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For some, it's a sizeable paycheck. 25 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Mine is helping people wake up and inspiring them to 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: accomplish their goals and live their very best life. These 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: are my passions and that's what I'm going to do 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: for you. I want you to stop tripping over small 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger obstacles that 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: life is going to present to you. The Money Making 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Conversation interviews provide relatable information to the listener about career 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: and financial planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, overcoming the art, and 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: how to live a balance life. My next guest has 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: over forty years of leadership in the service of our communities. 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: He is the former mayor of New Orleans. He was 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: thirty six year olds thirty six years old when he 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: was first elected there. He is currently the CEO of 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: the National Urban League, the nation's largest historic civil rights 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: and urban advocacy organization. He has authored a very very new, 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: very very good book. It's new, brand new, The Gumbo Coalition. 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Ten Leadership Lessons that help you Inspire, unite and achieve, 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Now available wherever books are sold. Please welcome to Money 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. The leader of the Gumbo Coalition, my man 44 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Mark Morel. Hey brother, thank you for having me today, 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: and uh, good data. Your entire listening audience, thank you 46 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: so much. Well, you know, it's a it's a journey 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: we've had. We met over the years when I was 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: managing Steve Harvey and producing this morning show, and I've 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: seen you come in and as a representative of the 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: of the Urban League, just tell us exactly what is 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: the Urban League. National Urban League. National Urban League is 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: a historic civil rights and urban advocacy organization founded in 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: to help black people who were moving to the North 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: from the South to get away from segregation. The Ku 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Klux Klan in lynching and they moved to America's urban 56 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: communities Detroit, Chicago, New York, Boston looking for work. But 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: what they found is they found discrimination, they found prejudice, 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 1: they found difficult conditions, and we rose to assist them 59 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: in both making the transition and in having a voice. 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: And those were our earliest days. In nineteen sixties, the 61 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: late Great Whitney Young became our leader and we became 62 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: a full partner in the nineteen sixties civil rights revolution. 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: Since then, we've been on the front lines working for 64 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: civil rights and economic opportunity through a dynamic network of 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: ninety affiliates that serve three communities in thirty six states. 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: In the District of Columbia. We're a premier job training 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: organization and job placement and organization. We do home buyer preparation, 68 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: We serve youth and free after school and academic preparation services, 69 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: and we serve some fifteen thousand entrepreneurs each year through 70 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: our small business centers. We're a dynamic vehicle to help 71 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: people find economic independence, and we're a voice on the 72 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: national stage for civil rights and economic opportunity. Very powerful, 73 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: very well articulate. I'm not trying to stomp you here 74 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: with this question. What is the difference between the P 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: and the National Urban League. We're like brothers or cousins. Uh, 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: you know the double a CP we founded a year earlier. 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: They're primarily a volunteer organization that does civil rights activism. 78 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: They've got a large network their rural, suburban and urban communities. 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: We are in addition to being a civil rights organization, 80 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: we're also UH do direct services and most of our 81 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: work is carried out by a paid professional staffers who've 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: got two thousand employees across the nation and UH ninety 83 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: physical locations in those communities. So we work closely together 84 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: on a wide range of issues, but distinctly we have 85 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the same mission, but we carry out our work sometimes 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: in complimentary sometimes in different ways. Right. I always view, 87 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: this has always been my view that you know, the 88 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: national urban Lee was more business. They always always felt 89 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: that you guys had they had had more of an 90 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: active role in the shaping the economics of of African 91 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Americans or blacks. Was I was. I was, as I'm 92 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: wrong or incorrect one as you're accurate. Yeah, we have 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 1: a distinct focus on the economic opportunity, on helping people 94 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: find jobs and helping small black businesses and medium sized 95 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: black people's businesses grow and develop, helping people become homeowners. 96 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: There's no question that our focus on economic empowerment is 97 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: what I call it, which is opportunity, it's justice, it's independence. 98 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: Uh is really really what makes us unique, what makes us. 99 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: What I call sweet generous was not the Latin word. 100 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: It means one of a kind. Now, let's let's go 101 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: to the book now, because of the fact that I 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: just wanted to such a stage. Let everybody know what 103 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: you're doing current, how you've been doing that job since 104 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: with two thousand three, correct, two thousand three, after eight 105 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: great years as mayor and my beloved hometown New Orleans, 106 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: of two terms because two terms was the limit, right Uh? 107 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: And then I found an opportunity after practicing law for 108 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: a year in between city hall and this job, to 109 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: to to lead this incredible urban league movement. I'm standing 110 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: on the shoulders with some great people like Whitney Young 111 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: and Vernon Jordan just to name a few. Vernon Jordan's 112 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: powerful name right there. Um a good friend of min 113 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call a good friend of mine, Lavelle. Uh. 114 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: Saw you in New Orleans and talked about a book 115 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: I did. Now you you know your type of I 116 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: look at your life that that book almost feels like 117 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: a TV show, Okay when I read it, and so 118 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: so that means a lot of people have come your 119 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: way and tapped you on the shows. You should write 120 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: a book, You should write a book. What what does 121 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: she say to you, Lavelle, say to you that sit 122 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: you in the direction you know it's time? Tell you 123 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: what she did? You know, she she's that down and 124 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: she said, you know, you should write a book, but 125 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: you should write a leadership book. I said, interesting, she says, 126 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: not a memoir on autobiography with the book about leadership, 127 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: because she says, that's what people want to hear. They 128 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: want a book that they can use. They want a 129 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: book that they can learn from. And you know, I 130 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: was impressed. I mean, here was a sister uh connected 131 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: with the major publishers, HarperCollins, Uh and uh, it was 132 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: really really exciting. And you know, she pushed me. She 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: pushed me, and I said, I said yes, And I 134 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: kind of said, well, you know, walked me through the 135 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: steps because I do have an idea because my mom 136 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: wrote a book. But walked me through the steps. And so, 137 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, we sat down. She said, put some ideas 138 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: on paper, right up, an outline. Let me take a 139 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: look at it. So one thing led to another and 140 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: we spent lots of time together working on this book, 141 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: and her guidance and insight was just so helpful to me, 142 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: just so helpful. I couldn't have done it without her, 143 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: and really her challenge you. And I wanted to do 144 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: a book for a long time. Myself published the Book 145 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: of Speeches in the ninety nineties. About fifteen years ago, 146 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: I started working on a book. I had an agent. 147 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: I got too busy. I lost sight and lost I 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: guess I just lost sight and lost interest. And so 149 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: lavell you know, she she, she challenged me. And I'm 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: just excited that something that was a little intimidating at 151 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: first has come together. I think it's a great book. 152 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful book. It's a beautiful will inspire people. 153 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. You know, you hear the worried. 154 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: A lot of common sense used in common This book 155 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: is a smart common sense. And when I say that 156 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: is that I'm a successful guy. I can say that. 157 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: My resume tells me. I can say that publicly, and uh, 158 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: and I have plans to be successful in the future. 159 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: This book. When I started reading it, okay, it's a 160 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: little bio pick in the beginning, Okay, because it sets 161 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: everything up and then, but at the end of each 162 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: chapter you do a recap about what you just read 163 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: it just to outline and detail exactly the bullet wants 164 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: that you can take. In fact, when you buy this book, 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: you can you can almost rip out every recap and 166 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: just stayplose together and put them on your refrigerator and 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: put them on your mirror, and that can be your 168 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: vision board at your house. That's how you say this, 169 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to I say, the most 170 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: important education I ever had was not the undergraduate degree 171 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: I have from the University of Pennsylvania, not the law 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: degree I had from Georgetown, not the twelve to fifteen 173 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: honorary degrees that I'm so privileged have been awarded. It's 174 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: the PhD in common sense I got from my mama. 175 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: My mama, like so many mamas, was just basically a 176 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: person of common sense. She knew how to read people. 177 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: She knew how to read people in terms of who 178 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: she could trust, who she couldn't trust, who to be 179 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: weary of. She understood, and she sort of, you know, 180 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: willed that into me. You know, I learned watching her. 181 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: I got an incredible dad, but my mom, in terms 182 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: of really influencing you know what I think and who 183 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: I am. It was just such a powerful, powerful, powerful influence. 184 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: And it was all about common sense and keeping your 185 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: feet on the ground and never getting a big head 186 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: and not thinking you all that as as we say. 187 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I love my mother for for 188 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: for teaching me that. And that's why I love about 189 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: this book. She she taught it to me. But it's 190 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: almost like I didn't know I was being taught it. 191 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: It just kind of is from the powers of observation 192 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: and the lessons she taught you. But you but you're 193 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: giving those lessons back to us in writing in an 194 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: organized manner, which is a blessing in itself. I'm talking 195 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: to Mark Moreal. He's currently the CEO of the National 196 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Urban League. He has a book called The Gumbo Coalition, 197 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: Ten Leadership Lessons that help you Inspire, unite and achieve 198 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Now from Houston, Texas. So when you start saying the 199 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: word gumbo, I knew exactly what you're talking about from 200 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: all from a special thing about special thing about gumbo 201 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: is no two gumbos are just alighte. And and when 202 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: you always when you when you think you finished preparing gumbo, 203 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: you can also you can always add a few actually 204 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: ingredients and make it just that much better. And that, 205 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: to me is the essence of gumbo, is that it 206 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: as a collection and an amalgamation of various ingredients. In 207 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: America and the communities that we live in are that 208 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: today made up of all types of people, ethnic backgrounds, 209 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: religious backgrounds, all sorts of dispositions and orientations. That's the beauty. 210 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: See the Gumbo Coalition reflects that very essence, the essence 211 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: of of of diversity, of inclusion, of a multifaceted uh 212 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: if you will nation, We know you would, like you 213 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: said that, we are taking this from the book the 214 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,239 Speaker 1: Gumbo Coalition. It was built to include not only African Americans, 215 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: but also white Latino Asian straights, gage, young, old, and 216 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: all religious groups of my marvel. So the diverse hometown 217 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: New Orleans, that's where it started. And you've carried that 218 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: same mantral, that same lesson or that same common sense 219 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: put it in this book, but also you use it 220 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: to us it in your everyday practices, and that's how 221 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: you carry it through the various chapters in the book. Correct, 222 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: New Orleans was a city that in leading the city, 223 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: you couldn't win an election without a coalition. If you 224 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: couldn't put a coalition together, you couldn't win an election. 225 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: But you have to have a base. You have to 226 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: have a powerful base. I had a very strong base 227 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: of African Americans, but my base is also made up 228 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: of you know, public housing residents, uh, young people, small 229 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: business owners, uh. You know, activists made up my political 230 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: base and it's what I started from. But the base 231 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: was not enough to win an election. The base is 232 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: not enough uh to carry me to victory. So we 233 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: had to build off the base and build this broad 234 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and why coalition in America to day, to lead effectively 235 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: at any level, you have to build coalitions. You have 236 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: to operate off of a base, but build a coalition 237 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: that allows you to leave with effectiveness. Awesome, when we 238 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: come back the next break are when break down some 239 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: of the chapters. I'm talking to. Mark Moreal, the current 240 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: CEO of the National Urban League, has an amazing book 241 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: that is that it's available everywhere online to be bought. 242 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: It's called The The Gumbolt Coalition. Tend leadership lessons that 243 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: help you inspire, unite and achieve. We'll be right back 244 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: with more money making conversation with Mark Moreal. 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That's O T T 279 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: E R dot ai Hi di ru Sean McDonald and 280 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to money making conversations, information that you should 281 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: use as an entrepreneur, as an entertainment, as an as 282 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: an employeer, as an everyday person who's working forty hours 283 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: a week. We're living in the times of pending that 284 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: as we say the pandemic times a time where as 285 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: African Americans we are overtly affected by the COVID nineteen virus. 286 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna come out of it. We're gonna come out 287 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: of as a people, but we're gonna come out of 288 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: a different people with different bat use in different cores. 289 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: And when I read a book like this that the 290 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Gumbo Coalition Ten leadership lessons that help you inspire uniting 291 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: the chief is about putting the right people around you 292 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: consistently understanding you cannot do it alone. Each chapter screams that, 293 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: Each chapter screams to you that you better have a 294 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: plan that just don't jump out there on faith. Jumped 295 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: out there on faith with a plan in both hands. 296 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: And also when you land, make sure you're landing with 297 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: people who believe in you and can assist you in 298 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: your plan for success. That screams in your book mark 299 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: it really does well, you know. I tell you my 300 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: hope is that the book is going to inspire the 301 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: next generation of leaders. And I talked about setbacks. You 302 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: talk about challenges and talk about uh the unexpected, and 303 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: I also talk about where the expectations of me were 304 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: not that high, Like when I had to argue before 305 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: the State Supreme Court in Louisiana as a twenty six 306 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: year old, and the name partner in the law firm 307 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: I was in told me going into the Supreme Court 308 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: that I was going to lose the case. And I 309 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: remember thinking I was so angry with him for telling 310 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 1: me that, but I didn't say a word. I got up, 311 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: gave an argument, and then as we were walking out 312 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: of court, he asked me, he stopped me, said where 313 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: did you learn how to argue like that? I never 314 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: saw a young lawyer argue that way before before this court. 315 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: And anyway, I said, well, coach, I've been on your 316 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: team for a year. You need to put me in 317 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: the ball game, because your lieutenants had me sitting on 318 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: the bench. And a month and a half later, I 319 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: won the case and I decided to leave the law 320 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: firm and do my own thing. And so you know, 321 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: they're setbacks and people trying to diminish you, even you know, unintentionally, 322 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: and it was intentionally or unintentionally, And so you know, 323 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: the book is not all you know, not all roses. 324 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: It's also about setbacks. It's also about challenges. It's also 325 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: about low expectations. It's also about overcoming great challenges and 326 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: and it's also it's about networking, it's about innovation, you know, 327 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: it's about compassion. Uh. Great lessons, it's about teamwork. Great 328 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: lessons I learned, and I learned them from others, and 329 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: I learned it from observing, and I learned them from 330 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: getting kicked, getting pushed, getting knocked down and having to 331 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: get back up. Well, you know, it's interesting. Let me 332 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: just compare something. Um, I currently marriage Steven A. Smith, 333 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: one of the highest profile talents in sports. Man. I 334 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: love steven A. Smith, that's my boy. I managed him now. 335 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: But when I met y'all, was managing Steve Harvey and 336 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: we originally start. I'm just doing a comparison to you, 337 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: and that's why I feel as you started in New Orleans, 338 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: but what you're doing at the National Urban League is 339 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: what's your destiny? Is where we needed your voice because 340 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: Steve we was great in l A. Man. We was 341 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: l A just tearing it up man and number one 342 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: morning show in l A from two thousands two thousand 343 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: and five. But I would look at him. I always 344 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: felt that he had more to offer in a national platform. 345 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: So we left l a huge contract and took a 346 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: lord deal to be uh syndicated nationally because we figured 347 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: we'll step back but go up and we did and 348 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: his voice as in a national level, I feel responsible 349 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: for President Obama being elected twice. I feel responsible for 350 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: a lot of the movements that are positive in music 351 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: for black Americans. Uh. But more importantly so when I 352 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: hear your journey, I'm not saying you're the same people, 353 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: but you are. You are an advocate, a game changer 354 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: in New Orleans if you were just staying in. So 355 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: it was a blessing to me in this country that 356 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: you were only given two terms, okay, because we needed 357 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: you to come out and and and and talk about 358 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: the five point empowerment agenda that's right, which is about 359 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: educational Come on. You know when I when I started 360 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: at the National Urban leg had no idea where the 361 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: journey would take me. But you know, I was blessed, 362 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: really blessed and privilege to have a chance to serve 363 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: as mayor serve as a Louisiana State senator at a 364 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: young age. I mean I got elected at thirty six. 365 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: I raised my hand I just turned thirty six years 366 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: old and accepted the challenge to be mayor. Well, most 367 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: of my colleagues who were mayors of major American cities, 368 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: they were fifteen to twenty years older than me. I 369 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: mean I would sit in the room with all the 370 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: other mayors and I was a young kid on the block. Well, 371 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: six years later they elected me to be their president, 372 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: the president of the U S Conference of Mayor. So 373 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: I was the youngest mayor to ever service president of 374 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: the U S Conference of Mayors when I took that 375 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: post in two thousand and so, you know, the opportunity 376 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: to serve. The reason why I make that point is 377 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: because I say to young people, you're never too young 378 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: to take on a challenge, never too young to serve, 379 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: never too young to excel, and don't let anybody diminish you. 380 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: But you've got to know you're ready. You got to 381 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: have the confidence in ability, and you've got to be 382 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: mature enough to make the difficult and challenging decisions. And 383 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, I feel so so especially that I want 384 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: to give back the lessons I've learned. I want to 385 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: give back the insights that i've that I've I've learned, 386 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: and that's a motivation. Uh, indeed for the book, and 387 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the chance to serve at the national level is something 388 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: special because I've literally visited almost every state in the Union. 389 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: I've been to every city. I've been on the uptown side, 390 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: on the downtown side. I've been in the fancy homes, 391 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: I've been in the neighborhoods. And that opportunity to meet 392 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: people and see and witness and experience their hopes, their fears, 393 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: their cheers, and their aspirations is just unlike anything else. Uh. 394 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: And I've always feel humbled and appreciative of that. It's 395 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: it's two things I want to make sure we talk 396 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: about before we leave the State of Black America, which 397 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: is like a phenomenal This is our nego vision. This 398 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: is something on your vision that was resurrected. And then 399 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: the then the five point Empowerment Agenda that was under 400 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: your agenda as well as the national correct. Yeah. So 401 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: we started out in two thousand and three. We needed 402 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: to have a framework and a plan to go forward. 403 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: So we picked five issues education, economics, health, social justice, 404 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: and civic engagement, and we transformed that into five empowerment 405 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: goals Education, economics, housing, health, and justice. UH. And we 406 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: transformed the work so all of The work of the 407 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: National Urban League is aligned around those five issues, around 408 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: those five goals, around those five things, and we're clear 409 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: we can't beat all things to all people deal with 410 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: every single issue that might be of concern to Black 411 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: America or to urban communities. We needed to create a 412 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: coherent framework and focus, and that's indeed what we did. 413 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: The State of Black America was started by Vernon Jordan 414 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: in six and what I took over in two thousand 415 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: and three. It needed to be revived, it needs to 416 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: be strengthened. So we added a statistical component, a permanent 417 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: statistical component, where we measure the same numbers every single 418 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: year in an index called the Equality Index. We compare 419 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: blacks and whites, unemployment, health outcomes, lifespans, how homeownership rates, 420 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: and across the board, so that every year we can 421 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: report on the numbers, on the facts in so far 422 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: as America's this erasial disparities are concerned, and we report 423 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: on that, and we continue to report on that every year, 424 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: and it continues to show disparities not only in health, 425 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: but the greatest disparities are in economics. Not only in 426 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: health and economics, but in education, in how the criminal 427 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: justice system treats us in civic engagement. This is the 428 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: work you know of the urbanly movement today. This is 429 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: the work. It's framed around the state of Black America, 430 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: and we compare blacks and whites. We compare blacks, whites 431 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: and Latinos because we need to understand where we are 432 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: as a nation if economic parity is our objective. And 433 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: that was and that's that's what I'm just talking to 434 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: when I'm on speaking to you, is that when I'm 435 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: reading the book and I'm breaking down different chapters, the 436 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: one thing that I kept hearing ringing out to me 437 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: was this the plan, the plan, How you having a plan, 438 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: and then how you deliver the plan. That's what this 439 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: That's what this book really talks about. You know, you 440 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of brilliant ideas. Basically what you're saying, 441 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: build a house, you have to have a plan. To 442 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: cook a good meal, you have to have a recipe. 443 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: To be a great musician, You've got to have a 444 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: musical score, even if you improvise in between UH to UH. 445 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: To lead, you need a plan. To fight a war, 446 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: you need a plan. To bring about peace. You need 447 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: a plan. So planning is a really important element of leadership, 448 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: and then knowing when to modify the plan. There are 449 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: times that come when you might have to throw the 450 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: plan right out the window, right out the window, and respond. 451 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: So right now we have to respond to this pandemic. 452 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: So we might put a plan aside, but what we 453 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: quickly do is develop a new plan. And it might 454 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: be let's develop a short term plan. Let's focus on 455 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: what we need to do, uh, in order to confront 456 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: the challenges now. So planning is critical, and learning how 457 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: to plan, and then communicating your plan, knowing how to 458 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: communicate your planny, knowing how to talk to your constituents, 459 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: to talk to your followers a much. But not just 460 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: have it living in a file, not just have it 461 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: living on your computer, not just have it living in 462 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: your head. You know when I when I, when I 463 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: was reading the book, you know I'm talking to Mark 464 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: Mareali these day all Currency or the National Urban League. 465 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: He has a fantastic new book called The Gumbo Coalition. 466 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: Ten leadership lessons that help you inspire that will that 467 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: will help you inspire united and achieve your goals, your dreams, 468 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: your organization and rising to the top. When I, when I, 469 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: when I was reading this and we were talking about 470 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: the plan, and then I got to the the you know, 471 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: the five points of an agenda, and then I got 472 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: to the state report, and then I started and I 473 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: read the report and it was something that really stunned me. 474 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: That was talking about Native Americans were denied an opportunity 475 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: to vote in two and then we're not guarantee. The 476 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: last state to guarantee you then was New Mexico in 477 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: the eighteen sixty two. And I always tell people my 478 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: degree is in mathematics. Numbers don't lie. And that's why 479 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: I like the way you do business. I would like 480 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: the way you talk with you in your book, you 481 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: talk about numbers, you bring up statistics, you you lay 482 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: out a plan that this is not a theory, this 483 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: is how you should do business. You showed examples of 484 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: how you did business, how you had to maneuver the people, 485 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: you had to maneuver with the people, you have to 486 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: work with, people who didn't like you, how you had 487 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: to bring them on your side of the table. And 488 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: I always tell people, I said, percent of the people 489 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: did not make money with I don't really care what 490 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: they for breakfast, I really don't. It's how I do 491 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: business with him in public, and that's what your book 492 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: is about. My book also talks about networking and working. 493 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: When we talk about different kinds of friends, you know, 494 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: you have intimate friends, and then you have, uh, those 495 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: who you are acquainted with, and then you just have 496 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: those that you professionally know. So the idea is you 497 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: can have I know a lot of people, but just 498 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: because someone's your friend doesn't mean there's your intimate friends. 499 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: But then many times acquaintances have great value. They validate, 500 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: uh they there there what sements your reputation or can 501 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: undermine your reputation if you develop a bad reputation. So 502 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, in my book, it's all about practical tips. 503 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: It's all about experiences that I've had, and it's all 504 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: about the people who have helped need become who I've become, 505 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: but more important than their relatable experiences. That's what I 506 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: appreciated most about your book. I wanted to let you 507 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: know that I have a social media almost a million followers. 508 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: I have a fan club out every Friday at nine 509 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: am two any thousand fan club members. I want to 510 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: put a banner of your book in the man I'll 511 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: just let you know the man, I appreciate you. I 512 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: appreciate you and uh to come on my show and 513 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: allowed me to let you know the greatness that you've 514 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: accomplished in your life. What you know, but sometimes, like everybody, 515 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: you need to remind it that you are a gift 516 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: to America. You are changing not only you've changed my life, 517 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: but my daughters twenty two and you're laying a path 518 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: for how to have a great life. So thank you 519 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Conversation, Mark Maria. I appreciate 520 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: you so much. God bless you and be safe, be healthy, 521 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: and keep the faith always and get those banners to 522 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: me so I can promote your book. Okay, you got 523 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: it all right. 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