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Speaker 2: to first hour Playing Buck on the podcast. We definitely

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Speaker 2: want to hear it. Julie Hammel, attorney and president of

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Speaker 2: the California Justice Center, joins us. Now, Julia, appreciate you

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me now for.

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Speaker 2: First off, before we get into the exchange you had

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Speaker 2: on CNN, which we did. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: but we did play a good more than half of it,

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Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in a second. But can

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Speaker 2: you just from the legal perspective, tell everybody, we know

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Speaker 2: this story about Aby Hernandez biological male competing against women,

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Speaker 2: We know this stuff. What is the legal what is

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Speaker 2: legally at issue here? How does Title nine come into play?

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Speaker 2: What is Gavin Newsom of California doing? What's happening on

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Speaker 3: Well, long story short. Title nine has been a federal

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Speaker 3: statute since nineteen seventy two, and it's very simple. It

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Speaker 3: identity instead of sex. So that essentially turns Title nine

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Speaker 3: Biden's Title nine rule that he put in place in

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Speaker 3: you cannot create a regulation or a rule that completely

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Speaker 3: completely subverts Title nine. It does the opposite of what

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Speaker 3: Title nine was supposed to do by allowing males into

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Speaker 3: It's total nonsense. Any thinking, sane human being can recognize

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Speaker 2: We played it. Here's the reality, and the CNN anchor

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Speaker 2: has this almost like otherworldly detached But what about people

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Speaker 3: It is actually legally codified. It's freaking nonsense. So we

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Speaker 3: So it's not just in schools, it's not just adults,

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's an absolute bonkers nonsense.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I said, what is now the next

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Speaker 3: So there are lawsuits pending right now. The Advocates for

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Speaker 2: Well, what do you think about the pulling because this

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Speaker 3: Well, this is so crazy to me that the anchor,

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Speaker 3: which does not include gender identity. It is your biological sex.

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Speaker 2: So how it's just see my problem with this is

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Speaker 3: Well, the people at Deify the Defense of Freedom Institute

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Speaker 2: But that's defining men and women in law, right, Yes, yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: Yes, so do you think this is to me? It

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Speaker 2: It's amazing clarifying ruling from the Supreme Court that men

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Speaker 3: Why why do we have to do this? Why can

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Speaker 2: It feels like democrats because you're asking a very important question,

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Speaker 2: lunacy of Yeah, this is the you know, men in

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Speaker 3: Well, and the really Orwellian part about it is that

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Speaker 3: And if you don't accept that, you're a bigot?

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Speaker 2: Well, have you ever seen this? Is what I always

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Speaker 2: There have been a few people who have tried this,

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Speaker 2: It's all they are teaching kids. The sky is green.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is nineteen eighty four come to life.

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Speaker 2: It is great. Well, Julie, appreciate the work you're doing

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Speaker 3: So I am the president of the California Justice Center.

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Speaker 2: Great work keeping your cool and keeping it calm and collected.

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Speaker 2: would know that they actually just hate America. And yet

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Speaker 2: the people that we're calling for ceasefire are the same

435
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Speaker 2: people that have been marching on campuses for Palace. Then

436
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Speaker 2: same people going in the media is saying, oh, this

437
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Speaker 2: is an evil war in a genocide. They were calling

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Speaker 2: for a ceasefire right away. Ceasefire. If someone walked up

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Speaker 2: to me in a bar and punched me in the

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Speaker 2: face as hard as they could and I was gearing

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Speaker 2: up to give them a nice shot, and they said,

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Speaker 2: hold on, ceasefire. Do I think that they're acting in

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Speaker 2: good faith? We know that they're not acting in good

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Speaker 2: faith when it comes to Israel. We can all see it.

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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings over at CNN, there's a dynamic duo over

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Speaker 2: at CNN of Scott Jennings and Shermichael Singleton. Sherm Michael's

447
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Speaker 2: a friend of mine. We'll have him on the show soon.

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Speaker 2: We've had Scott on the show shere. Michael does great

449
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Speaker 2: work over at CNN. But Scott Jennings, I'll give you

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Speaker 2: one for me to the dynamic duo here at ciend.

451
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Speaker 2: They're the only thing worth watching now at CNN. I

452
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Speaker 2: know Samy saying, Buck, why do you watch the n

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Speaker 2: I don't, but I see the Scott Jennings and Shermichael

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Speaker 2: Singleton clips. It's funny. They're the only thing we're watching there.

455
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Speaker 2: And yet you think they'll get a show. Do you

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Speaker 2: think that they would do like the Scott and Srmichaels

457
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Speaker 2: show by That'd be a great show. It'd be real right,

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Speaker 2: And but they could fight with Libs. It doesn't have

459
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Speaker 2: to it doesn't have to be conservative or you know,

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Speaker 2: pro Trump only right. They could. They could have on

461
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Speaker 2: all the Democrats they want, just have one show with

462
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Speaker 2: somebody who is pro Trump on that network. They would

463
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Speaker 2: never do it. They would never do it. No, they'd

464
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Speaker 2: rather have an anchor up there who's like, well, do

465
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Speaker 2: we really know that men have I think we need

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467
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Speaker 2: advantage over women in athletics. We need more study. Oh oh,

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Speaker 2: because what about women who were assigned women at birth

469
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Speaker 2: but actually have been unassigned it because they say so, Ah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Back to CNN's Scott Jennings. Here, this is what he

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Speaker 4: This is horrific and what more do we need to

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Speaker 4: see before we realize this Free Palestine movement is nothing

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Speaker 4: more than a domestic terror organization right now. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 4: we have this issue in Colorado. We've seen, you know,

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Speaker 4: the activities on college campuses now for months and months

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Speaker 4: and months and months. The rise of anti Semitism in America,

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Speaker 4: the rise in the number of people who have come

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Speaker 4: to America who hold anti American views, anti Western views,

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Speaker 4: and anti Semitic views and are now willing.

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Speaker 2: To act on it.

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Speaker 4: It is absolutely outrageous, and I think as a society

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Speaker 4: we need to understand we are dealing with domestic terrorism.

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Speaker 4: It's growing more violent by the day, and if we

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Speaker 4: don't deal with it, these kinds of things are going

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Speaker 4: to keep happening.

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Speaker 2: You see, this is I'm going to let you in

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Speaker 2: on a little secret that the Israeli people know and

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Speaker 2: Americans who understand the Muslim world know. Here's the belief

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Speaker 2: that's out there that the left will will say to you, Oh,

494
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Speaker 2: it's our fault. And you can see this. This runs

495
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Speaker 2: in parallel. This argument goes side by side America in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East, Israel in the Middle East. You'll hear

497
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Speaker 2: the same version of this, the same argumentation. Essentially, here's

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Speaker 2: how it goes. If we just did things differently, if

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Speaker 2: we just left them alone, meaning the Muslim world. The

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Speaker 2: Middle East really is what we're talking about here specifically,

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Speaker 2: but the Muslim world more broadly too, because technical places

502
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Speaker 2: like Afghanistan, Pakistan, that's not the Middle East, that's South Asia.

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Speaker 2: But if you look at the Muslim world, the belief

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Speaker 2: is if we leave them alone, everything would be better.

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Speaker 2: They'll leave us, they'll leave us alone. History shows you

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Speaker 2: that that's not true, that it's not as though if

507
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Speaker 2: we just did things differently, and this is really gets

508
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Speaker 2: to the heart of the debate here. If we just

509
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: did things differently. All of the terrorism bin Laden is

510
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Speaker 2: or was thank you steal Team six. Bin Laden was

511
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Speaker 2: blowback for US foreign policy. These people have no idea

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Speaker 2: what they're talking about. They know nothing about the Hadith

513
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: sited with the black banners of Korusan making their way

514
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Speaker 2: to Jerusalem to bring about the end of days. They

515
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: know nothing about the the explicitly imperial history, meaning empire

516
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Speaker 2: building history of the Islamic project. They know nothing about this.

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Speaker 2: They just viewed in a post Ottoman which really just

518
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Speaker 2: means twentieth century, a post Ottoman context of Muslim world

519
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: and specifically Mideast decline. And so we are the oppressors,

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00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: they are the oppressed. In fact, the Islamic world was

521
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Speaker 2: just one giant jihad of ongoing conquest for centuries for centuries, right,

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Speaker 2: So if we're really going to get into this history,

523
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Speaker 2: we should have some baseline understanding of what is really

524
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Speaker 2: going on here. But you will notice that wherever, wherever

525
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Speaker 2: there has been the expansion of the Muslim world into

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Speaker 2: the non Muslim world, guess what happens vicious and violent conflict.

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Speaker 2: And this is without exception. Find me a place, show

528
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Speaker 2: me what it looks like in South Asia when Muslims

529
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Speaker 2: and Hindus are coming together, has there been tremendous bloodshed?

530
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Speaker 2: Have there been wars? Of course, show me this in

531
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Speaker 2: East Asia, Show me this anywhere. Certainly the Balkans, Eastern Europe.

532
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: Show me this anywhere. And there is conflict and there

533
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Speaker 2: are problems. The notion that the only problems exist because

534
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Speaker 2: of US is just a self hatred masquerading as some

535
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: kind of erudite foreign policy. It's absurd, It is absurd.

536
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Speaker 2: And now which you have to realize, is that some

537
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Speaker 2: of these countries. You look at a place like Iran,

538
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Speaker 2: Why do you think Iran spends all its time saying

539
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Speaker 2: that Israel is the little Satan and we're the great Satan,

540
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Speaker 2: and they have all this stuff. And yes, I know

541
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Speaker 2: the Iranian people different than the Iranian regime. Why does

542
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Speaker 2: the apparatus in control of Iran, the theocracy of Iran,

543
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: spend so much time supporting terrorist groups and and and

544
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Speaker 2: and hating Israel and working against America. Well, if they

545
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: weren't doing that, they might have to look around and say,

546
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: why does our society suck so much? Why are we

547
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Speaker 2: so poor? Why do we have no rights? Why are

548
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: we so behind the rest of the world. Why can't

549
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Speaker 2: we be competitive? Why can't we create great literature? Why

550
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: can't we create movies anybody wants to watch? Why aren't

551
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: we curing diseases? Where are we on Ai? How happy

552
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: are our people? All of those metrics, And this isn't

553
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Speaker 2: just true in Iran, all the all of those metrics

554
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Speaker 2: in some of these Muslim countries would just be devastating

555
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Speaker 2: if people actually spend time thinking about them. But it

556
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: is so much more easy to say, well, you know,

557
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Speaker 2: there's there's an Israeli hiding under my bed. He's the

558
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Speaker 2: problem America doing things that Isra wants them to do.

559
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Speaker 2: That's the problem, I promise you these countries, I mean

560
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Speaker 2: the perfect example is Gaza. Gaza itself, Israel said, fine,

561
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Speaker 2: you know what, all of our settlers and they it

562
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: was not it was not a pleasant experience. They had

563
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Speaker 2: to send in the military, They had to drag them

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Speaker 2: out of Gaza. Those of you who actually know the

565
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Speaker 2: history of the region know what I'm talking about. They said, fine,

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Speaker 2: Gaza is yours. And then then they spent the next

567
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Speaker 2: twenty years building a terror tunnel networks and firing rockets

568
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Speaker 2: at their neighbors. It's their fault. They made choices, they

569
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: made bad choices. It is their fault. Now you could say, oh,

570
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Speaker 2: but you know, laws of war and what do we do,

571
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: and it's so horrible and their civilian casualties. Yet war

572
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Speaker 2: is a terrible thing. The Israelis try to mitigate the

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Speaker 2: civilian casualties from the war that they are fighting, but

574
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Speaker 2: that does not mean it is not a just war.

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Speaker 2: Same way we went to Afghanistan and they were trying

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Speaker 2: to not just blow up the Pentagon and bring down

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Speaker 2: the twin towers. They had many and I worked on

578
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Speaker 2: some of them in the CIICTC when they were active plots.

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Speaker 2: I remember this. They were trying to bring down you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, multiple airliners over the Pacific or over the Atlantic,

581
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582
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: of plenty mass casualty plots still going and still based

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Speaker 2: on al Qaeda leadership, direct planning. And yeah, did we

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Speaker 2: occasionally bomb a not even occasionally. I mean we just

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587
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589
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Speaker 2: got a lot of things in the mix. Here a

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Speaker 2: lot of things we're doing and it's all because of you,

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Speaker 2: so thank you. But please get your coffee from Crockett Coffee.

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Speaker 2: Go to Crockett Coffee dot com. VIP email from Linda

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Speaker 2: in Oh laugh, I'm learning so many towns on this show.

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Speaker 2: O lath Kansas. Oh this is actually about Crockett. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even know this. Just receive my Crocket coffee in

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Speaker 2: my mailbox. The aroma hit me as soon as I

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Speaker 2: open the box. It smells fantastic. I will really enjoy

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Speaker 2: having my first cup tomorrow morning. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, that's I appreciate that. It's fantastic. We'll come

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Speaker 2: back in you. We'll talk about the the immigration part

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Speaker 2: of this as well, because remember this guy was in illegal.

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Speaker 2: A terrorist here was in illegal and I think it's

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Speaker 2: important to note that this is just the beginning of

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Speaker 2: US dealing with the Biden wide open border policy. So

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Speaker 2: we will get into some of that, and we also

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Speaker 2: have some numbers out about where Trump's where Trump is

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Speaker 2: all important metrics. Still, they kept acting like he's going

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Speaker 2: one thing I hear from Trump voters and one just

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Speaker 2: cool British accent by the way, loves the show. But

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Speaker 2: think things are going with trum You know what they say,

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Speaker 2: I voted for this