1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We make way for Pro Football Focus lead 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: draft analyst Mike Renner joining us to talk about his 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: big board here. How often has your big board changed 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: here in the last week or so? Mike, Oh, it's 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: been moving. We just updated at this past Monday. Because 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: the athletic testing, especially for a lot of these guys 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: that opted out, haven't seen in a while. It's still 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: very important. I think the outliers on either end of 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: the spectrum are impactful and that will alter the PFF board. Okay, 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: let's start at the top, Trevor Lawrence and then Zack Wilson. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Any questions on Trevor Lawrence, No, I mean, he may 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: not be the best quarterback ever. He may not be 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: a top three quarterback in the NFL. But I think 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence the selling point to him, he doesn't really 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: have weaknesses. He's going to be, maybe next year, a 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: top ten to twelve quarterback in the NFL. You just 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: feel very confident about that with all he's done already 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: and the way his game translates to the NFL. Well, 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: he's also gotta have some talent around him here. Mike 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are if you put 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in Jacksonville last year, he ain't Patrick Mahomes, oh, 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And the good news is though the 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Jaguars have all that draft capital, all that that's a 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: cap space right now to make some plays and get 26 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: some guys around him. And they have some talent there. 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: They have a quality offensive line, a guy like Djhark 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: on the outside. I think they'll put those pieces around him. 29 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: And obviously you have a head coach and urban myro 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: played with strengths all right, the Jets with Zack Wilson, 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: would you advise them to take Zack Wilson one hundred percent? 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: You cannot go into twenty twenty one with Sam Darnald, 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: and not just because you don't think Sam Darnold's going 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: to be that guy. He very well may, with better 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: pieces around him, be one of the better quarterbacks in 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. But as soon as he is, you'd have 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: to pay Sam Darnold like you pay every other quarterback 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The holy grail right now in the 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: NFL is that quarterback on the rookie deal playing an 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: elite level that can be Zack Wilson. That can't be 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold because he's going to have to get paid 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: after this year. Yeah, then you have to franchise him 43 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: or you have to give him that long extension and 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: any team. I don't know what he's gonna be worth. 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: I have some information on what I think the Jets 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: think he's worth, but you know, can you get that 47 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: from somebody? Then at number three you got the Niners. 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: They paid an awful lot to go up there. Did 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: they need to go pay what they paid to get 50 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: the guy they wanted? At three? They did? And it's 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: because the desperations because other teams were going to pay that. 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: You look at teams like the Panthers, the Broncos, even 53 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: the Eagles in this quarterback market. To get kind of 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: your guy, knowing that those were the top two, that 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Wilson are the top two, you had to 56 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: pay a premium. And that's why I do think it's 57 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: not going to be a mac Jones Mac Jones of 58 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the world. I don't want to say they're a dime 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: a dozen, but that's a Kirk Cousins, that's a Jimmy Garoppolo. 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: That's not the guy who's going above and beyond. I 61 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: think they paid that premium for the arm talent, the 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: tools that someone like Trey Lance or at Justin Fields 63 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: brings to the table because they can run your offense, 64 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: but then they can also do things outside your offense 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and open up the entire playbook that, like I said, 66 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo cannot do well. That's why I wondered, and 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: I read your profile on Mac Jones. You didn't have 68 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: a lot of great things to say. I think you 69 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: mentioned his arm was middling, like it's we've been told 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: like he's really precise and he's the kind of quarterback 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan would want with the Niners. Is there 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: an upside to Mac Jones. I think that's the thing 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: is that he fits that offense. What he did at Alabama, 74 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: it's very similar to what he'll be doing with San 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners in terms of working over the middle 76 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: of the field, working off play action, working in timing 77 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: of the offense. He does those things exceptionally well. But again, 78 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins does those things sceptional, Derek Carr does those things. 79 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: They don't go above and beyond because they don't have 80 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: the arm strength. They don't have the physical tools. The 81 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: guys who are winning in the NFL today, the guys 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: who were leading the offenses like the Packers, the Bills, 83 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs this past have a legit arm talent. And 84 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: before you lump someone like Tom Brady into that, Tom 85 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: Brady has a much much stronger arm than a mac Jones. 86 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: Guys who are at that level of arm strength you 87 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: just have to almost protect. And you even see it 88 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: on kind of the routesy targets at Alabama. He's not 89 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: working outside the numbers. He's not working go balls down 90 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: the football field. He's only really working over the middle 91 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: of the field. So he's not expanding your offense. He 92 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: can run it, he can run an NFL offense, but 93 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going above and beyond to pay 94 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: that premium of three first rounders for if somebody takes 95 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: mac Jones in the first five picks, finish that sentence, 96 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: they're getting a good quarterback. You can win a Super 97 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: Bowl with them. And like I said, quality quarterback play 98 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: on a rookie deal is still so valuable. Because he said, 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: look how much Kirk Cousins is making thirty five million 100 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: dollars a year. Mac Jones at pick five will be 101 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: making five million dollars year. You're saving yourself thirty million 102 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: dollars that you can go pay and fill out the 103 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: rest of your roster. But I would rather have those 104 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: four other guys. If I said, Justin Fields or Trey 105 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: Lance or mac Jones, give me the order. Justin Fields, 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, mac Jones, I think you said it there yourself. Fields, 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get the smoke around him not 108 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 1: being one of the franchise type guys in this draft class. 109 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: Like the way he played at Ohio State at a 110 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: high level against Clemson this past year against Alabama, and yeah, 111 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: there's some bad games on his tape, but he runs 112 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: a four four and has a cannon and is very 113 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: accurate down the football field. And I get the Ohio 114 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: State quarterback knock, but he is playing a vastly different 115 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: offense than what Dwayne Haskins did. Dwayne Haskins had over 116 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: half of his yards after the catch in his time 117 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. Justin Fields seventy percent of his yards 118 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: came through the year. That was the highest of any 119 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: quarterback in the country. So playing a different game at 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback position than what we've seen from Ohio State 121 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: TV's in the past, and it is Trey Lance a 122 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: year waiting to maybe be a starting quarterback. Here, you're 123 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: taking somebody who I guess, for the lack of a 124 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: better term, a project. I think so. I think he 125 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: is an incredibly gifted athlete in terms of he's probably 126 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: around the four fives or that's what he's capable of, 127 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: the best pure runner at the positions draft class, has 128 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: the strongest arm of any quarterback in the draft class, 129 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: and he is a very good decision maker with a football. Obviously, 130 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: he didn't have a single pick back in twenty nineteen, 131 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: but gets the ball where it needs to go. He's 132 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: just not particularly accurate. Only one year as a starter, 133 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: coming from the competition level, he's coming from all those things. 134 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: I would not want to throw him to the Wolves 135 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: right away. But he is the youngest of this bunch. 136 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: He's not even twenty one years old yet. What he 137 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: could be when he's you know, Matt Jones's age, Joe 138 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: Burrow's age coming out, we don't even know yet. That's 139 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of what you're buying into. With all the physical 140 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: tools he brings to the table, very reminiscent of like 141 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: a Josh Allen coming out of Wyoming. He's my runner. 142 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: The Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst, I was watching 143 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitt's pro day yesterday, and he makes it look 144 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: pretty easy. I know it's he's he's labeled a tight end, 145 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: but it's kind of like a big wide receiver who's 146 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: lining up the tight end here if you look at 147 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Davonte Smith. I even had a scout yesterday saying Jalen Waddle, 148 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: in his opinion, is better than Davonte Smith. And he's 149 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: the one who told me about Jamar Chase said he'll 150 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: be a better He's the better wide receiver than Davonte Smith. 151 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: So if you put them all together, there pits Jamar Chase, 152 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Davonte Smith, Jalen Waddle. Rank those well one. I don't 153 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: think you can go wrong. All those guys are stud 154 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: NFL prospects. But on the PFF board it goes Pitts, 155 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Chase Waddle, and then Smith at the fourth. And it's 156 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: because of the physical tools and what it takes to 157 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: translate to the next level, and we're usually low on 158 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: tight ends. There's not a lot of difference makers at 159 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: the tight end position in the NFL, you got about three, 160 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: but it's the three guys that can actually win one 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: on one against NFL cornerbacks. And I think that's the 162 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: biggest things because if you have a guy like a 163 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Jason Witten or a Zach Er, it's all you need 164 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to do is put a big cornerback on them and 165 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: they can't separate. That's not the case with Kyle Pitts. 166 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: He was beating SEC cornerbacks like jac Horne, and so 167 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: if you just call them a wide receiver, he'd probably 168 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 1: be in that mixture, the top wide receiver in this class. 169 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: But you can't match up with him as a wide receiver. 170 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: You have to match up with him as the tight 171 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: end because he can actually block. Now another guy, he's 172 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: only twenty years old, so he's an incredible talent, obviously 173 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: going to go high. But then Chase is the guy 174 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: who's kind of getting forgotten about because he opted out 175 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: this past year. But as Pro Day runs in the 176 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: four three's Monster Vertical Monster broads up an explosive guy. 177 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: What he did again at nineteen years old in the 178 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: SEC just different and the Wattle thing Wattle actually when 179 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: they were both healthy on the football field this past year. 180 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: He had more yards than DeVante Smith, just could not 181 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: stay healthy. Is the more dynamic athlete. And again no 182 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: knock on Smith, but one hundred and seventy pounders that's 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: going to show up more at the NFL level than 184 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: at did in college. Guys are going to get more physical. 185 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Your average cornerback in the NFL's around two hundred pounds 186 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: thirty pounds heavier than DeVante Smith. That's just going to 187 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: be more of an issue. Give me the stat or 188 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: stats that we need to be aware of that makeup 189 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: like a great wide receiver. Because McLevin says, what receptions 190 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: aren't important? Right, Yes, they're like hits in baseball. Okay, 191 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: So give us what to look for. How do we 192 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: know equate value at those positions? I think a big 193 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: stat to look forward wide receivers is age adjusted production 194 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: and production being like yards per out how much you're 195 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: actually producing given the opportunities you're given. And so that's 196 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: the way, like you just made something up, did you? 197 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: Yards per rout being like how often you're on the 198 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: football field and how many yards you gained per the 199 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: opportunities you were given. Because if you're an offense like 200 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: LSU twenty nineteen, were you having seven hundred drop backs 201 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: and you have a ton of opportunities, your yards perout 202 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: is going to be. Your total yards is going to 203 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: be a lot different from then a guy who runs 204 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: maybe at Navy, who's not getting in a lot of optunities. 205 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Now it's so vastly that's a egregious example. But and 206 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: then the age adjustment is big because again, you've developed 207 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: so much physically over the course of your career in college. 208 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: You want the guys who can do it when they're 209 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: not the physical freaks, the guys who are producing as 210 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: freshman sophomores when they don't have that inbuilt physical advantage 211 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: to speak to their innate talent level. The guys who 212 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: it turns on late in their career when they are 213 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: finally the guy who's the man amongst boys so speak. 214 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: Those are the guys you worry about because you won't 215 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: be the man amongst boys once you are in the NFL. Okay, 216 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: give me the best receiver in football right now. I 217 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: will go with Tyreek Hill as the best receiver in football, 218 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: the guy I would want more than anyone else. That's 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: the way he changes the game. And the best tight 220 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: end in football. Best guy in football is George Kittle 221 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: all around when healthy because of his blocking plus his 222 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: receiving ability. Who's the worst quarterback in football? The worst 223 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: quarterback in football is Taysom Hill. Count as a quarterback. 224 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: At this point, I guess miss Trubisky guy job. Still, 225 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: we'll go away. We're not sold on Taysom Hill is 226 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback. I am not sold as much as Sean 227 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Payton wants to sell him to me, I'm not buying 228 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: what he's selling at this point. He just you watch 229 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: him try to throw like passing concepts that aren't play 230 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: action deep shots or that, like stuff that have to 231 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: actually go through progressions and get the ball where he 232 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: needs to go accurately. And it's pretty brutal to watch. 233 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: Paulie wants you to defend Mitchell Trubisky. Can you You 234 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: know he's twenty nine and twenty one of the starter. 235 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: Not a lot of people with that in this first 236 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, I think victories are overrated too, right? 237 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Is that? I think I would agree with you? Yeah, 238 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: victories are over eight yes, McLeman. Yeah, Taysom Hill one 239 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: basically every game he started, too. What's up there. We'll 240 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: let you go. Mike. You don't have to do you engage. 241 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: It's okay, like it. This is what I deal with 242 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: every single day. Great to have you on. We will. 243 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: We'll have you on before the draft if that's okay, Mike. 244 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time as always. 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Mccronin the head coach of the UCLA Bruins, 262 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: joining us so on the program. Not enough people talk 263 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: about your high school basketball career there, coach, you know, 264 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: I know you're playing for LaSalle All City, They're playing 265 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: for your dad. Do you want to talk about who 266 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: plays the game the way you played when you were 267 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: in high school? Let's just say my team plays a 268 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: lot better defense than I did. Okay, how tall your 269 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: career wasn't it, Mason? Yeah? Dominated, yeah, domination. Yeah, but 270 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: you read the stories, but we don't need to talk 271 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: about my career. This is about your career. But how 272 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: tall were you in high school? So I haven't grown 273 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: the same light, same way. You know, five five seven, 274 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: one fifty five And your dad is egg high school 275 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: legend as far as coaching, right, he's got over four wins. Yeah, 276 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: very lucky obviously to uh have great parents, grow up 277 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: the son of a coach, you know. Coach Huggins and 278 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: I used to always say we were products of our environment. 279 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: You know, when you grow up in a gym, you 280 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: just you. Obviously there's the osmosis process. You're learning how 281 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: to coach you're learning how to deal with players. You're 282 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: learning because you go home, you learn how to coach. 283 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Thinks you're a player. You hear what the other players say. Uh, 284 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: so you're really training on the job. You just you 285 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: just don't know it until until the day you go 286 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: to coach and you realize that, you know, you probably 287 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: were training to what you're doing your whole life. How 288 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: cool is this that you get to share this with 289 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: your father. Oh, it's awesome. You know. I have a 290 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: lot of friends in coaching obviously, and you know, some 291 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: some guys they're they're Dad's not around. Um, you know, 292 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: so for me, just for him to get to enjoy this, 293 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: to get you know, to give back. You know, so 294 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: many of us, you know, Midwest people, Cincinnati people. You know, 295 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: it's the West Side, hard working people. You know, my 296 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: dad had three jobs. My mom worked full time. Uh, 297 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, so they put three kids through private school. 298 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how the LA did it, uh, but 299 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: they did it. So you know, when you give anything 300 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: back to your parents, it's a great thing in life 301 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: because obviously, you know, I wouldn't be here for it 302 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: wasn't for my parents. If I told you a month 303 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: ago we would be talking today and it would have 304 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: to do with the final four. What would you have said? 305 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: I'd have said, we got really hot from the three 306 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: point line. But you know, I wouldn't have said no chance, 307 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: but I'd just said, you know, we we we had 308 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: to really get hot from a three point line. It's 309 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: ort a smaller team than and uh, we guess, but 310 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: we do have guys can shoot the basketball. Uh. And 311 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: then the other thing I would have said was, boy, 312 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: we really must have gotten better to pensively, like way better. 313 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: And that's really what's happened. That's really the story of 314 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: what's happened for us since halftime in the Michigan State game. 315 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: We've really just transformed defensively as a team. But also, 316 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, you look at this and it's hard to 317 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: say UCLA is a cinderella story, but right, and I 318 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: agree with you, but it's still a cinderella. This team 319 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: is a cinderella story though, Coach, Oh, yeah, no, I understand. 320 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: You know, if we win those last four the regular season, 321 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: we're not a cinderella. And we could have won all 322 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: those games. We had some really bad breaks down the 323 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: stretch against really good teams. So it's you know that 324 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: put you down on the seed line and it makes 325 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: you a Cinderella story. And then look Jude obviously, as 326 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: you know Dana in La. You know it's big names. 327 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, the Lakers, they don't go to the they 328 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: don't win title without Lebron or Kobe, you know, Magic Kareem, 329 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: same thing. You know, the Bruins have had so many great, 330 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: great players, and we got very good players on this team. 331 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: We got to see them, some guys that are developing 332 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: their chances to be professional players. But you know, Kareem's 333 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: not walking through the door, built walking to the door. 334 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: So you know it's new for UCLA to to grind 335 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: their way to a final four. What's it like though? 336 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: When you go into Paul Pavilion, you look up and 337 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: you see all those banners. Man, it's awesome, Dan, it's awesome. 338 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: Every's not intimidating. I don't really look at it like 339 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: I just look. You know, maybe I'm too too. My 340 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Irish toughness um doesn't allow me to like, I don't 341 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: think that way. I just think I look at opportunity. 342 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: I think you can't. I should if you're going to 343 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: look at it in awe of oh my goodness. You know, 344 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: look what I have to live up to. Um, you know, 345 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: you shouldn't take the job. But I did study everything 346 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: that Coach Woodn't said at the end. Dan mean, when 347 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: I got the job, I stayed up late and he 348 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: here's a quote from coach wouldn't he He said, the 349 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: only person that had had to deal with my expectations 350 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: should have been the first guy that followed him, Okay, 351 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: which was Murray Bartow. But you know after that, you 352 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: didn't follow John Wooden. And this is him talking, you know. 353 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: So he said, if they're thinking that way, that that's 354 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: the wrong way to think. So. But anyway, you know, 355 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I just maybe it's my stubbornness. Man. I just look 356 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: at it as what an opportunity to coach. Where Coach 357 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: Wooden coaches. I've met all his family. They're texting me 358 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: today already. Yeah. It's just so many cool people. I mean, 359 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm dead I'm friends with Kareem abdul Jabar. How cool. 360 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: He's mc cronin, the UCLA head coach. By the way, 361 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: this just in Roy Williams has announced his retirement. Are 362 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: you being serious? Yeah, it just happened. Uh. Yeah, Carolina 363 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: just released this after thirty three years as a Hall 364 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: of Fame head coach or beloved tar heels Roy Williams 365 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: announcing his retirement, well, I would say from the coaching community, congratulations. 366 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: Coach Williams is a great guy. And a side note, 367 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's taking care of me, got me hooked 368 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: up down and Pinehurst to play some elite courses. So 369 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: I owe him. Now he's gonna be I told him 370 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: that now he's retired, coach, come on out. We'll play 371 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: bel Air, We'll play Riviera, we'll play La North, whatever 372 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: you want. Do you bother showing gun shagga tape to 373 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: your players? Oh? Absolutely absolutely, you know absolutely One thing 374 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you Nan that you know, look, we're 375 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: obviously we're decided underdog. That's okay. But in my Big 376 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: East days when I was rebuilding Cincinnati, unfortunately, I have 377 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: a lot of experience in being a double digit underdog, 378 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, back in oh six, oh seven, o eight, 379 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I had to deal with that quite 380 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: a bit. And we're not looking to do this, but 381 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: there was many nights that we got to beat six 382 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: that we could have got beat thirty six. So I 383 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: have dealt with that situation. But we'll see. But yeah, 384 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: you know, we'll approach the game like any other, but 385 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: also knowing it's going to be tougher than any other 386 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: we've played this year. How tough are you though to 387 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: play for? Oh? Now, I think you know what's funny man, 388 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: when you're passionate? What my players all know? For my 389 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: problem right now, my Cincinnati players want to come to 390 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: the game. They've all they've banded together, sent me to 391 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: Texas morning. They all want to come to the game. 392 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: So I got ticket issues. When you're I think people think, look, 393 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: he's all over them, but they don't. It's encouragement. Ninety 394 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: percent of its encouragement, you know, is that you can 395 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: guard him. You know you can do this. You know, 396 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm just extroverted with it. I'm outward with it. So 397 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: you know in practice this, uh, you know, I think 398 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: you got to bring energy. I learned that early. There's 399 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: a great NBA legendary workout guy, Tim Gurgeridge, and kids 400 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: they want they want to feel your energy. I learned 401 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: that from him as a young guy when he was 402 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: gave me a chance to help him work guys out. Uh, 403 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, as you know, players want to feel a 404 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: guy that's trying to help them get better and that's 405 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: how you know, so they know that. So I'm not 406 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: just barking at guys to barkett guys. You know, kids 407 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't they wouldn't respond to that. But I remember, I 408 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I met you at the University of 409 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Cincinnati when Huggins was there, but you were like video coordinator. 410 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: I think you started out there, yeah, yeah, for nine 411 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: months then that you know, then he got smart and 412 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: from oh, he promoted you. But the way Huggins held 413 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: a practice was something unlike anything I'd ever seen before. Yes, yes, 414 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: I totally agree. How would you describe how Huggins would 415 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: would hold those practices at Cincinnati? It's just let's just, 416 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, people on the outside, it's hard, you know, 417 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: because so many people's I can't believe you said that 418 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: or that, you know, but players get it. I mean, 419 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: you know when you get especially guy, you know, the 420 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: guy locker room talk, it is what it is. Um. 421 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: You know, in the outer world academia would just don't 422 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: understand it. Um. You know, it's just how the kids talk, 423 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: how it is at times. And you know, again, coach, 424 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, Bob Huggins. Uh coaches with love, and I 425 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: give him a shout. I would not be here if 426 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: it was not for him. But when you coach with love, Uh, 427 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: the kids know it. So you know they again, they 428 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: know you're not messing with him, You're trying to bring 429 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: out the best best of them because they know he 430 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: would do anything. First players the same, the same as 431 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: I would. But I remember this is when Nick van 432 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Exel was there. Yeah, and I just remember Huggins shame 433 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: to the team as somebody who shouldn't have been shooting. 434 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: He just gathered him and a couple of cut words 435 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: and any like, guys, this is your team, do you 436 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: want him shooting? Like? Like and I and I'm watching 437 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: with the former Cincinnati great, the late Derek Dickey, and 438 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: he said, just so you know, you're gonna watch a 439 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: practice and you're gonna see something and hear something you've 440 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: never heard before. And he's saying to the players, you 441 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: guys are accountable for what goes on on the floor. 442 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: Do you want him shooting? And the answer is no, 443 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: you so right in front of this poor guy, I 444 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: don't want to mention his name, but he goes and 445 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: it was just so honest, but you know, to be 446 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: brutally honest. Like you saw what happened with coaches in 447 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: the whole. You know, like you he loves his players, 448 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: but can you coach like that? You know? You know, yeah, 449 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean it's there and the visual of what we 450 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: saw and what we're all like, Wow, coach, you know, 451 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: get it together. Yeah, the visual isn't good sometimes again 452 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: because you're on the outside. But what I would say 453 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: is two things. One the kid being honest. Unfortunately Dan, 454 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: sometimes we're the first person that's honest with them about 455 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: their basketball abilities and they need to hear that. You know. 456 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Let me honestly say, you know, what do you want? Okay, 457 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: what do you want to do? You want to play 458 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: in the NBA ball Let me honestly tell you that 459 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: you cannot jump shoot your way to the pros. Everybody 460 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: else has told you that you're going to have to 461 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: defend your way to the pros. If you brought my 462 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: friend Corey Blunt, who was on that team on this show, 463 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: tell you that his agent told him almost thirty years 464 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: ago now that he need to go show everybody he 465 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: could shoot, and Bob hug And stopped him and said, 466 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 1: don't you dare do that at the NBA combine. Let 467 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: him guess because you can't shoot, you know, go rebound 468 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: and block shots. And he's a first round pick and 469 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: played eleven years in the NBA. So sometimes we're the 470 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: first person to tell these guys the truth and that 471 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,959 Speaker 1: that you know, that's just you know, it's unfortunate, but 472 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: they need they need to hear it to give themselves 473 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: a chance. And yeah, it's but the shot I understand, 474 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, the visual of it's not 475 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: always easy. If if we had a coaches one on 476 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: one of the final four coaches or three point how 477 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: do you affair the uh so Mark Mark Hugh? You 478 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: worried about Mark Hugh? One on what I'd say, I'd say, 479 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm six to five okay, all right, and that's one 480 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: on one? What about three point shooting? So I'm six 481 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: to five okay? You just season, you know, we're we're 482 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: all in bad shape. I think, you know, I think 483 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: Kelvin went the most importantly. Who wins on the golf course? 484 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: And I got a feeling Kelvin wins that one. Yeah, 485 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're coach Sampson and I we we 486 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: get great friendship. You know, I just got a feeling 487 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: he's saying, and we have to play. But we're very 488 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: close from our battles Cincinnati and Houston, so to be interesting, 489 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: you know. But the days we're finally gonna we're going 490 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: to get to play. But I see, you know, we look, 491 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: we're all in the same hotel, which is weird, right, 492 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: So Coach, you know, Kelvin, I've been talking for the 493 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: last three you know, we've been in this hotel eighteen days. 494 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: You know, hey, keep winning, keep doing it, keep winnings. 495 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: We got to win one more to play again. How 496 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: wild would that be? Well, congrats so far there, coach, 497 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: and good luck this weekend. We appreciate your time. As always, 498 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: it's great to finally be on. I've been a fan 499 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: of the show for a long time. Well, I just said, 500 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: you need to go with one name mccronin, like, just 501 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: mc c r O N I N like, Like, doesn't 502 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: it sound like a like a cop show on CBS 503 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: or maybe a movie with Jason Statham mccronin. I like, No, 504 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: I like that, you know, I mean, you know, I've 505 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: seen some of his girlfriends in Hollywood. He's gonna play 506 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: me I'm all mccronan. I like that. From one irishman 507 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: to another, I appreciate it. Thank you, buddy, Thank you 508 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: McK that's mccronin. Mccronin. Fox Sports Radio has the best 509 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 510 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 511 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app search f s R to listen live. White 512 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: Russell set to join us. He comes from Hollywood Royalty 513 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: is to add the great actor Kurt Russell and his 514 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: mom is Goldie Hunt and uh White joints us. Do 515 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: you do you feel like a superhero? You tell me 516 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: that I look like, no, you don't. In disguise. This 517 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: is my this is my lighting set up, Dan, this 518 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: is my ringley. Wow. It's very professional, very professional. I'm 519 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: the only person to ever actually Marvel take money from 520 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: me after the movie. How did this happen? What you're 521 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: you're Captain America? Yeah it was I don't know. They 522 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: called and said like, hey, come in and read for 523 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 1: a person, and then for like a Marvel character. They 524 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: don't tell you who you're going to read for. And 525 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: then you do it and they're like great, you're the guy. 526 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: And then and then it's like, thank you, who's the guy? 527 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Who am I gonna? Who am I gonna play? And 528 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: then they tell you and first it was like wow, 529 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, it's like Chris Evans is 530 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: the man and he did I don't want to do that. 531 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: They're like, oh no, it's not really that, and they 532 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: explained to me what the character was. And so after 533 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: they explained it, I was like, okay, that could be. 534 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: That could be pretty cool. But how do you act 535 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: like a superhero in the audition? I didn't because they 536 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: do a good job of making like it's not you're 537 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: not a suit. It would be amazing if they gave 538 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: you a suit and said okay, now I do your 539 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: best to fly around the room, and that would be incredible. 540 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: But they just they just give you like a scene 541 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: that to act in and then that they decide whether 542 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: or not you're going to be a superhero or not. 543 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 1: Also just regular dialogue. Yeah, it's is regular dialo. I like, 544 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: it's not, it's really nothing. There was no special circumstance 545 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: to how they decide whether who was going to be 546 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: the guy or not. But how how much did you 547 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: know about what Chris Evans had done? Its Captain America. 548 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know it other than what I other than 549 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: what not living under a rock, you know that, Like, 550 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's huge and everybody loves it. And the 551 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: interesting thing that I said a lot, and I think 552 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: maybe some people can relate, is I I didn't grow 553 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: up loving comic books. My superheroes were athletes. It was 554 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: like Joe Sacki and Peter Forsberg and Federal march Emberdurg. 555 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: They were like superheroes, you know that, those were my superheroes. 556 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Bo Jackson was a superhero. Dion Sanders was a superhero. 557 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: And so I didn't ever that. I didn't connect to 558 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: comic books in any way. And you know, say what 559 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: you want about it, but I just did not. And 560 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: so when it came around to doing it, I only 561 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: knew Marvel from the movies. I didn't know them from 562 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: the comics that much. You know, they're they're always just 563 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: funny guys in tights and shields. And then when I 564 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: saw the movies, it was like, oh, they're doing a 565 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: great job with making it, you know, cool and more relatable. 566 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: So I just didn't know that much about it, and 567 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: then you google stuff and it's like don't do that, 568 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: because you'll go down a rabbit hole you'll never come 569 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: out of it. But we liken it to taking over 570 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: for tom Brady, like you're you're you're taking over for 571 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Chris Evans, You're taking over for Tom Brady, no pressure whatever, right, 572 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: And and I feel I feel terrible for whoever has 573 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: to take over for tom Brady. You know, it's like, 574 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, good luck, You're going to fail. And 575 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: and so that's was part of the part of the trepidation. 576 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: And then when they told me what the character was, 577 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, okay, that's interest. There's an interesting 578 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: aspect like I can't give away that you know, is 579 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: it does you do like in it to that he 580 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: created MEMC you or helped it with all those guys. 581 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: And so when you're coming in, you're going, oh, I 582 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: hope I can just do the thing that I do. 583 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: And then but you guys know me from even coming 584 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: in last time. It's like, I'm the last person in 585 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: the world who thought I would be doing this. This 586 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: is not what I thought I'd be doing, but here 587 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: I am. But when did you embrace acting? I mean, 588 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: obviously with your parents, you know, being famous, but at 589 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: what point, because you were you were a hockey player, 590 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: did you all of a sudden go okay, I'll give 591 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: in I'll be an actor now when I basically when 592 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: I got basically when I got hurt. To be honest, 593 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: is I had done little stuff for friends here and there. 594 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: I had done a movie and a small part of 595 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: the movie an agent, my agent and the current agent 596 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: saw it and said, was that guy represented by anybody? 597 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: He called me This is when I was playing hockey 598 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: in Germany and he said, are you do you want 599 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: to representation? Do you want to be movies? So I 600 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: was like, well, that's not what I do really, but 601 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: maybe commercials. That's not That's not what I do. But okay, 602 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: nice to meet you, see you later. Take have a 603 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: nice life. And then when I got hurt, it was 604 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: like whoa what am I gonna do? I'm I got 605 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: a coach? Or am I go? What am I going 606 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: to do? So I spent a few months off and 607 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: then came back and called him and said, look, I 608 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: might want to want to do this, but I'll give 609 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: it a shot. And I guess when it really happened. 610 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: I was twenty years old. I got hurt. They thought 611 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: I broke my neck. It was a disastrous story and 612 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: in a hospital for for overnight and it took a 613 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, scan on my neck. It was a bad, 614 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: bad night. And during that night, to be honest, it 615 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: was like, well, maybe I won't play hockey forever. It 616 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: was that first sort of you know, every athlete, I 617 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: think when they get real hurt for the first time, 618 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: you have that thought of home, this could be over 619 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: like that. You know, it's not. It's not forever. So 620 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: that was when I first sort of started entering my 621 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: mind was I can remember the night. Who was more 622 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: apt to give you advice? Your mom or your dad 623 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: on acting? Uh, No one gave me advice, you know. 624 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: It's like, no one gave me. It's it's really difficult 625 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: to give advice for acting. I feel like because it's 626 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: so subjective. It's not like it's not it's if your 627 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: dad was Peyton Manning and you're a quarterback, right, and 628 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: that's kind of a get in certain ways what it's 629 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: like you're not. It's very difficult to give that child 630 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: some form of like here's how I did it, because 631 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: you're different, you're a different person. You're not going to 632 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: give the the you're not going to give the same 633 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: advice to everybody, and everybody's different. So the advice was 634 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: always pretty easy. It was like, if you think you 635 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: can be good in a movie and you think that 636 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: you can make the movie better, than do it. It's 637 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: just like a sports team, and then then then make 638 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the team better. You can't, then don't do it, you know, 639 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: don't bring the don't bring the team down. He's a 640 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: whyat Russell he placed John Walker, the Newly Christ and 641 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Captain America's Marble and Disney's The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. 642 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: I got all that right, right, Oh yeah, now that 643 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: was you're killing that. How good do you think your 644 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: dad was in Miracle? He's how good do I think 645 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: my dad was a miracle? I think he? I think 646 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: he should have been nominated for an Academy Award. When 647 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: when you have the grandkids of it's a Disney movie 648 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: and it's all that, so it's not going to get 649 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But if if you have the 650 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: grandkids of her Brooks saying look, granddad on the screen, 651 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: You've done something right. And and he he had said before, 652 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: he said before that he really his father died. My 653 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: grandfather died while he was sewing that movie, and to 654 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: give an idea of what my dad like, what my 655 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: dad's like and sort of what you know, we're like, 656 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: uh and he passed away. It was like, we're gonna 657 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 1: shut down filming and my dad was like, no, I'm 658 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm gonna give me five minutes. I'm 659 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: gonna skate around. I'm going to continue doing because that's 660 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: what we do. We go to work when you work, 661 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: and and so he realized in that moment, He's like, well, 662 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm playing my grand I'm playing my father, and he 663 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: was playing his he was playing his dad. So he 664 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: connected to herb on many different levels. And when I 665 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: watched that movie, it's I look at as one of 666 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: the better, you know, biopic performances I've seen in a while. 667 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: Did you want a cameo in that movie? Did you 668 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: ask for once? Since it was a hockey movie. No, 669 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: they wanted me to and I because I was playing 670 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: hockey in Vancouver. So there was times where they were like, 671 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: why don't you come out and do some of this stuff? 672 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, it was the last thing in 673 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: the world you wanted to do. Is We had a 674 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: couple of players leave the team to go be in 675 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: the movie because they could make money, and and it 676 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: was it was like then they cut, then they came back. 677 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: I can wanted to play, and it was like, sorry, 678 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: you're you're you're out. If you made your choice, dude, 679 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: you decided to be an actor instead of a hockey player. Yeah, Um, 680 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: mcloven has a question for you because he said, look, 681 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to speak to white on 682 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: a different level than you will. Okay, So he's our 683 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: marble guy and he said that he could nerd out 684 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: with you. So mclovin your question for why No, No, 685 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna know so much more than me. It's gonna 686 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: be it's not gonna be a fun conversation. Okay, Yeah, 687 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: I know what you're doing here. Don't don't play it down. Okay, 688 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: are you currently or have you ever been a member 689 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: of Hydra? I'm talking about your character here. Well, these 690 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: are all questions. First of all, I don't know. And 691 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: second it's easier for me to not know to say 692 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I can't say it anyway. I 693 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: knew you could. And then the two men outside my 694 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: window will drag me off and you'll never see me again. 695 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: What does that mean mclovin. Oh see, that's the thing 696 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: why I don't work with Marvel guys. So Hydra is 697 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: this criminal organization that has been against Captain America for many, many, 698 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: many years, and they sort of are looming in the 699 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: background in the first two episodes, which are awesome, by 700 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's everyone says it's 701 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: been great. I haven't seen it, Like there's find it 702 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: impossible to watch myself in that suit, So I don't. 703 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: I haven't watched it, But I take it for other 704 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: people's I take it for from other people's mouths that 705 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: they're liking it. Says yeah, but get used to this. 706 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: Why this is what you're gonna face when you go 707 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: out for coffee and then you know the paparazzi is 708 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: going to be there at Starbucks when you come out. 709 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: No one knows who I am. It's fantastic, no one. 710 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. I think when I walk around and I 711 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: look like this on any clar it looks like you're 712 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: trying to be Ryan Fitzpatrick the court right. Yeah, by 713 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: the way, Like I'd much rather be mistaken for Ryan 714 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick than for Captain America. Have you worn the outfit 715 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: home for your wife? Yeah, I'm sure she would maybe 716 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: ask for a divorce if I work or at home. 717 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: Shoot my question, there'd be too many questions to answer 718 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: as to why I was doing it. I have a 719 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: legitimate question. Okay, you guys, Okay, So I want to 720 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: know how to the penny. How much was the Fritzie 721 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: Cone of shame? How much did it cost to install 722 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: that thing? Because it has a beautiful rate of descent 723 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: when it goes. You mean this curtain that's going down 724 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: on Fritzie right. Yes, I can't I don't see it, 725 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: but it just seems like it must have been like 726 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: twelve grand have been something expensive. I truly don't know 727 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: how much it cost. I do know that the guy 728 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: who was installing it couldn't understand why I wanted it, 729 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: and I just said, this is what I want. It's 730 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: a cone of silence. And I think the velvet was 731 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: the expensive part of this, all of the fabric that 732 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: I made for Fritzie's Cone silence. But but thank you 733 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: for well, of all the questions you could ask. Why, 734 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: thank you for asking that questions. It's great to talk 735 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: to you, and good luck with the baby in the family. 736 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Take care guys, that's Whyatt Russell. 737 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 738 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 739 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio app