WEBVTT - Classic Interviews 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:05.120 This is your wake up, Hall Up Breakfast Club to 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.560 show you love to hate from the East to the 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.440 West Coat DJ v Angela y Charlomagne, the the rulers 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:13.440 show on the planet. This is why I respect this 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:16.200 show because this is a voice of society. James in 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.680 the game. Guys are the coveted morning show. What y'all 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.520 earning it? Exacting the coach up in the morning and 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.919 they want to hear that Breakfast the world's most dangerous 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:35.040 morning show. Morning Everybody is DJ m vy Angela Yee Charlomagne, 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:36.879 the God. We are the Breakfast Club. We got a 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.040 special guest in the building, my guy Bill Simmons. Bill Simmons, 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:42.760 I didn't really want to talk to him because he's 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:47.720 such a die hard Boston fan, Boston fan Patriots, Like, 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.720 can't we all get along? He's the giant Yankee guy. Yeah, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:53.120 oh no, you don't know if you want to be 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.840 a Yankee Met, you don't know a Yankees fan in 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.480 the Giants fan. You like the Yankees and the Mets. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.440 Are you one of those like every time I'm something 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.880 good happens to the New York baseball team. Like my 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.479 dad worked near Yankee Stadium, but you're from Queens, so 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.240 I'm a Yankees fan by heart, but I still root 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.160 for the Meds. I don't support that. That's like having 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.119 two wives. I agree. Let's you like that Big Love Show. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:18.560 No fan also, and he's coming here with Jess Jersey's 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.360 on too. By the way, the same thing happens with 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.640 Chicago with the Cubs in the White Sox, and I 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.720 didn't like that either, some of the White sixe. No, 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.959 it's great for Chicago, the Cubs fans, and it's like, oh, 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.520 you should hate the Cubs. Yeah. And it's not like 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.360 having two wives, like being bisexual. No, that's what it is. Yeah, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.760 it's not. Yes, it's not like sex. It's bad. Every 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.640 year I pick a different football team that I roote for, 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:39.360 not just be like this year, this is a team 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.920 that I like just based off of my instinct. It's 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:46.080 some here it is this is based off of my instinct. 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.240 Like this year, I like the Detroit Lions. Oh that 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.360 was a good pick. Yeah, yeah, they're kind of an 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.320 up and I think twenty and sixteen has been so weird. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.000 I this is the one year I could actually see 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.560 the Lions making the Super Bowl, stopping think not with 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.800 my Cowboys. Well, think of all the weird that's happened 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:05.200 the Cubs, Cleveland wins, wins the title like the evolution, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.760 and the Cowboys are the Kardashian The Cowboys are break 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.960 it down for me. Okay, they get a ton of 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.520 attention whether they're good or not. That's true. If they 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.160 don't have talent, They're still in the headlines every week. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.639 So this season the Cowboys are actually good. It would 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.200 be like if Kim Kardashian was in the Jackie movie 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:28.280 or something. So who kiscar nominee? Who's uh j Elia 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.440 shows the stomach a lot na? Jerry would be Chris. Oh, yeah, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.679 you're right, Jerry's Chris. Yeah. So whoever the quarterback is 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.640 Dak baby. Well see that's the things I really like 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.400 Dak Okay, instinctively I want to root against the Cowboys, 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.520 But the last two quarterbacks you've had are both like 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.120 very likable. Yeah, what do you think about football? I 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.200 was watching the documentary of A Day and it was like, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.520 it's affecting kids so bad. You know, their brains are 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.400 not fully grown. It's really messing the kids up. I 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.639 don't understand how we have youth football all the evidence 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.200 we have so far, it's like if you get a 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.959 concussion when you brains not fully formed yet, if it's 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.679 like under if you're under fifteen, it's it's terrible. And 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.480 if you get two like you're pla you know, you 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.360 know what they even said, they said it's crazy because 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.040 in the NFL they don't hit each other during practice, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.919 there's no full hitting. But in youth football they hit 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.960 four times a week, five times a week. I said, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:18.720 even in high school they only hit twice a week. 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.680 Why are you having these kids hitting sevent eight nine two? 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.120 I don't understand. I have a nine year old son 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.320 who's built like a tank. It's like all muscle. He 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.360 doesn't want to play football, does he want to do? 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:30.959 He actually wants to be a professional wrestler, which is 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:35.280 probably worse. He's doing like cannonballs off our couch and stuff. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.600 But we do not want him to play football. I 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.560 don't want him to play football. I don't know. I 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.920 think every parents different, and it probably depends on where 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.080 you are in the country, you know. And I think 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.560 where football goes is probably a little bit like boxing, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.880 you know. In boxing, all of a sudden it became 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.600 not cool anymore. Boxing was like in the thirties, forties 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.800 and fifties, it was like a great way out for 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:57.440 anyone who is poor, and then eventually it became really 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.760 something that was geared more toward the minorities when you 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:01.280 look at would happen to the eighties and nineties, two 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.920 thousands foreigners and people like that. And I think with football, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.280 it's gonna have its little bass, right, it's gonna Texas 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.600 or was gonna play football. It's part of the culture. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.680 Like they'll spend sixty million dollars on a high school 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:17.040 football stadium in Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, yet anywhere in the South. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.000 So there's gonna be pockets. But I think, I honestly 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.440 think it's gonna be like the election move out toward 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.000 the Red States. I don't think they give it. Probably 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.000 have allowed to do it too though. Yeah. Absolutely, If 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.320 you think your kid can get you out the hood 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.560 by running that ball, you go play football. But let's 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.479 say you're a nine year old kid, I don't know 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.400 the outskirts of Dallas, you have no money, and you're 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.479 a great athlete. I would want to play basketball. I 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.719 look at hoops, I'm like you have a twenty year career. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.320 You're not gonna get hurt. You're not gonna have headed 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.479 basketball a little more but that, But that would be 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.039 my first pick, and then after that you look at it, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.680 you go, all right, baseball would be great, that's another one, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.440 but football would be like my third pick. The thing 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:58.600 is like those contracts aren't guaranteed and it's a short life. Okay. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.839 Somebody had this ANALOGI about running backs and porn stars, 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:07.240 Like stars only have so many movies, and then after 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.080 that they're get a little gaming running back. Same thing. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.400 You have how many cares you have? Two thousand? Yeah, 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.479 you get a little good seasons at the most good seasons. Yeah. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.479 So if so, if you're Zeke Ellie, you could have 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.520 played every sport. You're looking at a career where you're 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.160 under a rookie contract the first four years, you're taking 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.520 a ton of punishment. He signed that one second contract 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.279 with Arian Foster did or like Gronkowski. Gronkowski seven years, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.159 he's had like eight surgeries now, you know, and he's 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.920 somebody that could have probably played any sport, but now 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.240 he's he's in three back surgeries. He blew out his 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:41.599 knee get a high ankle sprain. He broke his forearm twice, Like, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.440 how many years is that guy gonna play? Him? May 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.120 be done before he's thirty. I'm shocked to hit that 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.000 you care about players getting hurt because I saw you 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.720 tweet out about Clay Thompson. He went for sixty now 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:54.159 that they should have kept him, and he's a little 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.520 fasketball you can go for it, but they were about 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:58.520 to get me to hurt. Probably, how's he gonna get hurt? 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.920 He shot three third fighting point happen. People are trying 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.160 to compare it to like the Warriors going for seventy 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.200 three wins last year. It's totally different that that was 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.160 a situation when you're playing back to back games, you're 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.240 playing four games and five nights. You're putting miles on 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.080 your team that you don't have to Klay. Thompson's like, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.760 just go out and play for five more minutes. Get 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:23.159 to seventy because I wrote, I mean I spent selfishness, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.720 I spent three years right in a basketball book. You 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.120 look at those lists, and those lists are forever, like 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.560 David Thompson's seventy three points, Pete marriage sixty, Kobe eighty one. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.159 I was mad, like three weeks before Kobe got eighty one. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.160 He had sixty two against the MAVs after three quarters, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.520 and I actually wrote a column for ESPM magazine was like, what, like, 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.479 you know, five nights like that in your life, stay 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.200 out there so you can get And then he actually 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.520 did it. Everybody remembers the eighty one, that ten year 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.240 anniversary oral histories, you know, a short film about it. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:58.039 Jailer Rolds can't live it down. You guys asked about that. Yeah, 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.200 you know what, he's got awesome sense of human that 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.800 because Jalen always says that, you know, he was never 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.280 the greatest defensive specialist. That's my due thought to him. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.039 I watched that whole interview. What nice, I mean, we 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:12.960 just have conversations with people. Yeah, he Beckham. Julia'll tell 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:19.640 you I wasn't talking about that. Oh I'm sorry, my bad. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.000 See I love Odell. What's interesting is all the kids 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.000 love Odell and they don't have a lot of football 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.160 players like that because that because he's fun. He's always 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.040 like dancing, he hangs out with Drake, he has a 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.120 good time. He's nice, he's good. Don't just say because 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:35.360 he's you know he's good. He gets gay like in 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.320 the nineteen thirties. Yeah, really happy guys. You know what, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.920 they're lucky with the with the kids that they love. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.400 The one hand right, the one hand and catches. So 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.320 they're being like the you know, research trying. I'm gonna 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:48.800 do my son does it all time? Let me try 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:50.840 to good adell. All right, we got more with Bill 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.880 Simmons when we come back, keep it locked. It's the 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:59.480 breakfast locomotor, the breakfast club. How she ever, says cover 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:05.640 see coming to merse showing of a cunning me morning. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.880 Everybody is DJ MVY, Angela Gyei, Charlemagne, the guy. We 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.720 all the breakfast club. We have Bill Simmons in the 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.400 building there. Yet, what do you think about athletes having 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.920 political views on things and taking a stand? You think 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.160 that that doesn't belong? I love it. I totally supported 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.040 with Kaepernick. Did The problem with Kaepernick is the more 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:26.280 he said and did, the MORENT made you go, hmm. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.560 I don't know if this guy has a master plan, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.720 Like the fact that he didn't vote I thought was 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.440 really strange, Like if you're gonna position yourself as this 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.319 kind of twenty and sixteen version of John Carlos and 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.959 Tommy Smith, and you're doing stuff with the big picture 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.640 of mind of all that stuff. How do you then say, 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.880 I'm sitting out the election. It doesn't matter if he 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.360 was anti governing an anti establishment from the beginning, though, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.400 I thought it would have been weird if, like, you know, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.560 one of the candidates was like, had a big police 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.880 reform policy that they was going to implement and was 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.520 talking about it, and if he didn't vote for that, 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:56.240 then I'd have been like, Okay, that's a little screene. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.760 But just to sit out because he don't believe in 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.559 the government. I didn't have a problem. What do you 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.800 guys think I had. Lebron handles stuff like I thought 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.600 what he did with jay Von Martin in the HOODI 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.800 is in the Miami team. I thought that was really important, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:08.680 in the fact last night he didn't stay at the 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.760 Trump Hotel here in New York. Yeah. Yeah, he's subtly 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.720 it sometimes I at least feel like he's thinking about 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.080 it more and more and more. Jordan was always like, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.440 I'm not doing anything that messages with my sales. I 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.280 want to appeal to everybody. I'm not I don't want 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.360 anyone know what I'm thinking, Well, Jordan wasn't in the 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.880 social media era. No, he wasn't a put pressure on 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.720 you to you know a lot of things that defy 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.640 what people normally do, like NBA players. As far as 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.040 the people around him and his team, I agree, and 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.360 it's been working for him. Lebron has handled it as 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.600 well as anyone could have possibly handled it, because when 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.600 you think about it, he's basically a child actor. He's 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.280 basically had the same forces going against him that like 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.640 Screech did and Britney spearious about his place. People are like, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.920 didn't work out over great and it goes wrong, Michael Jackson, 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.599 and you know, Lebron was famous from the moment he 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.160 was sixteen years old, and he was this poor kid 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.280 who was sleeping on couches when he was eight years 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.199 old and didn't have like a great family infrastructure, and 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.559 he was like always very tight with his buddies and 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.959 it was his Yeah. No, I'm not saying that he 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.240 had hit his boys and those were his boys and 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.720 that was like that became his family. But when you think, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.679 oh this that got thrown on him, he's in the 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.520 cover of Sports Illustrated playing high school games on ESPN. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.040 He's get people are giving him hommers. He's got all 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.240 these people coming at him trying to give money. And 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.080 then he goes into the NBA right away he's really good. 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.000 And then just the arc of his career, I think 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.160 he's handled it great. I think it's because he embraced 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.760 the hate, like he didn't fight against it like sometimes 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:38.560 you just got to own it. He did fight against 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.079 it for like four months. Remember that first Miami season 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.000 he was playing. He had this anger about him that 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.920 wasn't him. So I think he had a lot of trouble. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.000 And I think the Warriors, you've seen it this year 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.199 a little bit. I think they're having trouble when you 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.520 go from being this beloved team that's old league passed, Oh, 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.400 Curi's catching fire and embers on Twitter, and then all 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.839 of a sudden, you're like the wrestling villain. You know, 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.199 Draymond loves it. He's meant to do that. But I think, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.560 like somebody like Steph Curry, I'm sure he's a little 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.760 bit like, oh what happened whenever they loved me? Not 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.360 see you and sharlet me to have a lot in common. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.440 He gets threatened a lot and you got threatened by 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:18.120 Isaia Thomas the legend did stephen A Smith show like 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.760 ten years ago when I see, Yeah, so I used 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.480 to make fun of him as the Knicks GM and 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.320 rightly so because he was doing Did you ever ask 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:31.559 with he was gate Isaiah Thomas? No, why do you 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:35.760 want to ask? Everybody game? I was asking? They was 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.959 kind of like Odell Before Odell. Everyone was like, is 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:42.280 he is he not? Seriously? Come on, Bill, you remember well, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.079 I mean him and Magic were kissing each other in 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.520 the cheeks and I'm sure that probably help. He said 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.840 on stephen A that, uh, that he ever saw him 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.000 in the street would be in trouble. And then two 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:55.040 years later, No, I saw him in Vegas. I was 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:59.360 playing blackjack at one of those European places where you're outdoors, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.120 you're by the pool and it's like the girls can 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.240 be naked, but it's never anybody you want to see. Yeah, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:13.520 what a rich privilege they cars the tops. No, No, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.840 you have like the black check table here and then 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.120 the pool is over there and just like people are top. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.120 It's like all European. But then you could do that 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.679 at the Mandalay Bay. You can do it at a 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.720 bunch of them. Yeah, I've never heard of so okay, 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.599 so what happened? You and I have some prostitubes. No. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.040 I ran into Gus Johnson. Okay, remember Gus Johnson, the announcer. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.040 He's still that he did the Fox game on something. 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.599 And he came over. He's all somber Gus Johnson like 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.880 that the Gus Johnson won. He's like, hey, man, Isaiah's 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:38.920 over there. You know, he wants to talk to you. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.160 I'm like, all right, get up from a black check table. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.480 We go. We have this meeting by this top us pool. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:46.920 I wrote about it in my book. It kind of 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.640 broke bread. He laid out, like, I get it, I'm 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.240 a public figure. I disagreed, and you remembered like everything 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:53.840 I wrote, which I thought was weird. Did you ever 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.880 think y'all gonna no and I'm here would have won. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.559 He's taller than I am, and he's probably and you 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.640 know he's a professional athlete. Think he would have kick 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.680 my ass. So he knew he knew everything that you wrote, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.599 so that means he was he knew it. I was 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.199 surprised by how much he paid attention to it. And 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.640 he was like explaining what was interesting was as he 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.480 was explaining it, he was kind of winning me over. 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.120 He's like, the whole league's going small. So I thought 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.560 when I got Eddie Curry and Zach Randolph, I'd go big. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.040 And I'm like, yeah, I say that's pretty good. Afterwards, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.880 I'm like, that's the terriblez never heard. But when somebody's 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:25.679 explaining that to you in the moment, you're like, oh, 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.400 all right, maybe it made fit, But yeah, I think 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.360 I had better odds than you in the five on 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.839 one whatever he got jumped. Yeah, you probably did. Yeah, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.800 one on one, I mean I might have been able 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.280 to good luck luck five on like he's had. That's 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.040 way worse. You gotta get the hell out of the dodge. 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.559 Did you guys think what Birdman was in here to? 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.480 Do you think that was gonna get Never? No, that's 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.280 why when you said the story about other thing, I'm thinking, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.439 I wonder if at any point in mind did you 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:53.400 think there may fight me with hip hop? You never know. Listen, 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.719 there will never be another Birdman moment like that. That 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.920 is like the greatest three minutes on YouTube. It's incredible. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.439 The whole he's mad before the cameras or seen him. 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.000 Did you guys feel like he was gonna jump over 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.719 the table? You No, I didn't really think that. He 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.800 was sitting right here right. Yeah. He was right older 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.120 than you, bro, but he was angry. He was very 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.920 like that, very upset. What was what was it? Did 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.360 Jim embert um Jimmember Chris Chris Rome moment? Yea, but 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.640 that was Jim Rome Chris Jim Rome, Yeah whatever, Yeah, 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.680 Jim Rome. There's this Rams quarterback and he wasn't very 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.520 good and Jim Rome always called him Chris Everett, the 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.640 tennis player. So he came out on a show and 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.640 Jim Everett's like, I bet you won't call me Chris, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.680 and Jim's like Chris, And the guy flipped the table 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.160 and like grabbed him and knocked him down. Really why 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.000 it was on ESPN, and I gonna get one of these. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.360 I can't wait for that. Well, this is close. I know, 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:48.360 I know, I know he's in good shape over there camera. Man. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.720 I almost save that one for next year. I was 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.840 Burman so mad, though. Charlot said that if you're honest, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.560 she's stupid to sign with him, because you're not gonna 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.640 get paid to make any Moore he's got a true though, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.080 he got a history exactly, he got a history or not. Mean, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.880 it's like the most famous, like people never get paid. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.320 He's up there, what's in him on the street? Yeah, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:12.320 I'm sorry everybody. They don't assault white people. They don't. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.160 Have you ever been threatened by anybody else? Like? Has it? 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.880 I mean on social media and emails and stuff like that, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.000 But I mean, like an athlete, do they get upset 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.560 that you say ever? Or they just taken on the tap? 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.640 I'm sure they have. I've definitely run into people where 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.080 it's a little tense. It's more coaches, the GMS and 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:32.320 people like that, like the people that run the teams, 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.000 because I always love making fun of the people that 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.960 run the teams to make bad decisions. But sports people 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.720 have a good sense of humor bad I think when 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.520 it gets tense, that's usually athlete versus athlete like Odell 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.280 and Josh Norman last year, which would be like a 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:47.360 thirty for thirty episode. Yeah, I've heard some of different 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:54.960 explanations and stories the love of quarrel. You created thirty right, 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.680 I did your idea? Yeah, yeah that was two thousand 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.240 and seven. Now we're pace to do like nine of them. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.400 All right, we got more with Bill Simmons when we 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.640 come back. Keep it locked, don't move. It's the breakfast 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:14.440 Local Motor, the Breakfast Club wanting everybody is DJ M, 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.480 v Angela, Ye, Charlomagne and God we all the Breakfast Club. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.480 We have Bill Simmons in the building now, Charlomagne. I 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.000 even said it. The negative stuff I hit boy Bill 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.760 Simmons comes from people from ESPN, Like they said, you're different, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.080 you were difficult, and yeah, all I did. All I 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.320 did was trying to do good for them, you know, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.320 and like you look at Grantland and thirty for thirty 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.200 and all these different places that I work for, and 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.240 everybody got along great, even my TV show. You know, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.440 it's weird. ESPN is a place that they never want 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.440 anybody to get their own little fifetom of power basically 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:52.240 leased them. They want they want the brand to win. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.360 And I do think I hit a point there when 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.120 I had Grantling at thirty thirty going at the same 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.480 time I was on the NBA show. Definitely a lot 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.200 of power and I was in LA. People in Bristol 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.920 are like this guy, like I don't know, might be 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.399 bigger than the brand of ESPN. Basically yea. And by 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.080 the way, nobody's going to be bigger than the brand. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.760 The brand's an eight billion dollars brand, you know. And 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.160 what's wrong with it's weird because they operate a little 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.520 bit like how the NFL operates. NFL doesn't want any 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.880 player basically to have any identity whatsoever. Like you take 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.840 your helmet off after a touchdown, it's a penalty, and 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.440 you're celebrated after touchdown, get a penalty. Like there's this 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.359 coded racism to it that I think is really up 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.640 coded racism. Yeah, okay, we're gonna Why do they care 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:37.600 so much about how people behave after they've succeeded in 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:43.320 a football game? What is that? Grady? You know, I 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.840 think it would be white people too, but just in general, 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:47.920 like there's an expressiveness, and I think it's one of 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.960 the reasons that people have responded to the NBA so 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.760 much because the NBA has always blended for better and 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.760 worse black culture in sports, and it's been race has 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.760 been the most fascinating thing about the NBA since then 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.239 the fifties when they only allowed like one black guy 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.240 per ten, like they had all these rules and Russell 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.160 comes in, he makes a horizontal Will comes in Oscar. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.960 The attitude in the sixties and seventies is basically like, 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.240 oh my god, the black guys are taking over the NBA, 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.600 and you saw it with the TV ratings. You read 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.520 these stories, there's some ump stories. The NBA did have 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.440 one moment, one moment when they pushed back. That's what 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:26.399 was the ai A nineties. But if you go with 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:27.679 the shoes re member, they didn't want them to wear 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.000 a certain color shoes. They found them with the shoes 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.639 and AI with the hair and with the jewelry. There's 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.280 this amazing story in Sports illustrat in the late seventies 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.720 where the ratings are going down in the NBA and 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.159 they're trying to figure it out, and the whole premise 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.520 of the story is the NBA is two black, what 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.359 do we do? In the mid nineties, which had a 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.000 lot to do with the hip hop era and just 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.040 the expressiveness of that and the he's like, oh, what 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.480 are we gonna do? Like these haircuts as guys have, 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.720 look at the way they're dressed when they don't tattoos. 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.080 Oh my god. Alan Iverson was the scariest than they 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.680