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Speaker 2: I accept that.

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Speaker 1: Thunderous applause. Turn your key, sir, turn your key.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting retro on them.

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Speaker 1: Look at you right going back to turn your key.

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Speaker 2: Turn, turn your key, sir, turn your key.

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Speaker 1: What does he say? Something like, I'm going to I

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Speaker 1: thirty million people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 1: War games, war games, if you know, by the way,

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Speaker 1: war games should be on your mind these days, because

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Speaker 2: Robots taking over computers, taking over the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your game.

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Speaker 2: You guys were joking about Chad GPT. I kept telling y'all, yo,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's gon turn into freaking the terminator.

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Speaker 1: It is. No one was joking about it. It is. And

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Speaker 2: Robots jumping around and room at the Boston Institute. Imagine

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Speaker 2: one of them bad boys going upside your head. That's

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Speaker 1: My friend had access to chat GBT five, which I

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Speaker 3: I Oh no, I'll send that back to Beta for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is the only thing now, man.

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Speaker 1: No, this is is not the only thing. The world

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Speaker 2: But okay, So the theory is AI becomes AI really

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know about that. I just know that

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Speaker 1: introduction I sent you it's getting better and that's old

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Speaker 1: you have to pay for it, right, Dan, do you

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Speaker 1: have to pay for it? I guess tachy t B

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I think we as people have to rise up and

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Speaker 1: I know, but what do we do? Darren?

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Speaker 2: Here we go to mate. This sounds like the Matrix

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, Okay, what do I got? I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, blast the lock open.

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Speaker 2: We got some rope, we got a barrel, we.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been able to do the missions if

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Speaker 2: And that ban is all over the place, man, Like,

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Speaker 2: You've finally gotten to Star Wars.

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Speaker 1: Donald's ai is. Donald's avatar is the new lead of

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Speaker 1: But that's coming, man, that's coming. I mean, there's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean I mean that are realistic

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Speaker 2: Did you see Guardians at a Galaxy? Why are you

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Speaker 3: But those people are not be able to retrain themselves

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Speaker 2: Yes, it brings me back to my point. There's no human

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Speaker 1: Yes, and it's happening. I just told you a story

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Speaker 2: That's it's happening, right, And there will be uprising. You're

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Speaker 3: That's why I started saying that there's going to be

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Speaker 2: But this time they fight back with no conscience. This

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Speaker 1: In house arrests everybody. I'm sorry it went dark. It's

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Speaker 1: I just like the idea that your your avatar finally

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Speaker 2: You should totally see that movie?

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Speaker 2: No, but you got to come to my grave and

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll meet you with You know it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: That's right, baby, you know it's gonna be good. Met

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fire, all right. I want to pivots

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Speaker 1: whole cookie thing because Sarah says right off the bat

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00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: that she makes Sorry, let me get to it, Elliott.

440
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: She makes one point, she makes a dozen cookies, and

441
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: she eats one point five cookies a day, so that

442
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: the last eight days I can't do that, just like JD,

443
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: who ate him instantly and then he's in the fetal

444
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: position on the couch. That's me, that's you too, Donald.

445
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: I know, I fucking devour some cookies.

446
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. Like if you peanut M

447
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: and ms on my count on my countertop. It's just

448
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: not gonna last. It just can't be in that can't

449
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 1: can't be in the house, can't be in the house.

450
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: I want to go back to the Yes, great opening

451
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: walk and talk with Cox and Kelso that was it

452
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 2: was a wonder for a bit and then they cut

453
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 2: off into other things, but uh, great walking talk. And

454
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: so it opens up and we're in the hospital doesn't

455
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: have a cheap of medicine, and things are going crazy.

456
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 2: People are stealing things, people are doing whatever they want.

457
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, the janitor is in the

458
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: O R Yes during surgery.

459
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: Yes, and Turks like get out of here, and he's like,

460
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: let me just touch the heart because there's no chief

461
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: of medicine. Everyone's fucking yeah.

462
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: Also, uh, one thing that was the pretending to have

463
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 2: a phone in his ear.

464
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was fun.

465
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: So there were three callbacks in the cold open alone

466
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 2: the piano, Uh you with the JD with the piano

467
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 2: playing I'm no Superman and then it coming back. Uh

468
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: uh that was how did it come back again.

469
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: When you break it out?

470
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: So y, that's right?

471
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: No, right, And I run in and there goes has

472
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: a JD has a piano, Matt that Elliot has rigged

473
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: by the door as a burglar alarm. I walk in

474
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: and then I accidentally play I'm no Superman, and I'm like,

475
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: that's catchy, And that's not why she put it there, Yeah,

476
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: as a burglar alarm, right, Joel, Yes.

477
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: I thought I thought JD put it there for that,

478
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: because she cuts down that.

479
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 5: She said she was afraid of burglars. She was cooking alone.

480
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, So it wasn't for Turk. It was

481
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: for burglars at all, right.

482
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 1: But then but then later they know the whole reason,

483
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 1: uh that JD. JD has a fantasy. JD has a

484
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: fantasy that Turk throws a gas a bomb into the apartment,

485
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: kills them both, then has his gas on so he

486
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: can steal the cookies, right, and then he can't even

487
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: wait to get out of the house. He takes his

488
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: mask off too soon, eats the cookie and then dies

489
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: himself and says too well, it was worth it.

490
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's sleeping at night. Elliott and j D are

491
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: sleeping at night in bed and you hear a scale

492
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: and the scale goes off, and Elliot goes, oh my god, JD,

493
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: someone's in the house, and j D yells, leave those

494
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: cookies alone, Turk, And then and then, but the funny

495
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: part is at this.

496
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: The scale, the scale goes up and then it goes down.

497
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: When you get I laughed out loud when it goes

498
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: Turk get out of here.

499
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: Many times. But Turk really was there. He stole the cookies.

500
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: He's outside eating, Yeah, the cookies, which I don't think

501
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: is good for your diabetes to eat a whole dozen cookies. Hey,

502
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't know much as a fake doctor, but I

503
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: don't think my stepfather has diabetes. And he was munch

504
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: he was munching on desserts. And he's got this little

505
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: alarm like you know nowadays, you have this thing on

506
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: your side and then it warns your phone if your

507
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: if your insulin levels are off. That shit was beeping

508
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: like hell on Mother's Day.

509
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: And he was like, I don't care. I'm in it

510
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: to win it.

511
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: No, he knew what to do, but he's devouring some

512
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: cookies and.

513
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: You hear like, Okay, this is what I don't understand.

514
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: J D and Elliott are dating. They've been dating for

515
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: a week, but they haven't had lived together. But they're

516
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: not banging.

517
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: That's not realistic. They say they're gonna they say they're

518
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: gonna take it slow, but they're living together and back

519
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: in love for a week and they haven't had sexual relations.

520
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: She made them cookies, but god, that would have been

521
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: we would have been fucking like that. Oh you made

522
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: chocolate chip cookies. A word, A word? You know what.

523
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: I love you girl.

524
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not realistic. They're in bed together,

525
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: sleeping and they're a couple, and they not to mention

526
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: that they've had lots of sex before and they're not

527
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: having sex. But okay, they say they're trying to take

528
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: it slow.

529
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So the piano was the first callback. Second callback

530
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: was the pretend phone. Yea. Cox is walking in the

531
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: hospital and he's acting like he's on the phone so

532
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to talk to Kelso. He puts the

533
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 2: phone away. Okay, I'll talk to you later. They walk

534
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: and talk. Finally, Cox gets on Kelso's nerves and Kelso

535
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: takes out his pretent flip phone and says, oh, I

536
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: got to take this and walks away. Yeah, that's a call.

537
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: That was another callback. And then the janitor trying to

538
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: be the doctor. He's a doctor in the r and

539
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: then as Cox walks by him, he's still a doctor

540
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: going someplace else.

541
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was all in the first.

542
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: It was callback, callback, callback, all in the first five

543
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: minutes of the show.

544
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was funny.

545
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: And he even starts it even starts with Cox going wow,

546
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: he bought it back.

547
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, acknowledging the we should mention. It was directed by

548
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: Gail Mancuso of Ohosa. I think she won an Enny

549
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: for Modern Family at least one. She became one of

550
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: the big Modern Family directors, but she was one of

551
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: our favorite directors. Cal Mancuso and written by Clarence Livingston

552
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: My Cookie Pants Season eight, We're mispronouncing endoscopy the whole

553
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: episode scrubs WICKI taught me Donald, you don't say it,

554
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: but every actor that says it is saying it wrong,

555
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: which is not good for fake doctors. Real JD missed this.

556
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: I think we call it, I think we see endoscopy

557
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: and it's endoscopy and we're doctors.

558
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: I think everybody says endoscopy. Even doctors say I'm going

559
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: to go get an endoscopy.

560
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Endoscopy if you're curious. It's the correct way to say it.

561
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: And all the characters in this show who are doctors

562
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: say it wrong. So real JD must have been TL Truvor.

563
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: I must still say endoscopy when I'm on auditions and stuff.

564
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: I feel like real JD must have been working on

565
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: an actual heart that day. Okay, so there's a lot

566
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: going on. Joe is still being classic Joe Denise, and

567
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: she says that mister Lawton, who's a favorite patient of JD's,

568
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: is heart disease, is a buzzkill. So she's really just

569
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: unrealistically horrible with her bedside matter.

570
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: But she shows she shows uh that she's starting to

571
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: soften in early on an episode with the pillow and stuff.

572
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: I noticed that right away she.

573
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: Does use a pillow, which we're supposed to notice, but

574
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: she's I don't know, no offense to everyone who wrote this,

575
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: but I just find it a little bit that she's

576
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: cartoonishly rude.

577
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's cartoonishly rude, more is she

578
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: just doesn't want to connect with the patients, and she

579
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: uses this as at least that's how I looked at it.

580
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: She looked at it as a this is her defense

581
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: mechanism from doing that. Right.

582
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get to that. When she opens up

583
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: to JD. Cox is offered the chief of medicine position.

584
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: He tells Jordan she's very excited more money. She wants money.

585
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: She wants the nanny to have a nanny.

586
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, so that she doesn't have to listen to

587
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: the nanny's She.

588
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: Doesn't want to have to talk to the nanny her

589
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: own question. There's another episode where she says something about

590
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: how the nanny's mother died and she's been avoiding her

591
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: all day so she doesn't have to console her. Jordan

592
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: really has a big heart. Cox pretends to care about

593
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: JD and Barbie being back together, and JD's trying to

594
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: convince himself not to fall for the trick. Don't believe him,

595
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: but then he does. He's so happy to share, and

596
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: we learned that Cox is just fucking and he doesn't care.

597
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Judy Rays is not in this episode, as we know.

598
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: As we know, in season eight, everybody took at least

599
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: one episode off, and Carla has left the country, and Elliott,

600
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: in a very funny monologue, Sarah says, I know that

601
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: you're she's on the phone talking leaving a message for Carla,

602
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: and she says, I know that your aunt did not

603
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: fall out of that balloon on purpose.

604
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was interesting that Carla was going

605
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: going through things that Elliott's character would go through.

606
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: I know.

607
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: But so in this, in the world of Scrubs, Carla.

608
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: Went home without Turk to Chicago. Is it Chicago, that's

609
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: where she's from? If she went home, she said, of

610
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: the country.

611
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: Though no, I think she went to a Dominican Republic,

612
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: or so she went to the dr for the last time, Turk,

613
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm Dominican. That's always remember what her what her ethnicity

614
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: is she But listen, in the world of Scrubs, not

615
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: in the fantasy. She's gone home to investigate her aunt

616
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: falling out of a balloon and whether it was on

617
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: purpose or accidental.

618
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: But then she's like, but then Elliott gets upset at

619
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: the answer machine because she knows that Carla would be

620
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: giving her an attitude at that moment.

621
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Right, Sarah's very funny in that, Yeah.

622
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 2: Very funny and she's asked she she's calling to because

623
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: she can't come up with the way to seduce JD

624
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: that night.

625
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: Right, she promised him a sexy sex night, crazy sex night.

626
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Right because they haven't had sex. They're living together and

627
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: they're not bagging.

628
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, I forgot that piece of it. They

629
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: haven't had sex, and if they're gonna finally have sex,

630
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: she wants to be really sexy and have it be

631
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: particularly naughty. And she says that she got in a

632
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: fight with her waxer. I don't know how she got

633
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: in a fight with her waxer, but she did get

634
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: in a fight with her waxer. And now she has

635
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: a quote rash on her bajingo that looks like a

636
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: thousand tiny spider bites. So in this world, the waxer

637
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: took revenge on Elliott for some conversation they had. She

638
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: got mad at her and then hurt her jingle.

639
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Is that possible? Like, I get it if you get

640
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 2: like ingrowns. So like I can't shave my face because

641
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: I get with a straight razor because I get ingrowned,

642
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: So I have to shave it with uh, you know,

643
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: clippers and stuff like that. Electrically. Right, if you get wax,

644
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: you usually don't have that problem, right.

645
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: Unless we get waxed against the grain.

646
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: Now learning, So you're.

647
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: Learning, Joelle, what you're saying is the waxer because she

648
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: was livid at Elliott waxed her against the grain.

649
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like, Oh.

650
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe or.

651
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: Wax what okay? So and in ferior? What is it?

652
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: It breaks the hair off?

653
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 5: You don't.

654
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't pull it all out.

655
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 5: It's not as like so wax. You have to reach

656
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: a certain temperature when you're melting it, you know what

657
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 5: I mean, in order for to apply it that you

658
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 5: get like a smooth rip off. But if you only

659
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 5: like partially melt and it's cool, it's not gonna give

660
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: you the full like rip effect and totally like residue

661
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: on your skin and they'll be like patchy hairs and stuff.

662
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. Wax waxing sounds amazing

663
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: up until the ripoff. It sounds like it's the best

664
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: thing ever.

665
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: If you have a good person doing it, it can

666
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 5: be great. It's totally fine.

667
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: It sounds like they put like a warm massage with

668
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: wax around your digitals and then out of nowhere.

669
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I feel so bad for women that choose to do

670
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: this that they have to have that experience on their

671
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: labia majora.

672
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 5: You get up when you develop a very close relationship

673
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 5: with your waxer. It could be called you know, it's

674
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 5: just it's a whatever experience.

675
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Like Donald, have you ever had anything waxed on your body? No?

676
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking about do you think people wax their scrotums?

677
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: Oh?

678
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that does fucking hurt.

679
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: You don't ever pull a hair out, like from your

680
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: balls or anything like that. I do a little.

681
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: I do a little manscaping, but I don't do wax.

682
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: That sounds horrible.

683
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: Have you ever just reached down into your pants twisted

684
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: your hair and then pull No?

685
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: Why do you do that?

686
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: What?

687
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: Why would you?

688
00:33:51,640 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: Curiosity are? That would work? If you want the Denzel

689
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: and glory to here, you just pull out scor hair.

690
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: You ever just say to somebody? Do you ever just

691
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: say to somebody give me a spanking?

692
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: No? Not me?

693
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 2: Have you? Wait?

694
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Donald?

695
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: No? No?

696
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: If you do, I mean that's great, no judgment.

697
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: I just want to know your truth. Wait, Donald, I

698
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: have a question. Would you ever get if for the podcast?

699
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: Would you consider getting your scrotum and taint and shaft baxed.

700
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: No, because I get ingruns.

701
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: But what if we did it live on the podcast

702
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: for entertainment, for the for the guests, for the listeners,

703
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: and the non video, just audio.

704
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: And the words of Randy Jackson. That's a no for me.

705
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 4: Dog.

706
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: What about your enus? What about your between your cheeks?

707
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a no for me. Dog. All right.

708
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: I was trying to make some good, some good entertainment

709
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: for the listeners.

710
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: That's not entertainment. That's freaking torture. Saying. Look what we

711
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: want to do, y'all is we're gonna torture Donald and

712
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna laugh at this. Motherfucker.

713
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: No, I would do it too. I would do it too.

714
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying that for our listeners because we love them

715
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: so much. You could we could bring this, We bring

716
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: the zoom recorder to a waxer and we both get

717
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: our change.

718
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: I've seen how harry you are.

719
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm not that hairy.

720
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: What are you talking about in your crack area?

721
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: No?

722
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: No, what he just looked at is shite. Okay, somebody's

723
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: working out somebody too.

724
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: Good, bro.

725
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: I've been doing the cold plunge too, cold plunge sauna,

726
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: cold plunch sauna. What are you doing that at at

727
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Watts House? And you do fifteen You do fifteen

728
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: minutes in the sauna, two minutes in like thirty nine

729
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: degree water, and then fifteen minutes in the sauna and

730
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: then two minutes in the cold plunge again, and you

731
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: feel so good. You feel high on life, and it

732
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 1: also increases your metabolism and has all these other benefits. Shit,

733
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: you want to join me, I'm gonna try, and I'm

734
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: gonna you can come sometime. I got up to two minutes,

735
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: dude in the water. You got to take your mind

736
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: to a really zen place. You have to quiet your

737
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: brain down and you focus on your breath. Remember Johnny

738
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: C was talking about it. I sent Johnny C a

739
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: video my first attempt, and he just berated me. It's like,

740
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: what the hell I sent my video and I was

741
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: panicked my first time, And you panic the first time

742
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: because it's it's tough, and he's like, what the hell

743
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: are you doing? Who the hell is advising you? It

744
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: was like Cox, It was like Cox and JD. He

745
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: was like, this is fucking ridiculous. Don't send me this ship.

746
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: You got to come to my house and I'm gonna

747
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: show you how to do it. And I was like, dude,

748
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: no notes on take one, Broy. We should take a break.

749
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these words.

750
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: Zach eat eats balls, Zach, and we're.

751
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: Back, all right, back into the show scrubs so.

752
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Kelso warns Cox that it's not easy to be the

753
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: chief of medicine. Cox gets cold feet, yes, just before

754
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: the act break, yeah, and decides, you know what, I

755
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: don't want to do this anymore. I take it back.

756
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would. He tells me everyone's gonna hate you.

757
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: It's an extraordinary amount of work and added to your

758
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: already insane amount of work. Plus you have a family.

759
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: And also the bonus, the cherry on top, is that

760
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: everyone in this hospital will hate you. And Cox, who

761
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: was really liking the idea and the honor and you know,

762
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: the status of the I'm sure the rays of the position,

763
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: totally gets cold feet. Kelso gets in his head. The

764
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: other thing that happens for the act break is that

765
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: JD tells Joe that she's not a good doctor.

766
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 2: Well, let's go back and say why.

767
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: He tells her this Okay, sorry, you're right. There's a

768
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: whole thing about She orders endoscopy said correctly on mister Lawton,

769
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: and Jady's like, no, that's a very painful procedure. The man,

770
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: it's totally what the hell's wrong with you? And she's like,

771
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: who cares if it cause him pain? We gotta do

772
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: the fucking test kind of attitude, and Jed's like, that's

773
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: not my vibe. I like the guy, and I'm I

774
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt him, and he really gives it

775
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: to her, fucking rails into her and says, if you

776
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: can't fucking learn, She.

777
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: Goes does it anyway? Yes, she says she. He says,

778
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't want you to do it, and she does

779
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: it anyway, right, And then he steps to her and

780
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: says some pretty harsh things. Yeah, and it's about to.

781
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: It's about to. He's telling her, are you going to

782
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 2: regret this day that you crossed me? You should have

783
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: you know. He's given her the whole monologue about no,

784
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: about how he's right and she's wrong for doing what

785
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: she's done. And someone comes up to Denise and says,

786
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: you know, good catch with the endoscopy. That was a

787
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: smart thing. To do there and right, like I said,

788
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: discussion and uh and uh and JD has to eat crow.

789
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: Yes he does, and he and he and he he's

790
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: very Uh well you did get.

791
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Very apologetic, he's very Did he get to what.

792
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: Well did you get to the part where he she

793
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: realizes that she has stomach cancer.

794
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the when the and and and I'm confusing,

795
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: just hit you just hit dos and doscopy and when

796
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: the endoscopy this guy.

797
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: This fucking what you're trying to get into one day,

798
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: shoon what you're trying to do.

799
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: Well, it reveals that the that the man has cancer stomach.

800
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Right, so Joe actually saved his fucking life. And j

801
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: D looks like an idiot because you know, he he

802
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: really was. He was being too sensitive. He was he

803
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: was looking out for the man's feelings as opposed to

804
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: doing the correct by the book test. So so Joe's hardenedness,

805
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: her her coldness, I should say, actually ended up saving

806
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: this man's life because uh, you know, she's the polar

807
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: opposite of JD. And and in the in the end,

808
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: he'll admit that that they both actually could learn something

809
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: from one another.

810
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: And Elliott has now recruited uh Turk to help her

811
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: with her.

812
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: Sexy night.

813
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's the way to put it with

814
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 2: j D. When I was thinking though when that, when

815
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: I watched it, I was like, well, who else would

816
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: she go to? Who else is going to know? I know?

817
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: But it is funny when she's like, help me plan

818
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: what would JD want for his sexiest night? But don't

819
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: you think tries to walk away really like you wouldn't

820
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: know what I would want for my sexiest night.

821
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure for your sexiest night, Zack.

822
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably could figure it out. You probably could

823
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: figure it out. Come on, bro, I don't talk about it, Okay, Yeah,

824
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say.

825
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: All I would one is this eat these bowls?

826
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 5: Zach?

827
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: How funny is it? This is the hardest. I laughed

828
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: this whole episode. When the Janitor's talking about his grandpa

829
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: and how his grandpa said to him, he said, quote Janitor.

830
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: So the great Jade Janitor's grandpa calls him Janitor, called

831
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: him Janitor.

832
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 2: When he was a kid. Well, he called him Jenner

833
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: because he's not dead yet.

834
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: He's right, that's funny too, But he goes Janitor. Oh no,

835
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: I think that's his dad that's upstairs, Janitor. This is

836
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: his grandpa.

837
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: Janitor's dead. It's his grandpa that's upstairs. He's not dead. Yeah,

838
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: he's not dead.

839
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Wow, Neil Flynn's grandpa is alive. That's a that's an

840
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: old fellow the show. Okay, no, I'm saying that Janitor's

841
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: grandfather is probably up there.

842
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: Janitor's grandfather isn't in the building. That dude is dead, man,

843
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: he's making this ship up.

844
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: Oh okay, God, it come on, bro, guys. I forgot,

845
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: I forgot, I forgot. Wait. So anyway, the point is

846
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: janetor every time an angry woman storms out, another one's

847
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: storms in. And he establishes that, and yeah, and then

848
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: and then he says, and of course Jordan walks in

849
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: super pissed off, and he's Janner's proud of himself, and

850
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: he says that one's for you. Pop up and he

851
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: points to the sky when meaning heaven. And then he

852
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: says to JD, I believe he's not dead. He's upstairs,

853
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: all right.

854
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: I love that. There's a freaking Rocky three moment. What's

855
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: that when Jordan steps to Cox and gives him the

856
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: pep talk. There's that one, and then also when when

857
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: Kelso steps to Cox also and he has to admit

858
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: that he's afraid. Yeah, that's Rocky like a mother Frocky three.

859
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: He's dodging around all of these reasons why he doesn't

860
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: want to do it. I want to be liked, I

861
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: want all of this stuff. I don't want all of

862
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: this stuff. I don't want this. I don't want this. Well,

863
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: what is it. We've got this, we've got this, we've

864
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: got this, But what we don't have, rock is we

865
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: don't have the truth. I'm afraid. You want to hear

866
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: me saying I'm afraid.

867
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: That's Rocky three, Rocky three. Well, there you go, and

868
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: that's what Cox has. Yeah, he's afraid.

869
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with anything else. It has

870
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the fact that the money is more.

871
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with the fact that he's

872
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: not confident. It has nothing to do with the fact

873
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: that people are gonna hate him. It has nothing to

874
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: do with any of that, like it has for everybody

875
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: who makes excuses when success is at the front door

876
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 2: and you're scared to fucking open it. And he's having

877
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: that moment that we all have, and he's lucky to

878
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: have that. That's what's great about television is that he's

879
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: lucky to have people around him that will support him

880
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: and make sure that he doesn't fall on his face

881
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: when he takes when he starts this big adventure, and

882
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: it's really fucking it's really that's In watching the show,

883
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, would Scrubs have done it like

884
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: this before? Like how would have we gotten all the

885
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: way to here before? Because this way it seemed really wholesome,

886
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, seemed wrapped up in a

887
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: nice little bow and everything like that. And we've and

888
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: and before we got to ABC, it felt like on

889
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: NBC nothing was ever wrapped up in a in a

890
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: nice little bow.

891
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: I disagree with you. There were so many nice, sweet,

892
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: wrapped up bows at the end of it.

893
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 2: But it always there was always some form of tragedy

894
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: in order to get to that, you know what I mean.

895
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: And this one, the dude doesn't die. He has stomach cancer.

896
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: You've guys caught it, you know what I mean.

897
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he lives. We diagnosed him.

898
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: As of right now, he's alive. Cox got the job.

899
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: Everything's pretty hunky dory. You come home to a perfect night, and.

900
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: You're going too fast. So JD has an intervention with Joe,

901
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: or at least a heart to heart, and he calls

902
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: her the mayor of crazy Town, and she she says,

903
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: stop doing that, you know. She finally kind of again,

904
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: I guess in your analogy, has a bit of a

905
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: rocky moment and she says, I want to be pushed

906
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: to be better. Stop stop, you know, she said, I don't.

907
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm very good at the nuts and bolts. I know

908
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: how to diagnose, I know how to to do the science.

909
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't feel comfortable with the bedside manner,

910
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: and I don't want you to stop pushing me. She

911
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: finally blurts out, and JD points out in a really

912
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: sweet montage that every doctor has their flaws. Cox is

913
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: getting is constantly getting his own way Elliott, and we

914
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: cut to him doing that. Elliott is fighting all of

915
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: her neurosis and we see her doing that and JD

916
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: says that, you know, he wants to. He wanted to

917
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: spare a patient a painful procedure that actually ended up

918
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: diagnosing him with cancer that could save his life, so

919
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: he cares too much. And then she says I'm the

920
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of the dude and you're the chick or something

921
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: like that. That's what she says, and he goes, I'm

922
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: not really getting that simile, Joe. At least we see

923
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: a limmer that Joe is gonna maybe turn the corner, I.

924
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: Mean a spoiler alert, she'll be back season nine.

925
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the Todd thing. Elliott's knocking on the

926
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: door of the surgical of the operating room, and Todd says,

927
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: if it doesn't hurt you, you're not doing it right.

928
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, meaning.

929
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: About sex. Not even that means, but it's I guess.

930
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: I guess Todd doesn't have sex that doesn't hurt.

931
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: I mean, it hurts so good. It hurts. Hold on,

932
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: it hurts so good. Sounds like that's a term that's

933
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: used all the time, isn't it. Oh, it hurts so good.

934
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: I know Todd. That's what Kelly LeBrock says.

935
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: In Weird Science, we learn one more thing about Todd

936
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: in that he doesn't feel sexually satisfied unless he's in pain.

937
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: There must be a lot of hair pulling.

938
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: Or maybe you know those people put those clamps on nipples.

939
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: I bet Todd's into that. No judgment Todd no judgment. Okay, now, car,

940
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I got goosebumps. If you're gonna

941
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: put on Josh Raiden's song, I'd rather be with you.

942
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: I need to be cold. I need to jump in

943
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: the cold.

944
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: No, I need to I want to be bold, need

945
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: to jump in the cold. Baugh to wanna girl holder

946
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: with a girl like you? Dan, will you remind me

947
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: let's put that song at the end of the show,

948
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: since Josh Raiden will allow us to, uh, and I'll

949
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: do one of my old school talk ups to it

950
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: is that the expression Daniel a talk kay talking up

951
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: to the end, to the end. Yeah, remind me to

952
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: talk up the Josh Raiden song. I haven't talked up

953
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: a song in so long. Daniel excited, So Cox is

954
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: afraid we covered that. Kelso has to go, oh, that

955
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: was sweet. So the combination of Josh Raiden's song and

956
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Kelso telling Cox that he's the one who recommended him,

957
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: that gave me like full body goosebumps. I thought that

958
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: was so sweet, you know what?

959
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: And that was the one thing I did see coming.

960
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: I knew and for some reason, maybe it's because the

961
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: way it played out, I saw that coming I was

962
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: the one that freaking I'm the one that put the

963
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: recommendation in. I'm the one that said you could do this.

964
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: I saw that coming. What I didn't see coming was

965
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: him trying to deter him from taking the job. I

966
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: didn't see that coming. I saw, I saw. I skipped

967
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: all of the middle part and jumped right to the end.

968
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

969
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Well, And also we reveal that they're kind of becoming friends, right,

970
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: which is a sweet moment when Cox is declared the

971
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: new chief and Jordan is so happy and they hug,

972
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: and then you pull out to reveal that Kelse was

973
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: trying to join the hug, which was like a very

974
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 1: very gd thing. Too soon, Yeah, it's too soon.

975
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: And also we find out Turk cries during sex.

976
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah we do. I skipped that. Yeah, you that's what

977
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: sets up not me, Turk. Have you ever cried during sex?

978
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: There's no shame in crime acting.

979
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: No, No, I've never cried during sex.

980
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: To quote the TV show Scrubs, there's no shame in

981
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: crime acxing.

982
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: Let's put that. Well, I'm put this out there right now.

983
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: If I'm having sex with somebody and they start crying,

984
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop having sex with them.

985
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: No, I think that, I think the implication. No, I

986
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: think in this the show, Carla reports that you cry

987
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: from probably just being in love. Where you cry from

988
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: you know, you're so moved that you you crime acts.

989
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: That's what sets the Todd up to say what happens

990
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: is Elliott yells through the operating room window. Carla says

991
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: that you cry sometimes, and then you're embarrassed, and then me,

992
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: not me, then Turks embarrassed. Oh my god, shut up,

993
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Turks embarrassing, and then the Todd says, if it doesn't hurt,

994
00:49:51,719 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: you're not doing it right. Oh my god, love Rob Maschio,

995
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: I miss missed that guy. We have a special guest,

996
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: did Joelle? Right?

997
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: We do have a guess.

998
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 5: They don't know if they're here yet.

999
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: Okay, you see the outtakes with Neil at the end

1000
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: of the show, No, what happened? He does the whole

1001
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: pop pop speech. He goes, he's upstairs. Yeah he's not,

1002
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: he's not he's upstairs. He does one like that, he goes,

1003
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: he's not dead, he's upstairs on the roof.

1004
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: They chose, they chose the best one of bet because

1005
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: he's not dead. He's upstairs, long pause, dying, I'll read

1006
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: it some more trivia for you. The amount of sugar

1007
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: in the cookies turk stole would likely harm him pretty

1008
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: bad due to his diabetes. Mister cookie Pants was the

1009
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: name of the puppet owned by doctor David Norris in

1010
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: the episode My White Whale.

1011
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: Chris Chris Maloney, Right, Chris maloneyes Chris Maloney.

1012
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: Yet Chris, doctor Kelso says he's been rocking his muffin

1013
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: slacks since he retired, even though he had never before

1014
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: been seen wearing them. Uh, and we've seen him after

1015
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: he's retired. So that's what Scrubs Wiki has to say

1016
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: about this episode. Oh, our and our friend Aaron, who

1017
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: was a background person for many, many many episodes, plays

1018
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: nurse Paps and the one who comes and says good catch.

1019
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: Aaron got a line, Aaron if it is in many, many,

1020
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: many episodes of Scrubs, and was a very nice woman.

1021
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a break, and when we

1022
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: come back, we have a special guest for you. You're

1023
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna be very excited.

1024
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Fuck your sound effects machine and we're

1025
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: budk is my best opera.

1026
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: Do you know how many people babies that were latching

1027
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: just unlatched.

1028
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 2: Well, if they unlatched, they unlatched with a smile on

1029
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: their face because.

1030
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: They know are you are you playing? Are you playing Zelda?

1031
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: I am not playing Zelda yet, Daniel.

1032
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Houzelda incredible, it's your favorite game.

1033
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 3: It's really up there, It's really really up there. They

1034
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: made Breath of the Wild even better, which is like

1035
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: hard to that's high.

1036
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: And that and that and now I'm about to go

1037
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: smoke a blunt and fucking plays Elda.

1038
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: Oh really, you enjoy?

1039
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 3: I hope you enjoy.

1040
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Are you gonna pair the blunt with Zelda?

1041
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna pair the bong hit with Zelda. I

1042
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: take I'm gonna go. I'm gonna do a bong hit

1043
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: plays Elda.

1044
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 4: Enjoy?

1045
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: Okay, hopefully my kids don't get home from school before

1046
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: they ruined all your fun. They fucking take all of

1047
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: the fun out of everything.

1048
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: Don'kay, you're a great advertisement for having children.

1049
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: You want to get high, don't have kids.

1050
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: My friend was over yesterday and I was just tossing

1051
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: my dog's favorite toy in the pool, and the dog

1052
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: was leaping into the pool and swimming, and it was

1053
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: so fun and and he has a very young child,

1054
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: and I this is it, right, this is what being

1055
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: a parent is. Right. You just toss the ball and

1056
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: they jump in the water and smile. And he's like, yeah,

1057
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: it's just that easy. He's like, he's like, have you

1058
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: ever been up at four forty five? Do you know

1059
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: what four forty five am looks like? Ladies and gentlemen,

1060
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: A very special guest, Doctor Brick aka doctor Penis. Let

1061
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: him in, doctor Penis, everybody, this is what.

1062
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 2: Doctor Darren Brick. Let me wait, Brick is a great

1063
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: name for a penis. Doctor. I'm just gonna put it

1064
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: out there.

1065
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: Will you welcome the man? Welcome the man in before

1066
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: you make a sex joke.

1067
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: He say, hey, doctor Darren Brick, love your name.

1068
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: Doctor Brick. Thanks for coming back on. You know, I

1069
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: was thinking I told Joel that, I was thinking, like

1070
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: what you You were so valuable to the podcast last

1071
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: time you came on, and I think we should I'm

1072
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: sure not everyone heard that episode, and we should have

1073
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: you back on because you know, men need to get

1074
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: their shit checked out, their their prostates and and everything,

1075
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: and we could do a public service here on fake

1076
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: doctors and remind men to get their prostates checked.

1077
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: Now you just got your prostate checked, right, Zach.

1078
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm having some prostate issues too, and that's probably what

1079
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 1: inspired me to have you on. I actually like Donald

1080
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: anything that happens to me. I think I'm dying and

1081
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: I have cancer, and I think I've been diagnosed with prostatitis,

1082
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: which means I would know with no infection or anything.

1083
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: The doctor just told me, I just have to It's

1084
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: all stress related, he said, very people with stress and

1085
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Speaker 1: people who do tons of stuff and are he said.

1086
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: He said, med students get it all the time that

1087
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: you can get an inflammation in the prostate. Can you

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00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: can you weigh on this? I don't have any infection

1089
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: he tested for that?

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00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: Good? Yeah, I mean I would be the first thing

1091
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 4: I actually wrote a review paper on, like chron across

1092
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 4: titus chronic pelvic pain in men.

1093
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: So I, oh, you're the perfect person for this. Yeah,

1094
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: there's right before you answer, I just wanted to say

1095
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: that to men. I also wanted to just share I

1096
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: want to talk about prostect cancer and making sure men

1097
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: get checked, but I also want to do a public

1098
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: service for our audience, because I bet there's a lot

1099
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: of men out there who have felt this feeling, and

1100
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: the feeling is that you always have to pee. And

1101
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: I of course went to, oh my god, I have

1102
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: some sort of tumor and I'm dying. But when I

1103
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: got it checked out, I believe I have a chronic prostatitis.

1104
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: After a lot of going to a lot of doctors,

1105
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: but I thought that you could maybe speak to people

1106
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: about what are the symptoms of this and and what

1107
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: the hell you can do, because it doesn't seem to

1108
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: me like you can do much.

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00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 4: For sure, there are things that you can do that

1110
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 4: have that have like successful treatment outcomes, which I'm happy

1111
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 4: to talk about. I think to start all, definitely, I'll

1112
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 4: say men in general are loath to go to doctors

1113
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 4: for not just zerroologists, you know, primal care ment health,

1114
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 4: everything else in between. And you know, I think there's

1115
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: some sort of manliness that people think, or you're too busy,

1116
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: you know, or you make an appointment in the doctor's

1117
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: ployment is six months into the future, and it's like,

1118
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: who can even think that far into the future because doctors,

1119
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 4: you know, the schedules are so packed, but it's super important.

1120
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: There's no reason to suffer, you know, even you're not

1121
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 4: you don't have cancer, but even quality of life issues.

1122
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 4: Things that we that I manage specifically are most equality

1123
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 4: of life, or rectile dysfunction, penal curvature, low testosterone. None

1124
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 4: of those things are necessarily going to kill you, but

1125
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 4: you know they make your life better if you can

1126
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: treat them. From a chronic pelvic pain, chronic prostatitis, I

1127
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 4: you know, I see it in a lot of young

1128
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: people who've been treated with antibiotics for years, and turns

1129
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 4: out you don't really have an infection your urinary symptoms.

1130
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: You know. The first thing we would want to do

1131
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: is get your history and see there can be behavioral

1132
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 4: things that you're doing. Drinking drinking a lot of liquid

1133
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: in general make it be more. But drinking alcohol, a

1134
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 4: lot of alcohol specifically a lot of coffee, coffee, Cafe

1135
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: Beverly can irritate the bladder.

1136
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: So even even like two cups a day, I would

1137
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: say two is probably because I cut.

1138
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: You can do two cups a day, send you to

1139
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: the bath. That's real. No, no, no, no, he's not.

1140
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: Talking about He's talking about the the irritation of the

1141
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: prostate being caused by caffeine, right, and more of.

1142
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 4: The bladder, you know, because the bladder and prostrate are

1143
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: in proximity. You know, like constipation can also cause it

1144
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: because the rectum is right behind that. So pigeons have

1145
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: issues of constipation, will manage that. So these the first

1146
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 4: things we usually talk about, our behavioral stuff that you

1147
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 4: can do that have no risk and minimal cost and

1148
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 4: probably boost your health if you're you know, cutting down.

1149
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: What about what about ejaculation? Because I was told that

1150
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: ejaculating often helps it, and and and.

1151
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: Don't you ruin this for me?

1152
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 4: Doc?

1153
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Don't you Donald's gonna go tell Casey that he has prostatitis,

1154
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: So don't fuck this up, get hurt it.

1155
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: But the problem there are a lot of people who

1156
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: have this chroniccrost titus who when they ejaculate, have severe pain.

1157
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: So that's one of the symptoms and that stucks, you know,

1158
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 4: if it's.

1159
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: Gonna I don't know. I don't know that God willing,

1160
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: thank God.

1161
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. So from for for chroniccrass titus, there's no one

1162
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 4: treatment like take this pill, do this thing and you'll

1163
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: feel better. It's more based on the symptoms that you have.

1164
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: So for instance, if you have you know, if you

1165
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 4: have pain in the like super pubic peraneum like between

1166
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: the balls and penus, or ball pain or like growing pain,

1167
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 4: that kind of thing. There are so many pelvic muscles

1168
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: that have to work in conjunction to help you pee,

1169
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 4: to help you ejaculate, to help you have bowel movement,

1170
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: that they can get over active and cause a lot

1171
00:58:54,440 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 4: of pain, cause difficulty urinating, cause difficulty cooping, and you know,

1172
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 4: and other urinary issues. So the first thing that we

1173
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 4: usually recommend is pelvic floor physical therapy or even you

1174
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 4: can look on YouTube and Google. They have like pelvic

1175
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 4: floor relaxation techniques that has a lot of good data

1176
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 4: behind it.

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00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: Do you do you agree with my doctor that this

1178
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: is often brought on by stress.

1179
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was gonna be my My second thing was,

1180
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 4: there's all you know, if if all the thing about

1181
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 4: these symptoms that eventually they pass, if they didn't, then

1182
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: all of these young people men and women also have

1183
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 4: chronic pelvic pain related to stress and mental health you

1184
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 4: know issues and other kind of just pelvic floor issues.

1185
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 4: But if these didn't get better, then we would that

1186
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 4: would be the only thing we'd seen in our office

1187
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 4: these days. And what goes to say that, you know,

1188
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 4: people who have severe stress. If they're a medical student,

1189
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 4: for instance, and they're going through they're tough rotations, they

1190
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: have chronic pelvic pain after a while, once they either

1191
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 4: manage their stress, depression, and anxiety, that can also help

1192
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 4: to see a mental health professional potentially for Yeah, that

1193
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 4: was a great episode.

1194
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: The other thing he recommended was a prostate massage, and

1195
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: I didn't really notice any benefits from it.

1196
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily, you know, even urologists, primary care

1197
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 4: doct whoever was that you saw, Like, that's not necessarily

1198
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: our area of expertise. But public or physical therapists that

1199
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm actually not. I've never actually seen what

1200
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: they do, but I've sent many patients to them, and

1201
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: it's like any physical therapy with any other muscle or joint,

1202
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: what do you do?

1203
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: What's the what you tight like use like a kegel

1204
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: like a woman does.

1205
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: It's the opposite of kegels actually, So if you were

1206
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 4: I would, I would because kegels are all about like

1207
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 4: contracting those muscles to hold in, and that's what's causing

1208
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 4: the problem. It's all about relactation technique. So I think

1209
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 4: it's it's massage and these people, these these physical therapists

1210
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 4: are are well trained in managing this.

1211
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: Oh, this prostatitis is specifically.

1212
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah or yeah. I think the the medical term that

1213
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 4: we use for urologists is chronic cross the titis slash

1214
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 4: chronic public pain and men and you want to obviously

1215
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 4: rule out infection. That's what your doctor did. Some people

1216
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 4: will have had antibiotics, like, yeah, the pain goes away,

1217
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 4: want to take anabotics, but then it comes back, but

1218
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: there's probably a placebo. Yeah, so it's that mental health

1219
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 4: is management. Then there's always there are medications if you're

1220
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: having difficulty being you know, as men get older, prosta

1221
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: gets bigger, can get in the way.

1222
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: And there's one called flomax, right.

1223
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Flomax is a classic. Obviously there are side effects

1224
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 4: to all medications, and don't take it without being prescribed

1225
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: by your doctor.

1226
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: Yes, of course you want to say that I have

1227
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: I have a question. Yes, there's a question that No,

1228
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: we can switch off price. Thank you for answering that. Donald,

1229
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: your question for doctor, your question for doctor penis, go ahead.

1230
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: My question for you. I have a couple of questions.

1231
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: My first question is can chronic masturbation cause desencitation in

1232
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: the penis?

1233
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: No, I don't think desensitation is a word.

1234
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 4: What's the sensitization. No, there's ways to masturbate to like

1235
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: in the behavioral way, to learn how to last longer,

1236
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: edging that kind of thing.

1237
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: But edging he recommended. He just prescribed edging edge.

1238
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how you get it ready.

1239
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

1240
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: When I'm about to hit the stage. When I'm about

1241
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: to hit the stage, I can't go out. I can't

1242
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: go out there. I can't go out there. Normal. I

1243
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: gotta judge it a little.

1244
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: Bit, doctor, doctor penis. Let's say there was a theoretical

1245
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: fifty year old man whose libida was only increasing. Is

1246
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: that is that normal?

1247
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: I think so?

1248
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 4: I think you know the there's all these talks a

1249
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: testosterone getting lower as you get older. But I mean,

1250
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: first of all, that's on the population size we're talking about.

1251
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: So here's here's here's a question. Can if you over

1252
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: can you over masturbate to the point where it it's tired?

1253
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 4: I mean at a time or like I think, yeah,

1254
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: I think you know, like in a matter of.

1255
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: Time, like let's say, when when life comes out when on,

1256
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's say you've masturbated

1257
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: for like a year, every day, two to three, maybe

1258
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: four times a day. I'm not saying this is me.

1259
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying, let's say you curios.

1260
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm just asking for a friend, a friend.

1261
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: Is it possible, Is it possible that your penis just

1262
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: is like, I can't funk with you no more.

1263
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 4: I don't just think so, but I think that it

1264
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 4: would be. It would be hard to then orgasm without

1265
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 4: the thing that you're masturbating with, which I think tends

1266
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 4: to happen. And there's in people in general, like your

1267
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 4: masterb in I don't know a certain way with a

1268
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 4: certain lotion, But then when you're trying to have penetrative

1269
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 4: intercourse with someone else, it's not the same the same.

1270
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: That's that's That's what I was wondering, because you hear

1271
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: about you hear about young adults now who are so

1272
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: into porn and stuff like that, and all of a

1273
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: sudden sex isn't as enjoyable because they've masturbated for so long.

1274
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: This is this is real.

1275
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I've heard I've heard of this stories just

1276
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 4: out of your sexual Medicine conference and there was a

1277
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 4: whole talk on pornography and that kind of thing, and

1278
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: what we can do about it, and you know.

1279
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: Nothing, don't do anything, don't do anything.

1280
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 4: Dysfunction young in young men, how you know if healthy

1281
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 4: guys you know, possibly related to posibly related to stress anxiety,

1282
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: but always also possibly related to that.

1283
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: So can you complete this debate for us? We having

1284
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: a little debate on the last episode that there are

1285
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: certain types of penis doctors. Yes, there's a shaft doctor,

1286
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: there's the tip doctor, there's the old doctor, there's the.

1287
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: Take and I told him that you you urologists are

1288
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: in charge of tip all the way through your there

1289
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: any track ball, shaft, taint everything, right?

1290
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Are there people that just specialize intint intinte?

1291
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: And do they have do they have limited work?

1292
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 4: You'd be surprised people are specialized. No, But urologists cover

1293
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 4: from the kidneys through where the urine drains, like the urder,

1294
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 4: the bladder and really next to the kidneys too, like

1295
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 4: they don't have to like the adrenal gland and whatever

1296
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Speaker 4: else is in that area, and bladder prostate and then

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Speaker 4: all genitals so male and female.

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Speaker 2: Not deliver though, Oh, I have a question because but

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Speaker 2: doesn't that have something like the kidneys filter also? But

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01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: doesn't deliver, filter water and all that stuff as well.

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Speaker 4: Kidneys do they filter the blood and make the urine

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Speaker 4: liver has with alcohol and they also have other kind

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Speaker 4: of medications.

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Speaker 1: Doc, do you cover women or does a guy ofcologists

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01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: cover this aspect of women's health.

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Speaker 4: We overlap in so gynecologists deal with childbirth and cancer

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Speaker 4: of the kind of coologic tract. But there are also

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Speaker 4: eurogynecologists who deal with urinary issues for women. But there

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Speaker 4: are also female urologists who deal with urinary issues for women.

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Speaker 4: And we often work in conjunction or at one hospital

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Speaker 4: they may have a eurogynecologist, at another hospital they have

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Speaker 4: a female eurologist, but they'll end up dealing with like

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: overactive bladder, female incontinent, other kind of urinary issues on

1314
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 4: the female side. But also women have kidney stones, women

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01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 4: get bladder cancer. So I see women as well. But

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Speaker 4: to talk about specializing, there are like I am completing

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 4: a men's health fellowship, so that deals with all of

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01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 4: the men help so everything with the penis screwed on, testicles, urethra, prostate.

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Speaker 4: But you know, and so.

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Speaker 2: Is there a way to grow?

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01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: You asked him this last time.

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01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: Start you know, I was hoping for a different answer.

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Speaker 1: No, he's got the same answer. Doc, Let's get it serious.

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01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: Do you recommend waxing your balls? Is there any benefits

1325
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: to waxing one's balls to get.

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01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 2: The hair off?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean wherever you want, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Because we were gonna do a special episode where Donald

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Speaker 1: gets his way. Yeah, we were gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: We were got to do a special episode where Zach

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01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: was going to.

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Speaker 1: Where Donald gets his Okay jokes aside, I do want

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: to do one bit of perfect public service announcement. The

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: last time you were on, we did this. We want

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01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: to convince men that they should definitely have their prostate

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: examined for cancer. I know a lot of men avoid

1337
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: this because it doesn't sound pleasurable, but it must be done. Doc,

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01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: will you just speak to our audience a little bit

1339
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: about the age and that they should start doing it,

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Speaker 1: and is it every year and what's the doctor looking for.

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Speaker 4: Yes, in regards to prostate cancer, it's usually in middle

1342
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 4: aged to middle aged men who are healthy. So really,

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01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 4: the from the ages fifty five to seventy are the

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: main time frame where you'd want to get checked. If

1345
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: you're checked a little earlier with the PSA, which is

1346
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 4: a blood test that helps to see your risk of

1347
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 4: prostate cancer, but it's not a perfect test. It could

1348
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 4: be elevated for a number of other non cancer related reasons,

1349
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 4: which is why seeing a doctor and talking about your

1350
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 4: risk of prostate cancer, if you have a family history,

1351
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: if you have other cancer risk in your family, or

1352
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 4: if you're curious and want to get checked, it's worthwhile

1353
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 4: to check. And at the same time as doing that

1354
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 4: that blood test, the PSA, often you'll have a prostate exam,

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01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 4: which is a finger in the butt feeling the prospect,

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 4: feeling for abnormalities.

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Speaker 2: What's what's interesting is I've been getting prostate exams since

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: I was in my thirties. I'm in my forties now,

1359
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Speaker 2: and it was by choice, you know what I mean.

1360
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily want the fingers in my butt, But

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01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 2: you know, you're nervous. I'm thorough, like for real, I

1362
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: try to be as thorough as possible, you know what

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean? And we both doesn't. But that doesn't mean

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: that doesn't that's the other crazy thing. So like, here's

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Speaker 2: the other thing. Like you could go years and years

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01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 2: and years and you're going to the doctor every year

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01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: or every six months and then all of a sudden,

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01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, shit just shows up. That's how it works.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's the thing about process answer because a

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Speaker 4: lot of our guidelines these they are doing like it's

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 4: important to be checked, but maybe every year is too much.

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Speaker 4: Maybe every year causes too much anxiety. There's the opposite

1373
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 4: effect of you're having anxiety to get checked. But if

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Speaker 4: you get checked too much, you know you're really is

1375
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 4: there a benefit? So I think some some docs would say, right,

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01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 4: you're fifty five, you hyd your PSA, it's quote unquote

1377
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 4: normal or low, which I could again next year if

1378
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 4: it's the same, and maybe we check in two years.

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Speaker 1: I thought the excuse me, doctor, I thought that I

1380
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: thought the age to start checking was younger than you're recommending.

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Speaker 2: So for I think, I think you can colonoscopy. Man,

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01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: that dropped. That dropped tremendously, like almost.

1383
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: That's what Chadwick Boseman had right, colon cancer. Okay, So

1384
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: what so what is your recommendation for when men should

1385
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: start getting prostate exams for prostate cancer annually?

1386
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 4: I would say, if you have no cancer risk and

1387
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: you know you're not, you're you want to follow what

1388
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 4: our guidelines are fifty five and you're otherwise healthy, Like

1389
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 4: you're not going to die within five years because there

1390
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 4: are If that's the case, then prostate cancer. The thing

1391
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 4: about prossect anser is it's very slow growing, so people

1392
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: can you know a lot of people die, Like prostly

1393
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 4: cancer is a top killer of men. You know that's

1394
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 4: a cancer. But there are a lot of people who

1395
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 4: have prostate cancer who die from something else because they

1396
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 4: could have something that is clinically insignificant. So you have

1397
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 4: to weigh the risks and benefits of screening and treating.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why. I mean, this is granted from

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01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: a hypochondriac who's not a doctor. I don't understand the problem.

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01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: You're going for your annual physical, you're forty seven, forty

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01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: eight years old. Why not say, oh and please check

1402
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: my prostate insurance.

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 4: Baby, No, yeah, no, but there's a benefit.

1404
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: There's a charge more to put his finger inside you.

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: Well, look, I got my colonoscopy early and I did

1406
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: different I did. He was like, well, you know, you're

1407
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: only forty two, forty three. You know it's supposed to

1408
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: be forty five. But we'll see.

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01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: But that involves putting you under in a whole thing.

1410
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: This is just a finger in your butt, What is it.

1411
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: I don't understand the difference between exams and people are

1412
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 2: under and stuff like that.

1413
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 4: Because they're looking is there, they put you asleep, They

1414
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 4: look through your whole colon the large intestine for cancer

1415
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 4: prostate exam is the prostate is right in front of

1416
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 4: the rectum. So if you put your finger in, you

1417
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 4: can feel part of the prostrate, not all of it.

1418
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,919
Speaker 4: So it's part of the test. If it's positive, that's concerning,

1419
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 4: we would say you should probably have a biopsy. If

1420
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 4: it's negative, then we say, you know. It's reassuring, but

1421
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 4: doesn't doesn't tell us the whole story. That's why you

1422
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 4: have the PSA. There's a whole algorithm of of Oh,

1423
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 4: so you're saying a screen for these things, but but.

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: You're digitally feeling is not the whole picture, right, You're

1425
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 1: only it's like a peach, right, and you're only like

1426
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: feeling like a portion of the peach. What if my

1427
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: cancer is on the other side of the peach.

1428
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Speaker 4: Talk that's the point, But it tends to be the

1429
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 4: part that you're feeling is the part that has cancer

1430
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 4: most of the time, so which is why it's become

1431
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 4: that way. What I would say is, you know, you're

1432
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 4: forty seven, You going to the doctor and you say, hey, like,

1433
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 4: I'm curious about this.

1434
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 2: What do you know?

1435
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 4: Doctor will tell you risks and benefits of treatment, and

1436
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 4: you may get a PSA and maybe if your PSA

1437
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 4: is super low that bodes well for your future. Hey,

1438
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 4: you don't need another one for until you're you know,

1439
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 4: for five years because and but if you get one

1440
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 4: at forty seven and it's higher than what it should

1441
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 4: be for a forty seven year old, again, there are

1442
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 4: rain When you look at your labs for certain tests,

1443
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 4: it will tell you what's normal. But it's not always

1444
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 4: normal abnormal. It may depend on what your age is,

1445
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 4: which is kind of like for this, and then we

1446
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 4: may say, all right, you're only forty seven. We got

1447
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 4: your PSA. It's a little high. Let's chump it against

1448
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 4: the year.

1449
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: I have another question, one more question.

1450
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so to let the doctor go. Yeah, but with

1451
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: he's got taints to check.

1452
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Speaker 2: What I'm finding is that with age you have more

1453
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 2: of a chance of you know, getting you know, diseases

1454
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. As you get older, right, is

1455
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: it because Okay, so my question is is it because

1456
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 2: of you've lived longer or is it because your body

1457
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden now doesn't you know what I mean?

1458
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: The longer you live, the you know what I mean,

1459
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: The longer you live, the more the more possibilities of

1460
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 2: things are going to happen to you. Yeah, right, Is

1461
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: that the case or is it the case of as

1462
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: you get older, your immune system your body breaks down,

1463
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: and so therefore there's a possibility of these things coming through,

1464
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a really good question that I definitely don't

1466
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 4: have the like expertise on aging to know. But what

1467
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 4: I would imagine it's a combination because in the first thing,

1468
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 4: there your cells are constantly regenerating, constantly regenerating, and when

1469
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: there are mistakes that are made when they divide, there

1470
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: are other cells that are like saying like no, you're mutated,

1471
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 4: like you're dead. But then there are some that then

1472
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 4: get through and that's when cancer forms. And my what

1473
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 4: I imagine is that over time, maybe that risk increases

1474
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 4: or it's happened so much that something the cells that

1475
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 4: you know that monitor those things aren't working as well,

1476
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 4: and your risk of getting X, Y and Z cancer increases,

1477
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 4: and then on top of that your body, yeah, just

1478
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 4: starts to break down. It's crazy, I can die. Aging

1479
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 4: is it makes no sense. And people, there is so

1480
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 4: much out there on all these theories of how to

1481
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 4: decrease aging, how to improve memory diets, certain medications like

1482
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: we using them from one that we're made for one

1483
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 4: thing to do for another thing. There is It's like,

1484
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Speaker 4: this is why I say, there's like so much. There's

1485
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 4: so much we know in medicine, and there's still so

1486
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 4: much more, even more that we don't know. And that

1487
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Speaker 4: one I think is.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you doctor Brick for your time.

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Speaker 1: I really, I really hope, at joking aside that even

1490
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: if this gets a handful of people to make sure

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01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: they get checked, will will have made a difference. So

1492
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: so thank you so much for.

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Speaker 2: We We really appreciate when you come on. As much

1494
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 2: as we like to joke around and stuff and you

1495
01:15:55,000 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: get all of the sometimes you really do it because

1496
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: you do have a lot of information that a lot

1497
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 2: of people out there need to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't and I don't think a lot

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01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: of men ask these questions, you know, Donald and I

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01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 1: are both a bit of a hypochondriacs who are blessed

1501
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: to have good insurance so we can bother our doctors.

1502
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 2: But we got a podcast where we have doctors.

1503
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: We were also and we were also on a doctor's

1504
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: show for a decade. But a lot of people are

1505
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 1: in the situation, so I wanted to provide a hopefully

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01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: of public service and just educate people a little bit

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Speaker 1: of need to hear it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'll say just two things that First of all,

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Speaker 4: I love doing this when my I love being on

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 4: with you guys. But I love answering medical questions when

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01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 4: my friends and family ask medical questions and apologize and like,

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 4: this is not there's nothing to apologize for it. This

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01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 4: is what I'm good at. This is what I do

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Speaker 4: for a living, and I enjoy it. So it's a

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01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 4: player to be here, and I'm love spending time with

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Speaker 4: you guys. And the second thing is today is actually

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Speaker 4: my wife's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Amanda, and I wanted.

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Speaker 4: To just give her a shout out and tell her

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Speaker 4: you lover and she's the best.

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Speaker 1: And wow, you're you're such a sweet Amanda. What a

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Speaker 1: catch you got here. I mean the guy's handsome. He

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01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: knows everything about a taint there is to know.

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, he looks. He looks at penises all

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01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: day and comes home to you.

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01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he does choose any of those. He passes

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01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 1: by all those penises. He walks by all those dicks

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01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: and comes home to you. It comes home to you,

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Speaker 1: to you, all right, Thank you, doctor Briggs, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Daniel, love you, Joelle. You're the best. I

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01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: hope you guys have a beautiful week. Audience. We love you.

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01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: What about I'm getting to you, saving the best for last.

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Speaker 2: No, because you're gonna okay, you're.

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01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: Messing the you're messing up the talk up. I don't

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01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 1: know how long. I don't know how long. Its fucking

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01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: preamble is, Dan, We'll make it right. I love you.

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: You're my best friend. I love your smile. I love

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: your touch, I love your teeth.

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01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 2: I love your touch.

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Speaker 1: Oh and lastly, before we go, don't forget. If you're

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: in Seattle on June tenth, we are doing our first

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01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: ever live show at the More Theater. Get tickets at

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: ticketmaster dot com and just put in fake doctors, real

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01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 1: friends to find your tickets now come join us at

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01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,839
Speaker 1: the More Theater on June tenth in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: There's only a few left. Hurry up, are you up, y'all?

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, thanks for tuning in for the show. And

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01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: this is Josh Redon with I'd rather be with you.

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Speaker 3: Sitting here on this holy up, watch the rain play

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 3: on the ocean tale.

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01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: All things I feel like need to say I can't

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01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 2: explain in any the way.

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: I need to be bold, need to jump in.

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01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 2: The cold water, I need to go hold away the

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01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: girl like you and see you. And as London makes

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01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: so easy, then the show is to again, rather be

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Speaker 2: with you. Say you won't say thing to