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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two here of the Drive on

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Speaker 2: a Monday, as we are moving and shaken, and it

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Speaker 2: sounds like the Detroit Lions have found their next offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Drew Petsing, who was just with the Cardinals thirty eight

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Speaker 2: years old, one of those risers in the industry, so

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Speaker 2: that would take Remember that was one.

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Speaker 3: Of the smith that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was to localize that. Arthur Smith was involved

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Speaker 2: in that. But it looks that's a nice gig. That

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Speaker 2: is a very nice gig.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you go do that for a year or go

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Speaker 3: be like the offensive line offensive coordinator for a year.

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Speaker 3: That's a good gig.

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Speaker 2: Man Gibbs, Gibbs and Aman Ross Saint Brown. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: that that offensive line. That's certainly and he's considered an

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Speaker 2: innovative dude.

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Speaker 3: I mean, both sides of ball is impressed with Arizona,

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Speaker 3: especially when Gannon originally took over and they had no talent.

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Speaker 3: They were competitive through scheme and that's something we said for.

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Speaker 2: That certainly is yeah, certainly is I think he's I

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Speaker 2: think he's on the right path.

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Speaker 3: He's young too, or he's like thirty eight under.

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Speaker 2: Forty thirty eight, Yeah, only only a few years older

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Speaker 2: than me. What am I doing with my life? I'm

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Speaker 2: having fun here every single day, baby, Matt, divisional round

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Speaker 2: a What a quinn quintuplet? Is that?

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Speaker 3: For?

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Speaker 2: Am? I?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is?

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Speaker 2: That's five? Quit? I'm trying to be too smart. Four

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Speaker 2: games this weekend, and really other than that Seahawks Niners game,

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Speaker 2: I thought they all delivered. How about that one in

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Speaker 2: different ways? I didn't see that colored. I didn't, but

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Speaker 2: I thought that we we both thought that the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: would win. Yeah, and we said we thought about the

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Speaker 2: seven point line was about right? Forty one to six?

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Speaker 2: Good lord, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean they were. They're a freight train right now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's rule that we could start with, because that'll

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Speaker 2: probably be the one with the least amount of talking points.

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Speaker 3: I know, you're in a group textra with your bodies,

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Speaker 3: and I am two and there's a bunch of us

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Speaker 3: on there. When Shah took the opening opening kickoff back

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Speaker 3: to the house, Mike, that might be all that and

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Speaker 3: it was, I mean, that's seven was more than the

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Speaker 3: than they put up.

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Speaker 2: I mean they could have done it, like you said,

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald could have dropped back and spiked it into

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Speaker 3: Ye advanced.

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Speaker 2: It still won seven to six.

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Speaker 3: And he kind of did. I think he only threw

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people saw the score and

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Speaker 2: they thought, oh, well, Sam Donald's good. There goes that

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Speaker 2: concern about it were performing in big games. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't bad, but he didn't do anything either.

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Speaker 3: They were one with Drew Locke, Well, you are right.

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Speaker 2: Twelve of seventeen one hundred and twenty four yards in

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Speaker 3: He never was really asked to do much of anything.

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Speaker 2: And Kenneth Walker, I mean he's running the ball like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks great. He's a free agent this year

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Speaker 3: The defense is nasty good. Shanahan's really struggled against that team.

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Speaker 2: Yes he has. That's that's a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: it felt like that one might have been over from

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Speaker 2: interesting off season for the Niners ahead here.

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Speaker 3: So their head coach obviously has Ravens ties. Oh you're

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Speaker 3: talking about McDonald McDonald McDonald, because I'm spending this back

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Speaker 3: to the Steelers just real quick here is Mincher and

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Speaker 3: what's going on in Seattle right now? And I might

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Speaker 3: even know what they call it. They don't call it

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Speaker 3: the legion boom or whatever. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But one thing that the Seahawks do as well as anyone,

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Speaker 3: our listeners to start thinking through this lens, is they

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Speaker 3: stop the run out of nickel and play too high.

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Speaker 3: in today's NFL. If I can stay in nickel still

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Speaker 3: That's what everyone's driving.

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Speaker 2: For completely agree. Yeah, And isn't that how the Eagles

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Speaker 2: gave them Homes and Company absolute hell in the Super

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Speaker 3: Yep? Absolutely, I mean a lot of stems from Fangio

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Speaker 2: With that front foor, just beat them up with your

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Speaker 3: Like the Texans play, it's stylistically different than Seattle. There

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Speaker 3: But that's what everyone's kind of looking for is if

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Speaker 3: I can build my defense that I can stay in

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Speaker 2: Time, I can stop the run with six in the box.

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Speaker 3: And keep too high in some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 3: Even if they're aggressive come down downhill players, you're hard

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Speaker 3: to beat, you know. And Seattle's like Epitimizing.

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Speaker 2: That right now makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: And actually, I mean the Chargers did a good job

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Speaker 2: You said, Mentor, right, that's what I mentioned, Yeah, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jesse Mentor. Of course, who is the Chargers defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Who is in the mix for the Steelers next head coach.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be in the mix in a lot

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Speaker 2: of places, I think, but we do know here in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore two Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, So forty one to six.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the only of the divisional playoffs that, like

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Speaker 2: I said, I mean a lot of time capsule, a

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Speaker 2: lot of crazy games that played out. Let's stay with Saturday.

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Speaker 2: It was the first of the four playoff games, but

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Speaker 2: thirty three to thirty overtime win against the Buffalo Bills. Matt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now that we know about McDermott, we've had

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Speaker 3: I think so too. I mean, I mean, I can

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Speaker 2: Four turnovers that ties a career high for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I can also see why he felt forced

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Speaker 3: sometimes descriptingite too, you know, I mean, you just can't.

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Speaker 3: No one's gonna play at that level every week, and

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Speaker 3: there's no chance to even advance if he doesn't play

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Speaker 3: a stellar, a A plus game the leagu before absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and we know they're not even a playoff team without

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Speaker 3: him being awesome. But he hurt the team more than

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Speaker 3: he helped them. Without question. That turnover at the end

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, what are you doing, man, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a second here. There's two things that

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Speaker 3: It, and this is something we should talk about every

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Speaker 3: year because it always holds true because we saw four

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Speaker 3: you know you're in the round two of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: None of these teams are one. Yeah, no one's bad.

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Speaker 3: Everybody won or earned it. More games are lost than one.

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Speaker 3: They just are. I mean, it's such a Belichick thing.

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Speaker 3: It's such a Brady thing. But all those bad weather

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Speaker 3: for it. I mean, but it really really shows this

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Speaker 2: You're spot on. In fact, you were mentioned you know,

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Speaker 2: TJ last night of like, it is amazing the resources,

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Speaker 2: it's still one hundred times more. How many video staff

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Speaker 3: And their sleep and you know, especially quarterback. I mean

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Speaker 2: As we've mentioned, these these billion dollar dollar businesses that

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Speaker 2: that it still comes down to who doesn't put the

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Its unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Like even you know, we'll get to the New England

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Speaker 3: Houston game, and what a disaster Shroud was. Patriots played

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Speaker 3: it less, I mean, made more and more mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Broncos made some mistakes too, like no question bo Nicks

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So the other other thing that really stood out

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Speaker 3: to me that is a key. Yeah, that's point one

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Speaker 2: Totally with you on that. That slapped me in the

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Speaker 3: So I tweeted this when I thought the Bears were

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Speaker 2: To much more so than Caleb. Totally about that here.

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Speaker 3: You make the right hire this year, and maybe next

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Speaker 2: Imagine imagine it's Saturday night and you're a Broncos fan

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Speaker 3: Either on the kneel down or the play before.

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Speaker 3: But okay, there was a scramble that people were trying.

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Speaker 3: No, it would be like if uh friar Mouth's got

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Speaker 2: Matt in kind of piggybacking off of the It is

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Speaker 3: No, So anyone watching that game almost had to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and not all of them were lost. There were

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Speaker 2: There's a reason that people talked about it at nauseum

437
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow and Kenny p Yeah. Yeah, people don't

438
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: just make up stuff to talk, well sometimes stuff to

439
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 2: talk not in the scouting world. And you can absolutely

440
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: overblow it and I'd still take them.

441
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's remarkably acting.

442
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Speaker 2: I'll never forget me and you that that Joe Burrow Year,

443
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett Year, I can't remember which one it was,

444
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 2: but they were so close to each other. Yeah, Matt

445
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 2: and I were at the combine doing a radio segment

446
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 2: measuring my hand in the middle of do you remember

447
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: that the tape measure and you and you're like, no, West,

448
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: you have to break the wrist. You don't just get

449
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 2: to put it down at.

450
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: Ben Whiles as I did that there's a spot right

451
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: here that you do arm length too, is where you

452
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 3: go from anyway, So the Patriots were far from perfect.

453
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Speaker 3: To keep an eye on that with may. Now, if

454
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: I was Stroud's defense attorney, I'd be like, boy, I

455
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 3: really could have used Nico. The run game was unbelievably bad,

456
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 3: which doesn't make the Steelers look great.

457
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 2: A complete yeah what he marks averaged one point two yards.

458
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 3: Just totally shut down. Yeah. Now, and I do think

459
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: the Patriots defense is really really good and getting better,

460
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 3: peaking at the right time. I'll say that healthy and

461
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 3: compounding it, the one guy he could count on, Schultz,

462
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: got hurt very.

463
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: Early early that that really hurt them.

464
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: So all those things factored in, as did the weather.

465
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 3: And when we previewed Steelers Houston, his dome versus road

466
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 3: splits were noticeably better at home, and weather might be

467
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: an issue with Stroud, and frankly, he may even be.

468
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 3: I hope he has an injury, to be honest with you.

469
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he was terrible against the Steelers. We previewed

470
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Speaker 3: that game to no end, and I thought, man, he's

471
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: getting a bum rap guys, you're sleeping on Stroud. And

472
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 3: he made me look dumb because he played. I called

473
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Speaker 3: him a double agent all last week, you know, like

474
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: he looked like he was getting paid by both teams

475
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: in that Steeler game, then he was noticeably worse this weekend,

476
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Speaker 3: Like rarely do you see the body language and the

477
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 3: unbelievably bad decisions like I have to undefensible, you know,

478
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 3: not like someone ran a wrong route. I mean, not

479
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: all interceptions are created equal. I'd say that a lot

480
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: his were on him and not protecting himself or putting

481
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Speaker 3: the ball away. I mean, like, I know it's like

482
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: unheard of, but I think I would have had to

483
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: put Davis Mills in at halftime. I mean it kind

484
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: of ruins the whole vibe, you don't, you know, bench

485
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: Roethlisberger for Gradkowski, you know, but still he was destroying them.

486
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 3: And rarely do you see something.

487
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: Like that two times in six days.

488
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got bad.

489
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 2: I don't remember. And again this is another one of

490
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Speaker 2: those like we were talking about with the bow knicks

491
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Speaker 2: injury and some of these things. If we really took

492
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Speaker 2: ten minutes to research it and think about it, I'm

493
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: sure we could come up with an example. But I

494
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: kept thinking watching that game. Our buddy Arthur Motes loves

495
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: to say, you never crown a guy off a one year,

496
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: like whether it's his rookie year, whether it's his start

497
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: or fourth like you never crown a guy off a

498
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Speaker 2: one year because a lot of guys can do the

499
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: Kendro Bell thing. I mean, you know what I mean,

500
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: A lot of guys can have a great season and

501
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: never then get back to that point or live up

502
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Speaker 2: to it. Film on them, the book on them is

503
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: out and they're unable to adjust all these different things.

504
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: I think you at least have to address. Is Stroud

505
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: that guy?

506
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: I mean, that is great. That is the biggest if

507
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: you're Houston right now, priority one through ten in your

508
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: off season is how do we get c J. Stroud

509
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: back to where he was?

510
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you wonder if it's like David Carr, you know,

511
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 3: like I've just gotten beat organization, yeah, or Tim couch Er,

512
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: you know, one of these ones wherever I just don't

513
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: trust anything around me anymore. So this is Gonna who

514
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: was starting to go down that road, who was definitely

515
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: down the road.

516
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's a great, great one for Tua.

517
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: And this might sound harsh, in fact, it probably does,

518
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: but I was saying this, I was saying this to

519
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: TV and Nathan before you got here today. I I

520
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: think part of it to use a funny lot like

521
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: I think CJ. Stroud after his rookie year, got a

522
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: little too high on his own supply.

523
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe maybe, Like this is easy, you see you.

524
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: And and and this stuff always happens after a bad

525
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: loss and a bad performance. I know that, But like

526
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: you see all these clips being unearthed of like him

527
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: talking down to Caleb Williams, him on podcasts talking about

528
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: he's better than Joe Burrow and Josh Allen and he's

529
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: a top five quarterback in the league.

530
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Speaker 3: I didn't know any of those things.

531
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: Like he's TV was reminded me like he's been He's

532
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: been spending a lot of time in the offseason with

533
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: like some supermodel women that don't have the greatest reputations.

534
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: And it's like, did he just get a little high

535
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: on his own supply that great rookie season and everyone

536
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 2: told him how crazy he was? And this is easy?

537
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 3: And I think that everybody blames the coordinator in year

538
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: two who the year before was getting head coaching Candida season,

539
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that might happen again this year, where

540
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: which I would understand, Like if I'm if I was

541
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 3: the owner, I might be like, all right, got the

542
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 3: coaching staff draft ten linemen again, and we're gonna run

543
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: it back with CJ. But in the back of the head,

544
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: you're like, we might have to get a quarterback. Yeah,

545
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't believe I've gotten that point with him.

546
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: After this rookie season. It was like, yeah, it was

547
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 2: like this guy might go to the Hall of Fame.

548
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago. I'm like, he's you know, we were

549
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: ranking quarterbacks. I'm like Rogers or Shroud. You know, I'm

550
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 3: like Lawrence or Shroud. Seems foolish. Now. It's only two games,

551
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: but they were as bad as you can get.

552
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: I am not writing him off by any mean, no,

553
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: I certainly think he can get it back. But they

554
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: got to figure out how to do that this last season.

555
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: And he would be far from the first athlete who

556
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: started out their career well, dipped down and then got back.

557
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

558
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, but man, it's it really drives home like you

559
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: almost like you never really make it, you never really

560
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: arrive in the National Football League, you know, like every

561
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: year you got to sing for your supper man.

562
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I felt like this frankly, And oh, by

563
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: the way, Houston's defense is still awesome.

564
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 2: No doubt, No doubt.

565
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: Boute made a play or two, but still you couldn't

566
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: ask any more out of Houston's D. But I felt

567
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: like this in the Steeler game against Houston for the

568
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 3: Steeler offense, same way, I almost I mean not the

569
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: mistakes and the embarrassing quarterback play, but I felt like

570
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 3: Houston really And this was true with the Niners this weekend,

571
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: Steelers last weekend against Seattle, and Houston's defense is and

572
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 3: those three games I'm referencing that you're not even first downs.

573
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 3: I mean like everything is a struggle. I mean, like

574
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: you're the chances of you winning this game. You're not

575
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: gonna turn this thing around and get hot, you know,

576
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: like Shanahan against Seattle was like nothing. I called nothing.

577
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna do flea flickers and reverse pass.

578
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: I mean like I got nothing else.

579
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: I got nothing. I can't run the ball, can't throw

580
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: the ball right gas it plays, we got here right right.

581
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: And then finally, Matt what might have been the best game.

582
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was pretty awesome.

583
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: I think the first in the last games of the

584
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: weekend were both really good. Both overtime games. The Rams

585
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: pull it out in Chicago after a crazy comeback by

586
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: the Bears. Then that interception by Caleb Williams that you mentioned,

587
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: but I think we're on the same page. That felt

588
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: like DJ Moore just totally quit on his route. I'm

589
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: not pinning that one on Caleb Williams. The Rams find

590
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: a way to get it done. That sets up a

591
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: heck of a third NFC West showdown between Seattle and

592
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: LA for the NFC Championship. But I would not be

593
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: too down. Like, for example, if I'm waking up a

594
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: Texans fan in today, I'm like, oh no, you know,

595
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: like yeah, like this is I'm axl Rose. Where do

596
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: we go?

597
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

598
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.

599
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: If I'm a Bears fan, I'm waking up today and

600
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, I got a headache and that sucked last night,

601
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: and I'm down on the dumps, but I'm feeling really

602
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: good about the future.

603
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: Still, I'm excited. We'll do We'll talk about a lot

604
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: of teams off seasons, but this would be one of

605
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: my favorite ones to talk about because the defense is

606
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: getting better. I was really worried about the defense.

607
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: You'll laugh at this. I wrote in my notes here

608
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: on the notepad to ask you who has a brighter future,

609
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: Bears or Texans. Who would you feel better about being

610
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: a fan of today, But I haven't even brought it

611
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: up to you because I think it's pretty clear. It's like,

612
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 2: it's pretty clear in Chicago.

613
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I give the quarterback and coaching advantage

614
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: definitely to Chicago in terms of things that need fixed,

615
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: huge advantage to Chicago. Rarely am I this guy, But

616
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: that might be one of the teams to me that

617
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: I would package picks to go get the second best

618
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: defensive end in the draft, you know, go from like

619
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Speaker 3: twenty five to twelve, and get get me one more

620
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: study guys that we've talked about, or a d tackle,

621
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: one more study lineman. And I'm looking at that team

622
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: like they'll be fine, you know, right, and you don't

623
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: want to crown them after one year, I mean, because

624
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: things would go drastically.

625
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: South Commanders and they they're built.

626
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 3: Like they're built to stay. Yes. Yeah, And the Rams

627
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: I saw this today were didn't speaking of not beating

628
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: yourself and they woul didn't play a perfect game either,

629
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: and whether it was you know a factor in all

630
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: these games, but no penalties the whole game. Wow, I

631
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: didn't double check it, but yeah, I heard someone say

632
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 3: this and we're credited with no drops. So I mean, yeah,

633
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 3: they weren't perfect.

634
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: One penalty for five yards according to ESPN, right according

635
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: to ESPN's team stats, but still one penalty for five.

636
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: Yards game like that. And windy Chicago, I mean, you

637
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: played a pretty clean game on and all you know.

638
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: Yes you did, yes you did. And that experience of

639
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: the Rams I think really really showe through. Just even

640
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: in those moments where it looked like it was all

641
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: going Chicago's way, they never blinked. And now Matt.

642
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: Defense worries me a little bit, a little bit, which

643
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I wouldn't hire Shula or anything like that

644
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: for the Steelers. But they go round, they go run

645
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: on a lot, and these last six weeks or so

646
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: they have not looked great.

647
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: They I would agree with you on that, Yeah, but

648
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: many they have faced some really good competition in that

649
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: in that time period too. They have, But they did

650
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: they give one hundred and sixty yards on the ground rushing,

651
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: but hey, only seventeen points to that Chicago team in

652
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: that stadium, in that environment. Yeah, but I tell you what,

653
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Speaker 2: Matt like, I am very excited. While the NFC Championship

654
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: doesn't seem that thrilling, in the absence of Bo Nicks. Now,

655
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Speaker 2: h yeah, man, the NFC Championship. I think you and

656
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: I have been talking about this since probably mid December,

657
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: but I think there's a real chance that the Rams

658
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: and the Seahawks are the best teams in the NFL.

659
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: They've been number one and two on our power rankings

660
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: for a long time.

661
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Speaker 3: I don't know how you don't put Seattle one at

662
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Speaker 3: this point.

663
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Speaker 2: And you were one of the Rams, the Rams believer,

664
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Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I'm sure Seattle, with it being

665
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: at home, two will be favorites in that one. I

666
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: bet you. The line's probably out.

667
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: Too, but I'm guessing it's four and a half.

668
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: That those those feel like that. Have they been for

669
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: a month, month and a half, two months the best

670
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: teams in football? And now we get them in an

671
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: NFC Championship game. Seattle two and a half point Foods

672
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: at home on the opening line, which is about right.

673
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. You want to guess the cheapest get

674
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: in price right now for Seattle La eight and fifty

675
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: two dollars and that's before fees. And we're talking like

676
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: the nose bleeds of the nose bleed just.

677
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: To get in the door. Probably couldn't cost you a

678
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: grand or so.

679
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, TV was TV was laughing at me. We were

680
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: looking at the National Championship tickets for tonight earlier and like,

681
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: to sit in the nosebleeds is like thirty eight hundred

682
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: and thirty nine hundred dollars, And TV was like, would

683
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: you pay this if WU was in the National Championship game?

684
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'd pay five grand to sit

685
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: in the lower bowl, Like I wouldn't pay thirty eight

686
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: hundred to sit in the nosebleeds? Are five grand to

687
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: like get good seats down low? I'll pay five grand.

688
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: To get makes sense.

689
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: But yes, it's not gonna happen, so we don't have

690
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: to worry about this, bros. But if WV was playing

691
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: in the National Championship tonight, I would not be iage

692
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: in your house. I'd be in South Beach, Miami right

693
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: now with my parp off about seventy beers.

694
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: Deep every one of these Indiana games because he never

695
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: thought he'd see this day. And how could you possibly

696
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: think that?

697
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: I said to Jacob, I was like, I get it.

698
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: You like his like two best friends from college live

699
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: in New York and his sister and his sister went

700
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: to IU two, So he's going to watch the game

701
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: with them. I get and like, that'll flying to New

702
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: York and back and doing that. It'll be much cheaper

703
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: than Miami and going to the game, And like, I

704
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: get it.

705
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: But I was like, man, so a fun weekend, right.

706
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: Man, I don't know. I might if I were you guys,

707
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: I might have mortgaged. I might have taken out a

708
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: second mortgage, might have taken out a second mortgage on

709
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: the house and gone down there, because yeah, that's gonna

710
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: be potentially once in a lifetime type type stuff. But

711
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: divisional round in the weekend or divisional results in the

712
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: books part of me. And I'm with you, Matt, Like

713
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: my last night, I could not stop thinking that, Like

714
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: it is amazing how specialized the National Football League is

715
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Yeah, game of inches, all this stuff,

716
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: and it so often comes down to just who doesn't

717
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: make the mistakes, who's more buttoned up?

718
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: Rarely is it's Seattle, San fran Like oh this is over?

719
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, rarely, And you know what too, even to

720
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: that standpoint, probably wouldn't have mattered. But if you're San

721
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Francisco and you don't give up an opening kickoff touchdown. Right,

722
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: Maybe you get to the fourth quarter and it's a

723
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: ten point game and it's not a complete blood. Could

724
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: have certainly still been the case, but.

725
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: It's like, but immediately it was like, oh no.

726
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 2: A special team's gaff and they take it to the

727
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: house and it's like.

728
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: This might be over.

729
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: It was crazy, crazy how quick it happen. So a

730
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: it's been a wild kind of forty eight hours across

731
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: the National Football League from the results of the Divisional

732
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: round too. Obviously a lot more moving and shaking in

733
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: the coaching department, which will only continue here over over

734
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: the next week or two. Also, one more piece of

735
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: that that I wanted to just mention, Jeff Olbrick, the

736
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: Falcons defensive coordinator retained by Stefanski.

737
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: It's a really good move. Trust me. I had one

738
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: eye open, Like, if Steers hire an offense coordinator.

739
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 2: He'd be a guy today.

740
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, He's really good at his job. Okay,

741
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: so you like, I think that's Stefanski all Brick combinations better.

742
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: I mean, if I was a Falcons fans like, that's

743
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: better than I was hoping for. That's great.

744
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 2: It might be the best coaching combination of the division.

745
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: We like more and what he's done in New Orleans.

746
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: But I mean, Everro's getting attention. Yeah hear yeah, but

747
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: it's you're very happy with that if you're a Falcons fan.

748
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: I think I think it worked out pretty well for Atlanta, considering,

749
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, no f Trump pick, and they're not in

750
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: the greatest position, but I think they've done a good

751
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: job ensuring up that staff. One more segment to go

752
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: on the other side, we'll cross some te's and dot

753
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: some eyes and we will obviously give some thoughts a

754
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 2: few minutes here to tonight's college football National Championship game

755
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: in Miami between the Miami Hurricanes and the Indiana Who

756
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: who Hoosiers all that mores. We wrap this thing up

757
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: when we returned. We wass Shuler, Matt Williamson. It is

758
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

759
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Your teams about Drive on your twenty four to seven

760
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

761
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on the Drive on this Monday,

762
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: January nineteenth, and that means, hey, you enjoyed the last

763
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: two days of football. We'll get ready for a third.

764
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: I yeah, cherry on top, Little.

765
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: Cherry on top college football National Championship? Can I laugh

766
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: with you? You know who Paul fine bamb is.

767
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: Hmmm, he like a reporter, news guy.

768
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: He's almost he's almost like the media czar.

769
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: Guy of college football, like a schefter or more of

770
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: like an analyst, more.

771
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: Of like an analyst media, So kind of like Chris

772
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: Berman is for football, you know, someone someone like that.

773
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: And boy is he upset that the SEC is a

774
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: third straight year without a team in the National Championship.

775
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: I saw Fine bomb on ESPN today and he's like,

776
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: he's like, he's like, because whoever wins this is gonna

777
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: get overshadowed, especially if it's Indiana, it's gonna get overshadowed

778
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: by the NFL.

779
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: One.

780
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be saying that if it was Alabama in

781
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: Ohio State. And I realize Indiana is not Alabama or

782
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: Ohio State, but two college football always gets overshadowed by

783
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: the by the NFL.

784
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: Like that's gonna be the case regardless.

785
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: So so I was just laughing at that today. He

786
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: was like, Indiana winning tonight would be worst case scenario

787
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: for college football? Would it?

788
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: Like I think it's tremendous.

789
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: I think it's tremendous. I think if you actually care about.

790
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: College in first overall, pick guy and you know, right.

791
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: Like this might shock you. But I don't watch college

792
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 2: football because I like the big brands. Yeah, I watch

793
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: college football because I need Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Missivery

794
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: in the national I think every year. To be right,

795
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: I completely agree, completely agree, And tonight is about of

796
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: a refreshing national championship game as you could have. Yeah.

797
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: I want to ask you one question.

798
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: Will four tickets go for it?

799
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: What percentage crowd do you think this will be? I

800
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: know it's in Miami Stadium.

801
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, six forty Miami.

802
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: Okay. I don't know how big a school Miami is,

803
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: but much smaller compared to Indiana's.

804
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: They're like the third biggest. I don't think people know this.

805
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: I like the third biggest alumni network in the country.

806
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 3: I didn't know it until this week. I mean frankly,

807
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: because my daughter got accepted there and my buddy was

808
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, like on his way down there.

809
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: He's like, there is I use stuff everywhere here.

810
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: Actually, let's see here. Number one is Indiana University. Number two,

811
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: Penn State number three, Michigan UCLA four, Ohio State five.

812
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: So it was Penn State for a long time, but

813
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: IU is now number one.

814
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: There's the most alumni walking the planet right now in event.

815
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: For eight hundred thousand living alumni approximate they have three

816
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: thousand more a living alumni than Penn State. Okay, wow,

817
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: according to the Princeton Review.

818
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: I'm guessing there the sixty percent they might be.

819
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: I mean, the game is in Miami.

820
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: I'm just judging off my buddy. He's like, I'd have

821
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: paid anything to your WU. And if there's that many

822
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: to pick from, and it's a good school, a lot

823
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 3: of people graduate there have money, very good. Like I'm

824
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: going south instead of hanging out, and I think wherever

825
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: I live nowadays, you couldn't you could convince me to

826
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: go to Miami right now.

827
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: And I think it'd be a lot different too. If

828
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: Indiana's basketball program had been firing on all cylinders recently

829
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: and a lot of those a lot of those alumni

830
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Speaker 2: and people with money had been like, well we've been

831
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: going to they'ven't done any of that in decades, let's go.

832
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: So it's like basketball program has been bad for a

833
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: really long time and look at our football program. I

834
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: mean we say hyperbolic stuff like this all the time,

835
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: but it might be they win tonight. It might complete

836
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: the greatest turnaround story in the history of college sports. Wow,

837
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: Like they had never won ten games before as a

838
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: program until last year.

839
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable.

840
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: You know, Wu's won ten games as a program multiple

841
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: times in the twenty first century. Pitts won ten games

842
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: as a program twice in the twenty first century. Win

843
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: ten you know, once every day, may once every decade

844
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: or so. You have a really good year, you go

845
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: ten and two. You know, you're in your conference in

846
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: Michigan's down and you know, like you.

847
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: Get two wins against last year, the.

848
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: First time ever winning ten games as a program in

849
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Speaker 2: school history.

850
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Speaker 3: They're one of the worst programs there the history of this.

851
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: Their all time winning record as a program is like

852
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: thirty some percent. Yeah, Like if you look at their

853
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: program history win.

854
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Percentage vant yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

855
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: I mean it it would be matt if Penn State

856
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 2: basketball won the national championship in two years, Like that's

857
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: the Yeah, yeah, that's the type of turnaround. It's it's unbelievable.

858
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: It's more likely the Pirates win the World Series.

859
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: If the Pirates, If the Pirates were to win the

860
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: World Series in two years, but that would still be

861
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: more likely because that's at least a professional team.

862
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 3: Right to compete.

863
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: There's no salary cap, but there's all the other parameters

864
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: in pace, and yes, only thirty one others to compete

865
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Speaker 2: with as opposed to one hundred sum here, if the Raiders.

866
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 3: Win the Super Bowl in two years is way more likely,

867
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: way more likely, way more likely.

868
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Speaker 2: And then Miami, who is of course a traditional power

869
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: and was great, ran this sport for a long time,

870
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 2: but hasn't been anywhere close to this in twenty years.

871
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: That's what's cool about it, right you know, yeah.

872
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: They they haven't been anywhere close to this in twenty years.

873
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: So I mean, when the U is you, there's a

874
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: chance at this all one verse one hundred and sixteen

875
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: or whatever.

876
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: Yes, this was the LA Dodgers against the Pittsburgh Pie right,

877
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: which is way more a bigger gap Kentucky basketball against

878
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: pitton State basketball. I mean, it's completely different world.

879
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the.

880
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 2: It's the Steelers playing r m U Man right right, Yeah,

881
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: for for forget the Steelers against the Browns or something,

882
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: it's the Steelers against r MU and and two head coaches.

883
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: You know, Chryst of Ball is a Miami guy, grew

884
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: up a big fan of that program, won national championship

885
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: there as a player.

886
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: That's dream job, right.

887
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: Oh when he the great line that's been that's been

888
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: going around. And I want to make sure I get

889
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: this right because I put it down here in my

890
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: in my notes when christ of Ball got hired and

891
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 2: he did his press conference, you know what he said,

892
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: what his promise was to the Miami fan base and

893
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: I quote, this will consume my entire existence end quote.

894
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 3: Wow, Like.

895
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and brought he was he's a

896
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: he's a he's an all time player for that program.

897
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: Who was you know, was brought them back from from

898
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: the depths. They were the twelve seed, right, they were

899
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: the ten seed. But that's because the two g fives

900
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: that were eleven and twelve. But they were the last

901
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 2: team to get in.

902
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because Notre Dame would have went they would

903
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 3: not out.

904
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: Correct, they were the last team to get in because

905
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: JMU and two Lane had it via the the scenarios

906
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: of Conference champions. So yes, there was a real chance

907
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: that Miami was going to get left out. In fact,

908
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought they were going to they.

909
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: Not even have them.

910
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely could have you could have. I mean, you could

911
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: have absolutely made Miami beat Notre Dame at the beginning

912
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: of the season, which is so time breaking. But but

913
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: every other conversational piece, Notre Dame had the had the edge,

914
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: but Miami as they probably should have, because they won

915
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: even though it was like back in August, they still won.

916
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: And then obviously everyone knows Signetti Ei they're fifteen, and

917
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: oh could be sixteen, and oh this guy was at JMU.

918
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: You know this time a little two years.

919
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: Ago, Indiana p a his dad's the I UP legends.

920
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: I UP legend. You know, Nathan's got his I UP

921
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: shirt on today and here producing and so Matt. It

922
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: was up at eight and a half points to Indiana

923
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: at one point, now down to seven and a half.

924
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: But obviously watch both quarterbacks because Mendoza is not going

925
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: to be a Steeler, but he'll be the first overall pick.

926
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: And that's always a storyline. Carson.

927
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: He could be the he could play like Stroud and

928
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: still would be the first overall pick.

929
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: I think, yes, I think Mendoza could play horrible tonight

930
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: and still be the.

931
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: First unless he blew out a knee or something great. Yes, yeah,

932
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: uh Beck though he's the interesting one.

933
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: He could end up being QB two by the time

934
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 2: this is all said and done. He's another one. Like

935
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: when we were talking in the Dante More, a lot

936
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: of people are happy about that. Yeah, Ty Simpson, Trenidad Chamberliss,

937
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: but him too.

938
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that. Simpsons cemented as no.

939
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: And there's been times in the past where Carson Beck

940
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: has been a surefire mock draft first round pick.

941
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, his college crew, his college career, going into

942
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 3: At Georgia.

943
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: And what's wild is because he was a backup for

944
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: both of those. But he he could get a third

945
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: national championship ring tonight. He didn't play and it was St.

946
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: Georgia quarterback, but he could get a third national championship

947
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: ring tonight. Carson Beck could. So obviously a lot to

948
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: watch from an NFL eyeballs, just from a I think

949
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: this is a refreshing great Yes, Miami is not some

950
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: some If you're listing the greatest programs in college football history,

951
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: they're probably in the top ten. Yeah, you know, and

952
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: at one point they ran this sport, but it's been

953
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: a long time. It's refreshing. Old Miss versus Indiana would

954
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: have been the ultimate, Like, you know, neither's ever won

955
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: a national championship and all that, but this is about

956
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: as close as you can get. I'm really looking, really

957
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: looking forward to this one tonight.

958
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: Who would you pick with the spread?

959
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: I think Indiana wins, but Miami covers.

960
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 3: Do you think it's within a touchdown here? You don't

961
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: think a blowout?

962
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: No, But I'll tell you this, I.

963
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: Didn't think Indian will blow out any of these teams,

964
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 3: and they blow out everybody.

965
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: Same. Yeah, And if Miami can dominate in the trenches,

966
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: if they can out physical like they did against Ohio

967
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: State a couple of weeks ago.

968
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: That's their path the linemen. Yes, yeah, yeah, but I

969
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: know Indian has been really good in the trenches.

970
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Yeah for not having the quote unquote you know,

971
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: dogs like the four to five star town. Yeah, yeah,

972
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: they've been They've been unbelievable in the trenches. So that's

973
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: where really to watch. Uh, Miami's gonna have three first

974
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: round picks on both sides of the ball in the

975
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 2: trenches between Bain Messador and Mayaga. The tackle, I think

976
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: Messador is likely. It could be early second round, but

977
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: the other two could be top ten. Yeah, Indiana doesn't

978
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: have that, but they've got the quarterback, they've got the coaching,

979
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: and they just man they have They are a team personified.

980
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 2: They have a lot of fun.

981
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 3: They have some other guys that will get picked, yes,

982
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: but I don't know that anyone's like a round two guy, even.

983
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 2: Like they might. They might have Mendoza in the top fifty,

984
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: top sixty.

985
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm kind of from what I've looked at. They have

986
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: a tackle that may or may not come out. That's interesting.

987
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: They've a very undersized slot corner that I was listening

988
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: to Dan Brugal's podcast. They got verified. He's five to

989
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: eight in the quarter. He's actually listed at five eight

990
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: on the in the program, so they didn't even lie.

991
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: But he's a great player. But he's five eight in

992
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 3: a quarter.

993
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Ponds, Is that what you're talking about?

994
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and SAT's gonna get picked pretty high.

995
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: The wide receiver. Their linebacker Aidan Fisher will be drafted

996
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: to a one, but it is it is a tale

997
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: of two different programs, one looking to restore glory, one

998
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: looking to get to the top of the mountain for

999
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: the first time. And I think it'll be a lot

1000
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: of fun.

1001
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 3: I'm Psychah yeah, me too.

1002
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: Tomorrow on the program, Matt more Moving and shaking on

1003
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: the coaching front, will recap tonight's action.

1004
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: I can see another domino falling in the coaching world

1005
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: the next day or two.

1006
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: I think it's certainly, certainly possible. And maybe we'll get

1007
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: into the remaining four teams, why each one could win

1008
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, why each one won't win the Super Bowl.

1009
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: But we'll do all that more tomorrow. Thanks to Nathan

1010
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: for producing on the radio side, TV, Tyler V on

1011
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: the video side, keeping us handsome on YouTube, and for

1012
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson unwetsheeler. Take care, everybody. We will talk to

1013
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: you tomorrow. As always. You know where to find us.

1014
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