1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Day, those days of soda and batsos and Ron Andanian. Listen, 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: it's that time of year again. Well this is you know, 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: this is where car guys we all sort of start 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: to phone with the mouth and we get excited because 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: you know, it's cruising season and it's car show season. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor. There's that emotional attachment to cars. Everybody remembers. 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: It's the first date, the first car, the first you 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: know whatever, the first time you drove. I remember one 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: and that first time going down the highway. I mean, 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: my god, it was like it was like I was 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: sailing the Queen Mary across the Atlantic. Welcome to the 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron Andanian The Car Doctor. This is 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If you're mechanics giving you a 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: busy pick up the phone and call in the garage. 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Do orders are open, but I am here to take 17 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: your calls at eight five five five six, and now 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: the only prespicion he running. Hey, start your engines. Hello 19 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: and welcome Ron and any in the Car Doctor. Here 20 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: this Memorial Day weekend edition of The Car Doctor. We're 21 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: live always at eight five five five zero nine zero 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: zero here to take your calls and answer your questions 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: about your automobile, whatever they might be. Um, we followed 24 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: the prescription here that there is no car problem unrepaarable. 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: Everything will be sorted out. Every car can be restored 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: back to working in proper order. It just takes some 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: thought process and some diagnostics, and um, it doesn't take 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: a parts shotgun. So stop throwing parts at your car. 29 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. And uh, saw whatever you've got 30 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: going on? Fender defender and door to door. I see 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: the staff is here. Happy Memorial Day weekend too. I 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't say Happy Memorial Day weekend. I apologize, you know, 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: I think about Uncle Steve. Right, Uncle Steve has gone now, 34 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: he's he passed last year this time. Um, Uncle Steve 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: was my great uncle. For those of you that are 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: new to the show, he was a fifty one fighter 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: pilot in the Second World War and we used to 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: have him on from time to time, and it was 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: it was a great thing, uh, you know, to talk 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: about what Memorial Day is and was really about, because 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: it's not about the barbecue. It's not about the trip 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: down the shore. If you're near the shore, it's not 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: about the weekend getaway. Um. Uncle Steve always said, and 44 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: I believe this that he's I still think about this. 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: I believe he's right to this day, that Memorial Day 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: is a solemn observation of of of of what it 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: meant to get us here as an independent nation and 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: the sacrifices that are our our our fighting forces have made. Yes, Tom, 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: it's because of guys like Uncle Steve that we can 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: go to the beach and have the barbecue to right right. 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to be cliche this year. I 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: was looking on Facebook yesterday and this morning and someone 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: had that we've all seen that that video about you know, 54 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: you get your day at the beach because of their 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: day at the beach, and it was footage of the 56 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, the Norman d invasion D Day and so 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: many other invasions like it. And you know, it's it's 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: the contrast of the French coastline today with with beach 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: goers and the French coastline and in in in forty four, 60 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: June six anniversary is coming up, by the way, and um, 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: you know what that was about. And you look at 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: the insanity that's around us today of of how we 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: perceive freedom. But I don't want to go there. This 64 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: is a car show. UM. I just want to suffice 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: it to say that, uh, you know what it's it's 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: it's it's a soleimn day. Let's be thankful we have 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: people that step up and take care of us then 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: and now, and we'll move the day forward. I want 69 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: to talk to you about the shop a little bit, 70 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: we UM before we open up the phone lines. I 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: have I have an interesting story to kind of switch gears. 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: If I may UM two thousand six. Ford Focus came 73 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: into the shop this week. And this follows my prescription 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: that there's no car out there that can't be fixed. 75 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: It just takes some thought. And the problem was the idol, 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: the check engine light was on. The RPM was higher 77 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: than expected. The RPM would surge anywhere from eleven pm 78 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: all the way up the PM. It was so bad 79 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: at times that when ripped that's the owner's name, UM 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: would tell me that you would get to a stop sign. 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes the idol would be at three grand and it 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: would drag you through the stop sign right it would 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: override the brakes. Consequently, I know why the brake rotors 84 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: pulse because they've got to be overheated. It's just incredible. 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Um and you know he bought the car that way. 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Two or three mechanics have looked at it, and you 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: know another Star Wars Obi Wan Kenobi moment helped me. 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: Obi Wan, You're my only hope. Right, So I went 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: through diagnostics. That had a pzero five oh seven, which 90 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: is idle rpm higher than expected. And I went through 91 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the diagnostic routine. Well, it had a parts shotgun used. 92 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: Somebody went up to it with a pile of parts. 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: They had thrown a throttle body at it. They threw 94 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: an idol air control motor at it. They you know, 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: it looked like had changed some other things that were 96 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: completely unnecessary to it. But I guess any part under 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: the hood that could fix a problem that might somehow 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: be related, Sure, why not, let's just throw that at 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: the cartel. My first step was the focus on a 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: problem like this is what are we chasing. We're chasing 101 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: a higher than normal idle speed. What makes a car 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: run higher air? Right, they can feed it all the 103 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: fuel they want, it's not gonna raise in lower idle speed. 104 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Oxygen and how that's added to that mix is going 105 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: to raise in lower idle speed. Look what happens when 106 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: you fan of fire, right, you fan a fireplace, the 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: logs will go from that dull, you know, smoky fire 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: to a bright orange white hot. It increases its ferocity. 109 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Same thing with a car. You put more air into 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: the mix, you put more oxygen into the mix. It 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: combines with the fuel, and in this case of a car, 112 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: the computer can look at you know, injection trim and 113 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: raising lower fuel delivery and and raising lower idle speed. 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: So we're looking for an air leak somehow. Well, I 115 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: ran through a fuel trim. Fuel trim was dead nuts 116 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: on the money, didn't change one bit. It was right 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: where it was supposed to be. It was running like 118 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: two long term long term, almost one percent short term. 119 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: It was right there. It was fine. Well, I don't 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: think we have any vacuum leaks at idle row finals, 121 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: So I don't think that's the issue. I think we've 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: got a control problem. I unplugged the idolair control motor 123 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: and there was no change. And that's part of the diagnosis. 124 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: If you unplugged the idolair control motor, it should go 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: into default and it should run and resort back to 126 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 1: its base sinal M took the idol Are control motor off, 127 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: noticed that there was some apoxy glue or something like. 128 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: The guy was gonna glue the motor to the to 129 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: the throttle body to like you know, I guess the 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: gasket wasn't enough. And you know, the gasket on this 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: particular cars is one of those rubbery elastomer elastometer. It 132 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: was a rubber gasket that um Ford uses and it's 133 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: it's a it's a reusable gasket actually, and they worked 134 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: really well. I've never had one be a problem. I'm 135 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: not saying that it can't be, but why you would 136 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: glue this thing up snotted up with a little RTV 137 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: or glue or whatever it was. It don make any sense. 138 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: So I said, you know, and I could see that 139 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: it was stuck. It was stuck partially open, and I 140 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: couldn't get it to move. So to me, bad Iak 141 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: put the i AK on and right away the idle 142 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: RPM is normal. Well look at that, I fix them. 143 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: I took it out down the road. All of a 144 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: sudden I find myself approaching the first traffic light and 145 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: the RPM is stuck at three thousand rpm. I'm like, huh, 146 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: wait a minute, and my dreaming like, what's going on here? 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: Put the car neutral, brought it down, shut it off 148 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: with back to the shop, and I thought about this 149 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: for a second. Let me see, so frattle body checked 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: out right, minimum idle speed checked out right. I have 151 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: control because when I plugged in the new I AQ, 152 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I unplugged it and there was a difference in idle 153 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: RPM right away. It didn't change or it changed like 154 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: it was supposed to. What am I missing? And then 155 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: I remembered that sometimes it's not putting things together, it's 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: how you put things together. And I've always said that, 157 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, just having assembly doesn't count proper assembly. As 158 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I have a sign in the 159 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: office of the shop that talks about um doing things, 160 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: doing things correct on a regular basis ensures correct response. 161 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: It says doing things correctly on a regular basis insures 162 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: correct response. So it's not it's not perfect, it's not 163 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: practice makes perfect, it's perfect. Practice makes perfect. I said, 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if the idle air control motors on backwards, 165 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: because it would it could be on backwards, and it's conceivable. 166 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: I've seen it on a few forward products that you 167 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: can actually have the idle air control motor on upside down, 168 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: and you think about it. Now, instead of having the 169 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: control plunger and metered air change on that side of 170 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: the throttle body, you've got it on the other side 171 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: of the throttle body, and it would make it's The 172 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: computer would go nuts trying to control idle speed, but 173 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: it wouldn't do it until it came off idle, which 174 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: is why it idled find in the shop and didn't 175 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: go nuts until I got it out on the road. 176 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: I went looking. Sure enough, there's the bulletin which I 177 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: remembered seeing. I mean, isn't no six I saw this 178 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: ten years ago. Took the idol idol or control motor off, 179 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: flipped it around, started up, went around the block three times. 180 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: Cars fixed. He was stunned. He said, I gotta tell you, 181 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I bought this car, and I think I got it 182 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: cheap because nobody could fix the IDOL, So that means 183 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: right that that it went. I don't know who worked 184 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: on it before Rip bought it, and then three guys 185 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: worked on it after Rip, including Rip, Rips and old 186 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: Harley Kawasaki motorcycle rider. He's a cool older dude. You know, 187 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: he's into things mechanical um and you know, just there's 188 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: gotta be a reason why it does what it does. 189 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: You can't give up, you can't stop, and it sometimes 190 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: it defies logic, and when it to FI is logic. Look, 191 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: when you eliminate the ridiculous, all it's left is the obvious. 192 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: And there was nothing else left. I had control, I 193 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: had functionality, I had everything until I took it down 194 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: the road. What if you simply do this, flip it around? 195 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: And that's your takeaway as we kick off this hour 196 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. If you can't fix a car and 197 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: you've got a problem that you can solve, what if 198 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: you do this, think about the next step and maybe 199 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: that solves it for you. Come on back and I'll 200 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: help solve whatever you've got. Zero nine zero zero, The 201 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Car Doctor will be right back. Whether it's a little 202 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: red Corvette or you go, you've come to the right 203 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: place to get that car fixed. In the Car Doctor 204 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: five five zero zero zero. Now back to on. Let's 205 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: go to John and Mississippi ninety Chevy Cavalier. John, Welcome 206 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? All right, 207 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: thank you, I'm going to little tiny split in my 208 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: CV boot just outside of the end of the inner 209 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: clamp on the passenger side, and it's I mean it's 210 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: about an eighth of inch long and I cleaned it 211 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: really good. Um. What is your thoughts about these kits 212 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: where you can leave everything in place and just replaced 213 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: the CV boot without taking everything off. It's a split 214 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: boot that you can put on, and they come in 215 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: three or four different sizes. Have you had any experience 216 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: with the Yeah, you're talking about the split boot kits 217 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: where you leave the axle in place, you take the 218 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: old boot off and it's like a clam shell. You 219 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: just glue the two halves together and put it on 220 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: the put it on the axle. Yeah. What do you 221 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: think of those? Um? You know, I think they were 222 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: all the rage fifteen years ago, and it was it 223 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: was a great idea while it lasted. But the fact 224 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: becomes that in the majority of cases, by the time 225 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: people realized they needed an axle boot, it was kind 226 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: of too late. You know, once that joints open and 227 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: the greases content emanated. And I'm not saying that's in 228 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: your case, but you know, in the case of where 229 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: the where the boots open and the grease is contaminated 230 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: and all that grits already road grit is inside the joint. 231 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: You know the damage is done. Just doing a boot 232 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: became passe because you typically ended up in six to 233 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: eight months with a noisy outer CV boot, so our 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: CV joint. So you know the price of aftermarket axles 235 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: came way down and you can go out. Now you 236 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: know you got an Orailly Ooto Parts near you, John, 237 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: get out to get out, go over to Rally Ooto 238 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: Parts and see what they have. I guarantee you they're 239 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna have axles for that thing of good quality and 240 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: brand anywhere from sixty two dollars depending upon what's in 241 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: the budget and what they have, and you know they'll 242 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: work fine. Now the question becomes, uh, you know what's 243 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: in your budget? The other the other, the other part 244 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: of that question is you know, do you have the 245 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: physical ability to you know, split the knuckle, take it apart, 246 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: get it out of the trans uh and on um. 247 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: The The other thing to be aware of is to 248 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: answer your question directly, yes, do those split boot kits work. Yes, 249 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: but it's a lot of a lot of making them successful. 250 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: Is the prep all right? That that mating surface I'm 251 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: sure you've read the instructions that mating surface has to 252 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: be hospital clean so that when you put the two 253 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: halves together, they you know, the glue is if it's 254 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's a special kind of contacts and men. 255 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: I think it's an anaerobic sealer. I think was the word. 256 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: That it drives in the absence of oxygen so that 257 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: it remains a really strong bond if I recall correctly. 258 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've looked at the kids. 259 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: But if you can get a good permanent adhesion there, 260 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: the question is, are these the original axles on the car? 261 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: The car is n twenty cars almost thirty years old. 262 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: You know what kind of and how many miles around 263 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: the car? You know, you're you're slowly in the range 264 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: of where we would normally we would think about replacing 265 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: axles because we have to because they'd start getting noisy. 266 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: So you know, it's do you have the ability and 267 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: the space and the tooling to replace the axle. I 268 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: can give it a shot. I've done understand everything else 269 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: on this car, all right, I mean, listen, you know 270 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna need a fairly large, uh fairly large socket 271 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: for the outer axle bolt. Right, look at look at 272 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: the steering knuckle. All right. First of all, you gotta 273 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: get it up on jack stands, take the tire off, 274 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: get it up on jack stands. Support it gotta be safe. 275 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: Then what typically would happen is you will find that 276 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: if you it's either you're gonna either disconnected from the 277 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: lower ball joint or disconnected from the upper strut bolts. 278 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: All right, if there's no cam adjustment for alignment on 279 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: the upper strut bolts, I say take it apart from 280 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: the strut. It will give you the ability to you 281 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: know it, it's easier that way, all right, Catch the 282 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: jack stand on the subframe back behind the lower control arm, 283 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: so that if you have to pry down on the 284 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: control arm. In other words, don't put don't put the 285 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: jackstand on the control arm, because then you're you know, 286 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: you've got your weight on what it is that you're 287 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to pry on. If you understand what I'm 288 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: saying right now. So so you know, there's a space 289 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: behind the control arm of about five six right before 290 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: it runs into that body bushing right, you can put 291 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the jack stand there. Split it at the strut. If 292 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: there's no, if there's no alignment adjustments, split it at 293 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: the strut. Okay, drive those two bolts out. Now, something 294 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: sticks in my brain that ninety that generation Cavalier. The 295 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: bolt may not turn. The nuttle turn, but the bolt 296 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: won't because the bolt may maybe splined into the knuckle. 297 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: So it might be if you're loosen it up and 298 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: you can't get the bolt to spin gently. Well, I 299 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: put the nut back on part of the way and 300 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: take a center punch and punch the bolt through the 301 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: through the knuckle, all right, And I have you put 302 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: the nut on because I want you to protect the threads. 303 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: And then as as you drive the bolt out, loosen 304 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the nut a little bit, drive it out some more, 305 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: loosen the bolt a little, nut a little bit, and 306 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: so on until you get it out. And I think 307 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: that I think under the head bolt of the flames there, 308 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: I think that's splint. Take those out. Now. The knuckle 309 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: is gonna flip forward to you, all right. Before you 310 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: do this, you've also got the nut off the outer 311 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: end of the axle, all right, so that as the 312 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: knuckle comes forward, you're gonna push the outer CV joint 313 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: into towards the vehicle. And that separates it all right. 314 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Do you have an air chisel? No, I don't have 315 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: one of those things. Okay, so you know, it might 316 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: also be a case where you have to where you 317 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: have to pry on the axle outer joint, all right, 318 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: and without an air chisel, I would tell you, you know, 319 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: loosen the nut on the joint first, Try gently, you know, 320 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: try pushing in on it. If it doesn't go, take 321 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: a center punch, not on the joint, tap it in. 322 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: It'll go a little bit and then it's gonna bottom out. 323 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: You don't want to hit it hard. You don't want 324 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: to drive it home because you're pushing against the inside 325 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: side gears and the shaft on the trans Just tapping 326 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: it enough to loosen it. And now loosen your two 327 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: struck bolts. And now as you take it apart, you 328 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be a it's gonna be a two 329 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: things are gonna happen at once motion. These two bolts 330 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: are gonna come out, the knuckle is gonna come towards you, 331 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: and you're gonna push in on the outer on the 332 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: outer joint. All right. You will probably find if it's 333 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: a which which side axle is it? Passenger side. So 334 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: it's a right side axle. You're probably gonna find it 335 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: if you turn the wheel all the way to the right. 336 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: When you do this is the tyrod on the front 337 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: of the knuckler on the back on the back on 338 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: the back, So turn the wheel all the way to 339 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the right, and that will give you more latitude and 340 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: stretch when you when the knuckle flops down, it will 341 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: open it up more. Now the joint's gonna come out 342 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: of the knuckle, and now all you have to do 343 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: is get underneath with a pride bar. Pop the axle off. 344 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: There's a little snappering where it goes into the trans 345 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: Pop it out. It's gonna come out. You'll lose a 346 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: little transfluid. You'll have to add to it. Just reverse 347 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: the process to put it back in. Do you got 348 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: any questions? You give you a call, get over to 349 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: your local Riley odo parts. I'm on any of the 350 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We're back right after this. Every hiwa, let 351 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: me slip away home. Every Hi welcome back. We're on 352 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor here. Let's get over and 353 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: talk to Let's go to Doug in Iowa. Six f 354 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Hey Doug, how are you? How can I help, I'm 355 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: good sir. Hey. Uh. The vehicle, the F one fifty 356 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: first started the gauges um come up high, go back 357 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: and then go flat. Attack the spinometer and such that 358 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: don't work and on all the red lights will come 359 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: on and then the gauge will beep, make some noises 360 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: like that, and sometimes it'll go away soon. Sometimes it'll 361 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: go for maybe if an hour or so before they 362 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: come back. Um, it seems to be. I happen to 363 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: notice it more when it's cold and damp, then on 364 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: a dry, hot day, cold and damn. Okay, is it then? 365 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: Any any any red break morning lights staying on anything 366 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: like that? No, I've got a check engine light that 367 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: stays on. I've had my mechanic claret and then it 368 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: came back on again when the gauges went crazy. Okay, 369 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: any any codes as he pulled any codes out of it. 370 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: He tried to pull some codes and store it, but 371 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: he was busy that day and so basically just cleared 372 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: the codes and sent me on my merryway. Is is 373 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: is he using an O B D two scanner or 374 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: is he going in by your make model d m Uh? 375 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: It was some sort of fancy wireless scanners something expensive. Well, 376 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: I mean it could be either way. Here's here's why 377 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm asking. All right, Um, it really is a game 378 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: now where I'm trying to think of the best example 379 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: at the shop this week. But it happened again this 380 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: week where I was working on something really innocuous and 381 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: I did a complete vehicle scan and I found to 382 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: other problems on the car that I wasn't even expecting 383 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: because I looked at everything, and you know, looking at 384 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: everything is is. I don't care about the check engine light. 385 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: The check engine light just tells me something broken. It 386 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: doesn't tell me everything that's broken. So you've got to 387 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: look at you gotta look at it all. What what 388 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: I'd like to know is on your truck, if the 389 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: instrument cluster isn't working, and and by the way, if 390 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: the instrument cluster isn't working, the instrument cluster fault by 391 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: itself wouldn't necessarily set a check engine light. However, the 392 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: instrument cluster on your truck is a data communications center 393 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: if you want to think of it like that. The PCM, 394 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: the engine controller, talks to the trans controller and several 395 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: other body modules through the gateway of the instrument cluster 396 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: all right, So it could be that the check engine 397 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: light was on as a result of it lost communication 398 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: with other modules along the way and it just turned 399 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: on a check engine light. There is no there there 400 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: are no dash lights for instrument cluster issue. If you 401 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying, and that's what the code will 402 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: tell you, sir, um, is the problem repeatable? Can you 403 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: duplicated it will? Or does it take a certain number 404 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: of days? Or um? What what happens? It's not consistent. 405 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: You might go for a week to two weeks and 406 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: it won't do anything. Or you might drive the truck 407 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: and every time you start it, you know, if you're 408 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: out shopping, every time you started it doesn't does does 409 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: the air conditioning and heat work? When the clusters cat 410 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: got everything works except for the gauges. Um. I did 411 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: have one time, uh, and that was this spring early 412 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: UM the right rare break light burnout. And then when 413 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: you had the cruise control on and you put your 414 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: turn signal on and shut the cruise control off. The 415 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: next time it happens, Doug, I want your mechanic to 416 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: do a complete vehicle scan. He's probably got a snap 417 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: on scanner. He's probably got the latest snap on virus 418 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: motus something wireless good scanner. I'm not knocking, and I'm 419 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: just saying it has the ability to go in like 420 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: a lot of the scanners today, it has the ability 421 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: to go in and do what we call a complete 422 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: code scan. I want to know what's in every module 423 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: on the truck, all right, and I'm betting it's I'm 424 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: betting it's gonna come up with you like you boat 425 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: you codes. I bet you there's gonna be things like 426 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: a U n U nineteen fifty different communication faults. All right. 427 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: It is not uncommon for these trucks to actually have 428 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: bad clusters. They fail internally because it's a big, giant 429 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: circuit board, and the best diagnosis in a lot of 430 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: cases is UM. You want to go through power and 431 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: ground at the connector at the back of the cluster 432 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: and UM anywhere the ground wires lead off of to 433 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: their contact point on the vehicle likely not a ground 434 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: issue because the acne the heat still work. That's why 435 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: I asked that question. All right, but you still want 436 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: to go through the process because this is a case 437 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: of if he can catch it in the act, it's 438 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: powers and grounds good. Yes, Okay, communication fault. Yes, likely 439 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: going to be a replacement cluster. Be aware that if 440 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: it's if it's a replace the cluster, the cluster will 441 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: will require will require programming. He's got to use um, 442 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, an approved scan tool or a ford I DS. 443 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: You know it's it's it's programming stuff. It's not something 444 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: you can do just by plug and play. All right. 445 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: The the only other thing you can look at. And 446 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: just as a tip, it just occurred to me, there 447 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: is something else. Have him take a look at fuse 448 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: twenty one, alright, Fuse twenty one, and once in a 449 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: blue moon, it's it's fuse one in the underhood fuse boxes, 450 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: all right. And if he looks, if he looks on 451 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: the wiring for the instrument cluster, he'll see what twenty 452 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: one in one power. I believe they applay power on 453 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: different legs of the cluster. Make just make sure that 454 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: the fuses, the blades of the fuses their push style terminals. 455 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: Make sure they're not the contacts aren't burned. Twenty one 456 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: is a common problem also on these, but believe it 457 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: or not, I've also seen if it's the fuse I'm 458 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: thinking of twenty one also on some of these trucks 459 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: causes a no start condition because it also has reference 460 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: or um involvement in the fuel pump circuit. All right, 461 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: but you know it's it's weird. You'll pull the fuse 462 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: out and I've learned to look at the fuse blades. 463 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: If the fuse blades are black or charred looking, gee, 464 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: that's not right. You go, you know, like what what 465 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: caused that? And then you find out that the circuits 466 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: overloaded and it's creating such a high current draw it's 467 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: starting to burn the end of the fuse and subsequently 468 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: the fuse box. You know, just just you know, bad 469 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: connections at the fuse box. We're seeing Ford's get a 470 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: lot of havoc and a lot of issues, right, and 471 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: it it does now that the check in and the 472 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 1: light comes on. Until that gets cleared, the transmission seems 473 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: to shift alert of firmer when you come into town. 474 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: When you go from highway speeds down to thirty five, 475 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: it seems to downshift kind of hard every now, right, 476 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: because it's in default. Car companies, you know, car companies 477 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: will do everything they can to get you home because 478 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: they'd rather have you get home and say gee, the 479 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: trans shifted a little cock eyed. Then you know what, 480 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: My Ford left me on the side of the road. Uh. 481 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: You know that they don't take that. They don't take 482 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: too common to that. I've got three of them, so 483 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm a four guys. Yeah, listen, I'll tell you what. 484 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: We've got one to three. We've got three Fords in 485 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: the family. I love every one of them. They're great. Uh. 486 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's there's a lot of product there, 487 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: there really is. I was kind of shocked when they 488 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: talked this week about Ford having uh um was a 489 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: financial issues and laying off employees. I couldn't figure that out. 490 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: I said, how could they make such a great vehicle? Um, 491 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense to me. But you know whatever, 492 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the power to be um. But yeah, 493 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: by all means, do that. Talk to your mechanic. If 494 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't work for you, call me back. We can 495 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: talk some more. Thank you, sir. He's a great guy. 496 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: He listens to you to Oh my my, what's his name? 497 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: Uh Max? Max? Shout out to Max is taking care 498 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: of Doug Max. I'm sure Max runs a great repair 499 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: shop and he's you know, I always say this and 500 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: people don't. People have a hard time understanding it. I think, um, 501 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: how many times somebody comes into the shop and their 502 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: attitude is I'm looking for an honest mechanic. I can't 503 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: find one yet. I've been through three dozen and I 504 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: always think to myself as at the person, because there's 505 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people in this industry like myself, like Max, 506 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: like so many other guys I can mention I've met 507 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: over the years that try real hard every day just 508 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: to fix a car. And you know what, they their 509 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: their their heroes in my eyes, like some of the 510 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: other heroes in our lives, and uh um, they all 511 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: deserve a tip of the wrench. Thanks Doug. I appreciate 512 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: the call. Welcome sure, thank you for taking my call. 513 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. I'm run any in the Car Doctor 514 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: will be back right after this. Welcome back, run An 515 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: the Car Doccurity five zero. Get out of the Car 516 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: Doctor Facebook page and get out and check us out 517 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: on Car Doctor show dot com and if you need 518 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: my personal email, I do my best to try and 519 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: answer every question or at least get the information up 520 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: here on the show for all to share. Get out 521 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: to Ron or go to and send me an email 522 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. Let's get over 523 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: Sally in Maine, Chevy Suburban and some questions. Sally, welcome 524 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor. How can I help? Hi? Thinks 525 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I have a twelve suburban with about a hundred and 526 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: twelve thousand miles on it. At a hundred and four 527 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: the engine went and I replaced that the GM dealer 528 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: worked with GM. Have only had it service at my dealer. 529 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: At about undred and tenth hous of miles there was 530 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: up um e break system that needed to be replaced. 531 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: And now living in Maine and can't garage it because 532 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: it's too big, it's starting to rust out, and I'm 533 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: just wondering how long I should go with the Chevy 534 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: Suburban and the longevity of it, because I don't know 535 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: many people can afford a new one. And I really 536 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: love that viacom Well yeah, and you know it's listen, 537 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: I'm sort of in the same but different boat. My 538 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: two thousand four suburban has sixty six thousand miles on 539 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: it because I get out a whole lot and you know, 540 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's sort of garage kept. I keep 541 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: it at the shop because the garage of the house 542 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: isn't quite big enough and I've got the hot rod 543 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: in it anyway. Uh so, you know, like I have 544 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: a problem. I keep trying to convince my wife, you know, 545 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: like do we really need all these rooms downstairs in 546 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: the house. She's not buying it, Sally, What do you 547 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: think is wrong with her? She will let me like, 548 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: I want to get her to the family room in 549 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: the living room and said, you know, we could just 550 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: extend the garage this way and make like a six 551 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: card deep garage. You know. She said, well, I said, 552 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: you don't need a kitchen. We eat out anyway. Who cares? 553 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. She has no sense of and put 554 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: it with me for thirty seven years. Was gonna be 555 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: something tour um, So yeah, I get it. So the 556 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: question is to go and buy a suburban, a new suburban. 557 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: And I priced them last year because I was thinking 558 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: about it. And then she then she caught onto what 559 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,239 Speaker 1: I was doing. Um, a new suburban you know at 560 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: seventy four thousand dollars. By the time you want to 561 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: get into the game, and you say that around your 562 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: tongue three times fast and you go to wiz. You know, 563 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: we could probably feed a small army in Bolivia for 564 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: that kind of money for at least six weeks. So 565 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: it's not a great idea. Um. So the question for 566 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: you is how rusty is it? You know? Yeah, it's 567 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: only bubbling up, you know, I'm starting to see it, 568 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: and then on the front door towards the front and 569 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: maybe the water doesn't drain. It actually has like a 570 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: quarter size west spot uniformly on both the passenger side 571 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: and the driver's side where it's showing absolute rush through 572 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: all the paint and the clear coat and of you 573 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,239 Speaker 1: and around the wheel. Well, it's all it's bubbling up. 574 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: So that's where we're at. Yeah, yeah, I I you 575 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: know I would probably first the first place you've got 576 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: to go. You've gotta get a body shop guy to 577 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: look at it, all right, body shop guys, you know, 578 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: some of them don't want to do rust some of 579 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: them are afraid of it, some of them don't feel 580 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: like they can make money at it. And be honest 581 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: with the guy, Listen, I'm asking you to not just 582 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: fix what you see now. I'm ask I'm asking you 583 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: to fix what's coming a year from now. So maybe 584 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: it's take the door panels off, figure out the drains, 585 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: make sure the drains are open, paint the inside of 586 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: the doors. Right, let's throw a code a bit, let's 587 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: throw a code of Benjamin Moore low luster alkali rush 588 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: preventative painting. There. When I bought my new plow truck 589 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: last September, I've said this before, I didn't drive the 590 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: truck for two weeks. I took the whole thing apart underneath. 591 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: I I sat there with the spray gun at night, 592 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: and I painted the whole bottom of the chassis, you know, 593 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: because that that matters. So maybe get up the paint 594 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: inside the doors as well as fix the stuff outside. 595 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: But then you've also got to look at the break 596 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: and the fuel lines. Kind of comment on GMS to 597 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: rust and be an issue too over a period of time, 598 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: especially living in a high salt rush state like Maine. Right, 599 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: You guys put a lot of chemical down on the 600 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: road in the winter, so that becomes an issue as well. 601 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: And you know, for conversation's sake, what's cheaper, right to 602 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: spend three to five thousand dollars on rust repair and 603 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: preventative or seventy two dollars on another one? Yeah, and 604 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: and even right, well, you've got a new engine, right 605 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: if if, if Heaven forbid, the trans fail, the trans 606 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: is I don't know what trans is still four or 607 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: five grand? Okay, that's now you're up to fifteen thousand 608 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: dollars or well you're up to ten plus whatever the 609 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: engine costs. So let's say fifteen, All right, fifteen here 610 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: do this go fifteen thousand, thousands, seventy. You know, no 611 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: matter how many times you say it, it's it's it's like, wow, 612 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: what a difference. Um, you know, and where do I 613 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: think you could go? You'll probably get another five six 614 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: years out of the truck. Yeah, and then and then 615 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: how long do you want to keep it? To me, 616 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: I'd like to keep it. Probably another at least five years, 617 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: so kids out of college and there you go. All right, 618 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: and that's exactly, and that's exactly. So you gotta find 619 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: the right guy's got to give it a little TLC 620 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: and a little rust prevention, and then you know, just 621 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 1: budget some money away for the repairs that might crop up. 622 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: Put away a hundred and fifty a month. I'm sure 623 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: this is paid for. Put away a hundred and fifty 624 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: a month towards a repair budget and I bet you 625 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: five years from now you still got a great running, 626 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: great looking truck. Thanks Sally, I appreciate the call. Zero 627 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor is coming back right after this. Welcome back. 628 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: We're needing of the car Doctor. Thanks for being with 629 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: us this hour. You know, I just want to talk 630 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about Memorial Day from a car perspective, 631 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: in that they expect and they're right. The traffic in 632 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: North Jersey yesterday, I'm sure other parts of the country 633 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: was just unbelievable. You could you could probably walk on 634 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: the hoods of cars to get across the Hudson River yesterday, 635 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: and from what I understand coming out of the tunnel 636 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: in the bridge, it was just crazy traffic. We've got 637 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: to think about the car, right, there's a show about car. 638 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna think about cars. Um. I want to think 639 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: about tires. Tires are so critical, you know, and yesterday 640 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: was just kind of a shock to me that it 641 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: was interesting once again, the non regular customers, the people 642 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: that show up once every fourteen months or you know, 643 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: once every three years, and all of a sudden they 644 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: dawned on and I can honestly say, all the regular 645 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: customers at the shop, we didn't see any of them 646 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: for any unexpected maintenance. Everybody was prepared and ready to go. 647 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: It was all the unexpected. This is the end. This 648 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: is where in the midst of National Tire week right 649 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: and Um, I was reading this press release from the 650 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: Car Here Counsel and I was thinking about it. Um, 651 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: they're talking about maintaining the vehicles tires is essential to 652 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: maximize tire life and ensure safety on the road. And 653 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, no time to talk about at the Memorial 654 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: Day weekend, at the beginning of the summer driving season. 655 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: Tires are what holds us up. Yesterday at the shop, 656 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: tire sales were off the wall, and I'm saying, why 657 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: is that? Why is that always at the last minute? 658 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: And I said, I have to mention it on the 659 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: show this week. I'm wondering how many people have let 660 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: their tires go and maybe even still now. Haven't you 661 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: know you haven't had an oil change. If you haven't 662 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: had an oil change in four months or five months, 663 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: chances are you probably need air and your tires, or 664 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: at least to have your tires inspected to make sure 665 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: there's no cuts, bruises, abrasions, no damage to the tire 666 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: and that they're at the proper level and also have 667 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: the spare tire check all right. You can read more 668 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: about tire safety and maintenance. Get out to us tires 669 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: dot org, slash safety, talk about service intervals, and you 670 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: can also visit the Car Care Council's website and get 671 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: their digital car Care Guide car here dot org. But 672 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: do that and be safe this Memorial Day weekend. Ride 673 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: your tires. There. What's holding you up until the next 674 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: time I'm on anating in the car? Doctor, The mechanics 675 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: aren't expensive. I listen. She super