1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: What's up you guys. It's Eric and Mila and guess what. 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: We're having a live show Atlanta and it's coming up 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: rather rapidly. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: So quick, y'all, and we are so excited. Make sure 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: you get those tickets. Book those babysitters, come out, have 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: a drink, laugh, connect. We have some dope ass guests coming. 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: We're really excited. We have Shenisia from Black Mom's Blog. 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: We have Lauren Williams from Real Housewives of Atlanta. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: So come through to bq E Lounge. 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 3: Also Danielle from Marriage and Martini's podcast. 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: We'll be joining us, so be sure to come kick it. 12 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing you. 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: Our gift bags, our VIP bags are really popping. There's 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: a lot of shit up in there and every ready 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 3: to connect. 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: You can buy tickets on our Instagram at Good Mom's Underscore, 17 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Bad Choices and all your friends. 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Hi, welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices America. And 19 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: I'm Nila and it's Wednesday, y'all. 20 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Hey, Happy Wednesday. I hope you guys are having a 21 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: good week so far, setting those intentions, conquering your goals, 22 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: staying positive, putting yourself first, Like we talked about two 23 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: episodes ago, drink water, considering yourself, because that's the most 24 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: important thing you can do. We have a very special 25 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: guest here today. I'm really excited. You know us good moms. 26 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: We love to creep into a DM. 27 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: We're a professional DM creeper and sometimes we're successful a 28 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: lot of times called consistency. 29 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: We have the beautiful, talented mama Melanie Fiona. Thank you 30 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: for joining us today. Thanks for shooting your shot. I 31 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I'm so happy to find out that you 32 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: live in the valley too. You know, we valley girls 33 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: over here. Ally, girls, how are you doing today? I'm good. 34 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm good to feel happy speaking of intentions, speaking about 35 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: a week, It's been a good one thus far. I 36 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: feel like the energy is really good. I feel like 37 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: the synergy is also really good. That's why we're here. 38 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: But it's awesome. I'm happy to be here. I happen 39 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: to meet you girls and be talking about the things 40 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: that we've already been talking. I mean that we should 41 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: have been rolling this whole time, from the moment I 42 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: walked through the door. 43 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: We're like and me too. 44 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like we already kind of know each 45 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: other friends. 46 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 2: We've already invited to a dinner party. Firm check check. 47 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Actually we haven't met. 48 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: Melanie and I have a mutual friend, so we've been 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: on my radar for a long time. 50 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: To stop. 51 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: But I'm like, let me give her. I'm gonna chill 52 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: so I won't reflect poorly on Chavon. 53 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: Shout out to Chavon Chevan she was. I was like, 54 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: why don't you ask your friend? She's like, okay, well 55 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm not all right. I don't worry. I'll do it myself. 56 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: I'll do it in a non creepy way. So soon 57 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: as she said something on chance, I'm like, oh, perfect timing. Hello. 58 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: So and usually when I have friends of another friend, 59 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: even if we've never met, like, oh, we'll guess about 60 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: now we're friends friendly? Yeah, friends by association exactly. 61 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Typically it's guilty by association. We'll take friends by associations better. 62 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: So you have a son, I do tell us how 63 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: old he is he is in this life three and 64 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: a half, because lord knows, this is not his first lifetime. 65 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: He's wonderful. His name is Cameron, and he is magical. 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I know every parent says that about their kid, 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: but he's really special. Cameron has just this like extremely 68 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: positive outlook on life. 69 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: It's almost too innocent for this planet. 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of that, but like I actually have 71 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: deep fears of having to kill someone to protect that 72 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: magic that he has, because you know it, like you know, 73 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: when it can be. People don't always celebrate your magic. 74 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: They don't always celebrate your light. Some people feel threatened 75 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: by it. And he just sees the world for everything 76 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: that's positive. And I want to keep that in him 77 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: as long as possible. 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: And so he's great. He's a Piscey's He's born on. 79 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: Pie Day, water signs in the house, water signs, and he. 80 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Is the best and worst parts of me and his dad. 81 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: You sure you see that. It's like, oh my god, 82 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: you're so awesome. You're just like me. And you're just like, 83 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: oh my god that I hate that about you and 84 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: that's just like me. 85 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: So kids, you know, they shall But he's great. He 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: just started school. 88 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: We got past meltdowns because we were crying every day. Oh, 89 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: both of us were all crying. Oh yeah, but. 90 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: Now he's he made a friend apparently, so we're oh, 91 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: you mean the melt does in school? Oh? Yeah, oh yeah, 92 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: like dog live me like just oh my god, I know. 93 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, and it's like I love you, but I 94 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: have to go and I need these five hours to 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: do something. 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: With my life. So you know, it's it's it's been good. 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: It's been a good adjustment, I think for both of 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: us to find our independence again. 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: So but he's awesome, great kid, that's awesome. I know. 100 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: Going when I restarted school, it was like like she 101 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: would like latch onto me. It was like I was 102 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: like I felt I left crying. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, 103 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: am I doing the wrong thing? Like is it too soon? 104 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: Like what's going on a weekend? He there was. 105 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: It was last Thursday and this was after Mega meltdown. 106 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: On Wednesday. Thursday. 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: We woke up and I was getting him ready, like 108 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: getting lunch and breakfast and everything, and he just looked 109 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: at me and I was like, okay, he's like, where 110 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: are we going? 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: I was like, we had to go to school and 112 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: he just said no, thank you, mommy, And I said, 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: I said no, thank you. He says, he says, I 114 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: just want to stay here with you and rest. 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: He went upstairs and went into my bed and laid 116 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: there with me for an hour and Cameron is off 117 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: the wall energy, So for him to lay still with 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: me for an hour, I was like, oh, he's not 119 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: about this life today. 120 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: I was like, you need a mental health day. 121 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna stay home, and he said, we'll go to 122 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: school tomorrow, and he did. He held the end of 123 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: the bargain, went to school, and that was the first 124 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: day he didn't cry. So I was like, you know what, 125 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you just gotta be like, it's not that serious. 126 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna go to school for the rest of your life. 127 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: You don't feel like going today, Cool, I don't feel 128 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: like going today either. 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: Right, Cool? 130 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 5: I don't feel like this. 131 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: A lot of times I'm like, you know, I don't 132 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: feel like doing life. No, yeah, I'm just gonna call 133 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: it off. I don't feel like being home today. I 134 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: don't get to do that. 135 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: No, that is the one thing you don't get to say. 136 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: No what to me? 137 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: Absolutely twenty four Sathin forever, even when they're not in 138 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: your presence. Did you always want kids? 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 5: Yes? 140 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: I did. 141 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: I didn't know what motherhood actually looked like for me. 142 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: I just knew I wanted to have kids. And then 143 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: when Cam came, I was like, check I felt completely satisfied, 144 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: I felt completely planned. 145 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: He was manifested. 146 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: Okay, we were just talking about the idea of looking 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: forward to having children based off of what we had 148 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: been through the place in our relationship which we had 149 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: gotten to and just feeling like wow, like we've come 150 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: so far, Like it's gonna be awesome to have a 151 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: family with you. 152 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: One day and then one day became three weeks later. Oh, 153 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, that's what happened. 154 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: When had those of conversations and no, I mean, I 155 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: can't even tell you. There was a series of things 156 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: that happened leading up to that. 157 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: That was one. 158 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: The second thing that happened was some relative of his, 159 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure like put a put a like curse, 160 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: but not a bad curse, like she she just hext 161 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: me into pregnancy. And then and then my brother, actually 162 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: he's older than me, seven years older than me. I 163 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: went home to visit and he just started talking about, uh, 164 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: freezing my eggs, and I was like, and I was like, 165 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: I've never heard her man bring up an egg free 166 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: My brother loved love you to death. How I will 167 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: never forget though I looked at him, I'm like, I'm 168 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: not old. 169 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm in my I was in my early thirties. 170 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: I was like thirty one, and I was like, why 171 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: would you tell me that I need to freeze my eggs? 172 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: He's like, well, you. 173 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Know, I just know you're really about your career and 174 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I would hate for you to get too far along, 175 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: Like I have so many female colleagues that are in 176 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: their late thirties thinking about having kids and they're experiencing complications, 177 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: and I know you wanted all. 178 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: He was like, look at it like insurance for your house. 179 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: And my brother's very rational, okay, Like I'm very emotional 180 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: and spiritual, and he is facts on like rationality. 181 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm not old, why are you 182 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: bringing this to me like this? 183 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 1: And then I started to be like, well, if I 184 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: can't get pregnant, so I book an appointment two weeks 185 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: later to go to the doctor to make sure everything's okay. 186 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: When I went to that appointment, I was already pregnant. 187 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you found out. No, I found out 188 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: on my birthday two weeks later. So I got pregnant 189 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of June. I was probably two days 190 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: pregnant when I went for my checkup to be like so, 191 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, just thinking about family planning. She's like, everything 192 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: is fine. I think when you're ready, it'll be good. 193 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: I was like, well, can we just talk about what 194 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: are some options. He's like, we'll talk about whatever you want, 195 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you. 196 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: You're probably be fine. 197 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: Oh I was good. I was already pregnant more than yeah. 198 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: So but here he is now a blessing, a blessing. 199 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: It's so funny. I feel like, that's I don't know 200 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: your brother, lol. 201 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 2: Know he's in Toronto, okay, because I. 202 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: Was such a la right, I am my friends with 203 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: thirty one like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. 204 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, go freezer. E Yes. 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: I had this guy that I used to date. He 206 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: was telling we went out and he was like, you know, 207 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: I won't date anyone under over thirty thirty years old. 208 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: And over I was thirty one, thirty one, Well, thirty 209 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: thirty one. 210 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: He think I won't date anyone over thirty one because 211 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, the likelihood of pregnancy, just like diminishes. 212 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know that was one of his reasons. 213 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: First, yes, I can't, And I'm like, I'm like, what 214 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing dating me? Waste my goddamn time, Like, 215 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: clearly I'm fertile because I already have produced. 216 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, what have you done? 217 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: And I they thought, I was like, what kind of 218 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: weird funck shit is this that are like? Are this 219 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: information getting implanted in these men's brains? I'm like, no, no, 220 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: it just we've been made to believe that. I have 221 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: a girlfriend who's forty and just had her first kid, 222 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 1: completely natural, the most amazing birth story and pregnancy I've 223 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: ever heard, and she's living her best life. And she 224 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: didn't know she was gonna be able to have kids 225 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: because she was under this impression that forty that ship 226 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: is sailed. She's doing it just fine. Just listen for 227 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: all intentsive purposes, whether you want children or not. Just 228 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: be good to your health and your body the end. 229 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it's that easy for everyone, however, 230 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: don't allow the I mean, you heard the stories of 231 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: women who are trying so hard to get pregnant. They're 232 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: timing it, they're doing it, and as soon as they 233 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: stop trying it, they get pregnant. Because we literally can 234 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: psych ourselves out, so like you just have to surrender 235 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: to the idea of what will be for you. It's 236 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: gonna be what's gonna be for you. 237 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: I just feel like there's like literally mind over matter, 238 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: like what you say it is, it is, and your 239 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: body believes it. 240 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: You know. 241 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: I think that's basically what that is. I'm not true. 242 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 6: I mean, I know people struggle and have problems, but 243 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: you know, I think for the most part, yeah, like like, 244 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 6: of course there's absolutely medical conditions and things that can 245 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 6: you know, affect a woman's success rate as far as 246 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 6: getting pregnant. 247 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: You know, some women have to have like medical intervention. 248 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: But I mean for the most part, I feel like 249 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot of stories of women who were health is 250 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: like not an issue, it's your mind, right, you're so 251 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: stressed out with this thing, just have. 252 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: To it has to happen now. And then also you 253 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: just take the fun out of the. 254 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Sex, right, Like I know husbands that are just like, 255 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, like she's calling me because I have 256 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: to like, you know, we have to have sex, and 257 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: I have to come by ten thirty six pm because 258 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: her temperature is at it and it's just like can't 259 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: you this house sex and have fun? And then I 260 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: mean that's not how it happened for. 261 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: Me all the fun, literally all the fun, you're your 262 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: peak fun. 263 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Okay, it's literally That's when I got pregnant education not 264 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: trying to. I was one of these people that felt 265 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: like I couldn't get pregnant because me and my my 266 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 1: dude at the time, at the time forever no longer, 267 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: but forever, we had been having unprotected, really unprotected, really 268 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: irresponsible sex. First this second years, six years, yes, and 269 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: nothing happened. And then the moment we go on a 270 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: little vacation and we're not really together anymore. 271 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: That happened. 272 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: The universe was like, oh, y'all go be car Jamaica 273 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: and drinking too much rum and punch, and it was like, 274 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: oh no, we're gonna put put that little baby in 275 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: there real quick. It was Jared's It was Jared's birthday, 276 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: I know because it was like a week and we 277 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: just had like celebration and after celebration, and his birthday 278 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: is two weeks before mine. 279 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: So then when I found out I was actually pregnant 280 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: two weeks later, I. 281 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: Was like, oh my gosh, is it. After I was like, wait, 282 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: I don't get to turn up. I was so pissed 283 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: because it was like melas for his birthday. We were 284 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: doing all the things, drinking, hanging out, I was, I 285 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: was eating you know, they saying I supposed eat sushi. 286 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: I had a week full of like sushi while I 287 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: was first pregnant. Yes, they just you know, all these things, 288 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, then my birthday came around, but 289 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: now I had known, so like it's like, oh, I 290 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: have to think twice about what I'm getting ready to 291 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: do right now when I'm pregnant, and then no one knew, 292 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. I just like I think the 293 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: day after my birthday, I spent the whole day crying, 294 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: like I was like everything is gonna change. 295 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: We were supposed to go to Amsterdam and now I 296 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: can't go, Like. 297 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, yeah, people talk about that enough, 298 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: Like once you find out you're pregnant, ain't no two 299 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 3: week noticed, No, you don't get a two week like, 300 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: let me party really hard and then I can like 301 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: give it up for nine months. 302 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: It's none of that. It's just like boom boom. 303 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: And then you have to really realize like, oh shit, 304 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: my life is about. 305 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: To really really really change and my body and nine 306 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: months is really not. 307 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: Enough time to prepare for the change that's about to happen, 308 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: Like you know what's about to happen, But nine months 309 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: is not enough time to be like you've lived alone, 310 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: independent life until now. 311 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: Now here's the second person. 312 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 5: Bye. 313 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: I can't care of it. Don't let it die. I 314 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: still can't get myself anywhere on time. I just trying 315 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: to get a child together. Oh my god, all right, 316 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: I don't even know girl. 317 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: You guys have daughters, so I don't even know because 318 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I do not brush this hair, and I don't know 319 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: if I. 320 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: Had to brush another hair, it just wouldn't have it. 321 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: I'm just so glad we just take those clippers to 322 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Can's hair, just like, all right, you cut it yourself. 323 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 2: No, okay, his dad has but Pete takes them. 324 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: That's their thing. But I just am like, I don't 325 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: know if that's why I know. God was like, you're 326 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: not really ready for another girl in the house. You 327 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: don't brush your own hair, it's not going to give 328 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: you more hair to deal with in my house. Like 329 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: someone's hair gets sacrificed hair. 330 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, scarf because we're not both gonna have a hairstyle. 331 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: And if you don't have a hairstyle, I'm look like 332 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: a bad mom, so I gotta do your. 333 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Hair, so you mom for myself. 334 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: How so when you did get pregnant and you guys 335 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: were talking about having a family, how long had you 336 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: guys been dating up to that point? 337 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: At that point, it was, uh, it was like when 338 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: was that? 339 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: I know it was after a six month break. Oh 340 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: so you guys you got pregnant. 341 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: Kind of so we. 342 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: Were together, like we were dating for a year. 343 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: We separated for six months on some like you need 344 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: to really figure out what. 345 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: It is that you want for your life. 346 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: And I know what I want for my life and 347 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to like settle for anything less. 348 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: And it was a really needed thing. 349 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I think like for me, before 350 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: I had done, you know, we've all kind of you 351 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: break up with somebody and then you kind of get 352 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: back with them and you know in the end is. 353 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: Never going to work out. It's like you just know. 354 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: So I was always like I'm not making any U turns, 355 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: That's what I called them. I was like, I'm not 356 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: making any U turns. I'm not doing it. And I 357 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: literally was like we are not going to talk, like 358 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: if we're over, and then he moved away, he moved 359 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: out of state, and I was like, you don't get 360 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: my friendship. 361 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk to you. 362 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't want us to engage in this like ongoing 363 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: saga where if you finally feel like you getting it 364 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: together and it's time for us, that I've I've encouraged that, 365 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: or I've like put any you know, planning any seeds, 366 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: like if you come back around, then I know it's 367 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: on your accord, on your terms, and like you're about 368 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: what you want. And so we had like six month 369 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: break and then once we got back together. I mean 370 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: when we got back together, it was on like there 371 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: was no uncertainty, there was none of that. 372 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: And six months later I was pregnant. 373 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: Wow, like that, And I was like, but I also 374 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: know that from the beginning of how we first began, 375 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: I always knew there was something there. 376 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: And being the type of person that. 377 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: I am and doing all the things, I know there's 378 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: past life history. I know that he is my mirror. 379 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: And so when I got pregnant with Cam and then 380 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: I had Cam, everything kind of all was like, oh, 381 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: this is about Cam, this was about him, this person coming, this. 382 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: Person coming in. 383 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Because as soon as we got back together, it was 384 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: like bink and I was like, oh, okay, right, Like 385 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: this little angel was floating around. We'd be like, can 386 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: y'all get it together. I've been waiting for this for years. 387 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: That's beautiful and so it's nice. So now it's been 388 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: six years we've been together. We got a whole family, 389 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: and it's wonderful. You mentioned that when you got pregnant, 390 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, you were like you had fear, and I'm sure, 391 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: like that's natural, but also because of your I'm assuming 392 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: because of your career as well, like what how did 393 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: you how did you feel that would affect your career? 394 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: Did it affect your career? And like what were were 395 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: you hiding your pregnancy for a while before or were 396 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: you I'm really curious, like the people tell you you should, 397 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: because I feel like that happens a lot of times 398 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: in so Actually. 399 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: No one told me I should. 400 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: My manager at the time was a woman, and she's 401 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: a mother, and she was very supportive. I was actually 402 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: terrified to even tell her because I hadn't processed the 403 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: feelings and I was afraid about like what it would 404 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: mean business wise, and she was just like, girl, put 405 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: that baby in a backpack and take it on the 406 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: tour bus, like, don't even trip. But I do know 407 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: that there were people around us that literally like, oh, 408 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: because of this narrative that has been created for women 409 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: in business in general, and then especially in the music industry, 410 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: where your physical appearance is everything to you, it's like, oh, 411 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: her next. 412 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: Getting a little fat, you can't really shoot that music video. 413 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: We're going to need to elongate the lens thanks, you know, 414 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: and people, for some reason look at pregnant women in 415 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: the public eye. This perception, this narrative has been until 416 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: more recently has been like it's over for you, Like, Oh, 417 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: you just gonna have to sit down, Like you're not 418 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do all of it, You're not 419 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: gonna be as desirable. 420 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna immediately just like abandon your career because you're 421 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: a mom. And these are these narratives that people like 422 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: they put on you. 423 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: And then this subconscious fear creeps in And I started 424 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: showing very early, and I was like, whoa, whoa who 425 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: who so much change? How do I even present this? 426 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: What does this mean? I don't even have a plan together, 427 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: like what does this look like for me? And I 428 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: had just started working with a new label, and how 429 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: were they going to treat me? And I saw how 430 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: that happened as well, which was not favorable. 431 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 2: It appeared to be favorable, but it wasn't. It was like, oh, 432 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: it's fine. 433 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: It was like it's great, but then all yeah, yeah, 434 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: and then close the door and then start whispering, and 435 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: then it's just like we. 436 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Haven't heard what we haven't called me back. 437 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: They haven't called back, and yeah, and now it's and 438 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: now it's it's again. You just become less desirable to 439 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: people who have that narrative in their head and who 440 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: work in that and have allowed to be and so 441 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's disappointing, but it just kind of 442 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: charges I think what has created what we're doing, and 443 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: it's creating a narrative for the motherhood's space that's like, yeah, no, 444 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm not dead because I'm a mother, Like it's not 445 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: over sick or sick or like's not a disability. My 446 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: mom has always told me that pregnancy is a sign 447 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: of health, like it is that means your body is healthy, 448 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: that means that you are more capable than most actually, 449 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful that she shared that with me 450 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: and during pregnancy. That's probably why I gained seventy pounds, but. 451 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm healthy. Nobody showed that. 452 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: But I mean even like, like like you said, like 453 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: right now that that that idea is kind of started 454 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: to change with like celebrities like Cardi B having a 455 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: baby and bring her baby everywhere and seeing women. I 456 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: do feel like though there's still an immense pressure on 457 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: women that are that are trying to change that narrative. 458 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: Because even I watched her and she didn't really ever 459 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: take a break, because I feel like she felt like 460 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: she really couldn't. She wanted to prove that she could 461 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: do it all right, but she didn't feel comfortable taking 462 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: a break, and she might not have been able to honestly. 463 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: But I mean this maybe this is how it starts. 464 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, you she show that I'm capable, I'm capable, 465 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: and then you have the you have more space to 466 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I can take time. But I really 467 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: felt bad for her because I was I felt so 468 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: she when I watched some like her music feels when 469 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: she was pregnant, I felt so empowered watching that, But 470 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: then I also felt like, damn this, she. 471 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: Didn't really take a break. She really did it. 472 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like and I feel like it's so it's so 473 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: interesting how that how it's like changing but it's not 474 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: really changing. 475 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: So you know, I actually did. 476 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: A video post about this on my YouTube channel where 477 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: I talked about it. 478 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: I get called it why you me and Carti b. 479 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Deserve to celebrate our pregnancies because I remember being in 480 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: I was I was in a music industry space. I 481 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: think I was on tour or something, and I was 482 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: around some guys who were talking about Carti and it 483 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: came on the radio and they were just like, oh, yeah, man, 484 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: if she's really pregnant, this is when people were respeculating 485 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: and they're like, she's really pregnant, man, that would be 486 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: this dumbest move of her career. And I just was 487 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: in the backseat like sending flames a fire at them, 488 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: like the fuck are you talking about? 489 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: It's over for her? 490 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Like well she has, she's just at the at the 491 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: beginning of her career, like this would just why, like 492 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: why nobody. 493 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: Is going to celebrate the fact that she's a Cinderella story. 494 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: Nobody's celebrating the fact that she's had more success than 495 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: she's ever had in her life right now. 496 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: She's in a relationship, she's made making more money. 497 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't this be an opportune time for her to 498 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: have everything she's wanted for herself. And why should she 499 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: have to question that or hide that because of your 500 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: stereotypical beliefs of like what she's capable of with. 501 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: You not having a vagina, but. 502 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: Thank you, okay, with you not having a vagina and no, 503 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: And I hate it when men comments on what it 504 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: can possibly You have no idea what it is to 505 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: wake up every single day and your body is completely 506 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: every single day the outfit. 507 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: That you plan to wear, and it ain't happening. 508 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: And if you're trying to conceal and have any sort 509 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: of privacy to yourself, oh we got to change it. 510 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: Oh we gotta cover. I'll never forget I was going 511 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: to an event and can't. As soon as I told 512 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: my family that I was having that I was pregnant, It's. 513 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: Like Kim was just like, grow a little more. 514 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, like, celebrate me more, because the more love 515 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: I get, the bigger I get. And I remember I 516 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: was supposed to go to this event in New York 517 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: with xnic Coole and I shout out to Nicole and 518 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: she was launching Exonic Cole and I remember I was 519 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: going there and I the outfit I had. 520 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: I mean, there was no hiding it. 521 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: But I was not ready, especially in immedia outlet space, 522 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, still, I'm starting my baby bump tonight. 523 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: I just wasn't even ready, Like I didn't even like 524 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: nobody even knew I was in a relationship, Like my 525 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: life was so about music in my career, sharing that 526 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: personal side. 527 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 2: And I remember I got this big poncho and I 528 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: put it on over. 529 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: Top, and I remember being like, oh my god, where 530 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: is everyone gonna say? And I just was like looking back, 531 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: being like who cares what anybody would have said? Like 532 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: I should have just been like yeah and say something. 533 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: You know, so even for someone like Cardi, and that 534 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: time is so precious, like you know, like we think 535 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: nine months that's a long time, but it's really not. 536 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: And I feel like something I would never do again 537 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: if I ever got pregnant again, is to shame myself 538 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: into thinking that I can't express that openly because of 539 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: industry standards of what other people might think. And you know, 540 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: I hope for Cardi's sake, that she never looks back 541 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: and has to feel like I, you know, I missed 542 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: out on anything, you know, because she was she was 543 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: sick and pregnant in the studio, being up all night. 544 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 2: I felt so I felt. 545 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, she really did represent how strong 546 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: we are as women. 547 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: But you shouldn't have to be that, shouldn't have to 548 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: be strong. 549 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: You should already know and you should honor it, and 550 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: you should like honor everybody's decision to over the fuck 551 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: they want. Absolutely, it's crazy, how just talking about your 552 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: experience in the music industry, it's such a microcosm of 553 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: just like how women are viewed period. It was just 554 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: you're either this or that. Can't be a career woman 555 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: and be a mom and be dating and be not 556 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: like you even mentioned like the people DENI was in 557 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: a relationship, Like. 558 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: Who the fuck cares? That is nobody's business. 559 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: Who your baby daddy is, where he at if you 560 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: didn't buy yourself. But there's so many things that go 561 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: into like just being a woman period. I was telling 562 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: Erica I was watching the documentary on Netflix this morning 563 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: about AOC. 564 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: I love her. I was texting her like I'm crying. 565 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: She like it just it was. 566 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: It was like eight am. The Girl, you have to 567 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: watch it. I was like, I'm going back to bed. 568 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 2: When we had a morning call, I was like, I'm out. 569 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: My dad comes like you should watch this is really good, 570 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 3: and that's my dad, Like he's always made I've been 571 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: watching documentaries since I'm five. Yes, so you turn it 572 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: on and I started watching it, and I just like, 573 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: was just so inspired. 574 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: And then I had these thoughts. Literally my thoughts were like, 575 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: I want to change the world. 576 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: And then I was like, I'm ever gonna be able 577 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: change the wrong and I look so much in my 578 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: business on the internet. 579 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: They're gonna find so many nipple pictures on faces hilarious. 580 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: And then but it brings us back to this conversation 581 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 3: where there's this expectation. 582 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: To be like this one dimensional type of woman. 583 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: If you're a singer, you have to be beautiful and 584 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: have a bang and body, and you have to have 585 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: one flowing hair, and you have to dress. 586 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: Like this and show a little cleavage. If you're a politician, 587 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: you better wear those car purls. You better be girl. 588 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: Take off that red lipstick a right bye bye. You 589 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: can't you can't be working at a be a waitress 590 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: and then be this, you know. 591 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: I'm like, there's this is like as women where in 592 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: this box to like, if you want to be this, 593 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: you got to be just like this. 594 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 2: And it's so stupid because men have. 595 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: Made these these strange, weird boxes we're supposed to fit in, 596 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: and in reality, that's not real. And it's just like 597 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: your experiences with pregnancy, just with motherhood. I'm so happy, Like, 598 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: obviously we're not gonna be politicians, but it doesn't change 599 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: says right, But it doesn't change that we are still 600 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: changing things. 601 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: We're still changing a narrative. We're here on this platform 602 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: to say fuck that it's not happening. 603 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: You know, I am a sexual being and I am 604 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: a mother, and I am intelligent and I can be 605 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 3: all of those things. 606 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: And I don't owe anybody shit to be like I. 607 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: You know, if I showed a nipple, you know, on Facebook, 608 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: then I'm not I'm not smart, you know. And it's 609 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 3: just like it's crazy that it's taken this long to 610 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: even feel this empowered. And even this morning I felt 611 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 3: I literally text Erica, we can never be in politics. 612 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: But your soul is probably too pure for politics. And 613 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: it's true it really is true. I'm happy that AOC 614 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 2: can do it because I can't. But doesn't mean that 615 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: we're not. 616 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 3: We won't be able to change a narrative or change 617 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: somebody's mind or inspired. 618 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: But what you are, you have daughters, you're changing their already, Right, 619 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: we're changing narrative already, and like that's the greatest thing 620 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: we can be as as women is examples right for 621 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: the next generation. I mean, I don't have a daughter, 622 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: but I have a son, so I need him to 623 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: understand what it is to see a woman doing. 624 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: It all your pallless. 625 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to say more important, but it's very crucial. 626 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Even it's so crucial because men, you know, have so 627 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: for so long been the narrators of you know, limen 628 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: and women in one power feud. And I think mothers 629 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: have such a responsibility. Who have sons to really change that? Yeah? 630 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: True? 631 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and fathers too, Yeah, and fathers. I definitely want 632 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: my son to seem like as hard as it is 633 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: to miss his first day of school, which I had 634 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: to because I was in Atlanta working, I also know 635 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: that I can't project my guilt on him as to 636 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: what I think I should or shouldn't be doing or 637 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: what makes me a good mom or like I've literally 638 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: been with him more than most moms get to who work, 639 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: and I take him with me to work, we travel 640 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I miss that day. And yes, it's 641 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: harder on me than I think it will be. Young yim, 642 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: he's not going to remember, but I want him to 643 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: know that your mom had to go do what she's 644 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: got to do, and my mom going to. 645 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: Do what she has to do. 646 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: I understand that makes her whole and I understand that 647 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: makes her fulfilled and be a better mom for me, 648 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: and so you know, it's it's very important. I think 649 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 1: that we always have to try to work to maintain 650 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: sense of self for our children to see that, because 651 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: I can honestly see that I have to unlearn some 652 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 1: of the things that I've seen my mom do as 653 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: a mom and you know, you know, good better and 654 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: different whatever, just just knowing that they're watching everything. And 655 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: so it's like, if anything, I just want I think 656 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: kids should just be like my mom or dad is 657 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: authentically who they are are, and I understand that and 658 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: they stay true to themselves one dred percent of the 659 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: time and and being. 660 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: Authentic allows gives your trial permission to also be authentic. 661 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: And be who they are. 662 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: I see like these small moments in our in our 663 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: in our conversations, and I'm like, I can, I can. 664 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: I could say this or I could say that. And 665 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: today we were watching the documentary. I'm trying to make 666 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: her pay attention because she's fo she totally could follow 667 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: it right. And there was like a pride Pride celebration 668 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: and there's a drag queen and she's like, is that 669 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: a boy dress. 670 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: Like a girl. I don't remember when we went. 671 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: Don't you remember? 672 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: Girl was all we saw like a little person the 673 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: other day and she was like, I was like, don't. 674 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: And then we saw. 675 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 3: Someone they had like, uh, what's the Vita Lago or whatever? 676 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: So this is like a course of a week. So 677 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I keep telling you, like 678 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 2: everybody's different. 679 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: Everybody looks different, our bodies are different, every everybody has choices. 680 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: Everybody's different, and it's fine. 681 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 3: She's like, I was like, yeah, he said, yeah, that's 682 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 3: a drag queen. He likes to dress like sometimes guy. 683 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: The guys us to dress like girls sometimes at night, 684 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 3: sometimes for shows. Sometimes they don't feel like they belong 685 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 3: in their bodies and they want to be something different 686 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: and that's fine. 687 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: I think we're all different and they're still beautiful. And 688 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, if one mom, if I could say this 689 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 2: to like all the kids. 690 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's this vital these vital points, and 691 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 3: there's questions and these things come up. 692 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: How much could we change, like the world. 693 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing that we've we've historically been 694 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: made to think is that, like, children are children, and 695 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: they should know their place. But children are by far 696 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: far more developed than I think most people give them 697 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: credit for. And I see that in the way that 698 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I raise my child versus how I was raised, And 699 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: I explained to my child, and I have conversation and 700 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: I ask him questions, and I care about what he 701 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: thinks and how he feels about certain things, and I'm 702 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: willing to be transparent and honest for his benefit because 703 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: there is so much power in the. 704 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: Comprehension of being Like, No, I want to. 705 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: Empower you to come to your own conclusion and to 706 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: have your own thought process by just providing you with 707 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: the information and comfort, and that's all it is. 708 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: Like, I'm not trying to pass my judgment on you 709 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: or what you should believe. 710 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: In, unless it comes to racist shown as to picture people, 711 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: definitely let you know they're people. We don't need to 712 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: engage with those people. Yeah, So you know, it's important 713 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: that our our children are able to recognize that there's 714 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: no there's no norm, there's no standard of like how 715 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: people can look and be and just you just kind 716 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: of got to observe and then find your tribe and 717 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: just be like, oh, this is who I identify with 718 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: and this is who I don't And at the end, Yeah, 719 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think as a parent, it's you we're 720 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: always constantly learning. Like I'm constantly like I saw this, 721 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: it was like a meme or something the other day, 722 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Like how responsible is it as a parent for you 723 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: to say like because I said so? Like, that's an 724 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: opportunity and I think about it because I've said it. 725 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: They're not gonna up front like I never said because 726 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: I said so, Right, But but then there are all 727 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: times where it's like there's an opportunity there for you 728 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: to educate them or ask them like well, why is 729 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: it that you feel that way or why do you 730 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: think they do that? You know, impose the question so 731 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: that they can come to their own conclusion or educate 732 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: them and arm them with information so that they can 733 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: come to their own conclusions about things. And I'm just 734 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: so glad that we are having these conversations now because 735 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: I even think now, like I think, you know, having 736 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: this podcast and you know, thinking about like the way 737 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: my mother raised me, and she did the best she could, 738 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: but like, was she having these conversations. No, It's like 739 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: I just feel like parenting. I feel like kids are 740 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: smarter than ever. I think our generation of parents are 741 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: more are smarter than ever, and it's only going. 742 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: To get better. I'm hoping. I pray, I pray. 743 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I just feel like it's because we're actually 744 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: uncovering the layers of conditioning that we have been given 745 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: to believe have to exist. You know that narrative of 746 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: because I said so, you say that because you heard 747 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: it absolutely, so we can change that by I mean 748 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: I say it too. 749 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: But then after I also think about it like this now. 750 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: But my mom would say that to me because I said, 751 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: like I remember mind and be like, Mom, why can't 752 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I do this? 753 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: She said because I said so, And it never sat 754 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: with me. 755 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: I would always be like, but why, And then she'd 756 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: be like because Z like always had like a like 757 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: an answer back that was just no explanation. It's like, 758 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: if you don't want me going somewhere, explain to me 759 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: why why, Like I want to understand because there's danger 760 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: there that you're unaware of. Because I don't have a 761 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: good feeling about that person. I have concerns that you 762 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: are unaware of, like dot dot, I'm unable to pick 763 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: you up. I don't know bout bab bab, Like, just 764 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: give me something to go on, you know, let's have 765 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: a conversation about it. Absolutely, And I think that that's 766 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: super important amongst parents and children is constant communication. It's 767 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the key to every successful relationship in 768 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: any period, personal, sexual, professional, friendship, whatever. 769 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: Like, communication is key even with yourself. 770 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: And I think like empowering your kid to have an 771 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: opinion and to have the communication with your child empowers 772 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: to have communications with themselves and have opinions of like 773 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: themselves and not just so we have to explain to them, 774 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: but when they're around peers. Like, first of all, we're 775 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: in the age of the internet. I don't even know 776 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: what that means for a teenager. Okay, I saw euphoria. 777 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm scared of. 778 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: It's wonderful, but I'm scared as hell. They a beast, 779 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: so much of a ried, so scared. 780 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: But at least if we give them to empower them 781 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: to have their own opinion when other kids and people like, 782 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 3: first of all, we're really transparent parents. 783 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 2: We talk about like no secrets. 784 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: Because then you can better identify, like, ah, I'm not 785 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 3: fucking with Susie because Susie's. 786 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: Tripping and I have my own opinion and my mom 787 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: talked to me about this, and I'm not doing X, 788 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: Y and Z fantas. 789 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: These parents did and said because I said so instead 790 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: of being like, lollok, let me tell you what could happen. 791 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: You see the jay down there on the street. Let 792 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: me tell you he made it wrong. 793 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 3: Turn somewhere okay, because he listened to his homeboy and 794 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: his homeboy said so, there's like so much there's so 795 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: much power in being honest. 796 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: And I think, like, you know, people look at me. 797 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 3: Us a certain way because we talk about cannabis and 798 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 3: we talk transparently about our sex lives or dating. 799 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh, you talk about plants and sexuality like their natural 800 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: things that came from the earth and have begun. 801 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh oh crazy, so wrong, so crazy or such 802 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 3: crazy parents? 803 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: Yea, you know the way we all got here, by 804 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: the way, probably a little weed and sects involved, right 805 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: that art, you know? 806 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: So I think that is important. And then you have 807 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: you have empowered people that know themselves. 808 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 3: And I think even because I see my mom too, 809 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: and I see like she did the best that she could. 810 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 3: But I see like a child when I see her sometimes, 811 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: and that she didn't take she wasn't empowered to take 812 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,479 Speaker 3: the time to get to know herself and to heal 813 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 3: the ship that her parents said or that her parents 814 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 3: went through. 815 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: And to see this is where I'm at right now. 816 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: And she's fifty something years old and maybe still working 817 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 3: through that. And like now, I think it's such a norm. 818 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: Like I said, me and she mom, we were talking 819 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: on the phone. All we'd be talking, all we'd be 820 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: doing is therapies in each other thereah pies, thearrah. 821 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: Pis And and I'm like, so, what do you think 822 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: happened to you as a child? 823 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 3: Yes, and made you feel this way that you don't 824 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 3: feel like you love yourself or you deserve better. And 825 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 3: I said, because I've discovered you know, I'm healing from 826 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 3: when i was a child. These are conversations I'm having 827 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: with my homegirls all the time show and I'm like, 828 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 3: thank god, yeah, thank god. 829 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm thirty one and these are the conversations that we're having. 830 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: Yes, this shit is important well because our parents, who 831 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,439 Speaker 1: are in the fifties and sixties are still not having 832 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: these conversations. 833 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: Because it's scary. It's terrifying. 834 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: Now our parents are I mean even my own parents. 835 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: She's like, why are you put all your business on 836 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: the podcast? 837 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: Right? 838 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, wait, there's so many women that reach 839 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: out to us daily like thank you, thank you, And 840 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: now I know I'm not alone. And the reason we 841 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: started this podcast is because we felt alone. Yeah, you know, 842 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: and we are at a different age. I think we 843 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: our parents come from the time where it's like we 844 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: don't talk about that. 845 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: Everything secret, friends, what happened in this house? Oh my god, 846 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: everything is a secret. 847 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll be finding stuff out about my parents to 848 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: this day that I'm like, you just left that chapter 849 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: out of my whole life and I've known you. It's crazy. 850 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: It's it's like it isn't. I'm Caribbean, so it's very 851 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: cloak and dagger. Shush hush, because you're worried about what 852 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: so and so is going to say about you and 853 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: anti so and so and uncle so and so and. 854 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 2: Oh did you hear what happened? 855 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: Oh this? 856 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,959 Speaker 1: And it's just like, can we just stop caring about 857 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: what other people think? Like if you know me and 858 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: you know your child, like, let's just have the conversation. 859 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: I think that that's that's the thing. 860 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: And of course there's always a sense of pride and 861 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: protection as a parent naturally, but we have to identify 862 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: where that's coming from. Is it for our well being 863 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: or is it for the concern of what other people's 864 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: opinions are? And I think that that's something we're learning 865 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: to we're learning to unlearn with each generation. 866 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: That's what you said about getting better right right? 867 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: And I think when we when we allow ourselves to 868 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 3: listen to other people's opinion, we begin to believe those 869 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 3: opinions at that begins in childhood, you know, like oh, 870 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 3: she's fast, or she's this, or you know, Susie's shut 871 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: or she's. 872 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: Fat, right, you know, like that fat thing, the fat 873 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: and skinny thing. Because I really said. 874 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: That the other day, like oh, like she's fat, And. 875 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. 876 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: Were there already? Where did that come from? 877 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: Because like my mom growing up was so self body conscious, 878 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: and like I think growing up to being like being 879 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: an actor and modeling as a kid, I was just 880 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: so aware of my body. Also growing up in mostly 881 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: white schools and my body not looking like the white 882 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: young girls was very confusing for me. And then also 883 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: seeing my mom saying I'm fat, and she does it 884 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: to this day and I always tell them, like, Mom, 885 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: you have got to stop. Like that has whether or 886 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: not you know it or not, it's affected me. You know. 887 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: People always say, oh, if you're so confident, you're so confident, 888 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,479 Speaker 1: but no I am. But like, I'll just be quiet 889 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: about my my insecurities. Right, I'm just as insecure as 890 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: a lot of these motherfuckers out here. I've been looking 891 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: in the mirror, pulling on my stomach, touching my skin, 892 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: especially after having a baby. 893 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: Things have changed. And don't get me wrong, there's. 894 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: Been some change that I really do very much enjoy. Yeah, 895 00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm leible, I got it. 896 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 2: But then there's some things where I'm like, oh, that 897 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 2: skin on the lower Valley let's not going back. It's 898 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 2: not going back. There's not no collagen I can drink. 899 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: But I really try to be conscious about how I 900 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: talk about my body in front of my daughter. App Absolutely, 901 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: I think about this too, because especially living here in 902 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: LA and being in the industry that we're in, it's like, oh, 903 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: you don't like something, you gotta know, just go fix it. 904 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: You get fixed, You go to fix really really quick. 905 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: But it's just like if I were to do that 906 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: about everything that I did did not like about myself 907 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: and my child inherits genetically. 908 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 2: The the features, the DNA, the. 909 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: Characteristics, traits that are all there, and the non changeable yeah, 910 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: the non changeable things. And I'm they're telling them, you're fine. 911 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: You're like, it's fine, you're fine. The way you are 912 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: here beautiful. But I can't expect accept that narrative about myself. 913 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: There is a disconnect here already, and so I honestly 914 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: like I think about it too. We have to treat 915 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: ourselves like we would treat our children. We have to 916 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: be just as delicate, We have to and be just 917 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: as how much positivity and awareness and conscious thought do 918 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: I want to instill in my children. That's how I 919 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: have to practice for myself because they are watching and 920 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: our inner child is still listening, and we're out here 921 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: being like, oh well this is like mmm, I have 922 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: to be like, okay, maybe I'm not as happy with this, 923 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: but what can I do to feel good about it? Like? 924 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: How can what can I do? 925 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: Like within myself, because it's really the work in here, 926 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: Like it's not just like oh, let me go get 927 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: this nipped and tucked or change or bubblic again, not 928 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: judging anyone who does that, but you have to be 929 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: mindful of your child's If you're like, oh, my gosh, 930 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: I hate my nose. I'm going to fix my nose 931 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: and then your child gets that nose, what are you 932 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: telling your child by being like, oh, by the way, 933 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: that knows that I thought was hideous, you have it too, 934 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: Like this is. 935 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: What we're talking, Like it's cute on me, but it's 936 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 2: cute on you. I just hated it on me because 937 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 2: like you, I just gave it, you know what I mean? 938 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: Like, I just feel like we just need to be 939 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: so much more aware and like forgiving with ourselves and 940 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: and always my thing with when it comes to how 941 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: we view ourselves, especially after a baby is whatever you're 942 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: doing for yourself as far as changing your body, if 943 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: that's what you'd like to do, whatever, just make sure 944 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: you're doing it from a place of self love and 945 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: not a place of self hate, because that is where 946 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: we have the problem, and the gerratuating problem is like 947 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: do everything from self love, not self hate. Not that 948 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: you hate this, No, I love myself and I love 949 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: this part about myself too. 950 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: But I want to feel it this way, you know, 951 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: not oh my god, I hate it. 952 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: Is No, just like we have to take all of 953 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: that language out of ourselves and it's not easy. Like again, 954 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and I can't imagine in being being a 955 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: singer and being out there and so much pressure put 956 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: on really like I feel like in the music industry specifically, 957 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: like it's so much pressure because I mean, actors, I 958 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: feel like a boy, like there's a little more space 959 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: because we're playing roles and we're like we must be 960 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: we're relatable, but are like we're playing different roles so 961 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: we can kind of fluctuate where singers, you are who 962 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: you are all the time, and you're expected to be 963 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: a certain way all the time. And you know, we 964 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: talked before about you know how much weight we gained 965 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: in pregnancy. You know, I gained seventy pounds siny four. 966 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 967 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: And you know, I remember my doctor when I came 968 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: in one time, I think I had gained like around 969 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: fifty and she was like whoa this She literally was 970 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: like whoa And let me not get started on that girl. 971 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: That woman she hates her, yeah with her no but yeah, 972 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 2: and she kind of shamed me. 973 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was already a little depressed during my pregnancy. 974 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: Sometime I was just like, well, fuck it, I'm about 975 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: to go get this Ben and Jerry's I don't go. 976 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm going all you know in yeah, And it's just 977 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: like and then after pregnancy, all the pressure to lose 978 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: the weight, and like, how did how did you did? Well? 979 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: First of all, did you enjoy your pregnancy? I enjoyed 980 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: every single day. I enjoyed the glow of my. 981 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: Skin, my hair, as big as I was getting. 982 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: I just I loved it all the way until I 983 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: didn't realize how much that was going to affect my body. 984 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: And I remember the same thing happened. It was like 985 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: right after Thanksgiving. Now you would have thought I ate 986 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: the whole turkey the way that I came back and 987 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: she looked the nurse. 988 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: It was the nurse, it wasn't even my doctor. 989 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: She was like, oh, you've hit forty pounds and I 990 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: still had like four months ago, and I was like 991 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: forty pounds. 992 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: How did that? 993 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 1: She's just like did you? She's like, did you? Have 994 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: you been eating a lot? I was like, you think 995 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm over here eating a pack of donuts a day? 996 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 1: Like no, like I did not. This was not my intention. 997 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: But again there was issues going on that they didn't 998 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: even identify till I was in labor. 999 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 2: But long story short, I remember feeling like what does 1000 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: this mean for me? 1001 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: And then I remember just being like, all right, well 1002 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 1: it's fine, It'll just all go away after And. 1003 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 2: It did not. 1004 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: It did not go away immediately after. I still carry 1005 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: about fifteen pounds extra than more than I was. Like 1006 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: I said, there are benefits that I like, I have 1007 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: curse I never had before. But I remember there was 1008 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: like a year after, and I remember I did a 1009 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: performance in New York and I was wearing this like 1010 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: wrap skirt and somebody I posted a video where I 1011 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 1: was like singing a Whitney Houston record and somebody commented 1012 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: in the comments was like I. 1013 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 2: Still see that baby wait in your stomach? Whoa oh wow? 1014 00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: And I was. 1015 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: I was devastated. 1016 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: I was like because I remember the anxiety I had 1017 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: getting dressed that day to be like is it covered? 1018 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: Because I had like this loose skin now because I 1019 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: got stretched out to fifty five inches and like I 1020 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: had a super flat stomach before, and my. 1021 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: Skin was like nah, we ain't built a stretch like that. 1022 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: And so and so I remember being so self conscious 1023 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: getting on the stage and this one comment sent me 1024 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: into like a spiral of like, oh my god. 1025 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have to be so conscious about 1026 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 2: this all the time. 1027 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: Get the spanks, get the and I just remember being like, 1028 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: oh gosh, like word. And then I remember seeing Beyonce 1029 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: after she had her twins and she went into tour 1030 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: and she's wearing these shorts and people, no, she's wearing 1031 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: a dress or something, and everyone's starting to speculating, oh 1032 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: my god, she's pregnant again. She's pregnant. I'm like, no, 1033 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: she just had twins. What the fuck did you see 1034 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: how big she got? It's okay that she's not a 1035 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: size four like she was before. You don't even know 1036 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,840 Speaker 1: if that's her goal, if that's what she wants to 1037 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: get back to. Why do we do this to women? 1038 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: We never do this to men. We allow men to 1039 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: get beer belliesn't get bald, and we still love them. Okay, 1040 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: as long as they got money and they're killing it, 1041 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: y'all gonna be fine. Women, we put on a few 1042 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: extra rowns. Oh my god, she's letting herself go. I 1043 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: always love Rihanna for this example, because Rihanna came out. 1044 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: I remember, like I want to say, like a couple 1045 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: years ago, maybe she started dating. 1046 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 2: This sultan. 1047 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, oh, you go get the royalty. 1048 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: And so she came out and people were like, damn, 1049 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: Rihanna got thick, and they started trying to shame her, 1050 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: like damn, Rihanna got that because no one was acknowledging 1051 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: how thin she was before, because they got used to 1052 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: seeing her that way. When Rihanna stepped out with breasts 1053 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,959 Speaker 1: and hips and a little bit of belly. 1054 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 2: It was like, what is this? She got fat? 1055 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: And the next day Rihanna stepped out like taking all 1056 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: this voluptuousness and I don't give a fuck what you think, 1057 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden it was like, oh, we 1058 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: can choose to be thick. If Rihanna chose to be thick, 1059 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: oh now it's okay. But when you thought she let 1060 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: herself go, it wasn't okay. Just like a woman who 1061 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: gets pregnant, it's like, ooh, you let yourself go. It's like, 1062 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: maybe I actually want to hold onto this little bit 1063 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: of way. Maybe I like the way I feel. I 1064 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: feel more womanly now than I ever have when I 1065 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: get dressed, as I have curves. That's something I never 1066 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: had before, you know. So I think that the pressure 1067 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: is is it's like any insecurity, don't allow anybody to 1068 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: use shit against you. 1069 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 2: Own your shit. Lizo's out here being like I'm a 1070 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: whole ass. 1071 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: Woman and a half and say something about it, right, 1072 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm that bitch, yeah, and I am 1073 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: her like you want to be me because I have 1074 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: more confidence than that. I remember once I saw a 1075 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: woman walking down the street and she was a very large, 1076 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: obese woman, but she was wearing a tube top and 1077 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: a mini skirt. And I remember somebody I was with 1078 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: was like, well damn, and I was like, you know what, 1079 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: I was like, that woman actually has more confidence than 1080 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: somebody that you think looks more appropriate wearing that outfit. 1081 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: I was like, because she has to make a decision 1082 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: and a commitment to get dressed and know that everybody 1083 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 1: around her is going to soccer and talk shit, and. 1084 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: She's still a question walk outside. So I'm like, so 1085 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm about it. 1086 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: So I just feel like we have to get to 1087 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: a place where we're just like, and yes, my stomach isn' 1088 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 1: as flat as it used to be because I had 1089 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: a large ass baby. By the way, let me tell 1090 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: you about the invasive, serious surgery that I had to 1091 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: have to have my child. So should we talk about 1092 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 1: that or I know we can't talk about the Will 1093 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: you have empathy and sympathy for me? 1094 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 2: Then when I tell you. 1095 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: Almost died I having this trial so I got a 1096 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: little extralute skin, But I'm here to tell my story, 1097 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: Like what are we talking about? So I just feel 1098 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: like people are so critical these days, and it's really 1099 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: our job to work to block out the noise and 1100 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: to never allow anybody to use no shit that we 1101 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,279 Speaker 1: know about that makes us great and is a part 1102 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: of our narrative against us. You know, it's so sad 1103 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: though to about that is a lot of the people 1104 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: that talk shit are women. 1105 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: Oh we're programmed now. 1106 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: It's so crazy because I remember even you, like one 1107 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: of you, not you talking shit, you. 1108 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 2: Me bit. I know, I was like baby where and. 1109 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna games get thick after the baby. 1110 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 3: We're excited, and I was so hype girl boom. 1111 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: No, but I was thinking. I was thinking about you know, 1112 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: you were telling me that one of your friends was 1113 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: like Rihanna done lot, Like Rihanna's not cute anymore. Don't 1114 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 1: remember you told me that, like. 1115 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: Was itt Rihanna? 1116 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 3: I always wasna. I forgot so fucking mad, like she 1117 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 3: was my fucking cousin. 1118 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: Like it was around the time when Rihanna came out 1119 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: and was like looking more thicker. They were like Rihanna's 1120 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: lost it. 1121 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 2: She I was like, but that's what I was gonna say. 1122 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 2: I was like lost. Fuck having I mean not fuck 1123 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 2: having a baby. That's amazing, Like I had a baby. 1124 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 2: I'm I'm finsed up. I can notice changes in my body, 1125 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 2: my skin's looser or whatever. But I had to tell 1126 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 2: this bitch. I was like, dog, she's not sixteen or 1127 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 2: eighteen or twenty five. Granted, my body's been the same 1128 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: for a long ass time. Even I know that, and 1129 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 2: but you know that because you aren't look the same 1130 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 2: from ten years ago. 1131 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you gotta And also who maybe she's 1132 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: taking better care of herself. 1133 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe she was getting deep she's getting deeped down, Okay, 1134 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 3: of course, okay, eating. 1135 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: On the j. 1136 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I was like, she's like happy the mother happy. 1137 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: She's like. 1138 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 2: I was like, I was, I was supposed to are 1139 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 2: you called? You're like, I have to leave. 1140 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: I was got upset. 1141 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 2: She left, She had to leave the hangout. She got 1142 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: so st I do this to me and I think 1143 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 2: it was another black Yeah, I was pissed. I was pissed. 1144 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 2: I was just like this hater ass, these hater ass 1145 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 2: friends I got, I'm gonna have to get some new friends. 1146 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 2: I was mad as I forgot. When she was talking 1147 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 2: about this, I was. 1148 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: Like, this sounds funnillius because like when you get to 1149 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: a point and I find that, like I'm at this 1150 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: just as a woman in general, it's like I have 1151 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: zero tolerance and like, let me not say tolerance, but 1152 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: I'm very mindful of where I what frequency I'm on, 1153 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: and so any friends and people in my life that 1154 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 1: don't operate on the frequency. I don't give if they're 1155 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: family or not. Like, I'm just like, I love you 1156 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: from afar. 1157 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 3: And you know what it is because we're just talking 1158 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 3: about our witchiness and September we got message and stuff. 1159 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 3: But I'm learning to really trust my motherfucking gut. 1160 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like so nice, I'm like, I think mean 1161 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 2: just not liking her, No, bitch, it's because you don't 1162 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: like her because you don't like it or the vibe 1163 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 2: is not right right now, she's not she's not like. 1164 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes we have to accept that we can have friends 1165 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 3: and sometimes our evolutions speed up, slow down, and it 1166 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 3: just doesn't level up. 1167 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't love you. And I 1168 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 2: know we all have. 1169 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 3: To be around people that make us uncomfortable to accept, 1170 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 3: you know, all of us at our different places in 1171 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 3: our lives. But I've really accepted that, Like, my witchy 1172 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 3: shit is on point and what works for me and 1173 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 3: what I know, I know and I'm not I'm not 1174 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 3: questioning that shit anymore. 1175 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 2: I don't care if I've known you fifteen years, I 1176 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 2: don't care if I know any five years. 1177 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 3: I will love the motherfucker I met five minutes ago 1178 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,920 Speaker 3: in the gas station because that's how I roll. 1179 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 2: So I don't like when it stands a vibe isn't fit. 1180 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: Like I said, I had to go. You don't you 1181 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 2: think Rihanna doesn't look good? Vine? But me and oh, 1182 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 2: I gotta go, You gotta go. I got my appointment, 1183 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 2: just rank vibe. Don't you're not about to. 1184 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: You're not about to, Luna here off my baby hellute 1185 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: her brain with this bullshit. 1186 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't have friends like this. 1187 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: So I know that you are really into you know self, 1188 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: self health and the mental health aspect. I see you 1189 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: promoted a lot on your Instagram, Like how did you 1190 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: get into that? I even saw that you did like 1191 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: a like especially like a bullet a sound sound. 1192 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,839 Speaker 2: She discovered this last Instagram. Should we text her tell 1193 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 2: her to bring it brought? I should? I forgot to 1194 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 2: text you. I was going through I was like Erica comedy. 1195 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 2: She don't even know what I'll bring it on? Which night? 1196 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: Which bring? 1197 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I mean this. 1198 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: I feel like my wellness journey started before I became 1199 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: a mom, but definitely has been instrumental as far as 1200 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: now being in like, like I said, a whole last 1201 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 1: family and and having a child, and in recognizing that 1202 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: these practices that I discovered as far as wellness, reiki, acupuncture, therapy, 1203 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 1: all these things are tools that I need to continue 1204 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 1: to use in my everyday life moving forward. 1205 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 2: And in having a network of people and having an audience. 1206 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 2: This is something that's very close to me. 1207 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, when I was four years old, 1208 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 1: I said I wanted to be a singing nurse. 1209 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and you had you seen that before? 1210 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: You just made it up. 1211 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 2: I was like, this is my title. I'm a singing nurse. 1212 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 2: And everyone was like, it's so cute. You made that up. 1213 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, but I'm going to do sing 1214 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: And I really fucking feel like that, Like I really 1215 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: feel like I have the ability to heal. 1216 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 2: Through music, through voice, through word, and through sound. 1217 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: And so that is something that I've kind of just 1218 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: been evolving and branching out into. And I'm very thankful 1219 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: because it allows me to feel like I'm living more 1220 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: on my purpose every day. But it is, it's so important. 1221 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: It's so important, especially as mothers. If you look at 1222 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: yourself as a vessel in a cup, you deplete, like 1223 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,879 Speaker 1: it's natural in our to in our nature to give 1224 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: and give and give and give and give, but like, 1225 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: what are we doing to fill that cutback? How are 1226 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: we pouring that in to be able to give more? 1227 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,239 Speaker 1: And like, there's nothing wrong with giving, but when you're out, 1228 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: you're out. And so I think we've all hit that 1229 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,280 Speaker 1: point as women in some regard and some dynamic as mothers. 1230 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: On a daily basis of days, I'm just like I 1231 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 2: don't have it. 1232 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: Like some days I hear myself saying to my son 1233 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: when he's not listening on my Cameron, I don't have 1234 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 1: it today, And that's me acknowledging myself but also letting 1235 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: him know, is today's not the day, Like I'm running 1236 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: on empty today and I need you to I need 1237 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: you to work with me on this. And so in 1238 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,839 Speaker 1: speaking that narrative through motherhood and through wellness and even 1239 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: through making like heartbroken love records like people have always 1240 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: I'm the girl that's. 1241 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 2: Standing in the bathroom with someone crying and I'll be like, 1242 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 2: don't worry, girls, don't worry about I love you, because 1243 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 2: this is. 1244 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: Like I'm the girl giving advice to the stranger at 1245 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: the gas station mess. 1246 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, don't talk. This family is up the streets, 1247 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 2: give him a ride. It's fine. 1248 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: I am the same, but I recognize that also as 1249 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: a superpower, and so I understand that with that, I 1250 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: have to create work and narratives that do that. And 1251 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: so I have been, more than ever been brought opportunities 1252 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: this year that have afforded me to do that, to 1253 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 1: speak about wellness, to speak about sound healing specifically for me. 1254 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 2: Specifically for me. 1255 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 1: I lost my voice when I went through a very 1256 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: traumatic year, and that was directly associated to an energetic 1257 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: block in my throat chakra. And that's really what allowed 1258 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: me to forced me to find the healing, the alternative healing, 1259 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: and that was from the unspoken words and feelings that 1260 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: I didn't get out, the apologies I thought that I 1261 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: deserved that I never got from certain people, the heartbreak 1262 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 1: I was carrying, the disappointment, and I stored it all 1263 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: here in my gift and the universe. In God was 1264 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: just like, Oh, if you're not going to pay attention 1265 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: to what journey you really need to be on, I'm 1266 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 1: going to shake your whole life up by affecting your gifts. 1267 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 2: This thing that always shows up for you, it's not 1268 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 2: going to show up for you. 1269 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: After thirty minutes, Wow, you're going to struggle and you're 1270 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: going to get so uncomfortable that you're going to have 1271 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: to make a shift. And so that's where my energy 1272 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: healing came from. That's where understanding the power of where 1273 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: we store trauma in our bodies come from. That's where 1274 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: this wellness narrative has come from. And you know, I 1275 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: share that openly with my audience, and it's really important. 1276 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: Like I got a back injury right now, I knowed it. 1277 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: I know why I have a back injury. It's because 1278 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 1: I just saw somebody that I don't really fuck with anymore, 1279 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: and that trauma keeps coming up and I'm like, ough, 1280 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: and this is somebody that was very close to me, 1281 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: and every time this person appears in my life, my 1282 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: backacs up. Wow. So I understand how everything is interconnected, 1283 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: and I think that that's something that we all need 1284 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: to be mindful of. 1285 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 2: That's something we all need to be aware of. 1286 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: When you said something earlier that really resonated with me 1287 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 3: because I had this thought like recently, and it was 1288 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 3: that you know, the same like how we mother our children, 1289 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: that's the same energy we need to give ourselves. Because 1290 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 3: I found myself a lot of times brushing my own 1291 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 3: feeling like having to keep going like it's not the 1292 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 3: big of a dull girl, so I don't really cry 1293 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 3: over spilt milk, like like you're tougher than that, Like 1294 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 3: that I'm supposed to be tough and I'm supposed to 1295 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 3: be hardcore, like say that a lot. 1296 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 2: It wasn't a polittle can way too much about and 1297 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 2: literally hardcore, you know, and I just you know. 1298 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 3: And then I found myself being so gentle with my 1299 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 3: child and like it's okay, and like comforting her and 1300 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 3: like allowing her to be feel and be sad or. 1301 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 2: Be these And it dawned on me, like, how can 1302 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 2: you show up for her in this way and allow 1303 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: her this space. 1304 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 3: To be emotional and be and be these things. But 1305 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 3: you're not even allowing your You're not even giving your 1306 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 3: you're not even being. 1307 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,320 Speaker 2: Gentle with yourself. 1308 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 3: And so I'm saying, like harboring feelings of disappointment. 1309 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 2: Of of the resentment. 1310 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well people weren't gentle with me or didn't or 1311 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,880 Speaker 3: didn't give me apologies. And I was just like, wow, 1312 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 3: like that is so profound. I'm so happy that you 1313 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 3: like tapped back into that because it's true the way 1314 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 3: we mother our children and other people, we have to 1315 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 3: deliver that same gentleness to our because then that's how 1316 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 3: you can expect it from partners and from other relationships. 1317 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 3: When you don't give it to yourself, then you kind 1318 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,320 Speaker 3: of allow other people to do the same thing to 1319 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 3: you brush off your feelings. 1320 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 1: So the two things that I've really been working on 1321 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: this year is setting healthy boundaries and not taking things 1322 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: personally and literally, Like if we. 1323 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: Can have more compassion. 1324 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: And I'm a very emotional person, and I find that 1325 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: that's like a superpower but also can be a super 1326 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: hindrance in particular situations, especially with dealing with people that 1327 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: are not as emotional, And so by setting a boundary 1328 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 1: of understanding and also like having more compassion, like what 1329 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: a thing to be able to draw on more compassion 1330 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: for somebody that has zero for you to literally look 1331 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 1: at somebody in their darkest moment when they're treating you 1332 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: like dirt and being like, you know what, it's okay, 1333 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: I know that you're I know that the reason why 1334 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: you're doing this has nothing to do with me, and 1335 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: it's really your own work and traumas that are coming 1336 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,840 Speaker 1: up and I'm just not going to allow you to 1337 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: put that on me. And that's kind of where I've 1338 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: been operating on in this year because I've made a 1339 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 1: lot of changes in with people in my life that 1340 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: I literally am able to see them for who they 1341 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: truly are, even if they can't see themselves. And in 1342 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: times when I'd be like, how could you do that 1343 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: to me? How could you be that way? If I 1344 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: change that narrative and be like, you're not doing that 1345 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 1: to me. This is how you operate, This is how 1346 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: you operate with or without me. I just have an 1347 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: expectation that you won't do the same shit to me 1348 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: that I see you to everybody else. But this is 1349 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: actually the work that you need to be doing. I 1350 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: can't do that work for you. So I love you, 1351 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: but I have to set a boundary that I can't 1352 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: allow you to do this to me and a story 1353 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: and not take it primple. 1354 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 2: How could you? 1355 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 1: I know exactly how you could. And so I find 1356 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: that like more compassion is the key, and it's a 1357 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: real challenge, but it's a real gift and it brings 1358 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: so much peace to ourselves when you can just say 1359 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't need the apology. I don't need you to 1360 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 1: be sorry. I don't need I might never get that 1361 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I recognize that fucked up and I hurt 1362 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: you feelings like I might never get that from you, 1363 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: But I can forgive you without you asking for the 1364 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: apology because I have more compassion, and so that is 1365 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: that's like one of the things, and just not taking 1366 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: shit personally like whatever, Like, yeah, I know it's hard 1367 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: because sometimes you got personal with somebody and then they 1368 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: do something you like, how can I not take that 1369 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: shit personally? But if you have more compassion, then that 1370 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: personal attack doesn't seem as harsh. And that's something that's 1371 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,240 Speaker 1: been helpful for me this year in growth and evolution 1372 00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,240 Speaker 1: and peace because at the end of the day, that's 1373 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: all you got, that's all you have is your piece 1374 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and like, I'll be 1375 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: damned if I'm gonna let somebody else steal my piece. 1376 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's mine, right and that's me allowing 1377 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 2: them to do that. Like choose, choose. 1378 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: Everything is a choice. 1379 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 2: Everything is a choice. 1380 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: So if you just got to take that beat and 1381 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: be like I'm not gonna react right now, I'm just 1382 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: gonna take a breath. I was having this conversation with 1383 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: Jamila a few weeks ago because I think cancers in general, y'all, 1384 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 1: y'all love y'all. Okay, So for me, like I'm I 1385 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 1: don't really like people that much. It's scarpia like I 1386 00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: do like people, but like I do, but I'm a 1387 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: very like I'm an energy person. 1388 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm like's skeptical. 1389 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm very skeptical. I'm very observant, and I'm like, hmmm, 1390 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 1: where she's very compassionate and not to say I'm not, 1391 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: but she's very compassionate, and she's very forgiving and loving 1392 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: and that's why. And I love that quality about you. 1393 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: A lot of times I'm like, Dumilia, I'll be nice 1394 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 1: to them because I'm not in a mood. But and 1395 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: I was saying that, but there has to be a 1396 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: line between, like, how do you find that line between 1397 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: protecting your energy and like but also still being who 1398 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: you are, which is at your core you love people. 1399 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: You want to help people, and not everyone deserves your help, right, 1400 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: But it's hard to do that because it's just innately 1401 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: in you. So how do you find that line? Oh, 1402 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 1: it is exhausting, Like I don't know about you, but 1403 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 1: like I am ex I can be exhausted, exhausted by 1404 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 1: how much I have to give. I give so much 1405 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: on stage, I am the girlfriend that's being to my 1406 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: girlfriend and the girlfriend that I just met at the 1407 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 1: gas station, Like it is exhausting. And I even remember 1408 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: seeing a shaman actually like years ago, and she expressed 1409 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: to me that when you are that way, it's very 1410 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: porous and you can pull people's energy into you, and 1411 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: then that's even more exhausting. And I think it's just 1412 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: about being authentic. I think it's just about really being 1413 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 1: like can I give more today? Or do I have 1414 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: to set a boundary for myself today today it's just 1415 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 1: not the day. 1416 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 2: I don't have it. I don't have it today. 1417 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: It's a constant, I think for me, especially a balance, 1418 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 1: a balance like of being like do. 1419 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 2: You have that in your real house today? 1420 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 1: How are you feeling today and still being self and 1421 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: not feeling bad about being like I don't have it 1422 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: today and not showing like not showing up or drawing 1423 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: the boundary out of spite, but just more out of 1424 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: like protection, just yeah, like I can't, Yeah, I just 1425 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: don't have it, And like I can be very skeptical 1426 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: of people as well, and I can see people and 1427 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: read energy and be like, but at the same time, 1428 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 1: I can also just make it like just be like, 1429 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: I also see you for who it is, and like 1430 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: it's like I can be in your presence and then 1431 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 1: we don't ever have to speak again. 1432 01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 3: And that's just I think that's about like what I 1433 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 3: said about trusting my inner my feelings about people, and 1434 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 3: you know, it changes, and people change, and then you 1435 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 3: grow and your third eye gets more clear and suddenly 1436 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,720 Speaker 3: you see people for who they are and you're like, damn, 1437 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 3: like I've befriended you all this time, but I didn't 1438 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 3: really notice this and this and that. But it's because 1439 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 3: I didn't want to notice it. That's because that's busy 1440 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 3: loving you. And sometimes I'm like, damn, had I just 1441 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 3: like really stuck with my gut perception, would I knew? 1442 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 2: I always already knew, And I don't know. 1443 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 3: If you do this, I will forgive them about fucking 1444 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 3: I will not forget never never. 1445 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 2: It's impossible. And this is what I'm saying, Like we 1446 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 2: hear this thing, it's just like, oh, we just need 1447 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:37,800 Speaker 2: to move on. 1448 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: It's just like no, Okay, I can forgive you, that's fine, 1449 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: but don't ever expect me to forget some shit. And 1450 01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: so if I see characteristics in you that trigger this thing, 1451 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: then I have not forgotten. We definitely gon't have a 1452 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 1: problem because there's no growth here. And it's not about 1453 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: me holding onto shit. It's about me looking at you 1454 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: and being like, you're not growing, You're stagnant, and I 1455 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 1: can't be around. 1456 01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 2: I can't ask it. No, it's not happening. T shirt, 1457 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 2: I can't. She said, he's going up on the store. Yeah, 1458 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 2: that's what. 1459 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like, we can't erase things. 1460 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 1: You cannot erase things. You can work on healing, But 1461 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: healing is an inside job but also requires if you 1462 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: got some shit. It's like, if you keep touching the stove, 1463 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: that burn is never going to heal properly. If you 1464 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 1: keep opening up that wound and allowing that stove to 1465 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: get that close to that wound, it's never going to heal. 1466 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,360 Speaker 1: So it's just like that with people. Gotta take responsibility. 1467 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: You got to you gotta set boundaries. You cannot be 1468 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: afraid to set boundaries to just be like it's fine, 1469 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Like I'll get into arguments with my fiance and I'll 1470 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 1: be like, you know, he'll say certain things and if 1471 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 1: we're we're not aligned energetically. And I know I'm in 1472 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: my feelings and I know I have feelings. 1473 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 2: And I need a space to come to him. And 1474 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 2: he's not a very emotional person like I am. He's cancer. 1475 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 1: He is a gema who I hadn't my baby daddy, 1476 01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: who is a Gemini. I will say he's not a 1477 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,720 Speaker 1: crazy Gemini, but he definitely has a duality to him, 1478 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: and he is. He can be sensitive and he can 1479 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 1: also be He can be on and off at the 1480 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: same time. But I know when he's off, so he'll 1481 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 1: be like, what's wrong, And I'll be like, I don't 1482 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,560 Speaker 1: feel safe to share my feelings with you because I 1483 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 1: don't feel like you're in a position to receive what 1484 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: I have to say right now. And he'll be like, 1485 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: well what, And that's just like but that's just the 1486 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: reality of it. I know what I'm seeing, I know 1487 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: what I'm feeling. It's not that I think that you're not. 1488 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm setting a boundary for myself. I'm not gonna treat 1489 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: you any differently, but like bruh, Like, we can't talk 1490 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 1: about this right now because we're not we're not gelling. 1491 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: So let me not try to force a square into 1492 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: a circle right now. Like, so, let we just come 1493 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: back to it when it's time. And that is that 1494 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: is a new that is new melody because once upon 1495 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: a time and. 1496 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 2: Be like, we're gonna talk about this right now. We 1497 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 2: have to talk about it now. We're gonna sit here 1498 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 2: and talk about our feelings. I don't care and you 1499 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 2: expect change to happen overnight. 1500 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I have really worked on letting go of expectations of 1501 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: other people to arrive where you are at the same time. 1502 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 1: But what we're not gonna do is we're not going 1503 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: to stop growing. That's what we're not gonna do. Yeah, 1504 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:57,439 Speaker 1: like we can. 1505 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,240 Speaker 2: We can do this. 1506 01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: If you look at life and you go like this, 1507 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: at least we move in the same direction, you know 1508 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. We're moving, Sometimes we stop at the 1509 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 1: same point. Sometimes we're a little off. But if we're 1510 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: not progressing, it's not gonna happen. And that's in every relationship. 1511 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: I agree. 1512 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 2: I'm so happy we have another fellow sensitive ass. 1513 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 3: Can oh you're sensitive ass, because but a lot of 1514 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 3: the feel like I need that I have joy and 1515 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 3: exchanging energy with people sometimes. But You're right, there has 1516 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 3: to be a limit, there has to be a boundaries 1517 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 3: everybody can. 1518 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 1: I think it's like you have to like for me, 1519 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: watching your joy and like the love you have for 1520 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: people like I. Honestly, I feel like it's affected me 1521 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: in a very positive way. Honestly, But sometimes I feel 1522 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: like you accept people because because you're so loving, you 1523 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 1: accept for who they are, and then you continue to 1524 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: allow them in your space even though but and not 1525 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: realizing that you're still taking on their shit even though 1526 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: you've accepted that they're you know what I mean, some 1527 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 1: people just got to be x made out, you know. 1528 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: And I'm learning that I don't get your id be 1529 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: doing shit sometimes too, or I'm like, why why am 1530 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,040 Speaker 1: I still? And it's really fag. Yes, you're not changing 1531 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 1: at all, But I just feel like it's you have 1532 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: to set boundaries and then though sometimes those boundaries mean 1533 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 1: like you're no longer here. 1534 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 2: See. 1535 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,479 Speaker 1: I think I think there's two ways, like you can 1536 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,200 Speaker 1: there's two ways to look at people. You can look 1537 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: at someone and be like, I'll trust you. You're gonna 1538 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: have to earn my trust, or you'd be like, I 1539 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 1: trust you until you give me reason not to. And 1540 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on that spectrum. 1541 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 2: I try not to be as. 1542 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:32,280 Speaker 3: Well. 1543 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't like I literally would just like I will 1544 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,640 Speaker 1: see you for who you are, and until I see 1545 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: something about you that I'm like, no, that's never gonna work, 1546 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 1: then you have to show up to be that. Like Otherwise, 1547 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm just going to give you the opportunity to reveal 1548 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,959 Speaker 1: who you are as opposed to making a decision about 1549 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: who you might be, because I've done that and then 1550 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: have turned out to see people. 1551 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 2: I mean, if I thought that about my fiance, we 1552 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 2: would not be here right now. 1553 01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, he likes white. When 1554 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: I first met him, I was just like, oh, he 1555 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: would like this. There was like and because when I 1556 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 1: first met him we were both in separate relationships, I 1557 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 1: would have never thought that we would have had anything 1558 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: in common. But as I met him and got to 1559 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: know him, I was like, Oh. When I reconnected with 1560 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: him years later, I was like, I was shocked. I 1561 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, you're down to earth and 1562 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,479 Speaker 1: you're not this pretentious, stuffy pretty boy that I thought 1563 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: like you're deep and you actually have more and you're 1564 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: kind of corny and funny, like I am like had 1565 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,080 Speaker 1: no idea and you like brown girls like oh okay, 1566 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: like I really did not, you know, and so like 1567 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I said, so in changing that, it's like show me 1568 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: who you are and then give me a reason to 1569 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 1: be like mm hmm. 1570 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 2: That's interesting that because I feel like I have I 1571 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 2: with men. 1572 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of my taintedness from growing 1573 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 3: up in the valley and living in shallow ass LA. 1574 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 3: But if I like, I'll see black men and I 1575 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 3: could be like, say there with the white cirl like, 1576 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 3: oh you're not into you don't like yourself? I will 1577 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 3: make I have. I've made judgments. I've seen black man 1578 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,560 Speaker 3: with like a white woman like typical. 1579 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,160 Speaker 1: And I think about the people that judge you first 1580 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: if they see you out on a date with the 1581 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 1: white guy. 1582 01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 7: White men love you, I know they do, but I 1583 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 7: keep trying, but I want, like, I think I found 1584 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 7: a lot of that was because I grew up here, 1585 01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 7: and I think there's a lot of self hate issues 1586 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 7: with black men in LA because that's just the vibe. 1587 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 2: But I know you grew up in Canada. He grew 1588 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 2: up in. 1589 01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 3: Canada apparently and wherever that girl message just Vaughn Canada and. 1590 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 2: So okay, maybe is it not my experience just growing 1591 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 2: up in law? 1592 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 3: What is your what is your take on? Like okay, 1593 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,040 Speaker 3: how I mean, I've been to Canada, But what's the 1594 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 3: racial like like integration or like black men? 1595 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what's the temperature? What's the temperature? So 1596 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 2: I mean I grew up. I grew up. I feel 1597 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 2: like it's. 1598 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,760 Speaker 1: A cultural thing in Canada more than it is a 1599 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: racing or at least in Toronto, because Toronto is so 1600 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: multicultural that it was like seeing a black guy with 1601 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: a Filipino girl was just like, yeah, she's down, and 1602 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 1: so like it wasn't a weird thing to be like, 1603 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 1: oh it's weird, Like my best friend is Filipino. Of 1604 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: course he's down with a Caribbean guy. Like of course 1605 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 1: we all are, you know. So for me it was 1606 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,639 Speaker 1: like culturally. 1607 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 2: It was never a race thing for me, I guess 1608 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 2: per se Lie. 1609 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: I remember being in elementary school and like one of 1610 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: my favorite boyfriends that I ever had, he was like 1611 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Chilean and it was like he was Spanish and I 1612 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: had it for him. 1613 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 2: In sixth grade, you know what I mean. But it 1614 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 2: was just culture. 1615 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 1: I think it wasn't really race, And I feel like 1616 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the race thing comes up a lot here in America. 1617 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,000 Speaker 2: It's very different in Canada, especially in Toronto. 1618 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Our difference is our culture are melting pot is a 1619 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 1: strength and celebrated and highly revered. 1620 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 2: Whereas out here, I feel like there are. 1621 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Hardline drawn between in culture and it comes from the 1622 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: history of what it is. 1623 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 2: It's just like, are you with us or are you not? 1624 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,080 Speaker 1: Because for a long time y'all wasn't with us, you know, 1625 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 1: so there's a different thing. We have to check a box. 1626 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 1: Whose team? 1627 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 2: What's squat? Are you representing? You know what I mean? 1628 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Like, there's a lot more I feel allyship in Canada. 1629 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying the racism doesn't exist. 1630 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that those stereotypes and norms like I 1631 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,760 Speaker 1: come from guy where my family comes from Guyana, where 1632 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 1: my cousins look nothing like me. Like i have cousins 1633 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 1: that are white with blue eyes, and then I've got 1634 01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,559 Speaker 1: cousins that are darker with curliers, super kinky hair, and 1635 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: like different curl patterns and different textures. And it's just 1636 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: like However, there is a deep lying historic racism that 1637 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 1: happens amongst all black people because of howism of colorism, 1638 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: because of how we were distributed, for lack of a 1639 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,280 Speaker 1: better word. But you know, these these are deep things 1640 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 1: that we come to. But it's amazing to me to 1641 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 1: see that we can still do that to each other. 1642 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: But we still don't celebrate like all that it is, 1643 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 1: all that we did that card just stop. Oh my 1644 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:40,759 Speaker 1: bad that we still don't celebrate all that. The beauty 1645 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 1: of that of that is like I don't look at 1646 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,520 Speaker 1: any other race and see this much diversity. 1647 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 2: And so for me, it's like hmm. 1648 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,480 Speaker 1: Okay, and and I think that I don't know me personally, 1649 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm becoming more open to allyship as far as here 1650 01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,120 Speaker 1: in America. It's just like you might never know what 1651 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: it is to be a woman of color or a 1652 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: black woman, but you better be an ally to us 1653 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 1: white man Asian man like you better be like, I 1654 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,640 Speaker 1: don't know what the experience is, but I'm down to 1655 01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 1: support what your rights and what you're fighting for are. 1656 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 1: And that goes for your white girlfriends, that goes for 1657 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: your Spanish girlfriends, that goes for your Asian girlfriends. That 1658 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 1: goes for men, women, all your people, your coworkers, that 1659 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: goes for everybody you know. So I just feel like, yeah, 1660 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: like it's it's different. I definitely had a different perspective 1661 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 1: going here, and I had to come here and learn 1662 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: the culture of what African American history was, which is 1663 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 1: not African Canadian history it's very different, which is not 1664 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: Caribbean history exactly the same, and have a certain level 1665 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: of sensitivity and awareness and understand what that is. 1666 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 2: For sure, absolutely interesting. Come to Canada. It's good. Look 1667 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 2: you got a bug brother, Like, yeah, I might need 1668 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 2: to get out of here. 1669 01:11:54,720 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: I said, I've been solicited for arranged marriage marriages for sure. 1670 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 2: Do you have anything else? Do we have any questions? 1671 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 1: Anybody want to answer? I need to wrap it up soon. 1672 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 2: About Vaughn, Canada, I think she answered it. 1673 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 3: She said, how was it like growing up in Canada 1674 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 3: and Vaughn in particular, and when are you coming back 1675 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,280 Speaker 3: to visit? 1676 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: Canada was amazing, Vaughn was trash, Vaughn was like as 1677 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 1: soon as we moved from the city to Vaughn, it 1678 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: was a complete culture shock because I grew up in 1679 01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: the city with so much diversity and then we moved 1680 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 1: to the suburbs and it was all Italian, all white, 1681 01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 1: and I remember coming from the city and I grew 1682 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 1: up as like a girl in the city with so 1683 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 1: much diversity. I never even looked at myself as different 1684 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 1: until people started assuming that because I came from the city, 1685 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,680 Speaker 1: I was a part of a gang. Don't agree, And 1686 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 1: I was like, what are we talking about? Do you 1687 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 1: have a straight A student? Whether we were talking about 1688 01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 1: like I do well, like what are we talking about? 1689 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: Indie streets like that, I played sports, like what are 1690 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: we talking about? And and I will say that that 1691 01:12:54,600 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: experience gave me a wonderful tool in being a minority 1692 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 1: in a school where there was predominantly white people and 1693 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 1: having certain judgments like put on you and feeling ganged 1694 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,639 Speaker 1: up on our times really made me show up as 1695 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 1: my own leader and forced me to recognize that I 1696 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 1: can be adaptable in any situation, that like, it does 1697 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 1: not matter where I am, drop me off anywhere, and 1698 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 1: I will survive. And that was a hard lesson to learn, 1699 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,759 Speaker 1: because at times it was very isolating and very sad. 1700 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: And I remember, even when I was thirteen, the one 1701 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 1: girl that I've identified with her family was from where 1702 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 1: my family was from in the Caribbean, and even though 1703 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 1: we looked different, we still had a very cultural connection. 1704 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 1: And then she died tragically in a car accident right 1705 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 1: before we started high school, and I remember being like, 1706 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, the one person I found here is 1707 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 1: now gone, and it was crazy and tragic. But again, 1708 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 1: all for the story, all for the character building. But yeah, 1709 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 1: like it was not the best experience growing up there. 1710 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,600 Speaker 1: I really would have loved to have more diversity in 1711 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: my high school experience. But like I said, it definitely 1712 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 1: prepared me for being adaptable and not being divined by 1713 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: now not allowing myself to be defined by my environment, 1714 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 1: but to define myself in the environment. Well, I feel 1715 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:18,040 Speaker 1: like I've learned so much. You're so just intelligent, well spoken, 1716 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 1: like strong, like you really have a stronghold on your 1717 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,759 Speaker 1: beliefs that I really respect them. That's beautiful because. 1718 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 2: You never know, like I don't, I don't know you. 1719 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,000 Speaker 2: We just reached out. 1720 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 1: We were like, let's let's have a conversation, you know, honestly, 1721 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,639 Speaker 1: like I don't know. Me and Tomial have had really 1722 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 1: awesome everyone that we've connected with on this podcast, it's 1723 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,800 Speaker 1: always been such an amazing and learning experience. 1724 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 3: I believe define like like even in aesthetics and an aesthetation, 1725 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:46,679 Speaker 3: I do lashes. 1726 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,640 Speaker 1: By the way, I've been admiring these lashes from this 1727 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 1: angle all show these. 1728 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 3: Are like little flair because I can't do my own 1729 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,360 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at what I do. 1730 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm into them. 1731 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 2: But I always like, I always get really chill clients. 1732 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 3: I really completely in all aspects of life, believe in 1733 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 3: like my gravitational pulls. 1734 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 2: While people that are. 1735 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 3: Like minded and like, I never get like I go 1736 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,800 Speaker 3: to people's houses so I can get some weird shit 1737 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 3: happening to me. 1738 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I never do. 1739 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm like I found a new front, you know, like always, 1740 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 3: and I think that that energy comes to the podcast. 1741 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 2: It's like we always just like come upon people that 1742 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 2: were like, oh, you're part of our tribe, come dinner. 1743 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 1: Yes at all, But it's because you're living with intention 1744 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 1: and you're living in truth, and when you do that, 1745 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:26,679 Speaker 1: you find of the people that are doing the same, 1746 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: and so like, that's not coincidence. 1747 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 2: That's literally what you're doing. 1748 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,200 Speaker 1: That's the work you're doing, that's the energy you're putting out, 1749 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 1: and that's the thing that more people need to be 1750 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: aware of is like everything is not happening to you, 1751 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,000 Speaker 1: like whatever's going on in your life. Before you start 1752 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: pointing at other people like why is this happening, take 1753 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 1: a look at yourself. Understand that, like your frequency that 1754 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: you're putting out there is happening because you're manifesting it. 1755 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 1: And I know that sounds crazy some people that might 1756 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,559 Speaker 1: be listening because they maybe haven't understood that, but it 1757 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent true. And I always say this 1758 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,000 Speaker 1: is one thing that people say is like even if 1759 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 1: you take something small, if you want to test it, 1760 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 1: just start saying so they're like, just like I want 1761 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 1: to see more red flowers. We want to see more 1762 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: red flowers, and then just see how many red flowers 1763 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 1: you start to see. 1764 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 2: It really is all of it. It's not just all 1765 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,120 Speaker 2: serie listening and algorithms. 1766 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 1: You know. 1767 01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 2: It's like we really are we really are. 1768 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 1: Powerful beings, and we do have the ability to manifest 1769 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 1: exactly what we want and who we want around. And 1770 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,960 Speaker 1: so there's just no coincidence that from Chavon to Shannon 1771 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,000 Speaker 1: to Q and Germany at. 1772 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,960 Speaker 2: The beginning of my career, you know that all. 1773 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 1: These things just come full circle into line, which doesn't 1774 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,760 Speaker 1: seem like it all should connect, but it does. But 1775 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,160 Speaker 1: when you are in your right space and timing, you 1776 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 1: end up where you are supposed to. And so I'm 1777 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 1: happy to be at the table. I'm happy to be here. 1778 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Time more drives. Yes, well, thank you so much for 1779 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 1: taking time out of her day to come hang out 1780 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 1: with us. Can you tell our listeners where they can 1781 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 1: find you? Yes, at Melanie Fiona on every social media platform, 1782 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 1: Melanifiona dot com, Melanie Fiona TV on YouTube, because I 1783 01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,600 Speaker 1: think for your listeners if they want to come, I 1784 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 1: did a say alas called Living Awake where I did 1785 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 1: interview some of my friends, chant being one of them 1786 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 1: about their journey to their awakening moments, which was like 1787 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,120 Speaker 1: a huge thing for me in twenty twelve. 1788 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 2: So that was the pivot to wellness for me. 1789 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,559 Speaker 1: So I think that's a really good series that I 1790 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 1: think people will appreciate there. And yeah, just hol it 1791 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 1: at me online, slide on my DM. I might end 1792 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 1: up at your table. All right, y'all, you know where 1793 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: to find us at Good Mom's Underscore, a Bad Choices. 1794 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 3: Submit some hories and if you're in Atlanta or in 1795 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,520 Speaker 3: a nearby city. You know, we're having our live motherfucking 1796 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 3: show on Sunday, October thirteenth. We expect you in the 1797 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 3: mother fucking building drinking tequila or whatever you drink. 1798 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 2: You know we'll be there. It'll be fun. Buy your tickets. 1799 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 2: The link is in our bio and. 1800 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,679 Speaker 1: Bessie, we'll catch you next week. 1801 01:17:48,000 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 5: Bye bye, bye, puss puss Pus