1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Ka boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: a week was enough, I think again. He's the last 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: He treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: the rich pill poppers in the penthouse the clearing House 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: of Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere. 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: We are back at it. Another weekend is underway. Happy happy, Happy, 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Happy Friday. I know you're excited at another edition of 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: The Fifth Hour with Ben Mallard, and we will not 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: shut We're not going to shut up. It's it's more 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: audio content all weekend long, along with Danny g Radio. 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: But on this particular edition from the Fifth Hour podcast, 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: it is us me. I know you're disappointed, but Danny 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: will be with us throughout the weekend. So we'll have 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: Danny in on Saturday and Sunday. But on the Friday podcast, 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: we like to talk to somebody who we know. I mean, 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: we do this on the radio on the overnight. We 19 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: do this five nights a week, and this of course 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: podcast filling in the other part of the week. So 21 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: it's eight days a week because four hours a night 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: are not enough on the overnight. And I'm really jones 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: into talk some football today, and so I thought, who 24 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: better to talk to than a a man who is 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: a colleague at Fox Sports Radio, is a big star 26 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: on TV at the NFL Network and also on NFL 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: dot Com. So Bucky Brooks is going to spend some 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: time with us right now. He played in the NFL. Now, 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, people say, well, former NFL player Bucky Brooks, 30 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: they don't often talk about, like where did he play? 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: And and Bucky got to bounce all over the NFL. 32 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: He must have like the greatest man cave uh in 33 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: the world. He played for the Green Bay Packers, Jacksonville, 34 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Buffalo, played with the great Marv Levy, kind 35 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: of the tail end of the Buffalo Bills and they're 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: they're running. Also played for the Oakland Raiders, So he 37 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: bounced around the NFL. Was a defensive back, kind of 38 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: a kick return guy uh in the NFL. And he's 39 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: been on the NFL Network since oh nine. He's been 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: contributing to Fox Sports Radio for many years. So let's 41 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: welcome in now, Bucky Brooks and and Bucky before we 42 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: get into the meat and potatoes of the football. You know, 43 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: you're one of the few people, Bucky, that has seen 44 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: me play golf. A couple of years ago before COVID 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: in ten, we had a big company golf of somehow 46 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I got invited to it, and uh, it was horrific. 47 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: I think people are still washing their eyes out, Bucky, 48 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: it was that bad. Do you recall that round of golf, 49 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: that faithful round of golf? What do you remember about that, 50 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: Lord Ben? I can't. It is one of the favorite 51 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: stories that I tell. The round the golf that you, 52 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: myself and Micael replayed at a Fox event. It was epic. Uh, 53 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: it was fun. It was forever memorable. That is the 54 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: way that I described the experience. Yeah, I think I 55 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: would be like a cross between Tiger Woods and Helen 56 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Keller on the on the on the golf course. But 57 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: I I actually and you're you know, you listen, you 58 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: you're you're pretty good, you know, and I'm I'm you know, 59 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm I sucked. But I I actually managed to hit 60 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: a plastic was it a chair or a table? I 61 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: forget I hit a inanimate object t at the t 62 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: on one It was insane. How bad I was that day? 63 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't crazy, man, it was funny. But you know what, 64 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: that's what so beautiful about this sport of golf. Anybody 65 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: and everybody can participate, and as long as we're not 66 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: too serious about it, we all can have a good time. 67 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: And it was a good time being Yeah, it was. 68 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful course. It was in where was that, Dina, 69 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Dina point Newport, So I don't know. I was down 70 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: in Orange County somewhere. But it was awesome, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. 71 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: But how about you, Bucky, I mean, you're a big 72 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: star over there at the NFL Network and the NFL 73 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: dot Com and you're blowing up here. And how many 74 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: years have you been doing that now? Oh my gosh, 75 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: I think I started over the NFL Network two thousand nine. Yes, 76 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: I've been around. I've been around a few iterations, a 77 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: few changes. He was trying to make my way through. 78 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: But now it's been a lot of fun. It's been 79 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, kind of growing in doing more 80 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: stuff as opportunity to kind of come our way. Yeah, 81 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: And it's also one of those things, right, you've been 82 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: there so long you kind of know the ebb and 83 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: flow of you know, like we're getting into the playoffs. 84 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Now it's coaching season, and then after that it's going 85 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: to be the draft, which is massively big. So like 86 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: there's certain events, right, you kind of have it all planned. 87 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: You've been doing it so long you kind of know 88 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: what you you know what what month it is, what 89 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: you've got to be doing, right. Yeah, So my arrival 90 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: at the NFL also coincided with the league kind of 91 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: making a shift where they wanted to make um where 92 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: they wanted to make football three sixty five. And so 93 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that every month of 94 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: account of year there's something related to football. And what 95 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: has done It has increased the interest, put more eyeballs 96 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: on the sport. And I've been one of the biggest 97 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: beneficiaries because we're more eyeballs that needs we have to 98 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: do more reporting and talking and all that other stuff. 99 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: So it's been great for business. Yeah, well, you know, 100 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: you are the expert, Bucky, So I did want to 101 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: get into it. I'm fascinated, you know, doing talk radio 102 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: all these years. The coaching carousel in the NFL. It 103 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: seems like every year, we get like anywhere from I 104 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: don't know, five to ten coaches. I think ten might 105 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: be too much. But we're eight right now as we're 106 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: talking now of NFL teams have decided to change coaches 107 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: and we're not I mean, we are we even done? Bucky? 108 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: Do you think we'll see some more? David Culley was 109 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: the latest coach apparently out with the Texans, so he's 110 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 1: number eight. Do you think anyone else is in danger? 111 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: As far as the teams that are in the playoffs 112 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: per se, I think any of these other coaches might 113 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: lose their job depending on what happens this weekend. Now 114 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: you know what's crazy. I think all the teams the 115 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: season should be safe. You want to keep an eye 116 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: on it. Obviously, the Los Vegas Raiders has done a 117 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: great job at the ENIM coach. Still doesn't mean that 118 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: he's assured of carrying on a dead head coach, so 119 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: we have to see how that plays out. And then 120 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: the last one to keep an eye on is the 121 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: conversations that were taking place in Seattle with Pe Carol 122 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: and John Snyder. I would expect him to stay on board, 123 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: but man, now you never know. And I think what 124 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: we're seeing is in this league and ultra competitive league 125 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: because the league has gone out of its way to 126 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: create Perry. You're seeing about of the league turn over 127 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: annually and so new coaches come in and if you're 128 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: not able to win with whatever rosster you inherit, it's 129 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: gonna be an issue. And so you just have to 130 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: be able to win games with what you have and 131 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: to you can do to rebuilding that you have to 132 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: do um In the meantime, it's it's crazy time in 133 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: the league for sure. Yeah. Well, it's almost like that 134 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: that the r word rebuild that's been eliminated bucky from 135 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: the end of it. And you can't like David Culley 136 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: of all people, right, that's a great examp. I mean, 137 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. David Colleess been around the 138 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: NFL a long time and just a veteran assistant coach. 139 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: He gets the job in Houston. They knew they were 140 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna stink, right, Everyone knew they were gonna be bad 141 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: because of what's going on with the quarterback and all that. 142 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: And they won like four games, which I think is 143 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: three more games than I thought they would win uh 144 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: this year. But but he's gone after after one year, 145 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: So you can't. I don't think you can really rebuild bucket. 146 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I think that's over. I think you, as you said, 147 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: you gotta win and if you're not competitive, you're done, right, 148 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's those are the steaks you know going in. 149 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: But but the good news Buckeyes they pay a lot 150 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: of money, right, and these jobs pay a lot of money. Yeah, 151 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think we're just beginning to kind of 152 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: get around the number that coaches are being paid. Uh, 153 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: you think about what John Gruden was able to find, 154 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: Tim million dollars, what people reporting Pete call and bi 155 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: ab Belichick getting anywhere from like if your team million annually. Yeah, 156 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: it's a big job. It's a big deal. And so 157 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: what she's trying to do is you're just trying to 158 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: see how can you win games with what you inherit 159 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: and too, you're able to put the pieces in play 160 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: to play the style of play that you want to 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: play long term. Well and also, Bucky like this is 162 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: always my argument. You know people sometimes I get upset 163 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: because then I'm I'm on late at night and I'll 164 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: rant and rave. And I've never had an issue ranting 165 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: about a head coach losing their job, because to me, 166 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: it's not like the real world. You know, in the 167 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: real world, when someone losing their job, they gotta go 168 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: get unemployment and all that stuff to big pain in 169 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the ass. But like Joe Judge is a great example. 170 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: Joe Judge failed with the Giants. It did not go well. 171 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: They were not competitive and they were you know, they 172 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: just were just a blah team. And I don't feel 173 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: bad for Joe Judge because he signed a five year 174 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: contract and good for him. He's got three years and 175 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: I think fifteen million dollars or something like that coming 176 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: his way, which is great. So to me, that's not 177 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: like there's no comparison to the real world. So you know, 178 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: these guys, if they want to coach again, I guess 179 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: they can, or they can just kind of hang out 180 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: and collect the paycheck. So it's it's not it's not 181 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: something to be angry about. I mean, that's just part 182 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: as as we've talked about as part of the gig, right, Yeah, 183 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: it's part of the game for the upper guys, right, 184 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: So for the hit the head coaches, their money is guaranteed, 185 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: so I think it report Tims reported that maybe Joe 186 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: Judge had a bunch of pieza and beer sit over 187 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: to his house after you got this myth because he 188 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: does have your team knows that he's collecting over the 189 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: next three years. But for all of his assistance and 190 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: the people that have worked up under them, they don't 191 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: get those same guarantees in terms of the amount of 192 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: money and that stuff. So for the hand coteam, yeah, 193 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: it's great because they end up getting financial security. But 194 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: for the other guys, it might mean another move, it 195 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: may mean uprooting your family and doing some other stuff. 196 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: But that is also the business that teach of those 197 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: guys that choke. All right, So Bucky, we've got as 198 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: as we speak right now as we're recording this podcast, 199 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: there are eight coaching jobs open the NFL. If you, Bucky, 200 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: were a candidate for these eight jobs, which one would 201 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: you want? Bucky? Which one would you say? That's the 202 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: one I want. That's the one that is set up 203 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: to win and and get in the playoffs next year, 204 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: That's the one I want to have. I will take 205 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings job as the one where you can 206 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: win right away. Um. And the reason why is because 207 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: when you look at that the vision the Bears are down, 208 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: the Lions are down, the Green Bay Packers. At the 209 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: top of Aaron Rodgers thirty years thol, so how much 210 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: longer will he continue to play? You? Inherit the roster 211 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: that has a really good receivering Justin Jefferson, you have 212 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Adam feeling, you have a quarterback. And I'm not necessarily 213 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: fired up about Kirk Cousin, but I think you probably 214 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: can win enough your first year when you have to 215 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: take him on to kind of jump side the program, 216 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: and then defensively you have some weapons. And so for me, 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings job is the first choice. The second 218 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: choice will be the Denver Broncos. But the biggest caveat 219 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,239 Speaker 1: with the Broncos, who is going to be your quarterback 220 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: in the the vision that is motivate quarterback like Patch Mahomes, 221 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and even Derek carr Well. And then on 222 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: the on the flip side, Bucky Uh. If you know 223 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: Team X called you up, you would say, no, I'm 224 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: staying at the NFL network. I have no interest in 225 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: in coaching your team. Would that be Houston? Would that 226 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: be I don't know. Miami. Seems like people are really 227 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: down on the Dolphins. Because of what they did with 228 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Brian Flores. With that, what's what's the worst gig that's available? Well, 229 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: I think that the Houston gig is probably the toughest 230 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: one to take on, just because of the instability within 231 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: the organization. You have David Color Ben Fried up for 232 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: one year, So then you wonder if I signed this, 233 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: you know how long am I going to be given 234 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: to rebuild the program too? I don't know what's going 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: on with the quarterback. He has the civil uh mitigations 236 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: that he has to work out. He says he doesn't 237 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: want to come back, So who's going to be my quarterback? 238 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: I got Rookie did just finishing Davis's mills, but we're 239 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: dead going to be good enough? And then I look 240 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: at the cat salary cap situation, the lack of draft pick. 241 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: It just makes it a very very hard rebuild. And 242 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: so you just kind of wonder, can I go in 243 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: there and be successful, and can I be successful early 244 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: in to get myself an opportunity to see the end 245 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: of my see it through the end of my contract. Yeah, 246 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: and I I agree, Man, that's a hot mess. That's 247 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: a hot stew that's not good. Uh. And he was now, 248 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: what what is your take, Bucky on on Brian Flores. Like, 249 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: I I kind of get what the Dolphins were doing 250 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: because the owners old he's got a lot of money 251 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: and he's upset that. The to me, that the problem 252 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: that Dolphins had as they've been passed by Buffalo the 253 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: last couple of years and now the Patriots are kind 254 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: of back. You know, they had that one down year. 255 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: I know the Dolphins beat the Patriots a couple of times, 256 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: uh in slash two here in January. But uh, Like, 257 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are in a weird spot because they're not bad, 258 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: they're just kind of in the middle and they're ahead 259 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: of the Jets, but the Bills have passed them by, 260 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: and the Patriots have passed them by. But the Dolphins 261 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: have been getting killed here for the Brian Flores move. 262 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: But where are you at on that one? Well, I 263 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: think the reason why they've been killed is because the 264 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: dolphs the Dolphins at back and back when he season 265 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: and so you saw a team win eight out of 266 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: their last nine games, and so that the period that 267 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: the momentum we're going in the right direction. The issue 268 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: that you have when it comes to Brian Flores is 269 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: constant turnover, offensive line of coaches, offensive coordinators. You just wondered, Man, 270 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: if a guy that is easy to work with, can 271 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: you have kind of like that collaborative union that most 272 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: kids want to have. And so they decided to move on. 273 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: But I think he's a really good coach. I think 274 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: the results speaks for themselves, particularly on defense. I think 275 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the one thing that he has to do on the 276 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: next go round is he has to make that the 277 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: people that you lined up with um all the line 278 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to people holding people to high levels 279 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: of accountability commitment in those things, because if you don't 280 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: have people that are kind of get the same, it 281 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: just makes it very very difficult for you to do 282 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: your job in an effect the minute. So let me 283 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: let me run a conspiracy theory by Bucky because I 284 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: believe now I've seen these stories of the last week 285 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: or so since Brian you know, it's been a little 286 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: less than weeks as we're talking, since Brian Flores was 287 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: let go, and it reminds me I see this in 288 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: all sports. I see this basketball, football, Uh, baseball, the 289 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: sport where Brian Flores was like, oh, it is an 290 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: unpopular move, and the Dolphins are losing the PR battle 291 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: right there, getting killed by a lot of the media. 292 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Is it true, Bucky, that somebody 293 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: around the Dolphins has been planting uh, negative stories about 294 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: Brian Flores. I've seen I've seen a few things pop 295 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: up here and and and you mentioned I think you 296 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: reference some of them, the the turnover and the coaching staff. 297 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: The I read his story the other day that you 298 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: know he shouted it to a tongue of Iloa, which 299 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I think in the old days, Bucky, when you were playing, 300 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: they just called that coaching. Uh. And then you know 301 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: there's some other other negative stories that have been been planned. 302 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: You think, do you think those are kind of PR 303 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: stories trying to get back and when the when the narrative, 304 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: if you will. I mean, look, I think it's a 305 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: little bit of both. I think so there's some truth 306 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: and some of those nuggets that have been reported. Obviously, 307 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: what the Dolphins are trying to do is just trying 308 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: to kind of relived and justify why they made the 309 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: move and why Steven Ross said it was important to 310 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: move off from Brian Floyd's despite the ontil success that 311 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: something had seen. Um, Look, man, I believe that the 312 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: truth probably last somewhere in the middle. I believe he 313 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: probably felt what he was doing was coaching by holding 314 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: guys to a high standard. I feel like you probably 315 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: had some overly sensing of people within the building who 316 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: didn't like being held accountable for performance and standards. And 317 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: so what you have to do is just kind of 318 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: evaluate as you go forward what you want to do 319 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: with the team and what's the best way to kind 320 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: of build a winner down in mind? Is that the 321 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: guy most likely to get another job? If you if 322 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: you know all the guys that have lost jobs over 323 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: the last week, there's eight again, eight coaching jobs. Is 324 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: seems like that everyone seems in agreement that Brian Flores 325 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: is going to get another job. Is that a is 326 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: that a fatal complete here, Bucky, or is there a 327 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: chance Brian Flores ends up I don't know, sitting on 328 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: the sidelines, uh, you know, doing TV with you or 329 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: something at Man. I think it's always the possibility that 330 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: he ends up not landing in one of the music 331 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: but chairs. I think a lot of it has to 332 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: do with who's doing the hiring, that we have a 333 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: connection with those guys. Honestly, his name has been linked 334 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: to the Houston Texas because Nick cass and Jake used 335 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: to be Jack needs to be come from the Patriots 336 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: in the Patriots way, and so there's it previous relationships. 337 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: But just don't know because I think what people have 338 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: to what he has to answer for an interview, what 339 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: went wrong in Miami where they felt like they had 340 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: to move on and then they'll do some back digging 341 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: and kind of see what actually took place. But I 342 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: do believe he's in a good spot can get another job. 343 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: It just depends on who's doing the hiring. Got you 344 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: all right and explain to me this, But you've been 345 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: around the end if you played a long time, you know, 346 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: did on TV for a long time. So it seems 347 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: like the same every year, the same names pop up. 348 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: There's like there's a finite amount of names. I've seen 349 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: maybe seven or eight names that are mentioned for every 350 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: one of these jobs, and maybe there's a few more 351 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: than that. But how does this work? Does do the 352 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: NFL teams all used the same head hunting service? Uh? 353 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: It seems like there's only a finite, as I said, 354 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: amount of coaches every year that are the flavor of 355 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 1: that offseason. So how does that work? How did they 356 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: come up with the proverbial list of candidates? Uh? The 357 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: popularity contest, To be honest, what you've been Uh, it's 358 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: one of those situations where no one really knows what 359 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: makes up a good head coach. And so you have 360 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: agents who are tired with media members who give names out. 361 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: You have people who are speculating because they see an 362 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator has success or defensive coordinator success that oh, 363 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: they're ready to be a head coaching. In all honesty, 364 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: being a great coordinator has nothing to do with being 365 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: a su customer coach. The two completely different jobs and scripts. 366 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: And so we get a lot of names that we 367 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: see on TV because we see them with the playsheet 368 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: in the card and it looked like their leaders. But 369 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: we really have no idea. And I think a lot 370 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: of the reasons and um, a lot of those teams 371 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: struggle when it comes to hiring and that they really 372 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: don't know what they want and what they need in 373 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: a head coach. Yeah, it's it's crazy like this, you know. 374 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: And you mentioned the agent thing, and I do think 375 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: that's also a big part of it, Like, because these 376 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: guys are tied in with the insider crowd, and then 377 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: that becomes becomes a dude. Now, I'm not gonna spend 378 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: all my time with you, Bucky, ranting about coaches, but 379 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: I did. I didn't want to run this by you. 380 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: Now this is probably related to the popularity contest, but 381 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: how many more Bill Belichick assistant coaches have to go 382 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: out of the Patriots and do a pratt fall before 383 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: teams kind of shy away. It seems like, you know, 384 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: even this year, I've I've seen Josh McDaniel's name mentioned, 385 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: Mayo the defensive guy, uh and the Bill Belichick coaching tree. 386 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: The guys that have left the Patriots have other than 387 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: I think Bill O'Brien is the only one that has 388 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: a as an overall winning record. I know Brian Flores 389 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: was was doing better, but it's a it's a bad situation, 390 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, And yet teams continue to go back to 391 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: the well. You know why why is that? Why do 392 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: they keep going back? These guys have not done well 393 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: that have left the Patriots. One of the reasons why 394 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: they keep going back, and because over the last twenty years, 395 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots have been the most successful franchise and so 396 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: everyone wants a little taste of the organization that won 397 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: six Super Bowl championships. The problem is you don't get 398 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick when you bring on one of those guys. 399 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: You might get the program in terms of the way 400 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: that it looks, but you don't get the full understanding 401 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: behind behind why he runs the program like that. And 402 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: I think the big part that's missing is that these 403 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: guys are great with xes and oh they know how 404 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: to do all the winning things. I think the people's skills, 405 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: the interpersonal communication skills, is lacking for a Patriots assistant, 406 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: and until they figure out that part of it, it's 407 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for them to win in a business 408 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: that is really a people's business more so than an 409 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: excello business. So explain to me. But you now, you 410 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: played for a bunch of teams, played with Packers, Jacksonville, 411 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Buffalo, you know, the Raiders. You were all 412 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: over the place. But like when you were around all 413 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: those different coaches, like, how much actual coaching because the 414 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: head coach do. What I mean by that is if 415 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: you're not calling the players on offense, and you're not 416 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: calling the players on defense, like you know, how how 417 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: hands on is the head coach? Is? It? Is? It 418 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: more of dealing with the media and kind of overall situation. 419 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: If you're not calling the place, how much how much 420 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: of these guys actually doing I would say, like, I've 421 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: been fortunate because in my pro career I played for 422 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer more of Levy Um super Bowl winner 423 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: and Tom Coughlin, John Gruden, Mike Hoglan and then uh, 424 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, let Marty Schadham who want two in the games. 425 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: I would say that the the guys who weren't calling plays, 426 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Marv Levy, Coughlin and Shodheimer, they basically just set the 427 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: vision for the program to make sure that hey, he's 428 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: really want to achieve this week, he's are we going 429 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: to do it? They trusted to do assistant coaches would 430 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: get it done. But then they always made sure that 431 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: the team was in line with the vision in which 432 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: they wanted the team to play. John Guten and Mike 433 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: o who are running the offense um look, they trusted 434 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator to handle death out of the ball, 435 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: and then they were basically offensive coordinator pluck. They were 436 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: hold of the offense. The guys in the front of 437 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: the room, but it was kind of two factions. It 438 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: was the offense and then the head coach of the defense, 439 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: and then they would come together on game there got you, 440 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: got you? So all right? Now, well, you do have 441 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: experience with all these these different coaches back back in 442 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: the day, I didn't want to talk Bucky about some 443 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. Now on the story to me that 444 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: is most interesting since the season the regular season ended 445 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: is in Indianapolis where Carson Wentz is. I feel like 446 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: he's hanging on by a threat. I thought, well, there's 447 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: no way he's not back based on the contract. But 448 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: some of the comments this week Chris Ballard, the GM 449 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: of the Colts, uh, you know, he would not comment 450 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: on Carson Wentz and his future. Frank Reich, the guy 451 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: that was like the big cheerleader for Carson Wentz and 452 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: had him in Philadelphia, he distanced himself from Carson Wentz. 453 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Is is this something or nothing? Bucky? Are we reading? 454 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: Am I reading too much into this? Or is there 455 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: is there something going on in Indianapolis? I think there's 456 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: something going on because the way they finished in disappointing fashion. 457 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: I think whenever you fail to live up to expect Tason, 458 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: you take a major step back because you gotta remember 459 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: the team not only went to the playoffs, which team 460 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: was one that was expected to be almost a Super 461 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Bowl contended. Um, they bring back a roster that was 462 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: pretty solid and the quarterback didn't perform well. They also 463 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: had some other issues, but the thing that you saw 464 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: was Carson Wentz in big moments when they weren't able 465 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: to run the ball and lean on Jonathan Taylor. He 466 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: was not able to consistently get the job done. And 467 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: so what I think they wanted to do with give 468 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: themselves a little liberal room where they could reevalue the 469 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: program after all the emotions aside, and when they make 470 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: a solid decision on how to go forward with the quarterbacks. 471 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: But I do believe looking at the other quarterback bringing 472 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: competition in that stuff certainly has to be in play well. 473 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: And I've been I've been hearing for for years. I'm 474 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: sure you've heard the same thing. That Jim Rsey is 475 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: holding out hope that Andrew luck is going to walk 476 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: back through that door. We saw him the other day 477 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: at the College Football Championship. He did not look like 478 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: he's in any shape to come back and play football 479 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I imagine they'll at least reach out 480 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: to him right Bucky to see, Hey, do you wanna 481 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: do you want to come back and play? Is that 482 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: door completely closed? Do you think? Because Andrew Luck is 483 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: still young enough where you know, I think he's gonna 484 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: be thirty three or he is thirty three, so he's 485 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: still still young enough, and he's still I believe lives 486 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis at least part of the year, so he's 487 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: in the area. How do you think that's gonna go? Look, 488 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: I think based on the way he looked, it looked 489 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck has done we're playing football. It looked 490 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: like he's completely let uh the body go in terms 491 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: of light, the physicality, and the way that he physically 492 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: looked when he was a football player. And if he's 493 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: to be very very happy. So but man, you can 494 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: always kick the tires and see if he has any enter. 495 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: But didn't appear based on the integet view that we 496 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: saw with him in r G three, that he has 497 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: any inkling to return to the game that so many 498 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: of us thought he's gonna be a dominant player ahead 499 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: he does. He looks more like he's ready for the 500 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Tour de France or something. Right. I mean, he lost 501 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: a lot of weight, he just kind of looks like 502 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: he's ready to get on a bicycle or something. To me, 503 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on with that, but uh yeah, yeah, 504 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: he definite doesn't look like a football player anymore for sure. Yeah, 505 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: and then I know the usual names will pop up out. 506 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting out in front, Bucky's what I'm doing here. 507 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: But the quarterback roulette. Now, last offseason I wasted a 508 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: lot of valuable airtime ranting about Russell, Wilson and Aaron Rodgers, 509 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's a de ja vous situation 510 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: that once the playoffs end, these guys are going to 511 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: be in play again. And who is most like between 512 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: those two, Bucky, who is most likely to be playing 513 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: for a different NFL team next season? Is it Russell 514 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: leaving Seattle or Aaron Rodgers leaving Green Bay? You know, 515 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't think either 516 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: guy leaves the situation. I think we're Russell. Russell doesn't 517 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: really have the leverage to force his way out, and 518 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't think after last season, the Seahawks who want 519 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: to move on without welcome because the quarterback is the 520 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: hardest position to find. I think with Green Bay when 521 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers surveys the landscape and let us he just 522 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: wants to leave and get out of Green Bay. There's 523 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: not another team to provise him with a better opportunity 524 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: to win the championship than the Packers. And so that's 525 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: what where we have to figure out what in with 526 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers real motivation behind all of the soap opera 527 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: drama that we had to endure over the last I 528 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: don't know year and some change. I think it's best 529 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: bead is the end up in Green Bay. But if 530 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: one were gon move, I think Aaron Rods would be 531 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: the one to move, even though I don't expect it 532 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: that all right, well we but you we know the 533 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: rumors are gonna be there, right These guys have I mean, 534 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: we have things that we have to talk about, so 535 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: they'll of course both be prominently mentioned. And I'm I'm 536 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: looking forward to see who else pops up now as 537 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: far as the playoffs, but I got a couple of 538 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: minutes left with you, So as far as the playoffs here, 539 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: I know you've made all your predictions on NFL Network 540 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: and NFL dot Com and all that, but if you 541 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: could only pick one team and and and only one 542 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: team to win the Super Bowl out of all you know, 543 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: the teams in the playoffs. Who who would it be? 544 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Would it be the Packers? Who would Who would be 545 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: your team that you would take in front of everyone 546 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: else in the postseason. I'll do it kan City Chiefs. 547 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I would go to kan City Chiefs because, um, They're 548 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: going to three straight NFC title games, back to back 549 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. They have a young quarterback who pay, They're 550 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: getting hot at any time. The defense is still a 551 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: sore spot and a problem. But they played better, Melvin 552 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Engl moving Chris Jones inside. They just played good enough 553 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: to be able to get it done. And when I 554 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: look at their path in the a f C, I 555 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: think they absolutely gonna beat in. I think they're gonna 556 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: have a chance to go to the SC Championshire Game 557 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: and all they have to do is winn it uh 558 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: to get in. I'll take my chance to g the 559 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs in mescenario. I got you, all right. And as 560 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: far as Matthew staff I I happen to have a 561 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: thing for the Rams and Stafford has been He's been good. 562 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: He's been better than Jared Goff was with the Rams. 563 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: He's made a lot of um awkward mistakes, shall we 564 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: as the season's gone on here, but we do I 565 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: don't know which quarterbacks gonna show up from from series 566 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: the series with him, he's he's been really good at times. 567 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: I think he set the Rams record for passing yards. 568 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: Which guy do you think shows up in the playoff 569 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: game on on Monday night on wild card weekend? Which 570 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford? Do we get well? But there's a lot 571 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: of pressure on Matthew Staffords to perform, and he hasn't 572 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: performed well of late. He's been bidden by the turn 573 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: of the books. I think we end up saying a 574 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: good version of Matthew Stafford because I believe Sean McVeigh 575 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: is going to run the football, and as long as 576 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: they run the football with Cam Makers and Tony Michelle, 577 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: this team would be good. Odebec and Jr. And Cooper 578 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: cup Vanta Jefferson are good enough to win on the outside. 579 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: If they're able to just to play a control game, 580 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: I think Matthew Stafford will have success. I think he 581 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: advanced is and I think you'll see him have a 582 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: chance to play go in the postseason. Now looking around 583 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: some of the other matchups, the one that intrigues me 584 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the forty Niners. Now, maybe it's just 585 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: because the forty Niners have punched the Rams a couple 586 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: of times and played very physical, But if they can 587 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: play like that against the Cowboys, to me, Dallas, they 588 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: have to prove they're not a bunch of show ponies. 589 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: The Cowboys like. I just my my my impression of 590 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys is they're they're not the toughest team, and 591 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: in forty Niners strike me the way they played the 592 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: second half of the season as a physical team. Is 593 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: that a dangerous spot for the Cowboys against a team 594 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: their favored to beat in the forty Niners. There at home, 595 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: They've gotten everything seemingly in their favor here. But I 596 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: look at that game, I think the forty Niners are 597 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: are dangerous. Am I wrong in looking at it like that? No, 598 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: they're a dangerous They're dangers because they are a physical 599 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: team and they can't run the ball, and when you 600 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: can run the ball, you can even frold the game. 601 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: I think I would normally say, like, hey, take the sheet, 602 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: pick take the Niners. But because everyone has talked about 603 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: the Niners has pumped them up and build them up 604 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: to be. I think the Cowboys are going to come 605 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: out and play probably one of the best games. I 606 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: think they would Matt and exceed the physicality. And if 607 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: this game becomes a Jimmy Garoppolo game, all of the 608 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: advantages go towards the Dallas Cowboys because Jimmy Garoppolo has 609 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: proven to be a turner with machine when you have 610 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: to put too much on him. I think this is 611 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: a tough game in the first half, but I think 612 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: the Cowboys eventually pull away from got You, got You? 613 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: And just to wrap up here, Bucky is uh and 614 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: I do thank you for spending some some time with 615 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: this year. What what happens in Tennessee? Does Derrick Henry 616 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: walked back through that door as like Superman and the 617 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: Titans are back to where they were when they were 618 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: winning all those games and they were the top team. 619 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: I know they're the number one seed in the a 620 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: f c Uh. How does that play out in Tennessee? Well, 621 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: I think they're even more dangerous now with Derrick Henry 622 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: coming back because the Titans discovered that they could see 623 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: it around the wall without Derrick Henry. The foreman gave 624 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: him a good Booth and when you look at the 625 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: number uh rushing yards while they were averaging about the 626 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: same as they were with Derrick Henry. So now you 627 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: have two big backs Derrick Henry Deanta Foreman, they can 628 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: just line up and hit you with a bunch of 629 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: body blows over the course of the game. I think 630 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: the Titans might be more danger is now than ever 631 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: because they found a backup that is a capable backup 632 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: to really make it a rotation situation in Tennessee as 633 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: the post and just a one man show that Gary 634 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: Kenny doing everything well. And of course is this all 635 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: for not all of this playoff talk? Is it just 636 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna be another Tom Brady run to the playoffs? Is 637 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: is there any he's got the pixie dust this time 638 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: of the year, right, Bucky? I mean, there's no stopping 639 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: this guy. This Tom Brad's out of controls. He's in 640 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: his mid forties. Now, Buckey, you're not supposed to be 641 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: playing like that, your mid forties crazy now, You're not 642 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: supposed to play at the level that he's playing. Get 643 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: I do worry because this team is not quite as 644 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: good as they were moving Chris Good when ab kind 645 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: of falling off the rails hurt their offense and defensively, 646 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: they haven't played at the same level that they played 647 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: their last year when they got hot in the postseason. 648 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: We'll see if it picks up the Lavante, Dave and 649 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Shack Barry coming back, but it'll be tough for a 650 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: lot tougher for John Brady to pull it off this 651 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: year as opposed to last year. Got you, hey, Bucky, 652 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate you doing this and uh, you know, 653 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: we'll see it somewhere down the line. Fox Sports Radio 654 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: and continued domination at the NFL Network. Thank you, Bucky. 655 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate your good