WEBVTT - A World of Trouble

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to tell you that today's conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan was pre recorded following the announcement the decision by

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court to end our democracy, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a very low conversation in terms of energy feeling. We

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<v Speaker 1>are in a world of trouble and I cannot express

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<v Speaker 1>that enough. I cannot urge you enough to use the

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<v Speaker 1>remaining months that we have to organize, to strategize to

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<v Speaker 1>get people to vote for Joe Biden. But understand that

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<v Speaker 1>that is about a four year lifeline. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>indefinite at all, and the Supreme Court has saw to that.

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<v Speaker 1>If Donald Trump is elected, I will tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>the first one hundred days are going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>bloodiest and the worst that this country has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's saying a lot. I need people to take

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<v Speaker 1>this with the gravity and the seriousness that people took

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<v Speaker 1>their lives in Germany in Austria in the nineteen thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not overreacting. Do not let anyone tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that you are overreacting. But I will urge you not

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<v Speaker 1>to allow your fear to paralyze you into a place

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<v Speaker 1>of apathy and complacency. I will urge you to utilize

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<v Speaker 1>that fear to propel you to make really hard decisions

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming months about your future, the future of

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<v Speaker 1>your families, of your community. We are at that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and the more folks that can share these messages, that

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<v Speaker 1>can share these podcast interviews, that can post them on

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<v Speaker 1>your Facebook, on your Instagram, on whatever social platform that

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<v Speaker 1>you use to get this message out, please do. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not about the numbers, I don't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>It is about getting as many people to a place

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<v Speaker 1>of safety as they can possibly find for themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment. The demise following a Trumpet win will be

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<v Speaker 1>swift like nothing you've ever seen, and there will be

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<v Speaker 1>no protests at that point that can stop it. So

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<v Speaker 1>folks need to prepare. And that's the conversation that Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>and I get into on today's show. Well, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't even know what to say. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say my usual, which is like, you know, it's doctor here.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy right so excited to have our in house doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Jonathan metzel Uh here because if there was any

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<v Speaker 1>time that you felt like you need a doctor, it

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<v Speaker 1>is probably at this moment, Jonathan. We are talking, uh

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<v Speaker 1>recording this a day after uh the Supreme courtious ended

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<v Speaker 1>democracy in this country, and I'm still reeling from the news. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not doing that well? So how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy? How the words? You're gonna ask me that? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me start by first responding to some of our readers,

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<v Speaker 2>listener fans out there who want us to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>cheerful stuff. So I'll start with a cheerful thing, which

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<v Speaker 2>is it's July. It's beautiful outside. We got another good July, August, September, October.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we got take another good five months of this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So this should be our summer of love. Right, if

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<v Speaker 2>we're going down on the Titanic, this should be that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if there's a restaurant you always wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>go to, go to that restaurant. If you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>stay at home and make couscous or get a dog,

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<v Speaker 2>or practice dry humping or whatever you want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the time to do it. Because this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is our summer of I wouldn't say it's our

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<v Speaker 2>summer of freedom. I would say, it's our summer of

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<v Speaker 2>relative freedom relative to freedom we might not have later

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<v Speaker 2>on down that road. So if you wanted to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>like do it now. So that's that's part of it,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, you know, I just think that there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, there's a waking up moment for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who are like, oh my god, And

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<v Speaker 2>it is a kind of Cassandra moment because like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people are saying, like, oh my god, here's

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<v Speaker 2>all these freedoms we took for grant aid. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like it's just they obviously didn't listen to

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<v Speaker 2>our conversations or our show or something like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>so the question is, I don't know. I'm to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the last hardest twenty fours for me, not that

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<v Speaker 2>it was any surprise. Honestly, you and I are the

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<v Speaker 2>least surprised people in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we are the least surprise. I honestly do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we are among the least surprise. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that, like I don't know, Jonathan, when

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<v Speaker 1>the news broke six to three, I at least thought

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<v Speaker 1>it would be five to four, and I at least

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<v Speaker 1>thought that it was not going to give Donald Trump everything, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, more more than everything, more than he asked for.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that it was going to be like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. But in the instances of whatever, pick and

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<v Speaker 1>choose and so a decision as blatant, as broad as this,

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<v Speaker 1>that is just so. I mean it is there's no

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<v Speaker 1>mincing of this, there's no hopefulness attached to this, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no this is beyond the pale. And for I think

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Biden to address the nation for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time a president addresses the nation following a Supreme Court decision,

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<v Speaker 1>and for him to end that five minute speech with

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<v Speaker 1>God bless the troops and may God protect our democracy,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh it was. It was just so clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of people held on to

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of hope that the Supreme Court is crazy

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<v Speaker 1>and the nice and their right wing, but they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to usher in the fourth right. And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they did yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about the long game, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>how long have how long have they been like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if we think about the Materian candidate, but like these

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<v Speaker 2>guys are like Cicada, see you know, they've been living

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<v Speaker 2>in the soil for seventeen years, like in full view,

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<v Speaker 2>just plotting this takeover, right, I mean, because the ironic

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<v Speaker 2>thing is like the most radical are the dudes that

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<v Speaker 2>have been there the long cast. To me, that's that's incredible,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just to me, that's incredible that it was

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<v Speaker 2>in plain view. It was in plain v this whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's so much there's just so much disbelief, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think there are two questions I think we

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<v Speaker 2>should be asking right now, to be honest. One is

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<v Speaker 2>what's the nature of that disbelief? Like when people like

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<v Speaker 2>you and WAJ and me and other people have been

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<v Speaker 2>frustratingly shouting this for so long, and maybe there's just

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<v Speaker 2>no avenue, Like we can shout all we want, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like the elevator button to close the

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<v Speaker 2>door that's not connected anything. Maybe shouting wasn't enough or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. But part of the question is like

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<v Speaker 2>why weren't I mean, you know, my personal frustration right

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<v Speaker 2>like even my last book, I was trying to name

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<v Speaker 2>it how we lost, And the argument of the book

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<v Speaker 2>was that we weren't paying enough attention, that guns were

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<v Speaker 2>a false issue compared to the bigger story, which was

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<v Speaker 2>taking over the Supreme Court, which they were using guns

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<v Speaker 2>to take over the Supreme Court for largely anti democratic

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<v Speaker 2>issues that weren't about public health. Public health was a misnomer,

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<v Speaker 2>and my publisher rejected the argument, made me change the

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<v Speaker 2>title of the book, said that's never going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody who has been in a Cassandra position probably

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<v Speaker 2>has twenty stories like this. So part of the story

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<v Speaker 2>is what's the nature of that disbelief that all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden people are waking up now with four months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>until you know it matters, and then what can we

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<v Speaker 2>do between now and then, Like what's the strategy? We

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<v Speaker 2>need a strategy right now, like we shock. We're in shock,

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<v Speaker 2>like we were in shock after Dobbs, we were in

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<v Speaker 2>shock after Pearl Harbor, we were in shock at these

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<v Speaker 2>other moments that are akin to this in American history,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like a real threat to what we thought

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<v Speaker 2>America was or safety or security. And then what's our strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what my sister said to me this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>because neither one of us have slept and so it

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<v Speaker 1>was like five point forty five and We're on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone this morning, and my sister said, Okay, we basically

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<v Speaker 1>have essentially six months to four years for American democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like, six months if in fact Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is elected, and four years if Joe Biden is re elected.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's like, regardless, whenever a Republican becomes president of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, it's an endgame. And she's like, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the plan? And I will say this. I said, Look, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I want everyone and I'm gonna just be as honest

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<v Speaker 1>as I have been. Everyone needs to be operating on

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<v Speaker 1>a six month plan to be absolutely completely frank things

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<v Speaker 1>that I was researching today, Jonathan, like in the wee

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<v Speaker 1>hours of the morning, I was like, how long did

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<v Speaker 1>it take Hitler to moments? It took two months. He

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<v Speaker 1>was elected in January of nineteen thirty three, and by

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<v Speaker 1>March of nineteen thirty three, the first camp in Dushua,

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<v Speaker 1>Germany was built, and the first people that were sent

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<v Speaker 1>there political prisoners and perceived enemies of the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's you know, Rachel Bitkofer has been just

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<v Speaker 2>you know again nobody listened, but no, it's incredible. And

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<v Speaker 2>the other interesting story about Hitler is a failed politician

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<v Speaker 2>who was in power, lost, came back, there's a collapse,

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<v Speaker 2>and then asked a form of government, and then people

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<v Speaker 2>thought it wouldn't be too bad and all this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, and then even then it was working for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. So yeah, no, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's this site happens quickly, you know, and and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so easily manipulated. And as we've said, citing our good

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<v Speaker 2>friend Jason Stanley so many times here, the conditions that

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<v Speaker 2>allow this, among other things, are a fractured opposition, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the ways that we've been fractured to let

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<v Speaker 2>this happen are a huge part of the story, in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the thing itself. But it's just you know

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<v Speaker 2>that part. Okay, six month lane, what else you got?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I know, I'm just I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>the folks here, here's what you need to do. While

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be able to do multiple things at

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<v Speaker 1>one time, which is you need to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>organize as many people as possible to vote, uh and

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Joe Biden. Please stop the nonsense of a

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<v Speaker 1>call for someone else. It is not going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>not at this late stage and definitely not after this decision.

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<v Speaker 1>So get as many people organize, donate up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot. And at the same time, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>part of an unprotected class of people, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>from a religious minority, if you are from a racial minority,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are from the LGBTQ community, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a person that is disabled, if you are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>liberal liberal, if you have been, if you were a journalist,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are an academic that has been very vocal

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<v Speaker 1>about where we are. I suggest that you developed up

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<v Speaker 1>and exit strategy for yourself and your family and understand

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<v Speaker 1>that unfortunately, everyone will not go because people will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that we survived it the first time, we'll make

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<v Speaker 1>it through the next time. And tell me, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not disclosing that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Where can a first and go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can go to a lot of places.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to a lot of places. But I

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<v Speaker 1>as sure as how I'm not disclosing where I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about going.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows where I'm going, sir, Where is that, David Busters?

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<v Speaker 1>They'll never look for you there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I said it on TV like nine times already.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just, you know, I think that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you have talked about your family many times on this

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<v Speaker 1>show with me fleeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me just say please. My grandfather was the

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<v Speaker 2>one guy who said, this shit is getting real. And

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<v Speaker 2>my grandfather had a lot of non Jewish friends. Our

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<v Speaker 2>family in Austria, we had a religious side, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we had a kind of really secular side. My grandfather

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<v Speaker 2>super secular. He worked in a horse stable with tons

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<v Speaker 2>of non Jewish friends, and they all said, dude, get

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of here. This is getting bad. And

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<v Speaker 2>so my grandfather tried to convince my whole family, our grandparents,

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<v Speaker 2>our aunts, our uncles, our cousins, and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've been through this before, we'll get through

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<v Speaker 2>it again.

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<v Speaker 1>That was there since around what time is this happening?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is obviously right at the very beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>when the stuff started getting bad, and they were in Austria,

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<v Speaker 2>not in Germany, and so it was before obviously before

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<v Speaker 2>the really bad stuff happened in Austria. So he gathered

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<v Speaker 2>my grandmother and my dad and they just packed up everything,

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<v Speaker 2>got the hell out of their effect. They took like

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<v Speaker 2>their three most valuable things, one of which was a

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<v Speaker 2>feather quilt of goose feathers that my grandmother had plucked.

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<v Speaker 2>So I still have that down comforter in a bag

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<v Speaker 2>because it was so valuable to them, just as to

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<v Speaker 2>me a kind of reminder it smells like goose, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest. But for them that was kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that they thought, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the thing we need. And then they were

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<v Speaker 2>displaced persons for ten years, and then they finally got

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<v Speaker 2>into the US, which was a beacond of the opposite ideology, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the question now as I say where do

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<v Speaker 2>you go? I wasn't saying like where you specifically going?

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<v Speaker 2>But besides, Dave Investor is like, what ideology is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be home for people who do flee? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>And I got an open question which don't answer, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say, is it Blue States? Is it other countries?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it sanctuary areas? Like all these things are all

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<v Speaker 2>there's no easy answer the way like a mayor which

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<v Speaker 2>was not an easy answer, right because it wasn't letting

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<v Speaker 2>people in.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was on the other side of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's just it's a complicated time. And

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<v Speaker 2>again we have some time now to also mobilize I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't want to say like, oh, we're all

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<v Speaker 2>giving up. I don't think we're given up. I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to ask you one question about the Biden thing,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not going to happen, but just ideally, and

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<v Speaker 2>I realized it should have happened three months ago if

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to do this, but a convention where

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<v Speaker 2>everybody makes their best case, We hear everybody out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a national primetime thing, a debate for different strategies

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<v Speaker 2>for Democrats, we all decide to get around somebody knew

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<v Speaker 2>that Biden gives his blessing, and whether it's Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 2>or it's one of the people people are talking about

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<v Speaker 2>now or something like that. There actually is what Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>used to do, which is a contested convention that then

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<v Speaker 2>generates excitement and then, like in the UK system, a

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<v Speaker 2>seven week barnstorming kind of deal, which is what the

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<v Speaker 2>US used to do. You think there's no chance that

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<v Speaker 2>would work?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't, cause I don't think that it will

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<v Speaker 1>work because one, I don't think that this election is

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<v Speaker 1>any more about excitement than it is, you know, fear.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that there is anything that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to quote unquote, excite the people. This is not two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight or twenty twelve. What people need to

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<v Speaker 1>be voting on now is an existential threat to your

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<v Speaker 1>absolute way of life. And you know, the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I think they can do, and by day I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Demo, big d Democrats is talk about the scare

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<v Speaker 1>the shit out of everyone is breakdown Project twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>like a fucking fraction. Like give it to people in

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<v Speaker 1>little bitty bites. Tell them about you know now that

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<v Speaker 1>this power is absolute and the president is a king.

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<v Speaker 1>Remind them of some of the things that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has said. Put it up on billboards, put it up

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<v Speaker 1>on commercials. None of this is hyperbolic. There are no

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<v Speaker 1>guardrails whatsoever at all. And so when he says I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to deport eleven million people, who's going to stop

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<v Speaker 1>him a six to three Trump Supreme Court. When he

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<v Speaker 1>says that he's going to have retribution against his political enemies,

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<v Speaker 1>what's to stop him? No one, right, because he's immune.

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<v Speaker 1>And then for anybody else who's going to do his bidding,

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<v Speaker 1>he will just provide them with a pardon. And what

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<v Speaker 1>does a pardon really matter? Again, when you have a

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<v Speaker 1>six to three Supreme Court that doesn't give a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that any move or distraction away from

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<v Speaker 1>just supporting Biden and understanding that he has a very competent,

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<v Speaker 1>very young vice president of the United States and if

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<v Speaker 1>she was not a she or a person of color,

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<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't be having this fucking conversation. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>have to also understand them misogyn war that is at

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<v Speaker 1>play here with this conversation of Biden should walk away

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<v Speaker 1>or can't we have the contested whatever. I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a conversation for two years ago, right, This was Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a conversation that serious people needed to be having.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are at those levers two years ago? Right? And

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<v Speaker 1>so this is not a conversation that now everything has

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<v Speaker 1>come to fruition that we thought couldn't is now here.

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<v Speaker 1>And now people want to say, like, oh, well, the

0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.520
<v Speaker 1>New York Times wants to do a coordinated attack. When

0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was convicted of thirty four felonies, where were

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<v Speaker 1>the calls for him to drop out of the race,

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<v Speaker 1>Where were the calls for him to step down from

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party? There were none. So we have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that there is a coordination and a strategy that

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<v Speaker 1>is happening at all levers of power, including the media.

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<v Speaker 1>Right that is implicit they are accomplices. And so no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that we have time even for the

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<v Speaker 1>speculation at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well then let's get it together. I mean,

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, it just feels. You know, democracy is a

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>system of checks and balances, but people smell something very

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<v Speaker 2>tribal right now, which is the defeat of the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of what is driving a lot of this,

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.440
<v Speaker 2>like this false promise that you can own the libs

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<v Speaker 2>or own the culture world.

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<v Speaker 1>But they do. This is the thing too that I

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<v Speaker 1>want and why I say, like, we can do both,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can both organize and use whatever platforms people

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<v Speaker 1>have in order to spread the truth and get as

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<v Speaker 1>many people to vote as possible. But we're like America

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<v Speaker 1>as we know it has been done for the last

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<v Speaker 1>several years and this last decision by the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no more abortion, there is no more affirmative action.

0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 1>There is legalized bribery, there is agencies no longer have

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<v Speaker 1>any powered those they have centralized power to the executive

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<v Speaker 1>branch and to the court. There is no like Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>but we could do X, Y and Z. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that we can do is vote for Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>hope that he would that he gets re elected, and

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<v Speaker 1>then in those first two years of his reelection, that

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<v Speaker 1>he expands the court that we have also won the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate and the House, and that we take drastic measures

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<v Speaker 1>to protect the Constitution and our democracy. But barring that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't know how how they haven't won.

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<v Speaker 2>Well again, those are more options than we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have five months from now, possibly, So I guess let's

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<v Speaker 2>do that. You know, you got me, Let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Think like you know, I just I think that we

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<v Speaker 1>are at the precipice of our demise and we are

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<v Speaker 1>like looking over the ledge and we're just like, well

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<v Speaker 1>should I jump? Should I not jump? And I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're being pushed regardless. So this final choice is honestly

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<v Speaker 1>the last choice that Americans will have. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw I don't know if you saw this,

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<v Speaker 1>but the BET Music Awards were a couple of nights

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:22.720
<v Speaker 1>ago and Taraji p Henson, actress phenomenal actress, takes a

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<v Speaker 1>moment to tell people to google Project twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>and the analytics went through the roof. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is a captive audience of young people of

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<v Speaker 1>color who are like, what is that? You know? And

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<v Speaker 1>again we've been talking about it, but when you have

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<v Speaker 1>now some people's icons and folks really saying, hm, things

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<v Speaker 1>look bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, let's do.

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<v Speaker 1>That final final thoughts tell me oh, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, just some huge front of me wants to

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<v Speaker 2>say better late than ever. People are weak up. We

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 2>do have options right now, and so I hope we

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<v Speaker 2>mobilize again. It's just like I mean, think about you

0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 2>go back to our conversation two years ago where we

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<v Speaker 2>were saying people aren't paying enough attention to judges and

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<v Speaker 2>the power judges have. Like that was two years ago

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<v Speaker 2>that we have been having this conversation, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, We're up against an adversary that was very directed,

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<v Speaker 2>understood how power worked, and we get distracted and right

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<v Speaker 2>now we can't get distracted. That's just kind of power.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one hundred percent. So folks need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do both. And and I would encourage you to

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<v Speaker 1>be sharing these shows with your networks, to be posting them,

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<v Speaker 1>and to stay connected to independent voices as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you possibly can.

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<v Speaker 2>And you rest up, then let's go to theve investors.

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<v Speaker 2>Then let's get cracking here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a plan. That is it for me today,

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<v Speaker 1>dear friends. As always, power to the people and to

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 1>all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as

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<v Speaker 1>fun