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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, man, He's a literal titan across

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Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet.

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Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo.

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Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is you are about to embark

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Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as

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Speaker 1: psychological nudity.

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Speaker 2: This is stu goox and this is Stupidity. Here we go,

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Speaker 2: Jim Hoy, Welcome in to another episode of Stupotoity, the

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Speaker 2: You have made us the biggest podcast in the world.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Mike Yay, it's four twenty. We

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Speaker 2: are recording on four twenty. My man, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good? How are you? Though? That's the question.

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Speaker 2: I'm not there yet, Mike. I'll be there at for twenty,

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Speaker 2: I say, the second we are done doing this podcast

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Speaker 2: and talking to Chad Pennington, the greatest quarterback of Jet's history,

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Speaker 2: will I will arrive at four twenty. Okay, I'm not

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Speaker 2: there yet.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you have more ceremony and tradition on

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Speaker 4: four to twenty than I do at Christmas. It's my

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Speaker 4: New Year's Mike. Four twenty is my birthday? Is that

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Speaker 4: the mark by which you remember everything? Like, No, that

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Speaker 4: was last four twenty, so it must have been Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it must have been two thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I do it. And my wife gets

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Speaker 2: me a birthday cake every year, so forty eight now

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Speaker 2: she'll put forty eight joints into the birthday cake. That's

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Speaker 2: how we're able to smoke them all. Having that quick

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Speaker 2: game of athletes like canotes for twenty athletes. This is

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Speaker 2: huge is a big one. So really, and Chad Pennington

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Speaker 2: is going to join us. The greatest quarterback of Jet history, Mike.

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Speaker 2: He is the greatest quarterback of Jet's history, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean he's he's definitely top five. Okay, well, actually I

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Speaker 2: have my top five Jet quarterbacks. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: before Pennington comes on. But for twenty what we are

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Speaker 2: doing essentially here for those of you not in the

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Speaker 2: know and in twenty twenty one, is anyone in the know,

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Speaker 2: Mike on four twenty listen.

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Speaker 4: If they are not in the know, they don't listen

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Speaker 4: to this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're basically doing athletes and entertainers that canote marijuana.

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Speaker 2: That's all we're doing. Justin Smoke Brown, the Smoke Monster,

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Speaker 2: Smokey Robinson. Wow, that's pretty good. But I think I

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Speaker 2: feel like I closed the smoke category with just the smoke.

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Speaker 4: All right, then I'll take another easy category.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Victor Green, former jet excellent. How about Bud Smith?

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Speaker 2: How about that? And my new bowl.

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Speaker 4: Stone Gossarp?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow? Still you know what? And he was on

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Speaker 2: this podcast. I didn't think this like I could have

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Speaker 2: gone Steve Stone. I didn't think the Stone Stone. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm very uh. And of course Kenny Marijuana about Uh,

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Speaker 2: there's a guy Mike Potts, I think his name was

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Speaker 2: Mike Potts something like that.

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Speaker 4: Harry Potter.

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Speaker 2: Harry Potter very good. Oh oh, you would just get

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Speaker 2: into the pot Ones, weren't you.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, no, I'm ready to go here Okay Brooks,

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, Herb, Herb, Herb, that is fantastic, man, Herb.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think about Herb. You didn't think about bowl? No,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think about herb. Is there a grass? Not

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Speaker 2: that I could? Garrett Blunt, Mgarrett Blunt is like James Blunt,

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Speaker 2: So now I'm trying to think of joints. Okay, we

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Speaker 6: Bong?

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Speaker 2: Is there a bong?

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Speaker 4: Piper Perabo? Who Piper Perabo? She's an actress, She's okay,

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Speaker 4: coyote ugly Okay, I'm Baker Wow, Bakers, Wow, Wow.

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Speaker 2: Look at you, Mike. You were prepared for this game.

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Speaker 2: This is the most prepared Mike.

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Speaker 4: Ky's ever been. Dante high Tower.

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Speaker 2: We should do we should Alonzo Heismith, we should do

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Speaker 2: all of these on four twenty. You've never been better

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Speaker 4: Just record all day on four to twenty.

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Speaker 2: Ganko Jones, Oh wow, you win, you win. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to Kushner. Oh, Kushner, cush My new bowl I feel

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Speaker 2: While you were upset that you didn't think of it? Right?

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Speaker 2: Considerable an athlete that does not connote for twenties, Chad Pennington, could.

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Speaker 4: You get more opposite?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: To answer your.

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Speaker 2: Question, Mike, No, no, But I'm excited to talk to

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Speaker 2: Chad Pennington. We are you and I a couple of

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Speaker 2: Jet fans cutting it up, miserable Jet fans. We're very

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Speaker 2: excited to have Pennington on because Pennington is the greatest

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Speaker 2: quarterback in Jet history, which I wonder if he's proud

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Speaker 4: By the way, My god, I mean, who's he fighting

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Speaker 2: Well? You want my top five Jet quarterbacks of all time? Here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm writing mine down too, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's write ours down. Hold on, I'm writing mine down.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, give me a second, give me a second.

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Speaker 2: You dare put Sam done on that list? I will

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Speaker 2: fucking fight you, you hear me? All right? Hold on?

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Speaker 4: I'm so I'm not stupid.

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Speaker 2: Are we doing the order or how are we doing these?

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Speaker 6: All?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's I'll give you my five and then

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Speaker 4: you give me yours?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me write down my five. My five

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Speaker 3: Hold on.

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Speaker 4: And it's so sad who was on this list?

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Speaker 2: It is so sad what your list has said. Well, Mike,

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Speaker 2: it's a fucking list of check quarterbacks. It's sad, That's

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Speaker 2: what I mean. It's your tough Yes, your top five said,

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Speaker 2: Pennington in a couple of years of Sanchez, I mean Jesus.

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Speaker 2: In fact, Sanchise might have to.

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Speaker 3: Go my love that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, a lot is like it. This is changing. My

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Speaker 2: have my top five? Are you ready? Are you want

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Speaker 2: to do yours first? Mike, let's go with your first.

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Speaker 4: I'm ten years younger than you, so my list is

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, number five. You're doing this in order.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing this in order, okay, for the sheer wow factor.

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Speaker 4: And you can't tell me this wasn't one of the

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Speaker 4: greatest days of your life. Brett Farv, Oh wow. Today

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Speaker 4: we got Brett Farv wow wow wow. And not only that,

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Speaker 4: I think we got off to an eight one star.

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Speaker 4: I thought we were in super verse. The first ten

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Speaker 2: That yeah, and then he got hurt, and then there

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Speaker 2: were reports that he was showing his penis to him

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Speaker 2: far of a bean, yes, exactly right, very good.

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Speaker 4: You got a number, Brett, you're twenty no pun intended,

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Speaker 4: all right? Number four Ken O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, good, yeah, number three. Here's the problem

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Speaker 2: wasn't in general. It should have been damn Marino.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yess the worst thing Ken O'Brien did, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Else.

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Speaker 4: Number two Boomer Assizsin.

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Speaker 2: Oh booms wow, booms is not on my legs? Oh

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Speaker 2: my god? On you list? Well, now, I might have

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Speaker 2: to take Kenny O'Brien off now because you used him

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Speaker 2: and put in and put booms in there. I got

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Speaker 2: who you got?

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Speaker 4: Number one? Our guests coming up, James Chadwick Pennington.

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Speaker 2: Well, Chadwick. So great, I mean it's so great.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Here's my top five okay, number one all time jet quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm starting with number one. It is our guest, Chad Pennington. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he is number one. Okay, Number two all time Jets

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Speaker 2: quarterback Richard Todd. Okay, Richard Todd back in the Shea

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Speaker 2: Stadium days, Johnny Lamb Jones, Wesley Walker, Mickey Schuler. That's

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Speaker 2: the team that hooked me in, Mike as the team.

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Speaker 2: They were just good enough to hook in twelve year

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Speaker 2: old boy from Long Island. Number three. I'll go Boomer

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Speaker 2: size it. Number four. I will go Mark Sanchez Sanchiz

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Speaker 2: back to back AFC Championship games. And there's no way, Mike.

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Speaker 2: He's a legend in New York. He's a football legend.

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Speaker 2: He's a legend in the sports community. There's no way

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Speaker 2: I'm leaving this man off the lesge. You left them

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Speaker 2: No way. There's no way, no way. Rounding out my

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Speaker 2: top five, of course, Tom Tupa, Yeah, that's Duponty.

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Speaker 2: Who play quarterback has when you get hurt? We welcome

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Speaker 2: in our friend, the greatest quarterback in Jet history, Chad

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Speaker 2: Patty Jad, How are you man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 2: How are you it's been a while. I haven't spoken

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Speaker 2: to you a long time, my friend. What's what's going

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Speaker 2: on with you? Man?

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Speaker 3: We're living in Lessning, Kentucky working for the Legs Community

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Speaker 3: coaching high schools football.

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Speaker 2: How's the how's the coaching stuff going? I coach my

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Speaker 2: daughter in lacrosse, So you're coaching two of your three sons.

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Speaker 2: How is that experience for you?

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Speaker 3: You know what, It's been really good, Stu. I really

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Speaker 3: enjoyed it. I grew up on a Friday night bus, so, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I was my dad's ball boy for his

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Speaker 3: high school teams and things like that. So it's something

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Speaker 3: that's kind of in my nature and my blood, and

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 2: One of your sons just really good his quarterback right right?

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Speaker 2: Does he already think he's better than you? Chad?

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Speaker 3: Well, he is definitely a better athlete than me. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you that.

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Speaker 2: It Is it harder playing or is it harder coaching

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Speaker 2: your son's I'm wondering Tree.

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Speaker 3: Rolins, Oh my gosh, it is so much harder coaching

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Speaker 3: because once you call the play, there's nothing you can

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Speaker 3: do about it. Right, your hands are tied behind your back.

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Speaker 3: You're just hoping. Oh my goodness, does he remember his footwork?

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Speaker 3: Does you remember his read? All those different things. It's

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Speaker 2: Reggie Bush. So, is there an example where you you've

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Speaker 2: given him a call it didn't work out, and son

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Speaker 2: walks off the field because dad is also coach? Coach

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Speaker 2: is also dad where he says Dad, a terrible play call? Yet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I get I get a great amount of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the world's worst at not Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: So what do you think? First off? Are you honored

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, when I heard you guys talking

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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations and mikey A. It was a very good

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Speaker 4: I mean, is there any desire to coach at any

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Speaker 2: That's really awesome. I wish you would coach the Jets

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Speaker 2: if I congratulations your first I think your first season,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting when you look at it

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Speaker 2: I think like the truly elite quarterback because people will

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Speaker 2: Do you have any issues with some of this stuff?

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Speaker 3: Here's why I don't have issue with it, because we're

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Speaker 2: Mike, you know what happened here We're talking to a

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Speaker 2: super Bowls. But Chat, I think your way is probably

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Speaker 4: Make one up if you have to.

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Speaker 3: The other point is this is that really when you

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Speaker 2: Can do that. Trey Lance. That was a very Chad

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Speaker 2: Eli Apple, here's the one that really intrigues me because

436
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 2: I thought he was the second best quarterback coming into

437
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: the Shraft and he has slipped justin fields.

438
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I agree with you, Stu. I

439
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: think he does a lot of really good things. I

440
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 3: think when he was asked to play his best football

441
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: in the playoffs this year, he did. He played out

442
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 3: standing versus Clemson, has very good technique, and so I

443
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: think for him it's just a matter of finding that

444
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: right organization being on that team. But he's a great prospect.

445
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't understand why he's kind of falling either, because

446
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: I think he brings a lot of really good things

447
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: to the table.

448
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 2: All right, and our guy, well it appears to be

449
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 2: our guy, our new guy, our newest quarterback, Zach Wilson.

450
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: I love what I've seen from Zach on film. I

451
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: looked at a little bit of the Coastal Carolina game.

452
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 3: He did some really good things of what we were

453
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: talking about, being able to move into pocket but stay

454
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: alive as a passer. Even though they lost that game,

455
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: I thought he did some really good things there. He's

456
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 3: twenty one, so we've got to remember, you know, twenty

457
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 3: one year olds. You can remember when you were twenty one,

458
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 3: would you be able to handle a billion dollar organization

459
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: on your shoulders? Probably not right, So just got to

460
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: be patient and making sure we have the right system

461
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: and structure around him for him to be successful. But

462
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: he certainly has the talent to do that.

463
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson coming from Utah to New York, you came

464
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: from Marshall to New York. What advice would you give him?

465
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 4: Robert E.

466
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 6: Kushman, Well, you know, first of all, to really be

467
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 6: secure with who you are as a quarterback, and to

468
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 6: understand what your strengths are, how to exploit those, how

469
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 6: to manage those weaknesses, and work on those weaknesses.

470
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 3: You know, from a media standpoint, be honest. But at

471
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: the same time, you know, make sure that you're constantly

472
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: working on your game. Don't get caught up into all

473
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: the thrills of it. Let your game do this talking

474
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: and really focus inside. I think it's inwardly first, and

475
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: then moving on to your teammates and your organization. It's

476
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: a fun place to play. You obviously got to know

477
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: how to handle it. But that comes to experience. So

478
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: any type of tutelage you can get from the outside

479
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 3: as far as handling media, learning, how to answer questions,

480
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 3: all of that stuff and being a professional I think

481
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 3: is really really important, especially when you're playing in New York.

482
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: John Candelaria the candy man, I hope the quarterback I

483
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: hope Zach realizes, or any quarterback that plays for the Jets,

484
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: the quarterback then actually goes out there and wins this

485
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: organization a super Bowl is going to be celebrated for

486
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: the rest of their lives, like like have to buy.

487
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 3: A drinking Imagine if he did it in year one,

488
00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 3: just retire and just forget about it after that. Exactly right?

489
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: That is exactly right?

490
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: All right.

491
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to put you on the spot here a

492
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: little bit. But assuming Trevor Lawrence is gone, right, so

493
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: that leaves Zach mac Jones, Trey Lance, justin fields. If

494
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: Chad Pennington was the GM of the New York Jets

495
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: and it was your decision and your decision alone, is

496
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: it Zach Wilson or would it be one of the

497
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: other guys.

498
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: I think it's all about how you view your offense

499
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: and what you what's your offense to do. You're going

500
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 3: to do some things differently with Zach than you will

501
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: with Mac Jones or Justin Fields. And then also you

502
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: know what's the cast around you as well. That's that's

503
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: really really important. Take Joe Flacco for instance, he had

504
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: a great cast around him when he was a rookie

505
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: and younger player, and then he just slowly evolved into

506
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 3: the guy to make those plays. That is really really

507
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: important making sure you don't put your young guy in

508
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: a tough position.

509
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 2: How does it feel, by the way, to be the

510
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: only quarterback between two thousand and two and twenty and

511
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 2: nineteen to win the AFC East other than Brady, Well,

512
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: that would be first on my resume.

513
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: It feels good, But I wish I could have stayed

514
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 3: healthy because I could have taken a couple more of

515
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: those away. I just really believe that.

516
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Wait, Johnny, if I told you Jad, hold on a second,

517
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: this is crazy. Just told to me. If I told

518
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: you back you retired in twenty ten. Right, If I

519
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: told you in two thousand and ten that in two

520
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: thousand and twenty one Brady would still be winning Super

521
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: Bowls and doing it with the Bucks, you would have

522
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: told me what.

523
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 3: Out of your ever living mind, I would probably ask

524
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: you student, step out of the studio. You lost your calling.

525
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: You need to go find you something else.

526
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: It is crazy, man, it is absolutely Can you speak

527
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 2: about him, like, just what is it about that individual

528
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: that makes him so great? Because you're playing against him, Chad,

529
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: you know him, I know well.

530
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 3: And I was able to One of my best friends

531
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 3: is Byron Leftwich, and so we talked a lot, and

532
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: I was it's interesting talking to him. What he has

533
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: been really impressed with. Number One, tom Bill loves the game,

534
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: and I think as veterans, you know at some point

535
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, I'm good with the game. I don't

536
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: love it anymore. He still loves it as far as

537
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: playing the game. The other thing I think that's interesting

538
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: is he keeps his thought process really simple and he

539
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: really whatever the play calls for, that's how he's going

540
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: to run the play, and he's not going to try

541
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: to do too much. And that's really hard to do

542
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: as a veteran, because as you gain more knowledge, sometimes

543
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 3: you fall into the trap of trying to do too

544
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: much with the play, and then it lends itself to

545
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: a negative play or disaster play. So I've been really

546
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: impressed with that. Number one is love of the game,

547
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: and then two just really keeping his thought process simple.

548
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 3: So if he's going to work on something, he's gonna

549
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: work on his accuracy or the type of ball. He's

550
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: not just going to try to change the read right,

551
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 3: and he's going whatever the play is called, that's how

552
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: he's going to run it. And that's why he's been

553
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: so successful. I mean, there's a lot to be said

554
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: just for any professional not to complicate your thought process.

555
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: If I came to you in twenty ten, it's at

556
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 2: chat eleven more years of this, what would you have

557
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: said to me.

558
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: For me personally after four shoulder surgeries?

559
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: No way, exactly right? All right, you have to tell

560
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: me about the time, because Mike mikey A has died

561
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: to know about this. Okay, we're both married. Tell us

562
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: about the time you brought the Jets playbook on your honeymoon. Well,

563
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: I mean I thought.

564
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: It was a perfectly reasonable decision. I felt like that, Hey,

565
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 3: if at the pool and she's reading GQ, I'm not

566
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: going to read So what's the difference in me reading

567
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: a Bass Pro magazine versus my playbook?

568
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: There is no difference.

569
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: She's not worried about the material anyway. At least I'm

570
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: spending some time with her side by side at the pool,

571
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to get better, that's all.

572
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: And by the way, GQ probably thicker than the Jets playbook.

573
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Was there a time where you were where you were

574
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: studying on the honeymoon? And she was like, did she

575
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: get frustrated on the honey And that's what I want

576
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: to know? God enough, okay, you got to play that. Yeah, no,

577
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: she's definitely. I tell you.

578
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: Where she gets frustrated with me now is like you know,

579
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: when you're playing, you condition yourself to block everything out right,

580
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: and everything goes silent and you just focused in eight

581
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: thousand people screaming, you don't even hear it. Well, unfortunately

582
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: I do that sometimes with her in the house, and

583
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: that is that's not a good formula because when she's

584
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: talking to me and I'm block it out and I

585
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: get focused on something else, I mean conditioned that way,

586
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to break that condition, which has been

587
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: quite the process.

588
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna get you out of here in

589
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. You've been great, Thank you. For

590
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: your time on just a couple of quick questions, true

591
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: or false fill in the blank. But before we get

592
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: to that weird game, the winner gets ten million dollars. Mike,

593
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Chad Pennington, Tom Brady at Dante Culpepper

594
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: as contestants. Okay, it's a weird game. Chad, the guy

595
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: who delivers the best story about Randy Moss wins ten

596
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: million dollars. Dad Pennington is pulling out one story about maus.

597
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, and what type of story are you

598
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: looking for?

599
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Well, it depends the best, but it depends how comfortable

600
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: you are. Whichever. If you want to go on field,

601
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: go on field. If you want to take an all field,

602
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: that's up to you, but you have to be comfortable

603
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: with it.

604
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: Well, I'll talk about his athleticism, which people you know,

605
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: they think they know, but I'm not so sure they do.

606
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: So one day, during two a days, we decide to

607
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: go to the gullets and halt and go to the

608
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: swimming pool and jump off the springboard. And so we're

609
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: all jumping off the springboard. Randy goes with us. First

610
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: time he gets up there, there's big six five frame

611
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: and just does a gainer just out of nowhere, and

612
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: everybody's like, wait a second, the dude, just do a gainer,

613
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: you know, like perfect?

614
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: Then he does it.

615
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 3: Then the second time he goes up and we're expecting

616
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 3: something and he does a normal dive and I'm like okay,

617
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: when mid air he flips his body over and turns

618
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: it into a back dive, and we're all just looking

619
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: at each other like, okay, Tom, you get out of

620
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: He not only shows us up on the football field,

621
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 3: he shows us up in the pool as well.

622
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: Are you telling us out of nowhere? Fucking Randy Moss

623
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: became an Olympic diver.

624
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, right out of nowhere.

625
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean, one of those things. He doesn't matter, remember,

626
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: twenty doesn't matter. He just makes it all look easy.

627
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's easily the greatest athlete you've ever

628
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: played with.

629
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: Right, without question, without question. I remember another story. A

630
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: week after we won the ONEAA championship in nineteen ninety six,

631
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: he practices one day in the blocks and goes down

632
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: to the Southern Conference indoor track meet. He wins the

633
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: fifty five meters and breaks the conference record, wins the

634
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 3: two hundred meters, breaks the conference record qualifies for the Nationals,

635
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: misses the Olympics by ten. I don't know what else say, man.

636
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: It really is all right, A quick a couple of

637
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: quick true or falses. We'll get you out of here

638
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: and maybe some fill in the blanks. Chad Pennington is

639
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in New York Jets history. True or false.

640
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: Well, if you're going by Super Bowls, that's deletely false, right,

641
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: you name it already, man.

642
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: Come on, I got you. Chad Pennington belonged to the

643
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. True or false.

644
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: That'd be a big false.

645
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's a big true. Let's let's get

646
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: that campaign going. All right, let's get a campaign going.

647
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: Let me differ Biselli, that worked too right? True or false?

648
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: The year you won the AFC East with the Dolphins

649
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: was the most fun you've ever had playing football.

650
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, And I'll say that because i'd just

651
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: been fired, by the way, and so you know, I'm

652
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: down in South Florida. But then we had a really,

653
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: really young team, and so to be able to watch

654
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: that team come together and formulate that bond and then

655
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: create history, I mean, going from one to fifteen to

656
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: eleven o five, it was That was especially. I had

657
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: a lot of fun, a lot of fun playing with

658
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: those young guys and being under a coach Soprano and

659
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: Dan Henning. It was just a lot of fun.

660
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: It was Roosevelt Potts, all right. So Jet fans relaxed

661
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: because Chad he played great for you, He was always

662
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: there for you. But he's right, he got fired because

663
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: they decided to go with Brett Farv And I was

664
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: down here in Miami obviously and saw that Dolphin team.

665
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: And that's how you and I became. I don't want

666
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: to say we're friends, but we became friends. We became close. Okay,

667
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: we're friends. Good, all right, here it's me Mike. Mike.

668
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: Mike is a new strategy. If I don't assume that

669
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: I'm friends with them, then that perhaps they'll call me

670
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: your friend. But Chad, that season was so special because

671
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: you had so many game when he drives like Mike,

672
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: they would the Dolphins would get the ball back five

673
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: six minutes left in the fourth quarter with a drive

674
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 2: to put the game away, and Pennington and that offense

675
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: put the game away every single time. It was a

676
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: fun season, man.

677
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was. There was just so many special moments,

678
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: the wildcast, all those different things that you know came

679
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: into that year, a lot of special moments for sure.

680
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. The best quarterback from this year's

681
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: draft will be blank.

682
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: Oh well, I think I think it's Lawrence. I think

683
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: when you look at him, really, let's look at this too.

684
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: He's handled the pressure situations really really well. He was

685
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: thrown right into the fire midway through his freshman year

686
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: and for the last two and a half years, all

687
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: eyes have been on him and he's performed well and

688
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: he's very smooth. I think he's got all the different tools.

689
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: Now it really depends on how Jacksonville builds that team

690
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: around him, builds that system for him. All. We sometimes

691
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: forget that. We try to measure these guys without thinking

692
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: of all those things that go involved to make a

693
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: quarterback successful.

694
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, chad Man, this was It was great catching up

695
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: with an old friend. I appreciate it. So thank you

696
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: for doing anything you want to promote Man. This has

697
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: been fantastic. It really has been well.

698
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: I tell you know, there's been a lot of talk

699
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: on what the NFL is doing for former players. I

700
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 3: will tell you su the NFL legens community is something

701
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: that has just been extraordinary. Been able to be a

702
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: part of it for the last seven and a half years.

703
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: And what the NFL is doing partnering with the PA

704
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: and working through the legens community to make sure that

705
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: our our legends, our former players have a successful transition

706
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: away from the game is amazing.

707
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: And with this new.

708
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: CBA, all the resources that have been put together for

709
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: former players has been amazing. And so just really creating

710
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: that community, that brotherhood and allowing these guys this is

711
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 3: their new team, the NFL Legens community, this is their

712
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: new team to help them be successful with them and

713
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: their families. So I've been really enjoyed being a part

714
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: of that.

715
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: That is awesome. That is a great job by you.

716
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Is there a way that fans could help? Is there

717
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: is there opportunities for fans to help with that or no?

718
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: You know what, I think the best thing that fan

719
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: can do is when they see a former player and

720
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: they watch them they were fans, and then go up

721
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: and say hello and say how I really enjoyed watching play.

722
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: That to me means a lot to me because you know,

723
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 3: when you're playing, you're in the grind and you hear

724
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 3: so much negativity when you're done playing and a fan

725
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: comes up and goes, you know what, you are my

726
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: favorite player. I really enjoyed what you did on the fields.

727
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: That really means a lot to a former player that

728
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 3: someone actually cared and paid attention to what was going

729
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 3: on and really sees the contribution that he gave back.

730
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: That's the game. I think that's important.

731
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: Chad. I will speak on behalf of both me and Mikey. Hey,

732
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: thank you for everything you did on the field, my friends.

733
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: Thank you.

734
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: Keep up the great work. I want to catch up

735
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: again soon. In fact, I'm thinking for the next high

736
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: school season we do a weekly coaches show with.

737
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: You, Okay, all right, Yes, you'll taste the media, yes,

738
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: and then we'll get your snots.

739
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: We'll get your snot no son on the tolles. I'm radious, Chad.

740
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for doing this. Man, it was

741
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: great seeing you and great catching up that.

742
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: All right, Thank you guys.

743
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: Holy shit, Mike, that was wonderful. Wonderful. You and I

744
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: just got a chance a couple of Jet fans cutting

745
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: up with the greatest Jet quarterback of all time. You

746
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: enjoyed that, Huh? That was awesome. That was fantastic. Listen,

747
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: you are glowing. You are radiant, okay, like, and I

748
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: see there are tears coming from your your eyes are

749
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: very red. Way to second, Yeah, wait a second. Nothing

750
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: to do with Pennington. Every It's four twenty Stemodity, South

751
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: Korean long distance runner lead Bong Jew speaking of bongs

752
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: and Jews. This Jew is going to hit his bong

753
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: right now. Stupidity