WEBVTT - Mick Shots: That’s All Folks

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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<v Speaker 1>Shots screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

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<v Speaker 1>official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are inside the s

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<v Speaker 1>WBC podcast studio at the Star in Frisco. It's sunny outside,

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<v Speaker 1>not so sun. Although Mickey has a smile on his face,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Everson is not a happy camper as he walked

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<v Speaker 1>in the studio. And we're here to break it all

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<v Speaker 1>down over the course of the next forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>on Mick Shots, I was smiling, wondering how you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to start this off since you didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>musical starting to thee there's no music. The band has gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Music has died. Although as you can see, I refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to accept the seasons over. I still got that was

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<v Speaker 1>a tough one yesterday. So how you go? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how you're gonna make me feel better, Spacks, It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be very hard. And it sounded like listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen doing his segment on the Fan that just moments

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<v Speaker 1>ago as a matter of fact, that there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good feelings in that team meeting room and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was kind of down, I would imagine, because the

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing about NFL seasons, especially when you get into

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, is you go one hundred miles an hour

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<v Speaker 1>for six months and then everything comes to a screeching halt, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard to accept, not only I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>for the players, the coaches, whatever, us two, that you

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<v Speaker 1>do something this much for six months and then it's over,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the blink of an eye. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>my football career too. Yeah. Man, you just you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're kind of prepared to go forward. You're never

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<v Speaker 1>willing to accept that. Yeah, but it could be over.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the Cowboys it's over. They got themselves a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to blame for. And I don't know where you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to start, but start from the beginning. We

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<v Speaker 1>should point out what Stephen did say in that interview,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's top of mind as far as coaching going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did get something that was somewhat definitive from

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen kind of absolutely, yeah, he basically as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach goes that I think the question was

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<v Speaker 1>posed or you're confident that Mike McCarthy will be the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach of this team this year, and he said yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>So get that out of the way right on. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's really weird that it even comes up, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you get into the business that if you lose a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game, you're fired, boy, you're gonna have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of turnover in the right And I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>that always starts, um, you know, And and I think

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<v Speaker 1>two things have created that. Um. When they fired chan

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<v Speaker 1>Gaily after the ninety nine season because he didn't win

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff game those ninety eight and ninety nine. But

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<v Speaker 1>really the reason they fired him is it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>good fit between the head coach and the quarterback. Remind

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<v Speaker 1>me on that how long after the season was a

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<v Speaker 1>decision made not to bring him back. It was after meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>It was after right, It was after digesting the season,

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<v Speaker 1>having an opportunity to talk with players talk, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And because if I remember correctly, they named Dave Campo

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach when I was already at the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, So what was the record before that season?

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<v Speaker 1>So they wasn't like this, They went ten and six,

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<v Speaker 1>lost the first round game to Minnesota, and then eight

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it was the opposite way around. One year

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<v Speaker 1>they lost to Minnesota and then the next the other

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<v Speaker 1>year they went ten and six and lost to Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when he was fired and he and then

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<v Speaker 1>he got fired. So he had two consecutives ten and six,

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight, and the ten and sixth season was

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<v Speaker 1>the last time, So that might have been the ten

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<v Speaker 1>and six season was the last time they had swept

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC East. They won eight games in the division.

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<v Speaker 1>That's back when St. Louis was still in the NFC East.

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<v Speaker 1>If I remember correctly, Lieuten in six and ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>lost to Arizona, and in ninety nine it was I

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<v Speaker 1>can read it. I mean eight and eight in lost

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Minnesota. That was the wide receiver had a big day. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Montys, we got lost. After we got they started

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<v Speaker 1>a verb for him too. So anyway, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, look the reason, and everybody keeps saying they

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<v Speaker 1>fired Wade Phillips so Jason Garrett could take over as

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<v Speaker 1>the head coach. They fired Wade Phillips because they were

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<v Speaker 1>one in seven and he had lost the team. They

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<v Speaker 1>were not playing for him the last eight games and

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<v Speaker 1>one in seven they were no the first That's how

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<v Speaker 1>they started that season. One in seven and they were flat.

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<v Speaker 1>They were they they just didn't have anything, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was time to change. And the easiest change was because

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett was there. So I think those two things.

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<v Speaker 1>And he went five and three of the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, and he was named the permanent coach after that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eight Nate eight Nate eight Nate until they

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<v Speaker 1>went to eleven and five and twenty fourteen. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other part of that and why the why

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<v Speaker 1>questions are being asked about the head coach is because

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<v Speaker 1>other teams are interviewing the both coordinators for head coaching jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore and Dan Quinn. And so the thought out

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<v Speaker 1>there as well, if if Jerry Jones really is enamored

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<v Speaker 1>with keeping Kellen Moore or Dan Quinn, whether you make

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<v Speaker 1>a change. So so it was basically Stephen has put

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<v Speaker 1>that to rest. It's he said he confidently absolutely expects

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy back now that we can get to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And and since we're going to get to the game,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like after the way the offense and defense performed

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<v Speaker 1>in that game. That's what That's what That's what they

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<v Speaker 1>say anymore. That's what I said last night. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I laid all that out about the coordinators. And then

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<v Speaker 1>unless these other teams watch today's game and that gives

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<v Speaker 1>them pause, you know. Uh. Starting with the defense though, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the way the Niners came out in that game, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that opening drive of the game, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a knife through butter. Okay, and they did everything exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the way they had planned. And then they had the

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the way we figured right right. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>all knew it, right, we one knew it. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>see them saying, oh wow, that was a little twit.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I wasn't ready for that. They could not

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<v Speaker 1>have said that. And then they were they were held

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<v Speaker 1>to field goals the rest of the I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>had success offensively, but they had to settle for field goals.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's a sixteen seven lead at the half,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the score they got head in the second

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<v Speaker 1>half was after an interception and next play Deebo Samuel's

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<v Speaker 1>in the end zone. Yeah, they have to give up

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty six stard run. The next play. Right, this

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<v Speaker 1>is when you make This is when you answer as

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<v Speaker 1>a defense right, right, this is when you respawn. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I expected to But no, the issue on

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<v Speaker 1>offense that you better score more than seventeen points right

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<v Speaker 1>to win a playoff. Well, I'm gonna we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>how the game ended, right, But the reason they were

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation at the end. On Friday, in my column,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote three things that had to happen if the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys were going to win. Number One, their offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>had to play better than their offensive life. And they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not. It was embarrassingly bad. Dak was and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to look at why was Dak so inaccurate?

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<v Speaker 1>Number one? He got sacked five times? Number two, and

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<v Speaker 1>this may be even worse, he got hit fourteen times

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. Throwing past is fourteen, okay, And they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't run the ball. And if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>running game, they had seventy seven yards. Seventeen of them

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<v Speaker 1>was not a planned run. It was Dak Prescott's scramble

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<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown. So they had twenty one carries. First,

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<v Speaker 1>how many did you get on the last play of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. I forgot about that. Yeah that was the

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<v Speaker 1>running backs. The running backs had sixteen carries for forty

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<v Speaker 1>five yards. Yeah right, And and other than that one run,

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<v Speaker 1>even the one run for a touchdown, they ended up

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<v Speaker 1>with twenty carries for sixty yards. Well that Your offensive

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<v Speaker 1>lines got to play better than that, got to play

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<v Speaker 1>better than that. And they didn't. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the other team did not have their best defensive player

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<v Speaker 1>on the field for the last thirty minutes of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Bosa. Uh and and shocking he got a sack

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<v Speaker 1>by spinning into the inside. Somebody had to look for that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't play well, but again that has been a

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<v Speaker 1>problem the majority of the year. The offensive line number two.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to not let Deebo Samuel take over the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He took over the game right, and ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten yards from scrimmage, including the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six yard touchdown run on an end around that he

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<v Speaker 1>doubled back on. And I don't think anybody laid a

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<v Speaker 1>hand on him for twenty six they did not. He

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<v Speaker 1>danced around back there, picked his spot. Boys, he did.

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<v Speaker 1>He's good. He is good. But but you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>allow greatness, right, you know, And I'm thinking of that

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I know for a fact, when you have

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<v Speaker 1>as a safety, it is your job to find the

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<v Speaker 1>hole that the running back is going to find. As well.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to anticipate what that is. You can't come

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<v Speaker 1>over first of all, over pursue when you abably have

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<v Speaker 1>another guy out there setting the edge for you can't

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<v Speaker 1>over I'm gonna do the play. Yeah, you can't over pursue.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be poised waiting for that moment. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>he can't make it through the sideline. The extra defender

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<v Speaker 1>that's out there. This is your gap here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're learned that from playing with the flex That was

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing of Tom Langer's defense. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>plug in were you're supposed to be, trust them to

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<v Speaker 1>do their job. This is no time to not be disciplined, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This is no time not to be poored. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear what Deebo said to Kyle Shanahan after

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<v Speaker 1>that interception? Oh? Yeah, give me the ball. Yeah, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the ball, and he gave him the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, what was the play they ran

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<v Speaker 1>when they had they were trying to get a first

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<v Speaker 1>down to end the game. It was basically it was

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<v Speaker 1>Deebo Samuel, same deal and wound up an inch short. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan said afterwards when they asked him about it, he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Debos said something to me. There was so

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<v Speaker 1>much noise. I didn't understand what he said, but just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at him, I knew what he meant. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>give me the damn ball right now. And then thirdly,

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<v Speaker 1>what has been this defense's problem all season long? Big plays,

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<v Speaker 1>big plays? And I pointed that out that if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't get multiple takeaways to get San Francisco off the field,

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<v Speaker 1>the big plays will kill them if they didn't stop that.

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and looked before the game, Cowboys had

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<v Speaker 1>given up seventy six plays runner pass of twenty yards

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<v Speaker 1>or more and they came into the game with seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>So their offense was big play. It wasn't marching down

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<v Speaker 1>the field play after play after play. Well, in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>they had fifteen snaps of at least ten yards, totaling

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and forty of their three hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>one total yards, two hundred and forty came on fifteen plays,

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<v Speaker 1>So they didn't stop the big play. So all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that worried about going into the game came to

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<v Speaker 1>fruition and that's why they were scrambling at the end

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<v Speaker 1>to try to get one more play to throw to

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. And you know, it's amazing that we

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<v Speaker 1>even got into that position. Actually, it's a testament, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing you can be proud of. It really isn't

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the pattern that we've shown, and that pattern

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<v Speaker 1>has always been been shown as a failure. When I

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<v Speaker 1>like the pattern where we come back and score fifty points, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what we saw yesterday. And that's been our

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<v Speaker 1>consistency or inconsistency throughout the last half of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Is trying to be more consistent in victory, right, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make the plays that you need to play when

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to do and not leave yourself in this

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<v Speaker 1>frantic situation at the end of a ball game. God defensively, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I was we we When it's all said and done,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain things you have to know about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And no matter how good we feel certain games, we

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<v Speaker 1>do not have the defense that can carry a team.

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<v Speaker 1>We have one that can make plays, but offensively, we

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<v Speaker 1>still have to compliment our offense. I still think that's

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<v Speaker 1>our identity. And when our offense is not playing well,

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<v Speaker 1>then we struggled. And when I say struggled, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>we start to lose our poise and start to make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you look at I mentioned the duress Dak

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<v Speaker 1>was under, Jimmy Garoppolo did not get sacked one time

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<v Speaker 1>and he only got hit four times. So he threw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball twenty five times and they just didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to him. And you lost to a team whose quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>rating ended up sixty seven point four sixty seven point

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<v Speaker 1>four and only passed for one hundred and seventy two yards.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the plays they made, the big play

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<v Speaker 1>bring the chains, right, they played like us. That's us,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the Cowboys. They're not trying to go down the field.

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<v Speaker 1>They are trying to get themselves in position to move

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<v Speaker 1>the chains. That's exactly what they did. Controlled ball game.

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<v Speaker 1>Multiple played drives and it was a quarterback plane with

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<v Speaker 1>a spraying thumb. He didn't well, they didn't need it

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<v Speaker 1>because they're running the ball. They got debot hundred in

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine yards rushing, and that's how you protect your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback right there. Run the ball and move the chains

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<v Speaker 1>without having to ask for third and fifteen thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking at thirty s when they managed to get

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<v Speaker 1>them into those situations. By the way they that's when

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<v Speaker 1>they were successful. We were successful games. Yes, absolutely, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's break time or what do you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to join today. And I don't know if this little

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<v Speaker 1>fan pack thing had anything to do, but I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, and I usually don't see these things,

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<v Speaker 1>that before they let the standing room only crowd in,

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<v Speaker 1>there were people already lined up along the railing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if those were the Cowboy United fan

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<v Speaker 1>packed and you got that privilege to enter the squatters

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<v Speaker 1>They were the squatters, the sooners before everybody else came

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<v Speaker 1>rushing in. I saw the video of everybody rushing in. Yes, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Mad Dash and to the surprise of the people

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:10.120
<v Speaker 1>that were on the West concourse, Nickelodeon was set up

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<v Speaker 1>taking their space in the middle standing room on that

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<v Speaker 1>second day. Wow. Yeah, And the announced attendance was ninety

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand, four hundred and seventy. Didn't get a hundred, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not two hundred. I bought my brother in law and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>my foundation partner. The forty nine ers fans tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get it to one hundred thousand. Yeah, I brought the

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<v Speaker 1>couple and so yeah, brother in law was his birthday, Elmo.

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<v Speaker 1>He's crazier fan than than you and I put together.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna have to do my zanas before the

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<v Speaker 1>game he did. How about after? Yeah, okay, and we

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<v Speaker 1>really I must commend both of us because my foundation

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<v Speaker 1>partner is a major Niner fan. Okay, So how was

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<v Speaker 1>the setup in the stands? Because on TV I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching on t when the forty nine Ers came on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, they showed a shot of the visitors side

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<v Speaker 1>of the stadium. There was in the background and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a ton of red all that it appeared anyway

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<v Speaker 1>to be a ton of red. But then when the Cowboys, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so when the Cowboys came on the field, and the

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<v Speaker 1>cow on the home side of the field, it was

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be virtually all white, more normal. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>the upper deck that you didn't see in the four hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost all red on their sideline. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see that. You can see where the line

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<v Speaker 1>was drawn. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of Cowboys fans

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<v Speaker 1>made a lot of money because they sold their tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>And I you know, twenty four. I ran into somebody

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<v Speaker 1>and said his buddy of his had two lower level

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<v Speaker 1>seats and he made twenty four couldn't dollars, He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>pass it two tickets each. I mean to each that

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<v Speaker 1>about pace for your season ticket, almost right, okay, okay

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<v Speaker 1>into the game, all right, have had it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what your guys feeling is. I understood the

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<v Speaker 1>last call, why it was made the way it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was designed. It wasn't like a spur of the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you saw the all twenty two, the way

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco was played, they were all lined up on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the field knowing that they could not

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<v Speaker 1>give up a pass to the boundary and let him

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<v Speaker 1>get out of bounds. Yes, right way. This way, this way,

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<v Speaker 1>this way. They looked lined up on the sideline the way. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The poor kicker for San Francisco was lined up inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys cheerleaders lines when they were marching off the

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<v Speaker 1>field that he was in the middle of him practicing

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<v Speaker 1>his kicks. Right, So they're all lined up up on

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<v Speaker 1>the side, So there was no San Francisco player between

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<v Speaker 1>the forty and when they showed it the twenty, there

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>was nobody. The rest of them were at the goal line.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea is run the ball up the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>slide when you think you've gotten fire enough, and then

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<v Speaker 1>spiked the ball. Well, here was the big problem. And

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<v Speaker 1>I finally looked it up and found it because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I had remembered when the NFL changed where the

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<v Speaker 1>umpire stands used to be five yards behind the defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, you know what, that's a little dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna move him behind the offensive line so they

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<v Speaker 1>can have a look. So he kind of lined up

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<v Speaker 1>opposite across from the head referee. In twenty ten, the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL announced that this repositioning would be permanent. Or five

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<v Speaker 1>major injuries were suffered by the umpires in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and nine. From twenty ten to twenty fifteen, the umpire

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<v Speaker 1>returned to the defensive side of the line of scrimmage

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<v Speaker 1>during the last five minutes of the second half because

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<v Speaker 1>they figured, all right, teams are going to be trying

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<v Speaker 1>to hurry up. We got to have the ball spotted quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in twenty sixteen, they this provision was deleted and

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<v Speaker 1>now the umpire stands in the offensive backfield and all

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<v Speaker 1>plays except when it's obvious when the offensive team will

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<v Speaker 1>spike the ball. So here's what happens. I went back,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the time Dak takes off. There's fourteen seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to go. He slides down. With nine seconds to go,

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<v Speaker 1>the umpire was still at the fifty yard line. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what he thought he was going to see

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>from there, but he was still at the fifty yard line.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll get into way. Alex Kemp, the head referee,

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<v Speaker 1>answered the the pool reporters questions. He did not get

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<v Speaker 1>to the ball until there was like four seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to run twenty five yards and then he

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<v Speaker 1>had to bust. He had to bust through the line. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And he had to bust through the line to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the ball, and the rule is the umpire has

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<v Speaker 1>to touch the ball before you're allowed to snap in

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<v Speaker 1>a hurry up. So I don't know what he thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing back there. But here's what else happens.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Dak mentioned he got run in from behind.

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<v Speaker 1>He did well, he did, but the guy had to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the ball right. He spots it and then

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.199
<v Speaker 1>he moves it again. Why why did he have to

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 1>reposition it like the length of the football? He put

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<v Speaker 1>it down and then brought it back to him. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess what he did after he spotted it. He ran

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<v Speaker 1>behind the defensive line. So just they did not when

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they made that decision. They didn't factor in the ball

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>had to be spotted right, And and I heard criticism

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>who didn't factor in the Cowboys maybe in their timing

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of how long it was going to take to get

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<v Speaker 1>the next play off. But it shouldn't. But it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have mattered because you don't even But why wouldn't they

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<v Speaker 1>as as you practice it, you know the rule right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know that the official has to them

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>said it was going to take that long. Again, that's

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>because when you practice it, you assume he's going to

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>be much quicker than five. I heard people saying that

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>Dak made the mistake. He's got to hand the ball

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to the official, not to his center. There was not

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>an official in sight. Once again, both guys away, both

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.880
<v Speaker 1>guys on the sideline stood there with their foot mark

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and where the ball was. Nobody came in to get

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball. But that's not the job on the side.

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>It's the umpire supposed to come in. That's right. And

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:12.080
<v Speaker 1>it took and I'll mispronounce his name. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>it's our A M O n George, So it's Raymond

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>or Ramone. He took all day to get there, right,

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and then he respots it and by time I thought

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.359
<v Speaker 1>he got chipped up. No, I didn't know what the

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>heck he was doing. He was fifty and so and

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>so nobody there was nobody to hand the ball too.

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>So he hands it. To be honest, everybody gets lined

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>up and this guy doesn't show up till three seconds.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>By time he respotted it got out of the way.

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>They didn't get the snap off right. But McCarthy said

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 1>that you know how, they had the alternative officials on

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>the sideline, both sidelines, two on each. They basically immediately

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>told him that that's going to get respotted. They'll reset

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the clock to one second. And they didn't do it. Okay,

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>so they got no call down from the replay referee,

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 1>they got no call from New York. And when Alex

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Kemp was asked if any of those things happened, he said, no,

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>we discussed it on the field. Well, they didn't discuss

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>it for long because the next thing we heard is

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>the game is over. Yeah, with no explanation. He gave

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>a better explanation for the punt hitting the video board

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>than he did at the end of the game. He says,

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 1>very unusual play. Yeah, I think I never heard anyone

0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>say that, wow, you know, announcing a call. So when

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>they asked him, there was no replay assist or from

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.719
<v Speaker 1>New York. That is correct. That's handled on the by

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the officials on the field. And when he was asked,

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>when the umpire is that far away, should he have

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>been closer, he said, we're trailing the play, keeping proper

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.719
<v Speaker 1>distance so that we can identify files if there are any.

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Once the play is over, the umpire immediately goes to

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the spot of the ball, and that's what we did.

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>That is not a freaking answer. That is not an answer.

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>That's not what you did, like he was gonna call

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>a penalty twenty five yards, or that's the way you write.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>That's the way you write down an answer. That's a multiple,

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>multiple choice answer. You know what, we know what you're

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do. That is not what you did. If

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>you're that far away, you just can't beat in a

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>timely fashion. When you practice that, you assume that the

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>umpire right is going to be there. All you worry

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>about is what your teammates do, what's coming from the sideline,

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>from your coach, that's all you worry about. You don't

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>worry about. Oh, let me get out of the way,

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 1>because now the umpire is going to come up three

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>seconds later. If Dad had waited, he'd have been holding

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball, like come on, okay, well yeah, yeah, I

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. I have to get the next call.

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I have to make sure my guys are lined up.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>We assume that you do your job and in a

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>timely fashion, because of course we're working against the clock. Also,

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't be the reason for the delay. All Star

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>crew and they saw everything, and I know that much.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I tell you, how many did we get fourteen again, fourteen?

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>How magic number? Got A couple other will go over

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>what's your understanding on have you ever talked to coaches

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>about through the years about this scenario and how much

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>time typically you want on the clock or what's that

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>cut off the number, the number of seconds on the

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 1>clock in order to be able to run a play

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of this duration get lined up and be able to

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>clock it. I thought they were right at their threshold

0:29:57.120 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>for enough time all right for me. I think I

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 1>remember him once saying seventeen seconds was the cutoff, and

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>they were at fourteen. They were at fourteen, And it

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like it was they ran a play and they're

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>at fourteen. It was a it was stopped clock. They

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>knew that they had fourteen, right, you know what? I

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 1>remember going all the way back to the Jay Novacheck

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>play against Bill Belichick's Cleveland Browns in nineteen ninety four

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.160
<v Speaker 1>where you got stopped on the goal. I remember at

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>that point talking to coaches what's that threshold? And I

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>have always thought this ever since nineteen ninety four, the

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>threshold was sixteen seconds. That's my issue with this play

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>call it. I love the concept of it, it's the

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>amount of time left on the clock and you and

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>you can run it as many times as you want

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>to run it in practice, and you cannot simulate that

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>situation right there because of the adrenaline, I mean, the

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>stress that's on everybody involved, including Plus. And that's the

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>other thing is Plus, the most important person in the equation,

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>is not at your practice to simulate right exactly. And

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>so that's the issue that I had with running that play.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And so you're at the forty yard line, would you

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>have done that all? Hell mary? Well, I'm looking at

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>in that situation because of what they were doing on

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the sideline and so forth. You have to throw to

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.479
<v Speaker 1>the end zone and maybe you get two shots at

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the end zone from the forty. But I love the

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>concept if you've got sixteen seconds. I don't when you

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>got fourteen seconds, because this kind of thing happens. And

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Dak said they had two plays already to go. One

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>was five guys down the field and then the other

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>one was a hell Mary from and from the twenty five.

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>The hell Mary's a little more realistic, right, Yeah. So,

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and I know you got my my column probably just

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>got posted. But the lead to my story was about

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the last seconds, and I said, my imagination had run wild.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Either they were going to get forty six years later,

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the second hill Mary of their career to win the

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>game from the forty, or from the twenty four the

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>tight end was going to catch the catch two in

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>the end zone to win. I would call it, and

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>neither one panned out. And so I ended my column

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>with a little Michael Jackson, just my imagination running away

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>with that, temptations. Yeah, yeah, Michael Jackson saying it. I

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>thought he did. I think he did his own temptations.

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Temptations did it? So you know the other thing that

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I was when I heard McCarthy talking about it after

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>the game and he liked the idea of the five

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>verticals to the end zone rather than a hail mary.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I wondered your your call. Going all the way back

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to training camp and Dack's injury and training camp, my

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>understanding is that they had come throwing a hail mary

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and the back the back injury, and so I wondered

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>how much they have actually practiced the hail mary passed

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>due to the fact, obviously you don't want that to

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>happen again to your quarterback, the most important player on

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the team and so which might have given them more

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>comfort in because it's it's still even the five vertical

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>thing to the end zone. I mean, what are your

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>chances of completing it? You know when you've got everybody

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in the end Yeah, right, right, So, anyway, that just

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>thought crossed my mind. I was trying to remember if

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>they even had to throw a hell Mary this year. Well,

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>if there have been times, there have been times. This

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>isn't the first time I've thought this this year. There

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 1>have been times where they were in position and they

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>run the lateral play instead, And at those times I thought,

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they want back to throw a hill Mary, which,

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>by the way, that play was gonna work. How is it? Well, okay,

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>can I get this play done? Right? Here? The best

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>play that never had? All right, here's what you're interest.

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Instead of the back draw, run the Cedric Wilson over

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>the middle, throw it out a bounds play. Dude, what oh,

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>run the Cedric Wilson throw it out a bounds play. Well,

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you mean, I don't think what they ran aloradier in

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the game. They didn't. I don't think you could do

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that on purpose. Though you run the same play you

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>got Tony Poller going, I didn't get penalized on that,

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>throw it behind him. Yeah, I mean just doing inaccurate

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>past to Tony Pollard on the sideline because it get

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>interesting and get intercepted because they're defending the sideline anyway.

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Now you can just throw it out of bounds. You're saying,

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:56.359
<v Speaker 1>that's what they did or can't be and you can't

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>say there you were, you were grounding the ball because

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>you throw it beh Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a backwards pass. We need to talk to Kellen Moore

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>about that set like those, I mean actually completed one time,

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>but that would have been the one time. That would

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.919
<v Speaker 1>have been the one time the play would have worked, say,

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 1>because then you would have had you could have run

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>that ten yards down fifteen yards down field. Cedric Wilson

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 1>throws it to Tony Pollard incomplete out of bounds. How

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>many taloon does that play take from fourteen seconds? Well,

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>so you're nine seconds now you can do it again

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and now you're you're at the fifteen yard line. You

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>can take your shot at the year zone. Well, the

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>fact the fact that we are in the fact that

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>we're talked about low percentage plays. That means that we

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>did something wrong to get to that play. That's right,

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's the point to that point. How about this,

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in the last eight minutes of that game, Okay, Cowboys

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>pulled her within twenty three seventeen with eight to two

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>left in the game. And what does San Francisco do

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>on their next possession. They accumulate three first downs and

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>they run five minutes and seconds off the clock. Yeah, okay,

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>if you don't want to be in this position where

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you're having to stop them, yeah, stop them and don't

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 1>commit the penalties. I believe the penalties. That's right. We

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>have penalties on the hand, by the way, yeah, Osa

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 1>with a whole defensive holding and oh, we gotta do

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>that next. And I'll just set it up with I've

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.680
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0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>ever had a defensive lineman called it for the first

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're gonna have to go to our hurry up, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>real quickly. I wanted to give a shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Tired Archer. He was the Pro Football Writers Association pool reporter,

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.839
<v Speaker 1>and I've had to do this before several times, go

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>into that officiating locker room and ask them questions about

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>something that was sort of off kilter. He hung in

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<v Speaker 1>there and got nine questions asked. I think when I

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<v Speaker 1>got to four and I wasn't getting anywhere, I just

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<v Speaker 1>threw my hands up said I'm done. At Texas Stadium,

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>the locker room for the officials was very small. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt like you were in one of those old Jimmy

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<v Speaker 1>Cagney movies back in the forties in a hotel room

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<v Speaker 1>in New York when you can go like this and

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>hit both walls standing up. That's the visual that I

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>actually have. And they're all so you got a recorder

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 1>in your hand, The official head official head referees got one,

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and then there's an NFL person with one, so you

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>got three recorders going, and all the other guys are

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>shooting daggers at you right because they're all looking and

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>they call the official up that made the play. So

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>they're intimidating the hell out of you, right, and then

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you ask a question and you get these little short

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>empire empires answers, like was the umpire in where he

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be the umpire spotted the ball properly? Right?

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>They give you all these little short question answers, right,

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.879
<v Speaker 1>and you can't get anywhere because they're so defensive. Right,

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:49.240
<v Speaker 1>there's no discussion whatsoever. But anyway, I give Todd credit

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>ESPN Dallas for hanging in there and continuing to ask

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the questions. Did he get the good answers? Just to

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>be clearer, there was oh replay assist or call from

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 1>New York on this play that is correct, that is

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>handled by the officials on the field. Would that been

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>something that should have been looked at before the call

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>of the game was ended? Or once you called the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game, it's the end of the game.

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>That's the end of the game. Once we confirmed it

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<v Speaker 1>with the officials on the field. That sounds like he's

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<v Speaker 1>in court. Oh absolutely yeah. So anyway, good job by him.

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 1>He tried to get something out of him more than

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the standard answers. All right, was the defensive holding, defensive

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>holding twice, like Everson I said, I think in the break.

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Hadn't seen it called all years. Twice in one game. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to start with the first possession, the

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 1>first play of the game. When they called Randy Gregory

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>for in the neutral zone, Trent Williams moved his left leg.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>He moved it so obvious. I wrote down on my

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>notes right here, it's too Samuel, meaning the past arrow,

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>false start, seventy one left tackle false start. Oh nope,

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 1>they called Randy and the neutral zone. Why did they call?

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Why did they stop the play? Why did they whistle

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>it when it's a neutral zone violation? I have no idea,

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:27.720
<v Speaker 1>because he one of the officials must have thought false start.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Then they conferred and the other one overruled him. I

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 1>thought the guy on that sideline called it, and Trent

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Williams moved his foot, his leg, his left leg which

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>was to the official, moved. It's like he twitched it.

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And then that's when Randy jumped right. Randy was already

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>lined up off side, and maybe they thought he was already,

0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>but his foot. Now, I don't know. Do they call

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 1>it if your head's over the line, but not your foot. Yes, okay,

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>well then that's what they call, so that maybe that's

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>what happened, all right, that's that must have been what

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>had happened. The reason that they blew the whistle was

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>because Trent Williams moved it was a false start. But

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the fact that Rand and so the other official from

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the side probably came in and said he was lined up,

0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 1>lined up in the neutral zone and that must be

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the rule on it. Then, well, because the ball was

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on the dates the false start, the ball was on

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the twenty five, and the ball where they were hiking

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>it was just behind the twenty five. And if if

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a false start, the ball hasn't been snapped yet. Correct, correct,

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 1>So doesn't matter where Randy Gregory's lined up at that point.

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Well apparently apparently it does because they called it right

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and then the ball snap, So it doesn't matter where

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Randy is right now? Correct? And then later he didn't jump,

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:50.720
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know, he did not. He was still until

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>he took off when he but he was still and

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 1>he was still in the neutral zone off sides when

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the ball was snapped. But you're saying when the false

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>start on the false start but I assume what what

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the rule must be on it if a guy is

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 1>lined up in the new a defensive player is lined

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:17.240
<v Speaker 1>up off sides and everything, Yeah, that overrules everything. Maybe

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that's it. And then it happened again,

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and the second time, his head was not over the

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage and there was Trent Williams. He was

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>digging his left foot into the ground like yeah, like

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>he was getting ready to go. Yeah, and they didn't

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>call it again. It's like okay. And then they totally

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>botched the delay of game after the fake punt because

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and Tony Romo got it wrong on the on the

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 1>broadcast because Romo was saying, okay, they left the kicking

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 1>team out there because they were trying to get a

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 1>time out from San Francisco. Oh no, they had another

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:09.800
<v Speaker 1>their play that was right, right, and and C. J.

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Goodwin was on the field, by the way, and he

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I think was a former quarterback. He was lined up

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>in the backfield right, yeah, okay, So what happened was

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:24.399
<v Speaker 1>they were going to run a play against their special teams, right,

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 1>they were going to run a play against San Francisco.

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And then and then yeah, what happened was number one

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and I forgot about this. You have a kicking ball.

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 1>So the umpire had to pick up the kicking ball

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and replace it with a regular ball and throw the

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>kicking ball off the field, right. So San Francisco is

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 1>seeing what was going on. They ran their defense back

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>out there, right. Of course, they did the right right

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>now right, it's yeah. So so here's what here's what

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>takes place. They reset the clock after he changed the

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>ball to twenty five seconds. It got down to twenty

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys realized, oh, they got their defense out

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:19.439
<v Speaker 1>there against our twenty five seconds. To realize it took

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it took five seconds, and no, I watched it again,

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't even reset the twenty five second clock

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>for about ten or fifteen seconds. Well, because they had

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to switch out the ball right, and then with twenty

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>seconds left, McQuaid goes, oh, hell, we got to get

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>off the field. So he waves everybody off the field.

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So they had to bring in the offense right. Well,

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 1>they got him in. They made their substitution change and oh, George,

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the umpire is standing over the ball like this, and

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:56.240
<v Speaker 1>he and he waited till three seconds left on the clock.

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 1>To move and they couldn't get the snap off. That

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>was the one that got me that one case, because

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 1>they made a change, and you have to leave time

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>for the opposition to make their change, and even if

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.399
<v Speaker 1>they are making a change, and McCarthy said that he

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was told that they initially said we were making a

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>change and the Cowboys weren't. But they got a cuse

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>for one of the guys on the sideline celebrating and

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>he was on the wrong side of the sideline, and

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>so they were looking at that guy's coming in, so

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>they said, oh, we got to hold it up so

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:37.520
<v Speaker 1>they can make their change. So there it goes all

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you're first and ten at the thirty six,

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I think it was. I have a question on that.

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell the officials in advance should have that

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that we want to use the same ball, the kicking

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>ball on the next plus the only way the should

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>have told him what was coming before the game, and

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>even there before the game, you tell the That's what

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering. You tell you tell the officiating crew if

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 1>we run a fake punt, we want the kicking ball

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.040
<v Speaker 1>on the field, because we're leaving our kicking team on

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the field, we're going to run another play, and on

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the last play they should have told umpire George, this

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>is what we're getting getting ready to do. Be ready

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>to spot the ball right now. Nobody knew they were

0:48:27.400 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>going to do that twenty five yards away. Do you

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>think Dak made the decision to do that. No, that

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>was the plan to run. Yeah, yeah, that was the play.

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>But the reason I say that, I think in his

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 1>postgame comment, I think the verbatim on it. I didn't

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:46.839
<v Speaker 1>hear him say it, but the transcription of it said,

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I decided to do to run the play. Oh. I

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.040
<v Speaker 1>don't remember him saying that. I'll have to go back

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:59.439
<v Speaker 1>and look. But Mike, they basically said they've practiced that right.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. It wasn't like all right, it wasn't

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:05.399
<v Speaker 1>like he drew it up in the sand. Yeah, let

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>me see. I think I headed somewhere. Let's see. Um

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 1>where'd it go? Um? He said, here's the verbatim on it.

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>I made the call knowing that we're going to get

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 1>some yards and get down and I've got to clock it.

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.640
<v Speaker 1>So that which made me think that it was Dak

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 1>on his own who decided to do that. But I

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure, Like he told Kellen Moore, no,

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not running what you called, or they've got a

0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>play called and then he can he saw what was

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 1>open in the middle of the field, and they've practiced it,

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.439
<v Speaker 1>and so there's no Well they lined up that way

0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 1>for the I think the previous two plays. Obviously, that's

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.400
<v Speaker 1>what that's the play you run. I mean to me,

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the play you run. Do you have enough time?

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>That's something you should have taken care of before that play,

0:49:53.360 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>So you don't run the you don't throw to the

0:49:56.320 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>end zone until you have to. I thought they would

0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 1>getting themselves in. They set to get a closer like

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a real play. Yeah, and that I know that was

0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 1>what they're intent. Yeah. Yeah, The question is did they

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>have enough time to do it? Well, yeah, you got

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:13.360
<v Speaker 1>You got no choice. You got no choice, and you

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been in that position to start. All right.

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:20.959
<v Speaker 1>That does it for Well, we went a season six

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:24.799
<v Speaker 1>minutes over. We're gonna be back again tomorrow. That we

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>got the snap off on our last play, that's right.

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>We went overtime here, all right, Cowboys didn't have the

0:50:31.000 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>liberty of having overtime, all right, That does it for

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