Speaker 1: How I Suck At Dating with Denungler and Jared Haven
Speaker 1: and I heard radio podcast What's going On? Everyone? Welcome
Speaker 1: to Thursday's special caller edition of Help I Suck At Dating.
Speaker 1: If you haven't already, be sure to go back and
Speaker 1: listen to Sunday's episode because we have Shoshana mccutcheen. That
Speaker 1: wasn't my That wasn't my best, but I'm trying. My
Speaker 1: heart is really good. We had her on the episode
Speaker 1: with us, Thank you, and she's fantastic. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: want to miss that. We have her again here today
Speaker 1: to help us handle some callers that are calling in
Speaker 1: with some dating questions. Um, looks like, actually we already
Speaker 1: have our first caller in the room with us. Emma,
Speaker 1: how are you? Can you hear me? Yes, I can
Speaker 1: hear you. I'm good. How are you great? Oh? I'm
Speaker 1: so good? Thank you so much for asking. UM, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Emma? Well? I had to leave a date
Speaker 1: with a guy I really like. I Uh, I thought
Speaker 1: I was going to my pants, I know, embarrassing. I
Speaker 1: was so ready to go home with him after dinner.
Speaker 1: I wore imagining set, I shaved everything and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden alarm bells went off, and I knew if
Speaker 1: I didn't leave right then, I was literally going to
Speaker 1: ship my pants. Okay, interesting, So so what did you do?
Speaker 1: So now he thinks that you know, it was a
Speaker 1: problem with him, and I don't know how to reassure
Speaker 1: him that it was not in any way his fault
Speaker 1: that I left. I don't know how to handle this.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to keep seeing him. He checks
Speaker 1: all my boxes. And can I ask you a question? Sure?
Speaker 1: What was the read like when you you said he laughed?
Speaker 1: Did you explain anything? Did you say anything? Are you
Speaker 1: just like peep out? I'm out. I said that my
Speaker 1: mom called and I had to go help her with something,
Speaker 1: and I know it was kind of a stupid lie,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what to say in the moment.
Speaker 1: I just really needed to use the bathroom. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you want to go first? And you want me kind
Speaker 1: of say what I was excited. I was excited to
Speaker 1: hear what you're going to say, because I I just
Speaker 1: think it's funny. I know it's like there is a
Speaker 1: little more gravitass to the situation, but I want to
Speaker 1: hear what you have to say first. To be honest, Like,
Speaker 1: I think he would appreciate this the most. Like if
Speaker 1: you do reach out and say, hey, do you remember
Speaker 1: this time when we were on a date. Um, I
Speaker 1: kind of want to say, like there's something that I
Speaker 1: was a little bit dishonest with you, and you would
Speaker 1: totally understand why. And I would just literally say exactly
Speaker 1: what you told us exactly. I think he would. I
Speaker 1: love that so much. You would appreciate it so much
Speaker 1: because there's nothing embarrassing, absolutely nothing, It's a natural thing.
Speaker 1: I think it will be like a cool story how
Speaker 1: you guys mad and what actually happened and why you
Speaker 1: have to leave? All right? I think I could Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with that. I think it's you
Speaker 1: could take like a humorous approach to it. It is
Speaker 1: like a little embarrassing obviously, but I think if you
Speaker 1: tell him that and you can kind of gauge his reaction,
Speaker 1: Like if he laughs about it, great, that's kind of
Speaker 1: what you're hoping for. And if he, for some reason,
Speaker 1: crazy unbeknownst to me, he like has a bad reaction
Speaker 1: to it, then it's like, okay, well maybe if you
Speaker 1: had a sense of humor, this could be more of
Speaker 1: a thing. But I think it's kind of like a
Speaker 1: win win. It's like a way to like kind of
Speaker 1: vet him a little bit, you know, like a filter process.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't think you should be like
Speaker 1: ashamed of it at all. It happens to everyone. I
Speaker 1: think it's hilarious and I think that it's great that
Speaker 1: you can call in and laugh about it now. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think I think you just tell him
Speaker 1: and be like, this is the situation, I'm sorry, let's
Speaker 1: try again, or something like that, you know. Definitely, thank you, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: best of luck. We hope you maybe take some uh
Speaker 1: what's the one that like blocks you off? There's x
Speaker 1: lax that that loosens you up, and then there's the
Speaker 1: other one. I don't know what it is to take
Speaker 1: some of that beforehand, maybe some pepto bismol and and
Speaker 1: give it another shot and I'm sure it'll be great.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Thanks Emma. That was good advice. Shshanna,
Speaker 1: well done. Um. Next up, we have Mia. That's funny
Speaker 1: because Hannas said we have am i A. So I
Speaker 1: didn't think that Mia was going to be joining us,
Speaker 1: but it's Mia is joining us. Can you hear me? Hi,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. How are you doing good?
Speaker 1: How about you good? Thank you for asking? What's going on?
Speaker 1: Not too much, justin joined the day, just getting some
Speaker 1: stuff done? Nice? Well what can we help you with? So? Okay,
Speaker 1: my question for you guys is is hiking on a
Speaker 1: first date a good idea? Absolutely? Yeah, I knew Shoshanna
Speaker 1: was going to be in the vein of that. I agree. Um,
Speaker 1: is there more of the question or is that the
Speaker 1: only question? So basically, there's this guy that I've known
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Um, but we decide it
Speaker 1: to you know, maybe try going on a one on one.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a date, but you know, um, And
Speaker 1: so the plans to hike for like a solid day. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's like a hard hike, but both of us are
Speaker 1: in really good shape. Um. But I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: it would be weird as like a first one on
Speaker 1: one date or hang out I guess um or I
Speaker 1: don't know what you guys think. I think any type
Speaker 1: of date where you have something to do other than
Speaker 1: talk to each other is great. And hiking is kind
Speaker 1: of that same way where it's like you can like
Speaker 1: when you're hiking, it's perfectly normal to just kind of
Speaker 1: be quiet and like enjoy the hike. And so if
Speaker 1: there's ever like a little in the conversation, it's not
Speaker 1: that big of a deal versus like if you're sitting
Speaker 1: at a coffee table and no one says anything for
Speaker 1: five minutes, gets kind of awkward. So I think hiking
Speaker 1: is one of the best first dates you can have
Speaker 1: because you're outside, you're in nature, You've got to talk
Speaker 1: to each other and still got to experience each other's
Speaker 1: company and like bet each other in that sense. Um,
Speaker 1: I think hiking is one of the best for states
Speaker 1: you could kind of think of you. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I've done in multiple times. The one thing that like
Speaker 1: you did mention, Like you guys both arow in really
Speaker 1: good shape and you go for something really like a
Speaker 1: hard a difficult hike to do for me, Um, I
Speaker 1: think that's probably sometimes not the best choice, just because
Speaker 1: like you out of breath and you like try to
Speaker 1: get to know the person, um, and it's not always
Speaker 1: you can talk unless you're like taking a little short breaks,
Speaker 1: you know, to have a snack a water and then
Speaker 1: you to catch up on your broath, you know, and Chad,
Speaker 1: But it's I guess it's personal preference. If you both
Speaker 1: want to go hard and just do it, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It's something definitely to go back and remember, like your
Speaker 1: first day one on one was on a really cool hike,
Speaker 1: but I personally prefer like something a little bit more,
Speaker 1: probably less challenging, and just so you can still be outside,
Speaker 1: so still the outdoorsy stuff and also get to know
Speaker 1: each other and have a little chad you know, mm hmm, totally. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm super competitive and intense in that way. So hiking
Speaker 1: to me is you know, I love it? Um, I
Speaker 1: think you know. Another thing I was thinking about is
Speaker 1: like we're going to be stuck on this hike, you know,
Speaker 1: in the middle of the in the middle of nowhere
Speaker 1: for however many hours? Is that like what if if
Speaker 1: something goes wrong or we end up like not really
Speaker 1: getting along one on one, I'm like stuck with him.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think about that? Yeah? What do
Speaker 1: you think? Because I think the girl's perspective is more important,
Speaker 1: and so that's what I'm saying, Like, I'm very competitive too,
Speaker 1: but then I don't want to put someone else who
Speaker 1: like said he's very competitive, and then we both like
Speaker 1: trying to like challenge herself on the first day, so
Speaker 1: I would probably, like, like I said, I probably my
Speaker 1: advice would be just maybe pick something like a shorter
Speaker 1: you know, maybe two or three hours and um, and
Speaker 1: if you see that really goes, then you can do
Speaker 1: something very long and like spend more time with each
Speaker 1: other instead of just like being in silence and hiking
Speaker 1: for ten hours, you know, so maybe shorter hike, something
Speaker 1: more comfortable for both of you. Then you can just
Speaker 1: take a break and enjoy the nature, you know, to
Speaker 1: spend a good time together instead of just like trying
Speaker 1: to compete for who's about a hiker all the day
Speaker 1: or something. Just just don't go hike campbellback, according to Shoshana,
Speaker 1: because it's too challenging. But um mai, thank you for
Speaker 1: calling in. We appreciate it. Best of luck and sounds
Speaker 1: like a good first date in my opinion. Thank you
Speaker 1: guys so much. I agree, Thank you. Thanks all right,
Speaker 1: Next up, we have Casson. I believe is the name.
Speaker 1: Can you hear me Casson? I can, yes, Thank you
Speaker 1: guys so much for taking my call. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in. Am I saying the name right,
Speaker 1: is it? Yes? Yes? Nice unique name. I love it.
Speaker 1: It's very what's going on? How how can we so? Uh?
Speaker 1: So this girl, you know, I like, um, she never
Speaker 1: texts first. You know. We we've gone out on three dates. UM,
Speaker 1: no sex so far. Um, we've made out heavily, but
Speaker 1: that's it, you know. Um, but this girl never texts first.
Speaker 1: And I don't like that, you know? And do you
Speaker 1: think that would mean that she's not very interested? And
Speaker 1: do you guys think that the guys should always initiate?
Speaker 1: And if so, for how long? Yeah? Well, Sean, I
Speaker 1: went first last time? So how you go first this time? Him? So,
Speaker 1: I always have like whenever people ask me questions, this
Speaker 1: is we're I'm going to asking questions. So whenever you
Speaker 1: do ask her to go on a date, does she
Speaker 1: say yes? Or does it take her time, like to
Speaker 1: like a long time to get back and think about it. No,
Speaker 1: on the three dates she's she said yes right away. Okay,
Speaker 1: I I think there's um, I mean, it looks like
Speaker 1: she's interested. So if um, um like having a hard time,
Speaker 1: do you want her to text you for? Do you
Speaker 1: want her to ask you to go on a date? Like?
Speaker 1: That's one of the questions like what do you like?
Speaker 1: What do you want her to? I guess to do?
Speaker 1: Have you tried to express that? Would you know what
Speaker 1: is missing there? I guess between you two. So I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously it's still new, you know, but for me, I would,
Speaker 1: I would. It's it's nice to be, um, it's nice
Speaker 1: to feel like I'm being chased, as well as as
Speaker 1: the chase, you know, the chasy so you know, so
Speaker 1: I guess that's kind of what I'm hoping for, is
Speaker 1: a you know, maybe a little bit more back and forth.
Speaker 1: But I also know that, you know, it's also new.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm being eager, you know. I feel like, how
Speaker 1: about you just like literally ignore her for a few
Speaker 1: days and see how she feels that. Like, I think
Speaker 1: the girls are really weird when we see like someone
Speaker 1: who's texting, Oh, like he's text and he's texting, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll say yes, I'll go, and then suddenly like there's
Speaker 1: no text it's been a day, one, day two. Then
Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, Okay, let me see what's
Speaker 1: going on, you know, like maybe you should give like
Speaker 1: that little space, um, just to see if she's really interested.
Speaker 1: She will text you. Yeah, that's true. I do gotta
Speaker 1: say I can empathize with you, Casson, because I have
Speaker 1: been in a situation many times in my life where
Speaker 1: I really like a girl, but I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: the only one making an initiative to hang out. And
Speaker 1: it's a crappy feeling, and in a lot of ways
Speaker 1: to it kind of like makes you more interested in
Speaker 1: them because you're like, well, why doesn't she text me first?
Speaker 1: Why does she never want to plan dates? And so
Speaker 1: you kind of like go above and beyond. But I
Speaker 1: agree with Shashana, like, maybe uh, take a take a
Speaker 1: take a couple of days off of texting her and
Speaker 1: see if she reaches out, and if she doesn't, then
Speaker 1: like maybe you kind of have your answer. But also
Speaker 1: like it's not that crazy to like speak up and
Speaker 1: say something, you know, like if you want her to
Speaker 1: be more proactive in terms of planning those things you
Speaker 1: like on your next day, you could be like, well,
Speaker 1: I just wish you know, you would take the initiative sometimes,
Speaker 1: Like that's not that farfetchittive an idea, I don't think, um,
Speaker 1: But I do want to say that I empathize with
Speaker 1: your situation because it's not a fun one to be
Speaker 1: in and especially like if you really like the person,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you want them to
Speaker 1: like you back as much as you like them. So
Speaker 1: I think that, like she Shawna said, take a couple
Speaker 1: of days, don't text and see if she responds. And
Speaker 1: if she, I'm sorry doesn't doesn't respond, but see if
Speaker 1: she like takes the initiative on her her own, and
Speaker 1: if she doesn't, then you can kind of like keep pursuing.
Speaker 1: Of course, I don't think that's like a reason to
Speaker 1: stop pursuing, but I do think it it kind of
Speaker 1: helps put into perspective like maybe she's not making you
Speaker 1: as much of a priority as you'd like to be,
Speaker 1: and that could change over time, but in the in
Speaker 1: the immediate future, like it's maybe something that you should consider,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I agree. I feel like just to
Speaker 1: add to that too. So taking that like a few
Speaker 1: days break, um, if you see like she's actually not
Speaker 1: getting back to her, like you can always send a
Speaker 1: text and say, hey, I haven't heard from you for
Speaker 1: a few days. I hope you're doing well. If you
Speaker 1: have any time or you know, you hang out or
Speaker 1: like you're interested, like let me know and if you see,
Speaker 1: like it depends on her response to if she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, something being happening blah blah blah. I feel
Speaker 1: like communication if you, um, if you're missing that, it's
Speaker 1: so hard to keep asking for someone to communicate with you,
Speaker 1: and UM, invest some time and you so it probably
Speaker 1: will be for you to decide what you know, if
Speaker 1: you want to move forward with that person or not.
Speaker 1: But definitely give some time. And if she doesn't reach out,
Speaker 1: then reach out and kind of express yourself like being said,
Speaker 1: and see where that goes. Yeah, okay, perfect I I
Speaker 1: that's a great idea and I really appreciate you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, cass And thanks so much for calling and
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Best of luck with the situation. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you get all figured out. Thanks so much again.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Right, all right, Well that's gonna do it
Speaker 1: for Thursday's call. Her episode of Help I Suck at Dating,
Speaker 1: Shoshana absolutely crushed it. Um. Thank you so much, Shanna
Speaker 1: for guests, I was seeing these last two episodes with us.
Speaker 1: You've been fantastic. I want to get out to Salt
Speaker 1: Lake with Kaylin and we can all go skiing or climbing.
Speaker 1: My friends would love to have you guys here. Have
Speaker 1: a really big group of people that do a lot
Speaker 1: of adventures and go to National Park. So please visit
Speaker 1: any time. Nice, do you I take it you ski, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you live so close to the mon I snow worried,
Speaker 1: but I haven't been. I didn't. Yes, I've tried this
Speaker 1: year after fourteen year skiing, and I saw it. It
Speaker 1: was terrifying. It's so terrifying. But I'm going to try
Speaker 1: this year. So we'll see. Well, as long as you're
Speaker 1: having fun, because Kaylin is just learning as well, and I, um,
Speaker 1: I try to have patience with her as she learns,
Speaker 1: but it can be challenging sometimes. So maybe you know,
Speaker 1: you guys can go up together. Well, she's she's good.
Speaker 1: I'm under under I guess telling how how good she
Speaker 1: is for how little she ski. So it would be
Speaker 1: great if we could all get out there and ski
Speaker 1: or something and maybe when the weather warms up, in
Speaker 1: the climate or something. And I feel like breweries, Um,
Speaker 1: we have Willi Co brewers in Utah too, so like,
Speaker 1: so we can do that. I meant to ask you
Speaker 1: actually on Sunday's episode. Um, because Utah is pretty well
Speaker 1: known for its Mormon population. Have you noticed any like
Speaker 1: is there any like like drawbacks of living in a
Speaker 1: state like that, because I know, like the Mormons don't
Speaker 1: drink alcohol as much and they don't tend to like
Speaker 1: go out on Friday nights and stuff like that. Has
Speaker 1: that ever been like a roadblock for you in terms
Speaker 1: of dating? People will probably judge me for this, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't say, you know, elthings a Mormon on your
Speaker 1: driver license right with you buy alcohol? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: so no, absolutely not. I think it's like a religion
Speaker 1: is religion. That doesn't I mean yet there's like restriction
Speaker 1: in terms of like you cannot have I alcohol. All
Speaker 1: the liquor stores closed on Sundays. Um. But I mean
Speaker 1: if you want to from I don't know, want to
Speaker 1: just started day, everything is open, right, It's pretty successible
Speaker 1: in that way. But no, absolutely not not interrom some
Speaker 1: dating not ine term so um, going out and drinking
Speaker 1: everything is pretty much the same. I'm actually impressed, like
Speaker 1: how many breweries we have in Salt Lake, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're pretty good ones too, So yeah, nice, that's
Speaker 1: good to know. All I know is Caitlin's uncle moved
Speaker 1: to St. George, which I think the LDS per capita
Speaker 1: is a little higher than Salt Lake. And he lived
Speaker 1: there for a year and he was like, I can't
Speaker 1: do it anymore. I gotta get out of here. Different.
Speaker 1: I love Salt Lake. Yeah, yeah, Saint George is different.
Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little uh not necessarily in
Speaker 1: the like the in the uh what am I trying
Speaker 1: to stay like in the farmlands more? But it is.
Speaker 1: It is definitely a little bit different. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love I love Utah just as a state. It
Speaker 1: is one of the most beautiful states in my opinion,
Speaker 1: in the entire country most definitely. But um but yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get in touch. Hopefully we can ski or climber
Speaker 1: or hiker do something in the near future. But thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. We appreciate it, and
Speaker 1: hopefully this podcast leads to some of your gym members
Speaker 1: finally taking the initiative and approaching I hope I'm not
Speaker 1: going to be overwhelmed. Just I am a feeling you
Speaker 1: are going to be overwhelmed. There's gonna be countless guys
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit to get to you. Um, but
Speaker 1: thank you again so much. Get those fingers healed. Best
Speaker 1: of luck in your competition, and we'll talk to you soon.
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