WEBVTT - Jinx Da Juvy | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek

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<v Speaker 1>What up, y'all?

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<v Speaker 2>This your main man Memphis Bleak right here. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>Rock Solid, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what it is, man. Yours truly, M. Greasy.

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<v Speaker 2>Back with another exclusive episode of Rock Solid Podcast. And

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<v Speaker 2>this one right here is very special to me. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my man right here. We came up together. Same grind,

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<v Speaker 2>same time. writing rhymes, sitting on the bench in Marcy.

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<v Speaker 2>He coming through to see his peoples. But he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even from the projects. But to me, he from the projects.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in there more than niggas that was from

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<v Speaker 2>the projects. So let's welcome home and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the illest, Fucking spitters Out of Marcy Projects

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<v Speaker 2>Out of Brooklyn, New York Jinx the motherfucking Juvie.

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<v Speaker 3>My brother What's up, big dog? What's up, man? How

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<v Speaker 3>you been, man?

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<v Speaker 2>Long time, my G I appreciate it, man Long time

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<v Speaker 2>from sitting on the bench With this dream Yo, we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do this We gonna make it Before we get

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<v Speaker 2>into all the connects And who linked with who Right

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let you tell your story, though, man. What was

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<v Speaker 2>it like for you coming up in BK? You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Coming up in Brooklyn, I had no older brothers, none

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<v Speaker 3>of that. Just my moms and my two little sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you heard of Brooklyn or you from Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what that atmosphere is like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to make a lot of decisions to

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<v Speaker 3>basically protect myself and my sisters going to school, riding

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<v Speaker 3>the train or bus.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit was rough back then. I be trying to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. And it just grew inside of me as time.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything you do for a significant amount of time. it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a part of your character. And I took that

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<v Speaker 3>and navigated my way through. So yeah, it was rough.

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<v Speaker 3>It was crazy out there. You know how it is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>We was young and wild in them times, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I got shot six times, man, on four different occasions.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Once by police.

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<v Speaker 2>I already know. Man, let's get into that. Because before

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<v Speaker 2>we get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right. The rapping scene, usually I ask people.

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<v Speaker 2>When they fell in love with rap, but I know

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<v Speaker 2>we fell in love with rap around the same time

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<v Speaker 2>when we realized it could change our life and get

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<v Speaker 2>us up out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you link with Russell Simmons, though?

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<v Speaker 3>I linked with Russ after numerous things happened. That was

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<v Speaker 3>like the third or fourth thing that I wound up

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<v Speaker 3>getting next to Russell Simmons. First, I got with a

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<v Speaker 3>producer from East New York. Shout out to Jay Swift.

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<v Speaker 3>He came to the project.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember Jay Swift back in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I owe it to Jay.

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<v Speaker 4>Jay Swift came, he grabbed me. He took me to

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<v Speaker 4>Coogee Rap.

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<v Speaker 3>Coogee Rap took me around battling people.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to Rough Riders, different places I wanted them

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<v Speaker 3>to sign me. Remember you fucking with Rough Riders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to sign me first. Shout out to D &amp; Y.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, D &amp; Y the fam. Word. I was proud

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Word. So shout out to Kiss too, but um, After

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<v Speaker 3>I made the decision, or rather my mom made the

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<v Speaker 3>decision for me because I wanted to sign the Rough Riders,

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<v Speaker 3>I cried.

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<v Speaker 1>I was 15 years old.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't sign by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was like, you know, the best thing for

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<v Speaker 3>you to do is sign the Def Jam. It's more longevity.

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<v Speaker 3>So once on the label, I got shot when I

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<v Speaker 3>was 16 and Leo sent me to go visit Russell

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<v Speaker 3>so he could talk some sense into me. And from

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<v Speaker 3>that first day. We just link, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And y'all been like, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>See, that's how I might have forgot about the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning because I felt like ever since you

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<v Speaker 2>linked with Russ.

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<v Speaker 1>You was in that position. You was on, you was on,

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<v Speaker 1>you was in the fat farm, all the modeling ads.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, DJ you in the magazines.

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<v Speaker 1>Word up. You was doing all that shit, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was that like being in front of projects,

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<v Speaker 2>having those opportunities?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>When you young like we was, bro, you don't really

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<v Speaker 3>understand what position you in. Because one thing, as I

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<v Speaker 3>got older now, I knew what I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 3>before I knew who I was. See, and when those

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<v Speaker 3>lines cross, I didn't know what position I was in.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why dudes be like, yo, what's wrong with him?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't understand. It took experiences. It took time, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can honestly say like, you know how they

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<v Speaker 2>be like, yo, some kids fuck up their opportunity or

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<v Speaker 2>they blew it. Looking at you and thinking about back then,

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<v Speaker 2>like how we came up, you not having no older brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>you moving around because you was in East New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn, Brownsville, Brownsville. You was in the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>When they had hood to hood DVDs, he should have

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<v Speaker 2>been the star on them because you was in hood

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<v Speaker 2>to hood everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, trying to balance getting a career.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are the days when. you had to be

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<v Speaker 1>outside in order for this to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no social media, no just posting something. You had

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<v Speaker 3>to go get on the corner with the ciphers and

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<v Speaker 3>be present and really put your feet on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>And like, what advice would you give to any young

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<v Speaker 2>artists today that you think might be stuck in between that,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to juggle that balance of getting on and still

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<v Speaker 2>transforming from who they are and what they want to become?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say create harmony amongst you, amongst your circle.

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<v Speaker 4>Believe in yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Practice your craft and understand that the craft is going

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<v Speaker 3>to open the doors. You don't have to rush it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a process and it's going to organically happen. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>rush nothing. Don't skip no pages. Don't do none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just take your time with it. Practice your craft and

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<v Speaker 3>create harmony. And I say harmony, right, because... prime example

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<v Speaker 3>with myself and it's like I'm talking to myself for

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<v Speaker 3>the people that's listening it's like you say you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be a rapper and you believe in yourself but

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<v Speaker 3>you spend more time rearing up from the weight man

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<v Speaker 3>and being in the trap house that's communicating to the

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<v Speaker 3>universe that you really don't believe in yourself so create

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<v Speaker 3>harmony practice your craft be patient and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Man but in them days that like today right Kids

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<v Speaker 2>have a million ways to get jobs. They can do Uber.

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<v Speaker 2>They can do delivery service. You don't even need a

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<v Speaker 2>bike to be a delivery man now. Just walk and delivery.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying? And back then there was no,

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<v Speaker 2>only opportunity was That corner. I was right there with you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it's like I hear you talking and we

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<v Speaker 2>was young together. And I couldn't even look at you

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, yo, son, you wildin'. Because we was

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<v Speaker 2>doing the same shit in the same shit. But the

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<v Speaker 2>only difference I think I had, I had be high.

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<v Speaker 2>As my manager, your cousin, B-Hot, like, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>the OG, like, you didn't know, like.

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<v Speaker 3>He was checking niggas, pulling niggas, pulling niggas' coats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, but back then, like, think about it. We used

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<v Speaker 1>to run from the police. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Used to run from the bikers.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to hide from your moms. Right, right. Like, you

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<v Speaker 1>used to hide from your mom's best friend. Like, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want you telling my moms.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I had to run from B-Hot and them two.

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<v Speaker 2>That I had to hide from them too so that

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<v Speaker 2>was like another extra layer of guidance that I had

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<v Speaker 2>that I felt like anybody in your shoes today and

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<v Speaker 2>even back then that's the one thing I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Missed I think I think If it's something I could

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<v Speaker 3>have grasped on more back then, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people don't know our relationship. My godmoms lived 542 right across.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched Bleak cop the Jordan two weeks before they

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<v Speaker 3>came out when he was riding a bike.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched him get the green. I forgot what green called.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it was the silver Acura, the black Acura to

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<v Speaker 3>the 542. So I watched all of that, Hugo. Get

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<v Speaker 3>the silver Yukon.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Tahoe.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out Skane Dollar. Skane Dollar, that was my hand up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I got my shit from. Word.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, seeing you make it and seeing

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<v Speaker 3>you progress... I should have believed more that it was Rilla,

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<v Speaker 3>because I got a front row seat more than the

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<v Speaker 3>average person.

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<v Speaker 1>And we was together. Like, I come to the hood,

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<v Speaker 1>and me and you, we sitting on the benches, man. Everything, man. Yo, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got hit by a car in Miami riding

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<v Speaker 2>a bike.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I came home and bought bikes.

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<v Speaker 2>The homies was, remember, I had the four-wheelers, the bikes,

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<v Speaker 2>niggas wilding out.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to put everybody on at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>Niff Bleak, his video, Mossy Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, word up.

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<v Speaker 4>That was lit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, that Mossy Day, my G.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a big record.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the police shut that shit down. That's when

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<v Speaker 2>I knew. That's when it hit me. It was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>this shit real, bro. You famous. Listen, your album release.

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<v Speaker 3>I met you at the W Hotel, and we got

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<v Speaker 3>in a Sprinter together to go to the tunnel. Me

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<v Speaker 3>and Pow Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>You used to be with me all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Anything we was doing, any opportunity I had to be like, yo, Jizz,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, we out.

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<v Speaker 1>You was like, yo, M, I'm with you. But then

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<v Speaker 1>nine times out of ten, you was grinding. Yo, Bleak,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the block. Yo, Bleak, I'm trying to get it, man. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I always used to be like, yo, when the

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<v Speaker 2>new shit dropping, we would compare rhymes. We would spit together,

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<v Speaker 2>be in the crib. And that's the thing, like, people

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<v Speaker 2>don't know our relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, you, Jeter, Poof, Vaughn, Murder, Leaky. Like, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>squad was together, but then.

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<v Speaker 3>It's big Brooklyn energy, man. All day, my nigga. I

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<v Speaker 3>watched it, and that definitely inspired me in coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I could have grasped onto it, but everything

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<v Speaker 3>happened for a reason because our journeys have to, we

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<v Speaker 3>have to go through certain things in order to be,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a responsibility to be an artist. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people don't know that. It's people putting money behind you.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to show up to interviews on time. It's

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<v Speaker 3>people that's investing in you, so you got to be mature.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea about that until I started the warehouse,

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<v Speaker 2>like until I.

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<v Speaker 1>Really got the warehouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Music group shit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when we started getting budgets and it's like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to spend, 20 grand on this record or

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<v Speaker 2>30 grand on this record.

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<v Speaker 1>Record. And it's like, yo, y'all wilding. We ain't spending that.

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<v Speaker 1>And they looking at me like, what? Jay used to

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<v Speaker 1>spend 70, 60, 70 on your shit. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>call that nigga. Yo, every record I dropped, he was

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<v Speaker 1>dropping a 50 pack.

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<v Speaker 3>And he like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yo.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when the budget was big. I got signed up, Jim,

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<v Speaker 3>for 500,000. When they dropped me and released me from

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<v Speaker 3>the label, I went to Burt Bedell and my budget

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<v Speaker 3>was $ 800, 000 at the time, right? And I remember Havoc, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Labs hooked me and Havoc up to produce a record.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even show up to the studio, Blee. He

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<v Speaker 3>gets paid and everything. I'm not even showing up to things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying? It's things like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not even showing up, man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. But then you did have mad records, man.

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<v Speaker 2>You got records with kids, records with Fab.

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<v Speaker 3>Fab.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? What was that like? Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the beginning of Fab, the mixtape era.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, I'm going to give it up to the homie.

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<v Speaker 3>Big Brooklyn Energy, he spanked me on the record, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, chill.

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<v Speaker 4>He spanked me.

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<v Speaker 3>How y'all be saying, Paul's, I ain't into the Paul's thing. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm too old for that, man. He was, what's his name, though?

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<v Speaker 3>He was.

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<v Speaker 4>more mature in taking his craft serious.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just more direct instead of, you know, enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>the craft, playing with words. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>My sit down right now after being incarcerated for 12 years,

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<v Speaker 3>I read a lot of books. You know, that's why

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<v Speaker 3>when you say, yo, that freestyle that you just did,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to punish these niggas right now because I

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<v Speaker 3>play with words different and I take it more serious.

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<v Speaker 3>But the record with Fab, That's one of my favorite records, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it. It was big. Just Blaze did the beat.

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<v Speaker 3>Matter of fact, I had an OG homie that was

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<v Speaker 3>in the studio. He thought we made it. He was

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<v Speaker 3>up there. Vinny Vegas.

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<v Speaker 4>Shout out to Vinny Vegas. He was crying, Bleep.

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<v Speaker 3>We in Quad's studio, he start crying like, yo, we

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<v Speaker 3>made it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how it was, though, man. You had the opportunity, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>but What was it like? I know you caught your case.

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<v Speaker 2>You did 12 years, man. I know sitting there, I

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<v Speaker 2>know everything flashed before your eyes. Like, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like you let yourself down or whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? And not only let

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<v Speaker 3>myself down, I let people who believed in me and

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<v Speaker 3>who needed me, you know, I let them down. Most

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<v Speaker 3>of all, I let my daughter down because when I left,

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter was 12 years old. I come home and

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<v Speaker 3>she going on 25. You feel what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's like I didn't even have to do

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<v Speaker 3>some of the things that I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>No. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So you feel what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>It just was that era, bro. It was the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>But I appreciate the adversity because it builds character. And

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<v Speaker 3>one thing that I did on the bid on the

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<v Speaker 3>conservation was I looked in that mirror. I didn't point

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<v Speaker 3>no fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's his fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I only got a single parent, mother, and a household,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's they fault. Nah, nigga, it's your fault.

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<v Speaker 4>You in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>So I spent a lot of time doing that. And,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, after about three years or something like that

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<v Speaker 3>underneath me, man, like, I really just getting into my studies,

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<v Speaker 3>reading a lot. You know what I mean? And building myself, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how I came up with the brand Urban Graduate.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you about that, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Urban Graduate, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about that, man. What made you even think

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<v Speaker 1>about starting the clothing line? I mean....

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<v Speaker 3>It started with Russell when he told me, yo, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you $ 10, 000 to go back and get your GED.

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<v Speaker 3>It took me like two years to even go get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I had a little couple of dollars from him.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, I'm not going to get no GED.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he tightened up on the bread for me. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, I need some bread.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I could get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, he said we'll get the GED. So I'll

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<v Speaker 3>go get the GED. And the crazy thing is I

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<v Speaker 3>was so removed from school because I dropped out at

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<v Speaker 3>like the 10th grade. I tried to pay somebody to

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<v Speaker 3>go take the test. He leaves out the Brooklyn shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes one day and do that part. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the second day they catch on to his ID. He

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<v Speaker 3>runs out or whatever. So I go take the GED.

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<v Speaker 3>I pass the GED. I come to his office.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. And I go to his office and

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<v Speaker 3>he like, yo, man, you the urban graduate. It was

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<v Speaker 3>in my head that those words and I held on

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<v Speaker 3>to him. So now I get in prison. And I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>what the fuck? I got 25 years, man. Rap, I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't trying to fucking write no rap, nigga. I come home,

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<v Speaker 3>I be fucking 50 years old. You know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, how can I use my voice and

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<v Speaker 3>create something that God willing, if they do cut me

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<v Speaker 3>out early, I can have something that I feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>about and that really speaks.

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<v Speaker 4>Urban graduate is like a bar to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Urban graduate. So I start doing that. And now people

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<v Speaker 3>sending me money. you know, not people, but my family

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<v Speaker 3>sending me money. I'm like, yo, nah, my dad, $ 100,

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<v Speaker 3>you going to send me for commissary? And yo, get

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<v Speaker 3>10 t-shirts and put the logo on them. I'm doing

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<v Speaker 3>shit like that now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a blessing to even still have the inspiration and

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<v Speaker 2>the motivation to want to still create, man. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>you know you was born to do something great, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Come home and, bro, it's, one thing, shout out my man,

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<v Speaker 2>Tac Stone, man, right? He put up a tweet because

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<v Speaker 2>he was down. He was like, I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>down for six years and he had put up a tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, today is my sixth year currently being locked up.

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<v Speaker 2>And if the people out there, if you didn't elevate,

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<v Speaker 2>you still in the same position you was in when

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<v Speaker 2>I came to jail, then you in jail with me.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have you just free right now. But your

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<v Speaker 2>mind is in jail with me. And I was like, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy for you to be locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Facing 25. No, had 25.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Had 25. Do 12.

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<v Speaker 3>Come home.

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<v Speaker 2>Get back popping. Get a clothing line going. Yo, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>think about these guys who've been home 12 years still

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<v Speaker 2>pointing fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying? It's just like a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time. It's like, was they there with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean... I can't really speak on them, but

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<v Speaker 3>they definitely out there. And I think stories like mine,

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<v Speaker 3>it might be somebody right now who's saying, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>let me stop pointing the finger and go in that mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>And if there's one thing that I want to happen

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<v Speaker 3>from the interview, maybe it's that. Maybe it's more than one.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's two, three, four, five.

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<v Speaker 1>Inspire millions, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we're here for. You came home that fucking

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<v Speaker 2>come up. Yo, that freestyle, bro. Soon as I seen it,

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<v Speaker 2>I called my dog B.I. I said, yo, listen, get

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<v Speaker 2>it cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit Jinx. Tell him, listen, he got to pull up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Son, like, nah, you murdered that shit. I sent it

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<v Speaker 2>directly to my dog. I said, yo, this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the homies here.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice, nice. I ain't going to play with him right now, too, man.

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<v Speaker 3>After a while, after sitting down, I was writing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of music. My last, like, maybe seven years doing

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<v Speaker 3>it and writing a lot of music and then coming home.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when I first came home, because I've been

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<v Speaker 3>home like a little over a year, but it wasn't about,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, yo, yo, let me, yo, let me get

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo, let me get on the come up.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to come see my family, my daughter, my mother,

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<v Speaker 3>get myself established in the world. That was important to

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<v Speaker 3>me first. the rap thing, but I was always promoting

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<v Speaker 3>Urban Graduate, but it's easier to promote Urban Graduate in

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<v Speaker 3>the cut versus music. Now once I put the come

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<v Speaker 3>up freestyle out and the responses with it, now it's

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<v Speaker 3>time to move around a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, that shit moving, bro. I ain't going front. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does life look like for Jinx the Juvie today? Simple.

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<v Speaker 1>How have your priorities changed from then to now?

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody calls my phone. I'm unavailable, right? I'm unavailable, but

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people that know me from the past

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't going to say they did bad, but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get the support that my hand was called for.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's cool.

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<v Speaker 4>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But now it's like, keep it the same way. It's love,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's love from a distance. You're doing your thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing my thing. So I keep it simple, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I hang out with my moms. I be in the crib.

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<v Speaker 4>You feel what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>I talk to Russell. I go to the gym. I

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<v Speaker 3>go to church. I be chilling. He about to be

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<v Speaker 3>back active, y'all. He got some things. He got an

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<v Speaker 3>app called The Plug.ai. It's a management tool that people

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<v Speaker 3>can use, you know, like an AI version. Instead of

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<v Speaker 3>having a manager, you can like type things inside of

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<v Speaker 3>the search box of what you're doing. And it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a manager for you. Like I put a

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<v Speaker 3>video out. And it'll tell me, all right, well, shoot

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<v Speaker 3>two shorts.

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<v Speaker 4>Shoot a video. Like, it'll tell you and direct you

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<v Speaker 4>what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>That's dope. Look at Russ still creating new flash.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm trying to have my hand in it

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<v Speaker 3>like they do save bodies with hoes. You know what

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<v Speaker 3>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Let them know. Hey, yo, Russ, you see the.

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<v Speaker 1>Plug, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Russ.

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<v Speaker 3>I plugged that in for you, yeah. Hit me later.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk. That's how we go. That's how we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's promote it, baby. What is it? Theplug.ai?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jinx told me, say it. Yeah. You know what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Count me for that, Pop. I'll call you later.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, so what's the new music like, man? What you

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<v Speaker 1>got brewing? What you cooking, my G?

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<v Speaker 3>Recently, I tapped in with Dane Grease and Selfie. That

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<v Speaker 3>did a lot of early DMX stuff. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to work on an EP and a mixtape. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to drop the mixtape first. It's called Life After Fez.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Life After Death, Biggie shit. Life After Fez. This

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<v Speaker 3>is my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to be creative with the type.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real life. They like you fabricating, making up some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>You really lived it, bro. And you have to. tell

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<v Speaker 1>your story through your you have to bro yeah it's

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<v Speaker 1>right there is do you have the blueprint for what

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<v Speaker 1>these kids try to be today yeah you you did

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<v Speaker 1>it and i know you got some get some game

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<v Speaker 1>to give them that yo shorty man it ain't what

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<v Speaker 1>you think it is like.

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<v Speaker 3>If they if they if they want it because a

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<v Speaker 3>person got to be ready you know i mean at

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<v Speaker 3>the time for it because it's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>that i was being told over the years but i

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't catch it like Rush used to tell me... the

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<v Speaker 3>universe and energy. I'm like, that's some rich nigga shit.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to hear that. What you mean the universe, nigga?

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<v Speaker 3>Where the money at? I need some bread.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I need is the universe is money.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to lie. Them niggas do talk that earth, moon,

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<v Speaker 1>and stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit got to line up. You know the sun, it

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<v Speaker 2>goes in line every three years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real, though.

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<v Speaker 3>When I got older, for me, it got real. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, keeping things in harmony and reading books, reading material.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the thinking, grow riches, the richest man in Babylon,

0:20:20.790 --> 0:20:23.570
<v Speaker 3>you know, the power now, all these books and the shit,

0:20:23.609 --> 0:20:27.159
<v Speaker 3>different information. It's like, okay, I started to understand why

0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 3>things happen to me the way they happen, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what they say, man, if.

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<v Speaker 2>The way to hide information from our culture is to

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<v Speaker 2>put it in a book.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I got an idea. And they might jack it, right?

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<v Speaker 3>They might not jack it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even tell them. Okay, say no more. We ain't

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<v Speaker 1>giving away no free games. Lock it down, then you

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<v Speaker 1>give it away.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean? That's what big homie for.

0:20:49.730 --> 0:20:50.970
<v Speaker 4>That's what big bro for.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got some shit cooking outside of Urban Graduate

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<v Speaker 3>and outside of the music that's going to be real

0:20:56.369 --> 0:20:59.129
<v Speaker 3>influential for the culture and helpful for dudes to elevate, man,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what it's about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Looking at the current generation of Brooklyn artists now, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what excites you about the city music and where we're

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<v Speaker 2>headed with it?

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<v Speaker 3>I like everything, man. I'm biased when it comes to music.

0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:18.270
<v Speaker 3>I can't even call nobody trash or whack. I just

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<v Speaker 3>love it all. It's different. The fact that I don't

0:21:24.250 --> 0:21:26.790
<v Speaker 3>want everybody to sound bleak or everybody to sound like

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<v Speaker 3>jinx or everybody to sound like ho.

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<v Speaker 4>Things have to grow and evolve.

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<v Speaker 3>So it might not be necessarily something I might pull

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<v Speaker 3>up through the hood bumping with, but when I see

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<v Speaker 3>them doing anything like the group 41 from our projects,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, from Brownsville, when I see them doing what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing and they got a cult following and they

0:21:47.050 --> 0:21:49.270
<v Speaker 3>living out their dreams, it might not be per se

0:21:49.410 --> 0:21:52.170
<v Speaker 3>my type of music, but I like to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>What they're doing. And you just want to see them win, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially you from the culture, you from the hood, man.

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<v Speaker 1>You deserve it. It's enough for all of us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, man. That's dope, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, looking back on your journey, what's one moment you

0:22:06.830 --> 0:22:09.540
<v Speaker 2>would say you're most proud of? Because anybody could say, yo,

0:22:10.100 --> 0:22:12.500
<v Speaker 2>you regret something. But what's the moment you could look

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<v Speaker 2>back and say, yeah, I did that?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say Rapsody in the Basement with Russ. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>and the reason, like, I'm going to tell you the

0:22:23.350 --> 0:22:26.869
<v Speaker 3>back story to that. I wasn't invited to Rapsody in

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<v Speaker 3>the Basement with Russ.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in the office, right?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm in the office. I hear somebody like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>us down there, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>At 106th and Park. I'm like, what?

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<v Speaker 3>He where without me? Goes down there. I pull up

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<v Speaker 3>down there, go up in there. He like this, looking

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<v Speaker 3>at me like, that's what I'm talking about, little nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>Get here.

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<v Speaker 3>If you paying attention and you reading the room, you

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to know that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went in there and I smashed the joint

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<v Speaker 3>and I signed my name on the wall with him.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like one of my biggest accomplishments right there.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, man? If you could go back, right? This

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>is a question I used to ask myself. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could go back and give the younger Jinx the juvie

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<v Speaker 1>one piece of advice about life, music industry, or just

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<v Speaker 1>in general, any advice you think he would be, would

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<v Speaker 1>be useful to the younger version of you, what would

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<v Speaker 1>it be?

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<v Speaker 3>Never allow circumstance to dictate how you feel about yourself

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<v Speaker 3>or how you're moving or what people say or people's

0:23:26.420 --> 0:23:31.500
<v Speaker 3>opinion to dictate get so much inside of your mental

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.980
<v Speaker 3>to where you start believing what they said, whether that's

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<v Speaker 3>good or bad. Because sometimes we get gassed up because

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.959
<v Speaker 3>somebody said it. Yo, Bleak said the come up was fire.

0:23:40.020 --> 0:23:41.619
<v Speaker 3>Now I don't go home and write no raps no

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<v Speaker 3>more because Memphis Bleak told me my shit was fire.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying? So you just got to,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, don't allow circumstance to dictate how you're

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<v Speaker 3>moving because everybody, even the most successful people, come from

0:23:52.780 --> 0:23:56.940
<v Speaker 3>humbling experiences. That's right. I would say that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good gem right there. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>people misunderstood most about your story?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, man. Russ wasn't giving me no fucking handouts.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo, talk about it. Yo, and another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Niggas didn't want to fuck with me because I fuck

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<v Speaker 4>with Russ.

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<v Speaker 3>Made it harder.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, nah, you fuck with Russ.

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<v Speaker 3>I ain't.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, nah.

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<v Speaker 3>Matter of fact, you ask a nigga, yo, son, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't assume me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo, why you ain't? Why Russ ain't?

0:24:27.369 --> 0:24:29.790
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm talking to you. You talking about Russ.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all. So that Russ thing was like a gift

0:24:32.510 --> 0:24:35.030
<v Speaker 3>and a curse. That's right. That's not really, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying? And that's the thing that hurt. I

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<v Speaker 3>know you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick, they swear hold wrote everything. He was with me

0:24:43.590 --> 0:24:47.430
<v Speaker 2>paying for everything and not everything. It's like, are you bugging?

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<v Speaker 2>If I needed that, I'd have been back on the bench.

0:24:50.390 --> 0:24:53.970
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? They don't understand them niggas up there.

0:24:54.010 --> 0:24:56.790
<v Speaker 1>They really give you no training wheels.

0:24:56.850 --> 0:24:57.989
<v Speaker 3>No training wheels at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No helmet, neither. Go out there and fall eight million times.

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<v Speaker 1>It don't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Do your thing, though.

0:25:04.250 --> 0:25:06.510
<v Speaker 1>And don't come here until you do your thing.

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<v Speaker 3>No crying, no nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm grateful to come up like that. No handouts and

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<v Speaker 4>all that.

0:25:11.410 --> 0:25:15.780
<v Speaker 3>This whole thing is going to be organic and through

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>trial and error, through hard work, through discipline, through dedication.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, we live in an era today where Everybody pointing

0:25:23.330 --> 0:25:26.330
<v Speaker 2>fingers and it's everybody else's fault except the man in

0:25:26.350 --> 0:25:29.970
<v Speaker 2>the mirror, like you said earlier. So I think that

0:25:30.090 --> 0:25:34.229
<v Speaker 2>way of being raised in the business helped us to

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>never be that guy. Because, bro, it was a time

0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 2>when this shit wasn't working no more for me neither.

0:25:39.700 --> 0:25:43.130
<v Speaker 2>And I'm home trying to figure it out. Music ain't poppin'.

0:25:43.300 --> 0:25:47.340
<v Speaker 2>mixtapes ain't hitting, shows ain't being booked. Man, it's like,

0:25:47.380 --> 0:25:49.850
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck do I do now? Where I go next?

0:25:50.330 --> 0:25:52.990
<v Speaker 2>That's why I got into the liquor thing. Let me

0:25:53.030 --> 0:25:53.910
<v Speaker 2>try it another way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying?

0:25:54.650 --> 0:25:57.030
<v Speaker 4>Reinventing yourself. You are Memphis Bleak.

0:25:57.170 --> 0:25:58.430
<v Speaker 3>You just reinventing yourself.

0:25:58.450 --> 0:25:59.190
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>You sure what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of these guys still be stuck.

0:26:01.770 --> 0:26:05.010
<v Speaker 2>On that one way and think, being that it ain't work, man,

0:26:05.090 --> 0:26:06.940
<v Speaker 2>it's this nigga for why it ain't work.

0:26:06.980 --> 0:26:09.420
<v Speaker 4>And it's like, that's when you gotta think about it, Bleak.

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:13.820
<v Speaker 3>Everybody not built. No disrespect to nobody, but It's easier

0:26:13.859 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 3>to say it's your fault.

0:26:15.090 --> 0:26:16.850
<v Speaker 1>Easy. That's the easiest thing to say.

0:26:16.890 --> 0:26:18.610
<v Speaker 3>Man, I could do that at the blink of an eye.

0:26:18.650 --> 0:26:20.070
<v Speaker 4>Like, yo, it's your fault.

0:26:20.109 --> 0:26:20.650
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:26:24.030 --> 0:26:25.649
<v Speaker 3>And I got some homies, not to call them out,

0:26:25.670 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 3>but it's people, when you've been doing something for 20...

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:32.980
<v Speaker 3>25 years one way, and it's not working. It's a

0:26:33.050 --> 0:26:35.930
<v Speaker 3>hard pill to swallow to say that's not working.

0:26:35.970 --> 0:26:36.969
<v Speaker 1>It ain't fucking with me.

0:26:37.230 --> 0:26:39.830
<v Speaker 3>You feel what I'm saying? And that means in the

0:26:39.869 --> 0:26:43.230
<v Speaker 3>streets or anything. You just got to have the courage

0:26:43.270 --> 0:26:46.189
<v Speaker 3>and be brave enough to say, this look like it's

0:26:46.230 --> 0:26:47.609
<v Speaker 3>headed toward a dead end. As a matter of fact,

0:26:47.630 --> 0:26:49.910
<v Speaker 3>I'm at the dead end. It might be smart enough

0:26:49.950 --> 0:26:50.910
<v Speaker 3>to make a U-turn.

0:26:50.990 --> 0:26:53.929
<v Speaker 1>And go back. Yo, I'm telling you, bro, that's the

0:26:53.970 --> 0:26:55.410
<v Speaker 1>definition of insane, though.

0:26:55.750 --> 0:26:59.230
<v Speaker 2>To continuously do something the same way and expect different results.

0:26:59.910 --> 0:27:02.050
<v Speaker 1>And like you say, if you've been doing this shit 10,

0:27:02.030 --> 0:27:03.900
<v Speaker 1>20 years and didn't get nothing different, it's like.

0:27:04.060 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 3>You've been hustling forever. You ain't over 250 yet. You

0:27:07.540 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 3>ain't rich yet and it's been 30 years.

0:27:09.619 --> 0:27:11.230
<v Speaker 1>You still on the same block.

0:27:11.310 --> 0:27:13.150
<v Speaker 3>Time to get a little trade or something. A little

0:27:13.170 --> 0:27:15.450
<v Speaker 3>vocational or something. Yeah, you know what I mean?

0:27:15.470 --> 0:27:17.870
<v Speaker 1>Don't sweep the park, you can stand in the chair.

0:27:17.910 --> 0:27:20.590
<v Speaker 1>They'll pay you more for sweeping the park.

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<v Speaker 3>Real shit, though. Real shit, though. This nigga be crazy, man.

0:27:25.950 --> 0:27:27.950
<v Speaker 1>Nah, that's a fact, though, man.

0:27:28.390 --> 0:27:31.729
<v Speaker 2>Like, when it's all said and done, right, and you

0:27:31.780 --> 0:27:34.820
<v Speaker 2>want your name said and people talk about Jinx the

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Juvie from Brooklyn, New York, hip-hop, even the sacrifices you've

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 2>been through, the trials, the tribulations, what you want to

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>be remembered most for?

0:27:44.109 --> 0:27:48.490
<v Speaker 3>I want to be remembered as somebody who was resilient,

0:27:49.430 --> 0:27:51.110
<v Speaker 3>that took.

0:27:50.950 --> 0:27:53.710
<v Speaker 4>All the bumps and bruises like Rocky.

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:55.899
<v Speaker 3>I want to be somebody like, if I had to

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 3>be somebody I could compare it to, I want my

0:27:57.460 --> 0:28:00.160
<v Speaker 3>career to look like Rocky. He took the beat, the loss,

0:28:00.180 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 3>the drop from Def Jam, the 25-year sentence, and this, that,

0:28:04.780 --> 0:28:07.460
<v Speaker 3>and the third, and came out on top. So it

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 3>could remind him that even when the chips is down

0:28:10.100 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 3>and when you down, nah. That nigga Jin, you still

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:14.380
<v Speaker 3>got something in your tank?

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:15.379
<v Speaker 1>Give it to him.

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.540
<v Speaker 3>Because it's never over until that shit is over. Until

0:28:17.580 --> 0:28:19.810
<v Speaker 3>God take the breath out of our lungs, it ain't

0:28:19.830 --> 0:28:20.310
<v Speaker 3>never over.

0:28:20.350 --> 0:28:21.690
<v Speaker 1>Until the fat lady sing.

0:28:21.770 --> 0:28:22.350
<v Speaker 3>That's it, man.

0:28:22.369 --> 0:28:24.670
<v Speaker 1>These fat women on Ozempic now, so I don't think

0:28:24.690 --> 0:28:27.630
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be singing No Time Soon, my G.

0:28:27.690 --> 0:28:30.250
<v Speaker 3>Nah, for real, though. But that's what I want to

0:28:30.609 --> 0:28:32.260
<v Speaker 3>be remembered by, man.

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:33.060
<v Speaker 1>Word up, man.

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:33.990
<v Speaker 3>Like, yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, so what's next, man? What's the next move? I

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.140
<v Speaker 2>know you got the clothing line, you got the music.

0:28:42.490 --> 0:28:45.870
<v Speaker 2>Anything you want to get ever thought about doing acting?

0:28:46.310 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I heard some people tell me about the acting, but

0:28:50.380 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 3>more than just what's to come next, And I hate

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 3>to sound like them people up there that we was

0:28:56.820 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 3>talking about. I'm present in the now. You know what

0:28:59.660 --> 0:29:01.510
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying? I'm present. I'm real present in the now.

0:29:01.530 --> 0:29:03.190
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of work to do. You know

0:29:03.210 --> 0:29:04.930
<v Speaker 3>what I mean? It's not going to come easy. One

0:29:04.990 --> 0:29:06.870
<v Speaker 3>freestyle that's hot on the come up, it ain't going

0:29:06.890 --> 0:29:09.330
<v Speaker 3>to be that. It's going to take consistency. And I

0:29:09.350 --> 0:29:13.750
<v Speaker 3>think between the music and my clothing brand, it's enough

0:29:13.790 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>on my plate at this moment. But I am going

0:29:15.860 --> 0:29:18.700
<v Speaker 3>to do my book though. I've been working. I got

0:29:18.740 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 3>a great book where it's a lot of different stories

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.410
<v Speaker 3>in there that's You know, behind the scenes, that's crazy.

0:29:24.430 --> 0:29:26.890
<v Speaker 3>That thing is going to be interesting and inspiring at

0:29:26.930 --> 0:29:27.590
<v Speaker 3>the same time.

0:29:27.610 --> 0:29:28.150
<v Speaker 1>Got you.

0:29:28.170 --> 0:29:31.390
<v Speaker 3>Because my book is either terrifying in some chapters, but

0:29:31.450 --> 0:29:34.030
<v Speaker 3>it's inspiring in others, depending on what chapter you read.

0:29:34.050 --> 0:29:36.490
<v Speaker 1>You really been through it, Jinx, man. Like you said, man,

0:29:36.530 --> 0:29:39.850
<v Speaker 1>you've been shot six times, bro. I remember being young.

0:29:40.110 --> 0:29:42.170
<v Speaker 2>And then hearing that shit yo jinx got shot like

0:29:42.230 --> 0:29:44.500
<v Speaker 2>no way like what the fuck like what my son

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>is he doing man what he doing he wilding he

0:29:47.220 --> 0:29:50.340
<v Speaker 2>just was over here cancun with these niggas right like

0:29:50.820 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing.

0:29:51.700 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 3>You know what it is too bleak back then you

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.300
<v Speaker 3>know you go to dev jam office and you're around

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.540
<v Speaker 3>all the stars and everything like that you're around jay

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 3>around all of y'all But then when I came to

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the hood, I was the man. So now it's more

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 3>fun in the streets back then with that mentality. Because

0:30:07.100 --> 0:30:09.610
<v Speaker 3>when I'm out here, I'm Jinx. I'm the one giving

0:30:09.670 --> 0:30:11.750
<v Speaker 3>out fat farm clothes. I'm the one with the dick.

0:30:11.850 --> 0:30:14.229
<v Speaker 3>I'm that nigga. So now I want to be in

0:30:14.310 --> 0:30:17.470
<v Speaker 3>that environment versus being around more people that can make

0:30:17.510 --> 0:30:19.030
<v Speaker 3>me great and bring me to higher levels.

0:30:19.070 --> 0:30:21.550
<v Speaker 1>That's a fact. Trust me, I missed a lot of

0:30:21.570 --> 0:30:23.610
<v Speaker 1>opportunities with that same dumb shit too.

0:30:23.670 --> 0:30:25.710
<v Speaker 2>I want to go to the hood. I want to

0:30:25.730 --> 0:30:28.260
<v Speaker 2>play the bench. Play the hood. I want to be

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the man. Bring all the cars, all the bikes out.

0:30:31.020 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 2>By holding them, partying in the city, rubbing shoulders with

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.420
<v Speaker 2>millionaires on their way to becoming billionaires.

0:30:37.500 --> 0:30:40.220
<v Speaker 1>I'm on my way to become the hood icon.

0:30:40.260 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember one time I was in Hamptons at Russ Cribb.

0:30:45.170 --> 0:30:47.070
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, I don't want to be here, man.

0:30:47.110 --> 0:30:48.910
<v Speaker 3>I want to get to the, not for real, like,

0:30:49.270 --> 0:30:51.660
<v Speaker 3>the fuck? I'm bored as a motherfucker. Like, man, I

0:30:51.650 --> 0:30:53.460
<v Speaker 3>ain't trying to, like, that makes sense. I'm being, and

0:30:53.500 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I share some of those experiences.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

0:30:55.860 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 3>But think about that today, bro. It sounds crazy.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.260
<v Speaker 1>You admire those trees.

0:31:00.340 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Sounds crazy. That boring, empty pool.

0:31:02.540 --> 0:31:04.900
<v Speaker 1>Because I remember being in the Hamptons back in the

0:31:04.940 --> 0:31:08.220
<v Speaker 1>day like, this shit is trash. I never want to

0:31:08.260 --> 0:31:11.270
<v Speaker 1>be here. Now it's like, you bugger. How much the crib?

0:31:11.430 --> 0:31:13.930
<v Speaker 1>They wilding. We going to rent the hotel. We'll get

0:31:13.970 --> 0:31:14.830
<v Speaker 1>the crib next year.

0:31:14.850 --> 0:31:17.310
<v Speaker 3>Come on, man. All that's going to be in the

0:31:17.370 --> 0:31:21.469
<v Speaker 3>book though, man. Those experiences, being transparent about the come

0:31:21.550 --> 0:31:23.860
<v Speaker 3>up and the setbacks and the mind friends.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>That's another reason why I started this too, man. Like,

0:31:27.690 --> 0:31:30.460
<v Speaker 2>For people to learn the personality, who I really am, because,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, just reading the source, XXL and Vibe and

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>listening to the album, they're not going to really know

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:36.980
<v Speaker 2>who you really are.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:37.460
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>So transparency, I feel like.

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.230
<v Speaker 2>A lot of rappers today we we are i'm pushing

0:31:43.250 --> 0:31:45.910
<v Speaker 2>i'm 48 i'm about to be 50 bro ain't no

0:31:45.950 --> 0:31:49.390
<v Speaker 2>more acting like the rap mystique is still there we

0:31:49.670 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 2>we about to go double platinum next month and that

0:31:52.900 --> 0:31:55.420
<v Speaker 2>shit over though it's time to let niggas know what

0:31:55.460 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 2>it is and i feel like a lot of rappers

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:01.350
<v Speaker 2>would go further if they were more transparent more transparent

0:32:01.370 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 2>away that fake the road you know what i'm saying.

0:32:04.820 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to listening not to cut you off but

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.300
<v Speaker 3>i got a page man um jinx life at the

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 3>feds youtube channel and i ain't wait to the come

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 3>up dvd and all that i show niggas like riding

0:32:16.140 --> 0:32:18.210
<v Speaker 3>a bike i got i got footage of me riding

0:32:18.230 --> 0:32:20.970
<v Speaker 3>a bike to go fill off a job applications and

0:32:20.990 --> 0:32:24.130
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that like i'm gonna show the transparency and

0:32:24.150 --> 0:32:26.850
<v Speaker 3>the real shit So they can walk with me through

0:32:26.870 --> 0:32:27.969
<v Speaker 3>that journey. You know what I'm saying?

0:32:27.990 --> 0:32:28.990
<v Speaker 1>That's what I be trying to tell people.

0:32:29.030 --> 0:32:32.350
<v Speaker 2>Like, they look at it like, yo, Duse, you started,

0:32:32.410 --> 0:32:34.100
<v Speaker 2>you got with Duse and you just lit.

0:32:34.140 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Like, Duse started as... Nothing.

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 3>And build it up.

0:32:38.290 --> 0:32:41.460
<v Speaker 2>It's 13 years later. Now you're looking at the, and

0:32:41.510 --> 0:32:43.270
<v Speaker 2>it ain't even, I ain't going to say the end result.

0:32:43.630 --> 0:32:45.170
<v Speaker 2>Because we in the middle of the book.

0:32:45.490 --> 0:32:46.510
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we moving.

0:32:46.910 --> 0:32:49.810
<v Speaker 2>But that beginning of the book, niggas was not out

0:32:49.850 --> 0:32:51.570
<v Speaker 2>there in the front of the club with me trying

0:32:51.610 --> 0:32:52.850
<v Speaker 2>to sell bottles.

0:32:52.490 --> 0:32:55.330
<v Speaker 1>To the club. Going to these liquor stores like, yo, Pop,

0:32:55.350 --> 0:32:57.370
<v Speaker 1>what up? Can you take this? And you know what

0:32:57.390 --> 0:32:57.530
<v Speaker 1>I mean?

0:32:57.550 --> 0:33:00.510
<v Speaker 2>Dealing with other companies paying these liquor stores and clubs

0:33:00.910 --> 0:33:02.110
<v Speaker 2>not to carry our brand.

0:33:02.150 --> 0:33:04.500
<v Speaker 3>Right, right, right, right. All those adversities.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Niggas wasn't out there with me in the rain trying

0:33:06.860 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to get shit done. With trunks full of this shit

0:33:08.980 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to promote. Putting it on the ground. Now that

0:33:11.660 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it's popping. Now it's, yo, Bleak, you ain't take care

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:15.420
<v Speaker 1>of me.

0:33:15.460 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Let me do this.

0:33:16.100 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Let me be an ambassador.

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's for the audience as well.

0:33:21.350 --> 0:33:24.030
<v Speaker 3>You can't expect everybody to believe in your dream from

0:33:24.050 --> 0:33:26.380
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, neither. So you might as well get that

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 3>out your mind. Like, niggas want to come when this

0:33:28.180 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 3>shit popping.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, that's another thing people need to know.

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:37.020
<v Speaker 1>And like you said, reality, bro, I remember 07, right

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:41.150
<v Speaker 1>when the recession hit. 07, 08, around that time. When

0:33:41.230 --> 0:33:44.990
<v Speaker 1>I realized, and it hit me. And I'm just like, yo, Blizz...

0:33:46.050 --> 0:33:49.430
<v Speaker 1>You're not that nigga no more. They ain't checking for

0:33:49.470 --> 0:33:50.310
<v Speaker 1>that big.

0:33:50.190 --> 0:33:53.510
<v Speaker 3>Rocker fella shit. I heard you say that in a

0:33:53.510 --> 0:33:57.510
<v Speaker 3>different interview. You're saying that nigga, you're not young no more,

0:33:57.550 --> 0:34:00.150
<v Speaker 3>but at the end of the day, what you carved

0:34:00.210 --> 0:34:02.770
<v Speaker 3>in the game and how you came in the game

0:34:03.190 --> 0:34:05.910
<v Speaker 3>from the whole coming of age joint to the sequel

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 3>to your albums and things like that and being around Hov,

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>coming from Marcy, coming from Brooklyn, being a young dude

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 3>that was coming up with a big dog.

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.060
<v Speaker 4>That's going to forever be in history.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.290
<v Speaker 1>No, no. Yeah, no. That's right.

0:34:20.330 --> 0:34:23.089
<v Speaker 2>But what I'm thinking, what I'm trying to say is

0:34:23.630 --> 0:34:27.009
<v Speaker 2>I just think the message was wrong. I didn't grow up.

0:34:27.690 --> 0:34:30.509
<v Speaker 2>You feel me, bro? Like I was still on that

0:34:30.570 --> 0:34:34.380
<v Speaker 2>young shit. I was still rapping about we still spinning.

0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>We still clipping shit. We out here pushing work. We

0:34:37.739 --> 0:34:40.739
<v Speaker 2>doing this. I remember my man B.I. I bleed on

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.260
<v Speaker 2>my mixtape. I had a mixtape. Beat off the land.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting it out, right? And I sent him the mixtape.

0:34:46.140 --> 0:34:49.779
<v Speaker 2>That nigga was in NC. He called me like, yo, Bleak, yo,

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 2>this shit fire. But I just want to ask you

0:34:52.180 --> 0:34:55.529
<v Speaker 2>one thing. Yo, why you rhyming about so many guns? Like, yo,

0:34:55.570 --> 0:34:57.930
<v Speaker 2>my nigga, we don't even be strapped no more. We

0:34:57.950 --> 0:34:59.070
<v Speaker 2>don't even got no beef.

0:34:59.110 --> 0:35:00.989
<v Speaker 1>That nigga's like, yo, why you don't talk about none

0:35:01.030 --> 0:35:03.430
<v Speaker 1>of the fly shit we doing? We just was in Greece.

0:35:03.590 --> 0:35:07.740
<v Speaker 3>Russ say the same thing to me too. And you

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 3>got to take the, they are not artists, right? So,

0:35:12.670 --> 0:35:15.170
<v Speaker 3>I take what they say as important because it is,

0:35:15.210 --> 0:35:17.450
<v Speaker 3>but at the end of the day, if I, Cole

0:35:17.489 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 3>said it, truthfully, I want to rhyme like common sense,

0:35:19.860 --> 0:35:21.700
<v Speaker 3>but I did 5 mil, I ain't been rapping like

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 3>common sense. Yes. You know what I'm saying? So you

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 3>know the audience, but you got to do.

0:35:27.219 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>It in a way that's... But what I didn't understand

0:35:30.430 --> 0:35:32.670
<v Speaker 2>when he said that and what it is now is

0:35:33.130 --> 0:35:33.569
<v Speaker 2>you have to.

0:35:33.570 --> 0:35:35.170
<v Speaker 1>Rap about what you actually live.

0:35:35.650 --> 0:35:38.650
<v Speaker 2>What you're seeing, what you're doing, what you're experiencing, what

0:35:38.690 --> 0:35:43.230
<v Speaker 2>you feel, your happiness, your sadness, your confusion, everything. Because

0:35:43.290 --> 0:35:45.690
<v Speaker 2>it's people in the same boat as you. Like my

0:35:45.730 --> 0:35:48.190
<v Speaker 2>dog Cheat said when we first linked, he like bleep.

0:35:48.830 --> 0:35:51.910
<v Speaker 2>I'm a real fan of you, bro. Like I grew

0:35:52.010 --> 0:35:55.310
<v Speaker 2>up with you and you just stopped. You didn't teach

0:35:55.390 --> 0:35:57.530
<v Speaker 2>us how to be adults. You didn't tell us what

0:35:57.550 --> 0:35:58.549
<v Speaker 2>it was like being an adult.

0:35:58.610 --> 0:35:59.609
<v Speaker 3>That's a true story, though.

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.900
<v Speaker 1>Like, you gave us the game as kids, but then

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.380
<v Speaker 1>you just stopped. So what are we supposed to do

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>as adults?

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.900
<v Speaker 3>Like, what's the name of your joint? That was my shit. Yo,

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.339
<v Speaker 3>I grew up like a regular cat. Some nigga hit

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.820
<v Speaker 3>me with Kusami. Shit, yo, I settled with that. Went

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.020
<v Speaker 3>to my block, got it off of Cop Metal with that.

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 3>That was my shit right there.

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Skins Passing Away inspired that record. Like a hundred, a

0:36:24.380 --> 0:36:27.180
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. It's a sad thing, but that's one of

0:36:27.219 --> 0:36:31.020
<v Speaker 2>my illest records and him passing away inspired that record

0:36:31.060 --> 0:36:33.700
<v Speaker 2>because it was like at that time, like that's what

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:34.410
<v Speaker 2>we was on.

0:36:34.450 --> 0:36:37.850
<v Speaker 1>Nigga giving you consignment. First thing you needed was that

0:36:37.930 --> 0:36:40.370
<v Speaker 1>strap or, you know, niggas coming to.

0:36:40.210 --> 0:36:40.989
<v Speaker 3>Take that strap.

0:36:41.989 --> 0:36:43.129
<v Speaker 4>With the band, all that.

0:36:43.410 --> 0:36:44.650
<v Speaker 1>Niggas was a part of the trends.

0:36:44.710 --> 0:36:45.210
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:45.250 --> 0:36:48.100
<v Speaker 3>You can't forget about that too. Dressing, the do-rag, the

0:36:48.140 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 3>bandana with the hat.

0:36:49.219 --> 0:36:50.100
<v Speaker 1>I was a little fly nigga.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

0:36:50.460 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I was stepping a little something, you know what I'm saying?

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 2>They don't try to give me my props, but they

0:36:55.500 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 2>know who put these niggas on.

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 3>I seen boy put it down from day one, you

0:36:58.620 --> 0:36:59.580
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying?

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:01.690
<v Speaker 1>I always looked up to you, bro.

0:37:01.770 --> 0:37:02.660
<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you, man.

0:37:02.730 --> 0:37:05.110
<v Speaker 2>We looked up to each other, man, because I always,

0:37:05.610 --> 0:37:09.989
<v Speaker 2>like one thing I always said about you, I was like, yo,

0:37:10.590 --> 0:37:13.450
<v Speaker 2>This nigga got that distinct voice, man.

0:37:13.489 --> 0:37:16.210
<v Speaker 1>Like, I don't give a fuck who on the record.

0:37:16.270 --> 0:37:20.240
<v Speaker 1>You know when Jinx rhyme. And even to this day,

0:37:20.260 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Cheap said the same thing. I sent them the come

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:27.360
<v Speaker 1>up DVD freestyle. Nigga said, yo, some voices, ew. I said, yo,

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>since a kid I've said that, yo.

0:37:29.380 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 3>That's definitely important. And I hear it too, not to

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 3>be no arrogant way, no nothing. Like, hearing myself in

0:37:35.620 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 3>the booth, because I just went in the studio for

0:37:37.500 --> 0:37:41.489
<v Speaker 3>the first time, maybe like A month ago. I've been

0:37:41.530 --> 0:37:42.730
<v Speaker 3>home 14 months.

0:37:43.670 --> 0:37:46.629
<v Speaker 4>And when I heard myself, I said, yeah, you got

0:37:47.050 --> 0:37:47.969
<v Speaker 4>it in your tank, boy.

0:37:48.030 --> 0:37:53.090
<v Speaker 1>Nigga, you got that distinct tone, like that James Earl Jones,

0:37:53.130 --> 0:37:55.779
<v Speaker 1>like how he did the commercials. You could do voiceovers

0:37:55.820 --> 0:37:59.020
<v Speaker 1>like that, too. Don't just get stopped on rap.

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>You can fuck around here on the American Express Capital

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 2>One commercial.

0:38:03.540 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:38:04.620 --> 0:38:04.980
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:38:06.460 --> 0:38:09.060
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, you got them voices. I ain't going.

0:38:08.700 --> 0:38:11.450
<v Speaker 3>To lock myself in no box, man.

0:38:12.310 --> 0:38:13.470
<v Speaker 1>We came up in the box.

0:38:13.510 --> 0:38:15.010
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right. We out the box.

0:38:15.030 --> 0:38:15.730
<v Speaker 1>You feel me?

0:38:15.870 --> 0:38:18.109
<v Speaker 2>Once we got out of there, we was out the box, man.

0:38:18.270 --> 0:38:21.410
<v Speaker 2>Fuck that. It's a long way to go now, my G.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:27.060
<v Speaker 2>And definitely, man, welcome home. Continue much success. Continue doing

0:38:27.340 --> 0:38:28.260
<v Speaker 2>everything you're doing.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.470
<v Speaker 1>I'm a supporter. Anything you want to promote, anything you need,

0:38:32.710 --> 0:38:34.710
<v Speaker 1>get any shirts, send them. I'm going to rock them.

0:38:34.770 --> 0:38:36.110
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to promote them on the bar.

0:38:36.130 --> 0:38:38.469
<v Speaker 2>You know I want to see all my guys win.

0:38:38.610 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I wish you much success, much longevity. And, bro, no

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>more bad decisions.

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's go, my nigga.

0:38:46.780 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 4>That's 25 years. That shit fix everything.

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I already know, my brother. Real fucking spitting. You hear me?

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.890
<v Speaker 2>Real Brooklyn shit. Niggas don't play when it came to

0:38:56.910 --> 0:38:59.890
<v Speaker 2>that pen. And I welcome home. His pen is sharper

0:38:59.910 --> 0:39:02.230
<v Speaker 2>than it's ever been. Tap in, man.

0:39:02.290 --> 0:39:06.469
<v Speaker 1>Jinx the juvie. You urban graduate. Everything he got, man.

0:39:06.510 --> 0:39:09.690
<v Speaker 1>Tap in. It's real Brooklyn shit, man. We here. Rock silent.

0:39:10.170 --> 0:39:10.670
<v Speaker 3>My nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>Love, bro.

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