1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: you filthy horse. Your husband's gone and we've got books 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books, 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoir, it's Martinis. Clebrity Book 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Club can read it while it's hot. Celebrity Book Club, 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: are alloud. Celebrity book say it loud and cloud. Celebrity 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: book Club. Buzzman. I brought the queer foe, Hey best friend. 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday afternoon and it's a sunny day in midtown Manhattan. 10 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm Lily and I'm Steven and this Celebrity book Club 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: with Stephen and Lily. You already knew that. Suddenly we 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: are morning show. It's seven am. I'm on seven cups 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: of Duncan. I have eight traffic com monitors like running 14 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: um so I have an outfit reveal. Even though this 15 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: is radio, this is our huge reveal. This is our 16 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: first day recording. We literally are in midtown at the 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: iHeart Studios on fifty fifth Street. I feel like, can 18 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: you doc them? Not cool? Don't reveal addresses. Um, I 19 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: absolutely feel like Harry Bradshaw and and just like that 20 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: was here, I think Shay was here. President. I'm sitting 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: in Shaise seat. I have been crowned the Shay of 22 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. Woke button. I know now that we're 23 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: at iHeart, I wonder if we can get a woke moment. 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: But oh sorry, it's woke moment not Yeah, now that 25 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: it's four years old, let's bring it back. Um, this 26 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: studio is it's like in a virgin Mecha store. No, 27 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: we're in a virgin megastore. I feel like we're in 28 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Josie and the Pussycast right now. It's still like open 29 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: the store and they're like, welcome, ladies. What can we 30 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: get you? Cappuccino's, water, Coca cola, McDonald's. I were like 31 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: bags and everything's so maud and it's like very bean virgin. 32 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: It's virgin. It's the Yola not Yola Hotels. What's Yotel Yotel. Yeah, 33 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: the studio is red, just like both of our phones, 34 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: both of our Bano inspired the chairs are red. Nineteen 35 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine. I feel like an awesome fucking chick. No, 36 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: I know, I'm like head to toe limited too, and 37 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: but I'm wearing reveal. I'm wearing my shirt, my t 38 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: shirt right now for you of a dead now closed 39 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: down Boston radio station. Oh my god point five Who 40 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: says mix Fest two thousand, Oh it's tied. Yeah yeah. 41 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: Mix Fest was a concert they hosted on the back 42 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: gets supposedly signed by the Baronaked Ladies. Mine point five was, 43 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: of course, kind of the precursor to does all those 44 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: like Mike FM? Yeah, I think they do in some 45 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: where do you exist anymore? I mean, hello Digital Ascar. 46 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: iHeart coworkers, But when I'm in another city, I'll hear 47 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: a Jack FM. Yeah, where they're just like Donna Summer 48 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: run five. Well, they had that famous ad that was 49 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: always Jennifer Lopez Donna Summers Mark Anthony, and it was 50 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: like that was supposed to be the iconic variety that 51 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: you would be able to hear a mixed Nay point five, 52 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: which is like a very gay variety, right mix Nanti 53 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: point five. It's like the dentist station. Yeah, because it 54 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: is eighties, but like they're not playing rap, I'll say that, 55 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: but they're playing like z and in a full circle way. 56 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: The iHeart Studio is besides the bright virgin red of 57 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: the actual recording on air booth that we're in. The 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: rest of this office is Stark White, which is getting 59 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Dentist office. Yes, it's Dentist meets Josie and the Pussycats. 60 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: There are these like tiered stadium stairs that are also 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: reminiscent of, like the Time outstairs, Like if you're say, 62 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: visiting from Florida and like waiting to meet like a 63 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: creepy Elmo, they're kind of reminiscent of that. Do you 64 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: mean the t kts Yes, stairs, not Time Out New York, 65 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: the magazine no tickets right, oh Timeout. I guess I 66 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: was calling Time Square time Out. I've read named okay, okay, 67 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: every media more get out of media world. I know. 68 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm like tickets time out sidebar about time Out not 69 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: to stall, but you're stalling. The Timeout offices double as 70 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: the advertising agency that Will Smith works at an hitch stop. Yes, 71 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: that's shot at the Time Out Offices, which I think 72 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: is like above Chelsea Market and may or may not 73 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: exist anymore, but it's a dope. It's like very early 74 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: two thousands, like business chick office, I know, and of 75 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: course watching hitch I'm thinking Midtown Little did I know? 76 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: It's still Hitch one of the best movies, another one 77 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: of them, kind of like, you know, they don't make 78 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: him like they used well because now boke moments. Yeah, 79 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: people are like they're always so like, oh, let me 80 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: get this straight. Kevin James ends up with Cameron Diaz. 81 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: Does that happen in that movie there? In that movie? Yeah, 82 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: it was him and even Mendez. Okay, you need to rewatch. 83 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: So there's two stories going on. Hitch is like a 84 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's a matchmaker, he's a teacher, okay, quickly, 85 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: and then have we ever like gotten so fast? The 86 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: second Weekly two thousands of movies so we can't get 87 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: enough of Cameron Diaz and ten reasons why she needs 88 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: to retire. Okay, we will get to the book. I'm 89 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: just saying hitches about Hitch is like he's a love 90 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: he's a casanova, like he teaches men how to seduce women, 91 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: and Kevin James hires hitch Will Smith to teach him 92 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: how he can like seduce Cameron Diaz because he's like, 93 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: I'll never get like all okay, so it's kind of 94 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: a Syrano de Bergerac And then it's the same, right, 95 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: At the same time, Hitch is trying to seduce even Mendes. 96 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: But actually doing your own love game is a little 97 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: bit harder than teaching. I'm assuming the more or the 98 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: story is like yourself or whatever. Definitely, which funny enough, Yes, 99 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: is the theme of the book we read this week. 100 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: We read, um, I was gonna call her a sexual icon, 101 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: but I take it back. Sorry, on a sexual icon, 102 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: not a sexual icon. No, I was going to call 103 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: her in asexual icon. Yeah, but after reading flash, hearing 104 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: this book, I'm I don't know how I'm more, but well, 105 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready to hear argument. We'll absolutely discuss. Our whole 106 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: thing is just like, get out of my house. Get 107 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: out of my house and go on, stop talking to me. 108 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: Where's my right? But okay, let's say her name. It'll 109 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: say her name. One of the only EGOT winners, the 110 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: iconic longtime host of the Views Starting Me Award winner 111 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: for the film Ghost Star of Sister Act one and two, 112 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: Karina Karina, which I love. Right because it's all about 113 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: Nanny's or as you call them, babysitters of worse. We're 114 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: talking about none of them. Goldberg and her extremely random 115 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: book from like twenty eleven called if someone says you 116 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: complete me run whoop is biships. So this is a 117 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: book that no one asked for it, So what asked for? 118 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: And usually when you think of Whoopee, you're like iconic, 119 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: hilarious activists. Yes, you don't think like love love gouber 120 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: relationship icon She has famously been married three times, three times. 121 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: She has had two living boyfriends, and I guess but 122 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: in the thing about Ted Danson, which is inarguably her 123 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: most famous relationship, they didn't even live together. No, they 124 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: did not live together, but this is wild. I thought 125 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: they had just gotten together over the film Made in America, 126 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: which is like also such a nineties plot that I 127 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: saw at like age five. It's like a movie about 128 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: a woman that like does artificial insemination and then her 129 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: teen who she has as nia long like discovers who 130 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the sperm is and it's Ted Danson. Oh yeah, and 131 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: she's like, what my dad's white like and whoopies like 132 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell you, and then like there 133 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: was so much fun race play happening in the nineties. 134 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: Remember she was in that movie The Associate. Have you 135 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: seen that? Oh yeah, I based my life off that movie. 136 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: There are several Whoopee movies that I this is where 137 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, she's ace. I always thought she's closeted. Like 138 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: my entire childhood personality was based on Whoopee movies. Two 139 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: movies The Associate, where she pretends to be a man 140 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: so she can oh white man so she can be 141 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: accept that on Wall Street, right, and like she uses 142 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: like or she knows she does a crazy prosthetic does 143 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: she has white face? Because for most of times she 144 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: doesn't actually have to like appear, she's only like sending 145 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: phone calls or whatever, like facts. Yeah, Like she's like, 146 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: see if you only fact, who's the mysterious like Jim Gordon, 147 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: who's like running Wall Street. And then she does have 148 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: to appear. It's on board meeting and she wears insane 149 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: for us that os and it's fully white chokes. And 150 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: then the other movie that I based my personality on 151 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: was the movie Eddie, where she's at a next game 152 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: and like wins of sweepstakes where she gets to like 153 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: try to throw a half court shot and she gets 154 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: it in and like wins tons of money and then 155 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: becomes like the coach of the basketball team. And I 156 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: was like, I want that to happen to me. You 157 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: want to sweep steaks? Will ever win a sweepstakes other 158 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: than me taking you to the kiss? When away, jingle ball, 159 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: when I want tickets on the radio, and shout out 160 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: corporate Radio is now laid in with references to corporate radio. 161 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: We Heart clear Channel um. About a few days before 162 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: the pandemic, at Friend of the Pod Alex's Dike soccer tournament, 163 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: I won the raffle of a massive malin and gets 164 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: set moisturizer, face wash, shampoo, conditioner, lip bompait. And you 165 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: know that my mom want to afford escape one no, 166 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: And I'm always like, where where's the escape? She like 167 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: took the cash or whatever. She was just like, you 168 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: could take a cash equivalent if you want, okay, because 169 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: she was just like, I don't need this bright yellow scape. 170 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: So this book is like basically all about how like 171 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: you need to be yourself in a relationship, about how 172 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to get married, she doesn't want to 173 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: live with anyone, Like you need to set your needs 174 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: out because then the relationship will fail. This okay, let's 175 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: just say this book is so random. It is full 176 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: of the most banal, generic advice. She's constantly being like, 177 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: my friends like keep asking me, whoopee, when's the right 178 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: time to like get out of a relationship? And you're 179 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: just like the most vague general question that you your 180 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: very general group of friends is asking you what are 181 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: you talking about? She starts all of the chapters by 182 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: going ask woobee, yeah, and then reads a yeah, like 183 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: this question that you're like, did someone give this to you? 184 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I love her convertational audiobook style of the book, but 185 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: it also reveals the book to I questioned whether this 186 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: book was even written a book. Yeah, I do think 187 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: that she was rambling to a tape recorder. It was 188 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: transcribed your book, and then she reperformed for the audiobook. 189 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: That's basically what we're doing here, because like she'll just 190 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: do a side. She'll be like, wait, did I just 191 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: get really deep? Okay, anyway, or she'll do anyways, she'll 192 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: do this thing of like the moment she gets a 193 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: tiny bit personal, she goes, but we're not talking about that, 194 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, aren't we We're talking about relationships 195 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: for someone who wrote a book about relationships, has been 196 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: married three times, has had seven abortions, which is like, 197 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: go all the way off this. Well, have you seen 198 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: her original HBO stand up from like the eighties. No, 199 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: she talks about abortion. It was like a groundbreaking moment 200 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: where she talks about how she gave an abortion with 201 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: a wire hanger at fourteen. Well, I think this was 202 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: interesting as like obviously would be as a revolutionary and 203 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: a groundbreaker and a legend and a changemaker. This book, 204 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: even though it's written in twenty eleven, feels like it 205 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: was kind of written in nineteen eighty four. Yes, it 206 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: still has like a it's in the humor section at 207 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Border's vibe about it so well, and all of her 208 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: advice is being like women, let me tell you something. 209 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: You need to sign a prenup and you need to 210 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: get a job so you can support yourself if your 211 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: man dumps you. It's really just like it was written 212 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: like the dawn of women's lips, just like, women, what 213 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: if you figured out a way to make your own money. 214 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of just like, I think we're already post 215 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: girl Buss at this point. You're on the view currently 216 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: fighting with like Elizabeth Hasselback, like a Republican conservative, like 217 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: who's making her own money? But it's like evil right, 218 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: and even Elizabeth Hasbeck is already being like, yes, prenup, 219 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: like women should work right, or she'll be like, men, 220 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: after your work, you need to go home and help 221 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: out your wife. Like it's like being like you need 222 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: to help out the kids she goes, or your husband. 223 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: This whole book is very like or if you're gay 224 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: all the or if you're gays. But she's like, I know, 225 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: like you want a prince charming or for maybe my 226 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: gay women, you want a princess Charmita. That was very 227 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: it was princessa Charmita, appreciate princess. That was very us. 228 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: It's yeah, there's a lot of references to gay people. 229 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I guess this book to me is very like it's 230 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: her making all these vague excuses for why she hasn't 231 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: come out. She hasn't come out as ace where she's 232 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: just like, I really didn't like being a relationship. I 233 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: want to be able to fart in my house. This 234 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: book is, Oh, it's all about sex. It's all about farting. 235 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: It's very scatological. She talks about loving the smell of 236 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: her own fart. Yes, she talks about going into the 237 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: bathroom I like, not wanting to flush the toilet, yes, 238 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: after you take a duke, you know. I read that. 239 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: I was like, are we talking about like being so 240 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: perk slope like saving water here right? Or I wrote 241 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: in my crazy notes here just toilet flush. And She's like, 242 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: what do I want relationship? I want to smell my 243 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: own self in the bathroom. I don't want to smell 244 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: your funk. It's like, yeah, you could just be talking 245 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: about general pheromones and scent, but it sounds like you're 246 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: talking about shit. Yeah. I mean she brings up forty 247 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: Movie six or seven times. Oh, because she says when book, 248 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: you know, when you're in the honeymoon stage you walk away. 249 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: This is all this thing where it's just like this 250 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: is the most like generic thing that anyone has ever said, like, 251 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, when you're first dating you don't want to fart. 252 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Carrie talks about this in sect in the 253 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: city in two thousand and five, you know what I mean. 254 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm sure people were saying that 255 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: like the sixties and like miss Manners, probably thirteen sixties, 256 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: when was the first well, I guess as a gay man, 257 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,119 Speaker 1: as she would say, I guess in your current relationship, 258 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: May I ask, have you you're kind of you know, 259 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: still in the in the year that kind of encapsulates 260 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: that honeymoon stage. What was the first time you really 261 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: Latin one? Yeah, I guess for gay relationships there is 262 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: it's a little different. It's a little different because there 263 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: is like you are actually always running up against the 264 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: scatological question because yeah, as you know, there can be 265 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: shit involved in that process. And so you know, I'm 266 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: of the philosophy of hashtag no douching. I like to 267 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: be natural. I don't think that my assholes verry paved tunnel, 268 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: ferry whoppy, you know, And a lot of gay men 269 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: are like, no, you have to wake up in the 270 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: morning and douche because you don't know when you're gonna 271 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: get fucked. It's not really how I lived my life. 272 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: But I think you you kind of have to just 273 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: like accept that it's a part of life and move 274 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: the other way. And I do think that there should 275 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: be I don't know. I guess I'm of two minds 276 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: because on the one hand, I'm like, oh, the bottom 277 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: should be allowed to fart every now and then because 278 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: he's getting fucked. So it's just like you know that 279 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: that is creating pockets of air within the anal canal 280 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: and the release in their trap. And then the other hand, 281 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, the top should be allowed to fart 282 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: occasionally because he's a man. He's the man, and you know, 283 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like masculine to be disgusting and 284 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: not care. So I think, you know, everyone gets a couple, 285 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: a couple passes here and there. I will say what 286 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: I will take away from Whippe that I think is accurate. 287 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: She's always about like, you know, as long as everyone 288 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: knows what they're signing up for and you're being honest 289 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: about the conversation, then it's okay to have the conversation. 290 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: So as that applies, deferdi and I would say, if 291 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: you can kind of chuckle and admit that like oops, 292 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: like that was a little gross or whatever, and I'm 293 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: sorry you're a kind of laugh but like not not 294 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: be so cute about it, but also not be so 295 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: like fuck, yeah, I just ripped one. Guys that Whoopie's 296 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: main point in this book is like, don't be surprised, 297 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: which I always think is true by something your lover 298 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: does down the line, because it's like you kind of 299 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: always knew. Yeah. I think one of her big kind 300 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: of takeaways of this book is that people don't change. 301 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: They are who they are, and you need to figure 302 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: out as much as you can at the beginning of 303 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: a relationship for the other shoe drops, and be as 304 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: feeling about yourself as you can be at the beginning 305 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: of a relationship, and be honest, I think, and there's 306 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: an element if I really agree with her, just because 307 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: it's not about just being honest with you other person. 308 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: It's about being honest with yourself and about being vigilant 309 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: about your own desires about what you want from a partner, 310 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: so that ak what you're going to be upset about 311 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: not having or not you know what need is not 312 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: gonna be met later. You can't be mad at yourself, 313 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, because oh this person is an X y Z, 314 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: because you always knew that, and so you can't just 315 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: suddenly start to resent them for that years down the line. 316 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: And I think we've all been guilty of that absolutely 317 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: point in relation because you're like, oh, well whatever, And 318 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: as she says, you got into a relationship because you 319 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: wanted to have dinner with someone every night. That part 320 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: I thought was insane. I know, she goes on this 321 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: whole rant about how like she knows someone who says, 322 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: I want to have dinner with someone every night, I'm 323 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: tired of going which this will part was also so eighties. 324 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: She was like, I'm tired of going to a restaurant alone, 325 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: and we'll say go to a restaurant. Yeah, She's like, 326 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: that's not a reason to being in a relationship, and 327 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, would be that is the relationship? Yeah, 328 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: it is going to dinner, like it's literally dining companion. 329 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I might become asexual if 330 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: I was on the View, Like either you want to 331 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: get like fucked hard I think if you're on the View, 332 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: or like you want to see no one I mean 333 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: is getting fucked by around the clock. You need to 334 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: turn that energy. But the View is different. It's like 335 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: always so insane. Mega mcannon's showing up in her bot. 336 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: I mean, women yapping, you're like fighting at seven am 337 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: about like about like taxes with Joy Behart's just I 338 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: can know that would invert my fight in a minute. 339 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: Whoope says you know she doesn't want to be married 340 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: because she realizes all of her scent reasons, which she 341 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: lists and then she goes, But there are those times 342 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: when I need it, you know what I'm saying. So 343 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: I make a call and I get mine, and I'm like, 344 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: and then she keeps calling it a drive unit and run. 345 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: Sometimes you need a hit who is coming over and 346 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: fucking apartment and fucking the shit out of her when 347 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: she talks about that French guy who has quote the 348 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: eight year old eighty year old actor who's in breathless, 349 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: and she's like, so, I'm at a restaurant in Paris 350 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: and he walks in and honey, I spread my legs 351 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: and I almost said entree u. She was like, I 352 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: don't care. Age has nothing to do it. Once I 353 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: was at another dinner and I saw this eighty five 354 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: year old woman and this like young guy went up 355 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: to her and she had it. I once asked a 356 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: friend of mine, who was dating a very old lesbian, 357 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: if sex was different. The friend of yours was Sarah Paulson, who, 358 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: by the way, I am so fucking over Sarah Paulson 359 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: and Holland Taylor and they're a bullshit. Can I say 360 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: that at I art? Yes, you may. It's just like 361 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: also it's my fault really following a million like lesbian 362 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: mime accounts. But it's just like, can we stop praising them? Yeah, 363 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: she's old, she's not. They're both like iconic actresses. Yes, 364 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: there there is a little bit of this kind of 365 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: condescending like oh, how beautiful. Yes, for like, isn't that 366 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: so beautiful that she thinks this old woman like actually 367 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: has a sexuality and isn't just a corpse, Like that's 368 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: so brave of Sarah Paulson, and like, oh, they're so 369 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: horny for each other. It's so beautiful, like intergenerational love 370 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: between two womenism. I think it also maybe reveals some desire, 371 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, for a clear top. You know, obviously in 372 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: same sex relationships we need more performative dynamics to establish 373 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: who is the top, who's the bottom. And so you're like, oh, well, 374 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: she's thirty years older, so that really makes her this domineering, 375 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: powerful character. I kind of think you think her paul 376 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: Since the top. But I think they're kind of I 377 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: think they're switchy at the end of the day, Like 378 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Holland Taylor. I mean, I guess because 379 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: she's being kind of a power bottom and she's like, 380 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: they're opening above of dildos and she goes off Diltostrado's 381 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: dildo from seventeen eighteen. They got Julian's actions. She's like, Sarah, 382 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: I want the stallion tonight. Okay, fair enough, Yeah, I 383 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: take it all back. Um so whoopee is also okay. 384 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: So let's get to the asexuality of it all. Yeah, 385 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: you know, there are very degrees of ace. And she 386 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: mentions the hit and runs and then also does use 387 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: a vibrator, so she's so yes, and she has all 388 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: these marriages and like she's had all these abortions, and 389 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: like she wants to get fucked by the French restaurant. 390 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: There's all these references to like wanting to be sexual, 391 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: and yet there is this wallop in this book. She 392 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: never mentions any relationship, like with any specificity at all. 393 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: It's so fiercely private. It's just so crazy to me 394 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: that you would voluntarily write a book about relationships and 395 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: not be willing to mention one thing. There's just there's 396 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: this weird defensiveness up and then there's this constant kind 397 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: of feigning of like you know, I don't I don't 398 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: know what happen. It's just not for me. I don't 399 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: like being around people. I don't like people in my space. 400 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: This like insane fear of intimacy that she's like, I 401 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: tried it. She has so many walls. Yeah, and maybe 402 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: the wall is just literally sexualness. But but but she 403 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: is a bit from another generation, and so I think 404 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: she's just like, well, this is what you're supposed to do, 405 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: Like you're supposed to fall in love, and like this 406 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: whole book is almost her grappling with that. Yeah, I 407 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: being like, you're supposed to get married. She says this 408 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: sad story her first marriage. She was sobbing and her 409 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: mother goes, I got the car keys. Yeah, you don't 410 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: have to have to get marriage, and right at the wedding, Yeah, 411 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: the way you can be runaway bride. I'll give you 412 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: the car keys. Go right. And she was like, but 413 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: and you know I should have done that, but I 414 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: got married, which I also kind of disagree with. I 415 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: don't think you should leave people at the altar. I 416 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: think you should get married and get divorced. Yes, why 417 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: so you have the party? Have the party. But then 418 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: she's also like, I mean most of her marriages were 419 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: like eighteen months. Oh she did that. I kind of 420 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: did that. I do think that's better than you know, 421 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: being so shane at the end of season three years, 422 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm leaving no altar. That was rude. It's rude. It's rude. 423 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: Your guess. It's true, have spent the money. But there 424 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: are times when I when I just find her understanding 425 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: relationships to be somewhat alien, despite Oliver being like, it's 426 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: not like it is in the movies, and she just 427 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: like lists a million different movies and she's just like, 428 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like a prostitute doesn't actually look like 429 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: Julie Roberts. So this is why you can't trust movies. 430 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: And pretty woman isn't really okay. But yeah, I know 431 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: that as a sidebar, though I do love how pro 432 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: sex work. She is right, she's being like and if 433 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: that don't judge, And she keeps on saying, which I 434 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: don't totally agree with. She keeps on saying if someone 435 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: like cheats or like goes and get something outside the relationship, 436 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with you to the other partner, 437 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: which it's like, well, you're in a relationship, so in 438 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: a sense it always does it means you're not giving 439 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: that the other person. I think her main thing in 440 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: very like terms of like it's very John Edwards, like 441 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: if your partner is sick and they can't fuck, like 442 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: the husband should be able to like go and like, yeah, 443 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Edwards, who famously is a monster and may 444 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: she rest in peace when she was dying of cancer, 445 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: like she should have just let him fuck that poor 446 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: whatever he done on that plane. Who was she? She 447 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: was like a campaign she was no, she was she 448 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: was his campaign videocra. Wait, that's so the staircase. How 449 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: slep with the director with them and she was so 450 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: just like broad she was kind of Shannon Tweed vibes. Yeah, 451 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: she was eighties. What's rail Hunter? Also? That name is 452 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: so porn Okay, greefy, that's the I heart energy Anyway. 453 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: I want to discuss this element of her again just 454 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: being crazy and wrong when she's talking about so First 455 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: of all, let me let me ask you all this question, 456 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: can men and women be friends? She literally does the 457 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: one Harry met Sally again. That movie came out in 458 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five and this book was written in twenty eleven. 459 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: She says she has tons of male friends. And that 460 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: the wise evolved. Her male friends like trust her not 461 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: to fuck their husbands, and it's like, yeah, because you're 462 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: because you're ace well, when she's also like, people don't 463 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: understand how can be friends with my exes? And I 464 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: was like, because you're a lesbian, right, the lesbian thing 465 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: is being friends of your exes. And then she goes 466 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: she's trying to explain to us the reader, like how 467 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: is this possible? Imagine? Like, let's just think about gay people. 468 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Like she's like, if sex and attraction we're always hanging 469 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: over every friendship, then every three gay guy couldn't have 470 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: gay friends. All gay guys sleep together used flash with 471 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: sex and attraction is hanging over every gay relationship? Are 472 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: you insane? It's like, hello, every single let have you 473 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: heard of the chart? It's like friends with their exes? 474 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: Everyone is friends with an exes dating And I thought, 475 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I don't know a single 476 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: gay meal friendship that isn't bathed in sexual tension, even 477 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: if they never act on it. Of course it is, yeah, 478 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: I questioned, and I'll leave this anonymous. A friend of 479 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: ours and I said about another gay guy that we 480 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: were at an event with have you guys ever has 481 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: there been something? And they definitely had had sex in 482 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: a group setting together, but he said that there wasn't 483 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: they didn't really touch during it and that was never 484 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: their thing. So in a sense, I saw that as 485 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: a non sexual and convent. Okay. So also I watched 486 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: this clip of Whoopee on Andy Cohen and he asked 487 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: her being like, have you talked to Ted Danson? And 488 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: she laughs and goes, I've boned twenty people since then, 489 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and goes, why would I talk to him? 490 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: How many years had elapsed between this? It was like 491 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: twenty years. I feel like it was like, okay, so 492 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: she's then her annual hate and run. I'm just so 493 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: dying to know who that man is, yeah, or or 494 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: a woman. So I also want I was a big 495 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: Whoopie binge. I watched Boys on the Side last night's 496 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: just so good. I feel like I watched six Dart 497 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: two a lot as a kid, which I know that's 498 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: so like basic, Okay. I mean, my sister and I 499 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: rented Sister Act one and two every single weekend, like 500 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: they were like, it's just kind of like why didn't 501 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: we buy? Like it's so random? Sing our parents didn't 502 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: just buy the VHS. Yeah, oh wait, you rented it. 503 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: We rented it like every weekend stage. Yes, we don't 504 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: invest because the Renters society. None of my parents were 505 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: like carried the two. Yeah, four ninety nine times four 506 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: times twelve. Yeah, that's on that period. No, they should 507 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: have taught you better lessons. We don't teach young girls 508 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: how to save. Yeah, we did randomly own boys on 509 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: the side. So she plays a lesbian and boys on 510 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: the side, and it's just insane. It's so natural, right, 511 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: it's like queenly teeth insted off and you're just like sis. 512 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: She's literally playing in this movie backup keyboard for the 513 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: Indigo Girls at a club in Tucson. Yes, and just 514 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: makes so much. It's the things that make sense, things 515 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: about what queer that just makes sense. She does make 516 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: a good point. I think about menopause and how like 517 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: all divorces happen or I'm talking about happen like in 518 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: the fifties, and it's because the bodies are changing. Yes, 519 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: knowledge change, and that's okay, yes, because then suddenly men 520 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: can't get it up anymore and they think I'm not 521 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: a man. No, but that's Okay, that's just And she 522 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: was like, and you know what, and we can find 523 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: other ways to be intimate with each other. We can 524 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: be in an elevator and just rub up against each 525 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: other briefly. She offers that as like like frottage for 526 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: like couples going through issues. Yeah, over the clothes, public, public, 527 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: private frottage. I mean that's so sex therapist on like 528 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: an A and E show where they're like, go to 529 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: a couple and they're like, I guys don't have sex 530 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: for a month. I want you to make out. I 531 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: want you to tackle each other. I want you guys 532 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: to dry hump like teenagers. Yeah, well it's you know, 533 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Charlotte and Trey in the camp, right, Okay. Point number 534 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: four why she's Ace says that she's attracted to me Nians. 535 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: She's ever heard anything more age, She says, literally the 536 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: only person she has a crazy attraction too, like wet 537 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: on the floor, soaked, red eyeheart carpet minions, And she's like, 538 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: I want to cuddle with minions, and like, at this 539 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: stage in my life, like I don't really feel that 540 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: kind of amorous, like I need to touch them the 541 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: most non binary Yeah, figure in history is the minion. 542 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: It's a one eyed blab no no organs, no organs 543 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: in or out. Some of them were overalls. Am I wrong? Yeah, 544 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: you're attracted to minions. Yeah. I think what's also attractive 545 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: to her about the minion is it's non threatening, right, 546 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: there is nothing that competition because she has the walls up, right, 547 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: So that's the class Like, no, I don't want to 548 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: be penetrated. I don't want to bottom. But then there's 549 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: also like there's something that she has to do either, 550 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, that's like there's there's no vulnerabilities on the minion. 551 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: I also think she might be like a bye, she's 552 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: like a top with men, which I don't know if 553 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: she knows that about herself. Yeah, I think yeah, Like 554 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: I think she is does have attraction to men. And 555 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: she said, I mean her and Ted dance and they 556 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: were both like it was torrid. He left his wife 557 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: of sixteen years for whoopee after his wife had a stroke. Yeah, wow, God, 558 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: don't get sick because your man will leave your Yeah. Serious, 559 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: But I'm just like, so she then maybe she got 560 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: it all out of her system. That is the other idea. 561 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: She's just kind of like I'm done. Okay. Well, another 562 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: alien thing when when she's talking about lube and she goes, 563 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: I had a friend who tried lube once. I'm like, 564 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: what decade is it? You had a friend who tried 565 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: once and you say you have gay friends, right, And 566 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: she's just like, Okay, it doesn't work for everybody because 567 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: she had a reaction and then her husband had something 568 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: else going on, and I don't know if I can 569 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: recommend it, so you got to do your own research. 570 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: Is also like it just gets It's very like So 571 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: I got on AOL dot com and I asked Jeeves 572 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: what lube can I use? It's very like, go to 573 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: ask Jeeves. It's ultra very nineties. I'm sure her friend 574 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: used the most like toxic lube and not like a 575 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: water base and water bas made by Phobe meeting Western 576 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: mass What loube do you use? Enterprise like the babe 577 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: land like generic? Okay, just like the cheapest thing they 578 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: have at the like expensive store. So you're not going 579 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: at CBS at an astro clide, No I'm not. I'm 580 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: going to the folks lead sex store and getting their brand. 581 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: I will say I use a loube that I was 582 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: sent as an influencer overde by an brand called Good Parts. 583 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: And I've been making me a way to the two 584 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: like small bottles for like two years and honestly are 585 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: great good parts. Yeah, good parts. Okay for all your 586 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: good parts. I got like sponsored I forget for some 587 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: of like one of my speed dating events I did 588 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: by like some sex story company that had the funniest name, 589 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: and they gave me so many like individual packets, like 590 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: ketchup packets, which at first I was like, oh, this 591 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: will be convenient for drawful, but ultimately it's like so 592 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: sticky and ketchup asexual lesbian. Oh this is what I 593 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: want to ask you, She says. You need to know 594 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: the four things you want in a relationship, right, and 595 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: the four things you don't want in a relationship, which 596 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: you know it's important advice. Again, it's a little generic, 597 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: and it's like, sure, I think it changes, you know, 598 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: for me, in each relationship, towards the end, there becomes 599 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: some elements that are unsustainable and then I'm left in 600 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: the next relationship wanting to kind of repair are those things? Well? 601 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: I think usually a pattern with most people is like 602 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: you go, not most people, but a lot of people 603 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: you got. You searched for the opposite after a certain 604 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: type of breakup, and you try to find well, or 605 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: you kind of or you do the exact you look 606 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: for the same thing, and you repeat patterns. I think 607 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: more people are repeating patterns, and I think I'm still 608 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: repeating patterns even though I'm trying to break free of 609 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: them all the time. I see that. But it's like, 610 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: you know, I went from I think of a couple 611 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: of relationships ago. You know, that relationship had a lot 612 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: of frostiness to it, a lot of distance, a lot 613 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: of you know, lack of validation, was very cool, and 614 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: so in my next relationship, I was looking for someone 615 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: who would be really kind of like unequivocally attentive, attentive, 616 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: warm and warm, and I found that. And then you know, 617 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: that relationship had was very sexual, but also had some 618 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: sexual imbalances, some power imbalances, and ultimately he was like 619 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: a lying, cheating, sack of shit, um but all the 620 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: way off at that heart studios. But when we're in midtown, 621 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: we don't hold back. And then my current relationship, it 622 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: was like I still wanted someone who was like attentive 623 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: and like and very there and warm. Well, I think, 624 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: and that's what we call it learning, Like you were 625 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: realized like, oh, okay, these are the things I need. Yeah, 626 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: but I also learned some other things that I don't 627 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: want from my last Yeah. So I do think that 628 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: each relationship is like you're adding one more piece to 629 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: the puzzle of like something you weren't getting before that 630 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: now you're getting. Yeah. But I also think puzzle pieces 631 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: are also taken away. Yes, puzzle pieces are taken away, 632 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: and what you want shifts. I mean, I remember I 633 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: had a relationship many many, many years ago where this 634 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: guy was nineteen seventy nineteen seventy five, and this guy 635 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: was like two into me at first, and I was 636 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: just kind of like very turned off by how available 637 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: he was. And I think that because in my mid twenties, 638 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: I really like, I think I didn't value myself enough 639 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: to know that it was okay for someone to want me. 640 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: I thought that meant, oh, well, if they're too available, 641 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: like that means that like they're not cool enough for me. 642 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: You know, you were the classic girl of like I 643 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: want a man to run over me, yeah, and I 644 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: want him to be hard to get. And I thought 645 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: that that meant that he was a prize and if 646 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have a prize, then I was in a prize. 647 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: And you you wanted the sweepstakes, right, and I wanted 648 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: the sweepstakes. And now I think I understand a little 649 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: more that a relationship is really about, you know, the 650 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: dynamic and the day to day and as Whoopie says, 651 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: the second by second and you know how someone can 652 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: be there for you first, and then you add in 653 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: these other more superficial factors about how they look and 654 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: how they rock your world and what their jobs and 655 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: how much money they mean. That was so true though, 656 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: and she said a relationship is second by second, you know, 657 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: because it's the little things. Okay, it's not those honeymoon moments. 658 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: It's that second when you're taking a left and a 659 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: door dash driver almost hits your car. Yeah, how you 660 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: guys act? Yeah and after and you know, I think 661 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: about them in a relationship. You know, when we were 662 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: stranded in Panama on an island on the Caribbean coast 663 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: and we had only twelve hours to get back to 664 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: Panama City so I could fly to la and do 665 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: a live show of my podcast and make almost six 666 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: hundred dollars. He didn't panic. He was so calm, and 667 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: we did take a boat back to the mainland and 668 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: ultimately a bus across the country and he was a 669 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: twelve hour bus. May he was my night in shining armor. 670 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: And he was so calm and fun and like cracking jokes, 671 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: but also still being you know, appropriately concerned of the grieving, yes, 672 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: of what running with passports or whatever, like trying to 673 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: make stup work, but not also being crazy panicked. It 674 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: was like it was perfect. And that was the moment 675 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna say. I feel like that 676 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: was the moment. So what are your four things? Well, 677 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: I just wrote a little list. I wrote five things 678 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: I want. This already feels like copy for dating, ad 679 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: good sex, humor, care for me, sexy. I want them 680 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 1: to have a good support network, like them to have 681 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: really good friends, yes, or just like that, to be 682 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: important to them. Yes, literally wrote similar values. Okay, able 683 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: to iroll the same thing, absolute Christ. What I really 684 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: meant is like when someone says something ridiculous, you can 685 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: be like, you know, just look at each other across 686 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: the room at you definitely want to connect with them 687 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: personality wise. I mean that's very whippy when she's just like, 688 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: this is an actual quote from the book, conversation gives 689 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: you a lot of insight into who you're spending time with. 690 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: That's why dating is so important. And she's literally like, 691 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: talk to someone to get to know them. I feel 692 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: like that's a little bit with similar values, just like, no, 693 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: you're not going to date someone who you just have 694 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: nothing in common. Well, well, I think there's like, you know, 695 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: for example, me and my girlfriend, we don't really like 696 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: the same movies, right, you know that's not really I 697 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: guess what I was saying, I meant just like kind 698 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: of like how you approach situation. I mean, I totally agree, though, 699 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: and I think the moment that you spoke of is essential, 700 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: which is the can you can somebody do something in 701 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: our party and the two of you can look at 702 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: each other word Leslie, I know you're laughing at the 703 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: same thing. That's I think. Yeah, I feel like one 704 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: of the first moments that my current girlfriend and I 705 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: connected and I didn't even really think of her. I 706 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even think kind of that was 707 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: going to happen, but we were at an event of 708 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: mine and a lesbian bit another lesbian and aggressively everyone 709 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: to Sian bit another lesbian I was hosting an award 710 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah Elward trivia night. My friend was our DJ and 711 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: I'll put that in quotes, and another lesbian bit her 712 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: and kind of like everyone was being so insane and 713 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: like dramatic and like crazy because obviously a bite just happened. Yeah, 714 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: and me and mine are just kind of of like 715 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: both connected at the bar over some lights, damn crazy 716 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: cheers to that. Ask Whoopie forged in chaos, Ask segments, 717 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: what does she eat? What does she wear? How does 718 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: she live? What does she wear? She's such iconic style. 719 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: She's always in like a hype beast, like orange yellow sneaker. 720 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: She's has gotten more street where I feel like being 721 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: so like wearing or force ones and like, well, I 722 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: watched her in my Whoopie bench last night. I watched 723 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: this comedy special from like nineteen ninety one, and she 724 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: was in like completely retro I mean new then, like 725 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,240 Speaker 1: funky basketball sneakers, basically hair and pants, uh T shirt, 726 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 1: massive blazer. It was very Miyake. I mean, her style 727 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: is is pretty standard butch. She's definitely not like showing 728 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: her curves like she's always wearing like really roomy, like 729 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,320 Speaker 1: floor length denim shirts. I mean, yeah, she like invented 730 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: iconic lesbian style little sunglasses, denim jacket, beret. Yeah, she 731 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: was wearing like a bowling shirt because eighties comedy style 732 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,399 Speaker 1: like there were Yeah, but she and I think some 733 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: have like femed from that. But she's just gotten like 734 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: I think, a little more streamline athletic and it, you know. Yeah, 735 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: but she's still doing a lot of like I feel 736 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: like in the view, she's still always wearing a pretty 737 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: structured like long button down a long time, or like 738 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: a big linen shirt like oh, yeah, I guess I 739 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: just meant I bet she's wearing like a three hundred 740 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: dollars like a neoprean pant. Yes, But I think, like, 741 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, especially in the view, it's like she's the 742 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: contrast to the excessive sort of femininity of the other hosts, 743 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: and everyone's in these like newscaster like tight little dresses 744 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: and like their body consum She has an iconic style. 745 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 1: I mean her sunglasses collection, Yeah, she's never never stops. Yeah, 746 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: and they really work for her well. As she says 747 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: in the book, she's like my mom told me that Yeah, 748 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: you're cute, but you're not going to get very far 749 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: with your face alone, so you need to fight for 750 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: what you want. She kept on saying this also was 751 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: so like robotic an alien. She was like, when I 752 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: decide I need sex, I put my like energy out 753 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: to get it, and then when I'm done, I pull 754 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: it back in as like a non hot person. Yeah, 755 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of like that's kind of what everyone does. 756 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I will say, you know, I've always thought 757 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: of myself as someone, you know, who uses my humor 758 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: right to attract the fair sex. You're you're always betting 759 00:42:53,320 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: checks on groupie who's on tour. So that's how you've 760 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: attracted all seven of the people with Yeah, exactly, it 761 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: all worked. So you agree or disagree with That's what 762 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think it's it's always on. Yeah, and 763 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: again that's how I got the seventh what we're calling 764 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: with the Sexiest the sexy seven le Marada on the 765 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: Seven Dwarfs. All right, she eats h is actually kind 766 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: of parting up a storm. So that's actually I'm kind 767 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: of concerned what's going on with the diet. Oh, she 768 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: does talk about how much she loves bars, which I 769 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: was obsessed with because she's like anti app and she's like, 770 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can't tell how they smell, but if 771 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:50,240 Speaker 1: you're again, I know, but star okay, complex, but scent 772 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: is huge. Oh, I agree, you are. I hate more 773 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: when you go down and a guy and he reeks 774 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: of like cologne and d yodorant and he's got that 775 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: like shaved pubic cart so disgusting. Or if you just 776 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: are kind of knee deep in a crevice the nook, 777 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, the nook. If the smell is 778 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: just not right, it's not right. I totally agree. And 779 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people smells are not good. I mean, 780 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, you're also like yeah, and you 781 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: go on a date with some one from Tinder and 782 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: then you smell that when they're like okay, now right, 783 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: and you can smell that's a waste of time and 784 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: it's like not that big waste of time. Yeah, I know, 785 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: Like I love meeting people at smoky bars. Um So anyway, 786 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: literally we're stalling. What does she eat? I guess I'm like, 787 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,439 Speaker 1: is it a lot of what makes you fart? Okay? 788 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: I think she can diet classically, Yeah, I do think like. 789 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: For breakfast, she's very like old man very the associate. 790 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: I think she's overnight oats like. I think it's extremely 791 00:44:54,680 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: old fashioned. I think it's a grapefruit, ye like me, grapefruit. 792 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: One hard boiled egg. Yeah, Oh, I bet she snacks 793 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: out a lot of hard boiled. Hard boiled eggs. Would 794 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: get you to Fartland for sure. For dinner. I think, um, 795 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: Whoopy to me is like Cholassic Burger every now and again. 796 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: Uh very Andy Cohen Corner Bistro. Yeah, sure, I mean 797 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: I think we're like she's she seems stuck in nineteen 798 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 1: eighty four, so I'm happy to say that. Yeah, she's 799 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: like kind of a well done burger. Let's just say it. 800 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's rare over there in Whoopy Town. 801 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: Big old beef steak, tomato onion. She's burger in paradise. 802 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: She's married, She's burg in paradise. And then oh she 803 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: smokes like so much sweet, she's so fape. Yeah, and 804 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: she like gun trouble for like being high or something. 805 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: Oh wait, she admitted that she was high when she 806 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 1: accepted her oscar for a ghost fucking iconic, pretty dope, 807 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: Who are you in the book. I mean neither of 808 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: us are whoopee, because like, I feel like we're both 809 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: so like relationship. We're both pretty relationship, we both love 810 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: to have girlfriends. I feel like I'm certainly having more 811 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: than an annual hit and run. Definitely. I mean you're 812 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: kind of annual. I guess, yeah, I'm more like, Okay, 813 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: it's the years eduals getting run. So I called up 814 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: an old frenchman. I'm a little ask what like ask whoopee? 815 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: Like you you're the concept of a question. Yeah, I'm 816 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: someone asking whoopee. You're a question waiting to be answered. Okay, 817 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: you're a minion, and I'm it's more conceptual. You're the minions. 818 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm asked, whoopee, I'm so cute? Yeah, okay, great. I 819 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I give this book one and a half 820 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: stars or sorry, one and a half millions that I 821 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: want to fuck, but can't find the whole. I was 822 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: just like, this book is so random. She put very little. 823 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: I give this too, reveals absolutely nothing. Two very well 824 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: used vibrators out of five. Because I just love hearing 825 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: her voice, I ask Whoopie. I do love hearing her 826 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: voice and for her to talk about how she wants 827 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: to like fucking eighty year old. There were some choice 828 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: moments in there, and I did it. I did appreciate 829 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: princessa charmiso. Yeah, that's what I'm giving in the one 830 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: point five millions for is the princessor Charmito. Other than that, though, 831 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, if you're looking for whoopee, come watch 832 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: a film. Watch a film, Watch Boys on the Side, 833 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: Watch Karina Karino, watch Um Sister Act Watch SISTERCT two, 834 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: Sister Act two. I don't know, soap dish, what's that? 835 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: It's a movie, nineties movie about like soap opera. Says, oh, 836 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: that's yeah, it's really fun. She has a lot of 837 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,959 Speaker 1: fun movies. Okay, well, thank you so much, club kids 838 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 1: for another rollocking episode. Uh, we can't wait to see 839 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: you next week. Back here in the iHeart Studios offices 840 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: in Chicago, Dallas, Los Angelea, Toronto, Los Angeles. 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