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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. I'm look Thomas.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. We are getting that updated. That

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Speaker 2: is a thing that's actually happening.

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Speaker 1: How you know, I grow fond of it.

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Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, this is aar Hello everyone, welcome on this

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Speaker 2: second day of February twenty twenty six for another edition

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Speaker 2: of Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: I am nearly one half of your hosting duo. My

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Speaker 1: name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I joined you from the capital of the status needles

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Speaker 2: right here in Washington, DC with my Connecticut brethren Chuck

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Speaker 2: the Iceman Minden hall Iceman. Do you guys have the

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Speaker 2: same problem that we have the snow creete It is

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Speaker 2: blocking everything now.

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Speaker 3: I saw you tweet something along the lines of You've

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Speaker 3: never seen anything like this in the in all of

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Speaker 1: Is this true? Never?

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Speaker 2: Never, not even nothing even approximating this. This is the

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Speaker 2: most insane thing I've ever seen in my life here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we've had it. I feel like we've had

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, there's just the from Star Wars, the ice planet.

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Speaker 2: Try to explain to people. It's like living inside of

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Speaker 2: We're like there's ice everywhere and you're trying to get

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Speaker 2: now because the plows have gone through, they've pushed that

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Speaker 1: With an excavation crew.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're just gonna get your car brat back

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Speaker 2: in April or May. That's just you're not driving essentially

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just completely unusual for that.

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Speaker 2: it has destroyed everything. It's been quite a nightmare. However, however,

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're gonna get to the Combat Sports weekend

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Speaker 2: that we had, namely the second event in the Paramount

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Speaker 2: Era UFC three twenty five took place down in Sydney, Australia.

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Speaker 2: Will lead the show with that as well as get

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Speaker 2: to that Corse Stevenson masterclass your questions.

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Speaker 1: And then a new game.

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Speaker 2: And so in order to introduce that, let's bring in

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Speaker 2: the third member here of the party, to my friend

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Speaker 2: and yours. It's Long Island, Luke, Long Island, Luke. What's

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Speaker 4: We're playing Eskimo Brothers. And you know it might not

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Speaker 4: be what you think. You know, we're not talking Dana

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Speaker 1: So it'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: You guys will have to be not two guys who

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Speaker 4: They may or may not have. I cannot conform nor deny,

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Speaker 4: I mean like is a strong word. I I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: I've realized I can retain new information, but only if

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Speaker 2: I think it drops off from me after that. Let's

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Speaker 2: it for me as well as Chuck. On top of it, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: Y'll start it, man, Let's just get rolling here. Let's

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Speaker 2: As I indicated, in the main event of UFC three

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Speaker 3: Not a lot, And I know that we talked a

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Speaker 2: Man, it was a waste of time. It was a

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Speaker 1: Also, he was switching to.

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Speaker 3: And I it's almost like he's doing it just because

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Speaker 2: And it just I'm telling you, like, no one in

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's true. Now does he?

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Speaker 3: Does he get classified in the dawncottic category? Because I

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Speaker 1: Well that plays into our cut way come back? When

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Speaker 1: And plus Volk's not gonna last forever.

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, if the UFC's plan, and

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Speaker 3: So it feels like if if that was the plan

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Speaker 3: And the matchmakers themselves, I'm like, that's it was a

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Speaker 2: Also, what's kind of interesting to me is they again

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Speaker 2: terms of the title fight victories at featherweight. I'm not

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Speaker 2: asking you to compare him to Aldo unless you feel

437
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 2: like you want to. But I guess what I would

438
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 2: say is we were talking like what did it mean.

439
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 1: For this victory? And I don't know how to answer that.

440
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 2: However, you know there is some kind of declaration or

441
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 2: at least an additional declaration of quality here.

442
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,560
Speaker 1: How do you assess this kind of.

443
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 2: Milestone in matching Aldo at least numerically in terms of

444
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 2: title fight wins.

445
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 3: It was the toughest part about it for Volkanovski, who

446
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 3: actually handled it like a pro.

447
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 1: Right.

448
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,160
Speaker 3: They kind of go into a thankless task of saying, like, hey,

449
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 3: do it again, show your work. We want to see

450
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 3: that you you know that you can do this a

451
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 3: second time. There's only one guy with huge motivation that

452
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 3: can come into this situation, which would be Diego who

453
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 3: gets the second chance to right or wrong and like

454
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 3: not have to live with his loss, but to back

455
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 3: it up and do it again. There's something like there's

456
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 3: something to be said about that because as you know,

457
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 3: like GSP for instance, had to guard against his own

458
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 3: complacency like where you're you're It's one of those things

459
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,760
Speaker 3: like to stay up there, man, you need to meet

460
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: the hunger of all of these guys who are coming

461
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 3: for you, and sometimes you need to double that effort.

462
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: And you hear things like him being of Volkanowski having

463
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 3: an injury with his shoulder, you.

464
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 1: Know, four months out, but still sticking it through.

465
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 3: I mean, his resolve, if nothing else, is as solid

466
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 3: as any champion we've ever seen.

467
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 1: And uh, I think as a full package.

468
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 3: When you look at it with the numbers, the resumes

469
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 3: if you compare him to a guy like Josie Aldo,

470
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 3: who's stuck around for a long time and beat a

471
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 3: lot of good guys, it starts to favor Volkanovsky. Even

472
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 3: if you want to make the argument of Aldough and

473
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: all that, that's fine, But like it starts to favor

474
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 3: of Volklinovski, this one doesn't make a huge leap. That's

475
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 3: the only problem, right, Like, even in a pound for

476
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 3: pound discussion, what do you do with it? Well, we

477
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 3: already had the evidence that he's better than Diego, So

478
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 3: how do you move him up or what do you

479
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: do with him? It's it was kind of a thinkless task.

480
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 3: But I think for guys like us man to just

481
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 3: see him and be reminded of how good he is

482
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 3: at thirty seven years old, it moves it. It moves

483
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 3: it a little bit, you know what I mean. It

484
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 3: moves it a little bit. But I don't know what

485
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: it does in the general public, to be honest, But

486
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,479
Speaker 3: hopefully it sets up whatever whoever he faces next, if

487
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: it's a Laron or if it's a Mozar, or whoever

488
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: it is, it at least sets up a you know,

489
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 3: it sets up a big feel for the fight, a.

490
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: Bad weekend for the Lopezes, whether your Lopez ends with

491
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: an S or a Z. If you look at the

492
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 2: boxing side of things too, what happened to Mario Lopez something? No, No,

493
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 2: he might kid.

494
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: Have been all right.

495
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 2: But but my point is is like if you just

496
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: look at Shaquar Stevenson and you look at Vulcan, I mean,

497
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: they're both good athletes, obviously, and Vulcan is a pretty

498
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: physical athlete despite you know, being smaller and stature relatively speaking.

499
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: But that's really not why they win. It's not why

500
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: they win.

501
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: They win because they manipulate the conditions of fighting themselves

502
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: to stack the deck so that the house basically always wins.

503
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: That's kind and then you have to change that in

504
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: order to have an opportunity. So everyone's like, oh, Ilia's

505
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: got big power.

506
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: Ilia didn't.

507
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: Ilia's big power didn't mean anything until he had backed

508
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: him up and controlled him.

509
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: That was it.

510
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: Otherwise it's absolutely worthless. Let's take a look very quickly

511
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: at Volk's resume. I think we have a graphic for this,

512
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: and this is a pretty good UFC career obviously, you're

513
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: losing to Makachev, you're losing to to Ilia, Okay, and

514
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: those are not great, But dude, look at the rest

515
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: of these names. These are not bullshit names. Even all

516
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: the way down chuck to the bottom row, there's still

517
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: some good names on there.

518
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, Chad Mendez.

519
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, like obviously he's kind of older

520
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: at this one, but I mean just the Halloway thing,

521
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 3: because some of these fights, you know, they age really

522
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 3: well because you look at Halloway where he's at right now.

523
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: Halloway is still doing it at a high level, and

524
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: you know, to kind of those victories and sometimes guys

525
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 3: have Guy's number, But like Halloway is a thinking man too,

526
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 3: Like he goes in there and he has a very

527
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: good game plan. He sticks to it. His stand up

528
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: is boxing everything that he does to kind of like

529
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: master a guy like Halloway through three flights. I mean

530
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: that alone. I mean, it's just it's like the stuff

531
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: of anybody. Like if you have a legacy that you

532
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: beat Holloway three times in and basically his prime, that's

533
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: going to hold up over the course of time.

534
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: We have a clip here from Volkanovsky talking about what

535
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: should be next for him. I think, now we know

536
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be the winner of this UFC London

537
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: main event. But nevertheless, I want to react to something

538
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: he says here, do.

539
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 5: I keep going to make them light just you know? Again,

540
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 5: so I've got a responsibility. I talk about having a

541
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 5: responsibility as a champion. I don't think enough champions look

542
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 5: at it that way. For me, I'll look at as

543
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 5: his responsibility. There's rankings for raisist people that deserve it.

544
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 5: If someone does get in, I'll be active enough to

545
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 5: still give the people that deserve it a chance anyway,

546
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 5: so I don't have to waite too long. But I mean,

547
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 5: if I'm just gonna keep letting other people just cut

548
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 5: the lawn, I'm not really to do, ma Padavis, I'll

549
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 5: talk to you what they say again, I'm an easy team.

550
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 5: I stand to Dan. If the UFA just push it

551
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 5: over whatever, all right, But but uh, we'll see what happens.

552
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: I like what he says there because on the one hand,

553
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm a company guy. I'll put whoever they

554
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: want in front of me. But he kind of takes

555
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 2: ownership over it. I mean, like, oh, if I let

556
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: these guys cut the line. To me, that's him telling

557
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: UFC please quit letting these guys cut the line, except

558
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: he's doing it in a way where he takes responsibility

559
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: for it. I actually have to say, I I don't

560
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: know how much control he actually has.

561
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. I know he can

562
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: decline fights or whatnot.

563
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: But I do hope that they finally it seems like

564
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: they will, based on the booking of this London main event,

565
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: that they finally recognize it's a waste of this fucking

566
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: guy's time whatever's left of it, to be doing fights

567
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: like this.

568
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 3: No, I agree one hundred percent. You know, it was

569
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: weird his coach had said something if Okanovski's coach had

570
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: said something before him, like do I necessarily want to

571
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: see him beaten, like going up against these guys like Larone,

572
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: you know, like these guys are all coming up for him,

573
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: the younger guys now, or do I want to see

574
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: him in like some super fights like BMF type things,

575
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: And he was like, I kind of prefer the latter.

576
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: Did you hear that? Like there was like some interview

577
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: with his coach, uh who the same coach that we

578
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: were just talking Aboutez. Yeah, I believe it was Joe

579
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: Lopez and did not see that. There was a little

580
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: bit of a nod like almost where you're like, does

581
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: he know something? Maybe he knew that's the shoulder thing.

582
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like you think back on that

583
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: now and I'm like, I wonder because I think some

584
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: people read into it like maybe he didn't have it anymore,

585
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 3: but obviously that's not the case. But I think it's

586
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 3: awesome when a when a champion reaches this level and

587
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 3: he wants the meritocracy, he wants the guys who are

588
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: her meant to be there, because we've seen it a

589
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: million times where a champion gets up there and gets

590
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: very finicky, very fast, because they just they want to

591
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: they want to kind of pick and choose their opponents.

592
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: You never got that sense with Volkanowski, and I think

593
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: that's another thing you have to consider when you when

594
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: you look at his legacy. In the end, it's just

595
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: I feel like he was up for any challenge and

596
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: really under any circumstance, because I don't think he says

597
00:25:58,680 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: no to fights.

598
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: Footwork, boys and girls, footwork, your jab and your footwork.

599
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: Is the stuff of kings.

600
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: Speaking of footwork, Diego couldn't use much of.

601
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: His Yeah, yeah, he broke apparently both of his feet.

602
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: The caption reads some nights that if you're for folks

603
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: who listening on the audio platform, it's a picture of

604
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: Diego in a hospital of some kind. He's smiling, but

605
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: the caption reads, some nights you're at the after party,

606
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: some nights you're at the er. But every morning I

607
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: give thanks for the opportunity to live this life with

608
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: my best friends at Diego Lopez MMA. And his feet

609
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 2: are all red and busted up.

610
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 3: I'm guessing where his arms like that, it's like a

611
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: doll sitting there on a shell for something.

612
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: Maybe he was reaching for a hug. I don't know,

613
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: could have been want to give everyone a big hug.

614
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: I'll say this like, I don't know if it was

615
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: his kicking technique that was off, or if he mismanaged

616
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: range and he's hitting with the top of the end

617
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: step as opposed to the shin and that's why I

618
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: got that way.

619
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

620
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: It's it's not the end of it. He apparently does

621
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: not need surgery, which is the good news. He can

622
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: kind of what do you do with him next?

623
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: Like if you're this is the problem, right, Like you've

624
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: put you fed him into this the situation the second time,

625
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: and now you know his situation becomes more complicated, like

626
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: he's not going to be right there even if he

627
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: wins the next fight. I mean, as long as Wolkonowsky

628
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: has that title, I can't imagine he's going to be

629
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 3: fighting for that again.

630
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: So you have a couple of options. So you've got

631
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 2: Mosar and larone that's respectively one in four they're locked up.

632
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: I guess now for this London main event, which again

633
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: a good idea. Two and three is an interesting one

634
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: because two is Diego. Three is Yayi Rodriguez, who I believe,

635
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: if memory serves, they have beef with one another. Yes,

636
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: uh Al Jamaine is sitting there at five and then

637
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: jay On R. John Silva is sitting at six. You

638
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: could do a silver rematch if you want to.

639
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't.

640
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 2: I don't really want to do that. I'd rather get

641
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: some fresh, fresh matchups in there. But I like that

642
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: Yayi Rodriguez fight.

643
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: Same here.

644
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: I think a lot of lam dunk, right, like it's

645
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: slam dunk. If they want to do that, they should

646
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: have already done it. This should have probably been the

647
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: fight he shouldn't have. You know, if they if you

648
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: rematch make this thing instead of the title of that,

649
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: that would have been the fight. So I feel like

650
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: now that should be the fight to make Long Island Luke.

651
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: Any thoughts about who Diego should fight next?

652
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: I think it should be here. But just back to

653
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: the Vulcan situation real quick. Is there a world where

654
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 4: a Larone versus Movsar is just a dud?

655
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: Yes?

656
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: B time, Well, I know there's a world where that is.

657
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: But B in the next month and a half, the

658
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: UFC just books Volkanovski John Silva, Like, is there a

659
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: world that they just put John Silva in there regardless

660
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 4: of what happens in that matchup.

661
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: It's a good question.

662
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: So I know John Silva has been barking about it

663
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 2: on social media literally marking uh.

664
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: I think that the only thing is now that UFC

665
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: may want to book that fight because we know that

666
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: they we know that they're not trying to expedite either

667
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: one of these guys that are fighting in London. But

668
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: would it take away from the London in itself if

669
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: you didn't have some kind of even false thingling Carrot

670
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: that this is possibly for the title, right, Like, I

671
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: feel like, if you're so in that fight and that's

672
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: what you're going to like that's the main event, you

673
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: probably want that possibility to be in play that it's

674
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: for the title. But I'm not saying because we just

675
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: saw this with arm and Serukian, you know, when he's

676
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: fighting Dan Hooker and there's kind it's kind of promises

677
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: dangling out there and they just go a cold different direction.

678
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the UFC wouldn't still go with Silva,

679
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: but I think that they want the illusion at least

680
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: that this this next fight would be for the title,

681
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean?

682
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yes?

683
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I guess we'll see what happens in the end.

684
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: It was a reminder of Lopez not being completely out

685
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: of the title picture or even exciting fights, but just

686
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: simply not being up to snuff. While even a hobbled

687
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: it appeared anyway, Vulk is still vastly better than the

688
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: rest of the pack. If they catch him, it's only

689
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: going to be from fragility or father time or something else.

690
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: But they're certainly not going to outthink him, as you

691
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: can see here Chuck has a tweet. You get the

692
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: sense that if they fought ten times, Vulk would confound

693
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: it outclass Lopez every time. He just couldn't come up

694
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: with answers. That is basically the story of the fight.

695
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: He was not up to task.

696
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: I think the problem was this was your suspicion going

697
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 3: into this fight, right like, we had this whole discussion.

698
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: This was something that you made. You were very prominent

699
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: about Zake.

700
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: It's basically saying like, I'm not sure that he will

701
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: have the answers, and he didn't, and so when you

702
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: see it a second time, that's why it feels like

703
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: a waste in the end.

704
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: Well, the last thing for me is we now have

705
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: two cases where we have rematches nine or ten months apart.

706
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: You have the O'Malley one with Morob and now this one.

707
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: And what did the UFC get from this? I mean,

708
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 2: I guess Morob got the finish and that looked kind

709
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: of cool for Morob, So there's something to be said

710
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: for that, but not nothing. Really, It didn't meaningly add

711
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: much to what we could have done. So I appreciate

712
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: how good Volk is, but I don't know.

713
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: It seemed like it was all the choices that they

714
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: could have gone with.

715
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: All Right, topic number two, let's talk about that co

716
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: main event, which was fun, a little bit interesting, a

717
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: little bit weird, and whant Saint Denis. He stops Dan

718
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: Hooker in round to via TKO, and he's surely BSD

719
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: going to get a bigger name from this opponent, Chuck,

720
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: But do you have any concerns about his ultimate upside?

721
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: Here's what I mean. In the first round, he's kind

722
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: of getting picked apart. Dan Hooker's doing a pretty good

723
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: job for the most part of staying on his feet,

724
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: and even when he got taken down in the first round,

725
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: it didn't appear to be super costly. He does get

726
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: taken down in the second because he inadvisably goes for

727
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: a takedown and then gets reversed, which I don't know

728
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: what the hell he.

729
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: Was thinking was.

730
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: But he looked pretty good and BSD was just kind

731
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: of reaching for stuff, so he gets the win. He

732
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: looks good on the ground. He's gonna move up the

733
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: food chain. But this is one of those fights, Chuck,

734
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: where I watched it, I'm like, I have questions about.

735
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: This guy still big time man, because what you tell

736
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: me because like I watched this and that. The problem

737
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: with Ben Want Saint Denia is he always looks far

738
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: more incautious than he should because he basically it's almost

739
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: like he starts to ignore any incoming danger. Like he'll

740
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 3: just start to go for takedowns and he'll take a

741
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: shot or two while he's doing that, or he'll just

742
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: start moving forward as if he's kind of activated, like

743
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: I gotta just go crush this sky. I gotta go

744
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: crush this guy. We've seen it a couple of times.

745
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he put a pace on Dustin Poorier in

746
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: that first round where he was getting you know, he

747
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 3: was getting clear, there was the standing gilly and all

748
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: that stuff, but like he was getting he was getting

749
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: clipped on the way in a lot. But he just

750
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: kept doing it and eventually he's overwhelming Porier, right, And

751
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: this is kind of what he's I guess he his

752
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: design is like I'm gonna beat this guy by onslaught.

753
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just keep coming at him, I'm gonna keep pressure,

754
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try I'm gonna keep trying to dump him

755
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: onto the camps.

756
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, just overwhelm him.

757
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: And it worked for the first round, but by the

758
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: second round, you know, he's dying on his feet a

759
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: little bit, and then all of a sudden, when he

760
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: starts getting you know, when he's trying to take his breath,

761
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: Dustin's firing on him and bom, he's knocking him down.

762
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Then he's knocking him out.

763
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 3: And that's the kind the thing that I'm like, I

764
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: feel like we're not really evolving too far from that

765
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: version of Santini, Like this, this particular version he was

766
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: getting there those body shots, that the kicks that he

767
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: was taking, not that they felt unnecessary, but they they were.

768
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: He didn't have to take him so you didn't have

769
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: to take that much damage to get this done. I

770
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: don't think, I mean, playing a little more cautiously would

771
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: probably benefit this guy, because it always looks like he

772
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: puts himself into unnecessary danger in the end. How do

773
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: you feel about it, man, Because I feel like his

774
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: whole thing is he's almost too aggressive to the point

775
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: where he ignores, like he just over his system, overrides

776
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: and you know, incoming danger and he's just like, I'm

777
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: gonna go do what I'm gonna do, and if the

778
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: guy catches me, he catches me, you know what I mean?

779
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: Like it it feels to me like if I was

780
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: betting on him, it would feel like a you know,

781
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: an unnecessary thrill ride. You'd be like, this is why

782
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: is he putting himself in this kind of danger?

783
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, there's the there's the there's the belief in oneself,

784
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: and then there's the belief in you know, maintaining a

785
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: kind of pressuring attitude that I do think he has.

786
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: And that's great.

787
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: But if you don't marry that with the very particular

788
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: set of skills that go with closing distance, and you

789
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: just walk and reach in a zombified way, you're gonna

790
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 2: get fucking stretched.

791
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: That's exactly it. You just nailed it.

792
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: He comes in very slowly and deliberately, like the guys

793
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: see it from a mile away. And unless he gets

794
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 3: in there and like he you know, he really gets

795
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: in there tight and he's able to do it, but

796
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: like he'll take that damage. You're right, It's like he's

797
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: just lunging very slowly towards his opponent, very unnatural.

798
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: Look, every time he should just someone should throw him

799
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: a bit of dice. He should shake him up, shake

800
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: it and then throw it and then walk in reach

801
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: because that's really what he's doing. And again, the lower

802
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: the level of the opponent, the more that that works.

803
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: Just fine and that and honestly, he can work pretty

804
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: far into your career. But then you're gonna get those

805
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: guys where it's just not gonna work at all, and

806
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna come across the arm wall. Yeah exactly, and

807
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna get that, or even a guys

808
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: who aren't necessarily like big punchers, you know, like Volk's

809
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: not necessarily a big puncher.

810
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: But just think about it.

811
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: You're not going to encroach on him or he's not

812
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: going to encroach on you without you know, it's just

813
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot more of a thoughtful process that

814
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 2: goes into it. He just bites down on the mouthpiece

815
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: and then just kind of barrels through, you know what

816
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: I mean, Like there's bullets coming down range and he's

817
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: just like, I'm.

818
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: Really reasy to watch it.

819
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: It's really crazy to watch because it's I guess his

820
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: initial red flags, Like because you're watching him come up,

821
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 3: they still exist. He's still coming in with the same

822
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: red flags and you're like, man, that's I guess That's

823
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: why when he was mentioning Arman, it just as much

824
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: as as much as I appreciate like you're saying, like

825
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: there's guys who have you know, they're going to put

826
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: a pace on you and they're going to do that,

827
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: that's just how they're built. As much as that can

828
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: benefit a guy like uh, like san Deny going against

829
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: a guy like Arman, I don't know.

830
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if that works.

831
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: Man, even like when it like you go back to

832
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: that uh, that Mo Kano fight, you know, just in

833
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: the in the way that he was getting his in

834
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 3: that fight.

835
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: It's just there's I'm not sure he's he's gonna be.

836
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: Able to get by the very upper echelon of the

837
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: division if he fights like that.

838
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: He's got skills in really important ways. His judo I

839
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: think saved him a little bit in this fight, which

840
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: was important. And obviously he's strong, strong willed good. Once

841
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: it touches the mat, he's very good. He has good positioning.

842
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: But he just kind of believed, dude, he's one of

843
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: these guys. You ever seen.

844
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: You've got kids, right, yeah?

845
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: Have you ever given a kid a screwdriver to solve

846
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: a problem the first time? Especially like a flathead one

847
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: where they'll just punch it in and then they'll just

848
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: try and turn no matter what. Even if it's like

849
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: fucking everything up in the process, that's BSDST.

850
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: He just takes it.

851
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: He's just I'm gonna I'm gonna turn this no matter what.

852
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: And it's like you're gonna strip the gear or the

853
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: screw doing this. I mean just all kinds of problems

854
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: are gonna emerge over time when you do stuff like this.

855
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 2: He just everything is just I can solve that problem

856
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: with a hammer.

857
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Don't you.

858
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: You have concerns, right like if he's not if the

859
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: fight's not over in the first round and a half,

860
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: what's he going to do? I was just looking at

861
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: the head that I was like, has he wins? Has

862
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: he ever went to decision? You have to go all

863
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: the way back to the very beginning of a UFC career.

864
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: It was the very first one in twenty twenty one

865
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: that he had a decision. Every single fight has ended

866
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: and honestly, like you watch him, his pace is incredible,

867
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: Like if you're able to be like this is one

868
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: of those things, but I'm not sure it's even sustainable

869
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: beyond like a round and a half. That's another one

870
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 3: of these issues, like if a guy like Arma just

871
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: puts up a front against him and is not going

872
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: to uh, you know, he's not going to go away,

873
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: what happens deeper into the fight. That's I mean, that's

874
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: a legit question for a guy like h For Sin

875
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: deny Man, there's a lot that we just don't know.

876
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: For as much tape as we actually have on many

877
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: fights as he's had now.

878
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: H I'm not sure how many fights he's had in

879
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: the octagon to date. H. Let's see here, he's had

880
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: a bunch. Actually, Jesus Christ, he's had one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

881
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: thirteen four in a row. He's won since that moy

882
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: Kano loss with Kyle Preppolec Maurusio Hufi, Banil Derush.

883
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: And Dan Hooker. These are some good names he's putting.

884
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: None of those other fights even went to the third round.

885
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 3: It's just, you know, it's just a it's it's a

886
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: weird anominally, I mean, the UFC has to love a

887
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: guy like this, right, because yes, hey, love a dude

888
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: doesn't have any self preservation, but especially one who can win,

889
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, but like, uh, there's a lot to I

890
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: mean there, I just feel like we don't know enough

891
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: about him yet.

892
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 2: Uh, there's a question about where we go from here.

893
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about what BSD wants. We have a

894
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: clip and then I want you to react.

895
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: Who would you like to fight next?

896
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: And it seems like out of the guys you mentioned,

897
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: Ammond's the one without an opponent.

898
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 5: Would you be happy to fight him for that number

899
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: one spot or do you want to just go straight past.

900
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: Him and get into title contention.

901
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 6: I'm fully focused on anybodys insights the top five, but

902
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 6: the undispited belt on the BMF be what the am

903
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 6: I first interest? My first point of interest is to

904
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 6: fight the winner of Charles Holloway or the winner of

905
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 6: Justin Vesus.

906
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: Uh, this is ilia.

907
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 6: But if heat has to happen, I will fight Arman,

908
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 6: of course, and I will take a spot.

909
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: All right, Chuck, which way should you go?

910
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm him, my drothers would be to

911
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: wait for the gates you winner, right, because you I

912
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: don't think, just given all the things we were just

913
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: talking about, you want to have a stay busy fight,

914
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: especially against a guy like armand Serukian, But I don't

915
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: know it, like honestly, like, what do you do with

916
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: armand Serukin if you're not going to put him against

917
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: a guy like San Denis?

918
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: You know, like, what are you? What are you doing

919
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: with him? At this point?

920
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: He has to have an opponent at some point, And

921
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: I guess this one makes more sense than anything else

922
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: on the table around him right now that are that

923
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: are in position to be in a title right So,

924
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: I think from a standpoint of matchmaking, that's the fight

925
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: out with Look at.

926
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Man if you just say his name like it's an

927
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: English word and you call him Saint Dennis, but no,

928
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: you get a little bit more of a sense of

929
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: his donkery. You know, Oh, there's Dennis Dennis the Menace,

930
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: just fucking about here. I don't have a I don't

931
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: have a strong opinion about where he should go.

932
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it.

933
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't hate the Arman fight in the

934
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: sense of obviously I think Army should be next with

935
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: the title, but he's not going to be, So now

936
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: what do you have to do with him?

937
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: That's a decent place to go. I don't I don't

938
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: hate that.

939
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: I think to me, again, I don't know what they're

940
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: gonna do with armand so if they don't give Armand

941
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: the winner of Charles and Max, because let's say he

942
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: doesn't even want that, then BSD getting the winner of that,

943
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: to me is more is more interesting. I don't think

944
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: he's really close enough to be a title content, I

945
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: mean BMF title, but not a weight class title. And honestly,

946
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't think he's really figured out that part.

947
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: Of his game yet.

948
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just one of these questions you have

949
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: to ask yourself, like what is that kind of a

950
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: game good for? Where you're really good at rest, you

951
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: fight a high pace, but you negotiate distance right very clumsily.

952
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: That's good for beating a lot of guys, but it's

953
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: just not good for upper echelon opponents. And maybe he

954
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: was just fighting that way because he just didn't respect

955
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: Dan Hooker.

956
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, it could have been. It

957
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: really could have been.

958
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: It does seem at times he just kind of just

959
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: he even did that with Poorya, and it like, if

960
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: you imagine a little bit of even justin Gaechee fighting him,

961
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: you could see Geichee really punishing him for this right,

962
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: like Geechee. So, I mean it's not like any of

963
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: these are a slam dunk either. I think that he's

964
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 3: going to have to show he's gonna have to show

965
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: a little more restraint or something like it. But you're right, man,

966
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: unless he figures out how to get shoot in quicker,

967
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: man just can't imagine the upper guys are going to

968
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: chew him up.

969
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: I think Dan Hooker will be thirty six in a

970
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I don't think he's necessarily not still

971
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: a decent contributor in the top ten, but you kind

972
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: of seen the limits at this point.

973
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: What makes sense for him is he in serony territory.

974
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: I know people like to throw that out there, like

975
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: kind of these guys who are you know, you're gonna

976
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: put him in there and they're gonna win some of

977
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: those fights, even like against the top guys like he

978
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 3: you know he'd beat Gamra right like he was able

979
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: to get a split decision. There is that kind of

980
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 3: where he's at, Like is at the territory you find

981
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 3: him in it at this point?

982
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, same here.

983
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: I think if you want to do the Paddy fight

984
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: and then so if you want to build Paddy back up,

985
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to just throw Hooker under the

986
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 3: busy doesn't have a chance. But that would be a

987
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: good match up for Patty, And it would actually be

988
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: a decent matchup for for Hooker. And since they have

989
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: the bad blood, it's not the worst idea in the world,

990
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: you know. I think that they've they they've got the

991
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: bad blood. I think you can capitalize on that.

992
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: Patty watched Hooker fight. We have a little bit of footage.

993
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: This is this is Patty watching the Hooker BSD fight.

994
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: Cole May now my very good pal.

995
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 7: Let's see how he gets on with them while Satany

996
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 7: these could then look just bang it out. I was

997
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 7: on the feet. I can see Stany taking them down.

998
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 7: But yeah, let's see what happens. Yeah, Donald has been

999
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 7: talking on a big game, so he wants to win.

1000
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 7: Rarely done he and then it could be me basing

1001
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 7: next in the summer, could be me based whoever wins

1002
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 7: this fight. Really, to be honest, that I can't saying thing.

1003
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 7: He could take him down, just grapple him. As just

1004
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 7: all known, I don't think Dan's a very good grappler. Sorry, Dan,

1005
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 7: whether you get to come out of the Every single

1006
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 7: thing I said about him was fucking yeah, if you

1007
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 7: ever gets and again, lad's two fights on the bounce

1008
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 7: that he's in pain there than like just Gram quitting there,

1009
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 7: don like it's a win for Ron like PSD, you

1010
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 7: get to finish good scrap. Nice to see Dan gets

1011
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 7: after this year. He was sharing he probably enjoyed me

1012
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 7: losing last week. That was probably a generational hate watching him.

1013
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 7: I never got finished.

1014
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: I never got finished.

1015
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, your health might be better long term if

1016
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: you had what do you think Patty versus Hooker or

1017
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: Patty versus BSD?

1018
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Could you do Paddy BSD? You could you do that fight?

1019
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: You don't seem that you don't seem that high on it.

1020
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 3: It feels a little bit like two ships kind of

1021
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 3: going different. And I'm not saying that, Patty, but we

1022
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 3: talked about this, Like Patty, you mentioned this very specifically

1023
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: that it wasn't like you didn't see his best shot,

1024
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: Like he went in there and he coughed up all

1025
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 3: of his charms.

1026
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: Essentially, I thought we got the best he could do

1027
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: against Justin Gaegee.

1028
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: So you're saying, like if if that's really the case, right,

1029
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: like that we kind of know his ceiling. I don't

1030
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 3: know how that translates against a guy like Santini. I

1031
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: guess it would be very interesting because we have our

1032
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: questions about Santani Kenny, like take him into the deeper

1033
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: rounds and like maybe we find something out.

1034
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to it.

1035
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: But if I'm the UFC, I'd probably look to do

1036
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 3: the Hooker fight. They're both coming off the losses, right,

1037
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: and Hooker stepped into this let's let's face it on

1038
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: very short notice and held him so like he had

1039
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: a a pretty good account of himself. Right, given the

1040
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: given the situation, haven't fought like three months ago. I

1041
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: don't think he loses too much. He still got enough

1042
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: juice I think for a patty fight. So I think

1043
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: that's the way I'd go.

1044
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: Hooker has an idea for what should be next for him.

1045
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Let's take a look.

1046
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: Of the white house. I'll see it, I'll see it.

1047
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: I'll see it at the top. Dude was at a

1048
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: park bench.

1049
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: A park bench with a mouthful of food and a

1050
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: black eye.

1051
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: I'll see you at the top, you know, like I don't.

1052
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: I will say though, if you recall that's one of

1053
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: the few wins that Michael Chandler has in the UFC.

1054
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: He knocked him out, Remember that is true? Yes, man,

1055
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: So you could have run that one back. But is

1056
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: that a big attraction?

1057
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: Like is that gonna get you over to the West

1058
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: Lawn or wherever that's gonna be held?

1059
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: Are you gonna I just think if.

1060
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: You're trying to rebuild Patty on the feet, you can

1061
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: see Hooker is a tough customer at range. Hooker can

1062
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: be a tough customer. But I just feel like there

1063
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: could be enough ways for Patty to win that one.

1064
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a grudge match. They're both

1065
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: coming off losses. It just seems to set itself up

1066
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1067
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1068
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Every time we it's something tidy like this, though, the

1069
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: OC doesn't end up doing what we think they'll do,

1070
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

1071
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: It's a question of also what Hooker wants. Does Hooker

1072
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: want to fight Patty? You know, I don't. I don't

1073
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: know if he wants that, or he'd rather have like

1074
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: another old warhorse like Michael Chandler. You know.

1075
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 6: Uh.

1076
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: Before we get to a topic differ three, let's talk

1077
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: about Super Bowl sixty boys and girls. Super Bowl sixty

1078
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: coming up?

1079
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it this weekend? Chuck?

1080
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 2: I think it is right weekend, Yes, sir, super Bowl sixty,

1081
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: it's coming up this weekend. Say again, I said Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

1082
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't say it. Go ahead.

1083
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: Super Bowl sixty, by the way, because it's here, and

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Speaker 2: for the Seahawks in this one, right.

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Speaker 1: I am going to cheer for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit reluctant because the Seahawks beat the

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Speaker 1: But I am going to go for the Seahawks because

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Speaker 1: I just cannot.

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00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: I can't bear another idea of like a Patriot's rain again.

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00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean, we're just too soon out of the other one, right, Like,

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00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: I feel like we gotta like put him down right

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00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: I think he's a good player and it was fun

1108
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: watching him all season kind of develop and uses legs

1109
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: too with his arm. But I think that defense man

1110
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: for Seattle's gonna chew him up.

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything against Drake May at all. Actually

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00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,520
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1113
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,000
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00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,520
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00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,680
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00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,480
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00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: there's like Jaden Daniels antagonists Oh yeah, where they're like, oh, yeah,

1118
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: DC should have picked Drake May instead of Daniels, And

1119
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't. I mean, the jury is still

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Speaker 2: kind of out on that. You know, I don't know

1121
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 2: how true that is. After his rookie year, it's like, well,

1122
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,200
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Speaker 2: consistently injured. Never nevertheless, and also, I will tell you

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yes, yes, yes, he got drafted and he

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Speaker 1: My wife sends me stuff about him all the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. I don't even know, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he speaks.

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00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: Spanish or anything. But dude, trust me, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: The Colombians are all about this dude. He's constantly on

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Speaker 2: but I'm definitely gonna go to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: With that in mind, Chuck, let's go to topic number three,

1156
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: which was the rest of the UFC three twenty five

1157
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: main card. Now, to me, the most interesting fi the

1158
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: most interesting fight on this card was the one we're

1159
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: going to talk about next, Namely, Mauricio Hoofi gets a

1160
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 2: second round stoppage over Raphael Fhazev, although he was losing,

1161
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: I would say the majority of the first round, had

1162
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: a better end of the first round, and then a

1163
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: great second round, obviously stopping him.

1164
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: There. What does this mean for Hoofy?

1165
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: Because here's why I asked Chuck, There's no question that

1166
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: beating an equality opponent like Phyzev means a lot, right,

1167
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: no doubt about it, a move up in the rankings,

1168
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: high quality name on your resume. But it's not like

1169
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 2: the things that BSD showed us where a problem were

1170
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: ever really challenged in this fight. So it ended up

1171
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: just being a really cool striking fight, which I'm not

1172
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: mad at.

1173
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm not mad at.

1174
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: But what I'm trying to say is I understand Whofy's

1175
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: going to get pushed up the line, but without these

1176
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: other bigger questions being answered. How much faith was restored

1177
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: by this win?

1178
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's some because anytime you come off

1179
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 3: of a loss, especially as a guy like that who

1180
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 3: I think who was getting, you know, some rub and

1181
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: some hype from the UFC, especially as the fighting nerds

1182
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: and all that like, sometimes that can parley into a

1183
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: losing streak. And this was a very tough draw. For

1184
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: him to get physive. It was I think it was

1185
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 3: like the betting line was basically even. It was like

1186
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 3: a coin flip type thing. And that first round I thought, fazive,

1187
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: you know, using his kicks and just kind of, you know,

1188
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 3: being the aggressor. I was a little worried because it

1189
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: looked like it looked like, whof, he was going to

1190
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: be a little holstered. He maybe he wasn't going to

1191
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 3: unleash we were maybe we weren't even going to see

1192
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: him come at him with the striking. But then when

1193
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: he did do it in that second round, there was

1194
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 3: something that was like, oh man, he is so back,

1195
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: but not just back, like maybe he never went anywhere,

1196
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: you know with that big right hand. I that's the

1197
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: kind of thing that's such a great equalizer for him,

1198
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: and he's so explosive. So I think that there was

1199
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: a bit of like he's back, He's going to be

1200
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: who he is. But I'm with you, I you know,

1201
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: you you'd mentioned as we were kind of talking about this,

1202
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: that you would try to like take him down because

1203
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: maybe this is the one vulnerability, this is a weakness

1204
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: within his game, and why would you want to uh

1205
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 3: play in his in his power sources, why would you

1206
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: want to be in his wheelhouse and stand with whof

1207
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: he I think Phyz was credited just one takedown attempt,

1208
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 3: and it might have even been Do you recall when

1209
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 3: it happened, because.

1210
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe the first round I look here.

1211
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: But it was it was a little bit like a

1212
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: It was almost like by default, like it wasn't like

1213
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: a fully committed one. And I feel like the second round,

1214
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: but it didn't feel like, you know, it didn't really

1215
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: feel like that's what he was aiming to do it.

1216
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: So even to give him that one attempt, you're like, ah,

1217
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: and I feel like that there from a Physive's standpoint,

1218
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: being where he's at, you know, with the with the

1219
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: recent losses, and then he had a very good rebound

1220
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: fight uh in his last one. I was I guess

1221
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to see him try that some more, you know,

1222
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: just to just to give himself an advantage, just to

1223
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: see get more data on like it, where's hoof he

1224
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: had on this? We never got that, so that you know,

1225
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: there's gonna be like for Physive. I don't know if

1226
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 3: that was part of a game plan or not. We've

1227
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: mentioned this before and that he loves to stand in box.

1228
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: I thought that he probably would want to show that

1229
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 3: he get out box him or out kickbox him. And

1230
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 3: that's the danger of that with the guy with Hoofy, right,

1231
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 3: So I think he should have mixed it up more.

1232
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 3: Would have liked to have seen it. But dude, I

1233
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: take nothing away from Hoofie. He was He took what

1234
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 3: he was supposed to take and he landed the big

1235
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 3: shot we needed to And did you see the poise

1236
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 3: when he landed that shot, the way he just kind

1237
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: of coolly closed in on him to finish it. I mean,

1238
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 3: I see snipers like that, man, and you get you

1239
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 3: can't help but get excited.

1240
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1241
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: I mean, on the one hand, I'll say, like, you know,

1242
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: did we get the answers to questions raised from this

1243
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: the the BSD performance? Well, no, I guess we didn't

1244
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: get answers to that kind of stuff. However, However, this

1245
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: is by far the best guy on Hoofi's resume by far.

1246
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: King Green was the next best one, and as good

1247
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: as King Green as he's obviously older and he has

1248
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: hands way down, you know, and he's very hittable, whereas

1249
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: Physiev is still trying to play defense actively, right. But

1250
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: the part to me that's interesting, Chuck, and the one,

1251
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: the part of the fight that I like the most

1252
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: is fazive was ready and dude got right in his

1253
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: face and as we mentioned, corralled him from the very beginning,

1254
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: like absolutely took that fight by the scruff of the

1255
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: neck and was like, I'm gonna make it mine. And

1256
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: Hoofy was patient, he didn't panic, he didn't make bad decisions.

1257
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: Took him a while to get his offense going, that

1258
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: is true, about three minutes or so, but after that

1259
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: he really never looked back. He began to land his jab,

1260
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: was doing phenomenal work. And then that you mentioned that

1261
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: long range right hand, that was the one that really

1262
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: clobbered him. You know, to me, very very selective about

1263
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: his offense, but very effective with it at the same time.

1264
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: High pressure situation, high pressure opponent, and he looked fantastic.

1265
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: Like for me, it's one thing if you're styling on

1266
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: a guy that's walking into stuff and has bad defense.

1267
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not what Phazivee was doing.

1268
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 2: Obviously he was hit able because hello, he got stop

1269
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 2: with strikes in the end, but you know, he was

1270
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: he was applying a forceful chuck, methodical plan and Hoofy

1271
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 2: withstood it and then return serve and ultimately got the win.

1272
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: I do think that there's a lot of value to

1273
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: be gleaned from something like that.

1274
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, And like you could see him kind

1275
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: of getting this rhythm going to like and I feel

1276
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: like he might be one of those guys. Let me

1277
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 3: ask you this man, because obviously he's with the Fighting

1278
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 3: Nerds and they have a good team.

1279
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: They're a little spread out.

1280
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: These days, and I know that, like even Hoofy was

1281
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: talking about relocating to New Hampshire last year when I

1282
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: saw last April, so he ended up going to Australians

1283
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 3: with the City kickboxing guys. But did you notice anything

1284
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 3: I guess from that that you could pick up, you know,

1285
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: from like what you saw that, like, hey man, maybe

1286
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: this maybe he's tweaking some things to be a little

1287
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: better with his new camp.

1288
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean he definitely he was a little bit more on.

1289
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: He didn't throw stupid weapons. How much of that is

1290
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 2: the opponent, how much of that is the new camp.

1291
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: It's really really hard to say. But like for example,

1292
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: he was as we indicate, he was really backed up.

1293
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: He was throwing punches, He threw a couple of knees,

1294
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: and he did throw some kicks too. But I'm saying,

1295
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: if you look at his other fights, he's doing like

1296
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: acrobatic kind of like show off shit, and this one

1297
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: was much more calm, much more focused, much more dialed in.

1298
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: And as we indicated, the offense was a little slow

1299
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: to start, but once it got going, it never turned

1300
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: into a roaring fire, but it turned into like a

1301
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: like a consistent kind of jackhammer bah bah that kind

1302
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 2: of a thing. And to me, it's just I don't know,

1303
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: is it maturity, is it was it? Maybe also we

1304
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: haven't talked about this. Maybe like, dude, he didn't just

1305
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: lose to BSD. He looked terrible. He looked terrible. He

1306
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: gets BSD. This to me looked like a guy who

1307
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 2: wasn't you know Jayon Silva had that terrible loss to

1308
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: Lopez and then this fight was not barking when Bruce

1309
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 2: Buffer was introducing him. Right here you have Hoofi taking

1310
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: also a bad loss and coming back in and being

1311
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more stone faced with it, yet still

1312
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: creative and whatnot.

1313
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: I wonder if that played a role as well. I

1314
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: noticed too that his corner.

1315
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, like these guys have been working with

1316
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 3: him for this fight, but man, the emotional outpour, and

1317
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: I know, I know he was undergoing some tremendous emotional

1318
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 3: trauma going in this fight, as we learned.

1319
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll see this here. I mean, let me.

1320
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: Read this if I may, for the online of the

1321
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: audio listeners. This is a quote from Mariso Hoofi at

1322
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: backstage following his UFC three twenty five win quote. A

1323
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: few days ago, my brother passed away, so I was

1324
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: very emotional with this. A few weeks ago. I think

1325
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: he meant to say, I got influenza, and today in

1326
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: the morning, I had so much pain in my back.

1327
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: I almost can't move, can't walk, and I know that

1328
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: God is helping me today.

1329
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: So I'm super super happy.

1330
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: Jesus man, Like you look, I mean, first of all,

1331
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: to fight under that kind of that circumstance is just

1332
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: very tough. But his corner, you know, these guys that

1333
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: he had in his corner, it was a very emotional thing.

1334
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: And I feel like he was very connected to these

1335
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: guys man already. So it'd be very interesting to see

1336
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: if this becomes more of a permanent thing or if

1337
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: he ends up back with the fighting nerds.

1338
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: But that version of like, you know, you put that up.

1339
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: Here, and each guy, now each fight, all top had

1340
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: something that could have kept them from this fight. Can

1341
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: you imagine if all of these had acted, maybe in

1342
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: a normal, ordinary way of like of a regular person said,

1343
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not going to fight my brother just died,

1344
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: or you know, I pulled my shoulder out or whatever

1345
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: it is before the fight, I'm not going to fight this,

1346
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: they would have been in trouble. But all of these

1347
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 3: guys somehow persevered and showed up to the octagon. The

1348
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 3: USC is very fortunate that all these guys made it.

1349
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: Man going through so much, You're.

1350
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: Right, though he did seem to It's a great point

1351
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: you made that he seemed to have a little bit

1352
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: an extra connection to the corner of this time. Yeah,

1353
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: and partly, I'm sure the circumstances, as you raised, were challenging.

1354
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: But then also, I'll tell you what, Hoofy's twenty nine, Chuck.

1355
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: If he wants to get better, and I mean truly

1356
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: wants to get better and he's switching up his camps,

1357
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: he has time. He has time, he has time to

1358
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: really begin to do something special. I don't know if

1359
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: he will, but I really liked his attitude with this one.

1360
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: You had a no bullshit guy in front of you,

1361
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: putting pressure on landing heavy early, and he didn't panic

1362
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: in waiver. He took his time and he methodically won.

1363
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 3: That's gonna be an interesting matchmaking process for him because movie, Yeah,

1364
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: but I mean only because of the last two guys

1365
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: you gave him are like these perennial kind of top

1366
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: ten dudes, and especially now with uh you know, uh

1367
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: San Deini kind of being where he's at, where he

1368
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: wants to kind of fight the top guys, It'll be

1369
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: interesting to see what they do, you know what I mean?

1370
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: Like because and also like like you mentioned, like you

1371
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 3: don't want to put him like if you put him

1372
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: in there against a guy who may just really take

1373
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: him down, you know what I matter to attempt to

1374
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 3: do that, that could just kind of be the end

1375
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: of that too. So I think from his team should

1376
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: be a little selective here as as they manage his

1377
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 3: career as well.

1378
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk very quickly if we can about physiv go

1379
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: Lee Man. Yeah, I've been waiting for this guy, Chuck

1380
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: to turn a corner turn a corner and he gets

1381
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: so close and he looks the part and then he

1382
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: just doesn't. He fell apart twice against Skachee. He did

1383
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: have the injury in the whatever fight it was the

1384
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: Arnold Allen or I forget who it was, but uh

1385
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: yeah again, right, what am I saying? I'm sorry he

1386
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: had an injury there, so that's not really his fault.

1387
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: But he's thirty three. Now thirty three and some change.

1388
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: I kind of thought he'd be ready to take a

1389
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: turn here and again one more time. I liked his

1390
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: approach to this fight for the most part.

1391
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: The lack of takedowns.

1392
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: It would have been nice to see him really diversify

1393
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: that and then maybe a little bit more. But honestly, Chuck,

1394
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: you can't go in there and say, oh he he

1395
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: came in unprepared. This is like Lopez where he just

1396
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: had no fucking idea what he was doing. He had

1397
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: a lot of good ideas. It's just dude, Hoofy was

1398
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: really good. And we also talked about this.

1399
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: I was like, if you you know the truth of

1400
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: the matters, you can get caught against the guy like

1401
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 3: who if you choose to stand with him as good

1402
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 3: as and I was pointing this out with Ziv Man.

1403
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 3: He's had a couple of pretty I thought, masterclass stand

1404
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 3: up fights. I always think of that, right. L One

1405
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: was when I first saw it, and I was like, man,

1406
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 3: this guy like can box, he can really like and

1407
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: all the stand up he can.

1408
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: Incorporate his boxing really well.

1409
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 3: And this time I felt like he was using his

1410
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 3: kicks to a really good effect, you know, for creating

1411
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: the spacing and and also just for effectiveness and going

1412
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 3: to the body a lot. It seemed like a good

1413
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: approach man. Like you said, like he was corralling him.

1414
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: There was no I almost have nothing against his game plan,

1415
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: other than to say, like I would have liked to

1416
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: have seen him at some point, maybe when the jab

1417
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: was landing or something like just try for the take,

1418
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 3: to like sell out a little more, just to see

1419
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 3: only because we knew this was a big spot for Physibe.

1420
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: You lose it, you may have lost your chance at

1421
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: a title ever, right, I don't know if the UFC

1422
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: was going to expedite him to a title at any

1423
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 3: point soon, but to go one in four in your

1424
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: last five fights for a guy with that kind of

1425
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: upside and potential, it's gonna be tough for him to

1426
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 3: overcome that man.

1427
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: It was a big spot.

1428
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 3: So I would have liked to have seen him try

1429
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 3: everything before going out like that.

1430
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's possible, and I'm not sure

1431
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: exactly how much of a difference it would make even

1432
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: if he could. But he has consistently looked undersized to me.

1433
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: Does he look undersized to you? He was smaller against Gechee?

1434
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: He was certainly, Yes, like he if you notice against

1435
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: the lightweights, he's always got a speed advantage, which al right,

1436
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: that's fine, but it's like, if you're that smaller and

1437
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: you have a speed advantage, maybe you should be at

1438
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: one forty five.

1439
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: I don't know a good shout. I wonder if he could.

1440
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean I haven't really looked into his like you know,

1441
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: where he cut, like what he weighs. But you're right

1442
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 3: as I'm thinking about, especially against Hoofi in this last

1443
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: one man, Hoofy looked huge next to huge, so that

1444
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: might not be a that might be something if he's able.

1445
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: To do that, that could kind of resurrect him.

1446
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 3: He's still young enough to like you're you know, sometimes

1447
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 3: guys are He's been in a lot of battles, but

1448
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 3: like sometimes guys at this age, they're still kind of

1449
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 3: in their prime years, so I, you know, maybe that

1450
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 3: would be the thing for him.

1451
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say about this next fight, Chuck,

1452
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Taisu Ivasa hasn't won in four years. He

1453
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: is zero to six during that time. And yet Chuck,

1454
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: he entered the Talisan to share a fight ranked twelfth

1455
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: in the fucking world.

1456
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: Look at these rankings.

1457
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 2: Now, of course they're gonna be these are these are

1458
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: the ones as of this moment. There the new voting

1459
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: will come out and this will alter it somewhat, But

1460
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: like as of fight time, this is what it was.

1461
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: Talas and t Shia sitting at fifteen and then Ty

1462
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: sitting at twelve. Chuck, he cannot beat anyone at this

1463
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: level anymore.

1464
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: You had the two most.

1465
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: Tired men on Earth, hands on their hips, the universal

1466
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: sign for fuck this, I'm old and tired looking at

1467
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: each other. Dude, I don't have heavyweit men's heavyweight. If

1468
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: the UFC came out and said we're just gonna get

1469
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: rid of heavyweight, I'd be like, okay, fine, yeah, fine,

1470
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: no problem.

1471
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: That's sad. But I just kind of like that these days.

1472
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 3: And the saddest part is you're showing that graphic of

1473
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 3: the rankings and I'm like, well, Talison moves up to

1474
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: twelve and Typer Wilson moves down to thirteen. You know

1475
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 3: that's like, cause what who else is behind these guys?

1476
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: Like who are who's sixteen through twenty?

1477
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's a bad division right now.

1478
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 3: And it doesn't help that the top of the division

1479
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: is in such you know, upheaval as well, Like you

1480
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: can't get anything going on. It's just uh that that

1481
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 3: was a that was a weird one. And I think

1482
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: like when you saw that first round play out and

1483
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 3: there was a moment very early second round where you

1484
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 3: could see both guys right at a moment they could

1485
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 3: like both guys could be engaging whatever. They both were

1486
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 3: taking large breaths, and you're like, oh boy, here we go.

1487
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: This has the potential to be And who was the

1488
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: one at UFC one fifty in Denver?

1489
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: It was like the famous uh you.

1490
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: Know the one I'm talking about where they kind of

1491
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: Ben Rothwell's Yeah, I.

1492
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: Told you my brain only works for the things. Yeah,

1493
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: it's way back.

1494
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: Well that's because back then we paid attention to everything, like, yeah, exactly,

1495
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 3: and there weren't as many events, but but yeah, it was.

1496
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 3: It had those vibes from that moment. Of course, that

1497
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 3: was in Denver where it's like fifty two hundred feet

1498
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: and uh, this one was in Sydney, so I just knew,

1499
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you just knew what we were in For

1500
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: the rest of the way though, from early second round on, yes,

1501
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: there were oh yes, yeah.

1502
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: Bro listen, listen to listen to this is I mean,

1503
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: this is not a definitive list. There are other lists

1504
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: you could go to, but this is ten years ago February,

1505
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: so it's now February twenty twenty six. This is February

1506
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: of twenty sixteen. Number One, you had Fabrizio Verdom arguably

1507
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: the greatest submission heavyweight of all time. Number two Kane

1508
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: Velaskez three, Steve a Miochic four alistair overim overreim winning

1509
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: in K one, winning an MMA. Obviously, Ben Rothwell was

1510
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: sitting at five jds, one of the best jabs in MMA,

1511
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: certainly for heavyweight, sitting at six. Our Lawski was still

1512
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: sitting at seven at the time. Brown was there, Josh

1513
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: Barnett and then Mark Hunt obviously directly decorated kickboxer himself.

1514
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: And that's not even the very best that I've seen

1515
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: the division. But even that is like miles better than

1516
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: what we have today. I cannot believe the disrepair. Dude,

1517
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: how is the UFC? I mean, I know the answer,

1518
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: I know the answer, but don't you feel like someone

1519
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 2: at the UFC needs to have a conversation with Dana

1520
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: and be like, look, just for two fights, let's just

1521
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: sign Francis. You don't even have to show up for

1522
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: these events. We'll we'll put John Annick out there for

1523
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: the press conference. Blah blah blah. You don't have to

1524
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: wrap a belt on anybody. Just just bring this fucking

1525
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: guy back, have him fight some big couple big fights,

1526
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 2: and then you know whatever, you can call it a

1527
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 2: day after that. If you want, let's go get Rico.

1528
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: Let's go Rico with Verhoven. Let's go actually make some

1529
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: big sign because what the homegrown crop is.

1530
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: Just shut the division down, you know, just close it

1531
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: and it's it's it's not like the the you know,

1532
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: the writing wasn't on the wall because you just went

1533
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: down that list. And if you're a call back, then

1534
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 3: all these guys were in their mid thirties, they were

1535
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 3: going to age out eventually, and they just have not

1536
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,479
Speaker 3: done a good job. I mean, there just hasn't been

1537
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 3: like a movement like you get in these other divisions

1538
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 3: where there's young guys who are coming up the ranks

1539
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: and you're like, watch out for him, watch out for him,

1540
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: watch out for him. We haven't had that at heavyweight,

1541
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 3: so it remains like an old boys league. And then

1542
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 3: you get to this situation now where all the woodwork

1543
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 3: figures who probably wouldn't even be in the top space

1544
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 3: at all in the in the other eras are now

1545
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: ranked and you can't get rid of guys like ty

1546
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 3: to tweetbas because honestly, I'm not even like he's one

1547
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: of the bigger names in the division who still draws

1548
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: like a fan interest.

1549
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: So what do you do in this situation?

1550
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent, though, man, Like, if

1551
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: if you're just trying to get this division like exciting again,

1552
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: to try to get you know, anything, just give it

1553
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: a you know, a life preserver.

1554
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: The Francis and Ghana thing is out there.

1555
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: It's like, like, get past the pride point of this,

1556
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: bring him back, you know what I mean, Like you

1557
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 3: still got Jones, Who's you know, willing to fight? I

1558
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 3: know he wants the White House car, but like you

1559
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: got you still have Jones out, you still have Aspen

1560
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: all you start, you could regenerate that you mentioned Rico,

1561
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean that's a perfect thing, just given like where

1562
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,479
Speaker 3: he's been and what all he's done. Bring him over,

1563
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean, do anything. But right now, man, it is

1564
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 3: a mess, and there's nothing exciting you like you like

1565
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: you look at that top fifteen, do you get excited

1566
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: about any of the matchmaking that you could do in

1567
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 3: that like at this point, like there's very little there

1568
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 3: that you're like, oh, I'd love to see this.

1569
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: And the words of Habib Namer got made of who cares? Brother?

1570
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: Who cares?

1571
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: That's so true and that's not where you want it

1572
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: to be. In difference is never going to sell fights.

1573
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: You know, I said this on my postfight show, and

1574
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: I got the year wrong, but it was August of

1575
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 2: two thousand and five at Pride Final Conflict two thousand

1576
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 2: and five, where Fador at the Saitama Super Arena fought

1577
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 2: Mirco crow Cop. Actually the main event was in a

1578
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: showgun versus Arona from that tournament. That's a hell of

1579
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: a card, by the way, I mean, yeah, get the

1580
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 2: fuck out of here with that. That fight that that

1581
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: fight between Fador and cro Cop was twenty one years ago,

1582
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 2: twenty one years ago and is vastly more thoughtful and

1583
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: advanced technically speaking than what you have today to say

1584
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: nothing of. You know, the way that they look physically

1585
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 2: like these two guys just got a lot of what

1586
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: we call loose change hanging around them, you know what

1587
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean. The decline is the I watched this and

1588
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: I was like, this is these are belatre prelims. When

1589
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 2: two guys are so tired that they can't punch a

1590
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,440
Speaker 2: defenseless opponent in the third round, that's a bellatore prelimb hovyway.

1591
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 3: That's what end of that fight. When Toyobasa like basically

1592
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 3: had turned the tables. All he had to do was

1593
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 3: to get up right, get up and landa shot or two.

1594
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 1: It's over. But he couldn't do it.

1595
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: He could couldn't physically get to his speed. Yeah, and

1596
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 2: I was like, shut this mother fire ball and move on.

1597
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: Just set it on fire and collect the insurance money.

1598
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 6: Uh.

1599
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 2: Last, but not least, on this main card Coulan Saal

1600
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: killed Chuck short work he made of Jamie Malarkey in

1601
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,799
Speaker 2: their opening bout. He did a phenomenal job in this contest.

1602
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: He wins it at three h two of round number one.

1603
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: He basically did whatever he wanted to. Now, I don't

1604
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 2: know what it means to beat Jimy Malarkey in this

1605
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 2: way in which the way which he has it obviously

1606
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: means something, but it's really hard to say.

1607
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: However, I'll say this kid looks good. Kid looks good.

1608
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: I'll see he looks pretty good.

1609
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 3: I feel like Malarkey was a little bit of the

1610
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 3: clay pigeon in this role, Like you're like, all right,

1611
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: you know, because I feel like they understand they understood this.

1612
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: All killed is like this.

1613
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 3: Guy from the region who has a chance to kind

1614
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: of do something big, especially coming off of that uh

1615
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 3: that head kick ko of a hack parass, Like you

1616
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 3: put him in a situation where you can kind of

1617
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 3: showcase the great thing is he did. Like sometimes you

1618
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 3: put these guys in who's the do we just pointed

1619
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 3: this out?

1620
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: Uh? Did he fight this week?

1621
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: Usually pointed out the Canelo's opponent and his name is

1622
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 3: slipping me the guy and as somebody went right through him.

1623
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh, William, Yes, we were just talking about this.

1624
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 3: It's like sometimes you go again, like you put a

1625
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 3: guy who is an aging guy going against somebody who

1626
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: should go right through and he doesn't.

1627
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: Right.

1628
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 3: Sometimes you put a guy who's a prospect against somebody

1629
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 3: and we've seen this a little bit with Peyton Talbot

1630
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 3: or guys like this, and they have trouble a little

1631
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: bit because they're just not it's a lot of pressure

1632
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: to go in there and actually treat a showcase like

1633
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 3: a showcase.

1634
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: But he didn't have any problem.

1635
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 3: And actually that's what makes you like, you know, kind

1636
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 3: of look at him a little differently. It was just

1637
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 3: kind of the poise and when he got that trip

1638
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: where it was a beautiful tribute like takes him straight down.

1639
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: He winks over at the you know, the broadcasters, and

1640
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 3: like that kind of poise and control. Man, Like you

1641
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 3: got to pay attention to it that they always talk

1642
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 3: about the it factor. I feel like this kid's got

1643
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 3: it right. Like, what is he twenty six years old?

1644
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm not sure I got something like that.

1645
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: He's very young, so I feel like he's got that

1646
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: thing going for him.

1647
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: Yes, Quillan saw killed with the weirdest name ever. Just

1648
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 2: turned twenty six. So if you're twenty six and your

1649
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: skill set's this mature, and yes, as I know that

1650
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 2: prior to the fight Long Island, Luke had pointed out

1651
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: he was like a gigantic favorite. Okay, fair enough. Yeah,

1652
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: but my point on that is he did exactly what

1653
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 2: he was supposed to do. There was no question that

1654
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: he fulfilled a.

1655
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: Very easy vision.

1656
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 2: But flying colors nonetheless, Yeah, I mean you still got

1657
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 2: to get up for the guy, right, Like Lark, he's

1658
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 2: still decent. He's still a decent fighter, so you still

1659
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: got to get up for him. He didn't take anything

1660
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: for granted. He went in there and did his business.

1661
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 2: I mean, couldn't the showcase better? And that's if it

1662
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: was meant to be a showcase.

1663
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: He did that.

1664
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 2: Let's go to topic number four if we can, which

1665
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: is now the UFC three twenty five prelims, which listen,

1666
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 2: going into it, we didn't have any illusions that was

1667
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 2: necessarily going to produce the most interesting or meaningful action.

1668
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: For me, Chuck the one standout performance and I'd love

1669
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: to get your opinion on either this one or whatever.

1670
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: If you have a different one than this one. For me,

1671
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 2: the Jonathan mckayliff performance was the one that I like

1672
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: the most. He beats Oban Elliott. Oban Elliott came out

1673
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: looking ready to go. He had he was. He was

1674
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: hurting Mickayleff over and over again. But somewhere along the

1675
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: line the tide begins to turn. Mckayeleff ends up winning

1676
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: at three point thirty one of round number two. The

1677
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 2: fight goes to the ground and Elliott's defense just like

1678
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened, It just disappeared and Micayleff's

1679
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: physicality really came into play here. So good job by mckayliff,

1680
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: kind of screwing himself from a fight there maybe it

1681
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 2: was slipping away and gets a nice victory over guy's

1682
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: got a little bit of hype coming out of the

1683
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: UK scene. What what was your sort of standout on

1684
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: the pre limbs from this?

1685
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 3: There wasn't a ton, but I would say that the

1686
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 3: Billy Elkana fight like only in the sense like Junior

1687
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 3: Tafa came out and we know he's a heavy handed

1688
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 3: guy and he's gonna swing and in the first round, dude,

1689
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: he's a landing. I think he knocked down Elkana. You know,

1690
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 3: it's funny because I was I was doing some stuff

1691
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 3: and watching, you know you do You're like you're keeping

1692
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: an eye on you're walking around. Every time I looked up,

1693
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 3: it looked like Elkana was getting like just worked and Uh.

1694
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: I saw him get dropped, and then like later in

1695
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 3: that round, he got clocked a couple of times and

1696
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: it looked like it was all one side. And then

1697
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 3: the next time I come in, right after the round,

1698
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 3: you know, they're on the ground and Elkana's getting the

1699
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 3: he's getting the choke. So I went back and watched

1700
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 3: the fight, and that was that was a pretty good job.

1701
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: Like you were mentioning uh in the in the in

1702
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: your fight, like he had to kind of weather some

1703
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: stuff and figure it out. But once he did, you know,

1704
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 3: he was able to get in his world and and

1705
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 3: got a rear naked choke. So I thought that was

1706
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 3: a pretty good performance and a kind of a big

1707
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 3: spot because it was right before the main card when

1708
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 3: everybody else is tuning in.

1709
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: So I give him his credit. I think he's won

1710
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: like three in a row now.

1711
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: The Tafas Boy on the Feet they got something for

1712
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: you on the ground. Nah, player, I don't play that

1713
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: game at all. Long Island, look, let's bring you in.

1714
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: Here are resident pre limbs. No one is hornier for

1715
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 2: prelim action than Long Island.

1716
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: So let me guess. I will say this.

1717
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: The cam roused and fight over Cody Brundage took a

1718
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 2: little while for him to kind of break through, but

1719
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: once he did, that looked pretty good. The one that

1720
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: drove me nuts Long Island was the Jacob Malcom fight

1721
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: over Torres Finny. He could basically do whatever he wanted

1722
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: to Torres Finny, and he kept grappling with him that

1723
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: would slow the fight down rather than just putting the

1724
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 2: guy away. It was a little hard to watch. Even

1725
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: if I grant Malcom certainly could do almost whatever he

1726
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: wanted to, it seemed.

1727
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I could see that fight being frustrated, you know,

1728
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 4: as the degenerate gambler. I did have a Malcoon decision, bet.

1729
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 4: I was loving every second of that finish.

1730
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: He did not.

1731
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 4: Similar to the con off Leaf, it was a controversial,

1732
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: scoring was a little off, and it was in favor

1733
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 4: of Conoffley. I had a Conoffley bet, so I was

1734
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 4: probably the happiest guy in the room. I celebrated like

1735
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 4: he got a knockout after that.

1736
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: The Lethaby scorecard giving him a ten eight second round

1737
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 2: I thought was the right scorecard, by the way, not

1738
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: the whole.

1739
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: Thing, but that ten eight I agree with. Yeah, yeah,

1740
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 1: I can't remember which.

1741
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 4: I didn't give like any round to con though, I

1742
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 4: don't know how all three judges gave him one end three.

1743
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 4: That's kind of wild, but whatever, Teres Finny, you mentioned

1744
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 4: his striking, you know, pretty good there against Jacob Malcoun.

1745
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 2: Some would say go class a great analyst. Torres Finny

1746
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 2: has not blocked, slipped, parried, or caught a single jab

1747
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: this fight probably ever, if we're being honest.

1748
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: I felt really bad for Seb Sizzily.

1749
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 4: I believe his name is he's out of Perth as well,

1750
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 4: with Quillan Sall killed, and that he was winning the

1751
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 4: fight clearly on his way to a thirty twenty seven.

1752
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 4: There's about two minutes left in the third round and

1753
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 4: he eats a knee from hell from Nakamora to shout

1754
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 4: out Gaff. Though Gaff was like, my lock of the

1755
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 4: week is Knakamura by Ko and he was looking like

1756
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 4: it was nowhere close to happening, and then that happened.

1757
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: So Luke, you shouted out Nakamura going into this car.

1758
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 2: Although I was losing, he he kind of pulled it out.

1759
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 2: He's shown flashes of something. But that was a nice win.

1760
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: But the rest of that card.

1761
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, bro one one name guys and uh

1762
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 3: Road to the Octagon, Yeah.

1763
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 2: Road to Road to boredom. At times, Road too distracted scrolling.

1764
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 3: It was one of those I saw Annik What a

1765
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: few weeks ago saying something along the lines of maybe

1766
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: we need to get back to you know, ten or

1767
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: eleven fights. You remember, he was kind of like Shorten,

1768
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 3: you watch events like this sometimes and that's when it

1769
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: comes into play, you know, like you just you know,

1770
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 3: there's just too much.

1771
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: There's too much at the bottom.

1772
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the event overall, because I do think

1773
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: there's are some pointed criticisms that do need to be made,

1774
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 2: as well as some big improvements that also should be underscored.

1775
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: Let's start with the improvements. I thought this broadcast was

1776
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: much better, much better. It started quicker, the pacing was

1777
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: pretty good. I think my so the main event and

1778
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 2: my post show, which went like an hour and twenty minutes.

1779
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 2: I was done at like one p thirty. You know,

1780
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: that's pretty that's pretty early. Usually it's an hour after

1781
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: that that I'm not done. So I thought that that

1782
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:22,560
Speaker 2: part was great. I do think that the picture itself

1783
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: Chuck on the Paramount Plus was glitchy, but the stream

1784
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 2: was steady for me. I don't know how yours was.

1785
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: How did you feel about their pacing? Fewer ads this time?

1786
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: I thought they got this one a lot better.

1787
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 3: Me too, man, The pacing I had I thought was great,

1788
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 3: and especially with the main car, Like the main card

1789
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 3: comes on and it just it felt like.

1790
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: We were just moving very quickly through it.

1791
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 3: And like you said, man, when when you don't have

1792
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 3: guys walk into the cage at midnight for them, you know,

1793
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 3: or beyond midnight twelve thirty for the main event, like

1794
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 3: it feels like a win. But like these ones, you know,

1795
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 3: where you're basically done with the card around midnight. I mean,

1796
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 3: I I can get used to this. But the pacing itself, man,

1797
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: it was much better. I did have some issues. It

1798
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 3: wasn't like so what was happening is I had it

1799
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 3: up on my TV and it would just it would

1800
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: just blink out and then go back to your like

1801
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 3: apps page, and so I'd have to reconnect and go

1802
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 3: back into it. This happened to me like three or

1803
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 3: four times during the action, So I don't know what

1804
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: was going on with that, man.

1805
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: I never really had that.

1806
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 3: Probably have had other problems with ESPN Plus, but that

1807
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 3: wasn't one of them, So I don't know if that's

1808
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: something to you know, it was just a weird thing

1809
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 3: on this one.

1810
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I had no complaints. Man.

1811
01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 3: I thought that even the commercial, like you mentioned, like

1812
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 3: it felt nothing felt defensive or intrusive to this.

1813
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: Now, on the other side of this, the fights were over,

1814
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: and I'm not I this to me was a glorified

1815
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 2: fight night. This to me felt like a UFC Fight

1816
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: Night card with a title fight at the top, which

1817
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 2: they've done before. That's not a thing that that's not

1818
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 2: that they've done the excuse me, that's not a thing

1819
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: that they've shot away from at times. But it kind

1820
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 2: of felt like that where it was just a bunch

1821
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 2: of reach fighters for the most part on the prelimbs,

1822
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 2: and then you had you know, again Colon Salkilt's fine,

1823
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: but like it's a minus one thousand fight as a

1824
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: favorite that he's in. Then you had tied to Ivasa,

1825
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:12,479
Speaker 2: which just why what.

1826
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: The fuck was that?

1827
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: And then the fights at that point had some meaningful

1828
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 2: ranked guys going up against one another and so fair enough.

1829
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 2: But then you're like, well you didn't again hoofy we

1830
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 2: talked about he showed some great promise, but there were

1831
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 2: still some things that were lingering. Comaane Dan takes himself down.

1832
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: I didn't love that BSD, just you know, reaching, and

1833
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 2: then you got a main event where it's like, well,

1834
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,879
Speaker 2: what was the point of that? This is my takeaway

1835
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: from it. I thought the UFC did a much better

1836
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 2: job presenting.

1837
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: At this time.

1838
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 2: However, it felt like a very perfunctory event that you

1839
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 2: could have canceled this one, done it a little bit later,

1840
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 2: more fleshed out, you know, gotten rid of some of

1841
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 2: the pieces, added some better ones, and had a real

1842
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 2: main event. I realized that the calendar and the restrictions

1843
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: that they have in terms of like they've got Australian

1844
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 2: partners that they have to do shows there for. It's

1845
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: part of like their tourism, the deals that they have.

1846
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: I get that.

1847
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying as a fight card. It felt a

1848
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: lot like empty calories to me.

1849
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 3: I agree with you one hundred percent, man, And I

1850
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: think you know obviously front loading the numbered events, I

1851
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 3: guess whatever we're calling them, the numbered event, the the

1852
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 3: former pay per views, and they wanted to have a

1853
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 3: second numbered event to kind of draw in all the

1854
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 3: sub subscribers to Paramount Plus. But this wasn't their best

1855
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 3: effort that way, right, Like I felt like it was.

1856
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 3: I felt the exact same way you did. I was

1857
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 3: more excited about the two lightweight fights than anything else

1858
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 3: on the card. And I mean that was just kind

1859
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 3: of how it was designed. But any of those lightweight

1860
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 3: fights could have easily just been fight nights, right, So

1861
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 3: there was no there was no big bang for the buck,

1862
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 3: like from the days of the pay per view, where

1863
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, this this thing, this hinge fight or

1864
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 3: whatever is going on, we were gonna find out a

1865
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 3: lot about this, I guess to an extent, those lightweight

1866
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 3: fights had some of that, but the way they played

1867
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: out is what you're saying. The way they played out

1868
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 3: in the end didn't leave much for that. Like it

1869
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 3: just felt like you're right, you walk away from it

1870
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 3: just looking forward on the count, you're not really looking backwards.

1871
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: So that's it for me.

1872
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 2: That's our that's our discussion for UFC through twenty five.

1873
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: Let's end today's Top five with a little bit of

1874
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: a discussion around boxing and so what do we have

1875
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: we have from I think it was the ring six.

1876
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: I have to go back a little ring Ring five.

1877
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 2: I forget the actual number, but it doesn't matter. What

1878
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: it really matters is that yeah six, Yeah, chaquurse Stevenson, Yeah,

1879
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 2: ring six, Sorry, Chakor. Stevenson bro handles Tao female Lopez

1880
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 2: handles him. You could easily argue, very easily argue he

1881
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: won all twelve rounds. It's not that difficult to do.

1882
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: I think he got one nineteen on two of the judges' scorecards.

1883
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Chuck, Yeah, is it fair

1884
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 2: to say, following Chakor's win over Teo that Stevenson deserves

1885
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: to be ranked very very if not, if not number

1886
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 2: one pound four pound. He's clearly in that top three eschelon.

1887
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: Now, I think he's got to be man like that.

1888
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: That's the type of thing.

1889
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 3: It's also the escalation, right of like in boxing, like

1890
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: what was you went to the Bud Crawford fight, like

1891
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 3: and I remember you were saying, like this is the

1892
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 3: best live fight I've ever been to when he showcased

1893
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 3: in that moment right like he's yeah because Erl Spence

1894
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 3: and you're in there. There's something about the escalation of

1895
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: a moment and showing up and then doing something like that.

1896
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 3: There were twenty one thousand people's Madison Square Garden. It's

1897
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 3: a big deal, Like you've moven up in wait and

1898
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 3: I think that like just going against a guy like

1899
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 3: Tea Fima, who you know, you know, he's had a

1900
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 3: name for a while now, and it like to go

1901
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 3: in there in a bad blood where you wanted this

1902
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 3: fight and a showcase like that. It's like you said,

1903
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: there's twelve nonh and I had. I have to admit,

1904
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 3: you know, as I'm watching it, I'm doing a postfight

1905
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 3: show in the UFC, so I'm watching it with one

1906
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: eye while I'm talking, and I was able to kind

1907
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 3: of go back and watch through it a little bit more.

1908
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 3: But it's just it was masterclass in the sense that

1909
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: the guy just completely confounded and like, like you're mentioning,

1910
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: you could you could apply the exact same things you

1911
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 3: were talking about Volkanovsky into this fight, like this disruption

1912
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 3: of space, getting in the pocket, you know, but like

1913
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,920
Speaker 3: not getting hit, just being so elusive with his movement,

1914
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 3: his footwork, everything else. Like, dude, it's just a master

1915
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: class performance. And I think sometimes in boxing, especially when

1916
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 3: you get a big event where people are really paying attention.

1917
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: Again it's a big name opponent like that, that's when

1918
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 3: it matters. And uh, and he came through a shinting

1919
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 3: colors man. Yeah, I mean, as far as I'm concerned,

1920
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 3: that dude backed up everything he was going to say.

1921
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 3: And also I'll get your take on this too. I

1922
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 3: mean I love his post fight man. I just think

1923
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: that he's got like a lot of personality in him,

1924
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 3: like you know, going after Connor Ben and all that stuff.

1925
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 3: I'm like, to me, that's this is what you want

1926
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 3: to see, isn't it. Like a guy who's like, I'm

1927
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 3: not satism, I'm gonna even do something crazier next time.

1928
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 2: He was even tweeting yesterday I'm him and I'm like,

1929
01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:58,879
Speaker 2: you know what.

1930
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: To dispute you? You you you.

1931
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 2: Just might be Yeah, I mean you know again, I

1932
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:07,520
Speaker 2: know Max Kellerman is prone to extraordinary levels of hyperbole

1933
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 2: and obsequiousness these days. However, he did make a point

1934
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 2: that I thought was pretty pretty good and pretty interesting,

1935
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: namely that he's like, this is one of those times

1936
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: where like you know, when Floyd had a vintage performance

1937
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: coming up, or even you know Prnell Whitaker when they

1938
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 2: had a vintage performance, and not just as a contender,

1939
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: but I mean, like, you know, really establishing themselves as

1940
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: one of the dominant fighters of their time. You know,

1941
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: this will be looked back on, This win by chakor

1942
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 2: over Lopez will be looked back upon in that kind

1943
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 2: of a way. And I think that's probably correct. This

1944
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: was a real again coming out parties not quite right

1945
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 2: or you know again, this was a put up. The

1946
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: put up the graphic we have of all the titles

1947
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 2: this guy has won. And remember he was coming up

1948
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: a weight class here, right, because he's topically on it

1949
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 2: at thirty five.

1950
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: This was at forty.

1951
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 2: This is, by the way, I won thirty eight and

1952
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 2: some change was the heaviest he's ever been for a fight.

1953
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 2: So he's now won the w BO featherweight title, WBC

1954
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 2: Junior Lightweight, w Junior Lightweight Ring Junior Lightweight, WBC lightweight,

1955
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: ring junior welterweight, which is super lightweight, and then WBO

1956
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 2: junior welterweight. Of course again that's super lightweight, which is

1957
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: at one forty now. So he comes up a weight

1958
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 2: class and dude Lopez could do nothing to him. It

1959
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: really was amazing to me because I missed this fight

1960
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: last I went back and I watched it yesterday. He

1961
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:29,799
Speaker 2: saw everything coming at him. Everything he had, Lopez swinging

1962
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: at air, desperate, and I want to point out something else. Everybody,

1963
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 2: especially casual fans, the hardcore fans too, we all love

1964
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: big punchers. Everybody loves big punchers because it's terrifying to watch.

1965
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 2: But the reality is, if you've got footwork and a jab,

1966
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 2: truly chuck at any weight class, that will take you very,

1967
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: very far.

1968
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: And when you've got.

1969
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: Elite footwork and an elite jab, I don't know who

1970
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 2: can stop you in your respective weight classes. It's to

1971
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 2: me it seems like that's who she Corse Stevenson has become.

1972
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, like in the way that you

1973
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,879
Speaker 3: know Bud Crawford or you know any maestro, right, anybody

1974
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 3: virtuoso goes in there and you're used to especially MMA fans,

1975
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 3: if you've watched MMA and you're trying to watch boxing,

1976
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: there's some guys who will show you the beauty of boxing,

1977
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 3: right they'll when you watch them, they you will see it.

1978
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 3: You will understand something, even if there's the transcends kind

1979
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 3: of just going for knockouts or or that sort of thing,

1980
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 3: just within the movement and grace, you know, and like

1981
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 3: all the stuff like that. And I feel like that's

1982
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: what you got in this fight too, Like it changed.

1983
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 3: Like there's there are certain guys who just communicate the

1984
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 3: nuance of what all that means better than anybody else.

1985
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 3: And to see a guy like if you've if you

1986
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 3: paid attention to you know, tay A Fema, who's had

1987
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 3: some big fights and some big wins, and sometimes he's

1988
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: not showed up. I was at his fight with Barboza,

1989
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: the last one that was on Times Square, and you know,

1990
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 3: I felt like he's I felt like he wasn't all

1991
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 3: the way there, Like wasn't his great performance. But I

1992
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: thought that he would show up in his best form

1993
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 3: and maybe you can tell me, man I if he was,

1994
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: we couldn't see it because he wasn't allowed to be.

1995
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 3: And that's like when you see the guy who can

1996
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 3: do that like Shaquor is doing. Man, it's special. I

1997
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 3: think that that's Those are the guys if you're if

1998
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 3: you're trying to get in the box, that you should watch, right,

1999
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 3: would you agree, like because they're gonna show you something.

2000
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I always like watching power punchers too,

2001
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: and shaquer is never going to be that. But but

2002
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 2: he dares you to he dares you to hit him.

2003
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I mean he's actually he's not.

2004
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 3: He's not high, like he's not doing the Floyd Mayweather thing,

2005
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 3: like here's a defense, you know, Like he's he's daring

2006
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 3: you to hit him. He's just finding him. Is is

2007
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: the problem? That to me is like it's so fun

2008
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 3: to watch. Man, he's a fucking ghost.

2009
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an apparition in there because he's not like

2010
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,679
Speaker 2: ARISLANDI Laura who you know again, I'm not I'm not believing.

2011
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 2: I'm not clowning Vulk. But Vulk was rotating on the outside, right,

2012
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: rotating on the outside. Chaquur kind of just steps to

2013
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 2: you a little bit, steps to you, a little bit,

2014
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 2: steps to you, and then steps out when you throw

2015
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: or he parries the punch or whatever.

2016
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: But dude. He he was chewing Teo femal.

2017
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 2: Lopez to pieces, and I want to point out something

2018
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: that he said at the end of the fight. I

2019
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: don't think we have the clip, but it's been on

2020
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: my mind. Namely, they are asking him, like I think,

2021
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: I think one of the media members asked him, Chuck.

2022
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,599
Speaker 2: They're like, how did you know everything that was coming?

2023
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: You could just see everything? And he was like, I

2024
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 2: do tape study. I do tape study, simple, And I'm like,

2025
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 2: Diego Lopez, are you listening? Are you listening to this man?

2026
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: He's he's a silver medals in the Olympics, maybe even

2027
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,839
Speaker 2: should have had a gold whatever, But like, look.

2028
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: At how good this guy is, and what is he

2029
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: telling you. He does tape study, tape study.

2030
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 2: He actually thinks about what the problem is that he

2031
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: has to solve and comes up with a plan for it,

2032
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: and in a very very you know, simple kind.

2033
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: Of way, but a very direct way as well. I

2034
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: don't know.

2035
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was a virtuoso performance, the kind of

2036
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: thing that really is gonna and I think also from

2037
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 2: a box office standpoint, Chuck, it felt like he took

2038
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: a bit of a turn as a star in the

2039
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 2: sport with this one too, right.

2040
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, so what would you do with him?

2041
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: Like if you're him, because I got to fight, like,

2042
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: you know Dalton's you know you're gonna fight Dalton Smith

2043
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 3: or somebody like who's like one of the title holders.

2044
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: They're like, do you take like the next big step.

2045
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 3: I feel like that's kind of where he wants to go.

2046
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what they want to do with him. Lopez,

2047
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 3: by the way, said he was going to forty seven,

2048
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 3: So I don't know if they're gonna make that Boots fight.

2049
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if Boots can still go to forty

2050
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 3: seven or fifty four. That's an interesting one. But for Shakoor,

2051
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not sure. They were kind of teasing

2052
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: the connor Ben idea as comunicated. Yeah, bro, he would

2053
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 3: fuck me. Where would you do it? Like, I don't

2054
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 3: even know, it doesn't matter.

2055
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 2: He would abuse connor Ben like that's like it's sort

2056
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: of like a ridiculous think.

2057
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 3: So no matter what, now, I think you're right. I

2058
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: think you're right, Like I'm just I guess.

2059
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if he was like one sixty or something,

2060
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 2: I feel a little bit different, But.

2061
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2062
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 2: Who are the title holders at at at one forty, I'm.

2063
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: Not even sure who.

2064
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 3: Dulton's one of them, right, Like say again, Dalton Smith,

2065
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 3: is that the dude's name, Like it's one of them,

2066
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 3: Like they're there are no names.

2067
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,480
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be the types of big draws.

2068
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 2: Richardson Hitchins, Oh, Hitchins is at an interesting one, although

2069
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 2: he's coming.

2070
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: Super real.

2071
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 2: Matias just lost. Keishawn Davis is an interesting one, but

2072
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: I think they're close. Sandor Martin Martin. The other one

2073
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 2: that's kind of interesting. It's a PBC guy is Gary

2074
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:29,520
Speaker 2: Antoine Russell. So last night on ZUFA Boxing, Ryo Valenzuela

2075
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 2: fought and remember he had beaten Pitpull Cruz. Cruz was

2076
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: the one who was just in this last big fight

2077
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 2: against the DC guy here Lamont Roach. But the guy

2078
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 2: who beat Valnezuela before all of this, like Pillar at

2079
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 2: a Post, was Gary Antoine Russell. So that's kind of

2080
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 2: an interesting one. Uh, A couple of East Coast guys.

2081
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 2: You could do that again. I don't know though, what

2082
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: PBC would do in terms of letting their guys just

2083
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: moonlight elsewhere. So we'll see, we'll see, we'll see very quickly,

2084
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 2: very quickly, I do. We want to talk about this

2085
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 2: comine event. And by the way, that ZUFA boxing card

2086
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 2: last night we had Jose Valenzoila defeateding Diego Torres I

2087
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,959
Speaker 2: turned into pieces of it for sure. Sarah hey Bochek

2088
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:11,799
Speaker 2: taking on Radzabtayev.

2089
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 1: He wins via split. That was a fun fight. I

2090
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: watched portions of that.

2091
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 2: The one that was more interesting is I cannot pronounce

2092
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 2: the guy's name, but he knocks out Vosdik Tko in

2093
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: round seven. Vosdik was winning that fight, basically dropped him.

2094
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 2: I think he dropped his opponent at least once or twice.

2095
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 2: And then Vosdik gets dropped twice and he can't recover

2096
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 2: and then they wave it a hell of a comeback

2097
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 2: for him. But that's not what I want to talk about.

2098
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Keishawn Davis. Kishon Davis was in the comane in this one,

2099
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: taking on Jamayn Ortiz. Now a lot of guys know

2100
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 2: who Jamain Ortiz was very good, very crafty, well schooled

2101
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: technical fighter. Davis is becoming a body snatcher. Dropped him

2102
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 2: twice to the body. I believe in this fight could

2103
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 2: not recover finished him off in the twelfth rather than

2104
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 2: this fight going to a decision and then put out

2105
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 2: this call out after the fight.

2106
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 1: Who's on your head list next?

2107
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 4: Devin Hani?

2108
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Why is that the fight for you?

2109
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 6: His father in my DMS keep screenshot of stuff that

2110
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 6: we saying.

2111
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 1: I don't know what he screened silent for, but Devin

2112
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: Haiti Deafiel might hit listen, we make it that happen.

2113
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:15,799
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six. Congratulations Keishaan, Thank.

2114
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 2: You Keishan Davis, a guy who had fucked things up

2115
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 2: for top rank at the end there with his homecoming

2116
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 2: fight totally blew it left Bomack, the legendary trainer of

2117
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 2: Bud Crawford. I was like, oh, I don't know, Chuck.

2118
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: He looked great in this fight, huge redemption.

2119
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 1: Mikes.

2120
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 3: You wish he didn't lose some steam because I was

2121
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 3: at that the Baron Chick fight that happened at the

2122
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 3: MSGY Theater last year, and dude, it was you know

2123
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 3: how you know, like a guy, you.

2124
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Just feel it.

2125
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: There's like some aura with the dude, like he when

2126
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 3: he got in there, man, and he and he fought

2127
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 3: that fight and he won. His won, He won that

2128
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 3: belt he won his first belt, like it. You could

2129
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 3: feel it in the room that this dude was going

2130
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 3: to do something big. That's why when he was going

2131
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 3: back to Norfolk, wasn't it Norfolk where he's from, And

2132
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 3: that whole thing happened. You're like, dude, don't screw this up,

2133
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 3: because we've seen it in an MMA plenty where guys,

2134
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 3: you know, they're having their moment, they do some things

2135
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 3: to screw it up.

2136
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: And I felt like he could do this.

2137
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 3: I That's why this one felt like big to me,

2138
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 3: like kind of you know, up at the new weight,

2139
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 3: but like just kind of.

2140
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: Just show. I felt like he communicated.

2141
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 3: That thing I saw, you know what I mean where

2142
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, this dude is still gonna be a

2143
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 3: problem and then call out Haney. There was nothing wrong

2144
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 3: with any of this stuff.

2145
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: Man.

2146
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 3: So he's twenty six years old, and that's one thing

2147
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 3: good thing about some of these guys we're talking about

2148
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 3: these boxers, man, Like some of these guys are super

2149
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 3: young and they're already at that phenom level or they

2150
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 3: could be, like they could be doing box office type things.

2151
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 1: And I feel like Keishan's definitely one of those dudes. Man, Yeah,

2152
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: I totally agree.

2153
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if he was coming or going, but

2154
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 2: I can there he still has a very bright future.

2155
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 2: Now we're talking about the Kings of the night, but

2156
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: it is a sport of kings. And what else can

2157
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: we say about drill Baby big Baby Miller just getting

2158
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean they they talk about getting your wig split.

2159
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 2: He got his wig split. He literally got his two

2160
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 2: pay punched off. It was like in the tune, dude, dude,

2161
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 2: put up the graphic we have of this or whatever

2162
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 2: whatever we have.

2163
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 1: He putting his head off, hair off of his e

2164
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Come on, Billary, they are about the.

2165
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:29,440
Speaker 2: Car Oh my lord, man bro, the sport of motherfucking kings,

2166
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 2: and then people then here's this guy Nicholson wearing it

2167
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 2: very briefly to uh, lots of laughs around her. I

2168
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 2: don't even know what to say, except, dude, every I've

2169
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: been watching combat sports for basically my entire adult life

2170
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 2: and even longer than that, and I still see something

2171
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: new almost every week.

2172
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that?

2173
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 3: Isn't that the great thing about fighting? It's like there's

2174
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 3: always going to be something like this.

2175
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: Have you have you ever seen some hill?

2176
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 2: This was regional m M, A guy getting his two

2177
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 2: pay punched off, and then he won the fight, by

2178
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:58,839
Speaker 2: the way, he still won.

2179
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 1: He did.

2180
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 3: And then they just have to conduct everything, you know,

2181
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 3: with the like whatever the Pope's thing he's got going on,

2182
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 3: but uh or Julius Caesar, whoeverways to wear the little

2183
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 3: Lord whatever? Oh yeah sorr yeah yeah. But to have

2184
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 3: to go through all of that, at least they had

2185
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 3: a good sidence of humor about it. But man, that

2186
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 3: was that is some wildfoot. It was like a cartoon,

2187
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 3: Like we were watching in slow motion. You're like, this is.

2188
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: What you'd see in a cartoon.

2189
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna paint like an exit on the wall and

2190
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 2: have him run into it, like Wiley Coyota. You know, here,

2191
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,760
Speaker 2: open this box that says act on it.

2192
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: It's a bomb. All right. So that's our topic. By

2193
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: the way, did you watch the super Boxing It was

2194
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: better this time.

2195
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,800
Speaker 3: I didn't watch, but I did catch the Xander's eya.

2196
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 3: So I mean, like that dude too, man, like a big,

2197
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 3: a big deal twenty three years old already, you know,

2198
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: unifying titles like he was in port. I think he

2199
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 3: was a I think Luke would probably Luke long Island

2200
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 3: would know like he was a I thought he was

2201
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 3: a pretty big betting favorite going into this fight.

2202
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 4: But uh, I don't think he was that big considering

2203
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 4: it was boxing. But he was like a minus.

2204
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, I meant, I meant underdog. I thought he

2205
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: was the under dog.

2206
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 4: Oh no, No, he was definitely the favorite because I

2207
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 4: had him in a parlay.

2208
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 3: Okay, well anyway, but like going home, like a big

2209
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 3: showcase Puerto Rico and all that. I thought that that

2210
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 3: was again another young name to pay attention to. He

2211
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 3: was on that same Keyshan Davis card I saw last year,

2212
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 3: and that dude seems like he's got it too.

2213
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 2: Man, Dude, they put a they did a million dollar

2214
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 2: gate in Puerto Rico with did they really no real

2215
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: television partner? That's wild man, it's pretty good. That's pretty

2216
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 2: good some young guys. All right, that's it for our

2217
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 2: top five here today on MK. Now it's time for

2218
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:33,719
Speaker 2: you guys to ask us questions.

2219
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: It's time for dms from the diggity dogs. Here we go.

2220
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 1: That's the sound I make in my wife's ear when

2221
01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: we have children. Here.

2222
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's let's go topic number one here.

2223
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: Let's see what we got from a man and his cat.

2224
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 2: How are you enjoying the hour earlier start for UFC cards.

2225
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 2: Do you think Paramount may play with this more, Chuck,

2226
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's saved my life, but it

2227
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 2: has certainly in terms of last Saturday. I appreciated it

2228
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 2: very much.

2229
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 1: I like it.

2230
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 3: I mean, we've only had two of these so far,

2231
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 3: but like that hour makes such a big difference. Man,

2232
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,719
Speaker 3: it really does, like that those walkouts when they're coming

2233
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 3: well after midnight, man, and it just so countering two

2234
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 3: of it, Isn't it like you shouldn't be exhausted by

2235
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 3: the time your main event comes on. I feel like

2236
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 3: just that saving that one hour, man has made a

2237
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 3: huge difference.

2238
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 1: I love it.

2239
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have much to say just yet, but

2240
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 2: the earlier they can go, the better.

2241
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: And I can't.

2242
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 2: Get I do when I see that, like those they

2243
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: have those Apex cards, because you know, for me, it's

2244
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 2: always question about whether I'm gonna watch Apex cards live,

2245
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: but then they'll be like, oh, the main event or

2246
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 2: the main card starts at like five pm. I'm like, okay,

2247
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 2: all right, deal, I can I can live with this.

2248
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 1: You know what?

2249
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, so we'll see you would you would

2250
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 3: prefer all of the cards are at five pm?

2251
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: Like, if that would that would be ideal for.

2252
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 2: You if they if the fights could end before sundown,

2253
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: it'd be the happiest day of my life. All right,

2254
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 2: let's go next the from a Train, How You Fight?

2255
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 2: Nine to seven nine. The no meritocracy approach worked with

2256
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 2: the Gai Chie Patty fight, but I think it failed.

2257
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: For the UFC last night.

2258
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 2: So what we're talking about is Lopez not really earning

2259
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: it and getting back there. Although I do believe this

2260
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 2: because I was talking about this with somebody else and

2261
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:22,240
Speaker 2: we had mentioned this on Friday, Chuck, which was you know,

2262
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: showing up and having a phenomenal performance at that nocha

2263
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 2: UFC man event against John Silva probably also played a

2264
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,839
Speaker 2: big role. But it's like, dude, who at the UFC

2265
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 2: is watching tape because Silva just doesn't do the things

2266
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 2: that Vulk does. He's again, he moves, but his feet

2267
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 2: are planted. Vulc fucking rotates, you know, It's like it's

2268
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 2: a completely different guy. So like, I would love to

2269
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 2: know what they thought they were going to get this

2270
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 2: time relative to what they actually got and I do

2271
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 2: agree with the spirit of the question, Patty Gai Chee's

2272
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 2: probably okay.

2273
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 1: But even then, due the fighters, not the fans. The

2274
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 1: fighters last.

2275
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 2: Week were like, that's one of the sloppiest main events

2276
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. There's definitely some hazards with this kind

2277
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 2: of matchmaking approach.

2278
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that the uh, the Diego fight

2279
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 3: never happens if he doesn't just drop that one drop

2280
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 3: really in the second round of the first fight might

2281
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 3: have been the like the you know what I mean,

2282
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 3: like that one thing might have just said like, well,

2283
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 3: let's try this again, you know, because he was close

2284
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 3: to that time. It's just ridiculous though, because the fights

2285
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 3: played out exactly the same. So I hope that they do.

2286
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 3: I feel like they kind of went this direction a

2287
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 3: little bit early in the paramount. I'm hoping that that

2288
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 3: corrects itself and we'll, like, we'll kind of resume the

2289
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 3: way we had been doing business before.

2290
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 2: If they make Islam versus usman, I'm gonna be pissed,

2291
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, because it's gonna be a lot of this.

2292
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people are starting to believe they're

2293
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 3: gonna do that. I mean, that's uh, that would just

2294
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 3: be that's a travesty.

2295
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: Waste of everyone's time. Yeah, waste of everyone's time. All right,

2296
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 2: let's see what we got next from Lord Page, not

2297
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 2: Lord Silvia, but Lord Lord Page. Are you surprised none

2298
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 2: of the waits on the three twenty five main card

2299
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 2: called out Moykano for three twenty six. It was right

2300
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 2: there for someone like Saul killed.

2301
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 3: That's funny because no, actually I actually thought, but I

2302
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 3: did think that it's funny that to even mention those two.

2303
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 3: I was like, what would be No, he said he

2304
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 3: wanted a top fifteen guy, right, sall killed, and I

2305
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 3: was like, who would be there? And there's like that

2306
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 3: was one of the names that kind of popped up

2307
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,719
Speaker 3: to me. It was like maybe Moi Kano being thirty

2308
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 3: six kind of on the way out, you know what

2309
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 3: I mean, not not in it as probably like a

2310
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:27,720
Speaker 3: guy that you could take his juice, but he would

2311
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 3: still have reason enough to want to stop a kid

2312
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 3: like this and take his juice. So that's not the

2313
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,040
Speaker 3: that's not the worst call out if he wanted that

2314
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 3: fight along is look.

2315
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:39,639
Speaker 2: Pointing out Moikano just lost Ortega for his March fight

2316
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 2: and actually needs a replacement, right.

2317
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: I think that's why this person's asking, why, oh I

2318
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: see because of that? Yeah looking yeah, yeah, yeah.

2319
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I had not I realized they had

2320
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 2: booked the five, but I had not kept up.

2321
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 1: With that podcast. Brain man, how are we supposed to

2322
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,200
Speaker 1: keep track of the shoes? All right?

2323
01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 2: Next from MMA fan Belfast, Northern Ireland. With heavyweight being

2324
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 2: such a shallow division, why don't we see any two

2325
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 2: of five ers like Alexander Rakitch or Johnny Walker move up?

2326
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 2: Surely their speed and power would see them in the

2327
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 2: top five, if not challenging for a title. It's a

2328
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 2: great question, Chuck, why don't they because I think that

2329
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 2: they should.

2330
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 3: Especially because, like you just said, the loose change in

2331
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 3: the middle type thing, right, Like these guys, some of

2332
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: the ones we're watching now. I used to always say, well, dude,

2333
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 3: that's it's not going to translate like forty pounds difference.

2334
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 3: But I think it actually would benefit a guy who's

2335
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 3: like two twenty five and in shape to go against

2336
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 3: one of those guys. I think that they would have

2337
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 3: a fine, you know what I mean, Like, I don't

2338
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 3: think there's any disadvantage to fighting one of those big

2339
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 3: out of shape guys.

2340
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 1: At this point.

2341
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: It used to be that if you were built like Gronkowski,

2342
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,799
Speaker 2: like you were, like you were a tight end type

2343
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL, you would cut weight down to two

2344
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,640
Speaker 2: oh five. And now I'm like, don't do that, Just

2345
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,440
Speaker 2: go to heavyweight. It's right for the picking there's heavyweight

2346
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 2: has truly in my lifetime, with the exception of like

2347
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: the very early days. Right, but since let's just say

2348
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 2: the Ultimate Fighter, since the Ultimate Fighter, heavyweights never been worse.

2349
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 2: It's never been worse. This is as bad as I've

2350
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 2: ever seen it. Dude, all who the UFC used to have. Dude,

2351
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 2: you mean to tell me Gan McGee can't beat tay

2352
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 2: to Ivas Gan McGee, I bet you're right, You're right.

2353
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 1: What do we have next? From ISAA eight A eighteen? Luke?

2354
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 2: Would you consider getting a hair transplant if you ever

2355
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 2: started to go bald? Yes, Chuck, did a two pe

2356
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: or a hair transplant ever cross your mind? Why aren't

2357
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 2: we doing the Jirell Miller thing if we ever get

2358
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 2: to it?

2359
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh?

2360
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 3: Man, No, no, no, nothing like that. Come on, Why

2361
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 3: don't you want hair?

2362
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 1: Uh? I don't know, but you know what? The weir

2363
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: the weird thing is like.

2364
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 3: You know, like the hat thing is a shtick, but

2365
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 3: like it's like a hat thing has like always been

2366
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 3: a like going back to the beginning, Like you know,

2367
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 3: you look at old pictures always wearing sporting caps and

2368
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 3: stuff like that. If I you know, if you're going

2369
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 3: to cover up the bald head, you're just you put

2370
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 3: on a cap. But I'm like, at the bottom line

2371
01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 3: is I'm like, no, I've never even considered that I

2372
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 3: have had an uncle on my Like I had an

2373
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 3: uncle like on my mom's side. I only knew him

2374
01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 3: just a little bit, like you lived in a different state,

2375
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 3: but like I remember he had a like one of

2376
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 3: those old school two pays of kind of like Gozowias.

2377
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 3: But it just looks so obvious. I mean, like those

2378
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 3: type of things. Yeah, not for me. I I'm not

2379
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 3: opposed to it. I mean I don't really need it

2380
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:19,720
Speaker 3: at the present moment, but.

2381
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I think you're gonna be all right.

2382
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'll probably be all right. But like

2383
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 2: if it ever gets to that, I don't mind doing it.

2384
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't mind a little bit of like help, you

2385
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So if people want to do

2386
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 2: like I think I think personally, unless you're an athlete

2387
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:36,600
Speaker 2: for very specific purpose, taking performance dancing drugs is a

2388
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 2: really fucking stupid idea. And I know that's me saying that,

2389
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 2: but like, if you don't really have a need for it,

2390
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,680
Speaker 2: it's not a good idea to do it. However, if

2391
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 2: you're older and you want to get on TRT and

2392
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: it's medically supervised, I think that's probably a pretty good decision.

2393
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 2: Or you know, for people who want to get like

2394
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of cosmetic work done, I think that's fine.

2395
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 2: But it's like so many people just want to alter

2396
01:43:57,960 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 2: their appearance in ways that part.

2397
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 3: I have a the dudes who are like and there's

2398
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 3: a lot of them, especially in MMA, who are like

2399
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 3: going over to Turkey and yes, guys like I mean Eric,

2400
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 3: Eric Nixon had done it, and like he was like me,

2401
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 3: he caught me and Sean Al shot you when we're

2402
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,639
Speaker 3: backstage in Vegas last year and he's like, uh.

2403
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, you got to go to Turkey. You know,

2404
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 1: he's torsing it.

2405
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 3: But there's also the dudes with the teeth like this

2406
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 3: whole like, oh the Veneers, Yeah, the Veneers. And I'm like,

2407
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 3: I mean, there's something like, that's just going. It's just

2408
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 3: a little too weird for me. So these guys there,

2409
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 3: let me tell you something. Okay, if you want hair,

2410
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 3: you gotta go to Turkey. If you want new teeth,

2411
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 3: you have to go to Columbia, Right that's where.

2412
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 2: Oh that's dude, dude, I'm telling you, Carto Handa, Columbia

2413
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 2: is the capital of better teeth. But these people don't

2414
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 2: know what they're doing. So they get the big ass

2415
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 2: veneers and then they smile and all of a sudden,

2416
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,600
Speaker 2: it's like, dude, why did your teeth grow double the

2417
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: size because you got the wrong size fucking veneers and

2418
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,520
Speaker 2: you you did it and with the wrong place. Columbia

2419
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 2: is where you have to go for teeth. Number one

2420
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 2: place in the world for teeth.

2421
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,480
Speaker 1: Telling you it's an educational show.

2422
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, it's do we So when we go

2423
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 2: to Cartagena for the beach, we we often stay in

2424
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 2: this one location that's like a really nice uh. Like

2425
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,879
Speaker 2: these buildings are just basically like giant Airbnb places.

2426
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah uh, And we.

2427
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 2: Rent this apartment and it's in this it's in this

2428
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,800
Speaker 2: nice area. And every time we go there's always it's

2429
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 2: not always women, but it's usually women a variety of

2430
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 2: ages where their faces they've literally just had surgery, and

2431
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 2: they have nurses who get them up and down the

2432
01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 2: elevator so they can go to stuff and then like

2433
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: tend to them.

2434
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,599
Speaker 1: So, like what I'm saying is these people just rent

2435
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 1: airbnbs to go get surgery or dental work or whatever

2436
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: and then have like nursing staff cater to them while

2437
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 1: they're waiting in the airbnbs And you can see this

2438
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 1: ship the whole time. You know, it's crazy.

2439
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 3: Did they still like, uh, what was the thing that

2440
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 3: they used to import? It was cocaine? Do they still

2441
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 3: do that from a Columbia? Is that all done now?

2442
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 2: Those days people make a lot of cocaine jokes because

2443
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 2: that's the only thing they can think of as Columbias

2444
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 2: hanging fruit right, Like as Columbia will be the first

2445
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 2: to tell you, we're the ones doing the coke right

2446
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 2: they're shipping it out. If I could say anything about

2447
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 2: the Colombians, and I truly mean this, I absolutely mean this.

2448
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 1: They are massive drinkers. Yeah, drinkers, buddy. They just drink

2449
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: all the time. All this is fun, crazy, It's a lot.

2450
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 2: Of fun, except when you were getting to your fifties

2451
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 2: and you're like, I can't fucking do this anymore.

2452
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Well, that is truly because I think we have one more.

2453
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: We have one more.

2454
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 2: No, that's it, that's it, all right, all right, So

2455
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 2: now before we get to this last piece, I just

2456
01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 2: want to show this we don't do Have you seen

2457
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 2: this shit anymore? Because be season I here. We'll bring

2458
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 2: it back on occasion. But I saw one clip, Chuck, Chuck,

2459
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:47,160
Speaker 2: have you been to you? Does your wife go with

2460
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:48,759
Speaker 2: YouTube sporting games?

2461
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: By chance? She does?

2462
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes you guys, ever, get on the kiss cam?

2463
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,479
Speaker 2: We have not no if you got on the kiss cam,

2464
01:46:56,840 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 2: would you do this? Oh my lord, this is Pittsburgh.

2465
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 1: Bless their art. She didn't even hesitate. It was like

2466
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,760
Speaker 1: she'd been waiting for that moment. One more time, one

2467
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: more time. Here we go. Listen, listen. I don't know

2468
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 1: what's in the air in Pittsburgh, but I know it's love.

2469
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 1: I know love is in the air in Pittsburgh. Pencil.

2470
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 1: It's a different kind of cam. Whatever that was, but

2471
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 1: that was that was good.

2472
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, cam girls, maybe I don't know them, Yeah, exactly.

2473
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: All right, Long Island, this is now your show. Take

2474
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 1: it away we go.

2475
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 4: All right, so we're gonna play a game called Eskimo Brothers.

2476
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 4: Got to give you three fighters. You're gonna tell me

2477
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 4: their mutual opponent, but you're going head to head, so

2478
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:40,599
Speaker 4: first one to guess it correctly.

2479
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll get.

2480
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 2: The once again. I'm glad you're introducing trivia into the show.

2481
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 2: For the two guys least capable of performing this.

2482
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 3: There's a reason we haven't been invited back to the

2483
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 3: trivia show.

2484
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 1: This and it just goes poorly.

2485
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 4: Luke, was just on last week you just slam dunk

2486
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 4: on me. Bet Yeah, all right, well guys, this one

2487
01:47:57,400 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 4: is called Eskimo Brothers.

2488
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Right by you Monus points Chuck. Who was that? Who

2489
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 1: was I don't know? That was Big Bang Sang? You

2490
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: know him?

2491
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, really, I bang you big Bang guy guy.

2492
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,600
Speaker 1: First up, it's gonna be at middleweight.

2493
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 4: Who is the mutual opponent of Robert Whitaker, Michael Bisping

2494
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:23,719
Speaker 4: and Chris Widman.

2495
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Damn, that was good, nailed. I would have got

2496
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 1: that too if I just yeah, that's all right, all right,

2497
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 1: good John, Luke.

2498
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:36,759
Speaker 4: Up, next, we got the mutual opponent of Tatsuro Tyra Davison,

2499
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 4: Figuredo and Steve erseg.

2500
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 2: It's not royval right, No, no, who ask?

2501
01:48:50,200 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: No it is? I'm not sure for Moreno? Yeah? Is

2502
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,639
Speaker 1: that really? Yes? Of course it is right.

2503
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 4: For Figgie and he had that fight in the headlined

2504
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 4: Mexico City against That's right, man, I forgot all about

2505
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 4: that one, all right. I'll give that point to Chuck

2506
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 4: because he got it. So one one up. Next we

2507
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 4: got Max Holloway, Josh Emmett and Dan Hooker.

2508
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 2: M oh man, it's not Arnold Allen, is it?

2509
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 4: It is not Arnold Allen, although Arnold Allen also, No.

2510
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 2: He didn't fight Emmett, right because he fought I know

2511
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 2: he fought the other two. Jesus, I don't know.

2512
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 4: This one's tough because you know there's a couple of

2513
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:46,599
Speaker 4: featherweights turned lightweights in there.

2514
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: But you give us a hint.

2515
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 4: The hint is it's a it's a current top ten featherweight, okay, um,

2516
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:00,679
Speaker 4: and one of these fights is so hard to remember.

2517
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 4: I'll give you guys another five, give us one more. Well,

2518
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 4: let's all right, he's top five right now?

2519
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: Really surprising. I feel like I'm just spacing on this.

2520
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 1: Then it's not ya it is?

2521
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, your for Dan Hooker? Is that the

2522
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 4: one you don't remember?

2523
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 3: Because I don't remember that I thought about him, and

2524
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 3: that's why I should have just said it.

2525
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 4: It was in the UFC one ninety ish era.

2526
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't remember memory, hold that fight?

2527
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 4: That fight, I believe, Yeah here, wow, I don't remember

2528
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 4: that either. All right, up next we got JDS, Alexander Volkov,

2529
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 4: Serge Spiback, My Lewis. All right, so, yes, Derek Lewis

2530
01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 4: is correct, but not for this question. The thing here

2531
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 4: is all three of these guys finished this man in

2532
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 4: round two.

2533
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 1: It's a different whoa.

2534
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 4: The reason I had to get so specific is because

2535
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 4: every heavyweight just fought each other, so there was just

2536
01:50:55,360 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 4: way too many rights. Right, Derek Lewis so finished in

2537
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 4: the second round. Yes, all three of them finished this man.

2538
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 4: The reason it's obviously not Derek Lewis because Derek Lewis

2539
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 4: beat Volkov?

2540
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Right, is it Arlovsky? No? But this man also fought

2541
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 1: Andre Arlovsky. I'm really bed at this.

2542
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 4: He is currently a top fifteen heavyweight.

2543
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there's just anyone off the street at

2544
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: this point.

2545
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but someone who thought JDS, who's currently top fifteen.

2546
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 1: There's not that many guys that.

2547
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 4: Some would say he doesn't deserve his spot after not

2548
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 4: winning a fight in four years. Joy Vassa, Yes, sir, really,

2549
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, lost in the second round to all three.

2550
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, Okay, I mean I knew he fought.

2551
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 2: I knew he fought. Uh Volkov. I don't remember the

2552
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 2: Spivak fight even a little bit.

2553
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:01,679
Speaker 1: It was more than one.

2554
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 4: I think it was the fight just before the rosen

2555
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 4: Strike fight. So it's like during this current losing streak,

2556
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,639
Speaker 4: I believe. Uh. Next up we got oh sorry, I'm

2557
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 4: not sure how that one got in there.

2558
01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: We'll just switch to the next one.

2559
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 4: So next up, we got Tracy Cortes, Michelle Waterson and Jessica.

2560
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Speaker 1: Onrage Me unis. Yeah, Chuck, that was quick with that one,

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01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: was very quick, very good. Is it three to one now, Chuck?

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01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:26,920
Speaker 4: I believe.

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01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't get I didn't get partial credit

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01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:30,719
Speaker 2: for the featherweight one.

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01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you're oh you did, You're right, You're right,

2566
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: all right?

2567
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 4: Three, three, two, anyone something like that.

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01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right.

2569
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 4: Next up we got Sean Brady, Cowboys, Seroni and Vicente.

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01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 1: Luke, is it Leon Edwards? Yes, Luke. Great.

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01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 4: Wow, So now we're tied boys three three we go.

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01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 4: Next up, we got song You Dong, Dominic Cruz and

2573
01:52:54,560 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 4: Frankie Edgar favor. No, he's he's not in no favor.

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01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 4: Wouldn't have know that's exactly right?

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01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:07,720
Speaker 1: Is it?

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01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 8: Guccierras Nope, he wouldn't have thought. Uh, Dominic Cruz, rank.

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01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:26,360
Speaker 1: You Edgar, it's not shudo current top ten.

2578
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 4: YEP, top ten bantam waight um bro goes by his

2579
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 4: nickname more than his first name. Man good friends with

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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 4: action Bronson.

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01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 2: Oh cheeto vera right, man?

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01:54:00,040 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: I should have got that. Come on, all right, that's

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01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 1: four three l T.

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01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 4: Next up, we got Tabitha Ricci, Valentina Schivchenko and Aaron Blanchefield.

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01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 3: Zero rosso Chuck got it, she's got a Naudi, she's

2586
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 3: got an Audi.

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01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: There you go ties it up.

2588
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:26,200
Speaker 4: Number nine we got Vulcan Ozdemir, Yuri Prajasca and Jan Blohovich.

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01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 4: This one, there is two correct answers and both I

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01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 4: have except.

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01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill. Final.

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01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, uh, Dominic what's his name?

2593
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is one of them.

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01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll also give your point if you can name

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01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 4: the other.

2596
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh uh jeez, I don't know.

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01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 4: Right, fight all these dudes, yes, under rackets.

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01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ray is all right.

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01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 4: We're going to count that as what five?

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01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 1: One and one? Yeah, so you got one? He got

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01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 1: to the last one.

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01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 3: Here we go, last one we should gonto.

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01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 4: Justin Gachi and half a do yeah, yes, just talking

2604
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:23,520
Speaker 4: about all this.

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01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 1: Damn it.

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01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 4: The win I know that one was gave me. I

2607
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 4: didn't know it was going to come down to the

2608
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 4: last one. I would have made the last one a little.

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01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 4: We enjoyed that.

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01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: That was we stunk. We stunk up the joint on

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01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 1: the west. We did.

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01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 2: That's what we did, Long Island. What do you have

2613
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 2: going on this week?

2614
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 4: I'll have the usual bet breakdown out tomorrow. We'll have

2615
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 4: pop Quiz Friday, and then full card watch a long

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01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 4: Saturday card starts at five p m. Still prelim May

2617
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 4: Cards eight pm. This is Bautista.

2618
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 2: Versus r This apex Corn actually has a few fights

2619
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 2: on it that are pretty interesting.

2620
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:57,560
Speaker 1: It should be it should be a fun time.

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01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 2: I forgot to ask this at the top of the show.

2622
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 2: How did your betting go over all this weekend?

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01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: Uh?

2624
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 4: So, prelims did great main card, absolutely blew it, but

2625
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 4: I be you take a bath on so I.

2626
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 1: Blame two of usaid to share. I needed the under

2627
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 1: two and a half.

2628
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 4: I had that parlaid with the over one and a

2629
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 4: half Hooker BSD which did hit, and Vulk which did hit.

2630
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: So you know, that fight kind of blew it for me.

2631
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 4: I had a physive money line bet that obviously didn't

2632
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 4: go well, and I took the over one and a

2633
01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 4: half in malarkey Soyle killed which was nowhere near hitting.

2634
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, not a great week, all right, Very good, Chuck.

2635
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 2: What's coverage plan for the week?

2636
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

2637
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm not exactly sure. I know there'll

2638
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 3: be some stuff coming up this week in terms of

2639
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 3: like preview for that card. That's why I was asking,

2640
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 3: because you get to Monday after a pay per view

2641
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 3: and you're like, I haven't even started to look at.

2642
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 2: This again, and again I can't. I can't name who

2643
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: was on a card in the last week.

2644
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 3: I can't do it, but I I know there I'll

2645
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 3: have some stuff. It's I'll probably have a little feature

2646
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:55,560
Speaker 3: coming out on Thursday or Friday and then and then

2647
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 3: post probably a post column.

2648
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: Very good, all right, Uh, let's from ee. You want

2649
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 2: to email the show. We still do dead wrongs, We

2650
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 2: still do fan subs. We'll just do them a little

2651
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 2: bit later, a little more sparingly. Let's put it that way.

2652
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 2: You can email the show for any reason, really, though,

2653
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 2: but Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Don't forget the merch

2654
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 2: Morningcombat dot Shop shop Morningcombat dot Shop.

2655
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 1: We'll have new releases.

2656
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 2: The new design will be out on Friday for this month,

2657
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 2: and we'll give it maybe a bit of an extended

2658
01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 2: grace period in terms of your opportunity to get it,

2659
01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 2: and then you can follow us on all the socials

2660
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 2: that we have on x on ig, on YouTube and

2661
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 2: everything in between. Chuck, any final thoughts before we get

2662
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 2: out of here.

2663
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 1: Let's just scrub that one from our memory and move

2664
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 1: on here.

2665
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 3: All right, it wasn't that bad, but it was not

2666
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 3: too memorable, so we'll not.

2667
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: Too remember one. I think it's about the right way

2668
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 1: to put it.

2669
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 2: Enjoy the super Bowl this coming weekend, and of course

2670
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 2: we'll join you guys again here on Friday for MK,

2671
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 2: then for Chuck I'm lt and for the whole staff

2672
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke and everyone in between. Appreciate you guys watching,

2673
01:57:57,720 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 2: We'll catch you next time, and until then, may all

2674
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:01,120
Speaker 2: of your gains be loyal