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Speaker 1: hours if you would like. When the Jets let up
Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown of the Raiders, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of us who thought they did it on purpose.
Speaker 1: Four point lead, seconds to go, Oakland had the ball
Speaker 1: near midfield, and of course Jets defensive coordinator Greg Williams
Speaker 1: calling it all outlets, Derek carl Off to the ball
Speaker 1: to Henry Ruggs the rookie, the Jets fault, and twelve
Speaker 1: jokes ensued. I don't know if the Jets were trying
Speaker 1: to lose on purpose to help their draft position, but
Speaker 1: if they were doing it, they didn't do a very
Speaker 1: good job because they really should have won this game.
Speaker 1: And Greg Williams loves to be aggressive. He does it
Speaker 1: all the time. Maybe it's a rare stroke of good
Speaker 1: luck for the franchise because I kept thinking, now, the
Speaker 1: Jets are going to screw this up. Wait, the Jags
Speaker 1: are going to screw this up. And then both teams
Speaker 1: ended up losing, So now the Jets are on track
Speaker 1: to draft Trevor Lawrence. I wonder if Trevor Lawrence is
Speaker 1: watching the Jets play. He probably wouldn't admit that he
Speaker 1: was watching, or that he's watching Jacksonville. I don't know
Speaker 1: who his favorite team is, but I wonder if somebody
Speaker 1: says to Trevor Lawrence, Jets blew it? What? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: allowed the Raiders to win. Someday Jets fans are going
Speaker 1: to look back at yesterday's loss. Is the one that
Speaker 1: propelled the franchise into an era of unprecedented success, right
Speaker 1: or at least if I'm a Jets fan. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying today, that we lost, but we're going to
Speaker 1: win because we're going to get Trevor Lawrence. We'll have
Speaker 1: a poll question for you, Play of the day, stat
Speaker 1: of the day, and if you'd like to be part
Speaker 1: of the program, you can, as we always do every Monday,
Speaker 1: Best and Worse to the weekend Operator Marvin is standing
Speaker 1: by eight seven seven three DP show yes time. Are
Speaker 1: you somehow so flattered if you're Trevor Lawrence that they
Speaker 1: find all these ways to blow it? Especially the way
Speaker 1: it went down yesterday, It's like, Wow, they really want me.
Speaker 1: This is the place for me. I don't think Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence is going The Jets tried to lose that game.
Speaker 1: And as much as we want to blame Greg Williams, hey,
Speaker 1: he's a very aggressive defensive coordinator. He loves to do
Speaker 1: this and all out blitz. I have to put some
Speaker 1: blame on these defensive backs. Let's say my defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: says all out blitz. Okay, I have an undrafted rookie.
Speaker 1: I think his name's Lamar Jackson, and he's supposed to
Speaker 1: be covering Henry Ruggs, who is probably one of the
Speaker 1: top five fastest players in the sport. It's a double move,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't bite on the first move.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he's going to go out of bounds. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to use the out of bounds as a weapon,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to play as deep as possible, no
Speaker 1: matter what my defensive coordinator calls. As a grown ass
Speaker 1: man playing defense in the NFL, I have to say
Speaker 1: the following, how do we lose this game? Somebody gets
Speaker 1: behind me and that's what happened. Why I have an
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie single coverage on Henry Ruggs. We can argue
Speaker 1: or discuss that, but these defensive backs have to know,
Speaker 1: what's the only way we can lose If somebody gets
Speaker 1: behind us. And they made it look easy and it
Speaker 1: wasn't just one defensive back. They were all up like
Speaker 1: twenty yards. You know, they're in the red zone. They
Speaker 1: weren't in the end zone. Hey, we can put pressure
Speaker 1: on Derek Carr. Okay, but at some point those defensive
Speaker 1: backs have to know we have to play deep here.
Speaker 1: We can't let somebody get behind us. And as much
Speaker 1: as I can blame Greg Williams for calling the all outblits,
Speaker 1: I also have to say to whoever is the secondary coach, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: all outlets. Don't let anybody get behind us. But the Jets,
Speaker 1: as only the Jets can do it, lost another one.
Speaker 1: Jags went into overtime against Minnesota Bay almost screwed up
Speaker 1: their season as well. Yeah, Paully yesterday. As an organization,
Speaker 1: it's like when a running back takes a knee at
Speaker 1: the five to help his team win. The Jets did
Speaker 1: that yesterday to help themselves long term, whether consciously or subconsciously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they did that on purpose. I
Speaker 1: don't think Greg Williams goes. I mean, Greg Williams looks
Speaker 1: bad today. Greg Williams is going to be out of
Speaker 1: a job. That's not one of those where you go, hey,
Speaker 1: let's make sure that we beat the Raiders, Like if
Speaker 1: you're trying to hold onto your job, Sam Darnold, you
Speaker 1: want to play well, which he did. He had a
Speaker 1: pretty good game there. Greg Williams, are you going to
Speaker 1: get another job? You're the defensive coordinator of the worst
Speaker 1: team in pro football right now, Adam Gaze, offensive minded genius,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get another job, not as a head coach.
Speaker 1: I don't believe for a second that Greg Williams goes, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: how do we lose this game? Oh? You know all
Speaker 1: outlets and I have single coverage on Henry Ruggs, and hey,
Speaker 1: bite on the first move. It'll be a double move,
Speaker 1: but bite on it. I don't believe that for a second.
Speaker 1: I think it was just an aggressive play call, not
Speaker 1: a smart play call, and you didn't give your secondary
Speaker 1: the heads up or remind them. Whatever happens, Whatever happens,
Speaker 1: nobody gets behind you. Yes, McLevin, you know his name
Speaker 1: was Lamar Jackson. You were right. I think that's a
Speaker 1: lot to ask of a guy who's also quarterbacking the
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Speaker 1: What else do you have? McLevin? So, I put up
Speaker 1: the poll. Do you think the Jets lost on purpose?
Speaker 1: Just to see what people say? I just put up
Speaker 1: on Dan patrick dot com. But here's the other question.
Speaker 1: Was it a good day for the Jets? Yes? I
Speaker 1: mean Greg Williams isn't going to be there, Adam Gaze
Speaker 1: isn't going to be there. Sam Darnold's probably not going
Speaker 1: to be there. And you want to you want to
Speaker 1: clean sweep here. Let's just be bad, get it all out,
Speaker 1: and you know, you just you have to purge here.
Speaker 1: We're bad. We showed it. We showed it again. We
Speaker 1: showed it a variety of ways. Offensively, defensively, special teams, coaching,
Speaker 1: head coach, defensive coordinator, quarterback play. We're done with all
Speaker 1: of this. Let's just go, you know, into the offseason,
Speaker 1: and then we get Trevor Lawrence and then let's try
Speaker 1: to build a team on a rookie contract at the
Speaker 1: quarterbacking position. So I would say, yes, it is because
Speaker 1: if you say I get Trevor Lawrence, even though I
Speaker 1: got embarrassed, if I'm a Jets fan, I still have
Speaker 1: to look at the prize at the end of all
Speaker 1: of this and that there will be a true prize.
Speaker 1: You could have the number one overall pick. Imagine if
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence wasn't in this draft. It's like the NBA
Speaker 1: Draft this past year with Minnesota. There was no Zion Williamson.
Speaker 1: Minnesota didn't want the number one pick. There was nobody
Speaker 1: to take, and if Justin Fields is the reward, then
Speaker 1: you can go is this worth it to go winless
Speaker 1: this season? Yeah? Poey. What a weird position for Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold because obviously he knows what the future is for
Speaker 1: him in New York. But if he plays well, which
Speaker 1: he's a competitor he wants to play well, he's basically
Speaker 1: selling himself to other franchises. But if he pulls a
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and wins the couple in a row, he
Speaker 1: may have to stay with the Jets because if they
Speaker 1: had the fourth pick, they may not be able to
Speaker 1: get a quarterback. Well, this is what I was told
Speaker 1: over the weekend because I wondered if Sam Darnold, if
Speaker 1: they get Trevor Lawrence's Sam Darnold stay And I was told,
Speaker 1: don't be surprised if Sam Darnold would stay one more
Speaker 1: year if Trevor Lawrence is drafted number one overall by
Speaker 1: the Jets. Also, you got a quarterbacking situation with Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I'd said prior to the game yesterday, I would sit
Speaker 1: down Carson Wentz just for his peace of mind, his
Speaker 1: state of mind, his confidence level, whatever it is. And
Speaker 1: if you want to put Jalen Hurts in there, how
Speaker 1: about you find out what you have with Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: and then then you can decide in the offseason if
Speaker 1: the Colts are interested in trading for Carson Wentz. And
Speaker 1: the reason why I say that is Frank Reich is
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Colts. He was the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator when the Eagles went to the Super Bowl when
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz had his best season. That's my only hope
Speaker 1: here because if I cut him, it's a sixty million
Speaker 1: dollar cap hit. If I cut him the following your
Speaker 1: it's a forty million dollars cap hit. You can't get
Speaker 1: rid of him unless you trade him if you think
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has what it takes to be a good
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. And at times he showed he
Speaker 1: was fun yesterday. But I got to find out what's
Speaker 1: going on here. If I'm Philadelphia, is Doug Peterson back,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz back with the Colts be interested in Carson Wentz?
Speaker 1: Those are questions that loom heavily over this organization. But
Speaker 1: what Jalen Hurts did yet, Like quietly, I don't know
Speaker 1: what game Tony Romo was watching, because it felt like
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was leading a comeback, like wasn't it twenty
Speaker 1: three to sixteen? And then you know you had the
Speaker 1: long run. But I thought, I mean, Philadelphia is in
Speaker 1: this game like they were. Tony was praising, you know,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and you know, okay, this isn't a blowout here.
Speaker 1: This is still a real game there. And I thought
Speaker 1: Hurts did a pretty good job. You know, no offseason,
Speaker 1: you know, no preseason, and he goes in there with
Speaker 1: every you know, dead have good offensive weapons there, the
Speaker 1: offensive line. I mean, he manufactured something yesterday. And if
Speaker 1: I'm Philadelphia, if I'm Doug Peterson, I'm putting him back
Speaker 1: in there. It's the Eagles against the Saints, and who
Speaker 1: would have thought this late in the season Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: would be opposite Jalen Hurts. But that's what it looks
Speaker 1: like here. Taysom Hill played again. Yes, Saints fans, I
Speaker 1: am reminded that Taysom Hill had some good passing stats. Yes, congratulations.
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill has played well better, you know against Atlanta,
Speaker 1: And look, I thought Atlanta was going to win that game.
Speaker 1: And Atlanta's defense is pretty good. But Taysom Hill performed
Speaker 1: admirably there. Absolutely. Let me say a couple of other
Speaker 1: things here my Giants surprise surprise, of all of the
Speaker 1: games this year, that might be the one game that
Speaker 1: stands out. Where you go, what Seattle needing a win,
Speaker 1: the Giants going across country with Colt McCoy as your quarterback,
Speaker 1: and that Giant's defense is good and Russell Wilson Junior
Speaker 1: the third is no longer an MVP candidate. Tonight, Washington
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, the Buffalo Bills against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to some college football. LSU should be ashamed.
Speaker 1: They lost by thirty seven to Auburn thirty eight to Alabama.
Speaker 1: They should be ashamed embarrassed because I kept watching the
Speaker 1: game thinking, how did LSU go from one of the
Speaker 1: great offenses I've ever seen to absolutely positively nothing in
Speaker 1: Alabama blows them out Ohio State with a big win,
Speaker 1: but is it really a big win. It feels like
Speaker 1: they're going to manufacture massage the rules that if the
Speaker 1: Michigan doesn't play this week against Ohio State, that somehow
Speaker 1: they're going to have an addendum a clause to the
Speaker 1: Big Ten playing in the title game. But right now,
Speaker 1: and I got two sources on this, it's quiet in
Speaker 1: ann Arbor, Michigan. Quiet in ann Arbor, Michigan. But you
Speaker 1: start to look at Ohio State's resume. It's not great.
Speaker 1: They can only play who's in front of them. But
Speaker 1: has been a down down year for the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina and BYU best game of the weekend. As
Speaker 1: our good friend Pat Forty pointed out, it was a
Speaker 1: Tinder date. It was a Tinder college football game, like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to play? Yeah, swipe right, they will
Speaker 1: play you and then they'll play at Coastal Carolina. I
Speaker 1: thought it was wonderful. I don't want to hear any
Speaker 1: more of this. Well, where you got a fifteen years
Speaker 1: ahead with our schedule, we don't have any room for
Speaker 1: anybody here. Coastal Carolina BYU playing one another, and Coastal
Speaker 1: Carolina took it to BYU. They were far more physical.
Speaker 1: They were the better team. Indiana with a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: against Wisconsin in Wisconsin, Notre Dame Roles, Clemson roles, and
Speaker 1: of course Alabama does as well. Yess McLellan. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the eye test, I watched the
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan State game. I've seen much better high
Speaker 1: school games. I mean like there were thirty people missing
Speaker 1: for both teams or something. They couldn't complete a shotgun snap,
Speaker 1: like a simple shotgun stap. The quality of football was
Speaker 1: shockingly low to me. Does that matter to them or
Speaker 1: is everybody expected to be down now? Well, I think
Speaker 1: that the playoff selection committee would look at that. That
Speaker 1: Ohio State I was told was getting that game in.
Speaker 1: No matter who played, they were getting that game in.
Speaker 1: They just wanted to get that game in so then
Speaker 1: they could face Michigan and they hope Michigan is able
Speaker 1: to play. And now the Big Ten has come out
Speaker 1: and said, hey, maybe you don't have to have six
Speaker 1: six games, six wins to play in the Big Ten
Speaker 1: title game. They're going to do everything they possibly can
Speaker 1: to get Ohio State in there because they want that
Speaker 1: team as a true representation of the Big Ten to
Speaker 1: play for the national championship. Everybody in the Big Ten
Speaker 1: benefits if Ohio State is in there. As much as
Speaker 1: I love what Indiana has done, Northwestern has been a
Speaker 1: good story, Michigan State's not any good. They look like
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan, not Michigan State. Wisconsin losing at home to
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in Indiana. Penn State and Michigan aren't
Speaker 1: going to have winning records. I mean that you can't
Speaker 1: look at Ohio States resume and go, yep, they're great
Speaker 1: or very good. Talent wise, yes they are, But as
Speaker 1: far as what the resume says, no, not at all.
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Speaker 1: Eagles head coach Doug Peterson has a weekly appearance on
Speaker 1: WIP in Philadelphia. Says he hasn't decided who will start
Speaker 1: versus the Saints. I get the sneaky suspicion it'll be
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts versus Taysom Hill. That's the direction I would take.
Speaker 1: Let me find out what I have here. If I'm
Speaker 1: going to entertain a trade offer for Carson Wentz and
Speaker 1: maybe the Colts would go, yeah, we'll take him and
Speaker 1: reunite him with Frank Reich, then let me see what
Speaker 1: I have in Jalen Hurts. Now there's another way to
Speaker 1: look at this. I might go, Can I get Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz to a point where he can salvage the season
Speaker 1: as far as how people look at him, Does he
Speaker 1: look like he's his starting quarterback? Is he worth this
Speaker 1: kind of money? But Philadelphia can't cut him? And I
Speaker 1: want to see a little bit more from Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: right now, and I would play Jalen Hurts, yes, PAULI,
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about something. I've been saving this,
Speaker 1: but I think I'm ready to do a full debunking here.
Speaker 1: Would it be fair to say that the Jets in
Speaker 1: a loss had a good day as a franchise esday?
Speaker 1: Would that be fair to say? Yes? Okay, then that
Speaker 1: would debunk one of the great quotes in NFL analyst
Speaker 1: history by Trent Dilford. Remember this, you cannot lose games
Speaker 1: in the NFL and still win debunked. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Wow, blown,
Speaker 1: mind blow. Okay. In fairness to Trent Dilford, we've never
Speaker 1: had him on to explain that. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he was even asked about that on the mother Ship
Speaker 1: when he said that quote doesn't need explanation. It stands
Speaker 1: Jackson still clueless. Oh Tom Jackson's looking at him like,
Speaker 1: what did you just say? You cannot lose games in
Speaker 1: the NFL and still win? Well, the Jets disproved that
Speaker 1: because they lost the game. But I still think they won.
Speaker 1: Because if you say I got to go through this
Speaker 1: embarrassment and I get Trevor Lawrence, I'll take the embarrassment
Speaker 1: of this year. If I get five at least five
Speaker 1: years of Trevor Lawrence, yeah, I'll take that. Ross Tucker
Speaker 1: former NFL lineman and Ross Tucker Football podcast also working
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Speaker 1: Army Navy next weekend? You got a game this week?
Speaker 1: Do you got Pittsburgh? What game do you have this week?
Speaker 1: So I've got Dan, I've got Tomorrow night Cowboys Ravens
Speaker 1: for Westwood One, then Army Navy, then Sunday I'll do
Speaker 1: Bills and the Steelers. So, and I know you pay
Speaker 1: attention to this stuff, Dan, that means I will have
Speaker 1: called games this year either NFL or FBS Division One
Speaker 1: football Monday afternoon, Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1: So the only thing I'm missing for setting, I believe
Speaker 1: in all time NFL Division One Football analysts record is
Speaker 1: Friday Night. So somehow in the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out a way you get a Friday
Speaker 1: night game in no, just do a high school game.
Speaker 1: You know. The irony is I do this Pennsylvania State
Speaker 1: championship games every year, but because of the COVID pandemic,
Speaker 1: they were Thanksgiving weekend, which is when I was doing
Speaker 1: the University of Buffalo game where Jared Patterson was one
Speaker 1: carry away Dan from breaking the all time rushing record
Speaker 1: and touchdown records. And I don't know if you saw,
Speaker 1: but I did not take it overly well when he
Speaker 1: was pulled from the game. He is a Ross Tucker
Speaker 1: joining us on the program. All right, now, just give
Speaker 1: me the defensive philosophy of Greg Williams, Like, what is
Speaker 1: he thinking in this moment as to why this is
Speaker 1: going to work given putting pressure on Derek Carr and
Speaker 1: leaving his secondary exposed and in the situation when Henry
Speaker 1: Ruggs man on man covered. Yeah, so I don't think
Speaker 1: it's necessarily the smartest move, but I will tell you, Dan,
Speaker 1: this is who he is. I mean, he almost always
Speaker 1: is going to be more aggressive than the situation would
Speaker 1: typically call for. I played him in Buffalo in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, Washington in two thousand and seven when
Speaker 1: he was a defensive coordinator. This is kind of who
Speaker 1: he is. The thought process, by the way, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that's right. The thought process is if you come
Speaker 1: with a zero blitz, right, that means you're bringing one
Speaker 1: more guy than the offense has the block. The quarterback
Speaker 1: has to get rid of the ball before he can
Speaker 1: throw it deep. And all you need to do is
Speaker 1: have your defensive backs or a man a man coverage
Speaker 1: play off coverage. So if they're playing off, they're given
Speaker 1: a ten yard cushion. Quarterback needs to get rid of it.
Speaker 1: He's got to throw it underneath or get rid of
Speaker 1: it quickly. You come up and you make the tackle. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the Jets undrafted free agent corner Lamar Jackson didn't really
Speaker 1: get the memo and he fall. He fell for a
Speaker 1: double move, a stutter and go, which you cannot do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't do that. So I know a
Speaker 1: lot of blames going to Greg Williams, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: But if you're Lamar Jackson in that situation and there
Speaker 1: is no double move, buddy, Just you play back, you
Speaker 1: let him catch it in front of you, and then
Speaker 1: you tackle him. That's what I didn't understand. Okay, Greg
Speaker 1: Williams puts pressure on the quarterback. But Greg Williams, as
Speaker 1: much as we can say, well, that's who he is.
Speaker 1: I got to take care of my secondary that's going
Speaker 1: to be exposed. And I got a rookie on Henry Rugs,
Speaker 1: who's one of the top five fastest players in the game,
Speaker 1: and he bites on a double move. Like, if I
Speaker 1: gather that defensive my secondary, I say, guys, everything's in
Speaker 1: front of you, everything's in front of you. We're gonna
Speaker 1: blitz everything's in front of you. Make them catch the
Speaker 1: ball in the middle of the field. That's it. And
Speaker 1: then if you want to send six guys, okay, But
Speaker 1: I just I don't. That's what I don't understand. I
Speaker 1: would fire Greg Williams for not telling his secondary don't
Speaker 1: let anybody get behind you. Well, I don't know, how
Speaker 1: do we know that he didn't tell him that, But
Speaker 1: ultimately I would say that it's his responsibility, you know,
Speaker 1: like whether Lamar Jackson and not the quarterback Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: the Jets d b Lamar Jackson, what you know? No
Speaker 1: matter whether he knew the situation or not, it's ultimately
Speaker 1: the coach's job to make sure that your young player
Speaker 1: does not make that mistake. I mean, but that's the
Speaker 1: thing coaches I think sometimes take situational awareness for granted, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy knows playoff, you don't. You don't get beat
Speaker 1: on a double move a stud or go. I mean,
Speaker 1: I still can't believe it happened. I'd like to think
Speaker 1: that all the dan Nettes you med, we would have
Speaker 1: been like twenty yards off, Okay, catch it underneath, will
Speaker 1: come and tackle you. But Lamar Jackson, he got the
Speaker 1: distance closed on him, he fell for it, and he
Speaker 1: got beat very, very badly. Was yesterday a good day
Speaker 1: for the Jets? Absolutely? Okay, yesterday was a great day
Speaker 1: for the Jets because it showed some promise without losing
Speaker 1: the ability at the number one overall pick. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, I haven't had that much fun in a
Speaker 1: while in watching the red zone the end of the
Speaker 1: one o'clock games, and look, there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: great games, the Lions Bears ending, the Textans fumble against
Speaker 1: the Colts, but just watching the Jags and the Jets
Speaker 1: and the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes drama. And what makes it
Speaker 1: so amazing to me is Adam gaseon Doug Marone. They
Speaker 1: know they're gone, they know they're getting fired after the year,
Speaker 1: so they have no incentive to feather the nest for
Speaker 1: the next head coach, Like what, how does it help
Speaker 1: them if the next head coach gets the number one
Speaker 1: pick against Trevor Lawrence and has success there. So these
Speaker 1: guys are out there trying to win a game to
Speaker 1: screw over the next head coach. You're gonna take over
Speaker 1: for that after the season. It's amazing. Well, Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: probably trying to sabotage this as well, because if they
Speaker 1: win a couple of games, all of a sudden, they
Speaker 1: go all right, maybe we don't need a quarterback. Here.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Ross Tucker, the former NFL offensive lineman
Speaker 1: his podcast Ross Tucker Football Podcast. What would you do
Speaker 1: if you're Doug Peterson at the quarterbacking position? I would
Speaker 1: go with Jalen Hurts. And I would go with Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts for a couple of reasons. Number One, he actually
Speaker 1: showed a spark, he made some good throws. They moved
Speaker 1: the ball on a couple drives in a row, including
Speaker 1: the touchdown drive. And not only that, Dan, it's been
Speaker 1: painful to watch Carson Wentz. Painful. And I say that
Speaker 1: from a couple of different standpoints. Number One, he was
Speaker 1: so good in twenty seventeen. He was even so good
Speaker 1: the end of the year last year when he led
Speaker 1: them on that run to win the division with a
Speaker 1: bunch of practice squad guys. To watch what he's become
Speaker 1: this year. It's not quite that bad, Dan, but it's
Speaker 1: almost like when a baseball player has the yips, like
Speaker 1: he just won't pull the trigger. He is looking at
Speaker 1: the rush, he's looking down. He just he needs to
Speaker 1: be rebooted mentally, And so I start Hurts. If Hurts
Speaker 1: plays great, awesome, play him the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: If Hurts is terrible, then maybe you consider the week
Speaker 1: after putting Wentz back in. But they got to do
Speaker 1: something to try to reset, unplug whatever you want to
Speaker 1: say with Wentz, because he is I've never say anything
Speaker 1: like this a quarterback deteriorate their performance this bad. And
Speaker 1: he's such a good young man. He just became a
Speaker 1: new debt it's honestly like painful to it. I watch
Speaker 1: every snap I do Eagles pregame in preseason TV. It's
Speaker 1: painful to watch when you know how good of a
Speaker 1: kid he is, and how much he wants it to
Speaker 1: see how badly he's playing, and how much he says
Speaker 1: he hasn't lost his confidence. He refuses to pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: I mean, he takes sacks that you just can't take.
Speaker 1: Explain to me the Chiefs, they might be the best
Speaker 1: team in football, but they certainly have a knack, a
Speaker 1: bad habit of keeping everybody that they're playing in the game.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, Dan, you don't you don't check Twitter enough.
Speaker 1: Chiefs are clearly the best team in the history of
Speaker 1: the Galaxy. They're gonna win every playoff game by twenty
Speaker 1: They're way better than the Steelers. It's you know, it
Speaker 1: really is emblematic of our society. We all know Mahomes
Speaker 1: is great, and Tyreek kill and Travis Kelsey look and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are great and they might win it again.
Speaker 1: But there's this narrative out there that the Steelers quote
Speaker 1: unquote aren't really good because they haven't looked that impressive
Speaker 1: in some of their wins Meanwhile, Hell, you know, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs just barely beat the Broncos. The week before that,
Speaker 1: they beat the Bucks by three, week before that, Raiders
Speaker 1: by four, Nick Reigy. The week before that they beat
Speaker 1: the Panthers. The Panthers by two. Like, there's this thought
Speaker 1: process out there that the Chiefs are some unbeatable team.
Speaker 1: It's just not based in reality. I think that Chief
Speaker 1: Steelers game will be awesome. I hope it happens. But
Speaker 1: this idea that the Chiefs are like twenty points better,
Speaker 1: it's just not found in any sort of reality. Are
Speaker 1: the Browns good or very good? That's a great question.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say good. I think the Chiefs and Steelers
Speaker 1: are very good. I think the Browns and Bills are good.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I can't go very good with the
Speaker 1: Browns or the Bills. I will say this, though, I
Speaker 1: love what the Browns did yesterday. My favorite thing is
Speaker 1: when teams shatter the lazy narrative about him. Like last week,
Speaker 1: Dan I tweeted that Kevin Stefanski should be in the
Speaker 1: running for Coach of the Year because he has the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns at eight and three, and you know who
Speaker 1: replied to me some guy named mclovin Andrew Perlof and said, yeah,
Speaker 1: but who have they played? Who have they played? You
Speaker 1: know who they played? Mclovin. They've now played twelve NFL teams.
Speaker 1: They've won nine of the games, including beating the brains
Speaker 1: off the Titans. They beat the Colts. This whole schedule
Speaker 1: thing with the Browns. They're the Browns. It's that we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Cleveland Browns and they're nine and three,
Speaker 1: and you've got back row bumbling whatever is like mclovin saying, well,
Speaker 1: who have they played? Though? Who have they even played?
Speaker 1: I'm still mad at him about that. Yeah, but why
Speaker 1: do you let it bother you? It's mclovin, like, you're
Speaker 1: better than that. I know you're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: I just I like getting fired up. I missed you guys.
Speaker 1: I haven't been up there in a while. And so
Speaker 1: when mclovin and then everybody's like, yeah, who have they played? Oh?
Speaker 1: It helps when you play the NFC's this whole like,
Speaker 1: this isn't college football, Like you play who's on your
Speaker 1: NFL schedule? And they beat nine NFL teams? All right?
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me let mclovin, this is
Speaker 1: IVY League on IVY League crime. Yeah, mclev I mean Ross, honestly,
Speaker 1: I follow you for the press box food recommendations. I
Speaker 1: just saw it actual football tweets, so I felt like
Speaker 1: the need to respond instead of the fact that they
Speaker 1: had chicken marsala at the Colorado State press room. So
Speaker 1: I was so taken aback by this. You know, mclovin,
Speaker 1: you mock what you don't understand. Okay, those press box
Speaker 1: food videos get terrific engagement. People love it, and maybe
Speaker 1: if you're ever actually in a press box you would
Speaker 1: be able to enjoy. How delicious And by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm also Matt got you get meat Friday, mclove and
Speaker 1: you can just be quiet with the meat Friday Traeger
Speaker 1: grills so good. I saw what Alan put out for
Speaker 1: you guys Friday. I wanted to kill somebody. I want
Speaker 1: to eat that so bad? Was Dartmouth your safe school?
Speaker 1: Didn't really consider it. I was only looking at like
Speaker 1: real IVY League schools like Harvard, Yale and Princeton. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go IVY League, Dan, why would you
Speaker 1: go to like a second rate, second tier one You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I agree, And that's why Harvard,
Speaker 1: Yale or Princeton, That's why I didn't go because it
Speaker 1: was just the secondary IVY League schools. I didn't get
Speaker 1: the elite ones. I'll leave you with this, Washington at Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: Buffalo and San Francisco. Any surprises? Do you see an upset?
Speaker 1: Can Washington meet the Steelers? Yeah? I think they can.
Speaker 1: I don't think they will, But I actually think both
Speaker 1: these games are gonna be awesome football games today because
Speaker 1: the Steelers are coming in this one. They're limping a
Speaker 1: little bit. No James Conner. They just played Wednesday. Washington's
Speaker 1: playing better. Washington hasn't played in eleven days. Pittsburgh played
Speaker 1: five days ago. I think Washington has a real chance
Speaker 1: to win this game. And then I think tonight Bill's
Speaker 1: Niners from Arizona will be very entry. We got a
Speaker 1: great Monday on tap. Did you ever have a good
Speaker 1: experience when you played in Washington? Yes? I did, because
Speaker 1: we were oh and five my rookie year, and then
Speaker 1: we won our next five and Marty Schotenheimer, I think
Speaker 1: I had nine head coaches dan in seven years. Do
Speaker 1: the math on that one. Marty Schottenheimer was awesome. I
Speaker 1: love that guy. I love that team. We won five
Speaker 1: in a row after we started out oh and five,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was actually a great experience and Washington
Speaker 1: would have been so far ahead of things. But then
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder fired him him after one year because Marty
Speaker 1: wouldn't let Daniel Snyder make the decisions with the front office,
Speaker 1: so he got fired after one year. Brought in Spurrier,
Speaker 1: easily the worst coach I ever had, so arguably the
Speaker 1: best coach I ever had to the worst just because
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder wanted to call the shots. It's really a shame.
Speaker 1: Didn't put the time in, didn't understand protections at the
Speaker 1: NFL level. We had two protect I mean I remember playing.
Speaker 1: I started every preseason game for him and O two.
Speaker 1: We had two protections, Dan, and there were no hot reads,
Speaker 1: no sight adjusts, So you're just supposed to audible to
Speaker 1: the other protection or to a different play based on
Speaker 1: what the defense is showing. Well, in the NFL, if
Speaker 1: they show the guys are coming from the left, they're
Speaker 1: coming from the right. I mean, it was I could,
Speaker 1: I mean, I could do a whole segment on Spurrier
Speaker 1: He was not a good coach, but we kind of
Speaker 1: liked him because if it rained, we wouldn't have practice.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to stand in the rain, so we
Speaker 1: used to root for rain just so we didn't have
Speaker 1: to practice that day. Did he know your name because
Speaker 1: he famously did not know the names of his players,
Speaker 1: especially on defense. Oh no, he knew my name because
Speaker 1: one time in a team meeting, I got pushed back
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. I gave up like four yards to
Speaker 1: Casey Hampton, and in them team meeting, Spurrier said, Hey, Tucker,
Speaker 1: uh uh, these are like those guys from Yale or Brown.
Speaker 1: These guys made business up here. You're getting pushed back. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Dan Casey Hampton's like the strongest dude in the history
Speaker 1: of the world. I was actually pretty happy that I
Speaker 1: only gave up four yards to push on the play.
Speaker 1: But every everybody, all the guys are dying laughing, and
Speaker 1: I just I was kind of over the Ivy League
Speaker 1: thing at that point, so I didn't I didn't take
Speaker 1: it very well. And he came up to me at
Speaker 1: the practice is like, you're mad at me. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you, but like it's my second year. Now,
Speaker 1: can we get past the Ivy League thing? Like I'm
Speaker 1: here now? Like so anyway, the poor guy being held
Speaker 1: back by going to Princeton, Man, I really feel bad
Speaker 1: for you. It's uh, it's something I've had to try
Speaker 1: to overcome my entire professional career. It's always great to
Speaker 1: talk to you. Safe travels there, buddy. We appreciate it
Speaker 1: as always. Thank you, Ross all right, see Dud Rosstucker
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Speaker 1: the Jets lost on purpose? Fifty eight percent say no.
Speaker 1: That means forty two pick they did is there any
Speaker 1: chance I know you made a logical argument that that's
Speaker 1: what Greg Williams does. Is there any chance did something happen?
Speaker 1: I don't know if ownership minds that they lost Adam Gayson,
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. They want to win because they won't be
Speaker 1: there next year. Sam Darnold wants to win. But I
Speaker 1: think if I'm ownership, it's one of those where publicly
Speaker 1: you're like, what happened? I'm upset to privately going yes, yes,
Speaker 1: What other poll questions do you have? Okay, we have
Speaker 1: three games left this week. We have Buffalo, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: Washington's Pittsburgh, and Dallas at the Ravens. Which is the
Speaker 1: game you want to watch the most? You can only
Speaker 1: watch one. I want to watch Dallas in the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of curious what is going on with
Speaker 1: Baltimore here, and I'm not quite sure they may not
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and I want to know where Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is that this is when you want an MVP
Speaker 1: to act like an MVP. Granted it's a whole lot
Speaker 1: different than last year, but I'm just curious about what
Speaker 1: we have here and then Dallas can Dallas kind of
Speaker 1: get revitalized here because you start to look around the
Speaker 1: NFC East, as bad as it is. You know, Washington
Speaker 1: is not a bad team. The Giants are obviously not
Speaker 1: a bad team. Where does Dallas stand here? Philadelphia feels
Speaker 1: like a mess. We know Dallas has had the injury
Speaker 1: to Dak Prescott, but they do have a nucleus that's
Speaker 1: still there. Intact, Dallas should be the best team in
Speaker 1: the division even without Dak Prescott. But I'm curious of
Speaker 1: who they are and are they able to show something
Speaker 1: with this game? Yeah, Paul, I'm really curious about Alex
Speaker 1: Smith to night. I know he's going against a real
Speaker 1: tough defense and this is a real test. And like
Speaker 1: you said, Washington's not that bad. But National TV the
Speaker 1: Alex Smith story for them, anyone who hasn't seen it yet,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get it tonight. Any other pull options that
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Yeah, by the way, all you want to
Speaker 1: make this you want to make this case right now?
Speaker 1: Do you want to make the argument for MVP? Well,
Speaker 1: I this is my least favorite topic. In the end,
Speaker 1: I know it's week to week, almost day to day.
Speaker 1: Who's the MVP? Do you know that I don't know
Speaker 1: the website. If I did, I'd call him out. Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield MVP candidate question Mark and I went, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. The website is we're here to bother Dan
Speaker 1: doc No no no, no, no no no, don't do that.
Speaker 1: You're doing it for clicks. Baker Mayfield played extremely well
Speaker 1: yesterday in the first half, and I hope that they
Speaker 1: continue to play that way. They should play that way.
Speaker 1: They're very good. I think they're good. They may not
Speaker 1: be very good, but I no, Baker Mayfield's not an
Speaker 1: MVP candidate. There's two MVP candidates, Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And Mahomes has five hundred more yards four hundred more
Speaker 1: yards passing than Rodgers. Rogers has five more touchdowns, two
Speaker 1: more interceptions. Completion percentage is just about this, say you know,
Speaker 1: then you go, okay, what is your argument? If I
Speaker 1: take Rogers away from the Packers, how good are they?
Speaker 1: If I take Mahomes away from the Chiefs, how good
Speaker 1: are they? Like? It depends on how you defined most valuable,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it has to do is just statistically, like,
Speaker 1: how great are you? Statistically? Aaron Rodgers is doing everything
Speaker 1: that you would want him to do. And he's what
Speaker 1: ten and eleven years older than Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes has
Speaker 1: been great, quiet le great. Um. I will say, I'd
Speaker 1: love to see Aaron Rodgers in Kansas City's offense. I
Speaker 1: would love to see what that looks like because he
Speaker 1: makes it look easy in Green Bay's offense. You imagine
Speaker 1: him in Kansas City's offense. Yeah, boy, I have four
Speaker 1: dollars in my wallet for anyone who could tell me
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback for the Green Bay Packers on the
Speaker 1: Packers that chart. Um, you know what McLevin I think
Speaker 1: I do. We've talked about him and it sounds like
Speaker 1: the Ravens site and Nick Boyle. But it's not Nick
Speaker 1: Boyle though, isn't it. It's him Boyle out of Eastern Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Some of the greats have come out of Eastern Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of them. But Tim Boyle. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that has to do with the MVP race,
Speaker 1: but Tim boy is your backup quarterback there? Jeff and Detroit,
Speaker 1: let me get Jeff in here. Chris Simms will join
Speaker 1: its coming up next downer. What's going on up one
Speaker 1: time for chat Row on this beautiful Monday morning. Best
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend. The worst, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: off the man the Seahawks getting beat by the Giants
Speaker 1: and a defensive struggle that was an ugly game. The
Speaker 1: best is gonna be my Detroit Lions. And hold on,
Speaker 1: how about this, man, the defensive effort. You've made a
Speaker 1: defensiveproval and what happens the defense comes from with a
Speaker 1: striped sack and a fourth and one hole? Man, what
Speaker 1: you say about them? Baby? Come on, let's go Lions,
Speaker 1: by the way, by the way, thank you, Jeff. The
Speaker 1: Bears are frauds. Oh I heard from the Bears fins. Well,
Speaker 1: you're not including them when they were like five and one?
Speaker 1: What about the Bears? I said, the Bears aren't any good.
Speaker 1: They're frauds. And you've seen that Lions picking up a win.
Speaker 1: You know, these teams that are down double digits. This
Speaker 1: isn't a big deal anymore, certainly not this season in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Chris Sims will join us coming up in
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