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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to move the Sticks, DJ and Rhett with you.

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Speaker 1: Bucky is uh, he is out. He is at the

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Speaker 1: HBCU Bowl, So he's doing some good work there and

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Speaker 1: checking out some of those players. And we'll have an

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Speaker 1: But today, Rhett, I mean, it's a pretty simple one.

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Speaker 1: We've got a new mock draft that's out, which I

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Speaker 1: will say I am excited because I thought the reaction

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Speaker 1: to the first one somewhat team timid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so much so that. I mean, you send out

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Speaker 2: a post last night where you had a member of

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Speaker 2: the household, you know, kind of wondering like that, are

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Speaker 2: we gonna up the ante here a little bit? We're

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Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna put in some rage bait into this.

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Speaker 2: I never heard that.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's a term I had never heard. It

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Speaker 1: struck me as so funny. Yeah, my son is he's

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Speaker 1: he's seventeen years old, and I've this is what happens.

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Speaker 1: So give you a little peek behind the curtain. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So I was like, I just got to get a

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Speaker 1: new I got to get a different view for the day.

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Speaker 1: So I went and sat in there. So he's just playing,

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Speaker 1: he's playing college football with his friend online or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and I go, oh, well, I just just knocked out

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Speaker 1: the mock draft. Got that one's done. He goes, you

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Speaker 1: put some good rage bait in there, like, wait, what

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Speaker 1: do you need to start marketing for me? I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I did on purpose at least.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, surely as we get closer and as

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Speaker 2: more people get to consume this mock draft, which of

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Speaker 2: course is out now on NFL dot com, I yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like that's kind of what you know. Social

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Speaker 1: So I was on the lookout for rage. My rage

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Speaker 1: I look at some of the comments. I saw some rage.

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Speaker 1: I was like, apparently there was a rage bit in there.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know it. You ready to rip into it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the first five with a quick thought

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Speaker 1: to you to give me some some feedback here. First off,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, first pick. I was talking to some folks

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Speaker 1: and not with direct information. But the same theme kept

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Speaker 1: And with a plethora of needs, like do you really

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Speaker 1: But they're where they are in their process. That was

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Speaker 2: more that abdual Carter makes complete sense. Right here, go

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he came out there and said he's going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And then quickly on Travis Hunter, I

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Speaker 2: totally understand that selection there, but I would also say, like,

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Speaker 1: That in the bud though. Yeah, they could have nipped

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Speaker 2: And as it stands now, would certainly love to see

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Speaker 2: Just take they got to have it. Love love Mason

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Speaker 1: Can I give him. I put my my thought on

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Speaker 1: Mason though, is that he is one of my candidates,

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Speaker 1: Or or or are they Let's let's go thirteen personnel.

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Speaker 1: backs aren't the issue. I think they've got three quality

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Speaker 2: And look, they have not had major production at the

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Speaker 2: Sam Laporta did for that offense in Detroit too. You know,

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Speaker 2: I can't do everything that that Warren does.

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Speaker 1: But it's a bit, it's a it's a bite your

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Speaker 2: Oh with that question, you know, Yeah, if you're trying

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Speaker 2: there in that in that franchise, that's a winner. Pick

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's why I went there, Carolina. I even

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Speaker 1: The nice thing you know, it sucks when you have

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Speaker 2: Trying to drop in a championship team player too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think with with them, I think trying

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Speaker 1: I do think there is something to that. You know,

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Speaker 1: this defense could take a major step forward next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And I look at the defense that lost Frankie Luvu, right,

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Speaker 2: it up. That would certainly make sense. Your next one, though,

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Speaker 1: So the next one probably the earliest you've seen Mike

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Speaker 1: So it feels like D line's a way they could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. And again that also feels like

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Speaker 2: And do you feel good enough about Trevor Penning at

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Speaker 2: knowing the issues that Ryan Ramcheck has had, and so

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Speaker 2: also kind of curious DJ, you know, because and I

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Speaker 1: Well that was that was pre seniorble too. That's so

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Speaker 1: He got he got a little bump, he got a

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Speaker 1: of what that was. And we'll see what happens with Pierce.

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Speaker 1: You know, teams get a chance to visit with him

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Speaker 1: But the Mike Green bump, really we see it every year.

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Speaker 2: Teaser another Toledo defensive player. And how about that, I

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Speaker 2: know we'll get there. How about let's get to number

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Speaker 2: ten Chicago Kelvin Banks. Offensive line wise, I know interiors

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Speaker 2: I think he's personally an upgrade form at tackle. But

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Speaker 1: Saw and and how many how many of those guys

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Speaker 1: he can play anywhere along the offensive line. Jurgen's started

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. All right, let's do five more and

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go all the way up there. Nonetheless, that

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Speaker 2: simulcams and all that stuff on NFL Network. But for

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Speaker 2: a player like that, it actually can be a real

434
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Speaker 2: positive metric depending on where we see that long speed.

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Speaker 1: It's the corners, and I'll say this is the comment

436
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 1: every year, corners the forty matters more than any other position.

437
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Speaker 1: And now the overall importance of the forty has diminished

438
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Speaker 1: greatly because the GPS information that we have, but it's

439
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Speaker 1: still at that position. It carries weight, so we'll see there.

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Speaker 1: But I had him going to the Niners. Walter Nolan

441
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Speaker 1: a little bit higher than I had him, But this

442
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Speaker 1: is ODIGAZOOA is a free agent, and so I'm like, Okay, well,

443
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Speaker 1: who's an upfield disruptor and that's that's Walter Nolan from

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Speaker 1: Old miss thirteen. Miami's got to get better along the

445
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Speaker 1: offensive line, especially in the interior. Tyler Booker, I love

446
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Speaker 1: him as a player. I think he's one of the

447
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Speaker 1: safest guys out of Alabama. Membo from Missouri going to

448
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Speaker 1: the Colts. He could start it right tackle when Braden

449
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: Smith's days are done, he can start at guard until that's.

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Speaker 2: A great versattle piece there.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really really good player. And then fifteen the Falcons,

452
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Speaker 1: I just why not pass rusher? Got to throw a

453
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Speaker 1: pass there? Every year they never take one, but why

454
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Speaker 1: not not going to be deterred RTT Gonna keep trying

455
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Speaker 1: until they eventually do.

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Speaker 2: At some point, we're gonna make that thing work. And

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Speaker 2: it does feel like this is a really good draft

458
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Speaker 2: to find that match and look at fifteen to feel

459
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Speaker 2: like you got a good one. I mean, look at

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Speaker 2: where the Rams got versed last year, right, I mean,

461
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Speaker 2: like this is you're gonna You're gonna be in a

462
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Speaker 2: good spot right there to get a really good, impactful

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Speaker 2: player off the edge to make that work for Rhem Morris.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, on the Rams, I was talking

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Speaker 1: with somebody this morning and brought up a great point

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Speaker 1: on the Rams, which will you know what, I'll put

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Speaker 1: a pin in that because I'll we'll get them. I'll

468
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Speaker 1: do that when we get to the Rams. But there's

469
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Speaker 1: a nugget on them that I love. But I told

470
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Speaker 1: you that was the interesting part of the draft, and

471
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Speaker 1: that was where the thing really got going, was there

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Speaker 1: at six with the Raiders. So that's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the top part there. That's the wrap for the lead

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Speaker 1: mock draft right for this all right, right, let's keep

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Speaker 1: it rolling here. Sixteen through twenty sixteen Arizona Cardinals Kenneth

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Speaker 1: Grant it just to me, it's like the talent is

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Speaker 1: there and then having somebody that you can just plug

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Speaker 1: right into that defense. I got some other interesting pieces there,

483
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Speaker 1: but overall, defensively for Arizona they were twenty eighth third

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Speaker 1: down defense, twenty fifth in yards per carry, twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: or twenty sixth the pressure rate. So defensively is where

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Speaker 1: you focus, and I think you get a lot of

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Speaker 1: help there with Kenneth Grant.

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Speaker 2: How do you view knowing the way that Jonathan the

489
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Speaker 2: Ganannon runs, you know, runs that defense and how they

490
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Speaker 2: want to run it in Arizona, Like, how do you

491
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Speaker 2: view Grant? Like can you play him as a nose?

492
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Speaker 2: Can you play him out? Can you move him out

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Speaker 2: a little bit? You know and play him over the guard?

494
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Speaker 2: Like how do you see where he fits in there?

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Speaker 1: Well, when I look at him, you know, one of

496
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Speaker 1: the comps, it's kind of interesting of what he can be.

497
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Speaker 1: I know, Dexter Lawrence is the name that I've mentioned before.

498
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Speaker 1: That's what you're hoping, you know, he could somehow get

499
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Speaker 1: to that level. Would be incredible, would be insane. But

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Speaker 1: you got somebody that I think can play the nose,

501
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Speaker 1: can handle that. But I also think someone who you

502
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Speaker 1: can move around on pass downs, Like if you go

503
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Speaker 1: back to the Albert Hainsworth years when he was with

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Speaker 1: Tennessee and Vandenbosch and they used to flip them. They

505
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Speaker 1: used to let Van den Bosch rush over the guard

506
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Speaker 1: and they would let him Hainesworth rush out over the

507
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Speaker 1: edge where I'm just envisioning you could have some fun

508
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Speaker 1: if you gave him a runway at three hundred and

509
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Speaker 1: forty pounds. I think right now he helps the run game.

510
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Speaker 1: Right now, he's your nose, he's stacked, and he can

511
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Speaker 1: take on doubles all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Darius, I think it starts to show up a little

513
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Speaker 2: bit too there.

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Speaker 1: With Darius Robinson plays off him, you know who can

515
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Speaker 1: really get upfield. So I think it would be a

516
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Speaker 1: fun piece there for them to play with. We get

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Speaker 1: keep it going here at seventeen one of my favorite

518
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Speaker 1: players in the draft and Jaday I got to get it,

519
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: Jaday Jedi. I'm going to figure that out before we

520
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Speaker 1: get there. Baron from Texas had a fun discussion with

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Speaker 1: a buddy in the league the other day about him

522
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Speaker 1: because he was like, well, I just don't know if

523
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Speaker 1: he could hold up outside at outside, at corner. I

524
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Speaker 1: have my concerns there and I said, well, he is

525
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Speaker 1: a dominant, dominant nickel, like he is outstanding in coverage.

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Speaker 1: He makes a ton of plays on the football and oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he does not miss tackles. So then

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Speaker 1: start thinking about it, and we're going to do something

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Speaker 1: on this at the combine. Think about some of the

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Speaker 1: teams in the in the tournament, some of the teams

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Speaker 1: that were some of the last teams in the tournament.

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Speaker 2: Let's go with.

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Speaker 1: And I know they used him differently this year, but

534
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Speaker 1: McDuffie is at his best when he's in that nickels spot,

535
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Speaker 1: in the nickels on a great defense. Cooper dejen on

536
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Speaker 1: the team that just won the Super Bowl, dominant nickel

537
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Speaker 1: the Ravens when they put Hamilton and moved him down there,

538
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Speaker 1: Look how that changed their their defense. He can play

539
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Speaker 1: back at safety, he can do everything. He actually went

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Speaker 1: from front to back and their defense even got better.

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Speaker 1: But to me, he's someone who has that skill set

542
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Speaker 1: to be an impact player down low. I look at

543
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Speaker 1: Irwin James for the Charters, a playoff team, dominant player

544
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Speaker 1: in that big nickel role. Whether the size, you know,

545
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: big Nickel, Reagannickel, whatever you have it. Almost every defense

546
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Speaker 1: has had an impact player that can play in that spot.

547
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Speaker 1: So I told him this was the point that I

548
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Speaker 1: made is I was like, look, the rest of the league,

549
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Speaker 1: the rest of the league blew it on Branch and

550
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Speaker 1: on Degene and allowed those guys to fall in the

551
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Speaker 1: draft and watch them take off. I can't imagine the

552
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Speaker 1: league is going to be this dumb. Three years, you know,

553
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Speaker 1: three years in a row doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too good. Yep. Yeah, Now this is a team.

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Speaker 2: This kind of reminds me a little bit of where

556
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Speaker 2: Tampa was before they went to the Super Bowl. They've

557
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Speaker 2: spent some resources now on the defensive backfield in recent drafts.

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Speaker 2: Right second rounder on Dj Turner, second rounder on Cam

559
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Speaker 2: Taylor Britt, the third rounder on Jordan Battle. But the

560
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Speaker 2: point is like, you keep swinging right until you find

561
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Speaker 2: that impactful.

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Speaker 1: Dude and their Nickels gone, He'll Mike Hill. So that's

563
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Speaker 1: kind of the thing that makes a lot. But again,

564
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Speaker 1: and the other thing is defensive tackle needs to be addressed.

565
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Speaker 1: But I think they I think their next pick is

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Speaker 1: forty two. I have that right here. Their next pick

567
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Speaker 1: for Cincinnati is forty nine. They can get ad tackle

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Speaker 1: at forty nine this draft is.

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Speaker 2: In this draft yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's where I had them going. Uh, Seattle

571
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Speaker 1: dressed the interior of the offensive line. I wish Gray

572
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: is able could clone himself, but he takes care of

573
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Speaker 1: one of those positions somewhere. Yeah, it's a big one

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Speaker 1: for him. Uh. And then I've got McMillan, Ted McMillan

575
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Speaker 1: from Arizona, the big wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Baby. Look, he could go.

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Speaker 1: He could go in the top ten easy. But I

578
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Speaker 1: also think there's so many teams looking to address Biggs

579
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Speaker 1: early in this draft that I think there's a chance

580
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Speaker 1: he could slip a little bit. And that's the scenario

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Speaker 1: that I ran through here.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And with Tampa with Chris Godwin, a free agent Mike

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans there with a bigger frame. Yeah, you get

585
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Speaker 1: somebody that that Baker likes playing with this style of receiver.

586
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Speaker 1: And then with Denver, I gave him the joker that

587
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Speaker 1: they appear are wanting there, and that's that's a very

588
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Speaker 1: talented tight end Coulston Levin. I almost flipped it and

589
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Speaker 1: went Colston levelin to the Jets up there, Like if

590
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Speaker 1: you told me Colston Lovelan went in the top ten,

591
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I think he's one of the

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Speaker 1: ten best players in the draft.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting to me. So like that could actually

594
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Speaker 2: end up being closer with Warren and Loveland. Obviously still

595
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Speaker 2: giving the nod to Warren and number at the first

596
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Speaker 2: tight end all I.

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Speaker 1: Gave him the same grade. Right, they're totally They're totally

598
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Speaker 1: different stylistically, right. But that's why I did that whole

599
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Speaker 1: tweet the other day about you've got the Gronk tree

600
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Speaker 1: and the Kelsey Tree, and there's some hybrids, but you know,

601
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Speaker 1: you try and say which one of these guys is it?

602
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: And with Warren you get the seam runner. Keep him

603
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Speaker 1: on the move. He's a rolling billboard down the seam.

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Speaker 1: He obviously does his stuff in the run game. He's

605
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Speaker 1: going to be more physicality after the catch than make

606
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Speaker 1: a miss. And then the Gronk tree, and then you

607
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Speaker 1: get leveland from the Kelsey tree, you want to run

608
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: option routes, choice routes, whip routes, get in and out.

609
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Speaker 1: You can split him out wide, let him run routes

610
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Speaker 1: out there, and he's going to make you miss after

611
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Speaker 1: the catch. So think he's got realistically too, like oh yeah, yeah,

612
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Speaker 1: but they're there stylistically as how you will use them

613
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: in terms of route running are polar opposite, but I

614
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Speaker 1: do think they both have an edge to them to

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Speaker 1: your point, yes, yeah, so, uh that's what I had there.

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Speaker 2: That was like that. I mean the elevation for Zabel,

617
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: I just again speaks to opportunity and and you know,

618
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Speaker 2: taking advantage of it at the Senior Bowl, like I

619
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Speaker 2: just if not, if not for the Senior Bowl. Do

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Speaker 2: you think we're still talking about Gray Zabel as the

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Speaker 2: eighteenth player off the board here?

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Speaker 1: No, because I think you just wonder how he would

623
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Speaker 1: have done against the competition. You don't have won anymore.

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Speaker 2: Bottom of the first maybe top of the site. But yeah,

625
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Speaker 2: there there he goes at eighteen. Good for him and

626
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks are going to be very happy to be

627
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Speaker 2: able to have a player like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, it's time for Hot or Not, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage, because this

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Speaker 1: internet streets. When I put this one out there a

632
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Speaker 1: lot of reactions on this next pick. The Pittsburgh Steelers

633
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Speaker 1: taking Ashton Genty running back from Boise and State.

634
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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I think we've seen

635
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: enough of what this offense looks like with Najee Harris

636
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Speaker 2: and it's not a needle mover. And I think this

637
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Speaker 2: this moves the needle. I'm actually getting a chance. And

638
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: we've talked to Spencer Danielson, his head coach, you know

639
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: here on Move the Sticks a couple of times. I remember,

640
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Speaker 2: you know, listening to him as a defensive coach, right

641
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 2: before he was elevated to the intermad coach and like understanding,

642
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: all right, as a defensive guy, like when did you

643
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: notice Ashton Genty, Like when he got to camp, when

644
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: he was like, oh I noticed it in the spring.

645
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Speaker 2: You know, they're ripped off an eighty yard run against

646
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Speaker 2: the number one defense and it wasn't particularly close and

647
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Speaker 2: it was like no, okay, yeah, still, like you know,

648
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 2: you know, for a guy who rushes for you know,

649
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: twenty six hundred yards, you know, including the playoffs in

650
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: college football, Like I think you're you're forecasting a guy

651
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: who can be a bell cow type and just to me,

652
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: fits perfectly with what Pittsburgh want. Major work ethic, major toughness,

653
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: incredible dude, and a really talented player in the backfield.

654
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: That's going to make a lot of sense.

655
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get all the toughness in the physicality, but

656
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: then you get the home run ability. To me, it's

657
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: like if the two backs that they had had a

658
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: baby's it gives you the Jalen Warrang juice, and it

659
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: gives you the power that you had with Najie Harris

660
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: all on one guy, and I just think he matches

661
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh beautifully. A little many many run here on running

662
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: backs at a maryin Hampton going next to the Chargers

663
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: and again thinking playmakers not positions and just saying, Okay,

664
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: they need speed, they need dynamic players offensively to surround with.

665
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: Lad McConkey in that to me, when I stack him

666
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: up and like he's the most dynamic skill player that's

667
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: there at this time.

668
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: I loved watching him against Florida State, Like, I mean

669
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: the way he's got some vision now too to get

670
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: through there, and then when he gets when he busts out,

671
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: like not only does he have that kind of like

672
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: game breaking, playmaking type of skill, but he's got some

673
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: shock absorbers too, Like those guys coming to take kill

674
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: shots on him from the side and just kind of,

675
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of absorbs and continues on. That's

676
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: how you you know, that's what you're talking about when

677
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: you go from twelve to thirty two in term, twelve

678
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: yards to thirty two to fifty two yards in a run,

679
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: when you can get past that third level.

680
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: He's going to be at the combine around two hundred

681
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds. He's going to run in the

682
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: mid four fours, and he's going to have six percent

683
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: body fat. Come on, come on, you're going to start

684
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: hearing a lot more. You're going to start hearing a

685
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: lot more about a mari and Hampton. Is the point

686
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm making here, all right, let's keep it rolling here.

687
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers Josh Simmons, who if he's clean

688
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: and healthy and finishes out the years, no chance he's

689
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 1: there at this point in time. But he's someone I

690
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: think can be or he can be or left tackle

691
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: of the future. But he can also you know, play

692
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: any of the other spots. He's really really good feet,

693
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: he can bend, so I had him go to Green Bay.

694
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: Feels like their style of guy. The next one I

695
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: do want to spend a little time on here, and

696
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: this is going to kind of wrap up our little

697
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: hot or not section here because this is another one

698
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: that got a little bit of buzz on the streets here.

699
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: Trayvon Henderson go into the Minnesota Vikings.

700
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean it's like Dalvin Cook comes back in

701
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: the form of an absolute home run hitter at the

702
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 2: running back spot. And that's I think what we all

703
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: saw in the college football playoff each was this. This

704
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: dude absolutely gets after it and I would love to

705
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: see what he could do. That's a pretty dang good

706
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: offensive line when healthy now too, so like he's going

707
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: to have some opportunities like that almost feels like that

708
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: almost feels like in like an Eagles light type of

709
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: running game with what Trayveon could do. Like he's not Saquon,

710
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: we get it, but that offensive line maybe not quite

711
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: as good as Philly, But like again, if you're trying

712
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: to find some similarities and some pathways to success, like

713
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: that feels like a great way to support whoever your

714
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: quarterback is. They're in Minnesota this year. I really like

715
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: that pairing of Trayveon to Minnesota and in the style

716
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: in which they run again in which they want to,

717
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: you know, execute run game like that makes a lot.

718
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: Of sense to him who took the division away from

719
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: him last year at the end of the year.

720
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: Away from the Vikings. Yeah, the Detroit Lions.

721
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do the Detroit Lions have a running back

722
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: when we have an up close view to see in

723
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: that one? Yeah, they saw what that? And and by

724
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: the way, back when when you had Randy Moss and

725
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Chris Carter and that dynamic passing, who did they run back?

726
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: He can run a little bit, little jeez. So this

727
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: is a blast to the past here. So I just

728
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: I love that fit. That's what got a little spicy there.

729
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: But you laid down the case as well as as

730
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: I could have right there. I'm a big fan of that.

731
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Speaker 1: would create a little bit, Let's let's finish this up

736
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Speaker 1: here a Mecca Buka. He gets reunited with his college

737
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: quarterback C J. Stroud Houston. I wrote down in there

738
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: like to me, you have a cerebral quarterback. Now you

739
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: have someone who's a cerebral receiver who he has history with,

740
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: who's just a pros pro.

741
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: He just what did they hit?

742
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: What did they hit on?

743
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: They hit on?

744
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: Will Anderson pro like, just a pro c. J. Stroud

745
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: is a pro like. You're starting to build that culture.

746
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: It's the image of Demico Ryans. That's what Demiko Ryans was,

747
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: just professional in every which way, is a player and

748
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: as a coach. So I love that match there with

749
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: the Texans. All right, this is the one you tease

750
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: this a little earlier about the Rams. Darius Alexander, big,

751
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: long rangey athletic. You watch if you want to have

752
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: some fun, just go watch some of his cutups and

753
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: watch some of the plays that he makes incredible, including

754
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: a pick six. But the Rams best young defensive line

755
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I feel confident saying that just in

756
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: terms of the young guys that they have so many

757
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: of them. And I had some people say, well, they

758
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: already are good at defensive line, why would they take

759
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: another one? Well, my answer is, again reference a team

760
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: that just won it. You can't have enough. He just

761
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: keeps stacking them. And this was the point that was

762
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: brought up to me by a mutual friend of ours.

763
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: This is the rams nug, which was, uh, where is it? Hare,

764
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: let me find it? Pull it up. It is right here, okay. Uh.

765
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: If you look at a lot of their front seven

766
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: picks from the last few years, they have something in common.

767
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: They were small school transfers and players who were doubted.

768
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: Think about Kobe, was it Richmond? You know? First Fisk

769
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: Byron Young. Byron Young came Georgia Military. I mean like

770
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: he worked at the you know, he was just doing

771
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: blue collar work. And these guys have and that's how

772
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: they kind of play. So let's go to the Mac

773
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: and let's go get another one of these angry dudes

774
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: that didn't get treated properly.

775
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. That's that makes a

776
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me. And we saw this dude

777
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl as well and did not disappoint

778
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: he is. He is a guy that fits right in

779
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: with like the havoc that that group reeks on the

780
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: off on the defensive front for Chris Shula and Sean McVay,

781
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: and like that is they would I mean, you'd be sick.

782
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: I do not want to be sitting around in the

783
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: NFC West, having to deal with that group twice a year.

784
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: Let's just be yeah.

785
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: But now, one thing I did, I have to confirm

786
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: his age because I was told that he's a little

787
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: bit older.

788
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: So I'll, uh, yeah, he got in. I mean his

789
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: first year at college was twenty nineteen.

790
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's going to be a little bit older,

791
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: which that could end up some teams have issues with that,

792
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: that could slight him down. But as a player, I

793
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: think he's he's in that border line there.

794
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: But as an alternate, you're you. You would not be

795
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: shocked to see an offensive lineman come off the board

796
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: here for the Rams right.

797
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: A left tackle. But I just here's my thing, and

798
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: I've got the Chiefs taking one here in a minute.

799
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: But usually the tackles you get at the bottom of

800
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: the first round, you'll leave your wanting a little bit

801
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: more because it's such a premium position. It's so hard

802
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: to find. They all go real high, and so you

803
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: almost in some ways, if you don't get one at

804
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: the top of the first round, you almost better off

805
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: just taking a flyer maybe on someone on Day two

806
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: at some point in time. It's just a that's a

807
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: theory and a thought that's out there. The Ravens Shamar Stewart, Hey,

808
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: what do you know, have we ever seen them take

809
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: an explosive ed rusher who for years we always talked about.

810
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: The Ravens were obsessed with production at pass with pass rushers.

811
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: That was Ozzy's thing. The Jason Oway they went, they

812
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: went away from that. Jason Oway has been a good

813
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: player for him. Shamar Stewart again, just big, long, physical, fast,

814
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: He kind of plays hard. Reminded me of a Raven

815
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: type player. Detroit Donovan Jackson who can slide right in

816
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: and replace Zeidler who's a free agent. And then Washington

817
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: Jahad Campbell. I'm curious we see at the combine. I

818
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: know he's you know, he's played off the ball primarily,

819
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: but they let him rush a little bit. And I

820
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: was really intrigued by watching him rush and then I

821
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: do the background on him to figure out, oh, this

822
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: guy was an edge rusher in high school. They moved

823
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: him off the ball at Alabama because they had two

824
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: first round ed rush Dallas Carter and uh yeah, Dallas Dallas,

825
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and Will Anderson. So I mean that Wash

826
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: that was kind of a no brainer there in terms

827
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: of just I think it's a chess piece, an explosive,

828
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: dynamic player for for dan Quinn, Matthew Golden, one of

829
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: my favorites in the draft or sever out of Texas.

830
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: He goes to Buffalo. Again, they have a lot of

831
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: defensive needs there in Buffalo that would lead you to

832
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: believe they could go in that direction. But this one

833
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: was just this one was too fun, you know, for

834
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: a team last year that defensively, I mean again, you

835
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: can go through all the different holes, but you got

836
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: a Mark Cooper is a free agent. I figured this

837
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: is a nice one to plug in there.

838
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: If if Derek Harmon were to get into the first round,

839
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: could you see that as a spot for him.

840
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Again, when I look at

841
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: their defensive stuff, they were twenty ninth and third downs

842
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: last year, so getting better, and that department twenty fourth

843
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: and passing yards per game.

844
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: Defensive much longer. Does Von Miller want to play? I

845
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: don't think.

846
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how much. If we see him this year,

847
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: it would be a question. I mentioned it teased that

848
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: Josh Connor and the tackle goes to the Kansas City Chiefs.

849
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Everybody's going to focus on the one bad rep against

850
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: Mike Green at the Senior Bowl where he got flat backed.

851
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad the whole week.

852
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 2: I don't.

853
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm not quite as high on him as some other

854
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: people are. But if you're if you're desperate in watching that,

855
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl would lead you to believe they're pretty

856
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: desperate to upgrade the left tackle position. Josh Connor to me,

857
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: connorly to me a much better player than Sue Mattia

858
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: coming out of b YU.

859
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: Who they Yeah, you've got to win there.

860
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: You got an upgrade. And then finally the Philadelphia Eagles,

861
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: after all this talk and bluster from yours truly about

862
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Speaker 1: offensive line and defensive line, I'm taking a safety, uh.

863
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Speaker 2: But from Georgia.

864
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Malachi starks Is is an interesting one. He's

865
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: he's someone that is still you know, he's a young player.

866
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Speaker 1: He's played a lot of football, and he's impactful right

867
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Speaker 1: when he got on the field there at Georgia. Oh,

868
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: by the way, another Georgia Bulldog for Howie Roseman. Yeah,

869
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Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna be even better as we

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Speaker 1: as we go along here in his career. I think

871
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Speaker 1: the Eagles have the luxury of drafting for two years

872
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Speaker 1: from now and not having year one.

873
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Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it too. And you know,

874
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: I think as you put like a he kind of

875
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: put this whole thing into context, Like this simulation that

876
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: you've put together here speaks to the identity of this draft.

877
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: Like it's a little bit of a gritty draft. Right.

878
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: You've got you've got four interior defensive linemen going here,

879
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: You've got two off the ball backers. You've got three

880
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: running backs and two tight ends. Right, I mean this

881
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: fee feels like a big, physical draft. And you know,

882
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: we're not going to see an incredible run on receivers

883
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: and and maybe not even you know, on corners. I

884
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: think there's only three dbs when we I mean four

885
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Speaker 2: depending on how we're going to classify Travis Hunter. So

886
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Speaker 2: I think it's it's a really good kind of lesson

887
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 2: to learn about where this draft class sits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean three of my top seven players are

889
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: two tight ends and a running back. Yeah, I know,

890
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Speaker 1: in the draft like on the top fifty. So that's

891
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Speaker 1: that's kind of where we are, all right, there you

892
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: have it, right, this was a fun one man kind

893
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Speaker 1: of jumped in.

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Speaker 2: Great. Yeah, great, great food for thought with that, with

895
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: that mock draft, and obviously it's it's a little more

896
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: than food for thought. I know there's some there's some

897
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: buzz in there, and there's some there's some talk around

898
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: the league in there too, which is all it's interesting

899
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Speaker 2: to see how it works.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. We'll hope you guys have enjoyed this.

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Speaker 1: Later this week we'll have the conference call. So I

902
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Speaker 1: do a conference call a bunch of media folks, so

903
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Speaker 1: we'll answer a lot of draft questions on.

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Speaker 2: Have you watched the Canadian players yet?

905
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Speaker 1: I have a list of Canadian Well, I've usually I've

906
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Speaker 1: already seen them. I've seen elers online guys. Yes, And

907
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: then what happens is I just have Jack give me

908
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Speaker 1: the actual names of the Canadian guys, and then I've

909
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: put them all my notes to the side. So this

910
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Speaker 1: is inside a look inside my process. I watch everything.

911
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: I've already got my top fifty reports written. Everything else

912
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: is in a notebook, you know, in terms of taking notes.

913
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Speaker 1: So now over the next couple days, I've got to

914
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Speaker 1: finish up some corners and linebackers. That's all I got left,

915
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: and then I've got to take all these notes from

916
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Speaker 1: there and I got to pump them into the Excel

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Speaker 1: sheet and condense it, condense it down. So it's like

918
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Speaker 1: being in college. Man, it's like having a final. You know,

919
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: you got your term paper that's due here, coming up

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. But it's fun. They pay us for this, believe.

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Speaker 2: It, they do. It's awesome.

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Speaker 1: All right, that was fun again. We'll have Buck back

923
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Speaker 1: with us. I guess we'll circle back with Bucky next

924
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: week when you get him back in the mix out

925
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Speaker 1: there at the combine. So appreciate you guys, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. Right here upon, move the sticks