WEBVTT - Shanice

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<v Speaker 1>R and D Money.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the child. We are the authority on.

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<v Speaker 3>R ladies and get her name was Tank and this

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you got the same clothes on. You do too,

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<v Speaker 1>I do too.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying something because you know we

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<v Speaker 3>had we had flexing here earlier. But I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be a problem if we don't get the

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<v Speaker 3>better half in here, if we don't get that real

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<v Speaker 3>ar they sing in here, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take this my fuck up lady, And she pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out Yes she did, shine up, she smiling, she smiling.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you. Yeah, I'm so excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>You have you have one of the coldest, like craziest,

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<v Speaker 3>awesomest smiles of all times.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Like of all times.

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<v Speaker 4>You just gotta be a mean person. If she smiles

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<v Speaker 4>at you know, you don't smile by you're mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. It's so funny. I came up with the

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<v Speaker 2>title of the song, and I co wrote it with

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<v Speaker 2>naughta Michael Walden and his team. And I came up

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<v Speaker 2>with that title because I used to get laughed at

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<v Speaker 2>in school because they said I smiled too much. They said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're always smiling. And so when Narda asked me to

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<v Speaker 2>write down a title for a song, I wrote down

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<v Speaker 2>I love your smile. And then that's how we started

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<v Speaker 2>forming the song from that title.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're gonna get into it. Yeah, it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like every time I see you, it's like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>life is all right.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as you walked into that, just like this,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Like and I smile a lot, right, but your smile

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<v Speaker 3>is different. Your smile is like it's radiant, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. It like it like commands good energy

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<v Speaker 3>and like holiness. It's like like when you smile the

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<v Speaker 3>lord walk in the room, you see your smile.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I did that. I gave you a smile, so

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<v Speaker 1>like you're awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>You you're beautiful and and we want to of course

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<v Speaker 3>want to give you your flowers and and and give

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<v Speaker 3>you your your this you know, this is this is

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<v Speaker 3>your moment too, to lack of a better word, no pun,

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<v Speaker 3>intent to flex. Yes, today is your day to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you are nice. You are you are cool, come

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<v Speaker 3>and collective, you are a consummate professional you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that is a sad you know that's about

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<v Speaker 1>the trap side. Yeah, so we want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>We really, we really would love to start at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning of my beginning, of the beginning of you

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<v Speaker 3>with me. When do you identify this gift or who identifies.

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<v Speaker 1>It for you?

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<v Speaker 2>So my mom sings. As a matter of fact, she's

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<v Speaker 2>now in the group the emotions. She sings with the

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<v Speaker 2>emotions Emotions, So yeah, she's one of the emotions. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>They just did that big festival with Diana Ross and everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>So I come from a musical family. My mom and

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<v Speaker 2>my aunt, We're all from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and my mom

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<v Speaker 2>and my aunt had singing group. My dad would play

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<v Speaker 2>the guitar and my aunt my mom would sing, and

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<v Speaker 2>my mom would She sang the whole nine months while

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<v Speaker 2>she was pregnant with me. And so when I was

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<v Speaker 2>seven months, I came out singing like we live really

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<v Speaker 2>have it on cassette. My first song was telling Me

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<v Speaker 2>Something Good by Sha Ka Khan, I Want to Know

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<v Speaker 2>by Elden John and Jogo Boogie by calling the Gang.

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<v Speaker 2>And I couldn't talk, but I had the melody down

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<v Speaker 2>pack at seven months, so I just came out singing,

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<v Speaker 2>just hearing all that music the whole time, and my

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<v Speaker 2>dad would play guitar to her stomach. And at the

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<v Speaker 2>age of three, my mom put me on stage for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time with her her group, and I performed

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<v Speaker 2>on stage for the first time at three. And at

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<v Speaker 2>the age of eight, we left Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and we

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<v Speaker 2>moved to California because my mom and my aunt wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to pursue their singing careers. When we got to California,

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<v Speaker 2>when I got off the Greyhound bus, wander.

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<v Speaker 1>From that's it's the Greyhound.

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<v Speaker 2>We took the Greyhound.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, listen, all you new artists.

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<v Speaker 2>We got on the Greyhound.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know nothing because I've been on the

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<v Speaker 4>Greyhound before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it took like three days.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It was terrible, but as a kid, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a little bit bigger space.

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<v Speaker 4>You better be back on that bus before they take

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<v Speaker 4>off that pitstop or you will be stuck in some

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<v Speaker 4>random city.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was. It was not a great ride, but

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<v Speaker 2>my mom wanted to. They said we're going to go

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<v Speaker 2>either to California or New York because they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, pursue their careers. When we got off the

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<v Speaker 2>greyhound bus, wandered from the Emotions picked me up. She's

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<v Speaker 2>my auntie, she picked me up. Yeah, she's she's the

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<v Speaker 2>least singer of the Emotions. The best of my life. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like mine, like I've known since I was a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she picked us up from the Greyhound station.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember getting off the bus saying, where's Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson because I heard that Hollywood had starts, so I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking around for Michael Jackson. And you have to

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<v Speaker 2>really watch what you asked for because my dream as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid was to meet Michael Jackson. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get to that. But I told my mom, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to sing too. So they found me a and

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<v Speaker 2>I started going out on auditions, you know, for commercials

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. And my first audition I went on was

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<v Speaker 2>I had to scat with Ela Fitzgerald in the Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>Fried Chicken commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your first audience.

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<v Speaker 2>I sang with el Fitzgerald when I was eight years

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<v Speaker 2>old in a Kentucky Fried Chicken commercial. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>like my first big thing. And then after that I

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<v Speaker 2>did Star Search one Star Search at eleven years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was in a musical called Get Happy,

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<v Speaker 2>and the musical was about the music of Harold Arlean.

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<v Speaker 2>I sang some of the Rainbow in that musical and

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<v Speaker 2>John McClain, who is over Michael Jackson's estate, heard me.

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<v Speaker 2>He came to hear me perform because he heard about

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<v Speaker 2>me and signed me to AEM Records when I was

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<v Speaker 2>eleven years old. So that's how it all. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>it all started.

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<v Speaker 1>Why she's been smiling since she was.

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<v Speaker 4>Calling me Matael Jackson. Okay, well you know John McLain

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<v Speaker 4>sign you got eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>John McClain signed me eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 4>After you win Star Search though, because this is another

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<v Speaker 4>thing talk about it. Star Search was like American Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>Star Search was If you want Star Search, you were

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<v Speaker 4>the real deal, because it's so many people's stories that

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<v Speaker 4>talk about being on Star Search.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know I did Star Search.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody does to say when I won, I want Star

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<v Speaker 2>Search twice Actually okay, but I want the finale.

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<v Speaker 1>So you won the you said the finale.

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<v Speaker 2>The finale, I learned the.

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<v Speaker 1>The big one when all the winners come back.

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<v Speaker 3>So you beat you beat your heat and then you

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<v Speaker 3>beat the combined Winner's.

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<v Speaker 1>Heat aka Thanos. I'm a smile, a smile and so

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<v Speaker 1>it don't hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when John McClain signed me, I get in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio. Do you know Richard Rudolph, Dick Rudolph, He

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<v Speaker 2>was married to Minnie Ripperton. They wrote Loving You Together

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<v Speaker 2>and everything. So I got in a studio with him

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<v Speaker 2>and he introduced me to Tina Marie. And I'm eleven

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<v Speaker 2>years old working with Tina Marie at eleven years old,

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<v Speaker 2>so she was like one of the first producers that

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with was Tina Marie at eleven years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And I recorded a whole album when I first signed,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jon McClain didn't use the label A and M

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<v Speaker 2>didn't use that album. We had to re record the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing because I started to get older, my voice

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<v Speaker 2>started changing. He's so Brian Laren produced and wrote my

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<v Speaker 2>first album, which was called Discovery, and it came out

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<v Speaker 2>in eighty seven, So I had an album out before

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<v Speaker 2>I Love Your Smile, Yeah, in eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah no, And it's funny because I know of that time, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I remember it's like very reminisce of like a

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<v Speaker 4>younger Janet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, that's what well, Brian loren, I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of had like a he kind of put that

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<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis Yeah sound on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you had to know, no half stepping record.

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<v Speaker 2>We had no half stepping yeah signed baby Yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no half step in and and and and Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the thing. I was signed in Janet. Janet's Control

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<v Speaker 2>came out in eighty six and I came out eighty

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<v Speaker 2>It was m all label mates, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be very careful about my image and everything because I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to have my own look, my own thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>it had nothing to do with Janet. But the hairstylist

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<v Speaker 2>I told her, I said, I wanted to wear my

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<v Speaker 2>hair straight because Janet is wearing her hair curly and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in control, and I didn't want to look

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<v Speaker 2>like Janet. So she does my hair straight and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whispy towards my face. I shot my album cover and

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks later I went to Jane's Pleasure principal video

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<v Speaker 2>and she had the same exact hair. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh. So when my album came out, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was at the time was saying, you're trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>like janeted and I'm like, I'm not trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>like Janet.

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<v Speaker 4>I was trying not to, but people don't understand the

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<v Speaker 4>behind the scenes and how that goes. Yeah, and a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the same hairstylists, a lot of same makeup artists,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of different people that are like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, I just tried this on this

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<v Speaker 1>young girl and it would look good. It would look good.

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<v Speaker 2>On you, right, that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Though all Yeah, in our business, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>the more the bigger star gets it off first, it

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<v Speaker 3>automatically looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>It belongs to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Never it never came from you. Who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you originated something?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I had to at eleven. That was really

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<v Speaker 2>hard for me at the time. I was fourteen. By

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<v Speaker 2>the time the album finally came out, I was fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So you signed for three years?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I worked on songs for three I actually

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<v Speaker 2>worked with Ricky Bell and Rolph Trustman from New Addition

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<v Speaker 2>had a song, yeah, and Tina Marie and Leon Ware

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. I worked with a lot of people on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And were you in school or I was still in school? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So I went out homeschooling you yet No, I would

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<v Speaker 2>still go to school, come home, and after school go

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<v Speaker 2>to the studio, you know, so, and that's how it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those are the days. Yeah, that's that's the real development.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I wasn't, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't start doing my thing until later in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can just only imagine, like we were offered

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<v Speaker 3>a deal when Janet was on Virgin.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in tenth grade to be part of that

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<v Speaker 1>label and to be like a boys to men kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Wow. We were like, we have to say, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't have.

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<v Speaker 2>You a gospel groups.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done too much. Man. I was so stupid. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at me now when we.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>But it just didn't happen for me, you know, till later.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really didn't, you know, get any of the

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<v Speaker 3>I was a singer in high school, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>a popular guy in high school. But it's different being

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<v Speaker 3>famous in high school, like having an album out and

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<v Speaker 3>and and knowing, you know, labelmates with Janet signed with

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Jackson's people like us going to high.

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<v Speaker 4>School with that on you that's different.

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<v Speaker 1>Had you done kids Incorporated it?

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<v Speaker 2>I did Kids Incorporated? That was before I had my deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, so what this is the thing with

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<v Speaker 2>Kids Incorporated. I auditioned to be one of the singers

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<v Speaker 2>on the show and I got you know, they picked

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<v Speaker 2>me and everything, so I was excited. I'm thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be able to sing on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And then once I got the part, they decided to

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<v Speaker 2>make me the keyboard player and a backup dancer, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a professional dancer, but I can get I

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<v Speaker 2>can you know, I have good rhythm, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a professional dancer. Make a long story short. I did

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<v Speaker 2>the first season with them, and they they didn't let

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<v Speaker 2>me sing. They just would not let me sing. So

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<v Speaker 2>my mom pulled me out of the show because I

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<v Speaker 2>was really hurt about not singing. Yeah so that's wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah they didn't let me sing.

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<v Speaker 2>But right after I left Kids Incorporated, that's when everything happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I got my deal, you know, so it was a

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<v Speaker 2>blessing in disguise. I'm glad I left because I was

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, I got signed right after what it

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<v Speaker 2>Hayden was well, I'm not going to say anyone's name,

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<v Speaker 2>but I found out actually a few years ago, I

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<v Speaker 2>found out that there was a person on the show

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<v Speaker 2>that said, if you guys let her sing, then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to quit the show. And I and at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I was only like maybe ten years old. This person

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<v Speaker 2>was a teenager and I'm like, I was way younger

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<v Speaker 2>than her, I said, heart but I but this is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Yeah, boy, I found out because Rassan and

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<v Speaker 2>I are like, we're like best friends. That's like my

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<v Speaker 2>family was on the show as well, so it wasn't Rasan,

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I found out. The person who created the

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<v Speaker 2>show mentioned to someone that that's what the case was. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the case he was handing out. So they

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<v Speaker 2>were hating on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that deal? You know, they're they're singers and they're

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<v Speaker 1>sing girl with the smiles one song.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, I found out that that's why I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to sing on the show. And that was heartbreaking to here.

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<v Speaker 2>So but then I got my deal and everything you

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<v Speaker 2>know from the from then on was great. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I signed with A and M. I came you know,

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<v Speaker 2>did that, and then I left an them because John

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<v Speaker 2>McCain left the company. So then I left after John

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<v Speaker 2>McClain left.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is this is you had put your first

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<v Speaker 1>album out right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, after Kids Incorporated, I could sign my deal

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<v Speaker 2>and then it was took some years because we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find out find the direction. And then at age fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the studio with Brian Laren. He did the

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<v Speaker 2>whole album and then and then that came out in

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Then how did it do? How were you feeling it?

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<v Speaker 2>It did well? Like I think, I think, can you dance? Might?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was number one? I think I had

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<v Speaker 2>the number one I believe, yeah, right, yeah, so it did?

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<v Speaker 2>It did well after yeah, after the first single, they

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<v Speaker 2>really pushed the first single, and then it seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>after the first single, like you know how labels like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it seemed like they didn't push it

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<v Speaker 2>as hard after the first single. But I did get

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<v Speaker 2>to travel the world, like during that time, I was

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<v Speaker 2>all over Europe and Japan and at fourteen, yeah, at fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I was traveling all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly not in school no more.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a tutor. So when I did have to travel,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd have a tutor on the road, and then then

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<v Speaker 2>after the road, I just go right back to school.

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<v Speaker 2>They would just give me all my work.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to regular school.

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<v Speaker 2>I went back to regular school, and how was mom's

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<v Speaker 2>with all this? Oh? Right, they were managing at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen, my mom and my aunt never forced me

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<v Speaker 2>to do this, like I told them, this is something

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do. She was never a stage mom.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, before I signed my deal,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, are you sure you want to do this?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yes, I want to do this. So my

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<v Speaker 2>mom was very supportive. And the great thing is that

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<v Speaker 2>they were always with me, so I felt always felt protected,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And I'm looking at some of the young

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<v Speaker 2>kids out now, you know, I'm hearing all these stories

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, you look at Britney Spears and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kids doing you know, drugs and alcohol and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thankful that I had that support, the team

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<v Speaker 2>that I had. Very importantly, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Extremely important. The mama, your is is underappreciated. Yeah, mama

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<v Speaker 1>gonna raise hell right.

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<v Speaker 2>But the labels don't like when your family's working with

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<v Speaker 2>you because.

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<v Speaker 1>Because then they can't control they can't control you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah today, And I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm all over your yeah, all over you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that, all ye all over your team. I

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<v Speaker 1>still haven't been to Japan. I'm forty eight years old.

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<v Speaker 2>No way, that's my favorite, that one. I can't say

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite, one of my favorite countries. I love Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Thanks, you have to go. They would

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<v Speaker 2>love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Over there when you go, all open up just let me.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, would you. Yeah, Okay, we're going to go to Japan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we got some stuff that I'm sure they love you

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<v Speaker 2>over at Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, I would love them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna make that happen. We're gonna go to Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard everything that is said on the Running podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is a binding contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it there. I love the people. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the food. This I just love it. It's beautiful, the fashion,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just great. And they're very supportive. Once they love you,

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<v Speaker 2>they love you forever. So they're loyal. They're loyal fans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can always tore them.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's go, we're moving, Okay now, John McClain label.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah. So then I left uh Anna Records and

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<v Speaker 2>I went to Joe Busby signed me recipes.

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<v Speaker 1>He signed me to you know Tank played Joe Busby

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<v Speaker 1>in a new edition.

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<v Speaker 2>You sure did.

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<v Speaker 1>Busby gave me a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Words. Right, you played absolutely, you did a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did a great.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be there that guy I got you? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very well.

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<v Speaker 2>But Joe Busby, I signed with Motown because my manager

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<v Speaker 2>at the time was Bill Dern. Actually they talked about

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Dern in the in the new edition, No, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a new addition. Yeah. So Bill Darn was the

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<v Speaker 2>one that played, was the manager of the new edition.

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<v Speaker 2>He was also my manager. And we decided to go

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<v Speaker 2>with Jerl Busby because you know, Jerl has kids and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and he was very nurturing and and so

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<v Speaker 2>I signed to Motown.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you now? I said, how are you now?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now? No, I don't care. I mean he get

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<v Speaker 2>Google or you know, but at that time, I I

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<v Speaker 2>love your smile came out when I was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so was he discover about sixteen?

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<v Speaker 2>About sixteen seventeen, Yeah, And so I signed with Dyll

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<v Speaker 2>and then he put me in the studio. Nartim Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Waldonnardi Michael Waldon did that whole album. My first song

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<v Speaker 2>that I recorded was Silent Prayer with Johnny Gill was

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<v Speaker 2>on was the first song It's your first song, which

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<v Speaker 2>with with you on that album with It's.

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<v Speaker 4>Your first Session of the Moment, first session album, Yeah, Johnny.

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<v Speaker 2>He was with Johnny Silent Prayer, and then Narda said,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have song titles? I gave him, so I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote down a whole bunch of song titles. He used

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<v Speaker 2>all of my titles that I came up with on

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<v Speaker 2>the album not a Special Yeah. And then and then

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<v Speaker 2>he was sitting by the piano and I just started

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<v Speaker 2>singing melodies and and then everything just kind of started

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<v Speaker 2>from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>So Jarvis jay La Rue, who was a co writer

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<v Speaker 4>with you guys on Love is from my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. The wrap.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Flex. I think Flex told you guys is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I've always wanted to be a rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>Save you said it's authentic too.

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<v Speaker 2>So so when I did I Love Your Smile, at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, I was listening to like Salt and Pepper

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<v Speaker 2>Quin Latifa, I was listening to MC light and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted something hard, right, So when we did I Love

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<v Speaker 2>Your Smile and then Jarvis wrote the rap and I

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<v Speaker 2>did the rap, I was like, is this too sweet?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I want something like hard and so Jeryl Busby

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<v Speaker 2>said after we finished the album, he said, okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>Love Your Smile is going to be the first single,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, no, I think it should be

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<v Speaker 2>Silent Prayer because at the time, the Persian golf War

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<v Speaker 2>was going on, and I said, we need prayer in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. I think I Love Your Silent Prayer should

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<v Speaker 2>be the first single. And then Geryl said, no, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be I Love your Smile. I was

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<v Speaker 2>literally in his office crying. I said, it's the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>first single. I did not know. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 2>Silent Prayer. And then I thought the song was too happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, people are gonna laugh at me and think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm corny because it's so happy. And and when he

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<v Speaker 2>put that song out, it literally overnight, it just blew

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<v Speaker 2>up everywhere. And you know what's crazy. I went on

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Instagram one time and Snoop Dogg was singing I Love

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:30.840
<v Speaker 2>Your Smile and I was just like, the hardest of

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest is singing my song. And then Chris Brown

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<v Speaker 2>was undecided. So I was so wrong. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>wrong about this. I was so wrong about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, he's talking to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>He was right about that, but he but the second

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<v Speaker 2>single was a song called I'm Crying. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I should I should have gone from smiling. I went

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<v Speaker 2>from smile into crying. And I think that Silent Prayer

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<v Speaker 2>should have been the second single with Johnny, and we

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>should have shot a video. We never got to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>a video.

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<v Speaker 1>But you had such a massive first single, like out

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<v Speaker 1>the Gate. I think when that first single takes off,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a whole other world.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's like that's an all timer, as you said,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's still being.

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<v Speaker 1>Pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>People are still taking as many pieces of that song

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<v Speaker 3>as they can to make new moments and memories from it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm so grateful that is I'm so grateful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard.

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<v Speaker 4>So when this record, you said, it takes off immediately, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>do you feel the immediate shift in your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I was really really busy, like to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where sometimes I would I felt I was exhausted because

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I was going from one country to the next. And

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 2>you go into you go, you fly in to that,

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.919
<v Speaker 2>you're on the plane for like fifteen hours. You get

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<v Speaker 2>off the plane and go straight to a photo shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>and you go to the radio station and then you're

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:15.719
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the one room and then you have like

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 2>eighteen different journalists come in to interview. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh my gosh, I'm exhausted. But I had

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. I have one of my best friends. His

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<v Speaker 2>name is Sean Earle. He was one of my dancers,

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<v Speaker 2>and he traveled with me and he kept me laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you, the team that I had around

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<v Speaker 2>it was really good. I don't think I could have

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<v Speaker 2>done it without without the people that I had around me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that helped.

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<v Speaker 3>Litigrate because it's like and in those days, like the

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<v Speaker 3>promo was a different kind of.

0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Heavy, way different lift. It was way different. It was

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like sun up right to sundown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I worked my butt off.

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>You're going to sleep for four to five five hours

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna get right back at it again the

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:05.159
<v Speaker 1>next day. That's how it was.

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:07.080
<v Speaker 2>That's how it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had to fight that at one point because

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:14.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm a machine, right and if you put

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.040
<v Speaker 3>it on the schedule, cool, I'm gonna get to it.

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But then I started to realize that R and B

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 3>is not supposed to be saying in between the hours

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 3>of six am to ten am.

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just not right.

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 3>It's just not And I said, I'm not I'm not

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 3>gonna keep sucking up these more than show performances, right

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 3>because I don't.

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:41.919
<v Speaker 1>Belong here this early.

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 3>R and be don't open up to six thirty pm,

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 3>maybe seven eight, that's when we'll start the performances.

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 4>You know, overseas it's a day chair clock, right, That's

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 4>why they ain't let your ass over there.

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 3>The problem is this, let are and be sick. Where's

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 3>all singing when you need them? Where's the Keenan Way

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 3>Show when you need it?

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Huh?

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>It's called the Army Money Podcast I'm talking about. That's

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 1>what I aren't being supposed to be saying. Right, you're right,

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just apologizing for what they did to us.

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>That's true. Yeah, But now labels aren't doing artists development

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff.

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>They're not doing any of this because they're not trying

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to build legends.

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 4>They're not trying to build legacy. They're going off of

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 4>what's hot right now, and then they're.

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Going to swap you out right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to decide for yourself if you want to

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 4>be in that category at any point of your career

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 4>that's true, you know what I mean. But before they

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 4>were literally like no this artist, because think about it,

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 4>they were some artists were signed to six, eight, ten

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 4>album deals, so they're like, oh, this is and we're

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna believe in you to album three or album whatever

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 4>it is the case may be. Because even in your case,

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 4>you sign an eleven, the album don't come out to fourteen.

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Only reason you leave is because Joan mccauyn left.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you might have still been there by the second album,

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 4>third album, whatever it is. And I don't even think

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 4>the labels look at the artists in the long run

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 4>like that because the songs come and go, and ultimately

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 4>the artists come and go. But before it was kind

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 4>of a forced thing. We're gonna force you to be great,

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 4>right right, because we believe in you.

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Motown. They even they worked with me so

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:41.199
<v Speaker 2>much that they even had a guy come in to

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 2>teach me how to do interviews. And I'm gonna tell

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 2>you why, because I had to. We had I had

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>to train for this because I am extremely shy. I'm

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a shy person. So when I used to sit down

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and do my interviews, I would just give it like

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a one line answer. So, I mean that Motown really,

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, they taught me how to do interviews, you know,

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 2>brought in someone with wardrobe and hair and makeup and

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.880
<v Speaker 2>just all of that stuff, dance classes and acting and

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>all of that.

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>But that was an investment, don't you are a real investment.

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 3>And I just, man, it's just not because you see

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 3>you see glimpses of the talent in today's R and

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>B artists, but you can tell immediately from the school

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 3>that we're from. Ah, they just haven't been trained, and

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 3>they suffer because of it. They suffer live because of it,

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 3>They suffer in interviews because of it. They don't know

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 3>how to get back to the point of while they're there,

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 3>they're able to be laid off on tangents that have

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do. You know why we're here right promoting

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 3>an album, we're promoting a single. We're like all of

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 3>these things that all these people have been laid off.

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>The positions aren't even there anymore, and I missed.

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad I got to experience the eighties in

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>the nineties using the Golden Yeah, those are some great

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 2>years because I'm looking at it now and it's like,

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I hate that people can't go to the record store

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and then like buy the record and look at the

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>artwork and read all the credits, and you know, I

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>hate that, Like people are downloading stuff for free and

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>getting music for free. They're not buying it.

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>They're not buying into the experience of an artist.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then these streaming companies are taking all of

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>our money. We're not making anything off of streams.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, they're also killing again the true artists experience right

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 3>in between phones and the concert and songs being sold

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 3>one at a time. Right, you can't really you can't

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 3>really get into the story. Like back in the day

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 3>when you bought that Anita Baker album, that whole thing.

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, Like I listened. I flipped the album. Yeah,

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to it from front to back. Any heartbreak flip

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that album? Yeah, god god, yeah, the whole thing. Yes,

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I bought it.

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 3>I was into the story from song one to eleven.

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And we don't have that. When I went to the

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>New Edition concert, I don't have a phone, right, I

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>have nothing.

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>I me and my mom might I had a pager.

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>I had a bad outfit. No, I have a pager.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I just had my bad outfit. That's it, and I

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>enjoyed the show from top to bottom.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Lost my mind.

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, me too. I almost got beat up behind a

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>new edition.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, yep, we got to come.

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 2>It was like I told you I was. I've known

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 2>the guy since I was like ten eleven years old,

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>and ride On magazine posted a picture of Ralph Trustman

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>kissing me on the cheek. So when I went back

0:30:56.040 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to school when that magazine, that article came out, graders

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>wanted to beat me up. I was in the seventh

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>grade and the ninth graders.

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Was gonna jump me. Listen, that's that's serious.

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 2>My mom had to pull me out of school.

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Was your school six or twelve?

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I know it was seventh to ninth middle of school.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so my mom literally had to pull me out

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>of school. Like the last couple of weeks I had

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 2>to do work there.

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:23.959
<v Speaker 1>Girls wasn't having it.

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>They were gonna be They were ready to beat me

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>up because of Ralph Chessman.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I almost tell them all the time, you might be

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>the least singer. You ain't round you.

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 4>It ain't Ralph though. They don't understand the power of Ralph. Ralph,

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 4>Ralph kick this thing off. After Michael Jackson was Ralph was.

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Wrong, Ralph flex that he wanted to be Ralph. He

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.600
<v Speaker 2>had to ship the shag with the part on the side.

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Ralph was is Dursday.

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so I just had to share that with you.

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh that's great, that's great. You start naming so

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>many names at the beginning.

0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm sorry.

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>It just went.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Crazy from off the top. Okay, I love your smilers out.

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 3>You're you're clearly on top.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:17.479
<v Speaker 1>Of the world.

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Now you're a world wide star. Now you're a world

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 4>wide star. I want to get into.

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you you.

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Personally at that time, because of course mom auntie every

0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 3>you know you got you got a family union unit.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 3>But do you say, okay, it's time for me to

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>get my own place, get my own moving around.

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Was a woman now, Yeah, yeah, I so. My grandmother

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>was my road manager, my grandmother and my.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Grandmother grandma wasn't taking no ship, ain't nobody none of it.

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Look out, look out.

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I was so protected. Oh my my grandmother slept in

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 2>my same my room with me.

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like yeah, but I love your smiles.

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>This is when I love your smiles out, Like, yeah.

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Your mom's in a double they're not my grandmother youand

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>lock it up.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, they were very closed seven.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's about it's about time for us to go

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to bed, don't you think.

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 2>So I had the success, but I didn't feel like

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel any different, and you know, I was

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>sheltered and I didn't feel.

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>You weren't you just you didn't get that that experience.

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I was not wild out yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, did

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you desire to?

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I was the way I am now, I'm being

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>honest with you. I've been this way like kind of

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>like my whole life.

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Didn't want to hit the club one time when you

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 3>was out of age, like and see what it was,

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying.

0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've can to a couple of clubs. No. Yeah,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I have a friend of mine who was who was

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 2>like my brother at the time, and we would sneak

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>into night clubs and stuff like that. So I can't

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>say I'm like goodie two shoes. I've done some some

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.439
<v Speaker 2>some stuff, but you know, but but for the most part,

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm a church girl. Like I grew up singing

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>in church. My I used to sing in James Cleveland's

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 2>choir when I was a kid, and I was the

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 2>only I was the only kid in his adult choir.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, James, because I wouldn't allowed to listener and be

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Rights was the soundtrack.

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I went to church and sing in the choir.

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know, so.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 2>So whenever I did, like whenever I would veer to

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 2>the left a little bit, God would always pull me

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 2>back over to the right, you know, because you know,

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 2>because I feared God, I never would go.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 4>But so far so you weren't turning up at eighteen

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 4>with this smash international smash record.

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you buy something crazy? Did you? Well?

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, put yourself.

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Are you touching the money?

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I buy myself a Mercedes. Oh yeah, get yes,

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I bought a really nice car. And that's like the

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 2>only thing I bought a nice car. I bought my Mercedes,

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and I kept that. The funny thing is, I don't

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>know if Flex told you this, but I'm frugal, like

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I know how to save money and I hold on

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 2>to things. So I bought that car in ninety two

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>or ninety one, ninety two when I met Flex. I

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>met him in ninety nine. Why did I still have

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 2>that same car?

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I was still driving that all the way to the

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>nine nine, two thousand you.

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 2>Had to make me get rid of that car, same

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:55.840
<v Speaker 2>car to I would drive a car to the wheels

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 2>fall off. That's just how I got you.

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't keep cars that love. But up

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>my car now three years anybody who complimented my car,

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>be like, it's what everything got? Money?

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Take it that funny?

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>What kind of bands was it?

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>It was gosh, what's the name of it? It was great.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 2>It was a three hundred three. That's three hundred.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for ten years.

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I had it for ten years.

0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 3>You say, one hundred and sixty thousand miles probably saw

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 3>you saw a couple of remodels.

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I like not having a car. No, yeah, yeah, it's so.

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And do you move out you're still with the family

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're still still at home with the family. And

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 2>then in Flex and I met in ninety nine. Uh,

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and we got married in two thousand.

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh, y'all went right to it.

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh we dated three months and then he asked me

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>to marry him.

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, he knew what was going on.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>And then four months later we got we were married

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's been twenty four years.

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh he knew. Yeah, So it was like, shout out

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the Flex, shout off the Flex. But you hadn't moved

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>out from your family until then, all right, you had

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>moved out.

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I moved out, and then I moved out for

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 2>a minute, and then I moved back in. So so

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 2>in the in the earlier nineties, I did get engaged

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 2>to another guy to guy and it didn't work out,

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>and I called myself being grown, and you know, I

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.400
<v Speaker 2>moved out of my mom's house. And then after that

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 2>relationship ended, I moved back to my mom's house until

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm at Flex.

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>But let me get back in this nest. Yeah over here,

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>well in the street. That's crazy. So Flex just you know, yeah,

0:37:58.400 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't gonna let the smile pass him by.

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 2>No, And it's crazy because I was he moved into

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 2>my apartment building and I was getting off the elevator

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:09.440
<v Speaker 2>and he was getting on the elevator moving his furniture.

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And I was on my way to Lauren Hill's concert.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 2>And he said Shane, and I said Flex. And I

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>knew of him, and he knew of me, because you know,

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 2>he's an actor. I sing, and I said, you live here.

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 2>He said, I'm moving in today. Let me get your number,

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 2>and I said, okay, I said, let me go get

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>a pin. I may go upstairs and get a pin.

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I went upstairs. By the time I got back downstairs,

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 2>he was gone. Because it took me a minute deep,

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 2>it took a minute gets back. And so two weeks

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>later we read to each other by the elevator and

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 2>then he said, okay, I'm not gonna let you go

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.959
<v Speaker 2>without geting your number. We exchanged numbers and we really

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 2>started off as like really good friends. Like I didn't

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 2>think he was going to be my husband, but I

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 2>want to say this. A friend of mine in ninety

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 2>one did a pilot with him, did a TV show pilot,

0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>and he called me that day and said, I just

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>met your husband, and I said he said, Flex, he's

0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be your husband. And I was like, oh no,

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know him. He gonna be my husband.

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Then in ninety nine he moved into my apartment building

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and it happened.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>That's wild. Yes, that's wild, it's ye. Did you invite

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the homie to the wedding? Oh yeah, what, yeah, it

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.280
<v Speaker 1>was this in your mind when you met Flex.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I forgot about it because it wasn't ninety one. So

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even paying any attention till I and I

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>told my friend, I said, guess who lives in my building?

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.239
<v Speaker 2>He said Flex And I was like, but I still

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't think nothing of it. I still it's crazy. I

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>still didn't think, Okay, this is going to be this

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>is the one, And then really.

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Left him at the elevator for thirty minutes, right, I.

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Mean he would come to my apartment and I have

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>rollers in my hair, flannel pajamas, like I was just like, oh,

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 2>he's the homie, like right, you know. And when he

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 2>started telling me like how much he loved God and

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and he was celibate, I was celibate, and yeah, I

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 2>loved it. And then I started learning more about him

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, okay, okay. And then I went on

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>tour with th Sink and I opened up for in

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Sync in ninety Was that ninety nine? Ninety nine? I

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>opened up for Sink?

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>And describe that working with open up for describe opening

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>up for in Sync? Because I went to that concert.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 2>That was such I really did you see me on

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 2>the ship? Was I there?

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you tell you no, it was whole.

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 2>That's so crazy. Okay. So I had the time of

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>my life within Sync. Justin Timberlake loved my song yesterday, uh,

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 2>to the point where he said, can I sing it

0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>with you? On stage? Can I sing it with you?

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 2>And I was like yeah. And then on my last show,

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Justin got up on stage and we turned it into

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a duet and we performed my song Yesterday. So that

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 2>was that was really cool. And the guys they treated

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 2>me so good on on tour. They were really nice

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 2>to me, and it was it was a great time.

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 4>So absolutely came to that tour you did, because it's

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 4>like when I first came back to LA as an adult.

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 4>And but before that, we had written a song for you.

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 4>It was called so Hard to Say, So Hard to

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:42.320
<v Speaker 4>Say Goodbye? What my brother and myself and Damon Thomas. Yes,

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 4>I wrote that record Whoa, which the song ended up

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 4>going to Coco from s WV Wow, But we wrote

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 4>it for you. It was your song first.

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 2>That's so and that's crazy. It's another song that I'll

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:57.759
<v Speaker 2>tell you about that.

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 4>But and then after that, I ended up writing for

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.439
<v Speaker 4>InSync and up writing for in Sync, getting cool with Justin,

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.320
<v Speaker 4>I ended up writing Celebrity for InSync.

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 4>So it was crazy for me to come to the

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:14.720
<v Speaker 4>show because I always like, I always remembered your version.

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 4>It's so hard to say it, but I'm like, oh man,

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Nice had the record. Then they went here, you know,

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.720
<v Speaker 4>just label in politics and house.

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that happens a lot.

0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, songs get held up here and then it's like

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>are you using that record?

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:30.400
<v Speaker 1>You know that.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 4>Then they're not gonna use it, and then it goes

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:35.759
<v Speaker 4>to another artist and that whole thing. So for me,

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 4>like seeing you on that tour, I was like, damn,

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 4>this is crazy, like because my INSNC record hadn't come

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 4>out yet, but I'm just watching it.

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, damn, say she's on this tour and

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I love Chanice. I was a kid and seeing it whole,

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like just how it all

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>played out, it was just it was a world world tour, right.

0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just did the States because the lab I

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 2>can't remember how many they have to be like sixty.

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:04.839
<v Speaker 2>I had had a lot of dates, but I can't

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 2>remember how many. But the label they didn't want. The

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 2>guys wanted me to stay on the tour, but the

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 2>label had to pay for like the tour bus and

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff and they didn't want to continue to

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.800
<v Speaker 2>pay for the tour support. Yeah, I didn't get the

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.399
<v Speaker 2>tour support, so I could have stayed on the tour,

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 2>but the label didn't want to pay to take.

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 4>An artist off of in Syncs tour during those people, Yeah,

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 4>we were doing huge arenas at the height of a group. Yes,

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 4>you got your artists on that tour, Like.

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You take care because when you double back with another record,

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:38.760
<v Speaker 1>all those fans that you've.

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, do you know men people per night, I'm

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 2>singing in front of like and putting you in front

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of people that were new for you,

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 2>that were that were there were new fans for you.

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 1>You you gaining new fans R and b artists.

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't on a.

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Super pop tour with the biggest pop group at the.

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Time that the day were huge. Yeah, I really serve.

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:02.720
<v Speaker 2>So many things happens in my career and I still

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 2>people ask me all the time, like, what happened with

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 2>this album? Why did this happen? Why? I'm like, I

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 2>don't even know, you know, I can't even answer that

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 2>because I thought that was ridiculous. I should have stayed

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 2>on that tour and the guys wanted me on the tour.

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, you know, like you said, politic politics.

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 4>Politics, So it's so much more. It's so much more

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 4>than than the general public knows.

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>So so what is the energy going? So now you've

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you've you've done this, you've done the tour and all

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.320
<v Speaker 1>these things, So what's what's the energy now with you

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.959
<v Speaker 1>in the label? And in terms of what they're saying,

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>is next you're.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Talking about at the time, back then.

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>You can speak on the label if you want to.

0:44:52.239 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I won't say that, okay. So yeah, after after the tour,

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I met Flex, and then Flex and I got married.

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 2>And right after we got married, like we that same

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 2>year we got I got pregnant. So I sat with

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:18.760
<v Speaker 2>the label at the time, I was like five months pregnant,

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and we were talking about working on the next album.

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 2>So I was super excited, like, yeah, I can't wait

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>to get back in the studio and record and my

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 2>stomach's like out to hear and so the meeting went well.

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>But then after my meeting they I got a phone

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 2>call and they said we're just going to let you

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>be a mom for a while. And I was like,

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 2>but nobody's going to see me pregnant, I only have

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 2>four more months to go. We could just start recording.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's going to see me pregnant. And then after that

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 2>phone call, I got another phone call said that we're

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 2>just gonna we think you're really talented, but we're just

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>going to let you go. And so I lost my

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 2>record deal while I was pregnant, while you're pregnant. That's

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>just that's how it happens. I was. I don't understand,

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 2>and I'm telling you, I'd always try to treat people,

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, to be nice to people. I've always tried

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>not to be you know, difficult or anything like that.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 2>So I never understood why, like like why, I still

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know. To be honest, I don't know.

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 4>And the wildest part about it, too, is that I

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 4>actually know of artists, female artists who have hit their pregnancies.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, imagine how many artists have had abortions because because

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 2>of that. Yeah, you know, but now the times are different,

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Like now women are on covers of magazines now and

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 2>it's accepted now. But back in the late nineties and

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.879
<v Speaker 2>early two thousands, the labels looked at you like, Okay,

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 2>you're done. I guess I don't really think that, you know,

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 2>men aren't going to find you attractive anymore, or I

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know what.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:47:01.439
<v Speaker 1>There was a bunch of weird uh things in place

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.920
<v Speaker 1>back then that you couldn't be in order to be

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 1>this that we're just religious.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 2>They said, okay, don't mention the interview that you got

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>a boyfriend, or like.

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>In my career there was like you don't say you're married, right, because.

0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Then you'll lose all your girls, women fans.

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Women love you. Man, you are a fantasy. He tells

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>how I said, you are a fantasy.

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Bro Like that should be, that should be. All of

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.360
<v Speaker 4>those things should be up to the artists. If you

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 4>want to publicize whatever you want to publicize, be up

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 4>to you.

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, now you thank god it's changed has changed.

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 2>But back then it what they was the case. It

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the case.

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 3>They just they just had a thing that whatever their

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 3>analytic was, it told them that X, Y and Z

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 3>has to be this in order for it to be that, you.

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean? And the because they hadn't seen

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>any other way seen it, Yeah, has it? So they

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>were going to run that formula until it ran out.

0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I got That was really a tough time

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>for me because, like I told you, I signed when

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 2>I was eleven years old. I always had record deals

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 2>and I've always since I was a kid, and so

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 2>when that was snatched away from me, I kind of like,

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, went into depression. And you know, I had

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 2>a new baby, and I was happy that I had

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 2>a new baby, but at the same time, I was

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 2>like miserable because I couldn't, like, you know, do what

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I love and I couldn't sing. And so then in

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:33.640
<v Speaker 2>like two thousand and six, I said, I used to

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 2>get on YouTube all the time, and I had this

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.160
<v Speaker 2>one fan that would post videos about me and just

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:43.600
<v Speaker 2>like really like say great things about me. And I said,

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 2>you know what, if the fans want to still hear

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>me sing, why am I waiting on a laby? Why

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 2>am I trying to, you know, wait on a label.

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Let me just put out my own album and deal

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 2>with my fans directly. And that's when I did. In

0:48:57.520 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and six, I put out an independent project

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 2>and I worked with a guy named Richard Nash. I

0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you know Richard Nash and his wife

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Feita and uh and Mike Mike Kelly. We put out

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 2>an printed album called every Woman's Dreams, and it was

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:19.320
<v Speaker 2>very independent, but we did really well for it to

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 2>be as independent as it was. We did really good

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:22.440
<v Speaker 2>with that.

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 4>So, and were you during this time, from like two

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:29.400
<v Speaker 4>thousand and one to two thousand and six, are you

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 4>performing still? I was still kind of shut everything down.

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:35.000
<v Speaker 2>No. I was still doing the shows here and there.

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just didn't have a record deal, but

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I was still kind of you know, still singing, still

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.879
<v Speaker 2>singing to church, still doing shows. Yeah.

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.640
<v Speaker 1>So, but you were trying to figure out the record

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to.

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Get back on the recording side.

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I did that and we had to spend

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 2>money out of our own pockets. So we know, whenever

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 2>I had to travel or whatever, I was funding everything.

0:49:57.800 --> 0:50:00.399
<v Speaker 2>So it was really hard. So we couldn't really push

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>it as hard as we wanted to because the funds

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:04.919
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't. It just wasn't.

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 4>They don't come back as fast they go out right. No,

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 4>it's just people they don't know how this thing works.

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Of like I had.

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had to pay all the producers, I had

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:19.120
<v Speaker 2>to pay for travel, I had to pay for my videos,

0:50:19.320 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 2>my photo shoots all of that, so I just we

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.439
<v Speaker 2>couldn't afford it. And then I know, we talked about

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>this several times publicly, but then our money started running out.

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, we ended up losing our house. We lost everything,

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 2>like Flex's show one on one ended, and then at

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 2>that time, it was such an awful time. We lost

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 2>our cars, we lost our house, we lost everything. So

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:51.560
<v Speaker 2>we ended up pretty much homeless. And so we were

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 2>in a hotel and Martin Lawrence and his ex wife

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Shamika Uh, they said, we want to take you guys

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 2>out to dinner, and I was like okay. So we

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>went out to dinner and they knew that we lost

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 2>our house and said get you a place. We don't

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.320
<v Speaker 2>want you in a hotel, like, get you a place.

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 2>So they're really my guard like angels, like you know.

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 2>So I hate to talk about that because I said,

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I will never talk about this again because we told

0:51:20.560 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it on our we had a reality show and we

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 2>talked about in the reality show. But that's just like

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>that was like one of the hardest times in my life.

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:32.040
<v Speaker 2>But God put the you know, angels in my life

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 2>that helped me.

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.719
<v Speaker 1>No, and we have to we have to be there

0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for each other in this business because I think people

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>see it on the outside.

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 4>I've spoken about them multiple times during this interview of

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.840
<v Speaker 4>how people perceive things and how they think things go

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 4>more than what the realities are. The realities are. We're

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 4>all human, yeah, we all. This is a this is

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 4>a passion, but it's also a job exactly. Sometimes we

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:04.120
<v Speaker 4>lose jobs, you know what I mean. And it's great

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 4>when you've made the right relationships that someone will help

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 4>you either get another job, help you get on your

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:11.320
<v Speaker 4>feet till you get that another job. Like this is

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:15.399
<v Speaker 4>real life, and I think when people see it through

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 4>a lens, it doesn't seem real to them. It's like, oh,

0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 4>you're fine and everything is fine and everything, and yes

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 4>you do have an opportunity to make more than some

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 4>others may, but you also got to pay more taxes

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 4>and when you take on more things, there's more people

0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 4>and overhead. And like you said, you decided to have

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.120
<v Speaker 4>true independence at this point.

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Flights, hotels, everything, every clear a sample yeah whatever these

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>things are, you know what I mean.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:52.320
<v Speaker 4>So you know, I just and we also said this

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 4>to flex, like we just appreciate the honesty and the

0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:58.960
<v Speaker 4>openness that your family has had to tell what this

0:52:59.239 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 4>thing really is.

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 1>We I mean me and me and him.

0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 4>We joke a lot about a lot of stuff, but

0:53:04.640 --> 0:53:07.359
<v Speaker 4>same experiences at the time, you know what I mean.

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, we talk about him and I could never

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 4>keep a car.

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 1>He was coming to get it.

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 3>He was trying to hide them cars. I wuld have

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:26.680
<v Speaker 3>lost two houses. I don't know how many cars. Please,

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 3>But it's just somehow or for some reason, it's just

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 3>par for this course. It's just what this thing, This

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 3>thing takes all of you, a lot of you, and

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 3>and depending on you know, how strong you are, what

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:53.280
<v Speaker 3>you're or what you're rooted in. We're able to figure

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:55.800
<v Speaker 3>it out and sit here in this room today and

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 3>talk about it with a smile on our face.

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 2>That's you know, made it through the stone. I'm not where.

0:54:01.640 --> 0:54:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, things are much better, much better than it was.

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, we made it through the storm. Well. We

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 2>we actually Pitchedory the idea for a reality show to own.

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>We had one meeting. We didn't even get out of

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 2>the building and they wanted to show. They picked it

0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:22.040
<v Speaker 2>up like immediately, and so you know that helped us,

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, get back on our feed again. And so

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, Flex is doing going out doing stand up

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:32.200
<v Speaker 2>and I'm you know, I'm still doing a lot of touring,

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:35.200
<v Speaker 2>so things as you should definitely picking up.

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.920
<v Speaker 4>So how is it for you though, as you know,

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:41.719
<v Speaker 4>going and doing one side of the business as a

0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:46.080
<v Speaker 4>recording artist and then being a reality TV star too?

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Though now like because now people people in your business.

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:51.239
<v Speaker 4>First thing in your business as an artist, but now

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 4>they really in your business because you didn't give them

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 4>some more information.

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:54.600
<v Speaker 1>How is that?

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I've always been an open book, you know, so it

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't bother me. It was actually my idea to do

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 2>a show. I always I love reality TV. Watch I

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 2>watched Girls, I watched I watched all of those. I

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:25.040
<v Speaker 2>watched the Housewives, subscriptions, Ship, I got all that, so yeah,

0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I watched everything.

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Everybody name shout.

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 2>So so yes, I love all the shows. So I

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 2>asked Flex before that happened to us with the house

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and all that. I told Flex, I say, let's do

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 2>a reality show. And he was like, no, I don't

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 2>want to do a reality show because people are not

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.800
<v Speaker 2>going to take me serious as an actor anymore. Like

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:49.840
<v Speaker 2>he really thought he wouldn't be able to act if

0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:53.240
<v Speaker 2>we did reality show. So then when all that stuff

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 2>went on with the with the house and the cards

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 2>and all that, he said, you know what, we have

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>a story to tell. He said, now I feel like

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:03.440
<v Speaker 2>this is the time because you know, we have a story.

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to just do something just to do

0:56:05.120 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 2>it and make up fights and and all that stuff.

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, Okay, well now I think this is

0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the right time. So that's when he decided, Okay, let's

0:56:13.840 --> 0:56:15.919
<v Speaker 2>do it. And we did it, and we had three

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:20.440
<v Speaker 2>great seasons. Our ratings were, you know, really good and

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.680
<v Speaker 2>like once again politics. You know, I think we could

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 2>have definitely had way more seasons, but it was. It

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:28.839
<v Speaker 2>was a good run.

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:30.239
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to bring it back flex and.

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:35.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like, no, I'm not doing that again. Like he

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:37.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to do it again. I don't know, it

0:56:37.320 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 2>depends on it depends, it depends I would do it again.

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So did you do you? Guys?

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Did do like the like the other shows though, you

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:47.799
<v Speaker 4>know how they do the like Couples Island after they

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:49.600
<v Speaker 4>do their your reality show.

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 2>But then you go and yeah, we've never done those,

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:53.920
<v Speaker 2>like those couple retreats and stuff like that.

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you do it?

0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Did you do it now?

0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Flex, We got we got it almost did it. I

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:03.959
<v Speaker 1>was like, this man, you we had one more million

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of that I might get on that island. One more million.

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>And you got me. That's dope. That's dope.

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 3>How are you feeling now because you got listen you

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I told I told I told Flex this too, and

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I said something about seeing you two together is like

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 3>really cool.

0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Like it's like an energy like no other.

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 3>And and and we were going through the progressions of

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.880
<v Speaker 3>his careers were gone through the progressions of your career.

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 3>It's like he said, he told us that, you know,

0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 3>a couple was thinking about picking their lives, taking their

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 3>lives until they saw your show and they saw your

0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 3>journey and that kept them from from hurting the very

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:59.880
<v Speaker 3>bad hurt themselves. And I'm like, it's crazy how all

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 3>of you know, like as talented as we are and

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 3>as many gifts as we have, you know, we find

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 3>this underlining purpose or maybe this true purpose of while

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 3>we're here, and that's to really help somebody else.

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah with this thing.

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So yeah, I was at church one day and

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 2>this lady cried on my shoulder and she told me

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:26.560
<v Speaker 2>that she was her and her husband couldn't killed themselves

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:30.360
<v Speaker 2>because they had lost everything, but our show saved their lives.

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:33.439
<v Speaker 2>And that's when it all clicked in my head. I said,

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 2>that was you know, we went through that so that

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 2>we can, you know, help others. And I'm glad we

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 2>did the show. But I ain't gonna lie. In the beginning,

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 2>when they started playing the promo, I made a statement

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and I said, it's hard being a broke celebrity. And

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:51.080
<v Speaker 2>I said that, and that's the thing they kept playing

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 2>over and over again, and then I got scared.

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, why did I say that.

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 2>That's so embarrassing, Like I was in the beginning, I

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 2>was like really nervous and embarrassed. And and then after

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>I when I when I heard that woman's story and

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I saw how it was affecting people's lives, and I said, okay, lord, okay,

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:09.560
<v Speaker 2>then you know, I felt good about it. I'm like,

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we did that.

0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:19.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not a bad line. The line is so factual

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 3>all across the board.

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 1>More than people want to admit to not get fooled

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 1>by the gram.

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 2>That's true. You can make your life look so fly

0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram.

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Man, these celebrities they're gonna post a meal, right, but

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna post chopping up that check. Who had the chicken? Right?

0:59:43.920 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Who had gratuit gratity? Who had graduate gray, who had gratuy?

0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I ain't had no, I ain't have grady. I don't

0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 1>even know. I don't even know.

0:59:52.640 --> 0:59:53.120
<v Speaker 2>That's real.

0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 3>It's real, it's not sweet, and that type of transparency

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 3>use and you don't have to write, but it goes

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 3>such a long way for people who inspire to be

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:16.200
<v Speaker 3>like you because they like when it's when, it's when

1:00:16.240 --> 1:00:19.000
<v Speaker 3>it's when, when when it's tied is high, when when

1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:20.840
<v Speaker 3>you know when the waves is high and the surfing

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:26.160
<v Speaker 3>is good, the swear yeah, we end. But what happens

1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 3>when it is not? What happens when the dream has.

1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 4>To now.

1:00:34.200 --> 1:00:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Become a different type of reality.

1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Right, You've had deals since you was eleven. First time

1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:47.320
<v Speaker 3>in your life you don't have a record deal, you

1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:50.760
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? And so they're looking to you

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.880
<v Speaker 3>to say, well, how do I get out of that?

1:00:54.880 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 1>What do I do to to to move on? And

1:00:59.760 --> 1:01:03.040
<v Speaker 1>can tinue? Where do I find value in myself?

1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Because you have to love yourself and have other things

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:08.480
<v Speaker 2>that you're interested outside.

1:01:08.000 --> 1:01:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Of that if we weren't taught ancillary.

1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:13.040
<v Speaker 2>That's true if you put all if you just focus

1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:14.600
<v Speaker 2>on I want to. I want to, you know, do

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:16.360
<v Speaker 2>music and music and music, and I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>famous and I want to. And you don't have anything

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<v Speaker 2>else that you you love, and you don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>loving family or just like other things to turn to,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can literally lose your mind, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>it's taken away.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why it's so great to have you here

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<v Speaker 4>and to have your husband here to see that, to

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<v Speaker 4>see that you haven't lost your mind in this thing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and that you still just and he mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>this a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the energy, the energy that you both have together.

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<v Speaker 4>Separately, like you know, like I just randomly ran into

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<v Speaker 4>them on the air airplane, airplane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just my guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's early morning too, you know when people

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<v Speaker 4>don't even be speaking to each other early.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, we need you and Johnny's on the box, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like, I'm so glad because that

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<v Speaker 1>is just what you've the aura of both of you

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<v Speaker 1>that you've always given everybody you thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard.

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<v Speaker 4>Anybody say they don't like next or shans never ever

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<v Speaker 4>thank you ever, ever ever thank you, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>that is to be celebrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate you guys thinking of us absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I want I want to touch you one more thing

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<v Speaker 3>as we talk about you, your strength and your perseverance

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<v Speaker 3>and and and and life and its reality. You are

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<v Speaker 3>a survivor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah wow yeah. This year. Well, in

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<v Speaker 2>about eight years ago, I had a I did a

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<v Speaker 2>mammogram and an ultrasound on my breast and they thought

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<v Speaker 2>they saw something and so they said, we want you

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<v Speaker 2>to go to I think it was USC to do

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<v Speaker 2>a biopsy because they have a USC hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went and.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy, the doctor there, said why are we doing

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<v Speaker 2>a biopsy on something that I don't see? Because he

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<v Speaker 2>ran his own test and he said, everything looks clear.

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<v Speaker 2>You're fine. But that moment freaked me out so much

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<v Speaker 2>that I never went back again, and so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get I wasn't going every year to get my mammogrounds. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was terrified. I was scared. So I had

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<v Speaker 2>this lump in my breast and I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>assists because I always get cyst in my breast. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like normal for me to have cyst, but cists

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<v Speaker 2>are benign and you don't really worry about that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I felt this lump, but normally assists they come and

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<v Speaker 2>go with this lump. Didn't. It just stayed and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, okay, let me just get this checked. And

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<v Speaker 2>I went and they said, well, you have DCIS, which

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<v Speaker 2>is is cancer in the milk ducks. And they said,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're going to catch anything, that's the best thing

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<v Speaker 2>to catch because it hadn't spread into my breast tissue.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, oh, okay. So when I did

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<v Speaker 2>the surgery, they said, we want to take your breast.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to take your breast because I had so

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<v Speaker 2>much of it in my milk ducks. It would have

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<v Speaker 2>if they would have taken half of my breast that

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<v Speaker 2>it would it would I would have half of a breast.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't look right. So they said, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>take your whole breast cut to I said, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have to take one breast, just take them both

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't anything to pop up in my other breast.

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<v Speaker 2>So once they did the surgery, it took everything out.

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<v Speaker 2>They retested it and they said, oh, you had a

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<v Speaker 2>one centimeter stage one tumor in your breast. So I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know that from my scans. It was just I

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<v Speaker 2>only knew of the the stuff in the milk duck,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't know I had a whole one one

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<v Speaker 2>sendime to stage one tumor until we did the surgery

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<v Speaker 2>and they took it out and.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have known or they just didn't catch it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they didn't see it. They I mean, the other

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in the milk ducks showed up, but the tumor

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't see it on the Mamma Grand or the ultrasound.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't know that until after that I had

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<v Speaker 2>a stage one tumor. So I had both of my

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<v Speaker 2>breasts removed. Thank god that I have implants now, because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's like, well, how come you look like it's doing press. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't. I haven't plants now, but I'm good. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I caught it early, and I just have to keep

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<v Speaker 2>myself healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>You still walked in this room smiling, it was building, smiling, enlightened.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was three months ago. So I had my

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<v Speaker 2>surgery three months ago, and you know, I just had

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<v Speaker 2>an examination a couple of days ago and she said

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<v Speaker 2>everything everything, looks good. So I'm just gonna stay on

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<v Speaker 2>the on the other side of every so every six months,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get checked every six months.

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<v Speaker 4>And just in that too, just in your your journey

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<v Speaker 4>and your story, just telling other women, and we tell

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<v Speaker 4>men all the time when you know on our podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>like especially in our community, yes please.

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<v Speaker 2>Get tested even with prostate, like check all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, because when you catched up early, you

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<v Speaker 2>can You'll live, you can do, you can live. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad I caught her right.

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<v Speaker 1>We are too, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. I also want to say this before we go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a musical and I'm playing Michelle Obama in

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<v Speaker 2>a musical called forty four and the Food.

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<v Speaker 1>Where can we check it out?

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<v Speaker 2>So it's about Barack Obama when he was running for president.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did a run here in California at the

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<v Speaker 2>Bourbon Room for like six weeks, and and then we

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<v Speaker 2>just did New York, we just did Chicago. Looks like

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<v Speaker 2>we're about to go to Philly next month. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys coming back to l A?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I think after after the New year back here,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'll let you know, but I'm having the time

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<v Speaker 2>of my life doing this musical. So much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Your stomp. You're a flat footed singer, so that worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It works for you.

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<v Speaker 2>A huge com from you and you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like we were going there like yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna that would be the last of the words, like

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<v Speaker 4>she about to cook?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna get some new music? We're gonna you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know. I just recently Jimmy Jam and Terry

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<v Speaker 2>Lewis did.

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<v Speaker 1>End for Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did a show a festival in Minneapolis and

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<v Speaker 2>asked me to be a part of it. It was

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<v Speaker 2>myself and Reuben stuttered and we had to sing all

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<v Speaker 2>of their hit songs and and so it went really well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so now they're like, we want to get you

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio. So I haven't been in the studio yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but they want to get me in the studio to record.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to work for you guys too.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this, this is our place, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>we do.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to record. Yes, yes, okay, you heard them right,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you can ship. I'm waiting for the Jimmy Jam

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<v Speaker 1>and Terry Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>They just finished La Adams album and.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know we would love to work with you,

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<v Speaker 3>but as fans of that ship, I know what Jimmy

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<v Speaker 3>jam and Terry Lewis are going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear it first before I do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the songs up. I want to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to fight on the even playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Her niece, Take your your top five R and B.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to pick five.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had you have to or you're five at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, you know you're five. Just you know which

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<v Speaker 1>just comes to my.

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<v Speaker 2>Winnie Houston is definitely Whitney Houston. Jesus, I love well

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<v Speaker 2>does it have to be? R and B?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you want your world?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I love Karen Clarks.

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<v Speaker 1>Know I love all of the Clarks Okay, will make

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<v Speaker 1>them a whole to a whole. Got to get a

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<v Speaker 1>who section. I watched I watched the movie and it

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<v Speaker 1>was real. It's real.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little girl and I used and I

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<v Speaker 2>used to say I used to watch them and I

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<v Speaker 2>used to say, I want to sing like that one

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<v Speaker 2>right there, Karen. But you know, and then when I

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<v Speaker 2>met her, she had all white and I remember saying,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a real angel. She's wearing white. Okay, So anyway

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<v Speaker 2>was the white that.

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<v Speaker 1>FLEX had on in Michael Jackson. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I messed my head. I waked him Mike too.

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<v Speaker 2>I sang three backgrounds on three records. Yeah, I sang

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<v Speaker 2>backgrounds are three of Michael's records is keep the faith,

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<v Speaker 2>keep the faith behind the mask. After he passed away,

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<v Speaker 2>they put me on that song and then I did

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be there.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be there and break my heart for Tony Braxton.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I say backgrounds on unbreak my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at me, look at me, look a look at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Know my little tit bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. But okay, so okay, favorite top five R

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<v Speaker 2>and B.

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<v Speaker 1>Singers too, like I did too mean Clark's sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna put them and then shoot, I love

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<v Speaker 2>Kim Barell.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not. Yeah, she's a beach super saying, oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, I heard her seeing the other day. I was

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<v Speaker 2>a she did this like it's almost like the tiny

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<v Speaker 2>desk thing, and she did a performance. It was a small,

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<v Speaker 2>intimate crowd and I'm just sitting there with my mouth open.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's always it's insane. It's always a lesson. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my goodness, I never get tired of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if I could just jump into her brain

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<v Speaker 2>and just like, I just I don't know what she's

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<v Speaker 2>thinking when she's singing. I just wish I could think.

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<v Speaker 1>But what she picks to go is it's insane.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't do it at all, but she's even hearing it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like I didn't even know that's where you could

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<v Speaker 4>go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson's one of my favorite. I love Michael Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>And gosh, there's so many people that I love. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not. I love Beyonce a loyal member.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she sings in that song Plastic on the Sofa.

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<v Speaker 2>I love those I love what she did on that plastic.

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<v Speaker 2>They are not going to tell me right it's called

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a song that's on her new album called

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<v Speaker 2>Plastic on the Sofa.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to look Renaissance.

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<v Speaker 2>She I love that song.

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<v Speaker 1>She opened her She opened her stadium concert with ballads.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I went like, like, how disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to sit right here by this piano. Classic

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<v Speaker 3>off the plastic off the sofa.

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<v Speaker 2>It's plastic off the sofa and on the sound and.

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<v Speaker 1>Give you these raw, unadult orted vocals.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she did. I got to say this. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you said top five, but I got I have

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<v Speaker 2>I have to mention. Let us see, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>mention Chante Moore. I have to mention to Miya these

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<v Speaker 2>are people that I really do, I really do love.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to mention Jazz and Sullivan too.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, you got no argument for anyone you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you and to Mia have this like special place for

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<v Speaker 1>me where you got.

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<v Speaker 3>You two exist in just this space of like skill

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<v Speaker 3>power and and if I'm going to make me make

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<v Speaker 3>up a word angelics, thank you. Okay, your top.

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<v Speaker 2>Five R and B songs, well the best of my

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<v Speaker 2>love by the emotions. And I'm gonna reason why is

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<v Speaker 2>because when I was a little girl, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to harmonize. I knew how to sing lead, but

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<v Speaker 2>when it was time to harmonize, I would always go

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<v Speaker 2>off my note and go on to another note. And

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<v Speaker 2>so my mom taught me how to harmonize by listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the best of my love. So that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>actually learned how to harmonize from the emotions.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you just got the family full of singers.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone sings yes, get on your cheating. I have to

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<v Speaker 4>be telling your husband to get off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. We taught him how to harmonize to him,

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<v Speaker 2>My mom and I did because because Flex sings on key.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex doesn't sing out of key.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, he's much better now. He has a good

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<v Speaker 2>ear too. No no, no. Flex has a good tone

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<v Speaker 2>and he can hear if someone's off. He can hear

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<v Speaker 2>it like he knows.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we heard your eye turner. He could you see

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<v Speaker 1>the episode? I heard another he comes out with right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So we worked with Flex and he actually can sing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Flex flex, but I would say the best

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<v Speaker 2>of my love. I love Michael Jackson's You Are Not Alone.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that song. That song just when I.

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<v Speaker 1>Hear simple, it's so simple, it's so simple.

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<v Speaker 2>The song the Titanic song that Celine Dion did saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he'll go on. So you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with Diane Warren and David Foster. I did

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<v Speaker 2>a song called Save a Third for You. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>the Night One soundtrack. She wrote that, Yeah, Diane wrote, Diane, Diane.

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<v Speaker 1>Warne taught me a real lesson in music publishing. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>that I will never forget. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love.

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<v Speaker 2>Celeine Dion. How wasn't it my life my harbor gone, Gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to pick you got it? I think

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<v Speaker 2>all time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Three yeah, three, Well since I love your smile was

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<v Speaker 2>so good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I told you something. Yeah and that undecided

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<v Speaker 1>check yeah because she wrote it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah yeah. And then I have to say adore

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<v Speaker 2>by Prince. I love Prince.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so ahead of his time, yes, with those records.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna tell you. We meet and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we meet celebrities all the time, but when I met Prince,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the only celebrity that made me cry. I literally

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<v Speaker 2>not in front of him. I was like, nice to

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<v Speaker 2>meet you, and then I went to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like Prince moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I was such I found out when I met Prince.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I got to say door kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of I didn't meet him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we was in the same room.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like right over there, Wow, you didn't meet him.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get a chance to meet him because it

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<v Speaker 3>was like it was a it was just kind of

1:17:13.160 --> 1:17:15.960
<v Speaker 3>a weird interaction. It was one of Jamie's parties throwing

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<v Speaker 3>the party at this hotel and Prince came.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, that's prissy. And then and then

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking at me. I was like, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's so like mysterious, completely mysterious. Like what do I like,

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<v Speaker 1>do I go?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I walk over to the Yeah? And then he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even in there for five minutes and then he

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<v Speaker 3>came walking towards me. I'm like, is he going to

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<v Speaker 3>say ahead of me? And then he just walked by

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<v Speaker 3>me here like I guess not. And then it was like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to the Sayers Club and we all gonna

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<v Speaker 3>jym out.

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<v Speaker 1>Prince is coming. And then we got there and I

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<v Speaker 1>think Prince came for like a second, and then Princess

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<v Speaker 1>Prince like batman. Yeah, yeah, I told her. I told

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<v Speaker 1>her home.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, don't don't say nothing to print, leave princes

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<v Speaker 4>alone and didn't listen. They didn't listen, and it went

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<v Speaker 4>a little left.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they ask for a photo or something? Because I

1:18:10.439 --> 1:18:11.800
<v Speaker 2>don't think he took pictures with people.

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<v Speaker 4>They start bringing up like holidays and birthdays. It's my

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<v Speaker 4>birthday and he's like, oh, you don't witness I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't believe in birthday. He just went and went left

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<v Speaker 1>and then he vanished into the night. Oh wow, literally

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<v Speaker 1>like one. We looked over to each other and say something.

1:18:35.600 --> 1:18:38.760
<v Speaker 1>We looked back, he was gone, gone, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a magical nigga. He's so good at that, good

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<v Speaker 1>at that. But yeah, let's build your voltron, your super

1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:49.280
<v Speaker 1>R and B artists. We want to get the characteristics

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<v Speaker 1>from artists that you've loved in the door since the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of time. We're going to look for the vocal,

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<v Speaker 1>the performing style, the styling, the passion of the artists, and.

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<v Speaker 3>And and here's what and here's one. I'm gonna throw

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<v Speaker 3>a monkey wrench on you. What's going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>title of their first single?

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. You're so good at it, I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 3>To guide you through it. Making a super R and

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<v Speaker 3>B artist. You can pick one voice to build that artist.

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<v Speaker 3>What voice are you picking the singer?

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<v Speaker 2>So if I had a new artist and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>singer that I want to know, you're putting this artist

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<v Speaker 2>together like vultron. Oh, I'm putting it. I'm putting an

1:19:30.520 --> 1:19:31.080
<v Speaker 2>artist together.

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<v Speaker 3>You're putting all the DNA artists. So you have to

1:19:34.320 --> 1:19:38.240
<v Speaker 3>pick one vocal to be the vocal of this artist.

1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:43.880
<v Speaker 3>What vocal are you picking? Whose vocal. Are you picking?

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a female artist, I would say, this is

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to be. I would say, Whitney h

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<v Speaker 2>strong strong, strong, strong, and and and she doesn't overseing

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<v Speaker 2>and she knows like she does her run like she

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<v Speaker 2>could hit you with a dope run. But she didn't

1:20:02.560 --> 1:20:05.120
<v Speaker 2>overdo it because she's so quick. But it was so

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<v Speaker 2>much power. She didn't have to like when she did

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<v Speaker 2>the National Anthem, she didn't do a whole lot of runs,

1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:12.840
<v Speaker 2>but it was so much power in that performance.

1:20:13.200 --> 1:20:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It was it was the most intense.

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<v Speaker 2>She knows how to land those runs.

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<v Speaker 1>To her I've ever seen, I've ever felt.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you think about it, she wasn't like all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place she was.

1:20:26.040 --> 1:20:29.960
<v Speaker 3>She was just precise and had so much intention with

1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:33.439
<v Speaker 3>every note. I was like, you gotta be kill Like

1:20:33.479 --> 1:20:35.639
<v Speaker 3>who cries during the national anthem?

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<v Speaker 1>People were crying like I was. It was a tear

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of my iuse fighting a tear. I didn't cry,

1:20:43.680 --> 1:20:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it was a tear in my eye. That's not crying

1:20:46.200 --> 1:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>now you cry, that's emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>Te Can I say one more thing? And I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be like, oh here she goes dropping

1:20:52.760 --> 1:21:00.320
<v Speaker 2>another name. I just want to say this. So whitn

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<v Speaker 2>and I were We were really cool. And as matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, when I got married to Flex, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a gift, a wedding gift. And so my friend

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<v Speaker 2>Don Juan used to be her sound person and used

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<v Speaker 2>to run her, I think, her recording studio. She had

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<v Speaker 2>her own home studio and he he called me one

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<v Speaker 2>day and I missed the call. He said, why didn't

1:21:20.240 --> 1:21:22.680
<v Speaker 2>you answer? He said, He said, I had Whitney on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone. She wanted to talk to you because she

1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:26.720
<v Speaker 2>wants to do a duet with you. And I was like,

1:21:27.000 --> 1:21:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Whitney wants to do a duet with me? And he

1:21:29.280 --> 1:21:32.960
<v Speaker 2>said yeah, he said, but she she wants Babyface to

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<v Speaker 2>produce it. And I was like that's perfect. I said,

1:21:36.520 --> 1:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the face, like yeah, let's do it. So

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<v Speaker 2>it never happened, that's all I got to say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it just never. It just never happened. She wanted

1:21:48.960 --> 1:21:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it to happen, and but it just never happened. But

1:21:54.360 --> 1:21:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I wish it would have happened because I love her.

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<v Speaker 3>Something so okay, performance style, performance style, You're going to get.

1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Style on stage on stage?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like the way to perform on stage.

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<v Speaker 1>They give me male female. You're just you're building, You're

1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:16.559
<v Speaker 1>just building an artist.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson.

1:22:19.080 --> 1:22:22.799
<v Speaker 1>Why why not? I know your attachment. I know your attachment,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson. I know you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Styling, drip vocals, closed styling, Beyonce, why not.

1:22:43.680 --> 1:22:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Nothing off the rack? Yeah, once you get there, a

1:22:49.479 --> 1:22:54.720
<v Speaker 1>new wardrobe area album, a new theme theme ding. You've

1:22:54.720 --> 1:22:57.360
<v Speaker 1>seen that Cowboy Carter. You seeing that alb cover.

1:22:58.800 --> 1:22:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Her images really strong?

1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Is that a see through horse?

1:23:03.080 --> 1:23:10.200
<v Speaker 3>It was it was special, it was special, like yeah,

1:23:12.320 --> 1:23:15.120
<v Speaker 3>like that those reinventions. There's Madonna and then that's Beyonce.

1:23:15.439 --> 1:23:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, Madonna. She knows how to reinvent her

1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:20.960
<v Speaker 2>just turning in all the time.

1:23:20.960 --> 1:23:24.759
<v Speaker 1>And and everyone who's on board is changing clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're not an army. No more cool.

1:23:28.280 --> 1:23:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh I got to say something. I just saw Dinah

1:23:30.840 --> 1:23:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Ross on stage and she looks like a gazillion dollars.

1:23:36.080 --> 1:23:37.240
<v Speaker 1>That's what she does.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to mix Dina Ross in with beyond that.

1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:46.000
<v Speaker 2>You can do that change so many times. And I'm

1:23:46.040 --> 1:23:48.160
<v Speaker 2>telling you her outfice look like every dress you wore

1:23:48.240 --> 1:23:50.519
<v Speaker 2>looked like it costs at least a million, Like she

1:23:50.720 --> 1:23:52.440
<v Speaker 2>looked beautiful.

1:23:52.680 --> 1:24:00.200
<v Speaker 3>That's what does Yes, it's all elegance, elegance, all high level.

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<v Speaker 1>Business, circle star.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was a little I just saw that five

1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:06.479
<v Speaker 4>years old, and she brought my brother on stage to sing.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Dinah Ross. I didn't get to mention her too.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Dinass.

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<v Speaker 1>This is fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun, okay, okay, So yeah, Diana, you had to mix.

1:24:16.800 --> 1:24:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I was mixing a little Diana Ross and and Beyonce.

1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that. I love that mix.

1:24:23.880 --> 1:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>The passion of the artists. Who means it, who makes

1:24:26.880 --> 1:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you feel it?

1:24:29.840 --> 1:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Karen Clark. Yeah, when I hear her songs, it brings

1:24:34.880 --> 1:24:36.800
<v Speaker 2>to her like I literally cry when I listen to

1:24:36.840 --> 1:24:37.240
<v Speaker 2>her music.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I feel her both criers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I cried. It's okay, cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for the love of black man. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be I'm not group the group. I am in

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<v Speaker 1>the group.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are an agreeas in the group. You are

1:25:04.720 --> 1:25:05.200
<v Speaker 2>in the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me and now I'm crying. Let me out. O man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great, it is great. Just you know, just a

1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:18.400
<v Speaker 1>thug tear. What's okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go and what's the name of the saying,

1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:22.800
<v Speaker 3>what's the title of the single for this artist, for

1:25:22.880 --> 1:25:24.759
<v Speaker 3>this artist, what's she gonna name the single?

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<v Speaker 2>Smiling through it all?

1:25:30.040 --> 1:25:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Smiling through it all?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, smiling through it all.

1:25:41.360 --> 1:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's really good at this right for don't

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<v Speaker 1>take our title Jimmy Jam turn noise. We got it first.

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<v Speaker 1>Smiling through it all?

1:25:55.120 --> 1:25:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Is it because I've been through the ringer? But I'm still,

1:25:59.200 --> 1:26:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, smiling all In with.

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<v Speaker 1>That, I'm going to the pewter when I get home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's go.

1:26:06.800 --> 1:26:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start tickling the I I mean strings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, will be in the studio, both of us crying.

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<v Speaker 4>So here we are very important segment of the show,

1:26:29.280 --> 1:26:32.080
<v Speaker 4>so important called I Ain't saying no names. You tell

1:26:32.160 --> 1:26:35.080
<v Speaker 4>us a story funny and funked up, a funny and

1:26:35.240 --> 1:26:38.519
<v Speaker 4>fucked up. The only rude to the game is you

1:26:38.600 --> 1:26:39.360
<v Speaker 4>can't say no name.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you stories that's funny, funked up, but

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<v Speaker 2>just don't say the person's name.

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<v Speaker 1>No names, no not now name. You can say occupation,

1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you can say was you not who you was with?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So do let me tell you a story you okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>So there was an artist recording artists that was really

1:27:06.479 --> 1:27:10.479
<v Speaker 2>big at the time, and the person's song single just

1:27:10.560 --> 1:27:12.439
<v Speaker 2>came out and I had to be on the same

1:27:12.520 --> 1:27:15.400
<v Speaker 2>show with her, and I was so excited because they

1:27:15.439 --> 1:27:18.360
<v Speaker 2>had our names on the dressing We had to share

1:27:18.439 --> 1:27:21.599
<v Speaker 2>dress rooms together. So I got to my dressing room.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to dress room first, and my mom was

1:27:23.960 --> 1:27:26.559
<v Speaker 2>with me and my grandmother was with me. So when

1:27:26.600 --> 1:27:29.320
<v Speaker 2>the artist came in, she looked around and she had

1:27:29.360 --> 1:27:31.120
<v Speaker 2>a towel wrapped around her neck, and she said, my

1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:34.120
<v Speaker 2>sharing dress rooms with nobody. She walked out and sat

1:27:34.240 --> 1:27:36.160
<v Speaker 2>on the hallway floor and demanded that she had her

1:27:36.200 --> 1:27:38.920
<v Speaker 2>own dressing room. So I thought that was pretty messed up,

1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was crushed. And every time her song would

1:27:41.880 --> 1:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>come on the radio, my grandmother would say, turn that off,

1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:46.280
<v Speaker 2>and so she would turn her music all every time,

1:27:47.240 --> 1:27:49.879
<v Speaker 2>So that that was really messed up. That hurt my feelings.

1:27:52.040 --> 1:27:56.000
<v Speaker 3>We don't have to be that way. Yeah, but maybe

1:27:56.200 --> 1:28:03.040
<v Speaker 3>in fairness, yeah okay, And it probably wasn't about you,

1:28:03.880 --> 1:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>and more so about the promoter what maybe.

1:28:07.000 --> 1:28:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Was promised to her right And and I've read to

1:28:09.520 --> 1:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>this person over the years, like recently, and that person

1:28:12.160 --> 1:28:14.719
<v Speaker 2>is super nice to me. But that was my first

1:28:15.120 --> 1:28:16.879
<v Speaker 2>that was your intro, My intro.

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<v Speaker 1>Meet you too, ready to share space with you.

1:28:24.200 --> 1:28:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I was so excited. So my feelings, yeah, my feelings

1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>got hurt and.

1:28:29.360 --> 1:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>He was probably smiling and everything, and Jesus, yeah, didn't

1:28:33.000 --> 1:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>see when he said in the hallway.

1:28:35.040 --> 1:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't say the person's name, but it was another

1:28:37.000 --> 1:28:39.439
<v Speaker 2>person that wanted to do a duet with me and

1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:43.200
<v Speaker 2>the label told him no. But I'm not going to

1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:46.759
<v Speaker 2>say yeah, they said no, and they said I don't understand.

1:28:46.800 --> 1:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I said I don't understand either, and so that was pretty.

1:28:53.360 --> 1:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So he came and told you like they told me.

1:28:58.000 --> 1:29:00.439
<v Speaker 1>I was like, why, but you wanted to I want

1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to do it.

1:29:03.640 --> 1:29:05.960
<v Speaker 2>So when you talk about politics.

1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I know all about that or you know, you

1:29:07.439 --> 1:29:10.280
<v Speaker 3>were in it when the politic was was heavy everything.

1:29:10.600 --> 1:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, my feelings have been my feelings have been

1:29:13.760 --> 1:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>hurt on several occasions and I'm like why, Like what

1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>did I do? You know? So, yeah, that's another story

1:29:22.120 --> 1:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>that's messed up.

1:29:22.920 --> 1:29:26.880
<v Speaker 3>You were you were also a heavy commodity and people

1:29:26.960 --> 1:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>were trying to figure out you know, a lot of

1:29:29.000 --> 1:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>people trying to want to control that.

1:29:30.400 --> 1:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I want to have their hands in on it. Heavy

1:29:33.960 --> 1:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>standing next to how they saying it you know, to

1:29:37.439 --> 1:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>read the reason she is that because I made sure

1:29:40.000 --> 1:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of that right doing that.

1:29:42.520 --> 1:29:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I wish and we speak about this

1:29:46.320 --> 1:29:51.519
<v Speaker 4>like I wish that Chris Brown's would have come along earlier.

1:29:51.800 --> 1:29:52.400
<v Speaker 1>In R and B.

1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:56.880
<v Speaker 4>I love Chris, Chris Cherish his wealth. He works with everybody,

1:29:57.000 --> 1:30:00.800
<v Speaker 4>the songs with everybody, and he doesn't and it was

1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:01.519
<v Speaker 4>his idea to do.

1:30:01.640 --> 1:30:02.559
<v Speaker 2>I love your smile too.

1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:06.080
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't let the labels get in the way of

1:30:06.360 --> 1:30:09.040
<v Speaker 4>who he just wants to work with. And for so long,

1:30:09.160 --> 1:30:12.640
<v Speaker 4>like you said that, politic kept so many artists from

1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:15.840
<v Speaker 4>doing records together, people who were actually friends.

1:30:16.520 --> 1:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>And people and people who may have thought, maybe we're.

1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Not friends because of those things that labeled politic and

1:30:23.400 --> 1:30:26.519
<v Speaker 4>a manager saying something to the artists and you feel

1:30:26.560 --> 1:30:29.120
<v Speaker 4>away because you don't really know the person.

1:30:29.760 --> 1:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>But now we you know, we have this.

1:30:31.840 --> 1:30:35.560
<v Speaker 4>Where you'll see multiple R and B artists doing a

1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:36.200
<v Speaker 4>record together.

1:30:37.000 --> 1:30:37.439
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

1:30:37.560 --> 1:30:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Now everybody you know, and it could have been, like

1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:44.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, rappers are good, they collaborate, Rappers collaborating the.

1:30:46.840 --> 1:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Smoke together, they sol drugs together, they were locked up together,

1:30:52.880 --> 1:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>they're in the gang together. Like their togetherness was already

1:30:57.680 --> 1:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>like part of the package. Right, we're just once plucked

1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>out of church one at a time. We need like

1:31:03.920 --> 1:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>an R and B tang clan, we do, that's true.

1:31:07.000 --> 1:31:09.640
<v Speaker 2>We need like nine young like yeah, that would be,

1:31:10.479 --> 1:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>that would be, that would be dope. I did the

1:31:13.680 --> 1:31:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Soul cipher on Soul Train with Chante, Moore, PJ. Morton,

1:31:20.240 --> 1:31:21.120
<v Speaker 2>and Stokely.

1:31:21.600 --> 1:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we all did it together. So that's kind of

1:31:25.000 --> 1:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>similar to Chante.

1:31:26.040 --> 1:31:27.840
<v Speaker 4>You're the only one she named that has not been

1:31:27.920 --> 1:31:30.720
<v Speaker 4>on the R and B Money podcast. Against has been

1:31:30.760 --> 1:31:35.840
<v Speaker 4>on the podcast, has been on the podcast. Yes, has

1:31:35.920 --> 1:31:38.000
<v Speaker 4>done the podcast. And you told me that she was

1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:42.320
<v Speaker 4>coming to and we both from San Francisco. You have

1:31:42.439 --> 1:31:43.960
<v Speaker 4>to do you have to do this podcast?

1:31:44.160 --> 1:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, please, Kelly, take this phone, take this phone. That's

1:31:53.800 --> 1:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the wrong song too, that's the wrong soul.

1:31:56.320 --> 1:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>But I also have a funny story. I was a

1:31:58.960 --> 1:32:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Flex was talking that It was after an award show

1:32:02.040 --> 1:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>and he was in the press room and he was

1:32:03.760 --> 1:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>talking this is funny, but oh he said, don't say

1:32:06.080 --> 1:32:10.240
<v Speaker 2>any names. Well Flex was there, Yeah, yeah, he was there,

1:32:10.360 --> 1:32:12.439
<v Speaker 2>but he was standing next to somewhere really big and

1:32:12.520 --> 1:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>they were talking on the microphone that was in a

1:32:14.880 --> 1:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>press room and I was standing on the side of

1:32:17.120 --> 1:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>the stage and I was just pregnant with my son,

1:32:20.640 --> 1:32:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and I said, let me go sit down because I

1:32:22.840 --> 1:32:24.720
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be in the way. So I went

1:32:24.800 --> 1:32:27.519
<v Speaker 2>to sit him to sit down, and I tripped over

1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>the speaker and I led and I fell in front

1:32:31.040 --> 1:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>of everybody in the press room. And then the person,

1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:36.439
<v Speaker 2>the celebrity that FLEX was standing next to, he had

1:32:36.479 --> 1:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>the microphone in his hand and he said, it's all right,

1:32:39.320 --> 1:32:45.080
<v Speaker 2>don't be embarrassed. Don't be embarrassed. So everybody's looking at

1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:46.639
<v Speaker 2>me and I'm on the floor in the press room.

1:32:46.680 --> 1:32:49.320
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so that was embarrassing in front of that celebrity.

1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>You're all right, Oh, I was good.

1:32:53.280 --> 1:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was That was years ago. But that was

1:32:54.960 --> 1:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>just a funny story. Yeah. Yeah.

1:32:57.920 --> 1:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You're probably one of the most awesome persons human beings

1:33:01.479 --> 1:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Thank you. The combination of you and

1:33:03.680 --> 1:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>your husband, it all makes sense. Thank you. Good people

1:33:07.840 --> 1:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>finding good people and I don't know, man, just just

1:33:13.040 --> 1:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>making this world a better place. Shout shout out to.

1:33:19.720 --> 1:33:24.439
<v Speaker 4>You know yet it was it was everybody knows about

1:33:24.479 --> 1:33:28.080
<v Speaker 4>that place I've been apartment building.

1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what that's what we need.

1:33:30.400 --> 1:33:30.639
<v Speaker 1>Money.

1:33:31.640 --> 1:33:33.640
<v Speaker 3>Almost moved in there too, really, that's what we met.

1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>I was like, let's record deal money. I was like,

1:33:36.640 --> 1:33:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I see what's going on in there.

1:33:38.479 --> 1:33:40.280
<v Speaker 2>But at the time, I'm being honest. When I moved

1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:41.880
<v Speaker 2>in there, it was like, for one Baron was like

1:33:41.920 --> 1:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>thirteen hundred a month. No. Yeah, but then but now

1:33:46.400 --> 1:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>that same apartment, it's like probably like four thousand a

1:33:49.200 --> 1:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>month easy, probably.

1:33:50.280 --> 1:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>More than that. Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna whoop be because.

1:33:53.880 --> 1:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>That location is because I think what friend of my

1:33:56.840 --> 1:33:58.639
<v Speaker 2>checked a couple of years ago. It was like four

1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>thousand it.

1:34:00.240 --> 1:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>Anywhere from over there. Yeah, you get anywhere in twenty

1:34:03.320 --> 1:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>highway right there.

1:34:04.120 --> 1:34:07.479
<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking like thirteen hundred a month. Back then,

1:34:07.600 --> 1:34:09.400
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, I was like, that's what thirteen

1:34:09.960 --> 1:34:10.200
<v Speaker 2>I had.

1:34:11.240 --> 1:34:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I had a two bedroom in Ranch and cucka Manga.

1:34:14.280 --> 1:34:15.280
<v Speaker 1>It's like twelve hundred.

1:34:15.840 --> 1:34:17.759
<v Speaker 2>See, it's not like that anymore.

1:34:18.080 --> 1:34:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I need that back, No, right, I need that.

1:34:24.840 --> 1:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1:34:25.200 --> 1:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm think I'm baby from Caney, right. I

1:34:29.000 --> 1:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Nigga for a focus with the Corinthian eleven cruisers, Wow,

1:34:38.800 --> 1:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>niggas didn't realize it, but they were being economical as

1:34:42.200 --> 1:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker. Think about it.

1:34:44.600 --> 1:34:50.160
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't ten Bentley's, it was ten custom pet cruisers.

1:34:51.080 --> 1:34:54.439
<v Speaker 1>We saved money, but we still look but they weren't

1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>holding on to him for ten years like Shanese.

1:34:56.800 --> 1:34:58.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I held on for ten years.

1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>That three. I love it. You know you got three

1:35:06.400 --> 1:35:10.240
<v Speaker 1>four years max? Right? Do you say that you got

1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of? Yeah? You done? All right? Yeah,

1:35:13.720 --> 1:35:14.560
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate you.

1:35:15.080 --> 1:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Can, I say, yes, you can. I have a vegan

1:35:18.720 --> 1:35:21.439
<v Speaker 2>lipstick line. It's called Smile by Shines, and I'm actually

1:35:21.479 --> 1:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>wearing the lipstick right now, so I have to give

1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:27.320
<v Speaker 2>a shout smile to your camera. Smile byes. Go to

1:35:27.439 --> 1:35:30.479
<v Speaker 2>my website smile by Chinese dot com and get my

1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>lipstick line is vegan, it's long lasting. You love it

1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and I have several have five different colors.

1:35:37.640 --> 1:35:41.439
<v Speaker 1>So and that's why media training is needed.

1:35:42.040 --> 1:35:47.240
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm not done. Thanks to say that.

1:35:47.479 --> 1:35:50.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say, and you call me up here,

1:35:51.040 --> 1:35:54.600
<v Speaker 3>let me talk. I can say what I'm doing and

1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:55.600
<v Speaker 3>how I'm doing it.

1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:00.200
<v Speaker 2>What my.

1:36:02.720 --> 1:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Smile by You got anything else? Smile by Shawn, that's it.

1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a vegan and it's vegan.

1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>It's vegan.

1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, smile through it all, smile through we are we yeah.

1:36:16.000 --> 1:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's coming.

1:36:20.520 --> 1:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate you,

1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:27.679
<v Speaker 1>thanks for having My name is Tank, I'm Jay Valentine.

1:36:27.760 --> 1:36:29.760
<v Speaker 3>This is the Army Money Podcast, the authority on all

1:36:29.840 --> 1:36:34.120
<v Speaker 3>things R and B things, and this has just been

1:36:34.680 --> 1:36:40.160
<v Speaker 3>a breath of fresh air, array of sunshine and smiling

1:36:40.280 --> 1:36:40.800
<v Speaker 3>through it all.