Speaker 1: You're tuned into.
Speaker 2: Heat Check, but just stay quick. On this episode of
Speaker 2: the Heat Check, so much poppin. We haven't even had
Speaker 2: to talk about heim Udoka. Now he might be the
Speaker 2: next NETS coach. I keep saying, we're gonna do an
Speaker 2: emergency plow, We're gonna do an emergency pod and I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's gonna be hired.
Speaker 1: So let's just talk about it now, shall we.
Speaker 2: Let's get into Russell Westprook. Give a little love for
Speaker 2: our guy who's leading the clubhouse in six.
Speaker 1: Man of the Year. I don't know twenty four hours
Speaker 1: after a.
Speaker 2: Tweet where I said, hear me out six Man of.
Speaker 1: The Year, how Steven Adams is the strongest man in
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 2: Keep circling every single year, every couple.
Speaker 1: Years, but there's.
Speaker 2: Some funny anecdotes that I thought I would point out.
Speaker 2: Give him some shine and what he thinks is leading
Speaker 2: to how strong he is, which you will never believe
Speaker 2: what it is, never ever expect it. And I guess, really,
Speaker 2: is Kyrie Irving too toxic for any NBA team? Lastly,
Speaker 2: we break down Sam Hauser, who, yeah, exactly the beat
Speaker 2: and the league is on fire, So do me a
Speaker 2: favor Nick and drop that motherfucking beat Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: What can you say? They are in crisis mode.
Speaker 2: We knew that they would be, like we've known this,
Speaker 2: but it's like it just keeps getting worse and then
Speaker 2: I have to talk about it. I turned on ESPN,
Speaker 2: I turned on NBA today, I turned on NBA TV,
Speaker 2: turned on the radio, and all they could talk about
Speaker 2: was Kyrie, Kyrie, Kyrie, Kyrie. Can we stop it? Like
Speaker 2: until we figure out what's going on with the man?
Speaker 2: There's nothing new that's going on in the last four days.
Speaker 2: Kind of feels like it's just a little much. And
Speaker 2: I get it, Like I even I said that it's
Speaker 2: probably one of the biggest stories. And Michael Jordan retiring
Speaker 2: in the middle of his prime, Like I get that.
Speaker 2: Kyrie has already missed two games and there is now
Speaker 2: rumors this week he's going to be meeting with that
Speaker 2: I'm silver, so now the league might get involved.
Speaker 1: And the Nets, by the way.
Speaker 2: Are two to zero since he's been suspended. So that's
Speaker 2: the take that narrative. Huh, what a shit show it is.
Speaker 2: And we have not talked at all at all about
Speaker 2: the Nets apparent plan to bring in former Boston Celtics. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess he's sort of currently still the Boston Celtics
Speaker 2: head coach. He's just on temporary suspension, which we know
Speaker 2: is like a for real forever suspension. But anyway, is
Speaker 2: he the air apparent to take over for the fired
Speaker 2: Steve Nash. A lot of people at one point said
Speaker 2: that he was for those who have been sleeping under
Speaker 2: a rock. Emi Udoka took over for a very multuous
Speaker 2: Boston team. They had a ton of turmoil at the
Speaker 2: start of last year. Why you say, Well, Danny Ainge
Speaker 2: was forced to retire and then come out of unretiring
Speaker 2: to go to the Jazz but he was apparently never
Speaker 2: gonna do anything with the NBA again. Brad Stevens steps down,
Speaker 2: he steps down to step up, He steps down from
Speaker 2: being the head coach, steps up to be in the GM.
Speaker 2: You have the verge of splitting up Jason Tatum and
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown and maybe trading Marcus smart Away.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was uh took over for a.
Speaker 2: Team in disarray and things weren't working well at first.
Speaker 2: In fact, the Celtics were under five hundred at the
Speaker 2: halfway point before before Ema Udokah's plans started really coming
Speaker 2: in the rest of the season. They were probably the
Speaker 2: best team in basketball, made it all the way to
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. They lost in six, as we know,
Speaker 2: to the War. So at that point things could have
Speaker 2: not looked better for Boston or for Udoka. And then boom,
Speaker 2: all the rumors swirling, the reports about the trouble in Boston,
Speaker 2: and then out of the blue, the Celtics announced they
Speaker 2: were suspending him for the entire season and that Joe
Speaker 2: Missoula Joe Mohula would be taking over. So it was
Speaker 2: a consensual affair with a married Celtics employee. There was
Speaker 2: an investigation, as we know, discovered that he had also
Speaker 2: used crude language before the start of their improper relationship.
Speaker 2: Oh you mean sexting?
Speaker 1: You mean that?
Speaker 2: Then the affair was reportedly discovered by the husband via
Speaker 2: ring doorbell camera. The husband allegedly also worked for the
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics.
Speaker 1: Important wrinkle to note, which.
Speaker 2: Let's face a very very unexpected way to get caught cheating,
Speaker 2: is a conversation via ring Hey baby is sis Udoka?
Speaker 2: Hey open up the doors. Wait, he wasn't just bringing
Speaker 2: over his travel plants, So yeah, Udoka has been quiet.
Speaker 2: There's been an apology and tower Joe Sai enter the
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets, Nash gets fired immediately the rumor bringing Udoka.
Speaker 2: He's the only one that they're looking at. That's what
Speaker 2: Sean said. It's all a done deal. And then all
Speaker 2: the Kyrie shit happened, and now it's like ooh ooh.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's hard to keep up though really with what's going on.
Speaker 2: So he was not introduced as the new head coach,
Speaker 2: and now we know why. According to Mark stein Leaks,
Speaker 2: sources say that there have been some strong voices urging
Speaker 2: Josi to back off of the Nets' intention to hire
Speaker 2: suspended Celtics coach Ema Udoka, considerable given the considerable turmoil
Speaker 2: Brooklyn has already faced this season. So it seems like
Speaker 2: this hiring is now on hold.
Speaker 1: I have thoughts two things.
Speaker 2: One before we get into it, I have two things
Speaker 2: that I must disclose. Number one, this is November seven,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. I have not heard any news. So
Speaker 2: if there are news that comes out the e may Udoka,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna.
Speaker 2: Put it out under the ether, but that it was
Speaker 2: a non consensual relationship in any way that changes things. Two,
Speaker 2: I am from Portland, Oregon. I lived I grew up
Speaker 2: like a mile away from emay Udoka. Not a lot
Speaker 2: of people that grew up in Portland raised to the
Speaker 2: heights of ime Udoka. So there's there probably is some
Speaker 2: bias here. He and his two assistants went to the
Speaker 2: same uh well, his two assistants went to the same
Speaker 2: middle school as me. Damon Stoddamyer Portland legend was there
Speaker 2: much before I was. Aaron Miles, my guy grew up
Speaker 2: with him, went to the same middle school at the
Speaker 2: same time. He was a legend and Orland in the
Speaker 2: high school ranks as well. So yeah, I was a
Speaker 2: fan of hiring, I was a fan of the success,
Speaker 2: and I was a fan of my hometown doing something
Speaker 2: of good. So this leads me to this what Ima
Speaker 2: Yudoka did, because I think there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: who think that he should never coach again, that what
Speaker 2: he did was so egregious that he should just never
Speaker 2: be allowed. And there's media members that say he's probably done.
Speaker 2: What he did was dumb.
Speaker 1: Obviously you don't.
Speaker 2: First of all, you can't get caught on a ring camera,
Speaker 2: right He just like you. Obviously shouldn't have been at
Speaker 2: someone's house that works in the organization and is married.
Speaker 2: We know that that broke a bunch of not only
Speaker 2: cardinal sins, you know, smashing at somebody else's crib that's
Speaker 2: not good, but also organizational rules as well. And to
Speaker 2: that end, he was punished to the letter of the
Speaker 2: law about it, severely as you could be punished by
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics. Did not commit a crime as far
Speaker 2: as I know, and he didn't break any laws. But
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, he's being treated like some criminal because
Speaker 2: nobody thinks he should coach anywhere. Ever, again, consensual relationship
Speaker 2: with someone inside the Boston Celtics. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck that has to do with the Brooklyn Nets.
Speaker 2: What does that have to do with them? What does
Speaker 2: that girl, that woman have to do with the Nets?
Speaker 2: Does did he break any NETS protocol? No, no laws,
Speaker 2: no NETS protocol, Boston rules, gets severely punished to the
Speaker 2: letter of the law in the Boston system.
Speaker 1: How much more punishment does he deserve? What else is
Speaker 1: there to do?
Speaker 2: If you were a CEO, you're the man in charge
Speaker 2: for Microsoft, and you fuck around with an engineer on
Speaker 2: your team or on and the end is married and
Speaker 2: you get and it's against the protocol for Microsoft. What
Speaker 2: does that have to do with Apple? If Apple wants
Speaker 2: to hire you?
Speaker 1: Nothing has nothing.
Speaker 2: You just can't work in the NBA. Again, just can't
Speaker 2: work in tech ever. Again, I don't understand it. I
Speaker 2: don't understand it. It would if he was to do
Speaker 2: the exact same thing working in Brooklyn with the woman
Speaker 2: in Boston, same woman, same smash. Now there's no rules broken.
Speaker 2: It only applies inside of the Boston universe. I get
Speaker 2: the hierarchical nature of you know, not messing around with subordinates.
Speaker 2: How it looks, how power dynamics work. I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: something controversial. As a woman, I know that there are
Speaker 2: women who are young in their careers who find power
Speaker 2: very attractive. They do not. That is not a thing
Speaker 2: where they believe they're going up the ladder. They're just
Speaker 2: more to you now that you have that power. Is
Speaker 2: it possible that she pursued e may Udoka. He's a
Speaker 2: good looking dude. He's engaged in me along. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but not all that to say, none of us should
Speaker 2: disqualify him from being the head coach of the Nets
Speaker 2: and women who are apparently coming forward within the net
Speaker 2: Nets organization somehow believe that I may Udoka is some
Speaker 2: sort of predator. They're making him out like, what does
Speaker 2: this mean for women? What does that even mean?
Speaker 1: What does this mean for women?
Speaker 2: He was a former assistant for the Nets. He's got
Speaker 2: a deep understanding of the workings of the team. He
Speaker 2: has a personal relationship with Katie and Kyrie. He was
Speaker 2: the only thing keeping that defense together when he was
Speaker 2: the assistant of the Brooklyn Nets. He's a defensive minded coach.
Speaker 2: The Brooklyn Nets need a defensive minded coach. The Boston
Speaker 2: Celtics had their defense turned around with the wonky roster
Speaker 2: in his first year, became the number one defense in
Speaker 2: the NBA. So yeah, I understand that it's not great optics,
Speaker 2: but you gotta win some games, baby, you gotta win
Speaker 2: some games. Reports today by Mark Stein claim that there
Speaker 2: are strong voices that Stein referred to that are advising
Speaker 2: against the hiring that were not just female employees for
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets, but possibly Adam Silver, who is reportingly
Speaker 2: stepping in on this as well.
Speaker 1: I don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 2: I don't I really don't.
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 2: It's like he's damaged goods and there's a stain on
Speaker 2: him right now and he's still serving the suspension for
Speaker 2: the crime. Right. I know that there are gonna be
Speaker 2: women with serious questions because that there are rumors that
Speaker 2: have not been addressed. But like, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, consensual relationship with a female employee, does that
Speaker 2: crime fit the punishment of losing your entire career when
Speaker 2: you're pretty good at that thing. No, no, it does not.
Speaker 1: I do not think that is fair. I do not
Speaker 1: think that is right.
Speaker 2: And I do not think that we as human beings
Speaker 2: can sit up here and be on our little high
Speaker 2: horse pretending like we don't do anything in our personal
Speaker 2: lives that could potentially jeopardize us in our professional setting.
Speaker 2: And if I do something here at Odyssey, does that
Speaker 2: mean that I can't work for Westwood One, I can't
Speaker 2: work for iHeart, I can't do a podcast with Spotify?
Speaker 1: What the fuck? I do not understand. There has not been.
Speaker 2: Any reporting that Emai Udoka did anything other than have
Speaker 2: a consensual relationship. And until that reporting comes out that's
Speaker 2: valid and ironclad, then that's the information that we have
Speaker 2: to go on, He's already been removed of being a
Speaker 2: head coach of a team that's currently the odds on
Speaker 2: favorite to win the time. How much worse can it get?
Speaker 1: Honestly, don't you guys think like?
Speaker 2: Truthly, him taking this job is the punishment. Taking the
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets job is the punishment you went from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: You went from Boston Celtics odds on favorite to win
Speaker 2: the title to this fucking dumpster fire. That's your punishment.
Speaker 2: You are now the head coach of the Brooklyn Nets. Congratulations,
Speaker 2: I mean, come on now, this is a team. He
Speaker 2: needs a redemption arc ARC. They need a redemption arc.
Speaker 2: Perfect fit to me, It makes Brooklyn the perfect job
Speaker 2: for Emai Udoka and email Udoka the perfect man for
Speaker 2: the job.