WEBVTT - #33 Dirty Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Erica, hit up with the intro. Hell I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating with the Ungler and I Heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to handle the intro today. Hello everyone, Hello, welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is your finger up? Erica? I'm just getting Jared

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<v Speaker 1>to run down? Sorry, Okay, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning into this week's episode of help I Suck at Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>One of us does not suck at dating anymore. We're

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<v Speaker 1>dropping like flies over here. Welcome back from your honeymoon, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>how thank you Hawaii. It was great man. So we

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<v Speaker 1>stay at the Rich Carlton, the Ritz Carlton. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>We're not getting paid by the Ris Carlton. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>we stayed. Dude. It was awesome. So we left Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>got the Thursday night, stayed four nights. It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>We legitimately did not leave the resort. My like the

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<v Speaker 1>cool thing is actually and I are in the same

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<v Speaker 1>page about what we enjoy on vacation, which is laying

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<v Speaker 1>by the pool, going to the beach, going to the

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<v Speaker 1>beach and love you can't speak staying on the resort,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and just like going out to dinner there, ordering

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<v Speaker 1>room service and it's the best weekend ever, Oh, that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like my worst singing. It was the best to

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<v Speaker 1>each other singing songs to each other. We actually watched

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry McGuire in the hotel room one night. We ended

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<v Speaker 1>up ordering room services sustaining and we're like, let's watch

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<v Speaker 1>rom Com and we always quote Jeremy McGuire. That was

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the first things we bonded about. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's one of the first reasons actually like to

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<v Speaker 1>show me the money, show me the money. Well I quoted.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget what line I quoted, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>random line from Jerem McGuire, And she's like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry McGuire And I was like, yeah, I love that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we always kind of joke around about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're like, we have to watch it together. So

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<v Speaker 1>we ended up watching it together in Hawaii. Wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>was that song you guys were singing to each other?

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<v Speaker 1>I was dying. I think if we pleaded it like

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<v Speaker 1>five times, which song when you're like singing? I sang too.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first day it was she was like what.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what kind of music do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to? Because playing Pandora next to the beach,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, let's listen a Ron Thomas so lonely no

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<v Speaker 1>no more came on? So of course I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>serenader because Rob Thomas wasn't that one? Uh no? And

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<v Speaker 1>then I sang and so I sang girlfriends Why. It

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<v Speaker 1>was about that time that I had to unfollowed both. Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not blame you one bit, but the response

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<v Speaker 1>from when we came out has been nothing short of

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about let's talk about that for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been pretty much exactly a week since we've

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<v Speaker 1>announced the relationship of you and actually right, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like everyone is just enamored with everything, which is great,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the response that you would have hoped for.

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<v Speaker 1>How has it changed your relationship dynamic? I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's hard because you're still in this very much

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<v Speaker 1>honeyman phase. You guys basically literally were just in why

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<v Speaker 1>But does it feel like a weight has been lifted

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<v Speaker 1>off your shoulders? Do you feel more comfortable with anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Has anything changed in that like just between the two

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, I don't think anything has changed between

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<v Speaker 1>the two of us, um for the past couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months since we've been dating. It's been incredible, and we

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<v Speaker 1>keep falling in love more and more every day, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just continue to do that over the weekend even

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<v Speaker 1>with being out. The only differences is now, um, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we can post on social media together, which is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I can show off my girlfriend. And then other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>like that girlfriend and girlfriend. I know, it's it's nice

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<v Speaker 1>being like, yeah, my girlfriend, That's what we always called

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<v Speaker 1>each other. We're just like, she's like my boyfriend, like

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<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend. So yeah, I know everybody's gonna throw up

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<v Speaker 1>in their mouth. But but but other than that, no,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing's really changed. Like we'll read comments because everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>been so overly nice and supportive of everything. Comments no

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<v Speaker 1>comments on Ashley's picks. Actually got about comments. Yeah, on

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<v Speaker 1>the first picture and I got about comments. It was insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never experienced anything like that, even being on the show. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever experienced anything like I did

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Why do you think that is? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly have no idea. Well, obviously, so everyone's been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of following years an actually story to some extent

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<v Speaker 1>since Paradise season two fifteen. Holy is that crazy? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I met Ashley almost three years ago. Because it was

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<v Speaker 1>early June. Yeah, Paradise season too. When she walked down

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<v Speaker 1>the stairs with aren't first time ever met? I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would have ventured to say, and like, obviously we

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<v Speaker 1>can't use instagram metrics to valid like anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would say that the picture that actually posted

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<v Speaker 1>a you two is the most liked picture that any

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor contestant it has ever posted. I'm not basing that

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<v Speaker 1>on foundation whatsoever, but I think it's got to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's the most like it's it's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the difference is is that we just

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to think we just posted it online that's

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<v Speaker 1>how this is. We weren't. I mean, obviously we've been

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<v Speaker 1>on shows, but this wasn't coming from a show. We

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<v Speaker 1>started dating off the show and it was very real

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<v Speaker 1>and very genuine, and and then we just posted on

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<v Speaker 1>our social media pages that were together. We came out

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<v Speaker 1>with the story of us, so we could just pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much explain in one sitting everything that kind of happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it just exploded and then yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>That was a crazy day because I was really nervous

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<v Speaker 1>when we announced because I didn't know how people were

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<v Speaker 1>going to react. I don't even know if people were

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<v Speaker 1>going to react, and I remember the entire day I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, I don't even know if anybody's gonna really care,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't blame them, but then it just exploded.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people like you and Ashley and then you

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<v Speaker 1>guys together as a couple. It's just like And I

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<v Speaker 1>also think nobody just ever saw this coming and that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the other thing, if I'm being honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was the other factor as well, that

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<v Speaker 1>when we posted we were together, people are like, what, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to know everything, how the hell did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And people and and so um, it's it's been nothing

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<v Speaker 1>short of um of incredible. I know I keep using

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<v Speaker 1>that word, but um, It's something that I've never experienced before.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm very grateful for everything that's come from it,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody's just been so supportive, and I've done so

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<v Speaker 1>many tweets and comments about how people are like, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in love again. And while that creates a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure, I it doesn't really phase me because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>completely in love with Ashley and I see myself spending

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life with her. And so like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice that people comment on us and say, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>are you guys? Are you guys have had your ups?

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have had your downs. Um, Jared, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>an idiot for a long time, which I have been

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<v Speaker 1>and um, and it's nice for people to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's real. You guys are real, And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest call. I think the hope that it gives

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<v Speaker 1>me is because I'm very black and white in relationships, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>once it's over, it's over. I'm not turning back. But

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<v Speaker 1>what this gives me is a hope that there are

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<v Speaker 1>second chances. That's what the big thing for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just kidding. I do think that because it did kind

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<v Speaker 1>of come out of nowhere to the lesser informed. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa and I and everyone that's kind of close to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys knew what was going on all that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But I do think logistically the way that

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<v Speaker 1>it was handled where you guys you have to announce it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you posted each other on your Instagram basically announcing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But before you did that, the story of us kind

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<v Speaker 1>of caught everyone up with what you guys have been

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<v Speaker 1>up to over the past year because you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't want to call it a luxury, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have the opportunity to go on a TV

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<v Speaker 1>show again too. Then like kind of let the story unfold,

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<v Speaker 1>so you kind of were able to sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>the forty five minute video and be like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the story of us. Funny enough because that's the title

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. But then not only that, because you

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<v Speaker 1>described the is two years of paradise, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>also caught everyone up over the past six months or so,

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<v Speaker 1>which every which is where most of the stuff kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started to take shape exactly, and which is what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wanted to know of, Like Ashley was just on

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<v Speaker 1>Winter Games and she left with somebody, and then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they broke up, but like what how did this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously, you know, Ashley and I wanted to just

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<v Speaker 1>date also for a couple of months and and and

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<v Speaker 1>keep it quiet for the simple fact that we really

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to work on us and we didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to start dating and immediately post that we were together

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<v Speaker 1>because we knew no matter how big or little that

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<v Speaker 1>announcement would have, um you know, created um we it

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<v Speaker 1>was important to us just to really focus on each

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<v Speaker 1>other and have no outstanding, you know, exterior pressure, and

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<v Speaker 1>really just work to develop this relationship. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we did, and and I'm so glad we did because

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to really, um, we've already had a

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<v Speaker 1>strong foundation, but we were able to create a stronger

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<v Speaker 1>foundation and open side, open a different side of our

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that we never explored and we're able to explore

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<v Speaker 1>on our own without any exterior pressure. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that your relationship, again, it's only a week since the

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<v Speaker 1>anouncement where it will refer to us, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that the relationship has strengthened day after day or is

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<v Speaker 1>it consist the announcement just like and just maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>past week to the week before announcing it, like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's a difference at all or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just it's great to have the um blessings

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<v Speaker 1>of everyone. And it's crazy too because you guys announced

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<v Speaker 1>it and the people like myself included, I think Vanessa

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and people that don't even live in California

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<v Speaker 1>aren't even like physically close to us. We're posting like

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<v Speaker 1>showing the Chris Harrison posted. We woke up the next

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<v Speaker 1>morning and actually was like, Chris Harrison just posted a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of us, and we're geeking out, like we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know him, but um he posted the picture that actually

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<v Speaker 1>posted and he said, I'm Chris Harrison and this message's

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<v Speaker 1>adorable thing. And and it just really meant a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to us. It's people that you don't and I just

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis, still showing their support that you

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<v Speaker 1>know personally, like that you're friends with, like of course

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<v Speaker 1>you like a Tanner or Jade, I think they supported it. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Tanner is our far fairy godfather. If you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>story of us, you will understand that reference. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me, Yeah, Tanner posted, and you posted, and Becca

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<v Speaker 1>posting the amount of uh and Nick posted Vanessa and UM.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the producers that obviously are are close friends, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and just people that have meant so much to us,

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<v Speaker 1>UM over the years, our and our friendships. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's so nice to have the blessing of our friends.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a huge factor as well. And obviously we're

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<v Speaker 1>very grateful that we had that even before the announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>before we even came out and said we're together. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the past couple of months I've we've been dating. Every

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's just been like, you guys are great together, and

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<v Speaker 1>it means the world tost you news. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>once a day posted something, he didn't. They post something

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago, they posted yesterday they said

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<v Speaker 1>it was the cute. It's thank you, you know as

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<v Speaker 1>they said. Um so they reposted the video of me

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<v Speaker 1>sing and girlfriend to Ashley serenading her, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the Bachelorette starts tonight, these two get our

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<v Speaker 1>final roads and uh apparently she They tweeted also over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend they were like a PDA filled weekend of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Ashley and Jared and Hawaii. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it was that pa I mean, I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>was kissing a lot, but I just I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 1>came from nothing to everything. I guess maybe that there

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<v Speaker 1>was no slow transition to it. It was like boom,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly fast. Were you guys like completely hiding it in public?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you wouldn't hold hands in public. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>stage a couple of weeks ago, was so funny, I

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<v Speaker 1>forget what you see. We were totally we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>did not come out then? Honestly, we don't well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the big factor was that Ashley and I have

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<v Speaker 1>been so close for so long that the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>us hanging out together has never been weird at all.

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<v Speaker 1>We've always hung out together, We've always gone places together,

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<v Speaker 1>We've been seen in public together for the past three years,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when people see us out in public, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably just yet it's Ashley and Jared hanging out. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was only two of the you know, people would

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<v Speaker 1>come up and I'm you know, holding her hand or

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<v Speaker 1>kissing her, and people are like, WHOA, what's going on?

0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Are you guys? Are you guys together? But over the

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<v Speaker 1>stage coach weekend we were not hiding it, and Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>you said something so funny. I wish I could remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, you were talking about us and you guys, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are adorable. But it also makes me throw

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<v Speaker 1>up in my mouth, and it still does. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. Well, I don't love to throw up. That

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<v Speaker 1>gives me. Um. What do you guys think about the

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<v Speaker 1>couple names Joshley because that's kind of stuck with you

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years. Joshuley was created back in

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor in Paradise season two, um, because obviously, whenever you're

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<v Speaker 1>on a show, everybody gets your nickname if you're a couple. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, ve nick Na, Nickessa. Okay, I don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>there was one. I don't think we had a name,

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<v Speaker 1>big fan here, you know, I don't remember there being

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're had a name. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we had a name. It is hard

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<v Speaker 1>to combine Vanessa and nick though, but Nissa's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like it's very exotic. I like that anyway. Joshually you

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<v Speaker 1>like it? Yeah, I like Josh Ley. Sure, whatever, it's great,

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<v Speaker 1>it's phenomenal. What about yours? What was yours? I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a talking about this, So what was yours name? And yours?

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<v Speaker 1>And Christina is on? I'm paradised. Chris dena Christine that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good one. Was Dan Yelle, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was Lesdian Lesdian, Lestian lesbian Lean. Oh. I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>I pronounced it Lestian because it's just funny that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my favorite. Christina. That's great. Christina works, It certainly works.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Mr Ia Cokenetti? How do we feel about that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious? Okay, that was the best tweet I've ever had,

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<v Speaker 1>simply by the fact that Sean and Tan are all

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<v Speaker 1>posted this. Over the weekend, we went to the resort

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like Mr and Mrs Haven and Ashley and

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<v Speaker 1>I just looked at each other and we're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that works. And so after that though, for the entire weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Mr. Eichnetti Mr. Eichnetti, and I just stopped

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<v Speaker 1>correcting them because I kind of found it adorable that

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<v Speaker 1>they were coined me Mr. Eikenetti because I always joke

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<v Speaker 1>with Ashley about how she kind of wears the pants

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in the relationship, and so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I might as well just take your last name. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to take my last name, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>we get married, because I said over the entire weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always kind of a pessimist, and I kept saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we have kids one day, if we

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<v Speaker 1>get married, and she's like, what are you talking about

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<v Speaker 1>with this? If when? And I was like, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you're absolutely right, but wa wait, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>not open at all taking Ashley's last name when you

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<v Speaker 1>get married. She wants to take my last name, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley high bond. Yeah, which is let's not talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that right now, we're talking about what talking What do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean if Jared that's the thing. But she's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>right though, because you know, I plan on spend you know,

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<v Speaker 1>marrying Ashlyn. So the idea of me saying if I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking more about it was ridiculous. I've just always

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<v Speaker 1>done that. I've always never kind of really projected into

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<v Speaker 1>the future. I've been always scared to do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>at this point I really should so get the Mr

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<v Speaker 1>i Connetians in while we can, because soon enough it'll

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<v Speaker 1>go back to Mr and Mrs High Band. Obviously not soon,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, but it's so funny when I tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, people, you know, the entire weekend people

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<v Speaker 1>are calling me Mr i Keneddian. I'm weirdly okay with

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<v Speaker 1>it because then Sean shan Booth, who is obviously with

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn Bristow they're engaged, He's like it used to have Bud.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been called Mr Bristow over the last three years

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<v Speaker 1>at every hotel we've gone to. And then Jordan Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted and he was like, yeah, Mr Fletcher has the

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<v Speaker 1>same problem over here. And then Tanner tweeted and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like Mr Roper has been trying to call in for

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<v Speaker 1>late check out for the past three years, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get piste off. I didn't see Tanner's but

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny. It's great. So, now that you're in a relationship, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>do you still feel like you're mentally equipped to be

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<v Speaker 1>a co host of this podcast? Of course there are things,

0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.400
<v Speaker 1>right that used to be three people that sucked at dating.

0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I would venture to say that one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>does not suck at dating anymore suck. There are still

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<v Speaker 1>many things within our relationship that I could do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better at I could become a up here, such

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<v Speaker 1>as uh, I, well, that's a great question. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't really thought about it in all honesty. And

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you if we got actually in here, which

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<v Speaker 1>one of these days, of course, we'd love to have

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<v Speaker 1>a four. But she would say there's absolutely nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>Jared does wrong. I'm sure right like she has because

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this before, about like things that I

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<v Speaker 1>can do better, you know, to make her feel more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable or or loved or so on and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>And she's said the same things to me, and she

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't really critiqued me all that much. Also for the

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<v Speaker 1>simple fact that I am. I. I I try to give

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<v Speaker 1>her as much confident as possible. Um. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>do love p d A. And I'm always kissing her

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm always telling how wonderful she is. But it

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<v Speaker 1>also comes from a part of me that is so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful that I have Ashley in my life. Um. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you always big on p d A. Yeah, I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I told actually a couple of years ago how physical

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<v Speaker 1>touch is a very important part of the relationship for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, you're out of your mind because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't touch anybody. And then over the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months she was like, you were a spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>You are very touchy, didn't kissy and uh. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that is that makes me feel really good that I

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<v Speaker 1>know myself at least a little bit. Um. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course there's things that I can work on. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that I need to work on

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<v Speaker 1>with in our relationship, um, to become a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a better partner, a better boyfriend, and hopefully one day

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<v Speaker 1>a better husband. Since you brought it up to you

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<v Speaker 1>think that your love languages are compatible your physical touch

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<v Speaker 1>and what else would you say? Yes, because she is

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<v Speaker 1>very much on physical touch as well, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>am always holding her hand or kissing her, kissing her arm,

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<v Speaker 1>or just making her feel confident. And that's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big factor for both of us. UM. Words of affirmation

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<v Speaker 1>or is something that we're both very big on. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell her UH a lot how much I love

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<v Speaker 1>her and care about her, UM because it makes me

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<v Speaker 1>very happy. UM, and our love languages are very compatible.

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<v Speaker 1>She does a lot of access service UM, which is

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<v Speaker 1>very endearing and UM something that means a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>me as well. Quality time is very big for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We make sure that we spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>together UM, and not just you know, being in the

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<v Speaker 1>same room together, but making sure that we are UM

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<v Speaker 1>quality time exactly. There's a difference between spending time with

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<v Speaker 1>someone and spending quality time with somebody and UM, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes our schedules can get very busy, especially in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>so we make sure, UM that we always try to

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<v Speaker 1>spend as much quality time as we can and not

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<v Speaker 1>just like, hey, how's your day, good, Okay, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed. It's like no, Like I make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing as you In the morning, I try

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I say good morning and kissed

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<v Speaker 1>her before I even check my phone, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's just like a little something, but it changes the

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<v Speaker 1>day because I remember, um, yeah, I just I know

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<v Speaker 1>how much meaning that has, And so I try to

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<v Speaker 1>actively do that every day without checking my phone. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll roll over because her say good morning, and then

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<v Speaker 1>check my phone. Who's the big spoon? All on the

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<v Speaker 1>big spoon every night? I yeah, every night. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be a little spoon. I don't like the feeling of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of guys like little yeah. Yeah, I've just

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<v Speaker 1>never been one of those guys. Like sometimes, of course

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's fun if I like cut all up next

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<v Speaker 1>to her and she has her arm around me, But

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been in the position of actual little spoon.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I like to be the dominant presence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I like being the big spoon. What's great about

0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.000
<v Speaker 1>your guys relationship too, is obviously you're weirdly in this

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<v Speaker 1>honeymoon phase even though you guys have known each other

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. But I feel like a lot of

0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.960
<v Speaker 1>couples will fizzle because they get introduced to the honeymoon

0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.199
<v Speaker 1>phase two early. But I think what you guys have

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<v Speaker 1>working in your favors for sure is the fact that

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys have such a good foundation. I know you

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<v Speaker 1>always say this whenever you talk about the relationships. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been best friends for the past three years,

0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and so this honeymoon phase is basically just kind of

0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 1>icing on the cake for you because you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting this positive support and attention from you know, friends

0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and whoever else has been kind of following along with

0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:26.520
<v Speaker 1>your story. But you also know once that dies down,

0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.399
<v Speaker 1>you still have the friendship and the great relationship that

0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.199
<v Speaker 1>you guys have together to fall back on. Yeah, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we have created such a strong foundation based off

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<v Speaker 1>of this, you know, based off our friendship, that the

0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.439
<v Speaker 1>relationship aspect of our lives now has just blossom to

0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.320
<v Speaker 1>become this honeymoon phase that of course, one day you

0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.719
<v Speaker 1>know it will fizzle out. But the important thing is

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody I'd rather hang out with than actually, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>not only are we boyfriend girlfriend and I'm in love

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:56.840
<v Speaker 1>with her, but there's a common team baby um, but

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<v Speaker 1>also I just love spending time with her, and even

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<v Speaker 1>it was so interesting this past weekend, I went to

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<v Speaker 1>her place last Wednesday, stay the night. We left on Thursday,

0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>so I've been with her and then I left this morning. Um,

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I stayed over last night, left this morning and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time this morning I hadn't seen her

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<v Speaker 1>since Wednesday night. And we both looked at each other

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<v Speaker 1>and we were like, we don't get sick of seeing

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<v Speaker 1>each other. We've known each other for three years, and

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<v Speaker 1>even yeah, I was leaving this morning, I was like,

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to leave, Like I just don't. But

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.120
<v Speaker 1>we both were having that feeling. It was like that's

0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:28.960
<v Speaker 1>when you know you have something really special when you

0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>can spend six days straight with somebody, go on vacation

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<v Speaker 1>and not even be like I kind of just need

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a little breather. It's like, no, I don't want to

0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.240
<v Speaker 1>leave you. And so that was something that we've always known,

0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but this morning kind of just reaffirmed it a little bit.

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I saw that you did a little bachelor Yeah, so, um,

0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 1>when we were in Hawaii, let me get the name

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to give a shout out to them

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<v Speaker 1>because they were so wonderful. There was this Instagram handle

0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:55.639
<v Speaker 1>that reached out to me that does picnics um and

0:19:55.800 --> 0:20:00.399
<v Speaker 1>her name is her Instagram handle is Lucy soul Shine

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<v Speaker 1>Creations and what they do she just created this company

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii and they do picnics. So it's called pop

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<v Speaker 1>up Picnics. And it was fantastic and they bring like

0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>exoga fruits and champagne. It's literally like a bachelor date

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.199
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of set it up for you, so

0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 1>there's like towels and rugs and pillows and so you

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.280
<v Speaker 1>can just and there's a little umbrella. So I put

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<v Speaker 1>together this little picnic for Ashley and we went there

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<v Speaker 1>was the only time we left the resort, and we

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<v Speaker 1>walked five minutes because it was just on the beach

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<v Speaker 1>over and so we walked up and it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>we were walking to a bachelor day because she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what was going on. I was holding her

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<v Speaker 1>hand and was like, Okay, we're just gonna go down

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<v Speaker 1>this way and down the stairs. No I do, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a little bit too. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the date, no roses even Yeah, the second it's the

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<v Speaker 1>cutest thing I've ever witnessed. But on the picnic day,

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.640
<v Speaker 1>we walked down and she was great, and this this woman,

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Lucy put together this little picnic area for us, so

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>we sat down and took pictures. We just had some

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<v Speaker 1>champagne and had some fruit and crackers and cheese right

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<v Speaker 1>on the beach, and it was this beautiful little moment

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<v Speaker 1>that we had and it was great and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to put it together. So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy so much for putting that together. If you ever

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<v Speaker 1>want to pop up picnic if you're in Maui, hopefully

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe she'll expand, um, but right now, if you're ever

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<v Speaker 1>in Maui and looking for like a little date, a

0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.760
<v Speaker 1>special date thing to do, um, totally look up Lucy's.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh the god, I've already forgotten the Instagram, but it's picnics,

0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.200
<v Speaker 1>pop up picnics. I'm sure if you google it was fantasis.

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.119
<v Speaker 1>So I put that together for and then on the

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<v Speaker 1>ride home, we got on United. So we're flying United

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines and so we're waiting and then the flight attendant

0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:32.960
<v Speaker 1>at the gate came up and she said, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>want a board early, and we were like, um, sure,

0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind, that would be great. So we

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>were like, she must be a bachelor friend and she's

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet. So we were the first ones to board

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<v Speaker 1>the plane and we get on and first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in rows. We're in rows thirty five and I

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<v Speaker 1>have a middle seat. So we're walking. We're the only

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<v Speaker 1>ones on the plane. I'm walking all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>to the plane, and then we see these two roses

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>attached to our seats with little notes, and these two

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>flight attendants who are laughing hysterically and like, what the

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:04.320
<v Speaker 1>hell is this? So we walk up and they put

0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>little roses on our seats with little notes that says

0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Jared and naturally will you accept these roses? And the

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<v Speaker 1>sweetest thing. And it made my middle seat back to

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles so much more enjoyable. Six hour meddal seed

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, how could I possibly ever be mad?

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>And almost made it better the fact that they had

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<v Speaker 1>to put our roses. We were thirty five, I was

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>doing the middle seat. It wasn't even like we had

0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.280
<v Speaker 1>first class. It just made it so much more real.

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>It was great. I mean, as a couple that got

0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>engaged the Bachelor, I never got that specialty. That's why

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.119
<v Speaker 1>this entire experience has it just been so overwhelmed because,

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<v Speaker 1>like like I said, I've never experienced anything like this,

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and so it's been just you can talk about this

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 1>for days. Oh I could, I could tell, of course

0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I could. I'm just giddy about it. And so it's

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.439
<v Speaker 1>very easy to talk about because I just left Hawaii

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 1>with Ashley and we had the greatest time. We just

0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:00.440
<v Speaker 1>hung by the pool, hung by the beach, drank eight uh,

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe kissed a couple of times. And uh, did you

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>guys see Ashley's tweet about on Sunday night? We were

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.639
<v Speaker 1>were such idiots. We were my Mike keeps going in,

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Um, we were recreating the dirty dancing scene. Um.

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 1>And so it's so stupid. Um. And so we're dancing

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>in the room, not too hungry eyes that's what it was,

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>um like hungry ey. Okay, well, well anyway, not time

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>of your life, but the other one. And so and

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, we like heard the poor

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>little maid. She was like, excuse me, excuse me, knock knock,

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>as we're like dancing. And then so it's very embarrassing

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.440
<v Speaker 1>because she walked in on us dancing in our bedroom,

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 1>fully clothed, like we were just having fun. But and

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>then actually tweeters like, you know, some couples get walked

0:23:54.720 --> 0:23:57.919
<v Speaker 1>in by the you know, the housemaids having sex and

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 1>we get walked in recreating a dans from Dirty Dancing,

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>And so that's kind of the story of our lives.

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>We love you guys, and very different world, Dean. How's

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:16.159
<v Speaker 1>your dating life in a very different world? Everything for

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the past twenty minutes, whatever the opposite of that is

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.680
<v Speaker 1>is right now. And that's literally all I can say

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 1>about it, because there's just it's just taking time for yourself.

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I've gone on a few dates. Oh really, get myself

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>back out. They fine, you know, casual, nothing too crazy.

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 1>Did you meet these people mutual friends? Which is the

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>only way that I'll ever do at this point. You

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>won't go to dating a No, I will never go

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>on a dating app Interest, So you're not on like

0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Rya or I would never go on a dating app.

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I used to be on dat. Listen, I said I've

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 1>never going with the Bachelor, and I did never say never. Yeah,

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>never say never. But I do feel bad that well,

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel bad. I don't want to take away

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>from Jared's spotlight right now. I like listening to Jared

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about this romance that he has had over the

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>past week. Sorry, I could talk for days. You keep

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>going and the more you talk, the less we have

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>to talk. Um. No, my dating life has been pretty

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty lack luster, and that's kind of the way that

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be, you know, I just playing it

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>slow and cook for yourself. I had I cooked some

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>stakes this past weekend. I was actually this past weekend,

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I was weirdly like I had a body cold, but

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.359
<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't congested or anything but my head like

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>migraines and aches and pains. So I didn't really do

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 1>anything for the memorial the weekend, but I stayed home

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and cooked a bunch of steaks and hamburgers for myself

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and for my roommates. And honestly, I don't know so Jared,

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I know, has had these Omaha steaks. They sent me

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and Jared a box each. There my dad's favorite steaks

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in the world. They were really good. So what I

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't expecting was how much food came in the box.

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>So I thought everything out because I send it basically

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in this big, cool styrofoam box with dry ice um

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>frozen meat like it's like burgers, rib eyes, um lamb

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:57.919
<v Speaker 1>veal bis and all that kind of stuff. And I

0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 1>thought it all at the same time, thinking like, oh,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I just have a bunch of friends over and we we

0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 1>can cook it all and eat it all together. But

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 1>my friends are all out celebrating, celebrating Memorial Day. So

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just gonna cook it all for myself,

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>not um. And it was delicious. Like like I said,

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>there's so much it was. It was pork, there was veal,

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 1>there was lamb, there was bison. Um. I ate myself

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>into a food coma which was which was incredible, exactly

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>what I needed because again I wasn't feeling very good.

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.720
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0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.680
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0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.440
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0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.120
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0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm getting him like four boxes for five day.

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>He's I'm gonna be the best son in the world. Well,

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:33.920
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<v Speaker 1>E A N in the search bar. Not in there's

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0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.760
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0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.639
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0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>this stuff included in one box? Am I reading this right?

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It says two tender flame MiG nawns, too beefy tops,

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 1>thir Larns, four fried chicken sticks which I thought were fantastic,

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 1>to bonus pork chops. I could keep going. The list

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:57.600
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0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:02.920
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0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Grab your dad and fire up the grill. Jared, I

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 1>know you're probably gonna be back in Rhde Island for

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Father's Day. For that right, I'm not gonna be back

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>for Father's Day. Unfortunately I haven't sent to uh to

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>my house, so which is great, which is even better

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>that way? He gets the package. Surprised, YEA, what was

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the one for Mother's Day? It was the Sherry Harry

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Berry's Baby Day Steaks for fathers. This is the version

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of Sherry Burry's Father's Day. Omaha, steaks, gotta get them.

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 1>That's fantastic. Vanessa, we didn't talk about your dating life. Yeah, Vanessa,

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 1>how's your dating life going? About my dating life? Let's

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 1>tell us about it. So actually so far for the listeners,

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>just a little preface. We'll probably touch on this at

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the end of the podcast as well. But Vanessa is

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>traveling back to Montreal for the summer to tomorrow. We're

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna which we haven't necessarily discussed the full on logistics

0:27:58.240 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>of how we're going to handle that. I think it

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>might be all in or going to like a studio

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>in Montreal. I don't know. We haven't figured that part out,

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>but figured it out. We have to figure it out.

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So great because last we heard, you were still dating

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 1>this guy. So yeah, it's just it's right now. It's

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a long distance thing. And I'm

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 1>not a post a long distance at all. I love

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 1>long distance and I love long distance relationships. But it's

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>fun because you get to see each other and it's

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's nice and you know, you get to have

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 1>like some time apart um. But I don't know we'll see.

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not putting any pressure on it, because

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm someone who like dives deep into a relationship as

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>soon as I like someone. So I'm falling in love

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>with the things that you don't know about a person.

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? I feel like I'm kind of

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>guilty of that. What do you mean falling in love

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:51.239
<v Speaker 1>with things you don't know When you don't know so

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>much about someone you can kind of fill in the

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>blanks for yourself of what you think they might be.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And then you said, like falling in love with the

0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>idea of it, like breast people who's asking? I was

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like, you know, I think listen. I

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>have a tendency of romanticizing a relationship and being like,

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he's gonna be a great father. He

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>has this, and instead of like actually looking at um

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>why things could possibly work out versus why things could

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>possibly not work out. You know, I have a tendency

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to be like this, this is the this is the one,

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>instead of actually taking my time to date them slow.

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It's weird because I don't know how to date someone.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to date multiple people at the

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>same time. Like if I like you. I'm going to

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.239
<v Speaker 1>date you, and I will not have I don't want

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>to have any other options of dating other people. Yeah,

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about the podcast you focus on one

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>person and then if it doesn't work. But I don't know,

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>like maybe I should change my ways because apparently it's

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>not been working out for me. Not to not to

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>shift gears too quickly or anything like that. But let's

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>talk Bachelortte for one second. I'm sure we all watched

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the episode. I know of Jared and I obviously watched

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it and has to watch it last night as well. Yes,

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>what do what are just initial thoughts maybe like a

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>couple of minutes on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, wait I

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>wrote some notes. No, these are my like top like, oh,

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>these guys are cute, Okay, Colton off see like adorable

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.920
<v Speaker 1>from him, he has his charity Mr Perray. You look

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>at him, he's like buff and you know Clay Clay Clay,

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>He's buff. But then he has like the sweet voice

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>and he comes from such a nice family. Garrett, Um,

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Garrett is going to go really far

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>with his minivan entrance and she seemed very attracted to Yeah,

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Blake Lincoln's void, his his accent, you like you like

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>he was. I thought they kind of teased him being

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a villain a little bit in the promo. It seems

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>like he's going to be a villain really well. Okay,

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>from night one, he seemed like a cut, nice guy. Um, Christians,

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>these are my notes a Christian's face. Exclamation, exclamation, exclamation,

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>those eyes and cheek bones. Don't remember, okay, Camille, I mean,

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, he was cute too, but he's like sixty forty.

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>When he was like telling social media participant, gots at home, Okay,

0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure. And then he went sixty's bachelor, you

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta go to her hundred Trent. I don't remember what Trent,

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but I wrote lamo for Trent. Oh. Trent was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy I think who popped out of the hearse and

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, I literally died. Okay, that was funny.

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty cute. I like that cheesy stuff. Okay,

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and then I wrote Connor is cute. I hated every

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>single one of them. Colton personally, so of course I

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>like him. Yeah, we met him. He was sweet. Yes,

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Um Joe the grocery store owner I like, I mean,

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I liked he got sent home right, he'll be in Paradise.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Chris Harrison teased it a little bit about that. Um,

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a lot of room for me

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to be one over. The only person that I like

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is Colton, But I don't know, what don't you like

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 1>about the other guys, like, for example, Garret and Blake

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>or two front runners. What don't you like about him?

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Garrett said. He kept saying some stupid, cheesy little thing

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to Becca, and I was like, that's getting old really fast.

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm already annoyed. But you know what night one is?

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys remember Night one? Of course I don't

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>remember half. I agree fully with that statement, but I'm

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 1>just saying there's a lot of a lot of room

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>to be left over, to be one over. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess my question with you, Vanessa is, let's put you

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<v Speaker 1>in the shoes of Becca right now and say you're

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>dating thirty guys at the same time. My worst night,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary just pieces together. You're moving back to Canada for

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>this summer. How long when does Bachelorette Canada film? Is

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it possibly the months of June two September in Canada?

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you going to Canada film the Canadian bachelorette. This

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. I'm not Canadian bachelorette. Oh my god. No,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>who would you have given your first impression roads to?

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I mean I did like Garrett. I would

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>have either given it to him, Colton or Clay. Garrett

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>does kind of have this all American like, I don't

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>know feel to him? Yeah, um yeah, yeah, stor Derek

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>or no. I'm trying to I'm trying to remember. I

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>don't remember that much. I just wrote these notes sound

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>but I don't remember. Like, so Garret would have gotten

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you first impression rules. Yeah, I just like the whole

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>because let's and I had like not a traumatic break

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>up with my the love of my life. U. When

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I see when I see less types of things, I like,

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I say l l lull whenever I read um so

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>so with my ex he um at that point in

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>our relationship, He's like he wasn't sure if he wanted

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>kids or not. So that was like the biggest thing.

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Every time I entered a new relationship, walks in and

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 1>say they want But this is what I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the problem. I romanticize relationships and I think a

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of I think everybody does Yeah, a lot of

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>people have a tendency to do that. Does this gentleman

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you're currently dating. Have you guys had the conversation about children?

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>He does want kids and he comes from a great family,

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>but there are obstacles, and of course there's obstacles in

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>every relationship. Totally right, right, Okay, well there you have it.

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa would give her first impression Rose to Blake, same

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>as Becca. I said, Garred Clay or Colton. Okay, so

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>you need down three. There we go. I will say

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I just got done hanging out with Lauren. See my

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>first second. Apparently Garrett was liking some controversial things on

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the internet that he Yeah, I was gonna really touch

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>on it, but there was, like apparently his Instagram, which

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>have since been deleted, apparently liked some a couple of

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>years ago I think at this point, but lights some

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>possible very right wing controversial Instagram posts. Yeah, but I

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>don't really know about it too much. I just read

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 1>the headline, which which maybe is even a topic for

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, not so much outside of Bachelor, it's could

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you date someone? Not that's necessarily enables bigotry or anything

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like that, But does social media presence for the significant

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>other that you're dating influence your decision or like your

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>feelings towards that person. Yes, I'd rather than not have

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>social media. I would almost think that's my situation as well.

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I agree, like that you start dating someone and that,

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>like Vanessa for instance, that you start dating someone and then,

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of staid, you check their Instagram and

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they're posting a bunch of like mirror selfies, like shirtless selfies.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you out? Yeah, Well, because like I, um, I don't.

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I would judge them that quickly. You know,

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>there's like one persona on Instagram and then there's a

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>meet the person in person, and they can be a

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>totally different person. So I don't know. I I wouldn't

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>judge them just based off of Instagram, but it's hard

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 1>not to. Yeah, it's like you can't get that image

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>out of your head. Yeah, and that's kind of the

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>way that they present themselves to the world. I don't know.

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I've definitely noticed that my Instagram USAID has gotten skewed

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more douchey since post Bachelorette. I think

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>all of ours has be a little bit more self centric,

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of a bummer. I don't know, it's

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.280
<v Speaker 1>just you don't have to be I like you. Before

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I went on the show, I would post pictures of

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like landscapes or my dog, And now I post not selfies,

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>but I post pictures of you and me, and a

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>picture of you with my friend in a picture my friend.

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but you said that you prefer they

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>not have it at all, and it's not a red

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>flag to meet somebody who has no social media, wrote Um,

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Isn't that sad to think that they

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>might there might be something off with them. If they

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know, there's something at their hiding, they don't have to.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>It's a little weird. I think that. Well, okay, find

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>someone who has social media but doesn't use it as

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 1>much as maybe I would, or people in my past would.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Your roommate has zero. He deleted it all like maybe

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>a month or two ago. Why what's his number? He?

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>Why did he delete it? He just said that he

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>noticed himself like mindlessly scrolling and wasting time time and

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>just like kind of filler, like time filler. Well, it's

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>proven that so like the chemical that gets released in

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>your brain every time you go on social media. Yeah,

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.240
<v Speaker 1>like anytime you get likes or anytime you get comments,

0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>it's the same chemical that's released that like when you

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>take a drug or it's addicting social media is he

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>was flipping chairs and no, I had tall ice coffee

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and an ENGERG drink before coming here, So that's why

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking fast and everything. But no, he It's it's

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.759
<v Speaker 1>funny because people will text me and be like, hey,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 1>why did your roommate block me on Instagram? And like,

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>he didn't block you, he just deleted it. And then

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>like girls with he like invited a couple of girls

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>over to the beach the other day, and one of

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the girls made a comment specifically that was like I

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 1>find you so much more attractive knowing that you deleted

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>your Instagram. It's just it ads a different dynamic to

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>it that I guess. I don't know it's really taken,

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.280
<v Speaker 1>but I wonder if it's like in the media attraction

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>because you don't have social media, because it's different and cool.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>And then once you say she starts dating him, she

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>finds it weird that he doesn't have social media, Like,

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, now that I'm dating you, you're trying

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to hide something. No. He did also just recently go

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 1>through a breakup, and he says not having Instagram for

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that breakup has helped him. I mentally, Oh yeah, you

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 1>can go down a rabbit hole totally. I remember this

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just like seven years ago. But when my X and

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I broke up, you know me blocked each other on

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Facebook just because like you don't need to see them

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 1>picture posting pictures with somebody else, you block them. I mean,

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've talked about this before. You still have

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>separate Instagram accounts. I mean, ifuly have separate Wait what

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Deanie underscore babies, I've got my Why are you even

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 1>saying about Why are you saying? Yeah, what are you doing?

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.840
<v Speaker 1>These are secrets and suposed to accounts. I have the

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>help I suck at dating podcast that I post for

0:37:55.200 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the episode every single week. Who because if account that's me,

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>all right, I will definitely start interacting more on that.

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 1>That's why I ask you guys to send me pictures,

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and you never do. You're the one that takes all

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>the pictures on your phone and sends me all the

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>ugly ones. My fault that you decided to look like

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that in the pictures. Okay, and then I have a

0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>third one that's a private account that only my friends

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>follow that I followed, And how come I'm not part

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>of that account? Jared? Are you part of that? I'm

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>not a part of that. No one from vacclinations. He

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>would keep it a little private. That's so understandable, because yeah,

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>there you go with the second account, no Better, so

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you can block someone on your Vanessa Grimaldi account, but

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>then go to the no Better you and creep. Yeah,

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>we're all guilty for that. Don't make me out to

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>be some crazy same here. Cool. So for this very

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>next segment, we have the author of Confidence Creator, Heather Monahan. Heather,

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>are you there? I'm here, Heather. Hey, Heather, So it's

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it's me, Dean, Jared and Vanessa and I did that

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>last time. It's only three amazing. I understand maybe someone

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.279
<v Speaker 1>might think Jared and I sounded like Anyways, Heather, it's Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>Jared and Vanessa. Thank you so much for calling in

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 1>and taking the time to speak with us today. How

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.880
<v Speaker 1>are you? I'm great. How are you guys doing? Jacked

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>up on Mountain dew Um? So, Heather, tell us a

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit more about your book and maybe the role

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that confidence plays in dating nowadays. Sure, So the book

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>is all about the lowest moments in my life and

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.720
<v Speaker 1>how I use those moments to discover and find ways

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>to create confidence, and how the reader can too. And

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, confidence applies to everything. It

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't just apply at work or at home. You know,

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 1>it really can completely change your situation in regard to dating.

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, im mentally, not only from the standpoint that

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you don't have confidence, you're not going

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>to be willing to approach someone because you're going to

0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>be far too fearful of what they might think of you,

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>to actually being on a date with someone and being

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself because when you're not confident, you know, you might

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>try to mirror someone, you might try to act like

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody else, but you're definitely not going to bring your

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>best version of yourself to the table when you're not

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>feeling your most confident. So does this apply to I

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know. As I think we have this discussion, like

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times when I I've usually been in

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 1>relationships and the reason why I ended up in those

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>relationships was because I had to build up the courage

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to go up to the guys. Yeah, um, do you

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:34.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, I swear to God true, it's true.

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that comes Do you think that's like?

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Why did you guys laugh at everyone one time? Like

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>no one believes me. I swear, I don't I do

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>not get I don't get approached as much as I

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that you don't get approached, But I also

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>believe that you go up to guys. Yeah. Um, now

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I lost my train of thought. Thanks guys, Sorry, Heather,

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Well you're gonna ask Heather a question about approaching guys,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel, oh wait, so yeah, so does this book

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 1>apply to women as well? Oh? My gosh, absolutely so.

0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, the story is told by me, so if anything,

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole concept of the book and the

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>tactics and strategies are applicable to men or women any age.

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>But because I'm telling it from the standpoint of my

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>personal stories, I think it resonates even more, you know,

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>real when a woman reads it, because it really is.

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very specific stories around sexual harassment, bullying

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>in the workplace, you know, personal challenge, challenges, break up, divorce,

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>all of those different elements are in the book. And

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it really connects strongly with women. Well, so,

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's a lot of different elements, like you said,

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>that are covered in the book, But what is your

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>personal experience with confidence in relationships? You know, I write

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>about that in the book. I actually write about when

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I was dating my now fiance and at the time,

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I felt really insecure because I had been divorced and

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was disappointed in relationships and down on myself.

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 1>So when we first started dating, I was not my

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.320
<v Speaker 1>authentic self and I would hold back. That was always

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>my strategy when I was younger, and I didn't realize

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I was holding back because I was insecure, and now

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 1>having a chance to look back on that time and

0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>realize that, you know, I didn't want to be the

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>one to text first, or I didn't want to invite

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.479
<v Speaker 1>him to do something serious because what if he said

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>no and I scared him away. I was always playing

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>games in my mind instead of just being my real

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>self because I just didn't feel confident in those moments.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And when I look back on those times, it's painful

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to see. I keep journals, you know, all throughout my life,

0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and I looked back at those journals and it's really

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.759
<v Speaker 1>eye opening to see what a change it was for

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>me over the years and sent together on and off

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>for eight years, and you know, over that eight years span,

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>at times, as my confidence grew, our relationship evolved and

0:42:52.120 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>changed for the better. Yeah. I think it's really interesting

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>when you talk about confidence and how you have to

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 1>use confidence on a daily basis, and it works just

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like a muscle and it needs to be developed day

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>in and day out. And I am a firm believer

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>in that as well as that you have to work

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.840
<v Speaker 1>on your confidence is just naturally not gonna come to

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Um. And one way to build

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>confidence I heard as well is to imagine yourself like

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>a cloud or like water. Have you ever heard about this?

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Because if you ever look into the sky, clouds never wrong.

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you've ever seen a cloud that's wrong. No, it's

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>just all there's all different types of shapes. I know

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>this is really maybe, but like it's just interesting to

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>think that, like in terms of trusting your own instincts

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 1>and having confidence when you're within yourself, because a lot

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.720
<v Speaker 1>of times you lack confidence, which makes you not trust

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>your gut and doubt yourself. And the way you get

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 1>over that is sometimes for me one, I don't envision

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a cloud, but a tool to use to build confidence

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>is like to always try to imagine yourself as a

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>cloud or as water, because water is never wrong or

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 1>a clouds never wrong. They're always different shapes. Right, You've

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:49.799
<v Speaker 1>never seen a cloud and you're like, well, that's wrong. No,

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:51.919
<v Speaker 1>It's just what I'm saying is though, I've always found

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 1>this very interesting and it's a way to build confidence

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>for you personally. I wonder if other people use it

0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 1>as well. That's all what's your standpoint? I think that's

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>very very interesting. I don't understand what you're saying. It's

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>really about self acceptance and knowing that you're enough no

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>matter how you are, which is a great fundamental practice

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to build confidence. And I think that you know, that's

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 1>definitely a piece of the whole picture is just getting

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the place. And part of that is you know through

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>growing your confidence that you are enough and you are

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>willing to listen to your inner voice and act upon that,

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 1>because all of those steps and actions really help you

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to build that confidence daily. Do you think that typically

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you see men and women in relationships grow confidence throughout

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a relationship or is there ever, the inverse of that,

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:44.200
<v Speaker 1>where confidence starts high and it begins to waiver as

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>time moves on. I mean, don't you think it's both ways?

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Depending on the people in the situation. Think that that's

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:54.240
<v Speaker 1>the case. But how do you go about helping people

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>with the ladder of that where they start out super

0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.320
<v Speaker 1>confident and then as time moves on, confidence kind of

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>begins to waiver a little bit? Do you do address

0:45:01.600 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 1>that all in the book? Well, I don't address that

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>topic in particular in regards to relationships, but one of

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the elements that I talked about, and every time I

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>speak at anything, I address this point. It is critical

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to fire negative people from your life. And you know,

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>one of one of the things that I when I

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>initially heard you say, maybe they started off both confident people,

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>but as the relationship goes on, they've both lost their confidence.

0:45:26.600 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>To me, that sounds like the negative situation. Something's off there.

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>So you know, if someone bringing you down, holding you back,

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 1>beating down to you, you know, putting you second, and

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>you begin allowing that that's the kind of person you

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 1>need to fire from your life. Because when you remove

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 1>those types of people from your life, you literally take

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>off as well as your confidence those simultaneously. Well, there

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you go. That makes a lot of sense. That doesn't

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 1>make a lot of sense, I think. I think by

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>accepting someone like that is showing that you're allowing that

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>person to see you in that way. You know, like,

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know it makes sense? Yeah, exactly. Confidence,

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 1>When you allow someone to treat you that way and

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>push you down and speak down to you, you're really

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>hurting yourself internally. I mean, I think when you get

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in that situation, all you have to do is just

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>think about clouds that clouds telling people know but have

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I understand your point. I think sometimes it can be

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 1>challenging though, because obviously oftentimes with those relationships, um and

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I've experienced in the past. That's why I asked the question,

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>is um you know, you you develop obviously real feelings

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>for a person, but then you notice the confidence begin

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to waiver on either side, and then it begins one

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 1>of the becomes one of those things where you may

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>be recognized it as a defect in the relationship, but

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you're so invested in the relationship as it is, where

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it's difficult to kind of fire that relationship as you said, um,

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>do you think like those insecurities or lack of or

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 1>confidence going downhill throughout a relationship is the fact that

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.919
<v Speaker 1>you are realizing that you're so dependent on somebody else

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 1>that's going to say. That's what I've always been wondering

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:56.959
<v Speaker 1>about relationships, is that because you have so much love

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.240
<v Speaker 1>and that you're so dependent now on that love for happiness,

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that like, if you ever lose it, I think sometimes

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you lose confidence in that because you're like, no, no,

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>no, no no, I I can't screw this up. I can't

0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>screw it up. Well, I mean, you need to have

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>boundaries in any situation. And that's the one thing that

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to my mind when I hear you say that.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So you know, there is no relationship should be everything.

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day. You should be everything.

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>And your happiness is you know, defined and comes from you.

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And while it might be sad that you love someone

0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 1>in that relationship could go away, you will still always

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 1>be fine if you really are a confident person and

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, the unfortunate part of life is that people

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:39.200
<v Speaker 1>are going to die, they're going to move, they're gonna

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>get fired, they're gonna cheat on you. There's going to

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>be ups and downs in life. But when you truly

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>have worked on your confidence and developed it and have

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>a sustainable plan to move forward with it, those blows

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 1>will not knock you down. You will be able to

0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 1>recover and bounce back very quickly. And I speak with

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of experience that you know for years old

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>life seeing a lot of these really major life changing elements.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Even the recession back in two thousand nine was a

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 1>huge life changing moment for me and a real difficult time.

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.280
<v Speaker 1>So all of those different things, the economy, the relationships

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>help you know, all these things are going to happen

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 1>to everyone at some point in your life, and it's

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>all about how you're going to respond in the face

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of it. And if you are a confident person and

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 1>you practice that daily, you are going to respond very

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>quickly and bounce back. So howther can you give us

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 1>an example on something that maybe we can work on

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>every day to build that confidence. Yeah? Sure. So you know,

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 1>practice is a critical um element in developing confidence in

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>any situation. So I know that a lot of people

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>are fearful of public speaking, for example, and so they

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:50.399
<v Speaker 1>don't really find their voice and they don't speak up

0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they'll make excuses, well I don't need to

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 1>be a public speaker. But then you notice seeing them

0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 1>in a meeting and they never raise their hands. So

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, for whatever your challenges, or maybe it's was

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>asking somebody out on a date, it doesn't really matter

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:06.920
<v Speaker 1>what the ask is. It's all about practicing. So one

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I suggest for people to do

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is if you are that person that has a hard

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>time speaking up, maybe it's just tapping the person in

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>line in front of you at Starbucks and introducing yourself.

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, you're not going to

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 1>die if the guy doesn't turn around and say hello

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and ignores you. But for you, that's a confidence building

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:28.000
<v Speaker 1>moment because you're using that as a practice moment in

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 1>your day. It really is irrelevant what the outcome is,

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's helping you to see, wow, I tried something new.

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I tried speaking up and introducing myself and life went on.

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I was okay. So the next time that element or

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>opportunity arises and you see that person you want to

0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 1>go on a date with, it'll be a little bit

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>easier to tap that person on the shoulder because you've

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 1>been challenging yourself daily to put yourself in that you

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>know previously uncomfortable situation. Well, if you practice like that

0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 1>for thirty days every single day, you do it on

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.960
<v Speaker 1>days a the one, it's going to be pretty easy

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to tap the guy on the shoulder. And that just

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 1>comes with the discipline of practice. I think that's really

0:50:07.040 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 1>good because, yeah, practice makes perfect And if you practice

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>towards things that maybe you're not that invested in, when

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>the day comes when you're actually invested in talking to someone,

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you'll have the confidence to actually go out to them

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 1>because you've been practicing with yourself and then you talk

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>about you know, like communication And I've always wondered about

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>within a relationship to build confidence. I believe that communication

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>is a huge factor in building confidence within a relationship

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>because I've always lacked confidence when I don't know something,

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>when I'm kind of in the unknown of like is

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.719
<v Speaker 1>this Am I doing something wrong? Am I doing something right?

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>But when I actually talked about it with my partner, um,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I end up growing more confidence within the relationship because

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>then I either know I'm doing something right or I'm

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>doing something wrong. But now that I know that I'm

0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 1>doing something wrong, I can work on getting better at it. Yeah,

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and that's also you know, communication critical, and it's also

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 1>about you speaking up. So what when you communicated, you

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.919
<v Speaker 1>were speaking up with whatever your truth was, and those

0:50:56.960 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>are a huge confidence building moments. So it's think taking

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that step, taking that action of having that conversation and

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>realizing it doesn't have to be an argument. For me personally,

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:10.360
<v Speaker 1>when I was younger, I thought that if I was

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>going to speak up and say, well, you know, maybe

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong here, immediately I would get into an argument

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>because I was getting defensive and I didn't feel confident

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:22.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was scared. And learning over time that you know,

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>removing emotion from the conversation and approaching it in a

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>very factual manner allows you to remain calm and allows

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the other person not to get triggered, which delivers a

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:36.440
<v Speaker 1>better outcome. I like it. I like it too, um

0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think you you mentioned this a little bit

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>earlier on, but a lot of our listeners will email

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in and one of the main issues that we come

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:47.560
<v Speaker 1>across with them is just their unwillingness or inability to

0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 1>introduce themselves. And I know you said just obviously like

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it takes practice. It takes like a thirty days to

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of train your mind and become better at introducing

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:58.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself to people. But um, what type of advice would

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you have for you know, like the casual data whether

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:02.800
<v Speaker 1>they're twenty one or thirty one or forty one, however

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:05.799
<v Speaker 1>old to kind of help them with that introduction other

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 1>than just you know, going for it, Is there anything

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 1>specific that you could recommend for them? The first thing

0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:13.479
<v Speaker 1>that comes to mind for me is asking for help.

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>So we all have networks of people in our life,

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and you're always so close to that next person that

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.359
<v Speaker 1>you could potentially be a fit with, So reaching out

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and tapping your network, your friends, the people that live

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in your building, your next door neighbor, the person you

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 1>run into at the grocery store every Sunday. You know,

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 1>we all have these circles of people that we know

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.320
<v Speaker 1>that are in our world and reaching out and tapping

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.520
<v Speaker 1>those people individually and asking them for help. Who do

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:43.879
<v Speaker 1>you know that you think would be a great match

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>for me? That's how I was set up with my

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>fiance eight years ago, was through that exact situation. So

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 1>when you find good people in your life and they

0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:56.680
<v Speaker 1>like you and you like them, asking their help and

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 1>asking who they might know in their circles that you

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know, really will deliver you some nice, warm introductions

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.360
<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to be taking that cold introduct.

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Introduction every time definitely helps make it take the pressure

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>off a little bit. If it's not quite as cold,

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>it definitely does. It makes it much easier, much more

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>comfortable for people. I think, Uh, I wonder if you

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 1>should maybe coach some people before going on the Bachelor

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Bachelorette because they could use a common I think those

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.280
<v Speaker 1>people have totally different challenges than what we're talking about.

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Anything helps, I'm sure. Um, well, how there is there

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>anything else that you're working on besides the book that

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 1>you just came out with. Yeah, so my new book

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:34.960
<v Speaker 1>just came out on Tuesday and it hit number one.

0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>We released and best seller within a couple of days.

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:42.359
<v Speaker 1>We sold out today. Yeah, it's been a crazy run.

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's pretty exciting. We sold out of our

0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>hardcovers today and a new shipments coming in. I think

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 1>it's coming in tomorrow. So it's been a really exciting

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>week and and just really lends itself to you know,

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>realizing that building confidences, you know, not only is it

0:53:56.680 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>important to me, but really it's applicable and important to

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 1>every and so what you know, during this process, I've

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.320
<v Speaker 1>had so many people reach out to me on social media.

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:07.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm on you know, all the platforms, and I get

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 1>v ms all the time asking how did you know?

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:13.120
<v Speaker 1>How did you have the confidence to go out on

0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>your own and the confidence to do this? And that

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>took me down the path of writing the book. But

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 1>during the time I was writing the book, it was

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>brought to my attention that, you know, the younger generation

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>really loved videos. So I as soon as I finished

0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>working on Confidence Creator and went into publishing mode, I

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 1>began working on a video product version of Confidence Creator.

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>And we're actually an edit mode right now with that project,

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's really bringing the books tips and strategies to

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:47.440
<v Speaker 1>life in an e learning course through a video series.

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I love it. It's incredible. Well, okay, so for the

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.400
<v Speaker 1>listeners out there, if you want to get your hands

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>on Heather's book, be sure to check it out on Amazon.

0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I think you said, it's sold out right now,

0:54:56.320 --> 0:54:59.280
<v Speaker 1>but you're getting a shipment soon. Um it's called Confidence Creator.

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.560
<v Speaker 1>It's I think I'm treeping your Instagram right now it's

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>doing better than Trump's are of the deal, so that's obviously. Yeah,

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that was an exciting thing. That's awesome. That's awesome. Well,

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:10.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for taking the time to call

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:12.920
<v Speaker 1>in and giving us a few pointers. I think we

0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:14.840
<v Speaker 1>could all benefit from a little more confidence on a

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>daily basis. Absolutely, Thank you, Heather, and best of luck

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.239
<v Speaker 1>with the books and videos and everything, and um, maybe

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:23.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll circle back with you sometime in the near future.

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:26.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, sounds good. Thank you so much, Thanks, thank you,

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:30.799
<v Speaker 1>good bye. Well, I think I could use a little

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 1>bit more confidently of, like, you know, focusing on something

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:35.719
<v Speaker 1>that you know you want to work on and then

0:55:35.800 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 1>actually going out there and working on. Let's do that

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:39.319
<v Speaker 1>exercise right now, Vanessa, what do you think you need

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to work on? I'll go last, Jared, what do you

0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>think you need? It's ridiculous, we asked vansa first, be

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:49.400
<v Speaker 1>more confident in your decision. You're absolutely right. I'm not

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>really good at making decisions. I'm always like in my

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>head second guessing things, So like, yeah, making decisions quicker.

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree? No, no, sorry, this is a weird noise

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 1>that I made. Yeah, no, absolutely, my indecisiveness, and it's

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 1>absolutely something I need to work when's your birthday? Nomber scorpio.

0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be balanced, but yeah, when's your birthday?

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:14.200
<v Speaker 1>What do I need to work on? I think that

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:19.919
<v Speaker 1>I would like to be more Yes, it's a hard one.

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You're perfect name, I'm pretty damn perfect. I need to

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>work on being more humble, I think. No, I'm just kidding. Um,

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot to work on. I think that

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to work with Well, why are you thinking

0:56:34.160 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>about that? What I did really like about what she

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:38.239
<v Speaker 1>said is that you have to practice being confident, because

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people are just like, oh,

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:42.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not confident. I don't have confidence in myself. Well,

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 1>it's something that you actually need to work on it.

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 1>You need to practice it to make perfect. And so

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 1>one thing that I really liked is if you have

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:49.680
<v Speaker 1>trouble approaching people, approach people that you don't care about,

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.360
<v Speaker 1>like you're in the Starbucks and just say hi to someone,

0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and then do that for like ten days straight, and

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>then somebody that you actually want to approach, I think

0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:59.280
<v Speaker 1>it will really help you approaching them because you've already

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 1>talked to so many pull that you're kind of like

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a social butterfly. At this point, it will be easier

0:57:03.560 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>to go up and be like, Hi, my name is so,

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and so I think I'm I just realized what it is.

0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm the opposite of that. I want to work on

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 1>my confidence in saying no to people because that I

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>really struggle with that even yesterday for instances more I'm

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>just say, like you were just talking about how like, oh,

0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm profert, I need to work with my humbleness obvious.

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>So you're joking now you're like, no, but you know

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 1>what I need to tell people no, Well, that's true.

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Like yesterday, for instance, my friends and I were at

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>the beach for a Memorial Day. Obviously everyone had the

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 1>day off of work, so we went to to kind

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 1>of gather around and um, obviously Memorial Day, so let's

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.200
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and take a moment to thank you the

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 1>people every women. Um. Anyway, So so we had some

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:44.120
<v Speaker 1>friends having barbecues, are like, yeah, come to this barbecue,

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and I always say, you know, like maybe I'll come,

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Like sure, I'll come with full well knowing I'm not going.

0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>But rather than say no to them in that moment,

0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, it text me or like maybe I'll

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>come like blah blah blah, and what I need to

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:56.600
<v Speaker 1>work on. Even my roommate pointing this out yesterday, was

0:57:56.680 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I just need to start saying no. Yeah, I'm not

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:01.840
<v Speaker 1>under the ever not even over promise, but I just

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't like telling people what they don't want, you know,

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like hurting people's feelings, and you'll go so far to

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like them by not shying, not showing up exactly what

0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying you will. And I think to to relate

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it back to Heather is I think that there should

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:15.320
<v Speaker 1>be some sort of art of confidence in saying no

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 1>to people like that, because I think all of us

0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>want to be people pleasers. But yeah, of course I

0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:20.919
<v Speaker 1>think I got a lot better with that too, because

0:58:20.920 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I was always like yes, yes, yes, because people pleaser too.

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But now I'm like, okay, I know. Either A asked

0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>me to go out at three o'clock during the day,

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, yeah, let's do it. By the time

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>nine o'clock comes around, I'm like nope, I'm in my pajamas,

0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and not A Like I'm like, oh, I'll circle back

0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and let you know how I feel after dinner. Instead

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of I think a lot of times too, it's giving

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the person the opportunity to actually handle the truth. And

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that's something I work on as well, because I'm people

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>pleaser as well, and so I'll sometimes say yes when

0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm not going, and so now I try

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to understand that they're going to be just fine if

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't go. And so that's when one thing I've

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:54.560
<v Speaker 1>been working on saying like no, I can't make it,

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's I'm not really hurting their feelings all that

0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>much because they're going to be just fine, giving them

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to handle the truth rather than beating around

0:59:01.200 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the bush to try to make them feel better. There

0:59:02.880 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>it is, um Mark, what else do we want to

0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 1>do today? Well, we have an email right here from

0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Julia i'd like to share with you, and I'm going

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to activate a phone line before I read this email,

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:14.240
<v Speaker 1>all right. The email reads like this. It says, Hi, Dean, Jared, Vanessa,

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and anyone else reading this. I was wondering when the man,

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the myth, the Legend, Alex Bordiakoff will join you on

0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the podcast. He has been mentioned a lot lately and

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know if he'll ever be a guest.

0:59:25.640 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 1>He is my favorite guy from Rachel's season. No offense deed,

0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I ask if he will ever guessed because I have

0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a slight ulterior motive. I am from the same city

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>as him, Gross Point Park, and I wanted to know

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.160
<v Speaker 1>if he has any hack to dating in our area,

0:59:38.240 --> 0:59:40.360
<v Speaker 1>that is, if he is currently dating. I moved back

0:59:40.400 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>home to Michigan from college three years ago for a

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:45.080
<v Speaker 1>job and haven't really pursued dating since moving back. I

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>want to focus on the job, but I'm ready to

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:48.840
<v Speaker 1>get back out there. Any tips are appreciated. This is

0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:52.040
<v Speaker 1>from Julia Rose and PS, Jared, your love story with

0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>actually makes me so happy. It helped me realize that

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>should seize the moment and get back out there. Julia

0:59:57.920 --> 1:00:01.160
<v Speaker 1>asking about or your I have no idea who that

1:00:01.320 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>human being is. It's interesting because it's online six right now.

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's on the phone is Alex Oh from my

1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 1>season of the Bachelor. It wasn't ring any bells for

1:00:14.080 --> 1:00:19.360
<v Speaker 1>me at first. Is a podcast. I'm going to come

1:00:19.440 --> 1:00:21.320
<v Speaker 1>right out and say it sounds like Julia wants to

1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:28.160
<v Speaker 1>date you out exactly what I was thinking. Um, But

1:00:28.280 --> 1:00:30.040
<v Speaker 1>she does raises an interesting point that I think you

1:00:30.080 --> 1:00:32.360
<v Speaker 1>can help us tackle because when we talk on this

1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:35.360
<v Speaker 1>podcast from the perspective of me, Jared, and Vanessa is

1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it's always the dating in Los Angeles and it only

1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:40.439
<v Speaker 1>applies to thirteen million people. However, big Los Angeles County

1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:45.479
<v Speaker 1>is Alice. What is dating like in small town gross Point, Michigan. Well,

1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, christ a draft. The fact that this is

1:00:49.880 --> 1:00:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Dean is supposedly my good friend at least on Instagram, right,

1:00:53.880 --> 1:00:57.800
<v Speaker 1>And uh, I only heard from Amy and and here's

1:00:57.840 --> 1:01:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the thing, and I haven't I haven't talk to you,

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and like the week, I mean, I know you're not

1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that busy because under text us that or something. You know,

1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I knew, I knew you were going to bring that up.

1:01:08.760 --> 1:01:10.440
<v Speaker 1>And I was going to text you and be like, hey, man,

1:01:10.480 --> 1:01:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like I'm excited to have you call in on Tuesday

1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:15.040
<v Speaker 1>for the podcast. But I wanted our conversation to be

1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:18.560
<v Speaker 1>authentic for the first time in the work. I wanted

1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:21.760
<v Speaker 1>this to I wanted the listeners to feel the electricity

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:26.840
<v Speaker 1>between the two of us so we can feel sure, Um, yeah,

1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean dating here. You know, Growth Point, which really

1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is right next to Detroit, is still big metro metro area.

1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:37.000
<v Speaker 1>It's a little different. I mean most people actually end

1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:41.640
<v Speaker 1>up engage with pretty young. It's crazy. Uh, you know

1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the kids so I coached uh swimming

1:01:44.320 --> 1:01:46.720
<v Speaker 1>in college after I graduated, and a lot of the

1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:51.280
<v Speaker 1>kids that coach. I'm married a Riddy and I'm still single.

1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Howl are you I'm watching turn thirty and a couple

1:01:56.240 --> 1:02:01.040
<v Speaker 1>of months. Still young? Still young, buck, Yeah, so young enough.

1:02:01.120 --> 1:02:05.040
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know about heck here. I mean obviously,

1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, with with social media and all the dating apps,

1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:12.360
<v Speaker 1>solute different, we don't really have any We can't really

1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 1>get advice from parents anymore. Like we are the first

1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:18.200
<v Speaker 1>generation through this, so like all the advice, I mean,

1:02:18.240 --> 1:02:20.320
<v Speaker 1>we are the ones that should be giving advice, like

1:02:20.400 --> 1:02:22.800
<v Speaker 1>you guys to do with this podcast to the younger generations.

1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And you can complain about what you want, but I

1:02:25.560 --> 1:02:27.520
<v Speaker 1>mean the reality is, this is the evolution and this

1:02:27.560 --> 1:02:30.200
<v Speaker 1>is what's happening. This is where we are. So I

1:02:30.200 --> 1:02:32.600
<v Speaker 1>mean i'd say online dating still probably, I mean that's

1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the most uh you know, basic way you can go

1:02:36.480 --> 1:02:39.920
<v Speaker 1>about it. I just I think creep creep hard because

1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean the thing is, like you have all these

1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:46.120
<v Speaker 1>people putting out all this information about themselves. So like

1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying like make these grass judgments, but you know,

1:02:50.040 --> 1:02:51.919
<v Speaker 1>look into it, look for the rest flags. Don't waste

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<v Speaker 1>your time. You don't have to waste your time to

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<v Speaker 1>go on a date now with someone that's you to

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<v Speaker 1>find out these flags. That's uh, I mean that's my

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<v Speaker 1>number one thing. Even with when I used to do

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<v Speaker 1>online dating, I would look into these pictures. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you would you pay attention like, Okay, what are they

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<v Speaker 1>doing these pictures? Are there too many sealthie? So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean what that friends looks like that? So Alex hold

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<v Speaker 1>on because I so my friend was like, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>have this really good cute guy for you, but what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to introduce you to him? And I and

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<v Speaker 1>I creeped him on Instagram like, oh he's cute from anyways?

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<v Speaker 1>Um and uh from what? And anyways? He creeped my instagram?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what his reaction was, Oh, no, she looks

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<v Speaker 1>like she's ready to get married. She looks like she

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be a mom too soon. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in to be there. You already married, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>putting out the vibe you want right right, But he's

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<v Speaker 1>just not the guy for you, that's all, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. Like why he would be a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of your time to he did that? Right, think he

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<v Speaker 1>creeped you and he said that's not for me, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that's a time. So yeah, I agree with Alex. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's more to me than just wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>no of course, and but I but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Alex is saying that. Alex, you're not saying you should

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<v Speaker 1>judge everything look after these like red flags as far

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<v Speaker 1>as like what are you looking for as far as

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<v Speaker 1>a compatible partner, Like would you yeah, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw a guy who was on the Instagram who just

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<v Speaker 1>had like thirteen shirtless self self please in like the

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<v Speaker 1>past you know months, of course you would judge a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. But you know I don't think you would. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean I'll say it right now, Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had ads like you every other picture on

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram, yeah, I hate putting up those honestly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know exactly what you're doing when you do things.

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<v Speaker 1>If I never put him on, then I'm like self

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<v Speaker 1>conscious about taking my shirt off because every time I

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<v Speaker 1>take it off, people like, oh, he's just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>show off. No, I'm Alex. Let me for the listener.

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<v Speaker 1>So Alex and I went to Coachella together and before

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<v Speaker 1>we went, he was like, I'm terrified of being reverse

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<v Speaker 1>body shamed. And I was like, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, every time he takes his shirt off,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone like what what do you say? Everyone asks you

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<v Speaker 1>how you get your sick abs or like how you're

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<v Speaker 1>so in shape or something like that, and you say

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<v Speaker 1>it's taxing on you, or what do you say? Like people?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean people, do I assume that if I take

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<v Speaker 1>my shirt off, like I said, if I'm gonna pool,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a hot day, saying oh, he's just been

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<v Speaker 1>like looking forward to this moment to take is the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to think is shirt off? And so now I

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<v Speaker 1>just west through my shirts maintain this like humble. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll like, hey man, if you got it,

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<v Speaker 1>flaunt it exactly. But that does to your point earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the reasoning behind Like because you've

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<v Speaker 1>been to l A a a few times to visit me

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<v Speaker 1>your Frentino, but culture, like dating culture in a small

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<v Speaker 1>town like gross Point. Granted it's not that small of

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<v Speaker 1>the town, but it's so much different than it is

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<v Speaker 1>here in Los Angeles or like New York or a

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<v Speaker 1>big city whatever it is. So do you, like for Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>because like it's hard for you to meet someone that

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<v Speaker 1>wants to start a family right away in Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that moving to Montreal or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I heading back. So that's the point I'm trying to make.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, do you think that I think so you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a product of like the the environment

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<v Speaker 1>that you're in. Yeah, product absolutely. I mean l A.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously everyone complains you are you have this perceptive of

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<v Speaker 1>these unlimited options of you know you you you know

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<v Speaker 1>people you can date really, but whereas in reality, I

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<v Speaker 1>think most people really focus on the on the terrible

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<v Speaker 1>choices so that you're presented with because I mean, really

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<v Speaker 1>you're presented with more options than ever before books good

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<v Speaker 1>and bad, but I think i'd say ultimately more bad options.

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<v Speaker 1>So it feels like it's uh, you know, postocalyptic time

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<v Speaker 1>updating now, But it really isn't bad. I think it's good. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for I mean, it's Kea was three years

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<v Speaker 1>off from dating. Who is this? I mean the email

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about three years off. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it Isn't that the reason I'm here just getting back

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<v Speaker 1>out there? Mean for me, like when when I go

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<v Speaker 1>on dates, I just make sure that date that I

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<v Speaker 1>set up is something I want to do, something I

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<v Speaker 1>would do this by myself with a friend. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a big so I'm not as big as like fam

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<v Speaker 1>of dinners and stuff like that. Like for me, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times I'm like, I want to go ice

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<v Speaker 1>skating or there's uh I want to go for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I see I say very active to skiing or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll invite people and even though like it might

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<v Speaker 1>not be a great date, I know I'll have a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. So like whatever she's into, like maybe she's

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<v Speaker 1>a runner, Like just invite someone for her jog. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to commit to these big dates that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like to waste the time honestly, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you should keep going in the same dinner movie dates

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<v Speaker 1>over and over, you're gonna really exhaust yourself. Well, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's help Julie out real quick. You said that

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of friends, uh in gross point

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<v Speaker 1>that are either engaged, married in long term serious relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they end up meeting their significant others. And

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any suggestions for her to meet someone

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan? Oh? No, you gotta get out wrong girl. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing I see. I don't know. I think just

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<v Speaker 1>say it sounded like because you took some time off

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<v Speaker 1>and you just start going on dates, like, don't be

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to gone dates. A lot of people you know nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>they're either lazy or take you like this negative sigma's

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<v Speaker 1>attached to dating a lot or going a lot of dates.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you can make that a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't make it about like hooking up and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, but if you combine them with the activity

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<v Speaker 1>you are ready to do, if you work into your schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can have a lot of time and

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<v Speaker 1>keep me aggressive. I mean, if she likes the guy

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<v Speaker 1>asked him out, like make that first move fight into

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<v Speaker 1>d M. Uh, whatever your taste nowadays, I guarantee she's

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<v Speaker 1>already slit into your d M. Probably I'll double all right, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>I have one more burning question for you that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio and everyone in Bachelor Nation is just

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<v Speaker 1>dying to know. Are we going to see in Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>this summer? Uh? Yeah, probably not. Why not? We want

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<v Speaker 1>to see little hip hop abs down in Mexico. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been flaking a little, but I mean, I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually told the producers I would do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're gonna ask I preach for the

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<v Speaker 1>Captain's already done to the season, So sorry, guys. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still holding out for Alex for bat here next season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's all finny. But I probably l a for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months of summer just to hang out. Well. Nice, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that you've seen it. Well I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but Jared Nick and I have been making

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<v Speaker 1>these ridiculous Bachelor recaps. We would love to have you

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<v Speaker 1>come in and totally help us out. I know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually really funny. I actually I just watched. Uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see the whole episode, but I saw you guys

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<v Speaker 1>this recap. But it was really funny. I mean, who's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the writing? Is that? Is that all? Nick? It's

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<v Speaker 1>all improv? Man, there's no Yeah, I know you you're

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<v Speaker 1>not that funny. I've been taking some improv classes. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting better, all right, are you really? Of course not?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say I think you keep busy taking out

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<v Speaker 1>of nine X or whatever hip hop AB. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to catch up to you. But you know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do hip hop AB. Just you're back

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<v Speaker 1>and like college, so that's embarrassing and now no, I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 1>San was a man um. Hey, I'm not gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie. Beach Body on Demand. I love it

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<v Speaker 1>still to this day, but killing it all right, Alex, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for calling in, buddy. We miss you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were excited to hang out with you when you get

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<v Speaker 1>to Thank you so much, alex Uh and Julia thanks

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<v Speaker 1>you as well for all of the incredible dating advice

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<v Speaker 1>for girls. Point all right, see, but I'll talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was great. Yeah, Alex is super nice. Fun.

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<v Speaker 1>He liked my walking Google. Every time I have a question,

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<v Speaker 1>He'll have the answer for it. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was listening to her. He actually listened. He

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<v Speaker 1>tuned in when I was talking about like freezing my eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>so he sent me this lengthy message about how it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good to freeze your eggs. I'm like, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you know this stuff? Yeah? He was even like all

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<v Speaker 1>Google stuff, all Google stuff, and talk about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, you should never trust Google. That's wrong, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you exactly why that's wrong. It's just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>alex Um, I think that I think that Jared can

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<v Speaker 1>attest to dating in a small town. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna say totally like, it's interesting we see

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<v Speaker 1>your product, of your product, of your environment when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. One of the first things you asked

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<v Speaker 1>people where you're from, Because everybody comes to Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone asked what do you do? Well, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's where you're from and what do you do compared

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<v Speaker 1>to a place like gross Point, where it's like, where

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<v Speaker 1>where are you from? Well, I'm I was born in

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<v Speaker 1>gross Point and raised in this particular city. And the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing around, Like everybody that is dating in around

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<v Speaker 1>is from around where in Los Angeles. It's like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that's dating in Los Angeles is from some other part

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<v Speaker 1>of the country that's coming here for work or aspirations

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<v Speaker 1>to be in Hollywood and film and so on and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. So I don't think people ought to come.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people come to Los Angeles for dating

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<v Speaker 1>compared to other parts of the country where you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you're born in one part of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>you're raised in one part of the country, you get married.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just kind of the way life works. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I think in small counties like this, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot easier to meet somebody get married. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't been easier. But you know, when people ask you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>what you do, what do you tell them? Well, I say, well, truthfully,

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<v Speaker 1>in my time is devoted to my charity. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I have a foundation. What do you say, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unemployed all the time. Yeah, what's the definition of

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<v Speaker 1>being unemployed? If you'd be technically right on that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think it's funny not working. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation starter. Technically my job, I technically am unemployed. But

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<v Speaker 1>what if you have to fill out a form? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>There was, Yeah, there was. I mean, I hate to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a previous relationship into this, but whenever Leslie and I,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I would meet Leslie's friends, they'd be like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? I like, I'm unemployed, and then she'd

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<v Speaker 1>always she a get so pissed. You'd be like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>tell anyone you're unemployed. I guess it makes sense a

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<v Speaker 1>couple more emails. And by the way, the emails have slowed.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know why this happens every time we started

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<v Speaker 1>the Facebook group. So now people go to the Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>group and they stopped sending us email. Happened with scrubbing

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<v Speaker 1>and and it happened with almost famous. I don't forget

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<v Speaker 1>to email us. Yes, need those emails. Love the emails.

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<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating at iHeartMedia dot com. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from Brittany. She's currently dating a lovely thirty year old teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty five. We've been in a number of dates

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<v Speaker 1>and he's very very sweet. He always messages me good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>asked me how my day is going, and plans for

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<v Speaker 1>us to do things, etcetera. I'm starting to wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>he is too nice? Is that even a thing? All

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<v Speaker 1>I want is for someone to treat me right and

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<v Speaker 1>spoil me a little, So why am I second guessing

1:13:14.120 --> 1:13:16.800
<v Speaker 1>someone that actually does those things. I'm really not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what to think. Any advice is very much appreciated. Sending

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<v Speaker 1>love from Australia. I've never been to Australia. I've been

1:13:24.240 --> 1:13:27.040
<v Speaker 1>my honeymoon was in Australia. Family in Australia and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to go visit. Wait. I always say, Brittany, be

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<v Speaker 1>careful what you wish for because you just you might

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<v Speaker 1>get it. So if you want a nice guy, you

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<v Speaker 1>end up with the nice guy, but now you have

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<v Speaker 1>what you want and you want something more. So I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's the yeah. And if you have like

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<v Speaker 1>an ale, then you're gonna want the nice guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's always like we want what we can have, and

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<v Speaker 1>then once we have it, you want something different. So

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<v Speaker 1>if he's giving you what I want, I want a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's gonna call me in the morning, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>wish me good night, and you know it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>sweet to me, and and want the same things out

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<v Speaker 1>of life. I mean, man, not going forward. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, every once in a while, like your relationships

1:14:03.280 --> 1:14:05.360
<v Speaker 1>will go through your ups and downs, and maybe right

1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:07.800
<v Speaker 1>now you're going through one of your downs, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be an up. So sometimes it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>too good to be true, but it's just that good,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it just works. He seems like a really nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't overthink it. Yeah, sometimes you overthink it. I think

1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:20.360
<v Speaker 1>some of it too boils down to maybe you just

1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:21.800
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what you want. Like I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. I thought that I knew what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted in a relationship and then you end up kind

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<v Speaker 1>of getting it. You're like, I don't know this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I want anymore, And I think it's human beings

1:14:27.640 --> 1:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>were always waiting for the ball to drop. You're like, no,

1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:33.280
<v Speaker 1>something bad's gonna happen, Something bad's gonna happen. This can't

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<v Speaker 1>be this can't be this good. It's kind of bracing

1:14:35.280 --> 1:14:37.479
<v Speaker 1>for impact, of course, I think. I mean Jared's right.

1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean sometimes it's too good to be true, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's true. So just like kind of let it be

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<v Speaker 1>what it is to be until something bad happens. Exactly.

1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:46.479
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like this guy is pretty cool three years old,

1:14:46.560 --> 1:14:48.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a teacher, he's treating you really well, exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's early on too, so maybe he's really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prove himself to be like, hey, I really like you.

1:14:52.120 --> 1:14:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to show that this is real and this

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<v Speaker 1>is something I want to work towards and move forward with.

1:14:56.800 --> 1:14:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So maybe he's just kind of like amping it up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because it's still early in all, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, no, you're I want this to move forward

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<v Speaker 1>with you. And there is such a thing as too nice.

1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm too nice, There is too nice. I'm so nice

1:15:09.320 --> 1:15:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys, I'm like the nicest person. I'm just kidding, No,

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<v Speaker 1>But there definitely is the thing that's too nice. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we talked about it earlier about how you're two

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<v Speaker 1>nice to really hurt somebody's feelings. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there is too nice. I think there's someone for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the person that you, you might not want

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's too nice. You might want someone who has

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of spice in them, you know, spice. Yeah,

1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:33.840
<v Speaker 1>But I I I think there's someone for everyone. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a I don't think there's someone

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<v Speaker 1>that could be too nice. But Vanessa, what about the

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<v Speaker 1>thing where women are attracted to the bad boy, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that maybe doesn't treat them quite as well and

1:15:42.840 --> 1:15:45.920
<v Speaker 1>they find that more Also for guys too, Like we

1:15:46.040 --> 1:15:48.360
<v Speaker 1>all want a challenge, right, we want someone who like

1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:51.320
<v Speaker 1>constantly makes us feel like we're on our toes and

1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:53.120
<v Speaker 1>we don't really know like where we stand, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the chase, And once the chase is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm bored because she's feeling she's bored because

1:15:58.040 --> 1:16:00.679
<v Speaker 1>he's too easy, He's just there. Well, I also think,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think girls just like confidence, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>bad boys have a lot of confidence, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's where it comes from. But I also think that

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<v Speaker 1>fizzles out. I don't know where your thoughts about that

1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:12.040
<v Speaker 1>finesse are. Yeah, I think that gets old fast. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like an a media attraction, exactly a media attraction, and

1:16:15.160 --> 1:16:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it just fades out because you're like, I hate this

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<v Speaker 1>and this really sucks. On the flip side, for a

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<v Speaker 1>do you think a girl could be too nice if

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<v Speaker 1>you were a guy? Oh, totally, of course it can

1:16:25.280 --> 1:16:28.439
<v Speaker 1>be too nice. A girl too nice? Yes, I'm just

1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:30.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to think of it. So, my former girlfriend from

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<v Speaker 1>years ago was one of the nicest people I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>met my entire life to this day. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I admire so much about her is whenever

1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:39.280
<v Speaker 1>she met someone, that person would walk away with like

1:16:39.360 --> 1:16:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a smile on their face, like, Oh my gosh, what

1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:43.320
<v Speaker 1>an incredible human being, And I always kind of look

1:16:43.360 --> 1:16:45.120
<v Speaker 1>at her. Is not too nice by any means. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like the epitome, like the height of excellence when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to niceness, and I was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that attracted me her most. So I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>think that a girl could be too nice. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>she could. I think if she's texting you all the

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<v Speaker 1>time with hearts and everything, bringing you cookies at a

1:16:58.960 --> 1:17:04.560
<v Speaker 1>regular basis, like you're trying to maybe I don't know,

1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:06.599
<v Speaker 1>I think that it could be smothering at a certain

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<v Speaker 1>point when they're that nice and attentive to you. Well,

1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I also think in terms of being too nice, like

1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa said, I want somebody who can challenge me, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think sometimes when you're being too nice, you

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<v Speaker 1>therefore don't challenge your partner in certain ways. And that

1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:20.519
<v Speaker 1>bothers me because I'm like, no, no, no, no, I

1:17:20.600 --> 1:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>want you to state your opinion. I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be nice to me. I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about hurting my feelings. I want you to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what you're actually feeling in this moment. And to

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<v Speaker 1>that point in the relationship that I was just describing,

1:17:30.360 --> 1:17:33.320
<v Speaker 1>there was an emotional disconnect because there was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was just positivity all the time. And I remember there

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<v Speaker 1>was one time, uh, there was like an emotional thing

1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:40.519
<v Speaker 1>that was happening with her parents, like they were discussing

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<v Speaker 1>a divorce, and I was like sitting down, like please,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about it, Like this is difficult, I know,

1:17:45.040 --> 1:17:46.800
<v Speaker 1>but we need to talk about this, like for your sake,

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<v Speaker 1>for our sake, for our relationship sake. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>just one of those things where we're like no, no, no, no,

1:17:50.160 --> 1:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>like we're not gonna like we didn't talk about it

1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:54.800
<v Speaker 1>because our relationship was too nice. Yes, is the way

1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:56.439
<v Speaker 1>to put it. Um, So yeah, I think it's It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of works both ways, of course. So for Brittany,

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying you sound is great. He doesn't sound too nice,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't know if he's the one for you

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Only you can answer that question. I keep

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<v Speaker 1>going with it, certainly. Don't like be scared that, oh

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<v Speaker 1>it's too nice, it's too good, it's all gonna fall apart.

1:18:11.720 --> 1:18:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Don't be scared of that. Just keep going see where

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. Fatima has a question for the guys. I'm

1:18:16.479 --> 1:18:17.840
<v Speaker 1>glad we got this one because I wanted to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>This is good. This may be a stupid, embarrassing question.

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<v Speaker 1>When guys send emojis, do they question what emoji to

1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:26.519
<v Speaker 1>send a girl and whether it's friendly or if it's flirty.

1:18:27.040 --> 1:18:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Do guys struggle with sending the right or proper emoji?

1:18:30.120 --> 1:18:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Or is it just me? She says, there's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally message and I can't figure out if he's being

1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:36.960
<v Speaker 1>friendly or being flirty when we message each other. He

1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes sends me a message that I see as flirty,

1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:42.519
<v Speaker 1>but then he uses emojis that I consider friendly. I

1:18:42.560 --> 1:18:44.880
<v Speaker 1>showed my cousin the messages and she said, he's just

1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:47.519
<v Speaker 1>confused and doesn't know what he feels. So emojis, do

1:18:47.640 --> 1:18:49.639
<v Speaker 1>guys put the kind of thought into them that women

1:18:49.720 --> 1:18:54.840
<v Speaker 1>put into them? I love emojis. I'm pro emoji. I

1:18:54.920 --> 1:18:56.920
<v Speaker 1>use emojis in every single text, even like to my

1:18:57.000 --> 1:18:59.439
<v Speaker 1>guy friends. I'm sending to my brother, I'll send emojis

1:18:59.439 --> 1:19:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's even called me out for that before too.

1:19:00.880 --> 1:19:03.920
<v Speaker 1>He's like, bro, stop sending me emojis. I love them.

1:19:03.960 --> 1:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they're great. I'll even like send like a

1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:07.200
<v Speaker 1>long message and then just followed it up with a

1:19:07.240 --> 1:19:09.240
<v Speaker 1>couple of smiley faces after it. Yeah, you just want

1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to be like because you know how when you just

1:19:11.080 --> 1:19:12.840
<v Speaker 1>send an emoji, it's like three times the size is

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<v Speaker 1>if you started texts, I like the big ones until

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send them separately sometimes and especially like I don't know,

1:19:19.200 --> 1:19:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it's fun to It's like a good way to convey

1:19:21.040 --> 1:19:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the way that you're feeling. It makes it spices up

1:19:23.320 --> 1:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the conversation of your text. I don't personally think I

1:19:25.760 --> 1:19:27.120
<v Speaker 1>put a lot of thought into it, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>a very big emoji user, and Vanessa as a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>if a guy sends you emojis about that one, I

1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:35.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think now that I'm getting older, I'm like,

1:19:35.280 --> 1:19:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather not send me emoji. But let me let

1:19:37.840 --> 1:19:39.679
<v Speaker 1>me say. I'm not saying like winky faces or anything

1:19:39.680 --> 1:19:44.679
<v Speaker 1>like that. I like my favorite favorite, my favorite emojis,

1:19:44.680 --> 1:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>then I know it's I like the huggy emoji. Yeah,

1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I like the awkward like smiling emoji, the crying and

1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the laughing emoji. The wait, what's a flirtatious emoji? The

1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.360
<v Speaker 1>one where the tongue is sticking out like that's a

1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:09.679
<v Speaker 1>little aggressive. Think no, no, no, no, like it's like yeah,

1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like no, that's like crazy, that's like that. Interpret That's

1:20:17.120 --> 1:20:19.439
<v Speaker 1>the issue too, especially over a text message. Everything can

1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:23.720
<v Speaker 1>be interpreted differently with because it's it lacks tone. Uh.

1:20:24.320 --> 1:20:26.000
<v Speaker 1>At one point, the laughing one, I thought it was

1:20:26.040 --> 1:20:28.320
<v Speaker 1>a crying one, so I would send that and people

1:20:28.360 --> 1:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>thought I was laughing, but I was crying. Okay, that

1:20:30.640 --> 1:20:33.519
<v Speaker 1>can be easily confused. That's not working. But you're right.

1:20:33.520 --> 1:20:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Everybody interprets it differently, so it's like, who the hell

1:20:37.360 --> 1:20:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the friendly one, the smirky ones, flirty, smirking, yeah, like

1:20:42.000 --> 1:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>damn bro, Yeah, I want to go through mine now.

1:20:44.479 --> 1:20:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I think the one with the tongue out is kind

1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>of like this one has a couple of different ones.

1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:53.759
<v Speaker 1>That one's more like fun one with one eye opened,

1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:56.640
<v Speaker 1>one eye closed, tongue out. But there's also one with

1:20:57.320 --> 1:21:01.280
<v Speaker 1>the eyes are are are yes eyes are sideways and

1:21:01.400 --> 1:21:04.519
<v Speaker 1>the tongue is out, and that it's also this one.

1:21:04.680 --> 1:21:08.080
<v Speaker 1>There's also the purple one with the horns. Yeah, that's

1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:13.760
<v Speaker 1>very devilish. Yeah that's all. No, No, I find just

1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the simple ones, like the cute, like smiley one, like this,

1:21:17.240 --> 1:21:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the one, um so definitely that one, the poop one, uh,

1:21:20.920 --> 1:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the wink one, and the one that they're doing this

1:21:24.120 --> 1:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>what's that described to our listeners? What the hell you

1:21:26.120 --> 1:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>just did? Like? Oh yeah, what is that for? You.

1:21:30.080 --> 1:21:34.639
<v Speaker 1>I know someone that the emojis blushing. I don't gonna

1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:37.920
<v Speaker 1>say his name. Um anyways, long story short of that segment,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pro emoji. Do you text? Actually no, no, you

1:21:45.320 --> 1:21:47.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm really into now. I guess sometimes but

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<v Speaker 1>very very very yeah, I send this to like no,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, no, no, you don't like no. I had

1:22:02.240 --> 1:22:05.160
<v Speaker 1>this entire conversation roommate and it was a really cute

1:22:05.200 --> 1:22:07.240
<v Speaker 1>guy that sent her a bit mojy. She's like, all right,

1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:10.719
<v Speaker 1>so she stopped texting him. I was aggressive. You can't

1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:12.160
<v Speaker 1>come out of the gates with a bit moody. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think once you guys like establish a rapport. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're kind of funny. We also need to establish

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<v Speaker 1>that there's never been a person who looks like their

1:22:18.439 --> 1:22:20.240
<v Speaker 1>bit moogy, no matter how much you think you look

1:22:20.320 --> 1:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like your boy except four, didn't you say, except for

1:22:23.240 --> 1:22:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Erica or someone looks like they're bitmoji. Now maybe Erica

1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:31.800
<v Speaker 1>came in she was like, I look just like, uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that often that. I think the advice for

1:22:33.439 --> 1:22:36.400
<v Speaker 1>her if they not overthink this as much, not necessarily

1:22:36.439 --> 1:22:38.560
<v Speaker 1>because he's not overthinking it. He might be overthinking it,

1:22:38.640 --> 1:22:41.240
<v Speaker 1>but everybody interprets them differently, and that's the problem. It's

1:22:41.280 --> 1:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>like sprinkling a piece of pizza with some like pepper flakes.

1:22:44.080 --> 1:22:46.320
<v Speaker 1>It just adds to the flavor a little bit. It's

1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:49.480
<v Speaker 1>not it doesn't really mean anything. It's not like centrally

1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:53.120
<v Speaker 1>like crucial to pizza and clouds. Today we learned a

1:22:53.160 --> 1:22:57.320
<v Speaker 1>lot about Would you like to know the top five emojis? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a data from seventeen. Number five I was

1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:04.479
<v Speaker 1>the heart, Number four was winking face. Number three the

1:23:04.560 --> 1:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>smiling face with smiling eyes. The number two is the

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<v Speaker 1>loudly crying face, no but sad facing. Oh yeah, mouth dawn.

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<v Speaker 1>And the number one emoji. Let's guess that. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>guess it? Go ahead, guess one. The laugh emoji. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the smiling face with open mouth and smiling eyes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just the smiling Sorry, it's just like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the normal smiling but his eyes are like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Eyes are a fun fact for you. The number one

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<v Speaker 1>emoji in America because this is not poop, but it's vomit. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell it means something that is not intended

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<v Speaker 1>to mean, right, listen to this. Definitely flirtation. This is

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<v Speaker 1>going to make your day. Canada uses the Poopa moji

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<v Speaker 1>the most who funk? Well? Does that do it? For

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<v Speaker 1>this episode? The last episode of Vanessa's summer in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna miss you. But the good thing is

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk. We'll talk on the phone every no, but

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<v Speaker 1>it won't be the same. Oh no, it's never going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the same. Who's driving me home today? Are

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<v Speaker 1>we just? What? But I done it for our show? Well, Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for your stint co hosting the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun while it lasted. Well, she'll still be here,

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<v Speaker 1>not in person, but just over the phone. I'm sorry, Vanessa,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is sorry. Right now, it still looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's your podcast. It's yours. Dean kicked me out earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the podcast, and now he's kicked out Vanessa. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels good to have power. Humb uh um. Yeah, Well

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<v Speaker 1>it was fun, I mean have fun hosting your own

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<v Speaker 1>podcast from Montreal. That'll do it for this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>help I Suck at dating. I'm Vanessa and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to miss you. Guys, We're gonna miss you. And I'm Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Dean and a big thank you to Omaha

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<v Speaker 1>Stakes for their delicious delicious steaks. Be sure to send

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<v Speaker 1>something to your father for Father's Day. I'm sure he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna love it. Um what Mark said earlier. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a Facebook group. Be sure to subscribe, but we still

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<v Speaker 1>need listening to emails to be sent to I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating at I heeart Media dot com. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot to fill out my first week of the Bachelor brackett.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you we gotta do that. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>on there next week. We've fill out the Brackett. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interactive. We're gonna be there for the Facebook group.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you everybody for joining that Facebook. And we still

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<v Speaker 1>have not figured out a prize. Perhaps we can just

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<v Speaker 1>put our heads together and get one for you to

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<v Speaker 1>settle for next week. Um, but there will be a prize.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be a prize. Anyways, I'll do it for

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<v Speaker 1>this week's episode of Help I Suck at Dating. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been Vanessa, Jared and Dean. Be sure to tune

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<v Speaker 1>in next week where we'll be Vanessa list but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>suck a little bit less. Follow Help I Sucket Dating

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<v Speaker 1>with Dean Anglert on I Heart radio, or subscribe wherever

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