1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Uh, working out at the gym the Equinox of the mall, 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: because I'm training for the Tough Mutter, you know, the 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: the race with the electric with the electric zappers and so, 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: oh my and so hook up a car battery to 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: the treadmill. Kind of army, army, crawling on the treadmill, 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: kind of flat on my stomach, electrically zapped, getting zapped 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: on my tummy at the same time. Oh my, for 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: the climbing wall, I climb up the treadmill for the 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: it's electric or no, it's for that part. You cannot 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: de electrify it. Once it's electric. It is electric. 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: For me. 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: Doing the swimming through the pool, I pour some water 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: on the treadmill and I sort of run through. 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: That, run through the and the treadmill run through the water. Rufi. 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: At the mall, Ruthie comes over. Oh from real Hawaii. 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: She I guess doesn't work there, but has a lot 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: of friends who work there, So she hangs out there 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: a lot and sort of considers herself like she like 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: she does work there, something, likes to act like she does. 20 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Does she wear an Equinox shirt? 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: Does it? 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: Because if she's wearing like like one of her friend's 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: Equinox shirt that is like too big, right, But so 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 2: does the shirt say great coach or clean? 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Does Ruthie? They gave her her own job just to 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: be Ruthie? 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: Wow? 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: And is she dating the fellow who was a DJ 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: that season? 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: It did not we didn't talk about this. Oh, we 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: just didn't. It didn't get into personal stuff because she 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: comes over just saying stop, stop, stop it, stop it no. Yes, 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: And so we get into the back and forth for 34 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: a little while, and it ended up that I, because 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I was in sort of a climbing mode, that I 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: climbed her, and then I was like helping other people up, 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, because that is actually part of the race, 38 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: is that you don't leave anyone behind. And so the 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: next people are are coming up, and I'm like sort 40 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: of lifting them up, like the girls, especially the like 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, the girls are smaller and they're not as strong, 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: and you. 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Like, we don't say that on this show. I'm sorry, 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: what did I tell you? I'm sorry, I didn't know 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: we had We don't say that on this show. The 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: girls are smaller and they're not as strong. That's not 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: even proven. The world's passing you by now, finish the story. 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: You climbed them up on top of Ruthie. You pulled 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: up the girls only because yeah, everyone needs a pull 50 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: up every now and then. Man, woman, black or other stuff. 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: And I got I got the shirt, Indians and stuff. 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: I became. I got to be Ruthie at the gym. 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: Yes, hey, welcome to Hollywood Handbook and Insider's Guide to 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: kicking by and dropping a team right carpet lineback hallways 55 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: of this industry we call showbiz. 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: Yes, Hollywood Handbook. 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: What up? What up? 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: We have fun today? We've never done such an exciting 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: thing like this. 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: No, we haven't. This is the best episode. I like 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: to announce at the beginning that we're having our best episode. 62 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: If you've listened to other ones, I feel bad for you. 63 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,279 Speaker 2: You're pathetic. 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: It's two guys who've been on episode before, not flagship 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: episodes necessarily. 66 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: That necessarily lists make good solid epps. But are they there? 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: You know what was missing from each of their episodes 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: each other? Yes? 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: And so sometimes we bring people in and we say, like, 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: maybe this wasn't the perfect combination, but maybe if we've 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: rearranged these pieces a little bit, this puzzle will start 72 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: to come into focus. 73 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Well, and I'm getting into it a little bit early, 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: but when you're assembling people for a project like this, 75 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: you're something of a chemist or a chef m hmm. 76 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Maybe a pinch of Kevinetts or a scientific chef, a 77 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: dash of Pat free molecular gastronomicy Yes, and it's Kevin 78 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Attan and Pat Walsher here. And what we want to 79 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: do is have them introduce themselves, but not just in 80 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: their context as individuals, as men, but also as showrunners. 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: As individuals, as white men. We do have six white 82 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: men in the room today, and that's not because women 83 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: are smaller and weaker, like Hayes said, is because we 84 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: don't really know any that want to hang out with 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: us except for my wife. 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: And the biograph and uh, Kevin the production coordinator isn't 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: even here you taking the pictures. 88 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. There will ultimately be seven white men, 89 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: sis sis men. H. 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: We want our guests to talk about themselves, uh, but 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: also the shows they've run in the past, because what 92 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: we're trying to put together here is a showrunners panel 93 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: to teach people about the craft of building a show 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: from the writer's room to the Like every other room 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, managing every facet of the of all 96 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: the different rooms involved in the show, the little kitchen part. 97 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: There's a kitchen at Yeah, what up? 98 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: What up? 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 2: Thank you? Kevin? Fan? 100 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: What up? What up? 101 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: And oh fan? As I found out. 102 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Yes, I just silence from engineer Brett. I just want 103 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: to point out, as people are sort of announcing the 104 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: fandom of the show, uh what it says, I'm gonna 105 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: and it's not his place off the show to be 106 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: saying that. He would be punished if he did say it. 107 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: But I thought the silence was like my flagship thing. 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 2: Okay, Brett, you interrupted Kevin. 109 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: He was going to are you just remembering a word 110 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: I used like three minutes ago out black terrible use. 111 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Brett, you're interrupting Kevin and he was trying to 112 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: say something. No. 113 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 5: I just wanted to say before we start that just 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: that term writer's room that gets thrown around, it. 115 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: Does, doesn't it. I don't love it, oh, because. 116 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 5: To me, I would call it like we call it 117 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 5: like a confessional. 118 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: It's the therapist couch. 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 5: Yeah that you know, it's a place where we go 120 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 5: in and it's it's such a you know, private kind 121 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: of beautiful space. 122 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: Yes, stories don't come from writing stories. Stories come from Kevin. 123 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to interrupt you. But I also see 124 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: it as a playground, have a therapist playground. Yeah, my turn. 125 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 2: It could be a water slide. That's true too. Well, 126 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: just you know, we're talking about how serious it is. 127 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: You're opening up your chest, you're showing people your heart 128 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: stories and the feelings of them. But also some of 129 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: those feelings. 130 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: Is fun like a waterslide, and sometimes it can be 131 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: like a trash can. 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: Sure, I dare you to disagree with that, Brett. 133 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: You want to interrupt that, Brett. 134 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: Sure, some days the writer's room can be a trash can. 135 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: Some days I feel like water slide into a trash can. Yeah, 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: having fun all the way down, But then when you 137 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: land in the trash, stand up, banana peel draped off. 138 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 6: Your head, Yeah, fish skeleton in your hair, m M Heathcliff. 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: You would think the water would clean off the trash, 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: but well no, because it's at the bottom of it 141 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: just suck you out of the trash and up. 142 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: The slide, which is not Yeah, but the water not 143 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: nice slide. I've ever seen some star trek. I love 144 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. Ooh, space such a rich area 145 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: for a story. 146 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: So you guys, wait what I want to know what show? 147 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: I want a description of this space that you've created, Kevin, 148 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: that's so ripe for sharing, and also the show that 149 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: you've created it. 150 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: Right, So I work I helped to run Workaholics right now, 151 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: and I also did a pilot, very successful one canned 152 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 5: for ABC. 153 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: I'm sure you guys at this point it's kind of 154 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: one of those. 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: Brilliant but cancel brilliant freaks and geeks kind of like 156 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: gets passed around. That was That was Binds. 157 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 5: That was the last thing Manda Binds ever did pretty 158 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 5: in her life. 159 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: In her life. 160 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: It was that and she like threw a bong out 161 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: a window or something. Uh, well, that's huge. 162 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, I know that is kind of what I've 163 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 5: been coasting off of. But you know, Workaholics in terms 164 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 5: of creating a safe space, it is a place where 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: we can come in and we just tell each other 166 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 5: story about our lives and anything goes. 167 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: You're not trying to make each other cry in that room, 168 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 2: but if it happens, it's welcome. The only thing really 169 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: unwelcome is judgment. That's right, pat what shows did you 170 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: run and how are you doing? I'm doing great. Thanks. 171 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 6: I got my start on just Elden, Ah Murphy Brown 172 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 6: spin off with Robert Pasturelli. I said, who can we 173 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 6: get for a spinoff? They said, just Elden. I said, 174 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 6: there's the show. Nobody had bothered to check pastor Elli's 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 6: a veil. We did not have him to play the 176 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 6: role of Elden, but we shot it, and you know, 177 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 6: it lasted about four epps. 178 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: And who ultimately was your Elden? 179 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 6: Our Elden was a third Belushie named Alex Belushi, who 180 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 6: was adequate at best. He was he certainly the lesser 181 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: of the Belushies. 182 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 6: After that, you know, there's all these minority shows on TV. 184 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Minority Report, Blackish has the Blacks, Christella has 185 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: the latinas, Muppets has Puppets, And I go into Johnny Davis. 186 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: I go Johnny. 187 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 6: I got a pitch. Indigenous people of Papa, New Guinea. 188 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 6: Where's their show? We call it Big Papa Parentheses New Guinea. 189 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 6: If people don't get it, but they should. 190 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully the parentheses you can lose them somewhere around 191 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: season four, I think so. I think people are on 192 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: board and now you know. 193 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 6: I created the lucrative CBS franchise Aberca Dabros, which is 194 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 6: about a team of magicians, which aired two full months 195 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 6: before the premiere of Now You See Me, and years 196 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 6: before Now You See Me too. I did Abrica Dabros. 197 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 6: I did Abrica Babies, which was like the junior edition. 198 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 6: I did Flabrica Dabra, which was fat. 199 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: Magicians, don't leave anyone out, you know. 200 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 6: I did Flabrick Cabarbar, which was a Flaberca Dabra spinoff 201 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 6: starring Rebel Wilson. And I did Behind the Candelabracadabra, which 202 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 6: was about game magicians. 203 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: That is such a thorough list. Thank you, Pat. I 204 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: like hearing this. So when you're doing all this magic stuff. 205 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, is that your review of it? 206 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Or no? When you're doing all this magic stuff, all 207 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: these aber kadab shows in the entire Abercadabra verse, sure, 208 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: what do you say to people who think, like, well, 209 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: isn't the whole point of magic that it's actually happening 210 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: And if you have cuts and camera tricks and special effects, 211 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: then it's really just like not even it's taking away 212 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: the only element that makes magic interesting or impressive. 213 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 6: Well, in its purest form, which was Abercadabros, each hour 214 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 6: long episode was done without cuts. Oh wow, sort of 215 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: bird Man or Nick of Time with Johnny. 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: Birdman has six cuts? Doesn't You can find them? It's 217 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: not easy, Yeah, go frame by frame. You do have 218 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: to go frame by frame, which I'm happy to do 219 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 2: because I have a lot to learn from that movie. 220 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: Can I say that you did mention a couple of 221 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: the magic shows that are personally my favorites, and it's 222 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: great for you to be so humble, But the the 223 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: hummus based magic show that you did, Cadet, That's right, Yeah, 224 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: and the one that was the crossover between the Games 225 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Show hosted by Ben Bailey and and the magic. 226 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: Show cash Cari. 227 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 6: Now I'm only talking about the ones that are still 228 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 6: on the air, but those certainly hold a special place 229 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 6: in my heart. 230 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: Well, we've all run shows, haven't we? Would you? 231 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 232 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: Have you talked about yours? The show that you've run, 233 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: well talked about on the show before. Yeah, I've run two. 234 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean I try to keep my hands in drama 235 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: and comedy. So I'm still doing Outlander. We're very excited 236 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: about the next season. I think it's about space or 237 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: something like that, and I love that stuff as part 238 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: of the very very small sliver of the population that 239 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: enjoyed comic books and Star Wars growing up, being able 240 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: to get in that sandbot talk. 241 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: To me about, oh yeah, about all the space. 242 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: It's authentically romantic and it is empowering. I think for everyone, 243 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: what what do you guys have? What's in the hopper? Yeah? Oh, brother, 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked. I'm not liberty to say, of course, 245 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: just one, just a little bit. Yes, the man will 246 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 2: have sort of a pirate shirt. We've talked a lot 247 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: about flagships. Well that's and two bones flag is uh 248 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: you know that's that's a flagship too. And the man 249 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: will have a pirate shirt and he will be standing 250 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: like looking so that show, but obviously I also want 251 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: to laugh. So we're into pre pro. Everyone knows that 252 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: nightmare on pasta mon Hello Italian Jamaican family, spaghetti colnder 253 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: on our Head, spaghetti dreads, uh, fettuccini dreads. The list 254 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: goes on tagli itally all handmade spinish pasta, whole wheat, 255 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: sundried tomato, pesto as shampoo, and what's it about. 256 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 6: The pasta mot is sheriff? Okay, A mean sheriff. I 257 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: mean I saw it on Deadline. I want to hear 258 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 6: it horse's mouth. 259 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: What's it about? Yeah, I guess it's about we all 260 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: wear masks, don't we? Yeah? Well, what if the mask was, 261 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: instead of being over your face, on the top of 262 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: your head, and it was a spaghetti calendar and it 263 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: had sort of dreads coming out of it. So that's you. 264 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: Know the Eldente. 265 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: Brett You interrupted me, Hayes, did you run a show? 266 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 6: I thought, By the way, the most fascinating aspect of 267 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 6: Outlander to me is that they shoot it in Detroit. 268 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, yeah, I remember that when I was 269 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: doing that. 270 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 271 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 6: Oh, those lush countrysides and moors and landscapes. 272 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it that you would say, 273 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: oh really. 274 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's been pretty checked out. 275 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: I had gotten so in this, you know, pre pro 276 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: can be a nightmare. Sure, I had gotten so into 277 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: the Postamon world that I was in some ways divorcing 278 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: myself from that Outlander thing where we're doing in Detroit. 279 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: I guess I. 280 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 6: Will say, you seem to have a very hazy understanding 281 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 6: of postumon as well. 282 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: Though. 283 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: Well, what I like to say is every time you 284 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: define what the show is, who the characters are, where 285 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: it's set, what's happening in the show, you are closing 286 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: off so many avenues that I like to stay open. 287 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: I don't like to say the show is this. 288 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 7: I like to say the show could be something like 289 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 7: this if you like that, or we'll change it. Yeah, 290 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 7: And it's that kind of malleability, yeah, because they have 291 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 7: so much freedom to pitch just literally anything, and they 292 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 7: know ultimately I'm going to go down the hall, you know, 293 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 7: put my buds in and just click clack it away 294 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 7: and some. 295 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 2: Gold's gonna come out. But it's all gonna be inspired 296 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: by what they have said. Has you ever run a 297 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: show or TV show? 298 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: I did a show called Sugarman's Halloween. It was an 299 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: anthology show hosted by the Sugarman. 300 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: Searching for Sugar Rodriguez. 301 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, about the different things that he thinks are scary, 302 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: and the scariest thing to him is fame is like 303 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: being recognized for his fame. 304 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Amen. 305 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of him playing a song and 306 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: then getting scared. 307 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: Of the good song that he's playing. 308 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: So he's like looking at his guitar and he's like 309 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: getting kind of freaked out by the song Big So Good, 310 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: and then he starts to like try to run away 311 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: from his guitar while he's playing it, so like he 312 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: can't really stop playing the guitar, and he seems kind 313 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: of like amazed that it's going with him while he's 314 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: playing the song. 315 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: What's the name of the Corkscrew? Pastas the Okay, well 316 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: that's season two, by the way, go ahead, what were you? 317 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: What else did you do? No? What what is season two? 318 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: Pastam on? 319 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 320 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: I was just I had said handmade tag Telly Dreadlocks 321 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: season two, Season two, maybe we go into Fassili. I 322 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: just had that idea. I wanted to record it. This 323 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: is where I get a lot of the ideas for 324 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: my shows as I go back and listen to what 325 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: I said on the podcast. 326 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: The other thing, I you know, and I didn't know 327 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 5: if I should bring this up where we're at. 328 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 6: You're just as safe here as you are on your writers. 329 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: Thank you, but the kind of I think it was 330 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: three weeks of helping to run this show my stint here. 331 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, and you know you didn't even talk 332 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 5: about it beforehand, and I. 333 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: Know you showed up at a pivotal turning point for 334 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: the show. 335 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: You helped to define a lot of the culture here. Yeah, 336 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: it remains. And you, if I remember correctly, you pitched 337 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: Engineer Brett. 338 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the one thing I can take credit for. 339 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 5: And you know, I wouldn't say I ran the show. 340 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: I ran it with the two of you, but I 341 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 5: knew there was something missing. 342 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: Do you remember what the what the pitch was. 343 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 5: You can tell the story. This is not my story 344 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 5: to tell if you want, if you want to put 345 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 5: that out there. 346 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so humble about it. I don't you know. 347 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: Again, I go back to I go back to it. 348 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: Being a confessional booth, a church, a Buddhist monastery. But 349 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 5: this is again, this is your show, fly little birdie fly. 350 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 351 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: My recollection of it is that you were late that day, okay, 352 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: and you know we were all sort of like should 353 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,719 Speaker 1: we get started, like do we just do we just 354 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: go home. 355 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: So quick that you get used to that guiding hand? 356 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And then Kevin comes in soaking wet. 357 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: Not with water or we should say no with I 358 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: guess juice. Yeah, some kind of juice. I think you 359 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: said it was tangilo or a guava, right, it's like 360 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: a green five. But oh okay, And he said, I'm 361 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: conflating two stories. You are, he said, guys, I'm so sorry. 362 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: I'm lee. I was just at Gelsids. 363 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: I was doing my shopping and this this guy, uh 364 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: just suddenly flew into the store on a sled. The 365 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: automatic door is opened for him, and he smashed into 366 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: all the juice and he spilled juice everywhere on like 367 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: sort of a roller sled that it looked like was 368 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: something that he invented. And he had a beard, and 369 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: he was wearing a little newsboys cap, and he seemed 370 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: like he liked to pretend that he loved music. And 371 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: I think this is a guy that you should that 372 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: you should have on your show. 373 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 3: I said, do that again what you just did? Can 374 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: you do that again? 375 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 5: He did it four more times, and we were both 376 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 5: arrested and we came straight here. So sorry if I 377 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: was an hour and a half late. 378 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: No, no one was mad about any of that. And 379 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: you had the juice on you, and he did it 380 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: four more times, and he's done it one hundred times 381 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: since then. And it's the only thing he does, and 382 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: it's the only thing he needs to do. Pretending he 383 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: likes music is such a huge part of Engineer Bread. 384 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: Today is the first day I've seen him not in 385 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: a Beatles T shirt. And the Beatles, as we all know, 386 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: are this little the group. And he's decided to go 387 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: into sort of the counterculture film world today by wearing 388 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: a Star Wars T shirt. But he somehow finds these 389 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: little niche you know, artists and these weird. 390 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: Characters, even from Star Wars that are like the deep 391 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: cuts that people. 392 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: Don't know about. I've never seen some of these guys. Yeah, 393 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: like Darth Vader. I'm a huge fan of the movie. 394 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: I've never seen some of these guys. 395 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 6: Well, you put a shirt like that on, and then 396 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 6: you go out you meet a young lady in a 397 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 6: Darth Vader shirt as well, and you're like, well, now. 398 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: I know this is my soulmate. Yeah exactly, which is exciting. 399 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: So if they know. 400 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 4: This Stormtrooper that's on it, yeah, I mean that's just 401 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 4: instant connection. 402 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bruce, I just want to say. 403 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 6: Kevin, I had to pass on running this show, and 404 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 6: I'm so glad that you got that job and not 405 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 6: somebody I didn't like and respect. Maybe it's tacky to 406 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 6: bring it up, but you know, I think you knew 407 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 6: I was I was going to be the first choice. 408 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 409 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 6: I hope you nailed it a second and it sounds 410 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 6: like you did. I think so second or we the 411 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 6: people between. 412 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: There were Yeah, I mean I don't you know, numbers 413 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 2: are not my strong suit. I'm a guy. Yeah, so 414 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: we don't necessarily to get into like who was in 415 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: between Pat or whether Pat was even first, but what 416 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: we really think, you know, yeah, we and you may 417 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: have been my. 418 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 6: Agent told me, and agents are notoriously very honestly. 419 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: Should we build a room? I mean, is this is 420 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: it time? Would be so fun for us to just 421 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: jump into Is it. 422 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: Time to get our hammer and saw out of the 423 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: toolbox and build the perfect room. We've all worked in 424 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: many confessionals. Uh, Buddhist monasteries, no mistake, Uh, water water parks, 425 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 2: trash cans, trash cans as well. And oh and also 426 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: I ran the show The Grinder, and we have all 427 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: worked in those environments. And uh, and I ran community 428 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: and arrest development genius, so we know, yes, so we 429 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: know what it takes to create a great room. So 430 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: let's do sort of a fantasy. 431 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: This is the part of this is sort of the 432 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: first responsibility of any showrunner. You say, Okay, it's time 433 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: for me to assemble my team, and so you draw 434 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: from a pool of all the available writers. But what 435 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: a pleasure this will be for us where everybody's on 436 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: the table. 437 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 6: Ideally you get an Avengers, an Ocean's eleven, not Abrika Dabros. 438 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 6: And you don't wind up with some like the benchwarmers, 439 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 6: you know, Peter Schneider, the other guy, Swarzton. 440 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, a bunch of great, great tastes that tastes great together. Me. 441 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm I love that you got to sports 442 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: because I do think of it like a sports team, 443 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: and I'm so into soccer. I'm yes, you need the kicker, 444 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: the kicking guy. You got to have the strong guy. Yeah, 445 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: you're going to need a runner or some kind of yeah, 446 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: some kind of Uh did I say strong man? I 447 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: think you did, And a referee. 448 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 6: So we're supposed to pick the best writer in our minds. 449 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 6: Can you go TV and film? 450 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we're drafting based on need. So once we 451 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: have somebody on the team, then we don't need someone 452 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: with a similar you don't need to kick. Yes, can 453 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: you can go TV or film? You can what you 454 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: can go TV or film and living or TV or 455 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: film living you're dead? Okay, So let's not forget Kevin Smith, 456 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Simmons Smith. Okay, So what is that Kevin Smith? 457 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: What is that fulfilling for us? 458 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 3: So? 459 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: What's off? 460 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: Well? 461 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: You know, well, I mean what do we have? 462 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 6: You know, you know him best from his his fell 463 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 6: mouthed indie comedies in a shoe string budget. I take 464 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 6: them all the way down to his new forays into 465 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 6: horror and suspense with Tusk, about a man who was 466 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 6: fused with a walrus. 467 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and discovering marijuana at age forty three. 468 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 6: I think that helped him immensely, helped him focus, helped 469 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 6: him really get in the pub, not. 470 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: Just discovering but making it his primary personality. 471 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 6: Yes, all that in the long shorts in the Hockey Jersey. Yes, Tusk, 472 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 6: for my money, was the best man Walrus movie of 473 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 6: that year, second best one, top two. Wow, I hate 474 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 6: to take everybody's number one. Well, yeah, well it's hockey. 475 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 2: We wouldn't be in this, you know, we wouldn't be 476 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 2: where we are in this business if we weren't competitive 477 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: and so getting socked in the jaw where you come 478 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: out with maybe the best writer on the table, and 479 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: I go like, well, now I'm scrambling because that was 480 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: my pick. Yeah, yeah, Shakespeare and Jean Shorts. 481 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 5: I mean, now that he's gone, now that Kevin Smith's 482 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: off the table. I wasn't going to do this this early, 483 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 5: but Hayes' story about Ruthie brought me back to someone 484 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 5: who I'm I'm going to bump up, let's say, but 485 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: I think for my money tech money, Okay, is the 486 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 5: guy who I want in their spinning stories? 487 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? And what does he bring to the table specifically 488 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: for you? Obviously he's a storyteller, but is there something 489 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: about his energy. 490 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 5: Or No, it's it's just the storytelling he did I 491 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: think three or four years of Pixar just cranking with 492 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 5: those guys. He's a guy that is just going to 493 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 5: be relentless about what does this act break? 494 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: Does this make sense? 495 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: You've seen the twenty two Rules of Storytelling by Pixar? 496 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: Well have I seen it? You read it, I've memorized it. 497 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: Coincidences that got your character into trouble are fine? Coincidence 498 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: that get your character out of trouble. Tech's going to 499 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: beat that ass, you know what I mean? And he 500 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 2: did beat me up. 501 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, I hate to be a babe in the woods here. 502 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 6: I don't know who this man is talking about it. 503 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: That's the thing about a lot of these picks, our guys, 504 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: they don't like get so much credit because they're part 505 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: of like a larger machine. The gentleman's name is Tech Money, 506 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: and he's a that's a sort of extended name. Yeah, 507 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: his his original name was Tech. He was he was 508 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: a cast. 509 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: Member on Real World Turned and they gradually no no 510 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: no Irene had lined. Then I don't know Steve Ruthie 511 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: jumped in the pool naked. She has an okay, yeah, 512 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: then I do know who he is. I must have 513 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: forgotten and Amaya and Tech and Collin. He was the 514 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: breakout kind of storyteller character. Sure, that's a good pick, 515 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: what I was thinking. 516 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes you draft people who that have been involved with 517 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: shows that like, maybe you take some of that magic 518 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: for your own show. If we could get any of 519 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: what the Simpsons has had going for for so long 520 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: for this room, So we take somebody that's been involved there, 521 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: I wonder if we could get Wade Boggs, who was 522 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: at that episode of First Word going in front of 523 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: Home or as friends with all the baseball guys, if 524 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: if he would be a good presence in the show. 525 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: He also famously would drink seventy beers on every cross 526 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: country flight. 527 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: I mean that a little bit steps on mine. I 528 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: was going to take drag and bender. Oh okay, the 529 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, new power forward for the Phoenix ung. Yeah, 530 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: I think maybe that is that space is filled. Yeah, 531 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: so I guess what I have to do now is 532 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: pivot and that's always know welcome. And I think who 533 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: I would probably take is Pizzazz, who I think was 534 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 2: the rival of Jem on Jem and the Holograms. Her 535 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: band was in many ways more popular, Yeah, but also 536 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: didn't have the same trick with the earrings with synergy guys. 537 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: Elephant in the room here. Can she write? 538 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: You know? 539 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 6: Do we know if she can write? Because we're assembling 540 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 6: a lot a pretty heavy non rider. 541 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: Somebody is going to be in charge of music. I mean, 542 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: but the you. 543 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 6: Know, the original goal was writers. I went with a 544 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 6: writer and then we had three people with no ties 545 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 6: to writing at all. 546 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: That's concern. Have you ever been assembling the scene? And 547 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: I'm asking this question even though I hope I know 548 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: the answer. Have you ever been assembling the scene and 549 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: go this doesn't work and you put the right song 550 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: underneath it, and all of a sudden it's funny and cool. Sure, 551 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: all right, good point. Well that's what Pizzazz is bringing 552 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: to the table. Welcome a board post. 553 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: And I also want people that have lived their lives. 554 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't want people that only know. 555 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 6: I gotta say dream team though, even never getting a 556 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 6: musician living or dead, I don't know that that I 557 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 6: leaned towards Pizzazz for that, for that music supervisor role. 558 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: Well, what we know Pizzazz has his experience. I don't 559 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: know that. We do know that. We're pretty sure we 560 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: think she was probably Jim's rival maybe on that show. 561 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: And what we what we really know about her is 562 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: that she had some frustrations in the business, that she 563 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: maybe wasn't the biggest star in the world. That she 564 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: knows how it feels to get burned, to get upstaged 565 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: by Jim whose original name was Jered. 566 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 6: Why don't we get Jim because Jim Jim's let me Shaw, 567 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 6: Who's a better coach, you know, Michael Jordan or Steve Kerr. 568 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: Steve Kerr probably I haven't seen Jordan coach. But the 569 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: point is, when someone achieves the heights that Jim achieved, 570 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: they don't need to know how to teach it. They 571 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: don't need to know how to instruct. They don't know 572 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: what goes and put together because it just comes to 573 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: natural to them. They can just do it. Take me 574 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: as a writer, I'm so funny. Naturally, it's hard for 575 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: me to tell someone how to do it. But you 576 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: get like an engineer, Brett, he probably could give some 577 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: pretty good instructions because he's been trying for so long 578 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: to get anything going. He's possessed. 579 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: I hope he's had to study the rules so closely 580 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: and hoping that eventually he's looking for a loophole. 581 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 582 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, look round two. I'm going to try to go 583 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: ahead and steer it to at least a second rider. 584 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: Oh wait, I want to, I just want to. Is 585 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: this a snake draft? I think it might be a 586 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: snake draft. It's a snake draft, So I gotta go 587 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 2: twice and then we come back around. 588 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 5: Oh okay, Also, Pat, just FYI tech money did right, Wally, 589 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 5: So we're not dealing with it. 590 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: Well, then say that I said he worked at Pixar 591 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: for three years. He didn't. Sorry, he wrote, Wally, he 592 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: didn't get credited for it. Okay, I don't know. We 593 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: know that works. I ran rest of development and freaking 594 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: geeks just again. Now we have Tech nine pizzazz an anime. 595 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: You're a little bit of deuce. All right, let's take 596 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: it back around. He's wilful. Let's take it back around 597 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: willfully up tous. Okay, he wants someone who has written. 598 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: Pat wants a writer so bad. I don't want to 599 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: see his head pop off. So let me just think 600 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: for one second. I have to ignore what my original 601 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: pick was, and I have to get a writers is closer. 602 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: She's in the entertainment. No, no, no, we'll do it 603 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: your way. I'll probably take Kelly Oxford. 604 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 605 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: Freaking everything's perfect when you're a liar is a book. 606 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: And well, honestly, if you have Kelly Oxford, you have 607 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: her kids, Okay, and her kids are constantly saying these 608 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: like unbelievable. 609 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: Phone mo, and that's bringing in what are we talking? 610 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty k? 611 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, eyeballs, yes, immediately, and so socials instant are off 612 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 2: the instant, No, you're tracking off the charts. 613 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: And so I would love Kelly Oxford if only for 614 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: she can show up in the room every day and see, say, like, guys, 615 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: this morning, my kid was like, Hey, this waffle looks 616 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump's hair. Yeah, and so then and then 617 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: we can if we're allowed to use the stuff that 618 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: her kids. 619 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: That's just saying nothing from you know, stories from the 620 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: set of Aloha. So it's like we're getting so many 621 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: different elements with just one pick. She's a writer, yes, 622 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: she's not just a writer. Oh, she's in it. I 623 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: saw Loha. Yeah, well and you've seen my girl watching 624 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 2: it again, So I guess I'll look for her next time. 625 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: Can I just say I love what a diverse room 626 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: we're putting together. We have two ladies in the room. 627 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: I think that's probably good. We have we have tech 628 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: of course, who's uh, there's a minority. 629 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: Presence who knows what he is. 630 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think to round it out, it would be 631 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: great to have a strong Italian character, something like, uh, 632 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: cousin Vinnie. 633 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: I think Cousin Vinnie would be that could really help us. 634 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: Would be great for this room. What I love about 635 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Cousin Vinnie is he calls you on your bullshit. Yes, 636 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: he's not somebody who is going to see a magic show, 637 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 2: no offense to Abercadabros and not say how the trick worked. 638 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: I remember this from a speech in the movie. 639 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 6: But you now you know that Cousin Vinnie is a 640 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 6: fictitious character. 641 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: You must know that, yes, but that's what makes him 642 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: so good at right because he knows what to do. 643 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: We're gonna call an agency and say, hey, get us 644 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 2: Cousin Vinnie. I never thought Brett's side. I don't spoil 645 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: the movie, Please don't spoil. 646 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 6: It came about twenty four years ago. 647 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: We think to the death some of us are catching up. 648 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: But you know Shawn's claim that that Cousin Vinnie's binging 649 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: it with binging bidging the movies very bad. Shaun's cousin 650 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 2: Vinnie would be a great hire because he calls people 651 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: in their bullshit. Go with the Marissa Tomay character. She 652 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: calls people on. 653 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: Like it's not a car show and we're a little 654 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: saturated with She's also a woman, that's what cars. 655 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying we're kind of full of beautiful 656 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: easy on the eyes. Or go with a h an 657 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: actual person or a egg Jesus beautiful We've got. That's 658 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: how we're hiring easy on the eyes. You didn't like 659 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 2: you because I did like Pizzazz. You know, you think 660 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: picture because she had a book New York Times bestseller, 661 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: international best seller Canada counts. You fuck her? Sorry, I 662 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: got mad. That's why I liked her as a pick. 663 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: She's written, Yeah, well that's why I picked her too, 664 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 2: And I said that at the time. 665 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: So we've got Kevin Smith, Tech Money, Wade Boggs, Pizzazz, 666 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: Kelly Oxford, cousin Vinnie. 667 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't a good group for going to dinner, 668 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: let alone running at television. 669 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: You don't want to go to dinner with cousin Vinnie 670 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: and Pizzazz. 671 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Pat, but that. 672 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to see cousin Vinny talk about the grits. 673 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't eat in syncrets. No self respecting Southerner would, Kevin. 674 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 6: Can I ask you to just think through your pick 675 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 6: for ten seconds before get me something. Okay, just think it, 676 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 6: think about the day to day in the room with 677 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 6: an alcoholics, baseball player and an animated. 678 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 2: Care and this monstress. 679 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 5: This may step on some toes, but speaking to what 680 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 5: you have just brought up, Pat, I gotta go with 681 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 5: the best writer. 682 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: I know. 683 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: It's a guy by the name of Dominic teer Keys. Okay, 684 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: there we go. 685 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 3: And he had a writing partner for a long time, carried. 686 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 2: Him, carried him. 687 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 5: But the guy's got it all. Yeah, he's a writer 688 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 5: and a performer and a human being who you'd want 689 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 5: to have dinner with. 690 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: Now, when you say carried him, do you mean set 691 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: him on fire through telekinesis? I think you mean traumatically? 692 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: He got this period in the opening scene. I think 693 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: you know, I don't mean that. Okay, it's just it's 694 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: for the audience. What's he doing? Is he available? What's 695 00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: he doing now? Dom Yeah, he's probably busy. I just 696 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: you know, don't you have him doing? I got him 697 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: working on some stuff? 698 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 699 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: Like what what's like? What's going on with him? Carrying 700 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 2: my jockstrap? Finally earned the right? Do you mean bidding 701 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 2: your period in the shower carrying my jock strap? No, 702 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 2: that's a ridiculous question. 703 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought so as well. Well, Pat, you get 704 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 6: to pick now, So well, I'm going to take America's sweetheart. 705 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: What are you? Allen? 706 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 2: He's a he's a writer. 707 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, he's one of those guys who looks 708 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 6: just as natural with uh, you know, a Dame Judy 709 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 6: Dench or a Dakota Fanning on his arm. 710 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 2: We've gotten in trouble on this show before for touching 711 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: on Woody Allen. Obviously there's some people very upset about 712 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: some controversy around him having to do with touching on. Yes, yes, 713 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 2: touching on and people think he's too old to write. 714 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 2: You know, I see a lot of articles about his age, 715 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 2: and in the headline there will often be a much 716 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: younger age mentioned, and I assume the article is saying that, like, 717 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 2: the younger age is the one you should be if 718 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 2: you're going to write direct. 719 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: I don't know. 720 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: I haven't read the articles just because my phone's really buggy, 721 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: but you know, I don't think that's fair. I think 722 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,959 Speaker 2: at any age, if you've got the chops, then chop 723 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: it on up. Hashtag karate. Uh, Okay, he's in. You 724 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: get to pick twice now because the Snake draft, So 725 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 2: everything you complain about before now has come back to 726 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: benefit you. 727 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 6: Okay, thanks, Why don't we go twenty Tarantines? 728 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: Okayo? 729 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 6: Who else has changed the game of writing more than 730 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 6: Q two? 731 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: And so now I'm sort of starting to get a 732 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: picture of what you are acted. 733 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: To as well to people who've written stuff. Yeah, I 734 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 2: mean like physically since with a voice. 735 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: I know that you care about your writers being like hot, 736 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,479 Speaker 1: people that you. 737 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: Think are your main thing, and that so far you 738 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 2: picked Kevin Smith. 739 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: What on Quentin Tarantino, it's just starting to kind of 740 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: come into. 741 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: View a murderer's row. Yes, yeah, what you're like, what 742 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: you're attractive. I did want someone who was going to 743 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 2: put the N word in the scripts. I think we 744 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: all wanted them, Yeah, and that he would fight to 745 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 2: say it. Yeah, talking about writers hotness, Kevin's always had 746 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: a great philosophy on writers being hot. Uh, you'll only 747 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 2: hire sevens or above? Is that right? Right? 748 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 749 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 2: M h. 750 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 5: And it's a it's a physical thing. And it's also 751 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 5: uh what they're wearing. I mean, you're coming to a 752 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 5: meeting and you're a dude and you don't have super colorful, 753 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 5: colorful sneakers on. 754 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 2: H, what what are you doing? Why are you in 755 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 2: this game. How much skin is enough skin to show 756 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 2: in an initial interview. 757 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 5: Sure, I mean for guys, I just want to see 758 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 5: what they're working with. 759 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 2: Bicep wise, I want to be generous with the biceps. 760 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 3: Be generous. Yeah. 761 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 5: I want a tight fitting shirt to give me a 762 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 5: real sense of tight shirt. 763 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: No sleeves, we can go v sure, leave the sleeves 764 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 2: at home. 765 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 5: Leave the sleeves at home, go deep as you want 766 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 5: on the v mm hmm. 767 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 6: I was told by my agent, you like a blousey short. 768 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 6: That's absolutely okay. 769 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you have a fan in the room, that's 770 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: kind of like ruffling the shorts a little bit. 771 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 6: I wore Umbros from my meeting. I dusted off the 772 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 6: old bros Umbros. 773 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: I almost didn't get my job because I wore Michael 774 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 2: Sarah's running shorts from Juno, which I did by on 775 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 2: eBay sure and there, and they were very short and 776 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: very high, but they didn't really blow open. They were 777 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: so tight to my skin. And I think what Kevin 778 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: enjoys is the sort of peekaboo aspect of seeing the 779 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 2: fabric wave up in the air rather than just the 780 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 2: at sprote Yeah, it's so much of it. Is a vibe. 781 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 5: You know, a writer's room is built on people vibe 782 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 5: being each other. I don't care about ideas as much 783 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 5: as I care about a presence. 784 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, and you're building an audience, and if you have 785 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 2: an ugly writer's room, then uggos will watch your show, 786 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: and that's who will come up to you and say, 787 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: this is that we like it, we think this is funny. 788 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: And then that's who's talking you on the street. Enough 789 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 2: people see uggos talking to you, all of a sudden 790 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: you're a You're an honorary uggo yourself. You know. 791 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 6: Guys again Devil's advocate here. They're not going to see 792 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 6: the writers, They're going to see the performers on the show. 793 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: But that's the voice, the experience of the uggo will 794 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: bleed through into the script. And this is coming from you. 795 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you like your number one thing is hot 796 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: in this when you're choosing graters as well. I mean, 797 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: that's why we're talking about this with Kevin, because he 798 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: shares his philosophy with you. 799 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 2: Fair enough. I guess we hate most what we are. 800 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 3: You know. 801 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 6: SUREM Tarantino's got that hot Frankenstein thing going that I like, hmm, 802 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 6: what he Allen is in his late one tens, which 803 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 6: I respond to, and then I, oh, Kevin Smith, you 804 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 6: know recently lost four hundred and seventy pounds, so. 805 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 2: He's looking better too. Yeah, what are you? Allen only 806 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 2: put back to twenty five looks at If you think 807 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: of him as a man, he looks old. But if 808 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: you think of him as a praying mantis, he almost 809 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: looked like a baby. 810 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 6: That's probably why they thought of him for ants. 811 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's right. 812 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 6: Which pick did not follow any of Pixar's rules and said, 813 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 6: who do the kids like Woody Allen? When really I've 814 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 6: heard it the other way around, Kevin. 815 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 3: I agree. So my pick is I'm Bill maher move. 816 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 2: Slide it over real quick, so you don't even give 817 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 2: a chance to argue. 818 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 6: Just slide it over and then light a joint and 819 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 6: have sex with an African American prostuct too. 820 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm going I'm moving on to my next pick. 821 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,959 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go don't take Mar because it's in the air. 822 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 5: I'm not taking Mar because he's so funny. Absolutely, I'm 823 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 5: gonna go Laura c K And that's Louie's mom. Oh boy, 824 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 5: And I don't know if you got. I mean I 825 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 5: think in general, having a celebrities relative on your staff 826 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 5: is just you can pick Louie. I could, but I 827 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 5: want the person who writes what Louie. 828 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: Says, who inspired him, yes, and created Louis. How do 829 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: you know she's the funny one and not the dad? 830 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:51,879 Speaker 3: Pat? 831 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 5: How long have you been in this business? I mean, 832 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 5: this is an open secret at this point. 833 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: She's supposed to be the funny one. 834 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 5: Yes, I've had her in for punch Shop and the mind. 835 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 5: The way the mind works watching. 836 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: Her it pissing me off. It pisses me off because. 837 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 5: It's not too hard on the eyes either. 838 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 6: We have no restrictions on who we can put on 839 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 6: this staff. If if Sean were to have said, let's 840 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 6: pick a staff of comedians moms, I don't know that 841 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 6: Laura c k would have been on my list. 842 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: Now, that whole thing about can pick anyone, That whole 843 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: thing of Louis about planes being nice? 844 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that was her. 845 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 1: You know the thing about politics, uh being do it right? 846 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 2: For once? It's fun to divorce? Yeah, okay, jacket off right. 847 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 2: It feels awesome. Brett, we've been forgetting that. Brett was 848 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 2: ah Jesus Brett was a showrunner too. Now, Brett, why 849 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 2: don't we why don't we find out a little bit 850 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: about your shows, and why don't we give you the 851 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: last pick? Okay, and then make two or three. 852 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 4: There was one that was, uh like rock and roll Assassins, 853 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 4: and then what the Boy and his Gorilla what? 854 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:26,439 Speaker 3: Oh yeah? 855 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 2: Pitched Harambei Chow. But it's like way before that was 856 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 2: originally weekend at harambe I. 857 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: Guess we could talk about this. The way he pitched 858 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: the show was to like put these two characters together 859 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 1: in real life and be like this, see this will work, 860 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: Like this is like a viral stunt. This is a show. 861 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: He tosses a kid, We're going to form. 862 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 4: A band and and like try to make it in. 863 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 2: La until the rock and roll assassins come to town. Right. 864 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 4: That was gonna be the like the crossover question. 865 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 2: I never heard of one of them. 866 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Yeah, how long did they last? 867 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 868 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 4: Oh like a solid while? 869 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, quick question on rock and roll assassins. Yeah, guitar 870 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: shoots bullets. 871 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: No, oh okay, attention, No, they're they're shooting instruments. Yeah, 872 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: other men there, they're assassinating rock and roll as represented 873 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: by instruments. It's so Brett can have the only guitars. 874 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: It's kind of the kind of the idea fantasy. 875 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 2: Brett's part of the show. 876 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: He hires a rock and roll assassins to destroy all 877 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: the other guitars. 878 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 4: Not exactly, but it's way more complicated than that. 879 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 3: What is it? 880 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 4: What is it? 881 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 882 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 3: It's about what's it about? 883 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh? 884 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin. 885 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's more about rock and roll as an abstract idea, 886 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 4: and the assassins are are called upon by rock and roll. 887 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,439 Speaker 4: Take your time, yeah, I mean, and then they want 888 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 4: to because they want to rule the world. 889 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 2: Take your time. I would actually say speed it up. 890 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, so I would say get through it 891 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 6: a little quicker. 892 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So so I get all the guitars in the world. 893 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 4: That is how it ends. 894 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 2: That sounds very similar to what I rock and roll 895 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 2: is irrelevant art farm. That's still music that gets made. 896 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 4: And I think it's an attitude. 897 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just an attitude. Yeah, and see it is music. 898 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 2: This is how like he's just pretending to know about 899 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 2: this stuff. He doesn't know that rock and roll is music. Man. 900 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,240 Speaker 4: I think you should get an animal on the writing team. Okay, 901 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 4: who just like a bonobo. 902 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: A monkey because they've sunk each other's dicks? 903 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 4: Is that why you rub genitalia to resolve conflicts? 904 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: That's why you're very much pervert. And then now it 905 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 1: makes me that's even weirder that you would throw a kid. 906 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: Are you hoping that that's what would happen to the 907 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: kid with the monkey? 908 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 2: Now, you guys feel that we submit this list to 909 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: the studio and they're cool with every name on it. Well, 910 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 2: budget wise, it's going to be, you know, a little 911 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 2: bit of a tough squeeze. 912 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 6: Well, you don't don't pay a monkey, so that's thank you. 913 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 6: Brett saves us low cash right there. 914 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 2: You gotta pay for its food. You don't pay a 915 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: fictional character or an animated character, so that saves us 916 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 2: some money. 917 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 6: Gotta pay for their food, though I don't know that 918 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,359 Speaker 6: you do. Frankly, I'll draw a casse role and give 919 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 6: it to Grits. 920 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is Pizzazzi? Pizzas? Oh god? I mean, one 921 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 2: way I think we could save money is if we 922 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 2: feed pizzazz some of the dreadlocks from pasta Mons. Now 923 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 2: we're talking. 924 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't mind bowl that crossover. 925 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,440 Speaker 2: Are we doing a TV show or a movie? By 926 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: the way, we haven't even so I'm gonna go. 927 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to go. 928 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have somewhere to be. And uh, I love 929 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 2: you guys, and thank you for doing the show. And 930 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 2: I love you listeners. Please rate and subscribe. 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