WEBVTT - Top Pro Golf Storylines for 2025 & TGL Preview 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:05.880 And when I find my. 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.319 Ball in a frid Egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Friday Friday, 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.360 Frida Egg Egg, Frida Egg bride Egg Lie, I'm about 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:13.280 ready to run off of. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:14.080 The hump course. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.720 Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.000 I am your host, Andy Johnson. Uh, welcome to the 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.960 new year. Welcome to twenty twenty five. I've got an 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:53.200 exciting episode. I'm joined by Gabby herse Egg, a staff 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.440 writer at The Athletic, to talk about twenty twenty five 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.800 in pro golf. And I'm also joined on the back 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:05.240 half with by Joseph LaMagna and PJ Clark, our producer 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.360 and Joseph one of our creators here at Fridagg Golf, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.800 to talk about TGL. That's barreling down. Just a quick 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.800 little housekeeping. Uh, this is a new year at this podcast. 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.600 We are going to be going to a one episode 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:26.200 per week cadence. So every Wednesday you will get a 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.120 new Fred Egg Golf episode. I will be your host, 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.800 and we will you know, we'll bring Garrett Joseph far 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:40.039 familiar faces, Tom Doak on regularly over the course of 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.120 the year, but the format will be a little bit different. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:48.800 We'll probably have, you know, one to two guests per podcast. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.720 There will be kind of different segments, and I will 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.640 be the the only host. Garrett will be working on 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.400 some projects of his own that we're excited to bring 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:04.080 to life that he will kind of kind of own 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.240 and we won't be sharing this podcast, so Garrett'll kind 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.760 of have his own house to live in and I'll 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.440 have my own house. We won't be roommates on this podcast. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:18.840 So I'm super excited about this podcast and TOY twenty 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.480 five will be with you every Wednesday and excited about 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.960 you know, some of the topics we've got dreamed up here. 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.120 So without further ado, I hope everybody had a great 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:35.040 holiday season. I hope everybody got to spend a great 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.639 time with family and friends. And welcome back to twenty 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.760 twenty five. In the Friday Golf Podcast, let's get to 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:54.040 Gabby Herzig. Gabby, welcome back, Happy New Year. Are you 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:56.799 a resolution person? 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.640 That's a great question, Andy, I sometimes am, and sometimes 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:07.000 I'm not. I last year, my New Year's resolution mainly 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:11.040 was to become a morning person, and it worked for 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.960 about the first three months of the year and we 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.799 taper it off back into my normal ways of being 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.880 a night ol. So that's kind of the farthest I 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:21.120 go with New Year's resolutions, is like little things like that. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.880 But yeah, not really a resolution person. What about you? 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:30.840 You know, I would say that I'm relatively unsuccessful. My 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.360 my biggest success in recent years is I just full 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:39.480 stop a full stopped soda. Yeah. I think I've had 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.640 like one or two sodas in the last two years. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:44.840 That's incredible. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.520 I just yeah, I just I just was like, I'm 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:51.280 done with this and I just ended it. So I 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.720 don't know if what I'm gonna do this year. I've 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.080 I think I might have broken a rib a couple 0:03:58.040 --> 0:03:58.720 of weeks ago. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.240 Oh no, And are you okay? 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:01.720 Yeah? 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:04.320 Yeah, I've been all right. It's just like a pain 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:10.160 in the ass because you can't do anything yeah important. Yeah, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.080 like you can't do like so you can't like deep 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.279 brief deep deeply breathe, which is crazy. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:18.960 Yeah, breathing, it's a good one. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.880 So anyways, walking a lot, and I've really enjoyed that. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.120 I've like gone for like our walks, but like you 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:31.600 can do stuff while you walk. You know, you can 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.080 listen like I've been listening to podcasts. You could have 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.360 phone calls. So I think that I think that's what 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.800 I'm going to do next year, is maybe incorporate some 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.160 work schedule into walks. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:44.920 I think that's a great idea. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:45.840 I love it. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.400 That might be that might be the new Year's resolution. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.080 I'm really jealous of the soda movement of yours though, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.120 because I have a huge sweet tooth and I would 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.800 never be able to give up my soda. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:59.000 Well, I just thought about, like the soda thing. It 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.080 just like when I thought ought about it, it was like, 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:06.240 I never feel good after I drink one. Okay, there's better. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.960 I like the caffeine of it, but there's better ways 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.680 to get caffeine, you know. I just have an espresso shot, right. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.400 And then I was like, if I'm gonna if I'm 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.880 gonna use the sugar, I'd rather like, like, there are 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:26.000 way better uses of sugar. Con totally like ice cream 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:32.280 cookies like these are far superior delivery methods of sugar. 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.719 If I'm in the sugar business. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:39.080 I promise I just eat all of it. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.839 It's I think that's a problem for almost all of us. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:46.640 Like I don't understand these people that have self control, 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:52.599 you know, No, I don't get it. So anyways, small step. 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.960 I looked at I looked at soda and just said, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:58.240 I'm done with this and it's worked out well. Like 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.359 no diet soda, no nothing, you know. I feel like 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.400 carbonated water is the other thing, like the like your 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:10.960 Lacroix Nick sees of the world. That helps a ton too, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.719 because sometimes you just need that. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.400 Just maybe I should get into that a little more. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.720 Maybe I'll maybe I'll start. I'm taking inspiration right now. Andy, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:19.839 I really appreciate that. 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.640 Yeah, yeah, all right. We I can't believe that it's 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.480 not even the turn of the new year. It's the 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.120 thirtieth when we're recording this and we have PGA Tour 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:30.760 Golf in like three days. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:31.760 No, it's crazy. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.680 It feels like this should be one week later than 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.840 it is. But we're going to start. We're starting the year, 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:43.960 so we've got it kicks off on January second. So 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.080 I wanted to do a little season preview kind of 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:53.359 Five things are our major championship format, but for the 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:59.000 season five Things we're watching. I will let you start here. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.640 What's the the first or the first thing that you're 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.320 you're you want to talk about with the twenty twenty 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:10.280 five PGA Tour. Actually we'll just call it men's golf season, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.920 because I've got one one that doesn't relate to the PGA. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.920 Tour, got it, I have one that doesn't relate to 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:17.480 men's golf. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.280 So okay, maybe how about twenty twenty five golf. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.720 Freak perfect, perfect, Okay, let's see where we should start. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:31.080 I am going to start with the PGA Tour PIF 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:36.360 deal and the incoming Trump administration and everything that could 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.120 come with that. Do you want me to elaborate or 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:41.240 would you like to respond? 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:46.200 I will just say that I purposely kept this off 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.120 because I figured i'd have it on right. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:50.240 I figured that too. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.880 I would love to hear what you're thinking about it. 0:07:55.480 --> 0:08:02.160 Yes, I am thinking that this deal is imminent. I 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.720 think that after Inauguration Day we are probably going to 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:12.920 hear talks ramp up a lot. I spoke to you 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.760 earlier this fall, Andy about my article on the election 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:22.160 and how it could impact the completion of the PJ 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:26.800 Tour PIFF deal, and it looks like everything that's unfolded 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.480 over the past three months, like all signs are pointing 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:34.520 to that hypothesis being true. And you know, we heard 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.400 even Roy McElroy say it in a press conference that 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.520 Trump could usher the steal along with the DOJ hurdle 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.880 in the way, and it looks like things are going 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.400 to get moving in twenty twenty five. And I don't 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.199 I don't know what it looks like. I think people 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.800 are We know now that the Department of Justice and 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:58.120 the Anti Trust negotiation was kind of this like holding 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.440 block that has really stalled this deal and any public 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:09.880 information surrounding the deal. But I think one giant mystery 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.679 that I don't know how this is going to be 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.040 figured out or where they are with it or anything, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.960 is like how this crossover between tours is going to work, 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.960 Like will live players be able to come back to 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.720 the PGA Tour? Will there be crossover in the other direction? 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.679 Is the OWGR going to be fixed? Like? There are 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.520 so many questions around this thing. But I do think 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.200 something that golf fans can be a little bit more 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.400 optimistic about is the actual like completion of a deal 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.600 with that Department of Justice hurdle kind of becoming less 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.720 of a thing with Trump in office. So it's super 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:49.200 interesting how politics and the White House has become like 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.200 a stake in pro golf. But and then that's something 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.400 I have always been fascinated about as a crossover between 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.240 sports and politics. So that's why I got into this 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.680 whole thing. But now I actually feel like things are 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:00.440 going to along. 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:05.280 So it seems like it's you know, it's a very 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.520 small percentage of the population, but it's a percentage of 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:14.000 the population that incoming President Trump clearly cares about his 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:19.680 golf because he's a big golfer, owns golf properties. But 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.280 he it seems like it's like a logical like win 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.120 on the board, kind of like first couple of weeks 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:31.720 of in office, like what I got done. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.200 I really really wouldn't be surprised. Like he played golf 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.400 with jam Onahan, he invited y'aser to the UFC fight, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.800 Like there are things happening. We can all see it. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.040 It's just a matter of time now, I think. 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.920 So I think like one of the things that I 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.720 wonder about is like, what if it's just a financial deal, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:57.160 And if it's just a financial deal, are we just 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:01.120 in the same spot and he does Live continue to 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.440 pick off players, Like is that is that going to 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:08.920 be a thing because like you know, like the other 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.679 aspect of this is Fox and the deal, and this 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.160 is one of my things, so we can just wrap 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.760 this all in here. I anticipate to talk Live PGA 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:22.520 Tour right out of the gates. But the the Live 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:29.120 and Fox deal like to me, like it's fascinating, Like 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:33.160 the rights with the PGA Tour and Golf Channel are 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:40.959 I think they're coming up fairly soon again one, I think, yeah, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.080 so it's not like that far in the future, Like 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:48.120 it's not like a arbitrage like twenty year right steal 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:53.240 right and this Fox thing, like if if that deal, 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.160 like to me, that's a big deal for Live, like 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:01.280 they might actually be have the product be viewable because 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.280 like nobody's going to the CW to watch golf, but 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.200 all of a sudden, if you're on Fox, like it 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.360 could be on f S two, FS one. I doubt 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.480 it's going to be on Fox. I don't think that's 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.840 where it's going to be. But like if you're on 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:22.559 FS one, you have like the ability to get a 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.839 casual sports fan. Their other shows are going to have 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:32.520 an interest in covering live golf because of like the 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.080 you know, hey, we've made an investment in this, We're 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.080 going to have our you know, daily talk shows cover it. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.400 So like, to me, like everything that's happened with Live, 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:48.559 with the new CEO, the Fox deal, that tells me 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:49.800 that Live's not going. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.960 Away, That's exactly what I was going to say. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.120 Yeah, and then you have this deal that's going to 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.920 that seems eminent, it seems like it's going to happen. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.800 But to me, it makes me feel like it's only 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.880 a financial deal and I could be wrong. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.680 No, I feel I feel like I feel like all 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.120 signs are kind of pointing to that in a way. 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.520 Like and when I heard about the Fox deal initially, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.679 I was still just like, is it really going to 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.719 get casual sports fans to watch it more? Because the 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:24.920 first four events of the year are happening in the 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.440 middle of the night in the US, right yeah, And 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.240 like so maybe it could be on Big Fox, but 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.560 no one's going to be awake to see it. So 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:40.000 it like clearly like there are long term plans still 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.000 being made for Live Golf, and like its leadership and 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:48.320 the broadcast schedule, Like player contracts, I think still have 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.120 a few years to run out. I feel like there 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.760 are still going to be two separate entities in pro golf, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.720 the PJ Tour and Live like for the next two 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:58.559 three years. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:02.800 Yeah, I think at a minimum. And who knows, like, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:05.880 you know, like Yaser might be. I think there was 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.880 a rumor that he was potentially investing in the European 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.240 Tour too, Like is this just like they they want 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.360 to have their hands in all of golf. They have 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.120 like you know, they want to have a seat at 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.880 the table. That seemed to be like the original intention 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.040 and goal of this. But in the meantime, you know, 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.640 I think it's easy to dunk on live. It's it's 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:31.880 fun to dunk on live. Like, but they do have 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:36.360 like they had in doing your review research, they had 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:42.240 some meaningful Sundays this year, in particular, like the tournament 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.480 that went opposite Pebble when Pebble was off on Sunday 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.640 because of the rain, Like they had a great leader 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.640 board and like an interesting tournament. And I think like 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.880 they do do a lot of stuff pretty pretty well. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:04.040 And and I think they have pushed golf broadcasts forward, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.560 So I do think like there are like the increase 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.000 of visibility can't be just like swept under the rug 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.080 with Live and you know, like I don't know the 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.560 issue there. Their issue is like it seems like players 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:20.440 go there and go worse. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.760 Yeah, that I think the like competitive nature of the 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.200 league is like there's a serious problem there. But what 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.200 I was going to say, what what came to mind 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.400 when you were just speaking was also like the media 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.360 rights argument. I feel like LIV has pushed the boundaries 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.640 a lot with that and what they're doing on the 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.920 Internet and on social media, like everything that Bryce and 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.120 d Schambeau has done, And this kind of connects to 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.600 one of my other things as well in the YouTube space, 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.520 is like that is not possible really for a PGA 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.720 Tour player. And now we have things like the Creator 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.960 Classic and the Creator Council, and there's like there's an 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:01.360 effort to work around the media rights agree that again 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.880 like expire in twenty thirty one with the TV contracts, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.360 And I don't think we would have had such a 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.600 serious effort if it weren't for Live, Like I really 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.880 don't think that would have happened at all, especially at 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.640 the pace that we're seeing now, Like, I still don't 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.560 think the PGA Tour is going to reach the level 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.560 of like openness in that sense that we ever will 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.280 want it to until maybe those contracts expire and there's 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.720 a renegotiation of the intellectual property. But that's another thing 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.320 that we have to give like huge props to at 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:30.160 least for the effort. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:34.120 I mean the TGL, which launches next week. Right, I 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.840 think it's like a pretty big deal. That's what the 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.880 second half of this podcast is about. 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:41.240 But oh nice, the. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.720 That wouldn't I Like, I was thinking about it this 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.680 morning when I was on a walk. That would not 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:53.360 have existed if it wasn't for Live, Like there's no 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.360 way that the PGA Tour of four years ago would 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.560 get on board with the TGL, and like Rory and 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.840 Tiger's financial interest in the TGL, like this would not 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.399 have existed, Like this would have been like, oh, we'll 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.880 we'll try and do it ourselves and completely on our 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.680 own and own one. Like the only reason that this 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.840 thing has gotten off the ground is because of Live, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.680 which is I I had this as another thing we'll 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.119 just kind of dive in here, and this is like 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.600 what you you brought up Bryson the YouTube stuff. Something 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.800 I'm fascinated about is the back half of the Ryder 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.639 Cup team. I think we know like some locks on 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.640 the Ryder Cup, Like we know Xander can't lay Scottie. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:47.600 Are our general locks Like you could go down the 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.320 owgr and get to five or six locks. My question 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.600 is what does the back half look like? And one 0:17:54.640 --> 0:18:01.320 of those people was Bryson. And if Bryson is off, well, 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.159 it depends on what happens this year. He's been so 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:09.439 up and down over the course. I think he's dedicated 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.280 to golf, So I think I think he's going to 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.800 have like a good, a great year. I think he's 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.040 going to be you know, last year was the best 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.480 year of his career. Yeah, probably, I think. I mean 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:22.760 he had some really. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.720 Good career major record at least. Yeah, And that's kind 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.800 of what's most important for Ryder Cup points. 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.080 But what's interesting is like the Bryson dynamic with the 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.280 US Ryder Cup team. 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:35.080 Oh yeah, it's not good, Like are you gonna. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.479 Try and bring the YouTube cameras in? Like what's the 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.240 content around it? Like, I just think like he's not 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:42.960 going to be a great chemistry fit. And I think 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.360 like one of the things like we could say this 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.720 or that about like the US team and does it matter, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.359 does it not? They've always had issues with chemistry. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:57.160 Yes, yeah, I will. They already like barred the Netflix 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.440 show from the team room, and there were all those 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:04.520 issues with in Italy. So imagine Bryceon rolls up with 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.399 his content team and they're like no, no, no, no, this 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:08.520 is gonna work. 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.560 And then there's he in a bad mood all week, like. 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:16.400 Yeah, did you see him in the showdown? He looked miserable. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.000 I don't think there was something going on there. 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:23.479 I don't think. I don't think anybody was really happy. 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:29.080 No, no, yeah, He's like I'm not doing this anymore. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:31.800 It's the whole point of the thing. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:37.240 I don't think anybody enjoyed like I think there. I 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:41.520 don't think. I don't think really anybody enjoyed Bryce's company there. 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:44.800 No. Yeah, that was a tough scene. That was a 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:45.359 tough scene. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.680 That was a weird, weird situation. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:52.920 I guess I don't know what to do with bitcoin, 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:53.760 but thank you. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.960 The I guess, Like you know, there was always like 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.800 this like undercurrent of Phil and Tiger through the years 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.560 of like they didn't they didn't really get along, right, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:12.120 They diametrically seem to see the world different ways. They 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:16.680 are all time great competitors, competitors, and now like three 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.959 years removed from live, is like very clear how different 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:25.240 they are, right, Oh yeah, But for like twenty years 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:28.400 we had this like you know, they're they're kind of friends, 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.640 but they aren't really, yes, And it feels like that's 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.800 the way like all the top players treat Bryson. Now, 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:40.600 it's like I don't think anybody really likes him, even Brooks, 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:45.200 who's like, you know, but they like they have to 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.480 deal with him because he is one of the best 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.240 players in the world and one of the one of 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.040 the most influential players in the world. Maybe, like I 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.800 think you could make an argument that he's like the 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.280 top three most influential people in golf. 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:00.840 I think so. I think I feel like he really 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.920 he really moves the needle. Like can we just talk 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.639 about for a second the series of him hitting balls 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:12.080 over his house and was it sixteen day journey or 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.440 how many days was it? I forget? But those videos 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.360 were getting like ten million views, every single one of them, 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.160 and like it was incredible. That's like that's the amount 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.359 of engagement across platforms. I don't hundreds of millions of 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.840 views and that's hard to get. Like, I think how 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.280 a niche our sport is. And he's like getting outside 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.399 not even just the golf bubble, but the sports bubble, 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:38.720 and I feel like, I think that's really cool and 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:42.399 it's really difficult to do. That's like I mean Tiger 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.159 and Charlie like getting those numbers at the PNC the 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.040 other week, like reminds me of that kind of thing. 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.760 It's like when you're when my friend who has watched 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.439 one golf tournament in their entire life, texts me a 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.040 link and I'm like, how did you find this? It's 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.200 because they're bursting out of that bubble that like we're 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:02.200 all trying to kind of figure out how that's consistently done. 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.760 I think if you think about like what's going on 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.679 in sports, this is a greater conversation, you know, like 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.879 ratings across sports for the most part, outside of the 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:17.800 NFL or down. One of the things is that the 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:23.080 distribution model is changing before our eyes. And distribution used 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:27.320 to be the great the thing that sports leagues had, 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:32.440 you know, like what their power is their distribution and 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:37.280 If you look at the PGA Tour's YouTube channel, which 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:40.760 is which has become a massive distribution source, is one 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:45.320 point five million subscribers. Bryson's is one point seven. He 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.600 has a more distribution on the probably the fastest growing 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:55.720 digital channel for golf. He has a bigger distribution footprint 0:22:55.760 --> 0:23:00.359 than the PGA Tour, And you know, like that's I 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:04.359 think like when you think about where live and you 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.280 brought you made this point all right. Where Live has 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:12.680 thrived has been the ability to allow people like Bryson 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:18.720 the opportunity to build distribution with access and the rights 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.200 deal that you've brought up multiple times in twenty thirty 0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:25.600 one greatly prohibit the ability for the PGA Tour and 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:30.840 their players to do similar things. It prohibits people like 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:35.320 us from doing really like anything on the grounds at 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:39.280 a PGA Tour site. But like when you look at 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.840 what it's doing to the PGA Tour, is that it 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:44.720 is making it less relevant. 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:49.560 Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean the thing with like 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.600 distribution now, and I think we actually spoke a bit 0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.600 about this a few months ago, is like there are 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.560 just it's not so much you're just turning on the 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.280 TV and being fed what the major networks or what 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:05.040 the major leagues want you to consume. Like the consumer 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.879 now of media or content or whatever you might be 0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.760 watching is like has all the power because you have 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:15.480