a nugget on them that I love. But I told

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<v Speaker 1>you that was the interesting part of the draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was where the thing really got going, was there

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<v Speaker 1>at six with the Raiders. So that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the top part there. That's the wrap for the lead

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<v Speaker 1>mock draft right for this all right, right, let's keep

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<v Speaker 1>it rolling here. Sixteen through twenty sixteen Arizona Cardinals Kenneth

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<v Speaker 1>Grant it just to me, it's like the talent is

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<v Speaker 1>there and then having somebody that you can just plug

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<v Speaker 1>right into that defense. I got some other interesting pieces there,

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<v Speaker 1>but overall, defensively for Arizona they were twenty eighth third

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<v Speaker 1>down defense, twenty fifth in yards per carry, twenty eighth

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty sixth the pressure rate. So defensively is where

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<v Speaker 1>you focus, and I think you get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>help there with Kenneth Grant.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you view knowing the way that Jonathan the

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<v Speaker 2>Ganannon runs, you know, runs that defense and how they

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<v Speaker 2>want to run it in Arizona, Like, how do you

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<v Speaker 2>view Grant? Like can you play him as a nose?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you play him out? Can you move him out

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit? You know and play him over the guard?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how do you see where he fits in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, when I look at him, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the comps, it's kind of interesting of what he can be.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Dexter Lawrence is the name that I've mentioned before.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're hoping, you know, he could somehow get

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<v Speaker 1>to that level. Would be incredible, would be insane. But

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<v Speaker 1>you got somebody that I think can play the nose,

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<v Speaker 1>can handle that. But I also think someone who you

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<v Speaker 1>can move around on pass downs, Like if you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Albert Hainsworth years when he was with

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee and Vandenbosch and they used to flip them. They

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<v Speaker 1>used to let Van den Bosch rush over the guard

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<v Speaker 1>and they would let him Hainesworth rush out over the

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<v Speaker 1>edge where I'm just envisioning you could have some fun

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<v Speaker 1>if you gave him a runway at three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty pounds. I think right now he helps the run game.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, he's your nose, he's stacked, and he can

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<v Speaker 1>take on doubles all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Darius, I think it starts to show up a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit too there.

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<v Speaker 1>With Darius Robinson plays off him, you know who can

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<v Speaker 1>really get upfield. So I think it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>fun piece there for them to play with. We get

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<v Speaker 1>keep it going here at seventeen one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>players in the draft and Jaday I got to get it,

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<v Speaker 1>Jaday Jedi. I'm going to figure that out before we

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<v Speaker 1>get there. Baron from Texas had a fun discussion with

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<v Speaker 1>a buddy in the league the other day about him

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<v Speaker 1>because he was like, well, I just don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he could hold up outside at outside, at corner. I

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<v Speaker 1>have my concerns there and I said, well, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a dominant, dominant nickel, like he is outstanding in coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes a ton of plays on the football and oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, he does not miss tackles. So then

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<v Speaker 1>start thinking about it, and we're going to do something

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<v Speaker 1>on this at the combine. Think about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the in the tournament, some of the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that were some of the last teams in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go with.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know they used him differently this year, but

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>McDuffie is at his best when he's in that nickels spot,

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<v Speaker 1>in the nickels on a great defense. Cooper dejen on

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<v Speaker 1>the team that just won the Super Bowl, dominant nickel

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the Ravens when they put Hamilton and moved him down there,

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<v Speaker 1>Look how that changed their their defense. He can play

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<v Speaker 1>back at safety, he can do everything. He actually went

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<v Speaker 1>from front to back and their defense even got better.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, he's someone who has that skill set

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<v Speaker 1>to be an impact player down low. I look at

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<v Speaker 1>Irwin James for the Charters, a playoff team, dominant player

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<v Speaker 1>in that big nickel role. Whether the size, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big Nickel, Reagannickel, whatever you have it. Almost every defense

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<v Speaker 1>has had an impact player that can play in that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I told him this was the point that I

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<v Speaker 1>made is I was like, look, the rest of the league,

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the league blew it on Branch and

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<v Speaker 1>on Degene and allowed those guys to fall in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft and watch them take off. I can't imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>league is going to be this dumb. Three years, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three years in a row doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's too good. Yep. Yeah, Now this is a team.

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<v Speaker 2>This kind of reminds me a little bit of where

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa was before they went to the Super Bowl. They've

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<v Speaker 2>spent some resources now on the defensive backfield in recent drafts.

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<v Speaker 2>Right second rounder on Dj Turner, second rounder on Cam

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor Britt, the third rounder on Jordan Battle. But the

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<v Speaker 2>point is like, you keep swinging right until you find

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<v Speaker 2>that impactful.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude and their Nickels gone, He'll Mike Hill. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the thing that makes a lot. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other thing is defensive tackle needs to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think they I think their next pick is

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<v Speaker 1>forty two. I have that right here. Their next pick

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<v Speaker 1>for Cincinnati is forty nine. They can get ad tackle

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<v Speaker 1>at forty nine this draft is.

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<v Speaker 2>In this draft yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's where I had them going. Uh, Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>dressed the interior of the offensive line. I wish Gray

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<v Speaker 1>is able could clone himself, but he takes care of

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<v Speaker 1>one of those positions somewhere. Yeah, it's a big one

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Uh. And then I've got McMillan, Ted McMillan

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<v Speaker 1>from Arizona, the big wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby. Look, he could go.

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<v Speaker 1>He could go in the top ten easy. But I

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<v Speaker 1>also think there's so many teams looking to address Biggs

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<v Speaker 1>early in this draft that I think there's a chance

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<v Speaker 1>he could slip a little bit. And that's the scenario

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<v Speaker 1>that I ran through here.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And with Tampa with Chris Godwin, a free agent Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Evans there with a bigger frame. Yeah, you get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that that Baker likes playing with this style of receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with Denver, I gave him the joker that

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<v Speaker 1>they appear are wanting there, and that's that's a very

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<v Speaker 1>talented tight end Coulston Levin. I almost flipped it and

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<v Speaker 1>went Colston levelin to the Jets up there, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you told me Colston Lovelan went in the top ten,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised. I think he's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>ten best players in the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's interesting to me. So like that could actually

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<v Speaker 2>end up being closer with Warren and Loveland. Obviously still

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<v Speaker 2>giving the nod to Warren and number at the first

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<v Speaker 2>tight end all I.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave him the same grade. Right, they're totally They're totally

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<v Speaker 1>different stylistically, right. But that's why I did that whole

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<v Speaker 1>tweet the other day about you've got the Gronk tree

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<v Speaker 1>and the Kelsey Tree, and there's some hybrids, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you try and say which one of these guys is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And with Warren you get the seam runner. Keep him

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<v Speaker 1>on the move. He's a rolling billboard down the seam.

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<v Speaker 1>He obviously does his stuff in the run game. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be more physicality after the catch than make

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<v Speaker 1>a miss. And then the Gronk tree, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>get leveland from the Kelsey tree, you want to run

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>option routes, choice routes, whip routes, get in and out.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>You can split him out wide, let him run routes

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and he's going to make you miss after

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<v Speaker 1>the catch. So think he's got realistically too, like oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're there stylistically as how you will use them

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of route running are polar opposite, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think they both have an edge to them to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, yes, yeah, so, uh that's what I had there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like that. I mean the elevation for Zabel,

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<v Speaker 2>I just again speaks to opportunity and and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking advantage of it at the Senior Bowl, like I

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<v Speaker 2>just if not, if not for the Senior Bowl. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think we're still talking about Gray Zabel as the

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<v Speaker 2>eighteenth player off the board here?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because I think you just wonder how he would

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>have done against the competition. You don't have won anymore.

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Bottom of the first maybe top of the site. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there there he goes at eighteen. Good for him and

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 2>the Seahawks are going to be very happy to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have a player like that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, right, it's time for Hot or Not, brought

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<v Speaker 1>one got a little hot hot on the on the

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>internet streets. When I put this one out there a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reactions on this next pick. The Pittsburgh Steelers

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>taking Ashton Genty running back from Boise and State.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it. I think we've seen

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 2>enough of what this offense looks like with Najee Harris

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's not a needle mover. And I think this

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 2>this moves the needle. I'm actually getting a chance. And

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 2>we've talked to Spencer Danielson, his head coach, you know

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>here on Move the Sticks a couple of times. I remember,

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, listening to him as a defensive coach, right

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 2>before he was elevated to the intermad coach and like understanding,

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 2>all right, as a defensive guy, like when did you

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>notice Ashton Genty, Like when he got to camp, when

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>he was like, oh I noticed it in the spring.

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're ripped off an eighty yard run against

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>the number one defense and it wasn't particularly close and

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 2>it was like no, okay, yeah, still, like you know,

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, for a guy who rushes for you know,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty six hundred yards, you know, including the playoffs in

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>college football, Like I think you're you're forecasting a guy

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>who can be a bell cow type and just to me,

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>fits perfectly with what Pittsburgh want. Major work ethic, major toughness,

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 2>incredible dude, and a really talented player in the backfield.

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 2>That's going to make a lot of sense.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you get all the toughness in the physicality, but

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>then you get the home run ability. To me, it's

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like if the two backs that they had had a

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>baby's it gives you the Jalen Warrang juice, and it

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>gives you the power that you had with Najie Harris

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>all on one guy, and I just think he matches

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh beautifully. A little many many run here on running

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>backs at a maryin Hampton going next to the Chargers

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and again thinking playmakers not positions and just saying, Okay,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 1>they need speed, they need dynamic players offensively to surround with.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Lad McConkey in that to me, when I stack him

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>up and like he's the most dynamic skill player that's

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>there at this time.

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I loved watching him against Florida State, Like, I mean

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 2>the way he's got some vision now too to get

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>through there, and then when he gets when he busts out,

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 2>like not only does he have that kind of like

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 2>game breaking, playmaking type of skill, but he's got some

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>shock absorbers too, Like those guys coming to take kill

0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 2>shots on him from the side and just kind of,

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, just kind of absorbs and continues on. That's

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>how you you know, that's what you're talking about when

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>you go from twelve to thirty two in term, twelve

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>yards to thirty two to fifty two yards in a run,

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<v Speaker 2>when you can get past that third level.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be at the combine around two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty five pounds. He's going to run in the

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<v Speaker 1>mid four fours, and he's going to have six percent

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<v Speaker 1>body fat. Come on, come on, you're going to start

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a lot more. You're going to start hearing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more about a mari and Hampton. Is the point

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making here, all right, let's keep it rolling here.

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<v Speaker 1>The Green Bay Packers Josh Simmons, who if he's clean

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<v Speaker 1>and healthy and finishes out the years, no chance he's

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<v Speaker 1>there at this point in time. But he's someone I

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<v Speaker 1>think can be or he can be or left tackle

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<v Speaker 1>of the future. But he can also you know, play

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>any of the other spots. He's really really good feet,

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he can bend, so I had him go to Green Bay.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Feels like their style of guy. The next one I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to spend a little time on here, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to kind of wrap up our little

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>hot or not section here because this is another one

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 1>that got a little bit of buzz on the streets here.

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<v Speaker 1>Trayvon Henderson go into the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. I mean it's like Dalvin Cook comes back in

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the form of an absolute home run hitter at the

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.239
<v Speaker 2>running back spot. And that's I think what we all

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>saw in the college football playoff each was this. This

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>dude absolutely gets after it and I would love to

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>see what he could do. That's a pretty dang good

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>offensive line when healthy now too, so like he's going

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 2>to have some opportunities like that almost feels like that

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>almost feels like in like an Eagles light type of

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>running game with what Trayveon could do. Like he's not Saquon,

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 2>we get it, but that offensive line maybe not quite

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 2>as good as Philly, But like again, if you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find some similarities and some pathways to success, like

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like a great way to support whoever your

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback is. They're in Minnesota this year. I really like

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 2>that pairing of Trayveon to Minnesota and in the style

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 2>in which they run again in which they want to,

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, execute run game like that makes a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of sense to him who took the division away from

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<v Speaker 1>him last year at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Away from the Vikings. Yeah, the Detroit Lions.

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what do the Detroit Lions have a running back

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>when we have an up close view to see in

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>that one? Yeah, they saw what that? And and by

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>the way, back when when you had Randy Moss and

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Chris Carter and that dynamic passing, who did they run back?

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>He can run a little bit, little jeez. So this

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>is a blast to the past here. So I just

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I love that fit. That's what got a little spicy there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you laid down the case as well as as

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I could have right there. I'm a big fan of that.

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<v Speaker 1>would create a little bit, Let's let's finish this up

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<v Speaker 1>here a Mecca Buka. He gets reunited with his college

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterback C J. Stroud Houston. I wrote down in there

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<v Speaker 1>like to me, you have a cerebral quarterback. Now you

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>have someone who's a cerebral receiver who he has history with,

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<v Speaker 1>who's just a pros pro.

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>He just what did they hit?

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<v Speaker 1>What did they hit on?

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>They hit on?

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<v Speaker 1>Will Anderson pro like, just a pro c. J. Stroud

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>is a pro like. You're starting to build that culture.

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>It's the image of Demico Ryans. That's what Demiko Ryans was,

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<v Speaker 1>just professional in every which way, is a player and

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>as a coach. So I love that match there with

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans. All right, this is the one you tease

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>this a little earlier about the Rams. Darius Alexander, big,

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>long rangey athletic. You watch if you want to have

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>some fun, just go watch some of his cutups and

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 1>watch some of the plays that he makes incredible, including

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<v Speaker 1>a pick six. But the Rams best young defensive line

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. I feel confident saying that just in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the young guys that they have so many

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of them. And I had some people say, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>already are good at defensive line, why would they take

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<v Speaker 1>another one? Well, my answer is, again reference a team

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<v Speaker 1>that just won it. You can't have enough. He just

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>keeps stacking them. And this was the point that was

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<v Speaker 1>brought up to me by a mutual friend of ours.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the rams nug, which was, uh, where is it? Hare,

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<v Speaker 1>let me find it? Pull it up. It is right here, okay. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at a lot of their front seven

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<v Speaker 1>picks from the last few years, they have something in common.

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.840
<v Speaker 1>They were small school transfers and players who were doubted.

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Think about Kobe, was it Richmond? You know? First Fisk

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Byron Young. Byron Young came Georgia Military. I mean like

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>he worked at the you know, he was just doing

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>blue collar work. And these guys have and that's how

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they kind of play. So let's go to the Mac

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and let's go get another one of these angry dudes

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that didn't get treated properly.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that. That's that makes a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sense to me. And we saw this dude

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<v Speaker 2>at the Senior Bowl as well and did not disappoint

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 2>he is. He is a guy that fits right in

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 2>with like the havoc that that group reeks on the

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<v Speaker 2>off on the defensive front for Chris Shula and Sean McVay,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 2>and like that is they would I mean, you'd be sick.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I do not want to be sitting around in the

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 2>NFC West, having to deal with that group twice a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just be yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But now, one thing I did, I have to confirm

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 1>his age because I was told that he's a little

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>bit older.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll, uh, yeah, he got in. I mean his

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<v Speaker 2>first year at college was twenty nineteen.

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he's going to be a little bit older,

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<v Speaker 1>which that could end up some teams have issues with that,

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>that could slight him down. But as a player, I

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>think he's he's in that border line there.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>But as an alternate, you're you. You would not be

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>shocked to see an offensive lineman come off the board

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<v Speaker 2>here for the Rams right.

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<v Speaker 1>A left tackle. But I just here's my thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've got the Chiefs taking one here in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>But usually the tackles you get at the bottom of

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>the first round, you'll leave your wanting a little bit

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 1>more because it's such a premium position. It's so hard

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to find. They all go real high, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>almost in some ways, if you don't get one at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the first round, you almost better off

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>just taking a flyer maybe on someone on Day two

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>at some point in time. It's just a that's a

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>theory and a thought that's out there. The Ravens Shamar Stewart, Hey,

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>what do you know, have we ever seen them take

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>an explosive ed rusher who for years we always talked about.

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>The Ravens were obsessed with production at pass with pass rushers.

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>That was Ozzy's thing. The Jason Oway they went, they

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 1>went away from that. Jason Oway has been a good

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>player for him. Shamar Stewart again, just big, long, physical, fast,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>He kind of plays hard. Reminded me of a Raven

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>type player. Detroit Donovan Jackson who can slide right in

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and replace Zeidler who's a free agent. And then Washington

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Jahad Campbell. I'm curious we see at the combine. I

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>know he's you know, he's played off the ball primarily,

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>but they let him rush a little bit. And I

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>was really intrigued by watching him rush and then I

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>do the background on him to figure out, oh, this

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>guy was an edge rusher in high school. They moved

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>him off the ball at Alabama because they had two

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>first round ed rush Dallas Carter and uh yeah, Dallas Dallas,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, and Will Anderson. So I mean that Wash

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of a no brainer there in terms

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>of just I think it's a chess piece, an explosive,

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>dynamic player for for dan Quinn, Matthew Golden, one of

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>my favorites in the draft or sever out of Texas.

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>He goes to Buffalo. Again, they have a lot of

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>defensive needs there in Buffalo that would lead you to

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>believe they could go in that direction. But this one

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>was just this one was too fun, you know, for

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>a team last year that defensively, I mean again, you

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>can go through all the different holes, but you got

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>a Mark Cooper is a free agent. I figured this

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.439
<v Speaker 1>is a nice one to plug in there.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 2>If if Derek Harmon were to get into the first round,

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 2>could you see that as a spot for him.

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Again, when I look at

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:34.040
<v Speaker 1>their defensive stuff, they were twenty ninth and third downs

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>last year, so getting better, and that department twenty fourth

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>and passing yards per game.

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Defensive much longer. Does Von Miller want to play? I

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>don't think.

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much. If we see him this year,

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>it would be a question. I mentioned it teased that

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Josh Connor and the tackle goes to the Kansas City Chiefs.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's going to focus on the one bad rep against

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Mike Green at the Senior Bowl where he got flat backed.

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.240
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that bad the whole week.

0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:57.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:37:58.000 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite as high on him as some other

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:05.720
<v Speaker 1>people are. But if you're if you're desperate in watching that,

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that Super Bowl would lead you to believe they're pretty

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>desperate to upgrade the left tackle position. Josh Connor to me,

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>connorly to me a much better player than Sue Mattia

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 1>coming out of b YU.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Who they Yeah, you've got to win there.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You got an upgrade. And then finally the Philadelphia Eagles,

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>after all this talk and bluster from yours truly about

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>offensive line and defensive line, I'm taking a safety, uh.

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>But from Georgia.

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Malachi starks Is is an interesting one. He's

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>he's someone that is still you know, he's a young player.

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>He's played a lot of football, and he's impactful right

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>when he got on the field there at Georgia. Oh,

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>by the way, another Georgia Bulldog for Howie Roseman. Yeah,

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but I think he's gonna be even better as we

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 1>as we go along here in his career. I think

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles have the luxury of drafting for two years

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>from now and not having year one.

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it too. And you know,

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I think as you put like a he kind of

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>put this whole thing into context, Like this simulation that

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you've put together here speaks to the identity of this draft.

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Like it's a little bit of a gritty draft. Right.

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 2>You've got you've got four interior defensive linemen going here,

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>You've got two off the ball backers. You've got three

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>running backs and two tight ends. Right, I mean this

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 2>fee feels like a big, physical draft. And you know,

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to see an incredible run on receivers

0:39:25.080 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and and maybe not even you know, on corners. I

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.120
<v Speaker 2>think there's only three dbs when we I mean four

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.759
<v Speaker 2>depending on how we're going to classify Travis Hunter. So

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's a really good kind of lesson

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>to learn about where this draft class sits.

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean three of my top seven players are

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>two tight ends and a running back. Yeah, I know,

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>in the draft like on the top fifty. So that's

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where we are, all right, there you

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>have it, right, this was a fun one man kind

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>of jumped in.

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Great. Yeah, great, great food for thought with that, with

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 2>that mock draft, and obviously it's it's a little more

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>than food for thought. I know there's some there's some

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 2>buzz in there, and there's some there's some talk around

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the league in there too, which is all it's interesting

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:01.280
<v Speaker 2>to see how it works.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt. We'll hope you guys have enjoyed this.

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<v Speaker 1>Later this week we'll have the conference call. So I

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>do a conference call a bunch of media folks, so

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:09.919
<v Speaker 1>we'll answer a lot of draft questions on.

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Have you watched the Canadian players yet?

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I have a list of Canadian Well, I've usually I've

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<v Speaker 1>already seen them. I've seen elers online guys. Yes, And

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<v Speaker 1>then what happens is I just have Jack give me

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<v Speaker 1>the actual names of the Canadian guys, and then I've

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<v Speaker 1>put them all my notes to the side. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is inside a look inside my process. I watch everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already got my top fifty reports written. Everything else

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<v Speaker 1>is in a notebook, you know, in terms of taking notes.

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<v Speaker 1>So now over the next couple days, I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>finish up some corners and linebackers. That's all I got left,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I've got to take all these notes from

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<v Speaker 1>there and I got to pump them into the Excel

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<v Speaker 1>sheet and condense it, condense it down. So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>being in college. Man, it's like having a final. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your term paper that's due here, coming up

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday. But it's fun. They pay us for this, believe.

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<v Speaker 2>It, they do. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that was fun again. We'll have Buck back

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<v Speaker 1>with us. I guess we'll circle back with Bucky next

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<v Speaker 1>week when you get him back in the mix out

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<v Speaker 1>there at the combine. So appreciate you guys, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time. Right here upon, move the sticks