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Speaker 1: Can'st play goun On this episode of Taking a Walk.

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Speaker 1: We're in the beautiful south shore suburbs of Boston, the

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Speaker 1: seacoast town of Situate, a beautiful little hideaway in Plymouth County.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to take a walk and reconnect with an

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Speaker 1: old friend. Joe Malone is a Boston fixture, American businessman,

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Speaker 1: former treasurer and Receiver General at Massachusetts and all around

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Speaker 1: good guy. For the Taking a Walk series, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk, an excursion to converse, connects, and catch

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Speaker 1: up at a cool location with some of the most

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Speaker 1: interesting people you can find. Here's buzznight. Well, mister Malone,

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking a walk with me. The pleasure

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Speaker 1: is mine. Buzz. It's so great to see you. It's

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Speaker 1: been a long long time. How you How have you been?

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Speaker 1: I count my blessings every day. I have a great

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Speaker 1: wife and four wonderful kids who are now grown up

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Speaker 1: So before we get into taking a walk, here, what

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Speaker 1: do you wear? And I'll tell you I'm wearing something new.

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Speaker 1: I want to toeut. What are you wearing there on

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Speaker 1: your So I'm wearing my new Balance shoes My snake

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Speaker 1: is from New Balance, which I absolutely love. And I

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Speaker 1: think I've been wearing New Balance shoes going back to jeez,

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Speaker 1: got to be at least nineteen eighty, so it's been

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Speaker 1: a fixture on my feet other than when I have

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Speaker 1: to get into a dress up pair of shoes. Well

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Speaker 1: they're pretty snassy, I gotta say, I take out it

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Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, so check these out. These are new.

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Speaker 1: I just got them there out of the box. These

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Speaker 1: are Nova sneaker mocks made by the MARYL Company. Oh

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Speaker 1: cool Nova. Yeah. I think of Meryl, and I don't

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Speaker 1: usually think of something that looks as comfortable and casual

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Speaker 1: as those. That's terrific. So we can say Maryl as

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Speaker 1: much as we want because maybe someone from Merrill will

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Speaker 1: hear this. You never, it'll be the first charter advertisement

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Speaker 1: for Taking a Walk series. So I like the way

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Speaker 1: you think it's always about commerce, right shoe, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's gotta pay the bills, you know. Electricity is expensive

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Speaker 1: these days, even though they say charity begins at home.

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Speaker 1: But no anyway, So let's paint the picture here where

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Speaker 1: we're taking a walk. This is a beautiful area. The

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Speaker 1: of different spots, like in Boston. I took a walk

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Speaker 1: I think you probably remember Wally Bryant from Wally Shows, right,

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Speaker 1: A legend, a legend, and we just had a blast

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Speaker 1: so paint the picture where we're taking a walk here.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting because back in my days of being

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Speaker 1: to do something called Monday Morning Quarterback, sure, from time

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Speaker 1: to time I would mention my beloved situate and how

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Speaker 1: We don't want it to be overrun by tourists. But

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Speaker 1: It's grown from a place that was mostly a summer

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Speaker 1: Absolutely very very grateful for that. So the reconnection that

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Speaker 1: tell me how you first met Steve. Obviously he's this,

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Speaker 1: How did you guys first meet? I met Steve Sweeney

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Speaker 1: Steve helped me then, and we've been fast friends ever

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Speaker 1: since then. He is he's a brilliant mind when it

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Speaker 1: over at ZLX. Yeah, Steve and I did a show

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Speaker 1: What a legend. And what's so amazing about Charles is

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Speaker 1: And I just adore the guy and I'm very grateful

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Speaker 1: for the time that I had with him. How did

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Speaker 1: Of course, he made the famous statement about Reagan that

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Speaker 1: You know that he was a lottery winner. This Joe Malone,

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