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Speaker 1: original poet, Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. All right, I've been

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Speaker 1: ordered by management to give away more T shirts. You

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Speaker 1: And that dent Philip Rivers? You guys are just talking

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Speaker 1: about players of water at least at the very Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as you can imagine, the first night of the Draft

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Speaker 1: while Evan would have walked out. Yeah, he would have

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Speaker 1: been so mad on the what Myers does this year

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Speaker 1: but like, what does he do with Mahomes? You know?

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Speaker 1: Why don't Jimmy Garoppolo? Why do I keep thinking he's

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Speaker 1: going to I'm all messed up? All right, Okay, did

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Speaker 1: you bang your head? So what do you think of Bobo? No? No, okay,

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Speaker 1: he must really stink because Everon kind of likes everybody.

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Speaker 1: Someone told me that he's a little Jordan Humphrey. Oh

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Speaker 1: I'm out on him. Yeah. This is patriot It's unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It

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Speaker 1: is Tuesday here at Gillette Stadium, and it's Evan, it's Alex,

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Speaker 1: Deuce are coming back from Phoenix. So they're wrapping up

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Speaker 1: the owners meeting, which of course is the big topic

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Speaker 1: here in Patriots Nation. The head coach and the owner

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Speaker 1: both making news yesterday with some of the things they

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Speaker 1: had to say. Uh, I don't know where do you start,

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Speaker 1: it was just a crazy day. I've read into this

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Speaker 1: It's like, why did they say it? Yes, you know

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Speaker 1: Can you send your boys? Send your boy Robert Craft

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Speaker 1: just be Lamar Jackson trying to get what did it work? Sure? Did? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: look at him individually, and I just imagine he's going

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Speaker 1: to be so ridiculously motivated. Oh yeah, this year. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: I would. I would do it. I understand why it

428
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Speaker 1: likely won't happen, but I would do it. The only

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Speaker 1: thing that worries me is the injuries. It's that's it. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: like the you know, he has the abilities an MVP player,

431
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Speaker 1: you know, he transforms your offense. You Like they were

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Speaker 1: talking about odds right now, I think the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: two hundred to one, and then they had futures like

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Speaker 1: if they got Lamar Jackson, they go down to thirty

435
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Speaker 1: to one. There's seventy to one, I think just to

436
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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, and they were going down to thirty.

437
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Speaker 1: I thought it was one seventy, it's sixty six. I think.

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Speaker 1: Really now, I would be interested to see our odds

439
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Speaker 1: to land Lamar before yesterday and then this morning, because

440
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're pretty high. I believe they were

441
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Speaker 1: second behind Indianapolis. You know, Baltimore is like it's the

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Speaker 1: in the in the fields. Everybody thinks he's gonna stay

443
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Speaker 1: in Baltimore. But I think Indie is the one that

444
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Speaker 1: is the highest odds to acquire him if someone were

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Speaker 1: to get him, and then the Patriots or two. But

446
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Speaker 1: I think those things, like like Alex said, like that

447
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: can change every day, literally something some kind of news

448
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: can come out, one comment can just and it changes

449
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: that kind well, I mean it's related in ursays on

450
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Speaker 1: record yesterday talking about guaranteed contracts that he is firmly

451
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Speaker 1: against these fully guaranteed contracts, that they're not good. You

452
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: look at the NBA, you look at MLB, and it's

453
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Speaker 1: just not good for the sport, he said. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure I agree with that. I

455
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Speaker 1: just can't resonate with the opinions of a Billiaire because

456
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Speaker 1: I'm just like so away from that that. I think

457
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Speaker 1: that's a big part of this, this whole equation is

458
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Speaker 1: I think that people feel in the NFL, you know

459
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Speaker 1: people by people, I mean the owners that if another

460
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Speaker 1: quarterback gets a two hundred plus million dollars guaranteed contract,

461
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Speaker 1: that's it. That will be the norm for all quarterbacks, right,

462
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Speaker 1: and then once that happens, it's gonna well, I'm as

463
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Speaker 1: valuable as a quarterback, you know, I'm right, I'm every

464
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Speaker 1: bit as valuable to winning, you know, as that guy.

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Speaker 1: And they don't. They want to stop it now. They

466
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that Watson is an outlier. And

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Speaker 1: whether you want to call it or whatever you want

468
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Speaker 1: to term it, I think it's real. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a an enormous pushback on the other thirty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just say let's stand strong here, just to hold

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Speaker 1: everybody to their word, because that's all that's all I

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Speaker 1: can do. After a day like yesterday, Robert Craft is

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Speaker 1: saying that budget's not an issue, that money is not

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Speaker 1: a problem, that they can spend as much money as

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Speaker 1: they want. And then in the morning, Bill said, we're

476
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Speaker 1: not afraid to do anything to to make the team better.

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Speaker 1: So if money is not the problem and Cajones is

478
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Speaker 1: not the problem, Robert says money's not the problem. Bill

479
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Speaker 1: didn't say that, right, But I'm just taking everybody at

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Speaker 1: face value that you know, the wallet is coming from

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Speaker 1: Robert and he's saying that it's not a problem, and

482
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Speaker 1: Bill is saying that they'll do anything it takes to

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Speaker 1: make the team better. Then how do we have those

484
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Speaker 1: two things happening at the same time and then we

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Speaker 1: get this offseason? Like if that, if those two things

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Speaker 1: are true, then how like Lamar Jackson aside, he's like

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Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg, right, Like, how is how

488
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Speaker 1: are they so out on every single wide receiver because

489
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Speaker 1: the price is too high because Denver wants a first

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Speaker 1: round pick for Jerry Judy or the Cardinals want a

491
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Speaker 1: package for DeAndre Hopkins instead of just giving him to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I don't get that either, because if you're not

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Speaker 1: going to go pay a wide receiver, are you going

494
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Speaker 1: to have a true judgment of Mac this year? And

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Speaker 1: if you don't get that true judgment, are you going

496
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Speaker 1: to pay Mac? Like? Why not pay for a receiver? Now?

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Speaker 1: Do what you have to do, get a true judgment

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Speaker 1: of Mac, and then when it comes to his contract negotiations,

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Speaker 1: you have just a way better picture to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, criticism, Thank God for Tom Brady, But I

501
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: think Tom Brady jaded. He well, he's the one that

502
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: got away, No, but he chasing him forever. He gave

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Speaker 1: people the ability to think a certain way in that

504
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: way may not be applicable situation. It's the thing I

505
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Speaker 1: always tease Deuce about, you know, And I'm just I

506
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: joke around with them. But I always still believe in

507
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Speaker 1: Santa Claus like you still believe. It was because Chris

508
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: Board was here and he was covering kicks and that

509
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Speaker 1: was the difference between that strong middle class. Right, it works.

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Speaker 1: I believe I believe in a strong middle class. I

511
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: can believe in a lot of the principles that the

512
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Speaker 1: Patriots do while still believing that you won titles because

513
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: you had the best player who's ever played. And he

514
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Speaker 1: he says in the same press conference that he feels

515
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Speaker 1: fortunate to have coached the best players at their positions

516
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Speaker 1: and Brady Slater and LT It's another one that's not

517
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Speaker 1: an accident. He says that, but then he does he

518
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to go get the players, so I just

519
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Speaker 1: because I did that, I just don't. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: That's what he thinks. I'm convinced of it. He thinks

521
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Speaker 1: he was as responsible for those three guys as anything.

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Speaker 1: I'll give him credit, his share of the credit. I

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Speaker 1: give him no credit for Lawrence Taylor. I mean, the

524
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Speaker 1: second overall pick of the draft, greatest defensive player who's

525
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Speaker 1: ever played. I'll give him his share the credit, just

526
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Speaker 1: to be just to be fair. And I don't think

527
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Speaker 1: anybody really coached him, That's what I'm saying. Just did

528
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Speaker 1: what he wanted and he was so good it didn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Like I'll give him. I'll give him a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit for Brady, like I don't think just anybody in

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Speaker 1: Heroit's the sixth round pick one hundred and ninety nine

532
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Speaker 1: overall and becomes the greatest ever. I'll give Bill his

533
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: lions share of credit for that, but Lawrence Taylor, come on, Yeah,

534
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Speaker 1: there just seems to be a disconnect between how do

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Speaker 1: you I agree that there is a place in your

536
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Speaker 1: team building strategy for the middle class and for the

537
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Speaker 1: special teamers and for depth throughout your roster and things

538
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: like that. But the guy that coached Tom Brady, I

539
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: think he has coached more than just three guys that

540
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Speaker 1: were the best player in the position, because I would

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Speaker 1: I would say Gronk is the greatest tight end of

542
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Speaker 1: all time too, So that's four guys that he's So

543
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Speaker 1: how do you look at your teams in the past.

544
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: The reason why the middle class and the special teams

545
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff worked out for you

546
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: is because Brady and Gronkowski and Edelman and mccordy and

547
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: high Town they were driving the bus. So those guys

548
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: were at the front of the bus, and they were

549
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: at the wheel, and then that way there. The Chris

550
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Boards of the world just had to do their specific

551
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: job on the team. And yeah, those details might have

552
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: gotten you six super Bowls, but the guys at the

553
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: front of the bus were the reason why you were

554
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Speaker 1: even in the dance. And I just don't understand how

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Speaker 1: that we've lost that that now all of a sudden,

556
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Speaker 1: that those guys don't don't matter as much and we

557
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: can still sign every special team are under the sun,

558
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Speaker 1: But when it comes to Jerry Judy and the Broncos,

559
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: that's too much. No, we can't. We can't make that train.

560
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what you know, what I was

561
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Speaker 1: talking about two weeks ago, and we had the argument

562
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Speaker 1: about like the money, like it's all relative. I understand

563
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Speaker 1: that the number of you know, the number attached to

564
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Speaker 1: those guys is lower than Jerry Judy, But to me,

565
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: it's more of a symbolic thing, like I'll spend more

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Speaker 1: money than I need to on this, but I won't

567
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Speaker 1: spend more money than I need to won that. And

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Speaker 1: I like, I've never understood that all along. And he's

569
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Speaker 1: gotten away with it because he didn't need Jerry Judy

570
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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, because Brandon Lafel was just fine right

571
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Speaker 1: with Tom Brady. I'd rather have the hardworking middle class guys,

572
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, those guys wouldn't be good enough with Mac Jones,

573
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Speaker 1: But they were good enough with Tom Brady. And if

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Speaker 1: money is not a problem and balls is not a problem,

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Speaker 1: to go out and get it, and we're wishy washy

576
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Speaker 1: on the quarterback that you have, then I don't even

577
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Speaker 1: know what we're talking about with Lamar Jackson. This is

578
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: a no brainer. If all of these things are not issues,

579
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Speaker 1: and mac Jones is an open competition with Bailey Zappy,

580
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: then Lamar Jackson should be a Patriot. Then go out,

581
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: go and do it then, because clearly you don't feel

582
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Speaker 1: like you're not convinced that the quarterback is good enough.

583
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Speaker 1: So what are we waiting for to use a rocky

584
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Speaker 1: interesting day yesterday? Not expected. I did not expect. I

585
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Speaker 1: did not expect I pretty much. I was just gonna say.

586
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Speaker 1: I did not expect Meek Mill to be the source

587
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Speaker 1: of NFL news. Yes, I expected Bill's press conference to

588
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: go pretty much as it did. I did not expect

589
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft drop that kind of a bomb. Shitty Oh,

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: by the way, I had one person here who said,

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Speaker 1: all I really thought that the media let Bill off

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Speaker 1: the hook yesterday. I thought the media was excellent. I

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00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: thought that they asked and you know me, I never

594
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Speaker 1: say it. I would like to, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we'll have the opportunity because usually now they give

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00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the pre draft press conference to grow. So it's not Bill,

597
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: but the questions that I asked grow about number one

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and paying premiums for that position. I genuinely

599
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: do not think that Bill agrees with that premise. I

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Speaker 1: would agree. I don't think that he believes that Fred's

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Speaker 1: that receivers are as valuable and as the rest of

602
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: the league does. And we're getting to the point now

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00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: where he is on an island. Yeah, with this opinion.

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00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about with people like us, he's

605
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: on an island, but the people that he's in the

606
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: photos with at the owner's meetings. Every other team is

607
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: willing to shell out twenty plus million dollars when they

608
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: have a star receiver of that caliber except him. Yeah. So, Evan,

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Speaker 1: when you you brought up the Gronk part, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's another greatest player we had a great Remember we

611
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: used to do this with with Andy. We would have

612
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: all these things about how many different greatest of all time?

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Speaker 1: Like could you throw Adam Vinatieri in there? Going to say,

614
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, like is he the greatest kicker.

615
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: You can make an argument that he's the greatest kicker

616
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: of all time, right right, And we would talk about that,

617
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: like who could be a candidate for that? We used

618
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Speaker 1: to We used to waste a lot offseason time on

619
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Speaker 1: that kind of store back when, as you would like

620
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Speaker 1: to say, for back when we were going fourteen and

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Speaker 1: two First World Problems. Five five paths five hundred is

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Speaker 1: the ace ticket, hut line web radio at Patriots Die.

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Speaker 1: Tom is the email address. So that's, uh, that's what

624
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: we're talking about here. Um, So why don't we open

625
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: up the phone lines and the emails and we'll see

626
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Speaker 1: what you have to say. We'll start with Patty and Agawam,

627
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: what's up? Patty? Tellub everyone, Hey, Alex my four one

628
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: three compatriot show today. Pretty good. Um, Evan, I'm a

629
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Speaker 1: little disappointed in you, um, the fact that you can't

630
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: be open minded that maybe Meek Mill is in mind

631
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Speaker 1: to become the Lamar Jackson's agent. You know, maybe you're

632
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: throwing that sort of stuff out there. Sorry, but seriously, um,

633
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Speaker 1: I'm telling I'm telling Bill to put his big boy

634
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Speaker 1: pants on and make a freaking decision, um, and just

635
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: stick with it and live with it. Either Mac, you know,

636
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Speaker 1: build around Mac, or trade the pick and get the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty much consensus. Lamar Jackson is an

638
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Speaker 1: established and a much better quarterback to Mac Joe. But

639
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: if you're not going to go out there and get

640
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna put bucks in the seats, which

641
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a problem with you, then

642
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: build around the guy that you drafted in the first round.

643
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: If there's one thing I think that New England Patriots

644
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: fan and Boston sports fans in general have it, or

645
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: that we desires. We want stability. And you know when

646
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: when we brought in Bill Parcels and Drew Bloods, did

647
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: did we sell up stadium or did we sell up

648
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: the stadium when we knew that we were going to

649
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: have a team, you know, forever after Bob Praps told

650
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: about the team. Technically, yeah, yeah, you know, to make

651
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: you up, make up your freaking mind, though not the employee.

652
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: You don't have Tom Brady anymore, and just make a

653
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: decision and stick to it. That's all I got. Okay,

654
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: no good point, Patty, hard words from a hard man. Yeah,

655
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: let's go to Todd North Carolina hate Todd so earlier,

656
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: and I've had this concern. You guys kind of set

657
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: poo pooed me and then you gave me some assurance.

658
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: What's really cool? But not Bill hasn't lost his basketball, poud.

659
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: You're just you're just seeing stuff. You're seeing shadows. But

660
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: I think you guys haven't brought up with Devin McCardy

661
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: said that Bill just threw his son in to coach

662
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: them at all in the room for the DBS, and

663
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: he walked in and said, hey, guys, Dad put me here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. Help me out, Teach

665
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: me what I need to do, like what's going on?

666
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: Like that kind of thing. Sure it worked, but does

667
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: it work all the time? Like does Bill think that

668
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: he can just do whatever he wants and it's gonna work?

669
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: Is that the biggest problem? I don't know. I'm really

670
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: confused with a lot of the stuff that's going on,

671
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: and it doesn't. It scares me that the owner and

672
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: the coach and the GM, and the coach and the

673
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: GM of course the same person, but three people don't

674
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: seem to be And I'm going to split Bill into two.

675
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: The three people don't seem to be all on the

676
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: same page. I don't even know if coach GM and

677
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: are on the same page. And that's scary because it's

678
00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: the same guy. So I don't know it's yeah, yeah,

679
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was another thing that uh,

680
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: you know mccordy's been making. Yeah, I think the mccordy

681
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: thing is interesting. Yeah, you guys surprised with how candidate's been. Yeah,

682
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: I the Steve Belichick thing, I don't care as much

683
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: about that as everybody else, to be honest with you, Yeah,

684
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: because I already knew that Devin mccordy was the safety's

685
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: coach anyway, and he told me he was last year.

686
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: He's room in a room with a bunch of veterans

687
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: right on purpose, and and Brian is taking the same

688
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: path for the same reason. And he told him two

689
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: weeks before the offseason program, not two weeks before the season,

690
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: like you know. It was. This was in March that

691
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: he told him that, Hey, you're gonna I care about

692
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: it from a larger point of view, but I already

693
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: knew that Devin mccordy was responsible for the safeties. Yeah,

694
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen now, like

695
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Devin said, he walked into a room with Devin, pat

696
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: Chung Harmon and Nate Ebner, Like, could you get more

697
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: high IQ and experience at one position group in one room?

698
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: I think you would be hard pressed to do that.

699
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: So that was the perfect in that moment. That was

700
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: probably the best place to break in a new coach

701
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: would be basically with four coaches on the field at

702
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: their respective areas of expertise. You know, And I know

703
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: it's nepotism, it is, it's nepotism, but I think in

704
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: this case, Bill has the utmost confidence in Brian and Steve,

705
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: and maybe it's well deserved because I mean, you know,

706
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: like sometimes as a father you have good instincts about

707
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: your kids. There's something to be said about growing up

708
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: with Bill Buck and learning from him every single day

709
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: of your life. Absolutely so like that, I'm not like,

710
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, up in arms about that. Like you know,

711
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: there's also parents are like, my kid can't do that,

712
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: and they make an honest decision that way. But you

713
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: can also have an honest decision in a positive way

714
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: to say, no, my kid is good and I'm gonna

715
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: give him that shot. Yeah, it's nepotism, but at the

716
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: same time, the kid could actually be good. You know,

717
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: it's all nepotism. Does it always mean that the kids

718
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: not qualified? Upper arms is a strong one. I don't.

719
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't see why you would be upper arms about it,

720
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: but I don't. I'm not happy about it either. I

721
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: kind of fall in the middle of all you guys like,

722
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know that it. Like I said, I think then,

723
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: the more I talked to Devin mccordy, the more I

724
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: think he was a lot. I think I kind of

725
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: undersold in my mind his value. The more I hear

726
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: de muccority talk. I like, I think he was responsible

727
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: for what they did in the first half in Kansas

728
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: City in eighteen. Sure, I'll never forget that game. I

729
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: don't know what I forget might be. I don't if

730
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: it was a preseason game or something, or a first

731
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: or second game of the regular season. It was away

732
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: game in New Orleans and he didn't play, or didn't

733
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: play the second half, whatever it was. His not being

734
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: on the field was you know, the effect of that

735
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: was immediate. You could see just the dysfunction in the

736
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: back defensive bat field just from him not being there.

737
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: You know, and that was like, you know, not right

738
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: away in his career, but it was like, you know,

739
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: maybe seven years into his career or six years into

740
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: his career, you could see the difference between him being

741
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: out there and him not being out there in terms

742
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: of just keeping everything together. He was a coach of

743
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: the field. He was absolutely a coach on the field.

744
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: You know. I just think that it's the nepotism thing

745
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: and blaming stuff on him giving jobs to Steve and

746
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: Bright like that. That is so low on my list

747
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: of reasons why they're in the position that they're in

748
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: right now. You know, if you want to take aim

749
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: at what they did with on offense last year, or

750
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: the special team's coaching, or the way that Bill builds

751
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: the roster, like the quarterback even I'll get all those

752
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: things come first before we get to Steve Belichick. Yeah,

753
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: it would be a much different story if the players

754
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't respect them. But I mean, even that quote about

755
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Steve that I think kind of got really taken out

756
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: of context when all the nuances stripped from it. Both

757
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Chris Long and Devin on that podcast are talking about

758
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: how much they admire and respect Steve for coming in

759
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: and saying like, I'm not gonna tell you guys what

760
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: to do just because I'm Bill Belichick's son. I'm here

761
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: to learn from you guys, and are all going to collop.

762
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Meant that the show is honesty, right you know? Um yeah,

763
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: So I mean, like again, we talked about the brain

764
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: drain that's happened here in Foxboro. You can't understate that.

765
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's a real thing. And I

766
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: think you know, Bill has always liked to bring up

767
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: the coaches in the system so that when they ready,

768
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: they there's a comfort level, there's continuity. You know, we're

769
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: not loyalty. Yeah, you know, everyone's on the same page,

770
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: and you know, you get that brain drain. And I

771
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: think Bill's like, I'm I'm just as confident in my

772
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: two sons as somebody I'm going to bring in from

773
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: the outside. So let's just stick to what we know here.

774
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay with that, I really am. Let's go

775
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: to Gavin in Colorado Springs. What's up, Gavin? Hey, Hey, Paul,

776
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: what's going on guys? Uh? Twenty nineteen? Actually, yeah, no,

777
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of kind of here in Colorado. You

778
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: don't just kind of enjoining joined the Higher here so high?

779
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: No not oh no, but hey, you guys don't really

780
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: think there's a chance of getting Lamar, do you? I mean,

781
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: I know there's of course I want it. Here's the thing.

782
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest here. Okay, if Lamar gets traded

783
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: to the Patriots, I'll buy you guys a week worth

784
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: of lunch with a caveat that Edvan Kenny Sorry, I've

785
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: stopped listening to the show ever since Van has like

786
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: his he has really good analynce stuff like that. Just

787
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: just a voice, man, I'm sorry, it just turns. Wow,

788
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: that's hard. I know, I know, I'm not trying to

789
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: be a troll or anything, not your face, but he

790
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: said it to you directly. I can give you my address,

791
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: you can come say it to my face. You don't

792
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: want that smoke. I can make fun of even you can't.

793
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: That's not right. Yeah, no, I said, I'm not trying

794
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: to be a troll. Year but that week's worse. Lutch

795
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: is Evan can eat all Okay, Okay, all right, good one, Gavin,

796
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: good call. Thanks for Let's go to Jared in New Orleans.

797
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: What's up Jared? See everybody, Hey, just a little bit

798
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: and bit and whiles I got thought they were calling.

799
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: I have two things for yall, and I'll take the

800
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: answer all there because I'm currently driving somewhere. UM One is, uh,

801
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: what second year player do y'all believe you can take

802
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: a step forward in this new offense that we have

803
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien and second and second, Um, after the

804
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Huddle podcast is taken off. We just finished our first

805
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: guest interview last night and so we're taking off. Its

806
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: doing very I've heard about that podcast all over the news. Yeah, yeah,

807
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: thanks Jared. These calls, Yeah, what what second year back

808
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: to like promote their platforms? I mean, I'm just talking.

809
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I would say Tae Kwon do Yeah. I mean you

810
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: could say like one of the running backs or something,

811
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: but I think it's got to be Taekwon Gordon. Yeah,

812
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: I would say so too. Yeah, let's go to Rashad

813
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: in Baltimore who just called in good timing, Michaud, what's up?

814
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: They what's up? What's up? Not a very hard act

815
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: to fall over. You should be better than the last two. Well,

816
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: don't worry. We don't worry. I'm not gonna be promoting

817
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: no podcast on not like the news yesterday. Well, I

818
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's news the speculation. As soon

819
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: as I saw it, you know, I got excited because

820
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: that's I mean, Lamar Jackson coming to the Patriots. That's

821
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: and I've been wanting to keep it in college. Are

822
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I mean, I remember the day that

823
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: we heard that they were going to sign Cam Newton.

824
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: We were freaking out. I was, you know, I have

825
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: to be guilty of Yeah. We were like, you know,

826
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: we forgot about the last few years. We were just

827
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: thinking about Cam Newton and his prime. It's like, oh,

828
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: he's a Patriot. If they did Lamar Jackson, oh man,

829
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: we're talking emergency podcast even if it's a Tuesday. But

830
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: the one thing that I will I do want Lamar.

831
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: But the one thing I will say, I do feel

832
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: bad for Mac Jones because he's been put in a

833
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: lot of uncomfortable situation saying I agree, like, you know,

834
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: if I feel like that was me, like you know,

835
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: in this situation like that, I'd be like if if

836
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: my bosses really don't trust me like that, then do

837
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: I really feel comfortable here? It's a good point. I

838
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: don't feel like they're setting them up again to have. Yeah,

839
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, extenuating circumstances. It's a really good point. You know,

840
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: the league and definitely worse situations, but this optic even

841
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: like what I just said, you know, like about Lamar Jackson.

842
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: If Matt Jones is listening like he's like few, you know,

843
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't blame him. I don't blame him. I hope

844
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: you would have that mindset. Yeah. The last part of

845
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Speaker 1: what he said, though, is about being comfortable. Just we

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Speaker 1: just thanks for shot. I agree with your point that

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Speaker 1: I've been pretty critical of Mac Jones, but I have

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Speaker 1: I think it has just as much to do with

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Speaker 1: But it's it's it's just walking around listening to other teams.

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Speaker 1: Hasselbeck's dad at Rebought for a while, so they talked

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01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: to Matt Hasselbeck a little bit. So that was kind

1259
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: of fun. Um, lots of good food, just a you know,

1260
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: a fun party. And then we we we finished it

1261
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: off as as Evan will appreciate, with a late night

1262
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: trip to in and out. So so that was a

1263
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And yeah, okay, what did you get, Dues?

1264
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: Oh that's the classic, that double double What I think

1265
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: I gotta hit it one more time before we head

1266
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: to the airport too. Chuck got out of double Berg,

1267
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to getting back. It was fun

1268
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 1: listening to your guys takes this morning, and certainly it's

1269
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: just I think you guys are dead on with with everything.

1270
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: You're kind of staying and you know some of the contradictions,

1271
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: and you know, the Lamar thing is just it's the

1272
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: big elephant in the room right now. And I mean,

1273
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: I still think based on Hardball yesterday that it seems

1274
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: to me like he's probably gonna go back to Baltimore,

1275
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 1: and it still feels like we're in negotiations. But at

1276
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, I think it was Evan

1277
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: that just said, I mean, if this guy's available and

1278
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: you really don't think mac Jones is a guy and

1279
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: you think competition and with Bailey Dappy, then you know

1280
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: we'll go get them. Like what are we doing? Yeah, well,

1281
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: Deuce um, safe travels. I hope everything works out with

1282
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: your flight, and thanks for calling in. We'll see when

1283
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: you get back here. All right, thank guys. All right,

1284
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: so your deuce Deuce coming in from Have you've got

1285
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: a chance to cover some of the Super Bowls and

1286
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: go to the parties? Right? Yes? Yeah, I think I

1287
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: think that's Mike's first quote unquote party NFL party. Yeah.

1288
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 1: When I the Super Bowl in Atlanta was at the Aquarium, yep,

1289
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: which was pretty cool. Yeah, I remember that. But I

1290
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: would say that you know, we've been we've been to.

1291
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: We've been our few. But I would say in terms

1292
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: of just star power, NFL star power, that's probably more

1293
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: what Deuce just witness was more condensed than NFL because

1294
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: the NFL you get all the sponsors and all this

1295
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 1: other you know VIP. Yeah, and and this was just

1296
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: parties like the like the big one at the the

1297
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: Aquarium that Evan mentioned. That's an NFL that's a media party, right.

1298
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: So you see everybody that there is to see in

1299
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: the media, but you're not seeing coaches walking around. Our

1300
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: owners walk around. You see some, yeah, but not not

1301
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: a ton, whereas I think this one, it's all that. Yeah,

1302
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: all the coaches and all the right the owners and whatnot.

1303
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: Just I'm sure that they're thrilled to have the media

1304
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, around all the time. But No Socks must

1305
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: have been in his glory. Yeah, No, Socks had some

1306
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: front and center. He was holding the light, the you know,

1307
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: the lighting Yeah for I think Bill, No for Robert Roberts,

1308
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: because that was outside, right, Bills was inside. Yeah. I

1309
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: love no socks on the road. Yeah, No socks is

1310
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: fun on the road. Good time. Oh yeah, let's go

1311
01:10:54,800 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: to Ethan in Kentucky. What's up, Ethan Ethan, good job,

1312
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: Hardy Ethan in Kentucky. Not there anymore. Let's go to

1313
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: Chris in Scottsdale, speaking of Phoenix. What's up, Hey, guys,

1314
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: how are you good? Have you seen Deuce good? Good? Hey? Um,

1315
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 1: you man, you can't call in here and talk like that.

1316
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: I agree to our new guys. Come on, man, Yeah,

1317
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: who says that? Honestly? What's he talking about? But the

1318
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: Gavin guy has like a million can take. Oh no,

1319
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: I will fight that guy. He can come whenever you want.

1320
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: He doesn't, he doesn't take kindly. You didn't even see

1321
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: what that guy looks like. I would never be a

1322
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: fight with someone I haven't seen physical. I mean that

1323
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 1: guy might be big enough to be able to walk

1324
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: a great Dane, might be side my fist. A right, Hey,

1325
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: I got I got a question for you guys, okay,

1326
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to get your thoughts on there. Um.

1327
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, Bread, thanks for picking on

1328
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: me for not knowing Matt Matt Slater's name last last

1329
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: week when I was calling in in the midst of

1330
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: doing six. Well, I mean you went on this thing

1331
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 1: about how great a fan you are, and yeah, you

1332
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: do already know who Matt Slater is. Yeah, and me

1333
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: watching two games last year. I watched the NFL. I

1334
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: just didn't watch our team, you know, puke on themselves

1335
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: every Sunday because we're not you know, doing the necessary

1336
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: things of a real team. Okay, but you know you

1337
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: should be watching all right? Anyway, go ahead here, here's

1338
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: why I'm calling in InCred I do want your thoughts

1339
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: on this, and and Paul everybody there than ask the question, Okay,

1340
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback that's uh in the draft, that's that's a

1341
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: Lamar clone? What's his name? Anthony Richardson? Anthony Richardson? Why

1342
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: would we not just invest the draft capital to to

1343
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: go up and get that guy? If we're willing to

1344
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 1: take a quarterback like Lamar On, who is an if

1345
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,919
Speaker 1: he you know, pastor of the football, but his electric

1346
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, moving and you know, uh, can I take this?

1347
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: You think Anthony Richardson is a more sure thing than

1348
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. No, I'm not saying that he is necessarily,

1349
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is you would have

1350
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 1: him on the rookie contract right at that, but what

1351
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: if he can't play? You've invested significant draft capital to

1352
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: move up to get a guy who might not be

1353
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: able to play. I mean, he did not have a

1354
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: good year at Florida last year, but someday he might

1355
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: be Lamar Jackson. Paul, right, so I will invest in

1356
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: something that I am pretty sure has happened. He's an

1357
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: MVP okay, and Paul, Yeah, no, I hear you on that.

1358
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is I'm not the best.

1359
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest believer in Lamar as as a

1360
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: thrower of the football. I mean, the man is amazing

1361
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: with his legs. Right. Then you don't want any part

1362
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: of Anthony Richardson, then you don't. You don't want to

1363
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: you don't want to extend draft capital to move up

1364
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: and get a guy who was far ifier of a

1365
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: prospect than Lamar Jackson was coming out. If you ask me,

1366
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: because you see where I was going, I'm just trying

1367
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: to say, you did that, and then you had the

1368
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: rookie contract and you actually surrounded him with the same

1369
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: kind of scheme fit. You know, wouldn't you be resetting

1370
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, your salary cap and I know the cap

1371
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: is crap. I think Anthony, I think Anthony Richardson is

1372
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: I think calling him a Lamar clone is not accurate, Okay,

1373
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,879
Speaker 1: and I could be up, I'm not claying. Anthony Richardson

1374
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: is a lot more and stylistically closer to somebody like

1375
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen a size wise coming out Cam Newton coming

1376
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: out very very different ways that they win with their

1377
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: legs than Lamar, and has more than his fair share

1378
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: of the mechanical flaws as well. Yeah, but he's electric

1379
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: on the field with his legs, and I do get that.

1380
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: I guess it's you know, and I'm definitely you know,

1381
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: I have to admit it's not like I know everything

1382
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: about Anthony Richardson in terms of a player. I just

1383
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: know that his skill set is supposed to be mobile

1384
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: and you know, rocket cannon arm but you know, not accurate,

1385
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: and that basically fits Lamar, you know what I mean.

1386
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're grossly underselling Lamar and you're

1387
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: grossly overselling Richardson. I mean, just as a point of

1388
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: comparison here. And I know what probably sounds like Evan

1389
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: and I like are lobbying to be Lamar's agency needs one, right.

1390
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson at Louisville was the Electric Heisman Trophy winner right,

1391
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: not a guy who couldn't even go five hundred with

1392
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: Florida right, like to compare to the two at the

1393
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: college level is insane. Yeah, Lamar's so. I also think

1394
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: that there's an unfair disconnect with Lamar about his passing ability.

1395
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot because I hear this a lot on calls,

1396
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: on our show calls and other shows, that Lamar is

1397
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: this is a is a shaky passer, can't throw the

1398
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: football uh consistently well? And I just I don't think

1399
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: that that's that's doing him. Oh fair. I think he's

1400
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: improved vastly. I think he's good enough of as a passer.

1401
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the most gifted thrower in the league.

1402
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: But it's not like I say, like Tim Tebow, he

1403
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 1: just can't throw right, you know. Yeah, I think he's

1404
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: good and I think he would be better in a

1405
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: better scheme. There's areas of the field where I wouldn't

1406
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: highlight if I had him, Like I wouldn't ask him

1407
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: to throw a bunch outside the numbers because the ball

1408
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 1: gets a little bit wonky out there. His elbow under

1409
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: the ball sometimes and it floats, right. But if you

1410
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: want to, if you're gonna build the offense, the Bill

1411
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: O'Brien offense, and you're building it through the middle of

1412
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: the field anyways. I mean, he's he's money on throws

1413
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: between the numbers for the most part. You know, guy

1414
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: that can really dot it on anticipatory throws coming across

1415
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: the middle a post. Seems like any of that stuff

1416
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field, that that's that's his

1417
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: bread and butter. When he was coming out, his biggest

1418
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: issue where his feet. His platform was very, very narrow,

1419
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 1: and that he had difficult time stepping through and really

1420
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: throwing with a good bass, a solid bass, so his

1421
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 1: accuracy was inconsistent. But he's really fixed a lot of

1422
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: those things. Anthony Richardson is a complete project. Let's go

1423
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: to William and Philham. What's up? Will him? Very fraid?

1424
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: How are you going? All right? I look um, hey, Alvis,

1425
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm with you all the way. I want Lamar Jackson

1426
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: to no. I'm wanting to call it that called up there,

1427
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: you know, and wanting hoping and maybe one day we

1428
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: could get Lamar Jackson, if if it's even possible. I

1429
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: know it's kind of a pipe gam at this point,

1430
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: but you know, anything can happen, you know what I mean? So,

1431
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 1: um my questions for Evan, Yes, sir, so Evan, so

1432
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: you um, so what do you think? So you think

1433
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: Meek Mills is lying or something? No, I just don't

1434
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: think that, Like, why are we taking Meek Mills word

1435
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: like he's he knows what he's talking about? If you're

1436
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: an athlete, would you rather break news to Adam Schefter

1437
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 1: or Meek Mill? Okay, I'm just makes you think. So

1438
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: why would he call mister claff up and say that,

1439
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: you know and mister kraffa. Maybe Lamar Jackson asked him

1440
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: to go or maybe he's just joking around with with

1441
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: a friend of his like that. That's the thing. I

1442
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: think you're questioning everything about that though, Yeah, because it's

1443
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: it's a rapper. It's not any like he doesn't talk,

1444
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: wants to be a rapper, So what does that mean

1445
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 1: because you're a rapper? So you a media and nothing? No,

1446
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't. I'm not. I'm not with

1447
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: Evan on like the whole Meek Milton. But I think

1448
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 1: there were a million reasons why it may or may

1449
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: not be accurate. I think Lamar Jackson could have told

1450
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: him to do it. What if I mean what, it

1451
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean he's just trying to drum up, maybe

1452
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: up his contracts, maybe get his deal done. Maybe this

1453
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: disc I'm not saying that Meek Mill purposely lied to

1454
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: to Robert Craft, and I'm not saying that Robert Craft

1455
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: lied about the conversation that he had with meek Mill.

1456
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I don't think it's any more

1457
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: realistic than I thought it was yesterday before this happened.

1458
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: Just because meek Mill, of all people, claims that he

1459
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: wants to play for the Patriots, that's all. Look, look,

1460
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: I know it's I know it's a pigm at this point,

1461
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: and we all wishing to hope I get trust me,

1462
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: my expectations are really low about it. So it's just no.

1463
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: But just they had it is a little bit of

1464
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: new dying. I'm a little bit exciting. Oh yeah, I

1465
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: mean it's not as excited as allergy. It gets you going,

1466
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, the same, but keep manifesting. Yeah. But what

1467
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking is like, oh yeah, but what I'm thinking

1468
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: is like, you know, it could be somebody who Meek

1469
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: Mill knows, who told somebody who told somebody got to

1470
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: Meek Mill, and Meek Mills just passed him on. Hey,

1471
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: I heard Lamar Jackson wants to be a patriot. You know, like,

1472
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: we don't even know how many gossip. Yeah, we don't

1473
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,879
Speaker 1: know how far away Meek Mill is from. I wouldn't

1474
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: imagine too far. Like these guys love rappers, they're in

1475
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: the same circles. They're alreadies like it's thank you, but

1476
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: but nobody's safe. But he's not what I think. But

1477
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: you were saying, how do we know this is even true?

1478
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: It came from Meek Mill, you said that earlier in

1479
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: the show. How do I know it's even because how

1480
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: do I know that it's actually realistic and it's actually

1481
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: a real thing in the eyes of the Baltimore decision

1482
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: makers and Lamar Jackson and the patriots. I'm not saying that.

1483
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: I'm just say it's not about Meek Mill no telling

1484
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: the truth or not. It's about what is validity to it. Yeah,

1485
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 1: what difference doesn't make what Meek Mill thinks. It's not

1486
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: what he thinks. It's just he's passing along information. Hey,

1487
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: Lamar is interested in being a patriot. Yeah, I think

1488
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: that Lamar isn't really interested in anything. I think Lamar

1489
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: is interested in drumming up his marketability. Yeah, yeah, I

1490
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: think he wants to get his contract as big as

1491
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: it can be. It just like I said, Meek Mills

1492
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 1: saying this does not make it any more of a

1493
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: done deal that Lamar Jackson is coming saying that though

1494
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: that's all like, it's not about like questioning Meek Mills,

1495
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: like validity credentials, right like that. I just feel like

1496
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: it's it seems to me, it's a pretty obvious to

1497
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: me contract ploy. It's a it's a negotiation, like if

1498
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: you really want it, Like if you if you're trying

1499
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: to get the biggest contract can get, like supposedly he's

1500
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: turned down over two hundred million guaranteed from Baltimore. Right,

1501
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get the biggest contract you could get,

1502
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 1: would the Patriots be high on that list for you? No?

1503
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: But but does it? But does it benefit Lamar Jackson

1504
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: to have the Patriots attached to it? How many times

1505
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 1: have we seen that over the year. Yeah, you want

1506
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: as many teams in the mix as possible, but the

1507
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: Patriots are an important one because that generates national interest.

1508
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: When the Patriots are tied to a guy, especially when

1509
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: the owner will say, bang a little bit awful with

1510
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 1: Alex ay Evan. It's just you know, yeah, mister Kraft

1511
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 1: has a little connection with Meek Mills, Rick Raws, jay Z.

1512
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: I mean you know, I mean they at the game

1513
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: sometimes too. I mean, you know, so they do talk

1514
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: and whatnot. So I mean, you know, I don't think

1515
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: it's the craft is gonna just give his number of

1516
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: anybody like that. Oh no, okay, I'm sorry that I

1517
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: took a shot. There's no doubts, no doubt that Meek

1518
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: Mill has Robert Kraft's cell phone number. That's not even

1519
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: a question. My question is, like your friends, is this

1520
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: if friendly? Is this Lamar Jackson telling Meek Mill? Or

1521
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: is this you know, five different people removed telling somebody

1522
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: and it gets to Meek Mill. And it really was

1523
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: a conversation where Lamar originally said I'd played for this team,

1524
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 1: this team, this team, and this. I think I don't know,

1525
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't just count it. I'm with Alex.

1526
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 1: I think that probably Lamar Jackson told Meek Mill I

1527
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: would like to play for the Patriots. Yeah, I just

1528
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: I just have different reasons why I think he may

1529
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: have done that. Yeah, I think he did it to

1530
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: try to get a bigger contract. And my whole thing

1531
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: is I just don't care because at the end of

1532
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: the day, the only person that matters of only people

1533
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: that matter here are Lamar Jackson himself and Bill Belichick.

1534
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: So Meek Mill being the third party here is cool,

1535
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: like like, it doesn't. It doesn't make Lamar Jackson a

1536
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: patriot just because craft said anyone else texted him an

1537
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: expressed interest in He said his mother. If if Robert

1538
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: Crafts said we have had discussions with Lamar Jackson about

1539
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: becoming a patriot, I would say, Okay, this is real.

1540
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: Meek Mill is saying to hey, Robert, you know I

1541
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: was with Lamar at the club last night and he

1542
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: said that he wants to be a patriot. Like, okay,

1543
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 1: that's his direct I believe that That's not what I'm saying.

1544
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm just disputing whether or not Meek Mill actually checks

1545
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: because I think that people are just I'm not. I'm

1546
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: not disputing that, but Evan's not either, So people are

1547
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: still but we're fixating on this part of it. Yeah, No,

1548
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 1: I just don't think it means anything. It's a football decision.

1549
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: Does the person that runs the football department here at

1550
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: one Patriot Place want Lamar Jackson? Yes or no? Does

1551
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson want to play here? Yes or no? If

1552
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: Meek Mill has information that he does, then that's one

1553
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 1: box checked. We still got another person that we got

1554
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 1: to convince that it's the right thing to do. And

1555
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,720
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with Mike Mill. That's all

1556
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. True, do you want? Do you want? Check?

1557
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: He's my favorite player in the so absolutely okay, but

1558
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: we're all on the Lamar the best. Yes I am.

1559
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: I am trying to keep my fandom. You don't have

1560
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: to convince us. We don't write thank you? Yeah, all right, thanks? Well, well,

1561
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: I keep manifesting for us. I love was a good call.

1562
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: I love the people. William is one of the better.

1563
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: I love the people that social. Let's say, I'll take

1564
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson if the money's right. The money's never going

1565
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: to be right. Not my money. Yeah, that's what I

1566
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 1: don't get money. Money, You're worried about the money. Alex's

1567
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: comment is my favorite comment about sports in general. I

1568
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: don't understand never I understand why teams do it for

1569
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: obvious reasons. I don't understand why fans ever would look

1570
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: at it from that perspectives, like, well, if we can

1571
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: get him at the right pright, what do you kid

1572
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: with the price? That's a poor person's mindset. I don't

1573
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't understand. I think they try.

1574
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: They try to play GM right, that's what it is,

1575
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: and they do it in all sports too. But the

1576
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: guy here has convinced them that value is this very

1577
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 1: important thing, and that getting a deal on every deal

1578
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 1: is the is the bottom line. But the only sport

1579
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: that I would even come into my mindset would be

1580
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: the NHL hockey because it's because it's such a hardcast.

1581
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: So if I give Posture thirteen million instead of eleven million,

1582
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: that affects me. Yeah, that doesn't come into play in

1583
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: any other sport. I agree with that. If I give

1584
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: the guy a couple of million more than he really

1585
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 1: really deserves, it doesn't matter in any other sport, but

1586
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: it matters to fans, and I, like, again, I understand

1587
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: why it would matter to Robert Kraft. I don't want

1588
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: to pay more for a guy than he's worth for

1589
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 1: obvious reasons. Why do I want to pay more than

1590
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: I have to. But for a fan to sit there

1591
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 1: and say, if the price is right with Lamar jack

1592
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: what do you care? Do you think the guy's any good? Yeah? Right, Like,

1593
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: if you end up paying him forty five a year

1594
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: instead of forty three a year, what do you care?

1595
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: You know? And forget about the draft picks. The reason

1596
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: why you have draft picks is to eventually have guys

1597
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 1: like Lamar Jackson on your team, you know, so giving

1598
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: up time now if someone relivant, I don't think Lamar

1599
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 1: Jackson's that good. Now, the three of us are obviously different, different,

1600
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,560
Speaker 1: but that I understand if a fansies, you know what,

1601
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: I don't think Lamar Jackson's that good. That the guy

1602
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: in Arizona who's comparing Anthony Richardson to Lamar Jackson, you

1603
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't think as much of Jackson as we do. Yeah,

1604
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: totally understood. Then you're out. You don't want him, And

1605
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: I get that not everybody looks at players and has

1606
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 1: the same opinion of the player. Joe and Delaware writes

1607
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 1: in for first, the caller from Colorado should be a

1608
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: Broncos fan like Fred Evan For president of Patriots player personnel, Fred,

1609
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: do you still have that. Oh wait, Jersey, I do somewhere. Yeh. Second,

1610
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: regarding the differences in messaging between Craft and Bill, is

1611
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: just a difference in messaging. I'm calling it Lamar to

1612
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I can see through all this, Bill said.

1613
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: Robert said, stuff or is it wishful thinking? If it

1614
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 1: comes out before the end of the show on Thursday

1615
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 1: that Lamar is a Patriot? I want to peeu shirt,

1616
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: give away a shirt. I think they are pursuing Lamar.

1617
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: There are a lot of moving pieces. Robert is optimistic

1618
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, and Bill is waiting for it to

1619
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: be a done deal. Okay, um, let's see. So we

1620
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: should give away a T shirt, right, give away a

1621
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: T shirt and then I want to get into the

1622
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: Lamar All right, We'll give away a Patriots on Filter

1623
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: T shirt. First person with the correct answer emailed to

1624
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com will win the T shirt.

1625
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: And this should be an easy one. What is Evan

1626
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: Lazar's go to lunch place? What is Evan Lazar's go

1627
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 1: to lunch play? We talked about that on the air

1628
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: a lot. I think we have like raf Airs is

1629
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: he is a good game? Yeah? Um, so first answer

1630
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: correct answer to web Radio Pictures dot Com. Uh, Matt,

1631
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: as soon as you see it, call it out so

1632
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: that we don't get flooded with emails. Uh, don't be shure.

1633
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 1: I just scream on, I did we already have it? Already?

1634
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Have it? Wow? Yeah, you're not paying attention. No, I'm

1635
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 1: paying attention. They just coming so fast they disappear, okay, pressed, Yeah, no,

1636
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: they just came flood it in. You got it? Well,

1637
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: why don't you just name that? I don't want to

1638
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: use van has like a cult following, So yeah, probably talk.

1639
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: We talks about it on Catch twenty two when we

1640
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: go on the road. When we get the information about

1641
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: where we're staying, You don't I put it into Google Maps,

1642
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 1: and I make sure that there's one of these nearby.

1643
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: You go all around the country, and we don't want

1644
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: to try the city's cuisine. You don't want to know

1645
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: just this place, well, especially if it's a one o'clock game,

1646
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: because then I need to get it the night before

1647
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: because it won't be open in the morning before we

1648
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 1: head to the stadium. So I order it the night before,

1649
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: very regimented young man. And uh, and that's what. Yeah, Okay,

1650
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: we have the winner, Kentucky, Sam and Kentucky. The answer

1651
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 1: is Jersey Mike's job a sub above everybody's good jobs. Sam.

1652
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 1: It's the best franchise subplace around. Can't beat it. Yep. Um.

1653
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: So I brought up the Baltimore thing a couple of

1654
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 1: like maybe last week, Lamar Joe, like what you think

1655
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 1: of Baltimore. And this is another part of the equation.

1656
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: It's just how close do you think Lamar Jackson will

1657
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: put the Patriots to being a super Bowl team. I

1658
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: don't want have to go through the whole thing, like

1659
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people feel like the

1660
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: Ravens are a super Bowl contender. I think a lot

1661
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: of people would tell you that the Raiders, the Ravens

1662
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: probably have more talent on their roster than the Patriots do.

1663
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 1: But yet, if Lamar Jackson comes to the Patriots Super Bowl,

1664
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 1: I do think that that does speak to a little

1665
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 1: bit of the cloud that Bill still has among fans

1666
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: and just people in the league that if you give

1667
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: him a player of that caliber at the most important position,

1668
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: he'll figure out how to I think you're becoming lock

1669
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: for the playoffs. I do not think that you too.

1670
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't think you're a lock for the Super Bowl.

1671
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: I agree, but you're you're a making my point. But

1672
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 1: to go back to what I said earlier, you now

1673
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 1: have a bus driver and Bill can. We We've seen

1674
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: that Bill can build the bus. It's it's the driver

1675
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 1: that's one of one that you can't just pick from

1676
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: a tree. You gotta go out and find that guy.

1677
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: So I think that people would just have a lot

1678
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 1: of faith in the fact that if you give a

1679
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: former MVP of the league who's still in the prime

1680
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: of his career age wise, to Bill Belichick, that they're

1681
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 1: going to be a real tough out for whoever they play.

1682
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: And I tend who knows who he'd bring along. Well,

1683
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: that's one of the things like if I'm any team,

1684
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 1: but if I'm Robert Kraft and I'm gonna just back

1685
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: up the truck for Lamar, I sit him down and say, Lamar,

1686
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 1: great to have you on the team. We're gonna get

1687
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: all this money, but I'm gonna need you to do

1688
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 1: some marketing stuff. Well, you know what, offensive guys, has

1689
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,679
Speaker 1: he gotten to sign with the Ravens. That's a fair question.

1690
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about you're now

1691
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: the face of our team. Oh, you're talking about market market,

1692
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what Alex is talking about. Lamar's Okay,

1693
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: let's recruit to Baltimore or let's recruit to Boston with

1694
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick Again, I'm with Fred. I think John Harbor

1695
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: is definitely great head coach. Definitely. Maybe he's not Bill,

1696
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: but he's I think is with Baltimore is that they

1697
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: have a program in terms of team building that's very

1698
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: similar to here, and they're very They're a hard line team,

1699
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: just like the Patriots are. Where this is our this

1700
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: is our math equation, and we're not backing, you know,

1701
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: we're not moving away from it. So it's possible that

1702
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson could say to DeAndre Hopkins, Hey, why you

1703
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: come play with me in Baltimore? But yeah, you can

1704
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 1: get that. Are the Ravens gonna pay him twenty million

1705
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,600
Speaker 1: dollars DeAndre Hopkins twenty million dollars a year? They're not

1706
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: one of those organizations that tends to do that. Which

1707
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: is why I think we're in the mess that we're

1708
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 1: in with Lamar to begin with, is because they don't

1709
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: want to say something to add to this whole thing.

1710
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: You know all the excitement. I think it's I think

1711
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 1: you're a lock for the playoffs if you had Lamar Jackson.

1712
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you're a lock for the super Bowl. No,

1713
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,560
Speaker 1: the division is just yeah. I still don't think you

1714
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 1: even win in the division with Lamar Jackson. Could It

1715
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: could be tough, but you know, maybe you can pick

1716
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: off a game from the Bills with Lamar jass. So

1717
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 1: I think you're a lock for the playoffs. Yeah, absolutely,

1718
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: Jack and Annaba. The reason why Bill Belichick doesn't want

1719
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: to pay a Prima Donna wide receiver twenty million is

1720
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 1: because the Prima Donna wide receiver is often the type

1721
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: of guy who doesn't block on running plays. If you're

1722
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: paying him twenty million, then you're stuck paying him even

1723
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: though he doesn't block on running plays. I can imagine

1724
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 1: a few things Belichick would hate more than having to

1725
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: play a guy who doesn't do his job when he

1726
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: doesn't get the ball. So this is, to me, is

1727
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: the biggest This is the biggest restoration I have a

1728
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Bill over anything else that he does. Is that I

1729
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 1: agree with the emailer. I think he thinks like that,

1730
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, in today's football, like this to me is

1731
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: not about anything besides evolving. This is not We're not

1732
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: coaching the eighties giants anymore, all right, We got to

1733
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: evolve with the times and recognize that guys like Stefon

1734
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: Diggs and Tyree Hill contribute as much to winning as

1735
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks do in some respects. So yeah, maybe he won't.

1736
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 1: You know, DeAndre Hopkins is gonna throw a Julian Edelman

1737
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: esque block in the open field for one of his guys.

1738
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: But the only reason why one of his guys is

1739
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: probably catching and running with the football in space is

1740
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: because DeAndre Hopkins is on the field. Right. If you

1741
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 1: want to say that that's one of the reasons why

1742
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Bill doesn't believe in that, I won't necessarily disagree. But

1743
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: you have to also say though he's wrong, Like what

1744
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 1: do you think of travel as Kelsey is a blocker?

1745
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: Good's terrible? No, he's pretty good. Travis Kelsey yere, He's

1746
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: never thrown a block in his career. He's better now

1747
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: than he used to be. Like, Bill wouldn't really have

1748
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: much interest in that, Okay, great, don't have any interest

1749
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,879
Speaker 1: in the guys that you know difference makers in winning titles.

1750
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 1: Rich in New York City writes in I trust Meek Mill,

1751
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 1: one of my favorite rappers, over guys like Scott Zolak

1752
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: and Chris Simms. Same. Yeah, I mean that's crazy. That's

1753
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 1: just a different conversation. That's crazy. Yeh. Likest Mill who

1754
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 1: has no journalistic background, no like sources that he has

1755
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 1: to worry about. He can make anything up at will.

1756
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: He's not bound to anything, and you trust him more than.

1757
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he did. I'm just saying, like I

1758
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 1: find it hard to put back. I trust a guy's

1759
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: friend over a guy who's like Adam Schefter, whos in

1760
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: the business like that's ay, Adam Schefter. Well, Zoe's not

1761
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 1: making stuff up. Chris Simms, he did not make last

1762
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 1: year A lot of us last week were you in

1763
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: or was that the March Madness day? He didn't lie,

1764
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 1: he said he was. He was going off of his

1765
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: gut instinct. He wasn't trying to break news, right, That's

1766
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: what he said. So what kind of journalistic integrity is

1767
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 1: gut instinct? It was no journalism right, Try to talk right.

1768
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 1: So it's the same to me, you know, I know

1769
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: it's not. I just think that it's I think Meek

1770
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Mills keeping it really, I think it is our job.

1771
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: I think you have an affinity for Meek Mill that

1772
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't really understand. Dreams And I was in prison

1773
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 1: like two years ago. Meek Mills album that he came

1774
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: out with my freshman year of college got me into

1775
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: the best shape of my life. So yeah, I'll be

1776
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: I'll be friends, like a separate conversation. That's irrelevant to

1777
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: the that's irrelevant. Any Meek Mill has been very overrated

1778
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: as an artist. I'm sorry. I do not listen to

1779
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: Evans point of view on rap. So okay, Mill just

1780
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 1: my favorite genre music, but mine too. Anyways, I this

1781
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 1: is not not doesn't need to be done on That's

1782
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 1: what you're wrong. I just air it out. We have

1783
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: plenty of time air it out. Okay, so White, which

1784
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 1: Kanye is my favorite, but now you're not allowed to

1785
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: say that anymore as a Jew. It hurts. I would

1786
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: say my favorite rapper is probably Kendrick, but I just

1787
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: the Meek Mill. Thing he dreams of nightmares is like

1788
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: a good hype up song that I don't know if

1789
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: you've gone into the weeds on his other arm. I'm really,

1790
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 1: I'm really he is not one of the better rappers

1791
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: of my generation of rappers. I'm not putting him in

1792
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 1: any of those categories with Kanye, with jay Z, with Kendrick,

1793
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: with Andre three thousand, with any of those guys like

1794
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: where we're talking about at least a notch or two

1795
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: below all all this respect in the world for his uh,

1796
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 1: his celebrity friendships with with the owner of the Patriots

1797
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 1: aside Rubin, right, yeah, with Philadelphia Fred right, Yeah, Mike Ruben,

1798
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Rick Rubin, No, no, Michael Rubin. I thought

1799
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about the musician. Yeah. I just uh, I'm

1800
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 1: not a Meek Mill guy. I'm just not So who

1801
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 1: else do you? Kendrick Lamar is my favorite rapper. Kanye

1802
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 1: will really like up there. He went to the Garden

1803
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: last year. Um, I love Freddie Gibbs. I don't know.

1804
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that one. I'll get you guys a

1805
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: definitive list later. I'll put it on Twitter. You're like

1806
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Alex if you are looking for like a workout playlist,

1807
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,560
Speaker 1: then then make Mill might be on your workout and

1808
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: talk to the athletes though. Took athletes about who they're

1809
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 1: listening to. They love Meek Yeah, because he's he's one

1810
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: of their guys. Yeah, but see, the athletes to me

1811
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: are like my kid, like, I don't care what he's

1812
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: listening to. I don't. It's so much younger than me. Like,

1813
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: every once in a while, Will and TJ put something on,

1814
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: I'll be like, Oh, who's that? I like that, but

1815
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 1: it's so infrequent. Yeah, it is so disrespectful stuff. I

1816
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 1: don't believe that they I can't believe that My wife

1817
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: hasn't like destroyed both of them for some of the

1818
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 1: stuff they listen to. It's so disrespectful my mom. The

1819
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 1: new age rap stuff gets I can't do. Yeah, my

1820
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: mom used to be very she used to be very

1821
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 1: angry about some of the music that would come out

1822
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: of my I'm not it. Stuff doesn't offend me. There's

1823
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: stuff that offends me. I'll never forget my mom's face

1824
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: the day I had a burned seed of the Carter

1825
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: three by Lil Wayne, and Wayne's a good one. She

1826
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 1: got over it though, Ye Kevin and Dublin, there's a

1827
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 1: bad Hill gang, good good rap. There's a bad coming

1828
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: from the Patriots. At the NFL owners meeting, Graft continues

1829
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: speak openly about the Patriots shortcomings last season, and at

1830
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: this stage of the offseason, I would have expected him

1831
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: to have moved on to look ahead to twenty twenty three,

1832
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 1: but by continuing to look back at the failures, he

1833
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:58,879
Speaker 1: seems to be openly acknowledging that Bill Seed is getting toasty. Meanwhile,

1834
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: Bill seemed even more uncomfortable than usual in his press conference,

1835
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: and I believe his comment about the past twenty five

1836
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 1: years was foolish and arrogant. These two do not seem

1837
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: to be singing off the same hymn sheet, even after

1838
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: the coaching changes, and I feel that the Wickersham awkwardness

1839
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: has crept back into play. Can we assume this season

1840
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 1: is a playoffs or pink slip season? I'm getting there. Yeah,

1841
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: I think it could be. I really, I'm leaning that way. Yeah,

1842
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's pretty apparent to everybody. I

1843
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: thought mister Craft's quote of when he was asked about

1844
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: Shola's record and he said, I love build a break

1845
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 1: Shola's record, but we're about winning. We're about winning. Isn't

1846
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 1: that record about winning? But I think he means I know,

1847
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: you know what he means, and like, wait, he needs

1848
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: eighteen I think, yeah, if he breaks it this year,

1849
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty good season, pretty pretty good, Yeah, pretty good.

1850
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: There's a chance, not surprisingly, Fred, And now you're going

1851
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 1: to attack this from different there's a chance that it

1852
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: goes three years before you break that, Yeah, like two

1853
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 1: and a half. Like you only won eight games last year, right,

1854
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: so what if you win eight or fewer it again

1855
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,559
Speaker 1: this year? Right? So, now you're into your third season.

1856
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 1: You know there's a chance that it's gonna take I

1857
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 1: mean more than likely if he stays and everything, he

1858
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 1: does it in twenty four, at some point in twenty four,

1859
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: but there's a chance it's not until twenty five. Can

1860
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 1: you stick around? Can can you keep him around? If

1861
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 1: you're Robert Kraft? And if you don't break it this

1862
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 1: year and you don't break it next year, you didn't

1863
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: make the playoffs in either one of those years. More

1864
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: than likely unless you really bought him out in one

1865
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 1: of those years. And I don't think that's going to happen.

1866
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,600
Speaker 1: At some point, you just need a philosophical change of

1867
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: how you approach the whole thing. It's not just about

1868
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: in game coaching or game planning, because I still think

1869
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: Bill is at the top of the top and that's

1870
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: when things when I said to Todd, and of course

1871
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 1: everything you say, he like, he'll use against you in

1872
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 1: a court of law. When I said to Todd that

1873
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill has lost anything off his fastball,

1874
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I still think that

1875
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 1: he can put together a game plan and adjust on

1876
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 1: the fly accordingly during the course of a game and

1877
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: not make a ton of mistakes. I'm not telling you

1878
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 1: he's flawless, like with his clock management, his time out

1879
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: use and things like that, but I think he's still

1880
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: the best at that. I think the other stuff, I

1881
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 1: think it's rightly come into questions. Yeah, I think the

1882
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: draft looms large. I think draft they've got to hit

1883
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,759
Speaker 1: his personnel usage. Yeah, you know, some of the decisions

1884
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 1: of all the comments made yesterday, maybe the one that

1885
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 1: is the most important is when Robert says, I've never

1886
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: not given him what he needs. That's putting it all

1887
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: on him. That's putting it all on Bill. You got

1888
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:53,680
Speaker 1: anything you need, including money, So whoever you want, go

1889
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 1: get him. And if you want, if you really want

1890
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 1: to delve into this, like this whole sort of dueling

1891
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: agendas that we saw yesterday, and I think Alex and

1892
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: Evan both talked about this isn't the first time. We

1893
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: think you mentioned last year and just think about like

1894
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 1: in Vegas when you guys were out in Vegas and

1895
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 1: Bill's talking about the taj Mahal that they're practicing in. Right,

1896
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,560
Speaker 1: what do you think that was a reference to? Right, Like,

1897
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: I wish we want better facilities here. I wish we

1898
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 1: had that. Yep, Yep. It seems like it's the like

1899
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 1: I remember my kid would come home when he was looking, Oh, yeah,

1900
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, Billy's house is so great in my life,

1901
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 1: would get so mad we have a nice house too,

1902
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, like she ever tell much you go live

1903
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: with Billy? Yeah, And I know he didn't. I know

1904
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: he didn't mean it that way, but like she would

1905
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 1: take it, you know that way, like, don't you know,

1906
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: be happy with what you got? Yeah, I feel like it.

1907
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: With Bill, it's just so many of like the CEO

1908
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:53,679
Speaker 1: decisions that he's made, from the roster, from the coaching staff,

1909
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: like those are the things that just seemed to have gone.

1910
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: The way that he manages the game, the way that

1911
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 1: he game plans, the way that he coaches up individual players,

1912
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 1: I think is as good as ever, it just seems

1913
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 1: like that philosophy is it might it might be outdated

1914
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 1: at this point. It might just that's my concern is

1915
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: that he's still trying to put the team together the

1916
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 1: same way he always has, with the same kinds of players. Yeah,

1917
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: that he always has, and I don't think her works anymore.

1918
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: Joel's and Hull. What's up Joel? Everyone? Hey, um Paul

1919
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 1: you might remember this in front. I know you might

1920
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: remember this. Remember when um Phil Pastels left it was

1921
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: because of the groceries. Is this turning into that type

1922
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: of a situation, because it sounds like it's from a

1923
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: fans perspective, slowly, Well, it definitely there could be a fracture,

1924
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 1: but not the same because in that one, Parcels is

1925
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 1: saying that he couldn't get who he wanted, and in

1926
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 1: this one Robert saying he didn't get every anything anybody

1927
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 1: he wants. I don't tell him who to get, So

1928
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 1: it's it is a little different in the in the

1929
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think the endgame might be the same,

1930
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,759
Speaker 1: but how they're getting there. I agree with Fred Joel

1931
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 1: and I think that that Robert is going out of

1932
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: his way. In my opinion, to make sure it's not

1933
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: perceived that way. You know, I the last guy said

1934
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: that I didn't let him do what he wanted to do. Yeah,

1935
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 1: the last great coach I had complained that I meddled

1936
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: too much. I think he's trying to tell you to

1937
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 1: the contrary, I give him everything he needs. Yeah, whatever

1938
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: he's asked for, I've given him. Because you know, back then,

1939
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, it was famously you know, I think it

1940
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 1: was Parcel's wanted Cedric Jones and the draft and you

1941
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 1: know they took Terry Glenn, Tony Brackens, Tony Brackens, and um,

1942
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, so Kraft said, you know, I don't as

1943
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,719
Speaker 1: good a play. I don't know if Kraft actually said

1944
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: it or was said, you know, through a conduit, but

1945
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, we spend millions on our scouting department. We're

1946
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: going to listen to them when it comes time for

1947
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,679
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, And so Kraft kind of pushed

1948
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: it off onto you know, this is what scouting was

1949
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: telling me to do, not what I wanted to do.

1950
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,680
Speaker 1: But it's the same, you know, the same thing. Do

1951
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 1: you find um that how many years have you felt

1952
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 1: that we've gone all in? Beside two thousand and seven

1953
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: and two thousand and twenty one, twenty twenty one. I

1954
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 1: think I've always had a lot of I think there's

1955
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: been other I think the year that they brought in Revis,

1956
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 1: oh three, I would say was an all in year

1957
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 1: with like Roosevelt Colvin. That was a big See. People

1958
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: look at the money now and it's comical, it is, right, like,

1959
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: do you remember, oh, seven was all in? Do you

1960
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: know what they paid Wes Welker five years seventeen millions? Right? Well,

1961
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: and I was up in arms. Well even what even

1962
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: the year they they they brought in Bolden, uh and

1963
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: not Bolden, Yeah, oh the Raven, the linebacker Thomas. That

1964
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 1: was seven. That was an all in year. I think

1965
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 1: Joel to me, Joel's got it. Seven is the most

1966
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 1: obvious all It was like, uh, you know you had

1967
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: um Why can't I think of his name now? Dante

1968
01:45:56,520 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 1: Star Star Wars was the number one guy on the market.

1969
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 1: And then you know, you end up doing the trade

1970
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 1: for Welker. Then you have Moss fall in your lap

1971
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 1: and that that wasn't really all in but that no, no, no,

1972
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 1: but I'm on a bargain. They got Moss on a bargain. Right.

1973
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 1: But when you're all in is when you've already made

1974
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 1: moves to get wide receivers and then someone no, no, no,

1975
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 1: we'll take him too, right, that's being all in. Oh yeah.

1976
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,160
Speaker 1: So in other words, instead of well we lost to

1977
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Kobe Myers, so we'll get J. J. Smith. He might

1978
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 1: be a little bit better. Yeah, why not both as

1979
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 1: you like to say, right, you know, that's being all

1980
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: in game, right, Yeah, being all in is saying we're

1981
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: gonna resign Myers and get a guy who we think

1982
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,959
Speaker 1: is better than Myers. That's what it just it baffles

1983
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 1: me that it's is all the same guy. So the

1984
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 1: guy in oh seven, the one for one swashed that

1985
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 1: recognized that Randy Moss and Wes Welker and Dante Stalworth

1986
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: would help the team and they almost had the greatest

1987
01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: season in the history of this I still think it

1988
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 1: is the greatest season, even though they didn't win the

1989
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That that's maybe another topic for another day.

1990
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: And then even the guy the trade for Brandon Cooks,

1991
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:05,680
Speaker 1: who traded a first round pick for Brandon Cooks for

1992
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: one year of service, Right, that was at all in year?

1993
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: I would say, oh three oh seven, I would say fourteen,

1994
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you know, I think you can make an

1995
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 1: argument for twenty one. I think that that was a

1996
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:21,839
Speaker 1: little different because they were they had to like infuse

1997
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 1: the roster with some talent. In twenty one, I just

1998
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,760
Speaker 1: feel like it's it baffles me that that's the same guy,

1999
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 1: but then that same guy won't do it now, you know,

2000
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 1: like where's the Brandon Cooks trade now? Because this is

2001
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 1: they needed more now than they needed it Moses. In seventeen,

2002
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: they still like Gronk. They saw at Edelman like he

2003
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 1: was a cherry on top. In seventeen, Shoddy is in Houston.

2004
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: What's up, Shoddy? Hey the guy? How's it going good?

2005
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 1: I hope y' all doing well. I wanted to ask

2006
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: a question regarding Lamar and the consensus about him around

2007
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,640
Speaker 1: the league, so I know you're more in touch with

2008
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 1: you know what people around the NFL or thing, and

2009
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to see why, you know, he isn't getting

2010
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 1: paid or other teams and other owners. GM's coaches are

2011
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: not really that high on him because when I look

2012
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: at him, I think he's like a unicorn in terms

2013
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 1: of NFL you know, quarterback talent. He can run excellent,

2014
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: pastor he can elevate a team. And then we see,

2015
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,520
Speaker 1: you know, these teams that are paying I think quarterbacks

2016
01:48:29,560 --> 01:48:32,759
Speaker 1: that can grow on trees really like Mac Derek Carr,

2017
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,839
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. All these quarterbacks are getting you know, backed

2018
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, given support by these teams that

2019
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 1: I think needs better quarterback play. So I kind of

2020
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 1: want to see why teams are not going in to

2021
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 1: try and win with Lamore. Yeah. Well, the easy answer

2022
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: is he's not truly free. It's a tricky to find

2023
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 1: to find a situation where all of the stars aligned

2024
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:03,839
Speaker 1: for Lamar. The trade capital, the obviously, just the financial

2025
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,639
Speaker 1: commitment to Lamar Jackson, the need for a quarterback. All.

2026
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 1: It's not that many teams, Like I know, it sounds

2027
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: like it should be every team in the league, but

2028
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,400
Speaker 1: when you really start to whittle it down. But if

2029
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,760
Speaker 1: he was truly just an unrestricted free agent, I think

2030
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: one of those dozen or so teams that you can

2031
01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 1: make an argument for, and Shoddy rattled off a couple

2032
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 1: of them that should be interested in Lamar Jackson, I

2033
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,560
Speaker 1: think they would have signed him. Yeah, but it's not

2034
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: only signing him, it's signing him to a deal that

2035
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore is not going to match and being willing to

2036
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: cough up whatever it takes, if it's a trade or

2037
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: if it's not a trade, it's two for us, round pack.

2038
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 1: And like you've said, Paul, once you make that commitment

2039
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 1: that you're going after him, you've totally disrupted your course

2040
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 1: if you're Atlanta, and if you don't get him, now

2041
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: you're stuck with the guy who right he knows you

2042
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 1: didn't really want me, you wanted him. And the funny

2043
01:49:52,439 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 1: thing is is that we don't even know if the

2044
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 1: Patriots are actually flirting with Lamar Jackson, but we still

2045
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: have that problem right now. We have the problem. We've

2046
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:02,760
Speaker 1: created the problem him for ourselves without even because Meek

2047
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 1: said so, right now, we don't even know if they're

2048
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: going after the guy, but we've still I agree with Shotty.

2049
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you whenever I know Evan does too.

2050
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,799
Speaker 1: Like I think guy I think is a special talent.

2051
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's a special circumstance. He's not

2052
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 1: truly free. And I think that the whole guaranteed thing

2053
01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 1: is a big part of it, Like he wants that

2054
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: with the Shawn Watson got and I think the owners

2055
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: are hell bent on not continuing that, and at this

2056
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 1: point he needs to get it just to prove his point,

2057
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: because if he doesn't get it, why don't you think

2058
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 1: it makes more sense for him to just sign something

2059
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 1: with Baltimore for a shorter term like three years, one

2060
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million, and let's see, assuming that the

2061
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 1: market is as dry on him as it appears that

2062
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 1: it is, I think the smartest thing for him is

2063
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: to probably play on the franchise tag next year. Now

2064
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: with his playing style, I can understand being wary of

2065
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: that because there's not the financial commitments not there, but

2066
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 1: then they would have to tag him again next year.

2067
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 1: Run out of gas for talk, She's like she leaning

2068
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: on her she was all wound up with a meek

2069
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 1: mill talk earlier in the show Away. I'm just she

2070
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 1: had a jumping step about lear Jackson. He's been sentence

2071
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 1: I would play on the tag if I was him. No,

2072
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:21,640
Speaker 1: I think that makes that because at the end of

2073
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: the day, he's just made the same gamble he made

2074
01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 1: last The franchise tag for quarterbacks is not as bad

2075
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: a thing as it's made out to be by the players.

2076
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I understand why most players don't like it, but like

2077
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 1: it's I think you can really parlay it to a lot,

2078
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: like right cousins did. It's a risk because you're leaving

2079
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: probably one hundred million dollars guaranteed on the table that

2080
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Speaker 1: you might get. But at the same time, I thirty

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Speaker 1: two million dollars. It's literally thirty two million dollars in

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Speaker 1: your pocket immediately. So it's guaranteed money. That that that's

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Speaker 1: that's not chump change either. So all right, let's give

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Speaker 1: it away another Patriots Unfiltered T shirt. First correct answer

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Speaker 1: to web radio at patriots dot com the T shirt

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Speaker 1: and the question is which brand of washing machine does

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Speaker 1: Fred claim is the best? Best? Which brand of washing

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Speaker 1: machine does Fred claim is the best? Correct? First correct

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Speaker 1: answer to web radio at pictures dot com wins a

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Speaker 1: T shirt. So Matt is monitoring the mailbox and so

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Speaker 1: as soon as we get the right answer, he'll he'll

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Speaker 1: interrupt me. Uh. In the meantime, let's go to back

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Speaker 1: to the ACE ticket outline. Kyle's in Charleston, South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Kyle? Hey, how you guys doing a winner?

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Speaker 1: Who's the winner? Hold on? Kyle, Andrew Andrew in La.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations and the answer is, of course, Speed Queen, Speed Queen.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Good to know. Evan's like what everyone and

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Speaker 1: Alex's like no me and Fred talks about this. I'm

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Speaker 1: all in with him. You like Speed Queen too for

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Speaker 1: all your industrial washing needs. Is there anything the right way?

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Speaker 1: They don't make as much stuff the right way anymore? Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: just don't get a Samsung. Look at you. Look at

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Speaker 1: the drum and your watching machine. Is it steel? Probably not,

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Speaker 1: it's probably Plastic's right, yeah, Speed Queen. Steele pause like

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Speaker 1: I never do laundry. I don't care, sorry about that, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Pardon Kyle. I do more laundry than anyone in my house.

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Speaker 1: Good for Beth, she makes all the money, she makes

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Speaker 1: all the money lay there, um Lamar. He is a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback. I'm not going to take that away from him.

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Speaker 1: The only reason I wouldn't want to see him with

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Speaker 1: New England is play style and the Patriots were more

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Speaker 1: of a pocket passing lars, more of a mobile get

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Speaker 1: on the run. And last year we saw the injuries

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Speaker 1: kind of plague him a little bit. And honestly, I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of comfortable with either Matt Jones stepping up he

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01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: killed in college, he led Alabama to an undefeated season

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Speaker 1: in winning the Chip, and Zappi when he had to

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Speaker 1: come in, Zappi just he was lighting up files. The

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Speaker 1: things Zappi and Jones aren't way better than we're giving

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Speaker 1: them credit for. Okay, I don't necessarily disagree with with

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Speaker 1: the last piece of that call. I think the one

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Speaker 1: thing that you have to look at with Lamar is

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Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about it schematically. I'm not concerned about

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Speaker 1: his playing style. I'm not concerned about any of those things.

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Speaker 1: But you do have to start targeting some different players

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Speaker 1: to fit the system with the running game that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to use with him. So they don't really

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Speaker 1: have a great blocking tight end, right Kasicki and Hunter

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01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,280
Speaker 1: Henry are not great blockers at that position. They don't

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Speaker 1: have a Patrick Riccard who's kind of a Swiss Army

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Speaker 1: knife fullback. Bring him back, Jacob Johnson. They need to

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Speaker 1: need to start. If that is the case, and they

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Speaker 1: if they trade their first round pick for Lamar, then

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Speaker 1: in the second round Darnell Washington from Georgia. It should

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Speaker 1: be a Patriot, right, Like you need to start going

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Speaker 1: out and getting guys to build that system around him

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Speaker 1: so that it resembles what Baltimore. I think that that's

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Speaker 1: the one thing that you'd have to do is personnel wise,

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Speaker 1: you would have to start really pivoting to bringing in

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Speaker 1: guys that can build a system that Lamar would drive in.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Kyle, Although do you think that the urgency to

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Speaker 1: do that when he was a rookie is not as

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Speaker 1: bad as it is now? Like we really have to

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Speaker 1: like craft our offense so that he can play in

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Speaker 1: it as of now where he's learned things now where

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Speaker 1: maybe he's a little bit more flexible, like you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't, yeah, but I do think you want to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of his oh no doubt his ability to

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Speaker 1: run those Zoe reads. Yeah right, oh yeah, absolutely, And

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Speaker 1: I think to Evan's point, I think you probably want

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Speaker 1: a better point of attack blocker ye on the end,

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Speaker 1: bring you bring back Yako. Plus he speaks Germany. But

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Speaker 1: you can't take it, can't just take the other teams

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Speaker 1: of players team. He's on another team. So and by

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Speaker 1: the way, he led the way for Josh Jacobs having

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Speaker 1: the best year of his career last year. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Josh mcteams is just gonna say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Bill you got Lamar, Now, why don't you take him, Josh,

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Speaker 1: I think you do. Look at h what Billio ran

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Speaker 1: with the Shawn Watson and Houston, which was a little

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Speaker 1: bit more patriot like than what Baltimore runs with Lamar currently,

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Speaker 1: and I do think that Lamar could run that system

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Speaker 1: with its own dressing on it, because it's a different player.

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Speaker 1: But I think he could survive in the pocket and

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Speaker 1: play in the pocket. Though similarly to the way that

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Speaker 1: certainly towards the end of Watson, O'Brien and Houston, that

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Speaker 1: three tight end, yeah right, and they weren't stars. It

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Speaker 1: was like Jordan Atkins and yeah, those guys, but he's

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Speaker 1: a blocker. And then I'm saying that's the only difference

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Speaker 1: is that I think personnel wise, you'd have to start

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Speaker 1: committing to some of these players. And I think an

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Speaker 1: interesting question for Lamar because Baltimore has gone both ways

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Speaker 1: with the receivers that they've gotten for him. They've gotten,

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Speaker 1: you know, fast separators like a Hollywood Brown, and then

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Speaker 1: they've also gotten bigger guys too, So I think you

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Speaker 1: have to get with him and be and have a

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Speaker 1: conversation of who do. What's the type of receiver that

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Speaker 1: you like throwing to the most. Like we know Mark

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Speaker 1: Andrews is a big part of their offense, so maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a tight end, but that those are the types

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Speaker 1: of decisions that you would have to start making immediately

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Speaker 1: once you get him to really get the best out

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Speaker 1: of them. All right, Um, tomorrow Patriots Playbook two to four,

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Speaker 1: John Rooke, Right, So I just want to might have

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Speaker 1: some special guests. Yeah, I just want to mind everybody

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Speaker 1: of that. That's on tomorrow two to four. As for us,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back to a Thursday at noon. Can I

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Speaker 1: ask Evan one more question really quick? For the record,

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Speaker 1: just I wouldn't forgive myself if I didn't assist on there. Yes,

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Speaker 1: our Nas currency or Nipsey hustle in your at least

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Speaker 1: top five. I'm trying to get a feel for what

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Speaker 1: type of REPS fan you are. NAS definitely not currency

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Speaker 1: or Nipsey. No, okay, no, Nipsey would wills? All right?

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Speaker 1: What about half a dollar? Yeah? I won the Candy

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Speaker 1: Shop CD out of one of the special places in

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Speaker 1: my heart because that's that's right in my prime of

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Speaker 1: growing up fifty, but not not in that he's more

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Speaker 1: in the in the meek milk category. Okay, all righty fetty,

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Speaker 1: I don't know like like fetty wapp I like I

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Speaker 1: do like all right? Track Queens Catch twenty two will

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Speaker 1: be here Thursday. Who knows what else will be here

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