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Speaker 1: smarter as to what their tactics, techniques, and procedures are,

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Speaker 1: um to the point where now we just see it

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Speaker 1: an evenly divided country. I mean, we we have we

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Speaker 1: have gained some ground, but at the same time we

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Speaker 1: have to recognize and this is going to be the

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Speaker 1: great challenge of the Trump administration. Can he turn a

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Speaker 1: the foundation from which of the springboard from which to

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Speaker 1: build a movement which really truly changes things. And and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wrote a very small book that we

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Speaker 1: had my writing over the last two years about the

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Speaker 1: the emergence of the anti Washington candidates, and then the

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Speaker 1: emergence of Trump among the group, and then the total

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Speaker 1: failure of the news media to understand it. But if,

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Speaker 1: but if you look at, for example, the New York

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Speaker 1: Times story this morning about Trump on foreign policy, it's

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Speaker 1: just methodically, systematically dishonest. I mean, it's just like reading

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Speaker 1: Provda you you you get this, uh, totally phony report

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Speaker 1: with totally phony language, and yet that's in the New

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Speaker 1: York Times. Remains despite everything, one of the most important

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Speaker 1: guides to the rest of the news media in setting

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Speaker 1: the tone. And this is a real problem. And my

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Speaker 1: my greatest concern for President elect Trump and his team

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Speaker 1: is that they will forget that these people are their

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Speaker 1: mortal opponents and will do anything they can to beat them,

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Speaker 1: and they'll start trying to figure out how to accommodate him.

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Speaker 1: And that's the beginning of the end, because we cannot

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Speaker 1: accommodate the left and have any hope of turning turning

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Speaker 1: America around. It's the same thing with Putin is he's

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Speaker 1: a trained KGB officer, and although he may be nice

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Speaker 1: to certain people, you always got to watch them because

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Speaker 1: and it's the same thing with the Democratic Party. They

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Speaker 1: are they will take Trump out in a heartbeat and

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Speaker 1: not think twice about it. Well, it's part of why

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Speaker 1: Reagan said trust but verify exactly, you know, the the

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Speaker 1: I talked to New York Times reporters all the time,

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Speaker 1: how really difficult it is to communicate past them. But

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Speaker 1: in the free society, you have to find ways. This

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Speaker 1: is this is where Reagan was really good, because he

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Speaker 1: knew if he was repetitive long enough, it got through.

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Speaker 1: Despite the news media, Trump has used the social media

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Speaker 1: brilliantly to achieve the same goal. And when he tweets

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Speaker 1: right past the elite media, which of course is why

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Speaker 1: they hate it when he doesn't, because they know that

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Speaker 1: he is undermining all of their clout, which is based

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Speaker 1: on on their ability to control what people learn. And

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Speaker 1: he's reaching the American people despite the elite media. You know, sir,

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, speaking of the media, one thing that

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Speaker 1: personal pain. I'm a little aggressive. Is get rid of

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Speaker 1: the press room. I think that that should be handed

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Speaker 1: over the Secret Service. They have no walker room, no

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Speaker 1: or take a break. I'd go halfway with you. I

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Speaker 1: for Facebook. I think they ought to accept questions from

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Speaker 1: around the country. Um. There are I think there are

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Speaker 1: five d some members of the White House Press Corps.

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Speaker 1: So they could routinely uh. You know, each each press

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Speaker 1: why why would you if if you were a change agent,

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Speaker 1: uh like President elect Trump, why would you make the

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Speaker 1: New York Times and the Washington Post and CBS News

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Speaker 1: the front row of your briefing? These people who have

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Speaker 1: been in every way conceivable, the mortal opponents of Trump

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Speaker 1: is um. Uh, they are to this day they continue

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Speaker 1: to be dishonest and inaccurate and inflammatory. And why would

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Speaker 1: you reward them by putting them on the front row.

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Speaker 1: I would literally rotate them so that they would get

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Speaker 1: their share of the five fifty seats, which means that

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Speaker 1: seven out out of every eight briefings. I'd also have

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Speaker 1: questions from local news stations around the country. You could

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Speaker 1: take questions from citizens. I mean, if you combine Facebook

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Speaker 1: a way that would really dramatically open up the system.

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Speaker 1: But if they did that, you would have clarity versus

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Speaker 1: when the media does interviews, it's always from a biased standpoint.

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Speaker 1: That's why, like I was gonna say, I would just

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Speaker 1: have them sit outside the fence and have Spicer come

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Speaker 1: down there and talk to him through the fence like

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Speaker 1: he was civilian. Your step more radical than I I say.

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Speaker 1: That was some respect. So let me ask you this one.

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Speaker 1: We got a few more minutes here. Um, why do

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Speaker 1: and did you see this when you were in office?

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Speaker 1: Why does the left hate America so bad? And do

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Speaker 1: they actually hate the Constitution because it seems like they

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Speaker 1: want to change it any chance they get. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a deep stream of left wing literary and

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Speaker 1: intellectual thought going all the way back to the progressive

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Speaker 1: prayer in the turn of the of the nineteenth century

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Speaker 1: George Washington. And yet any Clifton, I've done a movie

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Speaker 1: um called The First American about George Washington Evertt and

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Speaker 1: to realize that that that here was a giant, Here

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Speaker 1: And yet on the left, there's this desperate effort to

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Speaker 1: debunk him because they have to shrink him in order

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Speaker 1: to shrink America. And the left has had a long tradition,

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Speaker 1: some of it being European socialist and European communists who

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Speaker 1: the twenties and thirties, and there's this deep infusion of

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Speaker 1: people who are anti capitalist and anti nationalists. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: and who never quite acquired the romantic heart of the

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Speaker 1: American experience. And and so they really focused on taking

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Speaker 1: over the educational establishment and then ultimately, over time, taking

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Speaker 1: over Hollywood and the news media. And they represent those

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Speaker 1: are the folks who if you say, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: proud to be an American, they go, oh, my gosh,

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Speaker 1: you're one of those nationalists. If you say I'm for

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Speaker 1: America first, they go, oh my gosh, you must be

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Speaker 1: an isolationist. And the question you have to ask me, so,

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Speaker 1: who are you gonna put first? You're gonna put the

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Speaker 1: u N first. Of it's a collection of kleptocratic dictatorships

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Speaker 1: and irresponsible bureaucrats. You're gonna put some accord in Paris first.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna put you know, diplomats and lawyers sitting in

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Speaker 1: five star hotels that gourmet restaurants, striking fancy deals first. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And of course what Trump resonated with was he communicated

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Speaker 1: with the American people, I care about you. They don't

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Speaker 1: care about everybody in in small town America where Trump

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Speaker 1: beat Hillary by huge margins and where people turned out

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Speaker 1: to vote who had never before voted. Uh, They had

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Speaker 1: this sense that nobody cared about them. Their town was decaying,

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Speaker 1: they had no hope, they had no future, and along

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Speaker 1: comes Donald J. Trump and they suddenly say, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's give it one more try. And that's really what

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Speaker 1: this was about. Gotta go, sir, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: It was an honor talking to you. And you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is gonna keep hope alive. That's for absolute sure. Listen,

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Speaker 1: join us. We're gonna come right back. This John and

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Speaker 1: gill And filled in for Shawn Hannity on the Shawn

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Speaker 1: Hannity Radio Show. This is Jonathan gill And filling in

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Speaker 1: for Shawn Hannity on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. And

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Speaker 1: we are going to bring on just a second. I

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Speaker 1: just want to say there's some breaking news that they

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Speaker 1: are giving away uh pH d doctoral diplomas. If you

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Speaker 1: go and see the play Hamilton's, you automatically become an expert.

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Speaker 1: So I just heard that on the street somewhere in

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Speaker 1: New York. Okay, maybe it's not breaking these but find

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Speaker 1: me on Twitter, Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal. You can find

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Speaker 1: me on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. And also I

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Speaker 1: do have a website Jonathan T. Gilliam dot com. I

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Speaker 1: do a Facebook Live show every night at nine pm.

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Speaker 1: I like to lead right into Sean on Fox News.

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Speaker 1: I like to think that I get the millions of

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Speaker 1: viewers on Facebook and they're just screwing me over saying

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Speaker 1: that we have eighty at one time. So come on,

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Speaker 1: come onto the show. Find me Jonathan T. Guilliam on

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Speaker 1: Facebook and be a part of the dialogue. It's that's

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Speaker 1: what's so great about this show is that and what

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Speaker 1: Facebook has done. This is one thing that I agree

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Speaker 1: that Facebook has done, is it's given us the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to go around the mainstream media and discuss the real

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Speaker 1: facts and the real problems that are going on in

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Speaker 1: this country with like minded people. So I do take

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Speaker 1: calls and we have discussions, uh that you can um

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Speaker 1: you can get involved with. And it's a great time

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Speaker 1: every night at nine pm on Facebook Live. Just look

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Speaker 1: for Jonathan T. Gilliam. Now I'm excited about this next interview.

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Speaker 1: If you're driving down the road, stay right here and listen.

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Speaker 1: If you just pulled into your house, sit in your

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Speaker 1: car and don't turn the car off, because you're gonna

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Speaker 1: want to hear this. This is UH Bill Benny, former

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Speaker 1: technical director of the n s A World Geopolitical and

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Speaker 1: Military Analysis and Reporting Group. Man. That is a title.

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Speaker 1: That that's a title just spells smart Bill and then

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Speaker 1: UH Kurt weeby former senior analysts UH for the n

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Speaker 1: s A. Both are considered whistleblowers, which you know in

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Speaker 1: my book, especially in the past eight years, tells me

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Speaker 1: that you guys are gutsy individuals that probably saw the

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Speaker 1: reality and couldn't stand it anymore. So, guys, but it's

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to have you both. I love talking to

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Speaker 1: to fellow operators and people that are intel UH operator,

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Speaker 1: Intel officers, and people that understand the reality of what's

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Speaker 1: going on. I know, Bill, you and I talked last

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Speaker 1: on because I wanted to expand on some of this

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Speaker 1: stuff and I talked to New Gingrich earlier and my

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Speaker 1: opening statements are all about communism and the reality of

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Speaker 1: how the people on the far left are really using

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Speaker 1: communist type tactics, the big lie to make things big.

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Speaker 1: They use the Hegelian dialect to uh go and either

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Speaker 1: find or create a problem so they can manufacture a

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Speaker 1: reaction and then offer a solution that doesn't do anybody

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Speaker 1: any good except for whatever movement that they have. So

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Speaker 1: I guess the question for you guys is we talked

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Speaker 1: about last week on here about the Russian UH hacking

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Speaker 1: of our system and affecting the election process. You know,

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Speaker 1: I I look at a lot of this as UH.

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Speaker 1: When you don't secure your computers, when you put them

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Speaker 1: in your your bathroom, your servers in your bathroom and

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Speaker 1: you do classified UH stuff on there. When you have

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Speaker 1: they call and tell you that you're a target, you

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Speaker 1: could probably be a target. And how do you guys

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Speaker 1: feel about that? Oh? I think that's absolutely right. I mean,

644
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Speaker 1: it's also true that everybody, every country in the world

645
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Speaker 1: hacks every other country. I mean we do it, like,

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Speaker 1: for example, the Chancellor Merkel and every other leader in

647
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Speaker 1: the world as well. But it's not it's not limited

648
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Speaker 1: to us. Everybody's doing it to everybody else. Is they're

649
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Speaker 1: trying to gather information and intelligence on everybody in the

650
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Speaker 1: world as best they can do, and it's it's according

651
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Speaker 1: to their resources and capabilities as to how much they

652
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Speaker 1: can really achieve. Yeah, and I think a perfect example

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Speaker 1: that is the fact that Barack Obama's administration had operatives

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Speaker 1: on the ground in Israel during during that election. And

655
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Speaker 1: you know Israel spying on us too. I mean we

656
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Speaker 1: we've caught some of them doing that too. So so

657
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Speaker 1: how much of this I mean, honestly, and I know

658
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Speaker 1: you guys have been asked this question a million times,

659
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Speaker 1: but just tell the American people, just straight out, what

660
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Speaker 1: is the reality of the Russians involvement here and how

661
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Speaker 1: much effect did they actually have on um inciting the

662
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Speaker 1: people in the United States to vote for Donald Trump. Well, Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: let me let me say this. I'd like your audience

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Speaker 1: to pause and think for a moment who had more

665
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Speaker 1: effect over the United States election? The mass media is

666
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Speaker 1: the big media, the NBC, CNN's, ABC, s MSNBC, you

667
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: name it, or the Russians, and I will guarantee you

668
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Speaker 1: most people will tell you the US media. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a good point you bring up there, because I've been

670
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Speaker 1: saying since the DNC was hacked. This is before the

671
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Speaker 1: wiki leagues and the stuff about the server. I think

672
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: the server stuff had already come out, but I kept saying,

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Speaker 1: I think the d n C hacked themselves through third

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Speaker 1: party UM operators over in Russia to make it look

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Speaker 1: like they were hacked by Russia so that they could

676
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Speaker 1: play the victim card. Now that's my theory on it,

677
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: and it plays right into what you're saying there, absolutely right.

678
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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at right now Congressman Adam Schiff from

679
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Speaker 1: California on CNN. He's really well home on CNN because

680
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Speaker 1: all that comes out of his mouth or lies, and

681
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: it's this is a guy who spends this propaganda big time. Well,

682
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Speaker 1: I think it's a it's all just tyd of manufacturer

683
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Speaker 1: an issue to divert from the from the basic truths

684
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Speaker 1: that are trying to be you know, spread around by

685
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Speaker 1: I think Wicked Links is giving us the truth and

686
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: everybody else is lying about it. Do you do you

687
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: think that, uh, there's there's people to say Snowdon had

688
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Speaker 1: something to do with this, that he was instrumental in this.

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Speaker 1: How do people I guess the question I had for

690
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Speaker 1: you is, how do people educate themselves? They're not gonna

691
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Speaker 1: go work for the n s A like you guys did.

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Speaker 1: How do they educate themselves and find fact from fiction?

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Speaker 1: When it comes to dealing with the mainstream media and

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Speaker 1: cyber issues, Well, you, it's a different world today for

695
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: sure than it was, say, thirty years ago, forty years ago, Jonathan,

696
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Speaker 1: In terms of where one gets one's information, it is

697
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: ten times more difficult to get information you can rely

698
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Speaker 1: on today than it was back in the day. Um,

699
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Speaker 1: we have journalists who have become propagandists. Uh. Today's mainstream

700
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: media is every bit as biased as Provada was during

701
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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, and a lot of people may not

702
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: know what the word provda and Russian means truth. I

703
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: am a Russian linguist to have a master's degree in it,

704
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Speaker 1: and that was my specialty at NSA before I got

705
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: involved in digital communications and how the internet works. But

706
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: the point of it is when you spread a rumor

707
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: wide enough and repeat it multiple times, people begin to

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Speaker 1: believe in it. There's a concerted effort to do that

709
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Speaker 1: to the American people, to the to the European people

710
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: throughout Western civilization, and we've definitely got to be prepared

711
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Speaker 1: and have news outlets that we can rely I on.

712
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to do today. There's no simple answer.

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Speaker 1: But they are not the mainstream media now that's where

714
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Speaker 1: I think I was just talking about my Facebook Live show.

715
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Speaker 1: I think that's where uh Facebook Live is going to

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Speaker 1: pay off. And what's interesting though about this whole fake

717
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Speaker 1: news issue that's coming out lately, is that the mainstream media, um,

718
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Speaker 1: just like the Wiki likes thing, they talk about fake

719
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Speaker 1: news more than than anything else, like it's the other

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Speaker 1: people that are doing fake news, when in fact they're

721
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Speaker 1: the ones doing more fake news than anybody. Um. Ahead

722
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Speaker 1: pretty much true. I mean, you could look at the

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Speaker 1: Clapper when he testified to or Alexander when they testified

724
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Speaker 1: a Congress. Chances are that if they open their mouth

725
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Speaker 1: and say anything, either of it is either an outright

726
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: law or a distortion of the truth. So they're basically

727
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: trying to keep everybody uninformed or mismisinformed, so they can

728
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Speaker 1: actually manipulate them anyway they want. And that's pretty much

729
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Speaker 1: true of this government. That's basically what they've been in

730
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Speaker 1: the intelligence community has been doing all along. So let

731
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Speaker 1: me ask you guys this, and I think we touched

732
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Speaker 1: on this last week, but it's become more apparent now

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Speaker 1: to me that the c i A and the n

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Speaker 1: s A, when they say that they got together and

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Speaker 1: released a report which we still have not seen. They're

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Speaker 1: really talking about the political appointees. They're not talking about

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Speaker 1: the operations officers or the analysts. It seems to me

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Speaker 1: as though the information UH that gets reported in the

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Speaker 1: news as being released is really a controlled press release

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Speaker 1: which is done by these higher ups. Yeah. I think

741
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Speaker 1: you could take an example in the past, like weapons

742
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: of mass destruction is a slam dunk. They all agreed

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00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: to that too. Exactly exactly, Um, did you when you

744
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Speaker 1: when you guys were in the fields that you were in.

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm reading the background you guys, UM,

746
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Speaker 1: And you talk about evaluating information. What is more important

747
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Speaker 1: to these executives at the top. Is it actually doing

748
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: things like coming up with new systems to evaluate information

749
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: so America safer, or is just appeasing the politicians and

750
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Speaker 1: in this case the Democratic Party. Yeah, it's definitely not

751
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Speaker 1: doing the mission. Years ago, it was the mission at

752
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: the top of the priority list. Now it's one's career, UM,

753
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Speaker 1: one's financial welfare in the future. UM. Eisenhower's military industrial complex,

754
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: which I really thought was an argument from the left

755
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: side of the political UH spectrum forty years ago, is

756
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: really here. It's here in spades that Eisenhower saw what

757
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: was going on in Washington, d C. With big contracts

758
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: and industry feathering of nests, the rotation between the d

759
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Speaker 1: D and people becoming vice presidents in major corporations, Beltway

760
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: bandits we call them. Um, he would flip over in

761
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: his grave. He he really would, because it's here in

762
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: its full effect. And what that means is we destroy

763
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: our form of democrat see, because everything becomes about one's

764
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: financial welfare instead of the welfare of the government the

765
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Speaker 1: United States. People are soldiers. It all becomes secondary. And

766
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Speaker 1: I know, Jonathan, you're aware of the faux pile over

767
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Speaker 1: armored hum v's and what happened in the do O

768
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Speaker 1: D when trouble in the Middle East began years ago. Um,

769
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: but the this kind of corruption goes right to our belly.

770
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: And and and this when when Trump says he needs

771
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: to drain the swamp, boy does he? But that swamps

772
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: a hundred feet deep, and he's going to need all

773
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Speaker 1: kinds of soldiers, people who are dedicated, mission oriented and honest,

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Speaker 1: and who knows something about acquisition enough to control it

775
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: so that people end up making decisions based on cost

776
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: benefit analyzes and the facts rather than lucrative contracts that

777
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: paid back huge sums to people who want to get rich. Well,

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00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was told a long time ago. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna I think I did give this information out

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Speaker 1: part of it on UM on Facebook Live. But I

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00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: know somebody who knew Colon Powell and Colin Powe is

782
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: about to retire, and they asked him if he had

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Speaker 1: career lined up when he gets out, and he laughed

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00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: and told them, um, pretty much in confidence that uh, well,

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00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: actually it's a known system, just what you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: where they will go out um and and while they're

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00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: in office they scratch people's bags. Now they're not told

788
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: to do that because that'd be committing a crime, but

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00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: they know, they know how because the system is in

790
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: place that they can do certain things, get certain contracts

791
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: with people, allow certain bids to go here or there,

792
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 1: and when they get out, they'll get a book deal,

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Speaker 1: they get put on the board of several several companies

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Speaker 1: where they only to be there once a year and

795
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: they make a hundred grand or more at these different boards. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They they will get appointed to something in a cabinet

797
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Speaker 1: and then they go on to speaking to her and

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00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: they become multimillionaires. Now they're basically getting paid back for

799
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Speaker 1: scratching the backs while they were in and uh. And

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Speaker 1: that's basically if you trace back all these individuals that

801
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Speaker 1: were at the highest levels and you look at what

802
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: happened to them when they got out, that's what happened

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00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: exactly right. Well, and that's why we refer to d

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Speaker 1: C as the district of corruption, and it's it's it's

805
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: it's fundamentally a corrupt process, the entire thing, and nobody

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00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: is holding them accountable for any of it. No, And

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00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: it's scary for men and women like us that have

808
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: sworn an oath to to support and defend the Constitution

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Speaker 1: against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Here's the part that's

810
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: left out of that. People don't realize. It's not the

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Speaker 1: d O D that determines who we're gonna fight and

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00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: when we're gonna fight him. That's politicians, most of who

813
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: have never served and for they usually pick the enemy

814
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: for reasons that nobody fully understands. Well that the scariest

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00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: part about that is the domestic enemy. And the domestic

816
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: enemy is who we're talking about, and they're the ones

817
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: who tell us who to fight. So they're never going

818
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: to tell us that we need to fight them never,

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Speaker 1: So never gonna get it's never gonna get fixed. Stunned,

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Speaker 1: both of your stunn can do it. Yeah, well, listen,

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Speaker 1: as I said earlier, he's gonna have to get rid

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Speaker 1: of the people that are are underneath that, the political appointees,

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Speaker 1: the people that are always there, the people that that

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Speaker 1: just don't have been their president after president. Like the

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Speaker 1: d J is eaten up with this. Yeah, he just

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Speaker 1: needs to remember his famous or his famous quote from

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Speaker 1: his uh TV show You're Fired. Yeah, exactly, he has

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Speaker 1: to remember that. Okay, we got about mist of the

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Speaker 1: people are really going to try to manipulate him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the intelligence community is going to come in right when

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Speaker 1: he moves in there. I'm you know, it's not a

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Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea that he's only taken one

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Speaker 1: brief a week. I mean a lot of it is

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Speaker 1: for manipulating the president. That's what these intelligence agencies do,

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Speaker 1: right right, we got about listen, we got about thirty

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Speaker 1: seconds left. I just want to ask you guys something.

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Speaker 1: We have all these databases, and we put people on

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Speaker 1: databases and we forget about them. Could it? Would it

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Speaker 1: work if when somebody like the Sarnaff brothers who were

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Speaker 1: contacted by another country and they say these people are dangerous,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't we be putting them on a separate database. Absolutely well,

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00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean they certainly should be higher priority for monitoring

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00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: and following and watching. Yeah, I mean that's the whole

844
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Speaker 1: idea of targeting. I mean, everybody that's committed a terrorist

845
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: attack around the world has always been known beforehand. They

846
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: just didn't follow them closely enough. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna

847
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: have you guys back next time on and uh, we

848
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Speaker 1: can't thank you all enough for your service. God bless

849
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: you have a merry Christmas. And I salute both of you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. This is a date Shawn Hannity

851
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Speaker 1: Radio Show. We'll be right back and now The Shawn

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Speaker 1: Hannity Show takes a little time out to list all

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Speaker 1: the great accomplishments of Barack Obama as president so far.

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Speaker 1: This is a Sean Hannity show. This is Jonathan Gilham

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Speaker 1: filling in on the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. We got

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Speaker 1: Scott you Linger coming up and retired CIA operator and listen,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna We're gonna continue this talk about communism and

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Speaker 1: about the reality of what's happening in Washington with the

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Speaker 1: liberal left. Find me on Twitter j Gilliam Underscore Seal

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Speaker 1: and on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. I'm reading all

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Speaker 1: your messages here is to keep it going. Uh literally,

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Speaker 1: what you're you're what you're saying to me is dialogue

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Speaker 1: to my ears. Will be right back. This is what's

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Speaker 1: right with America. You're listening to the Sean Hannity Show

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Speaker 1: and this is John and the guil I'm filling in

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Speaker 1: for Shawn Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. Again.

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Speaker 1: I know I keep saying this. Don't think I'm just

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Speaker 1: trying to do this for my own ego, but I

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Speaker 1: want you to find me on Twitter at Jay Gilliam

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Speaker 1: Underscore Seal because I love getting your information and your

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Speaker 1: thoughts and seeing your dialogue. Also, go to Facebook Jonathan T. William.

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Speaker 1: Let me know what you think about today's show. Tell

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Speaker 1: me your thoughts and I'll incorporate that in my show

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Speaker 1: that I have every night at nine pm on Facebook

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Speaker 1: Live called The Experts, and by the way, American people

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Speaker 1: have shown that they are experts and electing the right person,

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Speaker 1: uh in this two thousand and sixteen presidential election. Let

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Speaker 1: me just say this real quick before we bring in

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Speaker 1: my next guest. I'm a a guest host, a fill

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Speaker 1: in host for Serious X and Patriot Channel. So I

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Speaker 1: host for Andrew will Cow David Webb, and then I

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Speaker 1: come over here and host for Shawn Hannity from time

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Speaker 1: to time. And it is not uncommon for me to

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Speaker 1: call somebody, um, either Andrew Webb or David Hannity, and

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Speaker 1: which I just about was to call when we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go to break there. Well, just for clarity, Jonathan, this

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Speaker 1: is the Shawn Hannity, the Shawn Hannity Radio Show, and

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Speaker 1: you're hosting the Shawn Hannity Radio Show. And we're in

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Speaker 1: New York, right here in New York on the Shawn

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Speaker 1: Hannity Radio So I thought I'd gotten pasted. I thought

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Speaker 1: I almost said uh David, and I thought I'd gotten

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Speaker 1: pasted it. And when went to break, I checked my

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Speaker 1: phone and had literally five people right me and say

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Speaker 1: no David. So sorry, David, I'm hosting Sean show. But

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Speaker 1: now you know David Webb show. Actually I'll be hosting

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Speaker 1: his show next Uh, one think that's next Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 1: I think no, next Wednesday and Thursday. That's it, alright,

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Speaker 1: So let's bring in my next guest. We're gonna go

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Speaker 1: right along. The whole concept of today's show is basically

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Speaker 1: talking about the reality of the left and and the

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Speaker 1: dirty word that nobody wants to say, which is communism.

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Speaker 1: Now there's a new communism now. Uh not like it

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Speaker 1: was back in the old days where they tried to

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Speaker 1: force people into nationalism. Now it's hatred of the nation,

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Speaker 1: hatred of the constitution. You don't just see it here.

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Speaker 1: You see it in Canada. You see it in Great

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Speaker 1: Britain and France and Spain and Australia where people try

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Speaker 1: and definitely in Germany where they try to create a problem,

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Speaker 1: just like the Black Lives Matter group. Here, they find

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Speaker 1: a problem, they latch onto it, they try to make

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Speaker 1: it bigger and cause a reaction so they can offer

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Speaker 1: air solution. And their solution is always breakdown authority, get

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Speaker 1: rid of guns, tear down the the the border rolls.

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Speaker 1: Don't fix immigration. They're wanting to create a large worldwide

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Speaker 1: European union, the same thing that they have over there.

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Speaker 1: And you see how it doesn't work over there, but

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Speaker 1: the young people of this of this world, they just

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Speaker 1: don't get it yet. And I hope that we don't

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Speaker 1: have to go to that point where the pendulum swings

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Speaker 1: too far to the left before it comes back. Coming

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Speaker 1: on with me now is Scott you Linger. He's retired

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Speaker 1: CI operations officer and Naval Reserve officer officer and an

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Speaker 1: expert in Russian intel operations. And I was on with

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Speaker 1: Scott the other day are News Max and Scott. Our

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Speaker 1: interview kind of got blown up because I said this

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Speaker 1: exact thing that that the liberal left is using, uh,

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Speaker 1: the old big lie, which Hitler talked about in mind

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Speaker 1: comp and saw Lensky talked about in his book. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: you're right. I mean it's it's um, You're right, John,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be back. Thanks for inviting me

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Speaker 1: the and it's I guess what's what's kind of amazing,

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Speaker 1: sort of discomforting to me sort of is intentioning to

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Speaker 1: have people like you or I and also the gentleman

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Speaker 1: you just spoke to because I was just listening to them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people have fairly different backgrounds. The only thing

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Speaker 1: in common is that they will all serve in their country.

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Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is everyone seems to be seeing

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Speaker 1: pretty much the same thing. And I'm going to join

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Speaker 1: that group of people in saying a lot of the

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Speaker 1: same things. Um, we all tend to have, we all

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Speaker 1: tend to believe the same things, and that sort of

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Speaker 1: discompany that people have dedicated their lives to sharing their country,

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Speaker 1: you know, voice these concerns constantly, you know. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: just so the people know out there, um, and you're

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Speaker 1: you know, I was never in the CIA. I was

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Speaker 1: in the FBI and the seal teams and UH and

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Speaker 1: an air marshal. I know how the government works, and

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Speaker 1: you know, a whole different way an area in which

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Speaker 1: the government works, and it doesn't work right, doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: But but I find it very interesting, how to see,

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Speaker 1: I A is constantly used for for domestic affairs, domestic

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Speaker 1: political affairs. How the CIA is always is constantly brought

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Speaker 1: into this when their job has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: domestic affairs. It's it's outside. I mean, of course they're

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Speaker 1: collecting intel, but overall their job is to go outside

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Speaker 1: of the United States and work those cases, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was always the way, you know, they

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Speaker 1: cracked down in the CIA quite a lot in there

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Speaker 1: in the early seventies with the Church Commission to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the CIA was just you know, targeting folks overseas.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is, I guess as we get increasingly

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Speaker 1: politicized administrations, they try to use the CIA as a

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Speaker 1: way of maybe getting across a certain agenda or you

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Speaker 1: know it misusing the CIA. And unfortunately, you have um,

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Speaker 1: you know, appointed political leadership in the CIA that you

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Speaker 1: like you have in the FBI or any when they

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Speaker 1: have any administration. Plus you're gonna have a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who latch professional officers, who latch onto them for

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Speaker 1: careerist purposes, and they're gonna they're gonna power of the administration.

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Speaker 1: And then you get all of these abuses of the

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Speaker 1: intelligence system which can lead to all kinds of problems.

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Speaker 1: And how far down do you think, and I keep

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Speaker 1: talking about this with you, guess how far down in

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Speaker 1: the ranks do you have to go before you get

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Speaker 1: to the to where that you're not dealing with swamp water,

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Speaker 1: that mud in the swamp anymore, where you start dealing

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Speaker 1: with operations officers and people who just want to do

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Speaker 1: the job. How far down in the CIA, do you

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Speaker 1: have to go to get there? I think that you'd

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Speaker 1: probably go if you I think if you went down

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Speaker 1: to the most senior like quote working level, if you want,

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Speaker 1: like basically, let's say the head of the different mission areas,

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Speaker 1: like the head of basically the counter Terrorism Center or

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Speaker 1: the head of the Iranian section. Like. At that level,

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Speaker 1: you're going to deal with the people who are who

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Speaker 1: are dealing with the nuts and bolts of operations at all.

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Speaker 1: And and um, and I guess their equivalents on the

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Speaker 1: analytical side of the CIA, because that's the side I

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Speaker 1: you know, I know about, but I was not working in.

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Speaker 1: But anywhere above that, you start getting the people who

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Speaker 1: basically were maybe elevated to their position because of their

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Speaker 1: political affiliation, because they were too much of it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they maybe were kissed up. And of course there's always

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Speaker 1: some genuine performers in there, but you get people who

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Speaker 1: become creatures of that administration. And so, as you've been

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Speaker 1: saying on the show, it's paramount that um that President

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Speaker 1: elect Trump, that he that he basically he's allowed like

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Speaker 1: about six thousand the point of positions throughout the fuderal government.

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Speaker 1: He's got to replace all six thousand. If you appoint

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Speaker 1: six thousands, you need to appoint six thousand, not five thousand,

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Speaker 1: not four thousand. Because the people who remain embedded in

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Speaker 1: this case would be Obama administration people. They will work

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Speaker 1: to undermine his presidency. Yeah, I find it very, very

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Speaker 1: interesting because the thing that President Obama ran on, which

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Speaker 1: was hope and change, Um, he changed things for the

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Speaker 1: worst and destroyed hope. And there's no unity at all.

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Speaker 1: People are not willing to get behind the president that

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Speaker 1: has positive things to say and has a a an

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Speaker 1: aggressive move towards American exceptionalism to make us great again.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. You're right, it's amazing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like in the early you know, I'm I'm old enough

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Speaker 1: fifty two. So I was a teenager when Reagan was

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Speaker 1: elected and I voted for him, but I'm old enough

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Speaker 1: to remember that. For instance, when when Reagan was debating Carter,

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Speaker 1: he could just ask the simple question, are you better

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Speaker 1: off now than you were four years ago? And and

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Speaker 1: that was one main reason why he won, because people

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Speaker 1: could honestly look at themselves to say, no, I'm worse

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Speaker 1: under in this inflationary environment of Jimmy Carter, I'm voting

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Speaker 1: for Reagan. But now you have someone like Trump, who

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Speaker 1: thank god won the election, who's constantly going around and

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Speaker 1: pointing out the errors that have been made, etcetera, and

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Speaker 1: appealing to people's pocketbooks. But even so, like in a

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Speaker 1: way you would have expected him to win almost everyone's vote,

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Speaker 1: because certainly Helly Clinton wasn't offering that. So we've we've

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Speaker 1: our education system, everything has distorted people's views so much

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Speaker 1: that sometimes people can't even seem to detect what their

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Speaker 1: own best interests are anymore. If you had, if if

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Speaker 1: if Mr Trump is right here, right now, and you

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Speaker 1: could tell him, and he said, Scott, what, what are

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Speaker 1: the three things the biggest three things that you think

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Speaker 1: I could do to effect change in the CIA? Or

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Speaker 1: what needs to be changed, what needs to be upgraded?

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Speaker 1: What do we need to do to make it work

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Speaker 1: more efficiently? What would you tell them? I think they

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Speaker 1: might have to look at the way the CIA is

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Speaker 1: organized or reorganized. It was reorganized um shortly after I

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Speaker 1: left in. It was reorganized organized along more functional lines

1039
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Speaker 1: instead of geography. And it's always hard to cut up,

1040
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Speaker 1: to cut it up, you know, divide up and determine

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Speaker 1: your organizational framework. But I think that they may have

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Speaker 1: made a mistake by going into like basically running everything

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Speaker 1: like they do counter terrorism. We're gonna have a, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, a Russian cell where they integrate analysts with

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Speaker 1: operations officers. And that sounds good on paper, but often

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Speaker 1: doesn't translate very well in theory. Um you know that,

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Speaker 1: that's certainly one of the main things I'd say. And

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Speaker 1: let me say one thing. Let me say that something

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Speaker 1: that not to miss up your train of thought, but

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Speaker 1: the same thing happened in the FBI where they instead

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Speaker 1: of taking seasoned criminal investigators and putting them in charge,

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Speaker 1: they took people that are at the higher levels already

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Speaker 1: up there in the s a C. The special agent

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Speaker 1: charge levels, they put them in charge of terrorism when

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Speaker 1: they haven't done a case in forever, and they put

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Speaker 1: them at the top. And what do they do. They

1057
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Speaker 1: start changing this whole thing and listening to the wrong people,

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Speaker 1: and then before long they start taking new agents straight

1059
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Speaker 1: from the academy and putting them in terrorism investigations instead

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Speaker 1: of making them learn the craft of investigating on the

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Speaker 1: criminal side, and so that that is hampered our ability

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Speaker 1: to investigate because they just don't have the season investigators

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Speaker 1: in there. They're not taking their their word for what

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Speaker 1: needs to p There's and there's a lot a lot

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Speaker 1: of the same kinds of mistakes have been made in

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Speaker 1: the CIA, the you know, by by embedding analysts trinstance,

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Speaker 1: with operations officers. What what I found as in operations officers,

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Speaker 1: Suddenly everyone thinks that they're an operations officer because they're

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Speaker 1: they're you know, they're going to start telling you how

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Speaker 1: to you know, um, how to do your job. They

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Speaker 1: have no operational experience. I'm sure you're familiar with that.

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Speaker 1: These are these are real problems, I think. But and

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Speaker 1: I like the FBI and the CIA, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have a president who is actually concerned with,

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Speaker 1: you know, really truly defending the nation, I think it

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Speaker 1: may take a while, but but hopefully that will embolden

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Speaker 1: the you know, the real performers in in any given

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Speaker 1: agency to know that, you know, management is pulling for

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Speaker 1: us and we need to do our job. Because you know,

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Speaker 1: the morale in all of these agencies now is is

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Speaker 1: poor because the people, certainly the performers, since that the

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Speaker 1: leadership doesn't have their back. I mean, they've been abuses

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Speaker 1: like um in Special Operations Command, they had almost a

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Speaker 1: mutiny of for the army and military analysts who were

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Speaker 1: being told to doctor their ISIS reports because they weren't

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Speaker 1: saying that ISIS was on the run. They were reporting

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Speaker 1: what they thought was the truth, and it was being

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Speaker 1: kicked back from upper leadership. Now you need to change

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Speaker 1: this intel analysis. And that's that's crazy, and that that

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Speaker 1: will destroy a country's intelligence kit. That is exactly what

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Speaker 1: happens when we put these people that we're talking about

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Speaker 1: in a position of authority. It's really, it's really I

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Speaker 1: don't think most people realize the way the federal government

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Speaker 1: is set up in that and I say this all

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Speaker 1: the time. My buddy, he was a cop in New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: said that you could take two crack addicts that have

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Speaker 1: never been to a city before. You can take them

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Speaker 1: and put them on introduce one of the city on

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Speaker 1: on the north and one in the south, and within

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Speaker 1: two weeks they will find the same people and probably

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Speaker 1: meet at some point. And that's what happens in the

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Speaker 1: Bureau and the CIA, and definitely in the v A

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Speaker 1: system is crack addicts get at the top and they

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Speaker 1: introduce other people that think the same way as they

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Speaker 1: do incompetently, right. Yeah, and you see and you start

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Speaker 1: seeing things like look at the Secret Service. They've been

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Speaker 1: battered by scandals now for the past several years. And

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01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: as you know, start um placing in leadership positions in

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Speaker 1: these different organizations, political appointees, political hacks, then the quality

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Speaker 1: of that agency goes down and morale goes down amongst

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Speaker 1: the performing officers in that organization. So you know, now

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Speaker 1: you have the Secret Services, you know constantly um uh

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Speaker 1: making errors that you know, just everyone every Americans scratching

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Speaker 1: their head wondering what's going to happen next, and and

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Speaker 1: all of our agencies and bureaus are subject to the

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Speaker 1: same kind of thing. Now with Mr Trump and control,

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be changing for the better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this, do you think, honestly, as

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Speaker 1: you're an expert on Russia, do you think Russia is

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Speaker 1: a bigger threat to the United States and our own

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Speaker 1: politicians into our national kid. It's funny, that's um that's

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Speaker 1: a good that's a good question. That's an honest question question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what was Lincoln always said that our greatest

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Speaker 1: enemy was going to be ourselves. And so certainly I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm and chasing Russians my whole life, and and you

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Speaker 1: need to verty much keep an eye on them. However,

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: certainly things our own people have done in our own

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Speaker 1: government to the United States are at least as grievous

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Speaker 1: as anything Russia has done. That's and that's that's a

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Speaker 1: sad commentary. But like, for instance, someone like Putin, a

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Speaker 1: really smart operator, former operations officer, is gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: he's with the Russians are always working too, let's say,

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Speaker 1: create They want Americans and Europeans, Western Europeans to be

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Speaker 1: disillusioned in their you know, in their given institutions. And

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Speaker 1: I like to say, well, you know, the Russians want

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Speaker 1: us to do that. What we're doing a very good

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Speaker 1: job of that ourselves, our press is created is causing

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Speaker 1: us to become disillusioned with our press and all. And

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Speaker 1: people like Putin exploit these exploit this, you know, the

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Speaker 1: rise of right wing parties in um in Europe basically

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Speaker 1: a response to this immigration debacle they have that right

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Speaker 1: Putines is funding them and giving them support. And who's

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Speaker 1: to say, I mean, if I was a French, if

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Speaker 1: I was a Frenchman who felt that my country was

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Speaker 1: ignoring my own security needs. And I filly with Marine

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Speaker 1: Lapan or something, and I find out that the Russians

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01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: are helping to bank roll her. Maybe I don't care

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Speaker 1: because I'm a Frenchman with three children and I can't

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Speaker 1: get a gun gun permit, and I'm worried about my

1150
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: kids being killed in the streets. So I don't care

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Speaker 1: whether that money is coming from. I'm joining that party

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01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: and people like Putin exploit this. Scott, we got a

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Speaker 1: break right there. Thanks for coming on. God buys, you

1154
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Speaker 1: have a merry Christmas. But real quick ten seconds. Do

1155
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Speaker 1: you have anything that you want to plug at all

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Speaker 1: any people can find? Um? Yeah, thanks for that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I just started up a podcast called The Station Chief

1158
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: where I discussed some issues like this. The thing that

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Speaker 1: makes it a little different, though, John, is that my

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Speaker 1: host is actually more of a liberal, so it makes

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Speaker 1: for a little bit more. How do they find it?

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Speaker 1: How do they find it? They can find it on

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Speaker 1: iTunes and it's under the Station Chief. My last position overseas,

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Speaker 1: you got a buddy, God bless you this. John and

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Speaker 1: the Gilman filling in for Sean Hannity, we'll be rapp

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: This is jhonathancguil I'm filling in for Sean Hannity on

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: the Shawan Hannity Radio Show again. You can find me

1168
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Speaker 1: on Twitter. I'm getting some unbelievable responses from you all.

1169
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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter It's Jay Gilliam Underscore

1170
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: Seal and then on Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam. And

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Speaker 1: I keep kind of pumping this up, folks, because I've

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Speaker 1: discovered this Facebook live. I was one of the first

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Speaker 1: people that kind of put together a nightly show. I've

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Speaker 1: done almost a hundred and fifty nightly shows live. And uh,

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Speaker 1: while you guys are texting amongst each other and to me,

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Speaker 1: I can read those and then I also take calls.

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Speaker 1: Right now, it's on Skype trying to get it fixed

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Speaker 1: where he can do it with the phone. But the

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Speaker 1: reason I point that out is one of the biggest

1180
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Speaker 1: concerns is we talk about this stuff that we've been

1181
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Speaker 1: talking about today, is how people, the normal, everyday citizen

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Speaker 1: in the United States can have a voice. And I

1183
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: really think what you saw with the movement of Donald Trump,

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01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: not just when he was getting campaigning, but in his

1185
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: thank You tour, we have to keep that going. That

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Speaker 1: Trump is gonna have to really buckled down in the

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Speaker 1: White House once he gets there, he's gonna have his

1188
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: own issues. It's gonna be up to us to continue

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Speaker 1: to have this dialogue. So make sure you give it

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Speaker 1: the best shot. Whether it be on my show The

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01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: Experts on Facebook Live every night nine pm Eastern Standard time,

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01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: it'll be on tonight, or whether it's I don't know,

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01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: it's starting your own Facebook Live show. We need to

1194
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: bypass the mainstream media lest one of them ever decides

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Speaker 1: to give me a show. Uh, then we'll transfer over

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01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: there and I'll give you guys a voice there. But

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Speaker 1: right now we need to concentrate on what we can do.

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Speaker 1: So we have to keep the dialogue in the unity

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Speaker 1: going strong. So now coming up with me now, actually

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Speaker 1: two good friends of mine, Uh Dave Robinson's the former marine.

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Speaker 1: He's my hill billy reporter from West Virginia. And Uh

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Speaker 1: Laura Monyos. She is a Navy veteran. She was an

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Speaker 1: air traffic controller and a public's affair specialist in the Navy.

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Speaker 1: God bless you both, and thanks for being with me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you two beautiful people. All of us veterans were

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Speaker 1: all beautiful people. That's just the way it works. If

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Speaker 1: you serve, you get better looking. So Dave, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start with you, my friend. Um, we were talking

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Speaker 1: yesterday on the show about West Virginia is going to

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Speaker 1: be opening up to allow uh, some refugees to come

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Speaker 1: in there, some Middle Eastern refugees. So tell us a

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Speaker 1: little bit about that and the reality of how bad

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Speaker 1: a shape West Virginia is in and how many people

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Speaker 1: aren't getting the benefits that are American citizens that these

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Speaker 1: people are going to be getting. Well. Um, a group

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Speaker 1: called the Episcopal Migration Ministries. They're they're a group that's

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Speaker 1: they kind of work under the cover of being a

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Speaker 1: religious group, but they're not. They're not any kind of um,

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Speaker 1: nonprofit or no kind of charity. They're a government contractor.

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Speaker 1: Them in about nine other or eight other groups just

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Speaker 1: like them, in about a hundred and thirty subcontractors under them,

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Speaker 1: or that their government contractors. They get government attracts to

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Speaker 1: place these refugees in places. Now that's interesting because they

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Speaker 1: use the word episcopal, making it sound like it's a

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Speaker 1: religious thing. Yeah, well about out of those out of

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Speaker 1: those nine groups, there's about six of them that do that,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they kind of work under that cloak.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, they're there. They're government contractors, that's

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Speaker 1: all they are. They work on government funds. They just

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01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight have gotten about a hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty million from the federal government doing this. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that is unbelievable. Now, let's compare and contrast that with

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Speaker 1: the amount of support that citizens of West Virginia getting,

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Speaker 1: especially after these floods. You say that people are still

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Speaker 1: living in tents there. We still have people here in

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Speaker 1: my hometown here in Greenboro County who just have to

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Speaker 1: floated over the past summer, who are still living in tents.

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Speaker 1: And even in Charleston, West Virginia, you have people up

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Speaker 1: there homeless. Up there, there's a place they call tent

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Speaker 1: city up there, and usually by wintertime every year there, um,

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Speaker 1: they go in there and pretty well make them tear

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Speaker 1: this place down, run all these homeless out of there, supposedly,

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Speaker 1: you know, for their own goods, so they don't freeze

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Speaker 1: to death. But it's basically so they don't freeze the

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Speaker 1: death out in plain sight. So they're moving on. They're

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Speaker 1: moving all these people out of this tent city with

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Speaker 1: no plan of where to place all these homeless people.

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Speaker 1: But this group, with all this compassion for all these

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Speaker 1: people overseas, comes in, you know, bringing bringing in these refugees,

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01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: which would all sound good. You know, you would think

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Speaker 1: the only reason they don't help these homeless people is

1252
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: because they don't get federal grants to help these homeless people.

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Speaker 1: It's a business. They go in here, they lobby politicians

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Speaker 1: for the change, the the change migration laws, immigration laws,

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Speaker 1: for to allow more to come in. And the more

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01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: they get, the more they get paid. And all these

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: groups work in the same way. This is unbelievable because

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Speaker 1: I said the same not the same thing, But I

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Speaker 1: noticed it with veterans, and you know, there's only one

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Speaker 1: percent of the population that serves in the military. Why

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Speaker 1: we can't afford to give those people health care and

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01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: give them the benefits that they deserve from serving is

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Speaker 1: beyond me um. But it would almost be better if you,

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Speaker 1: if you're a veteran, to renounce your citizenship, go to

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Speaker 1: another country and then come back in as a refugee.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get everything that you couldn't get after serving,

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Speaker 1: even sometimes in cases as a as a combat veteran. Hundred.

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Speaker 1: This one group a hundred and thirty million, and they're

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Speaker 1: not even the top earning group that puts this out there.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you imagine if they had to put

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Speaker 1: that in here. I'm not I have nothing against immigrants,

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Speaker 1: but if you're gonna come here, pay your way and

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: come here, save your pennies, do what you gotta do,

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Speaker 1: come here llegally, don't don't look on us to you know,

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Speaker 1: pack your bags, fund you bring you over here. How

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Speaker 1: about this part of what these groups do. If they

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Speaker 1: go over here and they get them acclimated everything, they

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Speaker 1: put them in schools, they try to introduce into the community,

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Speaker 1: and they're doing this whole gimmick now for the um

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Speaker 1: acquainting everybody with Muslim cultures and everything's in these areas.

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01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: That worked out real good for Germany. But here's the one.

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Speaker 1: Here's one thing, and I have to say this before

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Speaker 1: we go to Laura and we talked about her. Thing

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Speaker 1: is I am sick and tired of these church missionary

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Speaker 1: groups sending people civilians into bad areas where they cannot

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Speaker 1: take care of themselves. I mean, I've had this discussion

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Speaker 1: with people at my mom's church who belonged to a

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Speaker 1: missionary group. Mainly what's happening is these nonprofit missionary groups

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Speaker 1: have a ton of people on the board, They make

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Speaker 1: a ton of money. They send people to place like Honduras,

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Speaker 1: give them big pink or yellow shirts to wear around

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Speaker 1: so their targets. They don't teach them security nothing. What

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Speaker 1: they should be doing is bringing those people, bringing the

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Speaker 1: Hondurans or whoever they're training to come here, teach them

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Speaker 1: how to farm, teach them how to dig holes, teach

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Speaker 1: them how to do medicine, and tend them back so

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Speaker 1: they can police and their own land. But what's happening

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: is the reverse with these refugees, where we should be

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Speaker 1: keeping them there, instead we're bringing them here. Yes that

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Speaker 1: you go to Honduras and the eyes every American is rich,

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Speaker 1: So I mean you snatch up any of them, you're

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, you have a heck of a bargainage chip there.

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01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's that we're all wealthy far as they're concerned.

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01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: And when you dress everybody up like you say, in

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01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: these big knee yon green shirts, in a group of

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: people who have absolutely no sort of threat assessment knowledge whatsoever,

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: and there they're sitting ducks and the people who are

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01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: reaping in the money from this are not the same

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01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: ones getting her has a dirty All right, let's switch

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Speaker 1: over from incompetence to stupidity and not saying that Laura

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: is stupid, but let's play a clip from Lena Dunham,

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: who is I think the poster child now for Webster

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,879
Speaker 1: Dictionary of Stupid. Let's go ahead and play this. I'm

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Speaker 1: a abortion rights activist. It's a huge part of who

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01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: I am. But one day, when I was visiting a

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: planned parenthood in Texas a few years ago, a young

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01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: girl walked up to me and asked me if I'd

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Speaker 1: like to be a part of her project, in which

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Speaker 1: women share their stories of abortions. I sort of jumped.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had an abortion, I told her. I wanted

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Speaker 1: to make it really clear to her that as much

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Speaker 1: as I was going out and fighting for other women's options,

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01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 1: I myself had never had an abortion. And I realized

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01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: then that even I was carrying within myself stigma around

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Speaker 1: this issue, even I the woman who cares as much

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Speaker 1: as anybody about a woman's right to choose. I felt

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Speaker 1: it was important that people know that I was unblemished

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Speaker 1: in this department. So many people I love, my mother,

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Speaker 1: my best friends have had to have abortions for all

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Speaker 1: kinds of reasons. I feel so proud of them for

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Speaker 1: their bravery, for their self knowledge. And it was a

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Speaker 1: really important moment for me then to realize that I

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01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: had internalized some of what society was throwing at us,

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: and I had to put it in the garbage. Now

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Speaker 1: I can say that I still haven't had an abortion,

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01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: but I wish I had all right, hold on, hold

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: on before you talk, Laura, because America has to get

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Speaker 1: their breath. There's like seventeen million people that listen to

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01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: this show regularly, and I can guarantee you that they're

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01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: all right now, either running to barf in a bag

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01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 1: somewhere or they're on the floor passed out because of

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: what she just said. I mean, it's so stupid that

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01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: you can't defend it. Really, go ahead, Laura, No, I'm

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01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: just shocked. First of all, I didn't hear the one

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Speaker 1: part earlier when I listened that she said the bravery

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Speaker 1: of these women who have had abortions. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of brave people, but I don't know when you know,

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01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: a mother killing her fetus became brave, and you're a

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Speaker 1: mother as well, you have a child. I am, and

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01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: I think I've become more passionate about this issue since

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01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: becoming a mother. But my biggest concern is not necessarily

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01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 1: with her stupidity, which she is terribly stupid and ignorant.

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01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: But when did abortion become a rite of passage for

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: a woman or empower women or it seems like it's

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01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: become glamorized almost that abortion is just something that a

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01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 1: woman should do and it makes you powerful and smart

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01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: and educated it and if you aren't supportive of that,

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: then you are regressive and it's not accepted. I'm just

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm very confused. Well, there's a lot of i'd say

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01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: less than politically correct things that are running through my

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01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 1: brain right now that I'd love to say. Um, but look,

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Speaker 1: if Lena Dunham really wanted to do something, uh, to

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01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: do a real report, um, she should have followed that

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01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: girl in and literally watched as she got the abortion

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Speaker 1: from the doctor's view, and let's see if she had

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Speaker 1: an opinion uh that way. And one thing I want

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Speaker 1: to say before I let you talk again is I

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Speaker 1: have a friend who she didn't have an abortion, but

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Speaker 1: she was pro choice and another friend of hers was

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Speaker 1: having got pregnant and was wondering what to do with it.

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Speaker 1: She sat down, she talked to her, She counseled her,

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Speaker 1: said she'd go with her. She went with her. The

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Speaker 1: girl got an abortion, and it caused this girl to

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Speaker 1: have a nervous breakdown, the one they had, the abortion.

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Speaker 1: Those two people never they don't talk at all anymore.

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01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: And the guilt the girl that she's now approached a

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Speaker 1: pro life that talked the girl and to have an abortion,

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: she is, it's she's beside herself with this. It's something

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Speaker 1: she has to live with. Well it's I mean, it's

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01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: a terrible procedure to begin with, and it's obviously is

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01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: going to affect you. I don't see how it can

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: affect you in a positive way. I remember, um, not

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01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: too long ago, there was the hashtag shout your abortion movement,

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01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: and you know, all these Hollywood celebrities came out because

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01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 1: you know, he probably your abortion, that this is a

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: wonderful thing. Women's right to choose. This is they should

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Speaker 1: apply for a job at Planning Tarenthood. Um, which is

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: actually I hate to say this, but I'm all I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of torn on plan tarenthood as a conservative woman,

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01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: because I didn't know exactly what you go ahead, good, Okay.

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01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: During college, my father lost his job and we lost

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01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: our health insurance and I still had to get yearly

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: exams and I would go to plan parenthood. Because I

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01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: was uneducated on my other options, I didn't realize there

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01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: were other local health clinics around that could help me

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: and provide these services. And I'm a big part of

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 1: what we need to do is educate people and say,

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, there are other options in other places to

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01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: go other than abortion clinics that can provide these services.

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01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: I just wish our government wouldn't fund these things, and

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: I really do hope to President Trump can. One thing

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01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: that kills me about this is, you know, I'm a

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01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 1: Christian and I'm I believe in the power of the

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01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: the church, and I think that the churches should be

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01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: more involved with this. I think that um there should

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01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: be Listen, my mom and my stepdad are retired. They

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01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: work harder now than I think they ever have in

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01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: their life doing stuff for people, and uh, they have

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Speaker 1: real significance in the community. I'd love to see for

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Speaker 1: churches to offer not I know people always say my

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01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: church does this. Okay, one church here, one church there,

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: but offer a real alternative. Try to offer these women

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: the opportunity to keep the child, to uh to help

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01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: them learn how to build a house, and not build

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01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: a house, but how to take care of their home

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Speaker 1: and cook and take care of a child and and

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Speaker 1: be a part of their lives. And then the other

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01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: thing is why don't we set up tax breaks for

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01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: hospitals for women who don't have insurance but are pregnant. Well,

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Speaker 1: I wandered the same thing. You know, this topic is

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01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: close to my heart because my mother and father were

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01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,520
Speaker 1: told that they couldn't have children, and so they adopted

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: my brother and his mother she was a drug addict

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01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: and he has developmental issues that he's had since he

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01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: was because of this. But I am thankful that she,

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01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: his his birth mother, chose life because I can't imagine

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01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: my life without my brother. And I wish we could

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: say instead of going into spandparenthood and promoting abortions, you know,

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: these young girls, wasn't They're scared, they don't know what

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01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: to do. They think abortion is the only thing I had,

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01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: This is my only options. But can only supports them

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01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: and say, you know, what. We're gonna help you through this.

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01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna offer you counseling, We're gonna get you through

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: a healthy pregnicy and you know what, if you can't

1435
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 1: take care of that baby the end of the nine months,

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01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 1: then we're going to help you put that baby up

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01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: for adoption in point a loving home. So let me

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01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: ask you, guys this, if you had to say something,

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01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: we got about a minute and a half year. If

1440
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: you had to say something to the youth of America

1441
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: and uh maybe even the ones who listened to Lena Dunham,

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01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: I'll say this with Laura. Laura, what would you say

1443
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: to those those women? Be careful who you admire and

1444
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: who you look up to. You know, stop looking at

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01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 1: the Kardashians, stop looking at TV stars, stopped looking at

1446
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: Lena Dame, stopped looking at Beyonce. Look at people who

1447
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 1: have morals and success and how they got there. I mean,

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01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: it's it's quite simple, Listen. That's the first lesson I

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01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: learned in the military. Be careful who you pick as

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01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: your hero. Dave, Dave, if you had if you had

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01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 1: John Justice who's getting ready to take or Jim Justice,

1452
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: who's getting ready to take over as governor of West Virginia,

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01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 1: if you had an opportunity to talk to him right now,

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01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: what would you tell him about what's going on with

1455
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: this refugee issue. Just listen to the people around you

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01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: and take notice of what's going on in the world.

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01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the people who are inviting all these people

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01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: in your all singing the same things that the folks

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01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: were in Germany and France and everywhere else were, and

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01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: we're going to pay that exact same price. I mean,

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01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait until somebody drives a truckload

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01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: of you know, drives a truck into a parade of

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01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: people on the streets, or sets out a pressure cooker

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01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: bomb out somewhere around you. I don't want to wait

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01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,919
Speaker 1: until that. We can avoid that now, and then avoiding

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01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: that does not make you a racist or a bad person. Listen,

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01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: Dave Robinson, my good buddy, Laura Munos my good friend.

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: Both are my my reporters that report in on my

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: show The Experts on Facebook Live every night at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Jim Justice, get ahold of Dave, let him be one

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Speaker 1: of your visors. Thank you, guys, God bless you. Vetting

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Speaker 1: of Obama continued every day right here on the Sean

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Speaker 1: Hannity Show. This is Jonathan Gilham filling in for Shawn

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01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: Hannity on the Shawan Hannity Radio Show. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come back just a minute and start taking your calls.

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01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: I just gotta tell you, I'm proud to be an American,

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01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: and I'm proud that you all are communicating with me

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01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: on Twitter and on Facebook. Keep it up. J Gilliam

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Speaker 1: underscore Seal on Twitter and Jonathan T. Gillham on fa

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01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I say Gilliam's really pronounce Gillham. But I

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Speaker 1: just can't thank you all enough for all the feedback.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you let Sean Hannity know as well that

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed this. We'll be right back, ladies and gentle,

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01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 1: and we'd like to take a second to hear the

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01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:07,799
Speaker 1: immortal Bob Grant's thoughts about the world today. Hey, ladist

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01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: and Gentelma is sick and it's getting sicker. Now back

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Speaker 1: to the Sea show. This is Jonathan Gilham filling in

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01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: for Shawn Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show. And

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Speaker 1: I love it when Linda hands me something to read

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Speaker 1: right as I gotta start talking. I'm from Arkansas. We

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01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: don't do those things. At the same time, Linda doesn't

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01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: work out that well, so listen, you can find me anytime.

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Speaker 1: I can give Linda a little you know, Joscelyn d

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: a little nudge because she's a Brooklyn. No, not a Brooklyn,

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01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: She's a Bronx girl. I'm actually originally from Philly, which

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01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: seems to confuse everybody who's that should explain a lot

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Speaker 1: of my anger. That's even better. You're the traffic of

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Speaker 1: anger exactly. And then I married a Polish Puerto Rican,

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01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: so it's fantastic. Polish Puerto Rican. You never see them

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Speaker 1: in jail. That's because they get away. Is it all right? Listen,

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01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna take some calls here and uh, you know, listen,

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01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad when we have people that call in

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 1: that disagree or question what I'm saying. And uh, let's

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01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: go to Megan and fort Worth. Do you want to

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01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: bring her up. We'll go to Megan and fort Worth. Megan,

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01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 1: go ahead, let let me hear what you have to

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01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: say here. Hi, can you hear me? Okay? I sure can, Megan,

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01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: And listen, I want you to I want you to

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01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: know before you start talking. I'm not against you. You're

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Speaker 1: an American citizen. We're gonna have disagreements, We're gonna have uh,

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have different ideals about way things UM are

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01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: or should be in this country. So don't think that

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01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm your enemy here. If you disagree with me, disagree

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01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 1: with me. But let's hear what you I don't feel that.

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01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way at all. In fact, I've

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01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: actually been listening to UM conservative radio for the last

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Speaker 1: few days, UM, just kind of out of curiosity and

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01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: kind of just out of a desire to sort of

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01:25:55,200 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: understand their side of of of of things. UM. You know,

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01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't feel any any animosity

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01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: towards you at all. I love that. But listen, here's

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01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: the thing you got to know about about conservatism. I

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01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: don't even think the majority of people that say their

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01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: conservatives realize it's up. Basically, what it is is slow

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01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,840
Speaker 1: to change. It's slow to change. Let's not change things fast,

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01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: Let's allow the changes to happen in time. That's really

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01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: basically the biggest thing about being a conservative, and no

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01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: need for revolution go ahead. So what is the abortion debate?

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01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: Because when I tuned in. I had just I had

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01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 1: just gotten I was having lunch with my girlfriend and

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01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: I just turned like, I said, this is what my

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01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: station has just sent on for the last few days.

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Speaker 1: And um, there was a girl discussing um abortion and

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01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 1: are we glamorizing it? Um? What? What is the debate?

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Speaker 1: Because the Supreme Court decided forty years ago. Over forty

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Speaker 1: years that are something that that comes up in every

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01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 1: political cycle. Well, there's a couple of reasons. One, let's

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01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: let's look at the obvious reason. Okay, you can't trust

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01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: any politicians. Some not saying all politicians, but there's a

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01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 1: lot of them out there that care one way or

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01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: the other. They don't care less. They use it as

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01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,839
Speaker 1: a way to get re elected. That's the first and foremost.

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01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: That's the thing. As both there's there's conservatives and liberals

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01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 1: that are established from people that they use this as

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01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: a platform to get re elected. You gotta remember that

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01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: you can't trust everybody that says what you want to hear,

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01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: you know. That's the first thing. The second thing is

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01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: there's people who feel strongly that there should be a choice, right. Well,

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01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,599
Speaker 1: there's also people who feel very strongly that life should

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01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: be protected. And I know what you're saying about the

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01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I want you to think about this though.

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: In the dread Scott versus Stanford case in eighteen sixty

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01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: five decided in eighteen fifty seven, excuse me, eighteen fifty six,

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: decided in eighteen fifty seven, the Supreme Court ruled that

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01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: American Americans of African descent, whether free or slave, were

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01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: not American citizens and could not sue in federal court.

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01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: The court also ruled that Congress lacked the power to

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01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 1: ban slavery in the United States. So you got to

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01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: realize that the Supreme Court is also filled with politicians.

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01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: That's how they got to that position. So I think

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01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 1: that's the problem is that we as a as a citizenry,

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01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: don't take a step back and say, all right, you

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01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 1: feel strongly about this, I feel strongly about it this way,

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01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: How how do we make sense of this? And is

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01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: it possible that one side is not going to get

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01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: what they want? If we can't do that ourselves and

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01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: we leave it up to the courts, nobody's ever going

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Speaker 1: to be happy. So I was what I'm understanding that

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Speaker 1: just because the Supreme Court decided in one case that

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Speaker 1: this should be illegal. Um, is what I'm understanding that

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Speaker 1: just because that decision is upheld doesn't mean that that

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Speaker 1: decision is where we ultimately need to be. Yeah, you can. First,

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01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 1: you just can't trust everything that Supreme Court does because

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01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: it may be politically motivated. We don't need to let

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01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: these things get to the Supreme Court, is what I'm

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01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 1: trying to say. Politicians, you can't necessarily trust where they're

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01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: gonna go with this. The Supreme Court, as I just showed,

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Speaker 1: you may have a different understanding of the way things

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01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: should go than UH than than really the Constitution even says.

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Speaker 1: And here's one thing I want you to think about

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Speaker 1: when it comes to life. The Constitution gives us the

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01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: right to live. We need to forget about that word

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01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: life and death. The Constitution gives you the freedom to live,

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01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: to be the best that you can be, to fail,

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Speaker 1: and to succeed. That's what makes our constitution so great,

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01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: and that's what eventually did away with UH slavery was

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01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: the Constitution was still their foundation of our country in

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01:29:56,120 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: churning and pushing the people forward. That's the same anything

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01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to right to life, right to life

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Speaker 1: and the right to live is something that should be protected,

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01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: and it's I guess the people that believe in life

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01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: are kind of confounded as to why individuals want to

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Speaker 1: stop alife so desperately and certain cumstances where there's no tragedy,

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01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 1: there's no medical issue, it's just a form of birth control.

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Speaker 1: So is that is the sense um for people like yourself?

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01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: Ultimately that abortion should be absolutely illegal except in the

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Speaker 1: cases of rape, ancest or where the mother's life is

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01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 1: to me, to me, that's where the real argument is.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. I think that's where the real

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Speaker 1: argument should be. And uh not not whether or not

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01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 1: they should just be legal or illegal. I think they

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01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: should be illegal, um, except in the cases where there's

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Speaker 1: an emergency circumstance. I think that the protecting of life

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01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: and the ability to live. I think that's something that

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01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 1: the all Americans should should stand up for. Does that

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01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: make sense? Well, yeah, and I agree with that, um.

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Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm really not here to offer an

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Speaker 1: opposition to that. I'm really just here as a person

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01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: that is truly trying to understand. I mean, I'm a

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Speaker 1: person that has seen that the country has elected somebody

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Speaker 1: that that I that I that I don't agree with it.

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01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't you know den and thinks ever ever could

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Speaker 1: be elected. And so let me let me give you.

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01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: I gotta go to a break. But let me give

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01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: you two. I'm not saying I know tremendous more than you.

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01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: Let me tell you one thing that you're doing right, Megan.

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01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 1: You're asking questions and you're saying why, and you wanted

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01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: to find out. You're a seeker. Seekers are the people

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01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: who make the most of their life, and God holds

1620
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: high because you're seeking the answers to life. That's amazing.

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01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: But let me tell you about Donald Trump, and having

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01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: just left CNN in November, you need to be very

1623
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: careful of the images that you see of people that

1624
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: are projected on mainstream media. They can manipulate, they can

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01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 1: twist and turn things. And it's best that we all

1626
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: do our studying and look at who the real person

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01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: is as much as we can. But Megan, I want

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Speaker 1: to thank you and God bless you, and I hope

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Speaker 1: you have a merry Christmas. Sorry you gotta cut you off,

1630
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: but I gotta go to a break, and we're gonna

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01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,640
Speaker 1: come back. You're gonna have We're gonna I may have

1632
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 1: time for another call. I may just tell a Christmas story.

1633
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter j Gilliam Underscore, Seal and on

1634
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Facebook at Jonathan T. Gilliam and Folks. That's how you

1635
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: talk amongst each other, that's how you have dialogue. We'll

1636
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: be right back the biggest newsmakers, the best coverage, and

1637
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: the issues you'll care about every single day. This is

1638
01:32:45,560 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. This is Jonathan Yell. I'm filling

1639
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Radio Show

1640
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 1: on radio stations all around the world and on Sirius

1641
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: X and Patriot Channel where I'm a guest host. You

1642
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 1: can find me next week on hosting the David Webb

1643
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Show on Sirius X and Patriot Channel and also every

1644
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: night nine pm Eastern Standard Time. Uh. That's on the weeknights.

1645
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: I take the weekends off. I had my show on

1646
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 1: Facebook Live called The Experts and Um I'd love for

1647
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 1: you to join me. Megan that just called in from Texas.

1648
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,879
Speaker 1: She should be joining. Anybody that has dialogue or questions

1649
01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: should all be joining in the dialogue. Also, you can

1650
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jay Gilliam Underscore seal and

1651
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: I'd love I'm getting some incredible messages here today and

1652
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 1: thank all of you for your insight, whether you agree

1653
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: with me or not. I'd love to hear what you're

1654
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: your comments are. But here's what I want to do.

1655
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not gonna get to any more calls,

1656
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: but I do want to tell you all a quick story.

1657
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: I told this last night of my show because I

1658
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: want to share with everybody because they were close to Christmas.

1659
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: The story about the small, silent voice or whisper of

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01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: God that's in our heads all the time that we

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01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 1: tend to ignore because of our busy lives, because of

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01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: our jobs, or a drama that's going on in our

1663
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 1: families because we've heard Linda done him say something that's

1664
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: absolutely stupid. But here's what I want you to all

1665
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 1: to hear, because I know we all have these stories.

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01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't know who was talking to you in

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01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 1: your mind. I was working at a gym in Pasadena, California. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this is back in I don't know, like I'd had

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Speaker 1: a motorcycle crash when I was living with my sister

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Speaker 1: and she had to move and I had nowhere to

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Speaker 1: live basically, so I moved in the gym where I

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01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,719
Speaker 1: was working, and I lived upstairs in the gym, twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour gym. I don't even know if they knew.

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01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: I'll just go through a blanket down up there on

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01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: some mats and go to sleep every night and get

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01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: up and do my shift. And I was in uh

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Speaker 1: the office one day and and a guy comes in

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Speaker 1: and says, hey, I'm a marine from Camp Pendleton. I

1679
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 1: um had a big breakup with my girlfriend and I

1680
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: lost all my money this weekend and I need to

1681
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: get back down to Camp Penson. Could somebody give me

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01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. Well, I just gone back to work and

1683
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: all I had in my pocket was twenty dollars. A kid,

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Speaker 1: you not, that was all I had was a twenty

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01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: dollar bill. And I watched everybody in that office, who

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01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: I knew they had money, they you know, said no, sorry,

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01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: we don't have any money. We can't help you out.

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01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: He went from person to person and they were kind

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01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: of wanting to get him out of the gym. And

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01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 1: this voice kept telling me, giving your twenty dollars. I

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01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: kept saying to myself, No, I'm not gonna give him

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01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: that twenty dollars. It's all I got left, and I'm

1693
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 1: not gonna get paid for another week. I'm tired eating

1694
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 1: beanie we kneas in chili every day at at the

1695
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 1: bar next door. So I followed the guy outside. I

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01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 1: knew who was talking to me, and I walked up

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01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: to the guy and said, hey, listen, here's twenty bucks

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01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 1: and uh, God bless you and thank you for your service.

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01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: He said, well, give me your dress. I'll send it back.

1700
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 1: And said, no, no, no, that's God's money. God told

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01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: me to give you that money. Have a have a

1702
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 1: good trip. I hope everything works out with your fiance,

1703
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 1: your girlfriend. I never saw the guy again. About five

1704
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: minutes later, I'm sitting in the gym sweating because I

1705
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 1: don't know where I'm gonna get money to eat, and

1706
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 1: I don't wanna have to ask people for money. And

1707
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 1: but I I followed what God had told me. I

1708
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 1: followed that that's that whisper in your mind of what

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01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: to do. And a few minutes later, this guy walks by.

1710
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: He's got this T shirt it's gonna cross on it's

1711
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 1: about a music group. And I said, hey, I like

1712
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: your your T shirt there, brother, and uh, we started talking.

1713
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: I walked outside talking to him, and I mentioned to him,

1714
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: you know how important it is to listen to that voice,

1715
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 1: because this is a new lesson that had been pumped

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01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 1: back into my brain. And um, I told him I

1717
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: gave this guy twenty dollars. I didn't tell him that

1718
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have any more money. I just told him

1719
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: about giving this guy twenty dollars. And we talked a

1720
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 1: little bit more and I said, nice to meet you.

1721
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: I hope to talk to again. He he goes to

1722
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: walk off. He turns around, he says, you know what.

1723
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,839
Speaker 1: He reaches his back pocket, he pulls out forty dollars

1724
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: and he hands me forty dollars and I said, what's

1725
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: that for. I said, God told me to give that

1726
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: to you, and I don't question God. I was shocked.

1727
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 1: I was shocked because I don't expect that to happen

1728
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: to people all the time. But in an instant, God

1729
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 1: had taught me a lesson, and that lesson carried forward

1730
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: my entire career, my entire life, all to steal training.

1731
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: When things were terrible and men were having to look

1732
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: at their souls and quit. Right there, I knew that

1733
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: God had told me to be there and then if

1734
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 1: I persisted that I would be what he wanted me

1735
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: to be. Now, I'm no way shape or form the

1736
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: man and that he wants me to be. I have

1737
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 1: my faults and I still have a long ways to go.

1738
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: But that lesson that I learned in an instant because

1739
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: I listened to that small voice, is a lesson that

1740
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: can pay off bigger than any college degree, bigger than

1741
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: any going to performance of Hamilton and thinking that you

1742
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: know everything. Trust me, folks, trust me. If you listen

1743
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: to God this Christmas, if somebody says they need something,

1744
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: help him out. If you have faith, He'll restore what

1745
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: you have and in some and I just want to

1746
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: say with that, God blessed to all the veterans out

1747
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: there that are serving and that have served. I don't

1748
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: care whether you've been in combat or you use the

1749
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 1: pencils your entire career. God bless you. God bless all

1750
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 1: the police officers who put their life and deploy every

1751
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:01,800
Speaker 1: day to protect us. Thank you to the firefighters and

1752
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: the paramedics and the nurses and the doctors, and to

1753
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: all the people that decided to make a difference this

1754
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: election and go out and vote. God bless everybody. I

1755
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,719
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough, and I hope that you remember

1756
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 1: to tune into my show The Experts on Facebook Live.

1757
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: I want to see you all participate in the dialogue.

1758
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 1: If you can't do it on my show, do it somewhere.

1759
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 1: And if you see somebody in need, let's make a

1760
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: difference this year. Let's make a difference this year. The

1761
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: same people that go and go to these Trump rallies

1762
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: and go to his thank you to her, I would

1763
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,799
Speaker 1: expect all of you to step up to the plate,

1764
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: protect this country and help out those that don't have anything.

1765
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,479
Speaker 1: That's the way we're gonna win the hearts and minds

1766
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 1: of the liberal left. That's the way we're going to

1767
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 1: defeat the new communism, and that's the way we're going

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Speaker 1: to make America great again.