1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Total Group. Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL network analyst 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Shaddrick bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 3: Right now from the Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: The NFL Scouting Combine. 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Jaguars dot Com coverage continues with Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: brought to you by Field's Auto Group, Jacksonville se Fields First, 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: Jacksonville's premiere luxury Auto Group. Go to Fieldsauto dot Com. 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: JP Shadrick, John Oser, This is Bucky Brooks week. 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: What's happening? How are you man? I'm so excited. I'm 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: so excited for uh, who's treating for dinner? You treat 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: this treating as the wrong way? Big guy over. 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: There, somebody, somebody, I gotta I gotta text that somebody's 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: treating all the Jacks people that are here for dinner. 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 5: NFL Media, it's Bucky Brooks. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no no no. We didn't come 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 4: from my account, but I heard that. I'm sure the 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: people behind the camera also heard it too. I like 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: excited and rare. I'm excited. I'm excited. I may even 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: get off my nose one we we may what are 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: a port chopard a job? Since this is all somebody 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: else's times when the time they got back, Yeah I 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 4: got a text. 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: It's okay, Well, good for you. You apparently didn't get 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: the text. 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 5: Sometimes text or spam or fishing. 29 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that's what the combine is all about. 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 5: You might check the email on that text. 31 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: Oh okay. 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: The combine is about good food, good conversations, some fun times, 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: and a. 34 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Little bit of work. Oh yeah, football too. Yeah, on 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: top of little bit of a little bit of that. 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: We've got plenty to get to. 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: Plenty new around the Jacksonville Jaguars, of course, But it 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: was kind of a victory lap of sorts for the 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: new GM and the head coach yesterday, Buckie, and their 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: first chance to get out in front of the national folks, 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: at least in their new respective roles here. So, yes, 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: they're all young. That's been a prevailing word and storyline. 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: But you know, what was your impressions of what happened yesterday? 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: Well, I thought we talked about this last week on 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: the podcast, we talked about alignment in the room, and 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 4: I feel like John you kind of had a sense 47 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: that maybe Glasstone might be the guy giving the relationship 48 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: with Liam. I know, we talked about a lineman and 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: being able to see the game the same but also 50 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: being in the same building, aspiring to create a culture 51 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: that's been. 52 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Very, very successful elsewhere. 53 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: Not saying that you steal what the La Rams have done, 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: but in terms of understanding how important it is to 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 4: have a shared belief system from front office to coaching 56 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: staff to players, how that's essential to success. 57 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: I love it. I love the things that I've heard 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 2: from both parties. 59 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 4: Well I can't even say both parties because I think 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: we need to include Tony Vaseli in the conversation, but 61 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: I love the alignment that we have from all that, 62 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: I think the synergy is going to serve the Jaguars, well. 63 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 5: Your people who listen to the show. No, Bucky likes 64 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 5: to throw us a jargon every now and then, like 65 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 5: a football phrase. Well, what Liam Cohen said yesterday about 66 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 5: this in sort of calling the Rams method the north Star, 67 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 5: meaning it's not gonna be exactly like that, but that's 68 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 5: certainly part of look a directional point and I think 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 5: they share a value in a vision because they both. Certainly, 70 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 5: Gladstone's a structure in his football soul was built with 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: the Rams. It's all he's known. But then Liam certainly 72 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: has drawn from Sean McVay and his intro pressor talked about, 73 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: you know, the culture and what he felt from the 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 5: RAMS building. Not surprising in that sense that they would 75 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: draw their general manager from that. I'm excited about Gladstone 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: early am. 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: We always hear about the coaching trees, but there's personnel 78 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: and GM trees too, right, But yeah, there are. 79 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: I mean, like, typically what teams do teams that need 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: a general manager to try and take someone from a 81 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: successful organizer. 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: I think in this one this is really different. 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: Because it wasn't just plucking a talent evaluator. It was 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 4: basically changing the entire way the Jaguars do business. When 85 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: sha Khan made the decision to move on from Doug 86 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: Peterson did eventually move on from Trim Balki, he did 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: it with a plan to, hey, let's change how everything 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 4: is done. Let's see if we can be the best 89 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: at what we want to do. When it comes to 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 4: evaluating players, putting together a team operating as a team 91 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: on the field, and then really the way everyone works 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: inside the building. And to do that, you tend to 93 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: look at other organizations fondly and see if you can 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: take some ideas and take some of the best and 95 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 4: brighters from them. 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: And I feel like we've done that. 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: And Gladstone, you talk about a guy who when I 98 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 4: talk to people out in LA they talk about being 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: a scouting savant in terms of understanding what they want 100 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: to Now, I say, he uses. 101 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: Really big words that we could break down simply. 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 4: When he talked about like intangible qualities and those things, 103 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: he could just say those qualities. 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: But I understand the ecosystlve. But oh yeah, I do like. 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: The fact that they talking about intangibles and guys that 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: love it and are passionate about the game. Because the 107 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: buzzword that people are annoyed with its culture. But the 108 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: only way that you get that is you got to 109 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 4: have a bunch of guys in the building that have 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: a shared set of beliefs, and that's coaches, players, that's 111 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: front office personnel. And I feel like that is first 112 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: and foremost. And then Liam Cohen also echoing that, but 113 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: also bringing an edge to him as a coach, a 114 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 4: throwback coach that wants to embrace the old school values 115 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: and traditions that have been very successful in this league 116 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: for a long time. 117 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Look, physicality and toughness. Old school never goes out of style. 118 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: I'm fascinated Bucky in talking to Gladstone a little bit. 119 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 5: Obviously there's a high level, a high level of intelligence, 120 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: but JP's heard me talk about it already. There also 121 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: seems to be a very high end skill of communication there, 122 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 5: the ability to get his thoughts and maintain in a 123 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: structure and a process, if you will, of making sure 124 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 5: that the assistant Wide Receivers coach knows what the West 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: Coast areas scout once in a player and really vice versa, 126 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: and that that language is the same, and that everybody 127 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 5: understands what everybody's doing. From your perspective, han't been on 128 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: the inside of this, How important is that ability for 129 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 5: a GM to make sure that that all is working 130 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 5: in sync? Because that's hard because the West Coast scout 131 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 5: might see the wide receivers coach once a year, right, 132 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 5: So how important is that what I'm talking about. 133 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: It's very important. 134 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 4: It's very important that it's very clear and established what 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 4: we want in a Jaguars player. First, the character stuff 136 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 4: has to be really really communicated. It has to be stressed, 137 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: It has to be emphasized that we want players who 138 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: have these kinds of traits when it comes to an 139 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: intangible card, intelligence, work ethic, overall football character, morecacter. 140 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: All those things. 141 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: But then when it comes to evaluate players, the West 142 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: Coast guys shouldn't be operating in a silo just Hey, 143 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: I like this player, so I'm gonna put a big 144 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: grade on this player. There has to be a constant 145 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: dialogue between coaches and scouts to clearly understand the type 146 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: of players that we want to bring back for the 147 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: team that we want to be, the scheme that we play, 148 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: and all of those things. And that comes through meetings 149 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: that they're having now, that comes through meetings that you 150 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: have through our training camp. That comes through self scouting 151 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: and being able to point out that this is the 152 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: type of player that we want. We need more of 153 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: these guys and less of those guys. And as you 154 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: continue to kind of beat that drum, scouts can pick 155 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: it up and they can come back and bring back 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: type of players that work. Because when we talk about 157 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: the Rams being the North Star. Look at how successful 158 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: that they've been with third, fourth, fifth, sixth round players 159 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: When they win years without having a first round pick. 160 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: The team didn't fall apart. They were able to get 161 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: guys that they were able to draft and play and 162 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: contribute because they knew exactly what they want to and the. 163 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: Coaches will put those guys on the field and a 164 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: lot of picks the next two years coming up for 165 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: the Jacks. 166 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you said the word savant in relation to 167 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 5: Gladstone you scouted, I haven't What does that mean to you? 168 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: And I guess dig down into that you know a bit. 169 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: What are the traits and how does that translate into 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 5: job performance. 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: When I talk about the savant that he brings that 172 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: he is, I'm talking about not only the intelligence, but 173 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: the emotional emotional feel for players. In those things, I'm 174 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: also talking about the ability to communicate at a high level, 175 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 4: not only to his staff but the coaches to players, 176 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: to clearly have an exchange of dialogue that allows everyone 177 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: to walk away clearly knowing what the expectations are when 178 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: it comes to looking at players. When it comes to 179 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: the players understanding the standards and norms of the team, 180 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: all of those things. 181 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: Great teams in every level communicate really, really well. 182 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: You have to be able to be open and honest 183 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: with the dialogue player, the player, player, the coach, coach, 184 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 4: the coach, and if you have that kind of environment 185 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 4: that has just been the building, then you don't have 186 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 4: these hitting agendas and you don't have these issues that 187 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: become bigger problems because no one has addressed him directly. 188 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: When I talk about what he has been able to 189 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 4: do as an evaluator and as a I can't even 190 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: say picker, but as a team builder, he exhibits those 191 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: qualities and is very apparent when you look at the 192 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 4: behind the scenes things that we've done already with him 193 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: in the Jaguars, when he met with the coaches, to 194 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 4: how he handled himself in front of the podium, huddle. 195 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: Up with Bucky Brooks, shape Shadwick, John Osier from Indianapolis 196 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: and the Jaggs have anue head coach. The opponents are 197 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: set and season group in Sweet ticket deposits are now available. 198 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: To be the first to select your seats for next season, 199 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 3: place your deposits today at Jaguars dot com, slash tickets 200 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: or coll nine oh four six three three, two thousand. 201 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: Another piece of this week is the entire coaching staff 202 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: is here. Usually if they come at all, they would 203 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: phase in depending on interviews with prospects and workouts and 204 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: timing and all that. Well, they're all here because they 205 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: haven't been together that long. They've got to have staff 206 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: meetings of working on building an offense, s defense, all 207 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 3: the actual terminology they're going to use. So this time 208 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 3: is valuable for Liam Cohen and his entire staff to 209 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: get on the same page. 210 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, don't waste a day because of the changing, the 211 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: changing scheduled, the way the combine operates, there are some 212 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: times in the day where the staff can get together. 213 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 4: It's not only about what they want to do X 214 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: and o's this part of it is getting everyone on 215 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: the same page. So we just spent the last segment 216 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 4: talking about how do you get the West Coast scout 217 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 4: to understand what the assistant wide receiver coach wants. You 218 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 4: put them in the room and you clearly have that conversation. 219 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: You have the assistant wide receiver coach do or presentation 220 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: on here the traits that we're looking for in our expercy. 221 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: Here's what we wanted Z and an F all of 222 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 4: those things, and then you might even have a quiz 223 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: where everyone is taking notes so that everyone understands the 224 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: entire coaching staff, the entire scouting staff. And then you 225 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: do the same thing in reverse from a scouting standpoint. 226 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: You talk about, these are the traits that we look 227 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: for in our personnel, and so coaches understand that, and 228 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: you're having prototypes that everyone sticks to, because when you 229 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: start making exceptions in terms of the type of players 230 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: you want, you have a team full of sceptions and 231 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: the team cannot sustain a level of success. 232 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: I'll give you one thing, and the you know you're 233 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: the league guy, You're the NFL Scouting combine guy. Most 234 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 5: take a number this week if you want to talk 235 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 5: to right, I had number thirteen. I had to wait 236 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: a month. Out of the entire coaching staff, what sort 237 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 5: of sticks out, Give me a guy that you know 238 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 5: something about out that you think will make a tangible difference. 239 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: There's so many good guys on staff. Okay, I'll say 240 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: this one. 241 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 4: When I look at the staff, I see guys who 242 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: are player development specialists, Guys who are really good at 243 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: teaching on the grass, meaning that they can give players 244 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: a set of drills that if they do consistently day 245 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: after day after day, they improve and they improve in games. 246 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: When I think about the offensive staff, the first guy 247 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 4: that comes to mind is the Jacksonville native Edgar Bennett. 248 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 4: And I will personally credit Eggabnnett to a lot of 249 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 4: success that I had in the league because as a 250 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 4: young guy, he showed me how to be a pro. 251 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: He took me in the offseason and showed me how 252 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: to do certain things. 253 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: When bank we. 254 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 4: Played together in Green Bay, Egrebnnitt would take me. We 255 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 4: had a basketball gym there, but we would lunch and 256 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: he was like, hey, it's really important how you build 257 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: up your lower body so you can avoid these lower 258 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: body soft tissue injuries. But then watching him go from 259 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: being a running back to being one of the premier 260 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: wide receiver coaches because he did that so he could 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: enhance his opportunities of being a play caller. He easily 262 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: could have said in the running back room and done 263 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: the things that he'd always done, but he stretched himself. 264 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: So I love seeing what that is. 265 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: Then on the defensive side of the ball, knowing Ron 266 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: Milis for so long and watching what he has been 267 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: able to do for so long with young DB's and 268 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 4: think about some of the issues that we had last year, 269 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: ball flying over the top of the defense and to 270 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 4: some of the communication issues and those things, and knowing that, look, 271 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: we're going to be running a defense that was really 272 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: successful at Boston College and really successful when they made 273 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: a transition up to Green Bay and Jeff Hafley did 274 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 4: a job. So to take people that have been in 275 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 4: that system that understand how to get young guys ready 276 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: to play in it. To me, it all matches up 277 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: and then what Liam wants to do with the quarterback 278 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 4: and how they want to build up the quarterback and 279 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: take the quarterback where he is and not necessarily change him, 280 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: but make him better given the skill set that he has. 281 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: To me, that's what it's about about the plays. 282 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: It's about the players and how can we make the 283 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: players that we have and the players that we're gonaquire better. 284 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: That is about the coaching. I'm excited about the coaches. 285 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: We got tuddle up with Bucky Brooks, J P. 286 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: Shadwick, John Osier from the Combine and in the Daily's 287 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: Place schedule has started. 288 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: Rod Stewart was last night. Oh Man man photos. I 289 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: saw him last year. He's good. Uh, but I didn't 290 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: go last night because we were here. 291 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: Young hearts be free tonight. 292 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: Apparently Coralie from manned March fifteenth, Teddy Swims made tenth 293 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: all the scheduled tickets Daily's Place dot com. 294 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: It is free. What are you looking at? Vine? Yeah? 295 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: Avril Levine June twenty third. 296 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 5: You know what, she's just a skater, boy said, see you, La, 297 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 5: that might be. 298 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: That might be the thing. 299 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: June, right after the offseason program for the offseason program in. 300 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: L You know how much I love OTAs in mini 301 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 4: camps and all those things takes. 302 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: Rolling down the La Freeway, Little Avril Levine on the 303 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 5: cassette player. 304 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: Why not my little, my little, my little Prius. Why not? 305 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: That'd be perfect. It'd be perfect, Like we should we 306 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: should do that to twenty third, I'm gonna put that 307 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: on my account. Maybe Biselli, you will give us a 308 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: couch at Daily's Place. 309 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 5: So I have one question for a bouck you for 310 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: you out? 311 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 312 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 5: Right this up. We've talked so much about change of culture, 313 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 5: right and at the top of the show we talked 314 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 5: about how they're changing the way they do things and 315 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 5: clearly bringing in every gm uh for fans who hear 316 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: this all the time, right, we've seen this regime change, sure, uh, 317 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 5: combine a lot. What do you look for as a 318 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 5: fan to see evidence of what we're talking about? How 319 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: does a Gladstone Cohen regime biselli? How's it going to 320 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: look different? Aside from record, but just what is it 321 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: going to feel like? 322 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: Do you know? 323 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 4: The hard thing is we can say all this stuff, 324 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: and we can talk about the off talk and pay 325 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: attention to the detail because I heard a lot of 326 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: that last off season. You know, we're tougher practices, more 327 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: attentative and all that, And at the end of the day, 328 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: it comes down to what does the team. 329 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Look like when we watch them? 330 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 4: A lot of it will be determined by the eyeball test, 331 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: not in terms of the results, but how this team look. 332 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: Do they play fast? Are they going from snap to whistle? 333 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: Do they run to the ball with violence? On offense? 334 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: Do they have a level of physicality where you see 335 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: the offensive lineman finishing blocks down the field? Are running 336 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: backs exhibiting more physicality and toughness as they're finishing? Do 337 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 4: you see the quarterback and the wide receivers have days 338 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: where the ball doesn't hit the ground in practice. All 339 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: of those things are part of the culture. But ultimately 340 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: we can talk about changing stuff, we can talk about 341 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: doing all these other things. At the end of the day, 342 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: does this team play different and that won't be determined 343 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: until we kick that thing off in. 344 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 5: Syptem get September. 345 00:16:52,600 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because none, that's it, none of it, no, no, no, 346 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: none of it matters when it comes to the record 347 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: I've set and I watched and we talked about last 348 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: year's practicing. Man, we're picking off so many passes, and 349 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 4: we're getting tips and overthrows and balls, balls, this and that, 350 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: and it didn't translate in games. 351 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 2: So ultimately, you want everyone to prepare well. 352 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 4: You wanted to practice will, You wanted to dominate the preseason, 353 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: but we judged behind it looks during the regular season, 354 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: so we got to play well when it really really matters. 355 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 3: Let's rap with Bucky Brooks. Mock draft came out yesterday. 356 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: Much do you know much time I spent on this. 357 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 4: That's probably why I got bags up in my minds. 358 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 4: A lot of time, but laboring over these points and 359 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: who's gonna go. 360 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: Let's go through the. 361 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: Top five then, because with all your hard work, I 362 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to leave anything out. 363 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: No. 364 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 3: Uh number one in your second mock draft, Abdul Carter 365 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: Penn State edg Rusher for the Titans. Uh, Cleveland Browns 366 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 3: are two cam Mood quarterback Giants are three Shooter Sanders 367 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: quarterback Patriots. At four, Will Campbell in offensive lineman from LSU. 368 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: And at number five the Jaguars with Travis Hunter, Colorado 369 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: corner and widers. 370 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: What's fun? It'd be fun? How much fun would that be? 371 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 5: I know he's a case where he's there, you gotta 372 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 5: take him right. 373 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: Look, he's a really good player. He's a really instinctive player. 374 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 4: As I believe we transition from more of a man 375 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: to man defense to his own defense where we have 376 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 4: eyes on the ball. You're not gonna find many guys 377 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: with better ball skills and hand eye coordination than Travis Hunter. 378 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: This is a guy who is funny. 379 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 4: We're talking about him as a dB, but he won 380 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: the Blitnikoff Award for being the best wide receiver in 381 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: college football. Yet I'm saying his best position is cornerback. 382 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: That I don't think he was a no. Which is crazy, 383 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 4: because if you saw the amount of plays that he 384 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: made on the ball, I understand it. 385 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: He's unique. 386 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's generational in terms of we've never 387 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: seen that before. We have, though we've seen Champ Bailey 388 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: and Charles Wilson and all those guys. 389 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: Go. He's a really good football player. 390 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: And I think when you are the Jaguars at this point, 391 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: you're just looking to add really good football players. The 392 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: other name that is constantly tied to the Jags has 393 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: been Mason Graham, another good football player who doesn't have 394 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 4: prototypical length, but as the dominant player. 395 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a guy. I guess that when you see 396 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 5: him at the combine, you think, okay, well, not the 397 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 5: most physically impressive guy ever to walk through here. But 398 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: when you watch him play, you think, this guy can't miss. 399 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: I mean they can't miss. They all miss. 400 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 4: Loves it, but be very good. Loves it comes out 401 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: in this way. You see the production he used to 402 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: the performance, all those things. He's tough. We need some 403 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: more tough guys along that front line. 404 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: He would is there any danger? The only the only 405 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 5: thing concerns me about a Travis Hunter pick is this 406 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 5: It seems like for the last decade, JP, when I 407 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: answer fan questions, it's why don't we build up the lines? 408 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: We gotta be better on the line. Were gonna be 409 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 5: better on the line, and then when it gets to 410 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 5: the draft, you find an excuse or a reason not 411 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 5: to go line. At some point, do you just have 412 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: to commit to that buckets or is I guess that's 413 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 5: the dilemma? Right, That's what every team faces every year. 414 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: Every team faces that. 415 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: The only team I mean not the only team, but 416 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: the teams that are done and well commit to it. 417 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: They make sure they guarantee that a no matter what, 418 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 4: we are going to take an offensive or defensive linement 419 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: in the first two rounds because that's where the blue 420 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 4: chair players come out of. And we are committed to 421 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: making sure that we're dominant at the trenches in this scenario. 422 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 4: Like we can talk about Travis Hunt and those things, 423 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 4: but if you ask me who we need to get, 424 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: there has to be something. It has to be a 425 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: trench warrior if you're going to be a physical team. 426 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: We saw this last year with Jim Harbaugh and the 427 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: charges and everyone's like, all right, you gotta take this 428 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: and take that, and he was like, Yeah, we're gonna 429 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: take an offensive time because this is who we're gonna be. 430 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see, as we're building this team. 431 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: Out and we're talking about being a tougher, throwback type team, 432 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: are we committed to building in the trenches because that's 433 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: where the games are won and lost. 434 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 435 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: I think the interesting push and pull internal conflict JP 436 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: is is they've got to have secondary players, right, I mean, 437 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 5: they've you know, the secondary Tyson Campbell, beyond that, a 438 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: lot of question marks. At the same time, when Gladstone 439 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 5: talked yesterday, he said, what makes a lot of sense. 440 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 5: He talked about building the lines and about guys who 441 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 5: could score. You know that philosophically, that was sort of 442 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 5: the area he talked that doesn't include secondary So that's 443 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: sort of so let's let's scrimp out four thirteen. He 444 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 5: got worse us than one, but. 445 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's scrimmage that out as it relates, so 446 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: we can talk about the RAMS ecosystem. 447 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: But what he says, you go back and close. 448 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 4: You go back and look at the past drafts of 449 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: the Philly of for Eagles and what they've invested in 450 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 4: Earland Lineman and people who can score points. Devontis Smith 451 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: was taking early in draft because he can put the 452 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 4: ball into paint. They invested money in aj Brown because 453 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: he can put the ball in the paint. 454 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: Uh. 455 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 4: When they draft those linemen oppensive and defensive because they 456 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: can dominate the line of scrimmage, I am all for that. 457 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: You gotta put points on the board because as much 458 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: as I want to throw throw it back to nineteen 459 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 4: eighties and have these slobbery knocker games, we're playing great defense. 460 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: If you cannot score in this league, it's hard to win. 461 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 4: And so you have to be able to score from 462 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: anywhere in the field, and sometimes that means a playmaker 463 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 4: has to be a top pick. 464 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: You're play one hundred at corner and with some packages 465 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: and offense. I am I am playing at the corner. 466 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 4: I think his ball skills, his instincts are just ridiculous, 467 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 4: and he's good enough to be a wide receiver three. 468 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: Or four, but primarily he needs to play corner. 469 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: And Will Johnson from Michigan is also another good player 470 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: who's versatile, can play manners on high IQ, toughness, all 471 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: that other stuff. They're a handful of selection that can 472 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 4: go there. But when you talk about Gladstone, because here's 473 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: what we know. When you're in these podiums over here 474 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 4: and everyone wants to play poker and they want they 475 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: can't help. 476 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: But reveal their hand, right. 477 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 4: I feel like he kind of showed you some aces 478 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: when he said that, and we should just think about that, 479 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: because maybe when he talked about scoring points, maybe Travis 480 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 4: Hunter is someone who scores check points. There's a red 481 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: our receiver that scores points. Knows interesting thing, It's an 482 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 4: interesting thought. Tomorrow we'll have a lot more interesting thoughts. 483 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: Jaguars Happy Hour, four o'clock, Pete Prisco and Tony BUSSELLI 484 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 4: for the last time. Oh, I hope you've got gifts 485 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: for Tony. You got gift with gifts, he's gifting us stuff. 486 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: We are no, but you gotta givehim a fairy a 487 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: parting gift handshake. 488 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: No, no, no no. 489 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: If this is his last thing we tried for another 490 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 4: dinner that we have not trying for that. 491 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. 492 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: If he's he's been on Happy Hour, he's been committed 493 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: to the show. 494 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: He's been a great picture of the show. 495 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 4: I would expect to see like a parton gift letters, cards, balloons, 496 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 4: maybe something we got tweets for days. 497 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 5: Maybe run over to CBS. 498 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: Right, be busy tonight trying to find something. 499 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 5: On Valentine's Day. 500 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: You just get the card by the reds one. 501 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 5: Uh. 502 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: That'll do it for a huddle up this week. We'll 503 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: we'll do it again next week. By should be fine 504 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 3: looking forard enjoy the combine. 505 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: This is your world. We just walk in it. I 506 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: can't wait, man, I can't wait for a dinner. Got him? 507 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: We put a Jaguars dinner. 508 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 5: So are we have a long wait? 509 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, John Oser, I'm JP Shadwick and thanks for 510 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: watching and listenings. Huddle up with Bucky Brooks