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Speaker 1: From how stup works dot com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline. And since it

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Speaker 1: is the start relatively of the new year, what better

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Speaker 1: My yoga class is now bursting at the seams. I

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Speaker 1: provoked because of the New Year's resolution. Gotta lose the

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Speaker 1: quote unquote holiday pounds, New Year, new body. Yeah, it's uh.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is trying to fulfill those New Year's resolutions. I, however,

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, Yeah, I'm I'm going the opposite way because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna cancel that puppy. That's a great idea. And

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Speaker 1: I quit my gym a couple of years ago. Because

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Speaker 1: my resolution was to seem more day light outside of

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Speaker 1: a building. Uh. But enough about that. The question that

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Speaker 1: things like Yeah, So we set out to answer this

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Speaker 1: question of whether women or men exercise more, and the

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Speaker 1: first thing we come across is a study about what

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Speaker 1: happens on the playground. Yeah, it starts in the very

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Speaker 1: beginning and apparently socialization. Boys are one way, girls are

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Speaker 1: And according to Dr Nicky Rodgers at Liverpool University, girls

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Speaker 1: which she says lends themselves to physical games such as

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Speaker 1: Extreme Mash where like yeah, kind of combined mash and

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