WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Heather Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>On December seventeenth, twenty thirteen, twenty year old Heather Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>headed out on the first day in Carolina Forest, South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>which is west of Myrtle Beach in Horry County. Heather

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in this area, which is for its beautiful beaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Her parents, Terry and Debbie Elvis, and her younger sister

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan described Heather as a kind, fun loving young woman

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<v Speaker 2>who had dreams of working in cosmetology. After graduating from

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<v Speaker 2>high school in twenty eleven, Heather was making her dreams happen.

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<v Speaker 2>She was working two jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Hostess of the Tilted Kilt in Myrtle Beach and at

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<v Speaker 2>the House of Blues in North Myrtle Beach. She was

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<v Speaker 2>also studying cosmetology. She had moved into an apartment in

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina Forest with a friend of hers named Brianna. Even

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<v Speaker 2>though the population was just over twenty three thousand people,

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<v Speaker 2>their apartment was located in a huge, busy subdivision. But

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<v Speaker 2>Heather's life had taken a pretty dark turn over the

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<v Speaker 2>past few months. Like a lot of young women at

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<v Speaker 2>that age, she had gotten into a relationship with a

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<v Speaker 2>man much older than her, and it had been dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>But Heather had ended that relationship. She was starting to

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<v Speaker 2>date again, and her friends and family said she seemed

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<v Speaker 2>more like herself. It seemed like life was finally getting

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<v Speaker 2>back to normal and Heather could go back to being

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<v Speaker 2>a happy, go lucky young woman building her life. But

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<v Speaker 2>something happened after Heather got home that night. She got

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<v Speaker 2>a phone call, and then she changed into her favorite outfit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she went out driving her green Dodge Intrepid.

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<v Speaker 2>After that, Heather vanished, where did she drive into in

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<v Speaker 2>the dark that night and what happened to Heather Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past seven years of making

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<v Speaker 2>On December nineteenth, Hory County Police respond to a report

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<v Speaker 2>of a suspicious abandoned vehicle, a green Dodge Intrepid parked

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<v Speaker 2>in the area of peach Tree Boat Landing near the water.

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<v Speaker 2>This was Heather's car. Peachtree Landing was about eight miles

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<v Speaker 2>away from Heather's apartment, so why would she have driven

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<v Speaker 2>there in the middle of the night. Police went to

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<v Speaker 2>Heather's parents' house at First, her dad told a local

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<v Speaker 2>news station that they thought the car may have been stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>but the car was fine. It was in good condition,

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<v Speaker 2>it had gased, nothing was broken or damaged. But when

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't reach Heather, they began to panic. Her family

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<v Speaker 2>insisted it would have been totally out of character for

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<v Speaker 2>her to run away. Things had been going well in

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<v Speaker 2>Heather's life and there was no way, they said, that

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<v Speaker 2>she would have disappeared voluntarily. So police immediately started looking

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<v Speaker 2>into Heather's personal life and her romantic relationships. They contacted

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<v Speaker 2>the man she had been on the date with that night,

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Schiraldi. Stephen told police that he picked Heather up

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<v Speaker 2>at ten pm. He said they drove around, hanging out

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at Christmas lights. Then, he said, because Heather

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<v Speaker 2>had told him she couldn't drive a stick shift, they

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<v Speaker 2>went to the parking lot at the Inlet Square Mall.

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<v Speaker 2>He let her get into the driver's seat of his

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<v Speaker 2>car and he showed her how to drive stick He

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<v Speaker 2>said they had fun driving around during that time. Heather

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<v Speaker 2>sent her father and her friend Brianna, pictures of her

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<v Speaker 2>driving the manual transmission, and she looks happy in those photos.

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<v Speaker 2>She's smiling, and her cell phone with its pink glitter cover,

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<v Speaker 2>is resting in her lap. After a fun evening, Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>told police he dropped Heather back home at one fifteen am.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he said he went home himself. All of Stephen's

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<v Speaker 2>phone records corroborated his version of events and his location,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was quickly cleared by law enforcement because police

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<v Speaker 2>found out that shortly after Heather got home, she got

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<v Speaker 2>another call from someone else, her ex boyfriend, Sidney Moore,

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<v Speaker 2>at one forty four am. They hung up, and Heather

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<v Speaker 2>met in June of twenty thirteen at the Tilted Kilt.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney was a thirty seven year old repair man who

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<v Speaker 2>worked at the restaurant. Now, Sidney was not only seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>years older than Heather, he was also married with three children.

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<v Speaker 2>But despite that, he and Heather struck up a flirtation.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon the relationship became sexual. Heather's friends and colleagues told

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<v Speaker 2>police they believed it was much more serious. Heather's roommate, Brianna,

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<v Speaker 2>who also worked at the Tilted Kilt at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>told twenty twenty that she believed Sidney and Heather were

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<v Speaker 2>in love. Her friends even said that Sidney might move

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida with his family and wanted Heather to come

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<v Speaker 2>along with them and be their nanny, even though at

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<v Speaker 2>the time the kids seemed to be pretty much old

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<v Speaker 2>enough to not need nanny's and Heather talked about her

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<v Speaker 2>new relationship both at work and on social media. She

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<v Speaker 2>sent a tweet in June of twenty thirteen saying that

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<v Speaker 2>she had a taste for men who were older. In

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<v Speaker 2>the weeks that followed, Heather continued to tweet about Sydney,

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<v Speaker 2>writing that she had a crush on the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>builds things at my job and joking about how she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to drag him into a mop closet and have

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<v Speaker 2>her away with him. Later, when the relationship became more volatile,

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<v Speaker 2>Heather's twitter took a darker turn. According to court documents,

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<v Speaker 2>she tweeted, baby did a bad, bad thing and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in way too deep, but watch me get in deeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Heather and Sydney didn't seem to be hiding things at work.

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<v Speaker 2>Police interviewed Heather's coworkers, who confirmed to them that Heather

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<v Speaker 2>and Sydney weren't exactly discreet people at the Tilted killed

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<v Speaker 2>in the kitchen said that Sidney would bring her coffee

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<v Speaker 2>and bagels at work as the relationship progressed. According to

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<v Speaker 2>court documents, Sydney seemed to struggle with juggling the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and it had gone on for months, but in October,

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney abruptly ended things with Heather after Tammy found out

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and Tammy apparently was enraged, which was odd

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<v Speaker 2>because later, in text messages with a friend, Tammy made

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<v Speaker 2>references to her and Sidney being in an open relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and to her having a boyfriend. Sexually explicit texts between

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy and that boyfriend were shown later in court. To

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<v Speaker 2>her friend, Tammy said that she and Sidney had grown

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<v Speaker 2>apart in the two to three years before he started

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<v Speaker 2>his relationship with Heather, and when you talk about what

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<v Speaker 2>was going on between Heather and Sydney, it depends on

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<v Speaker 2>who you ask. Heather's friends and co workers thought that

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<v Speaker 2>she and Sidney were in a serious relationship, but Tammy

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<v Speaker 2>and Sidney would later say that Heather and Sydney just

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<v Speaker 2>had a brief sexual affair a few hookups that were

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<v Speaker 2>confined mostly to September of twenty thirteen. After Tammy found

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<v Speaker 2>out about Heather, Brianna said that Tammy forced Sydney to

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<v Speaker 2>call Heather and tell her that they were done, and

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<v Speaker 2>she did this while Tammy was on the line. During

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation, Sydney said that Heather was quote nothing to me,

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<v Speaker 2>just someone who spread your legs end quote. Brianna said

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation completely devastated Heather, but it didn't stop there.

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy started sending Heather very graphic shots of her and

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney in sexual situations, and according to what Brianna told police,

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy threatened to get Heather fired from her job. Brianna

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<v Speaker 2>said that Heather was scared of Tammy, but she told

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<v Speaker 2>police that she didn't believe that Heather was scared at

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<v Speaker 2>all of Sidney. A big part of this case is

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship between Tammy and Sydney, because again, everything happened

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<v Speaker 2>behind closed doors and between Heather's friends and family, and

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<v Speaker 2>what Tammy and Sidney told law enforcement, there are several

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<v Speaker 2>very different accounts of what happened. Sidney claimed in court

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<v Speaker 2>that after Tammy found out about the relationship with Heather,

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<v Speaker 2>that Tammy insisted that Sidney in things, and that Tammy

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<v Speaker 2>had put conditions on him if they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay together for one thing, as Tammy texted a friend,

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<v Speaker 2>she would be allowed to live as a single woman,

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<v Speaker 2>basically to sleep with whomever she wanted with zero consequences

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<v Speaker 2>for a year, and she was going to keep Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>handcuffed to the bed every night. She also took his phone,

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<v Speaker 2>changed the password, and went everywhere with him. Sidney told

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement that he agreed to those conditions and also

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<v Speaker 2>had Tammy's name tattooed above his crotch, but that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>enough because Tammy kept reaching out to Heather. There is

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<v Speaker 2>a string of text that she sent Heather where she

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<v Speaker 2>talks about Heather meeting the missus, et cetera. On November first,

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<v Speaker 2>Heather finally responded. Tammy had texted Heather to say, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, Dad no longer has his phone, meaning Sidney.

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<v Speaker 2>Heather texted back a period Tammy called the Tilted Kilt

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<v Speaker 2>and told them that Sidney would stop preparing their equipment

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<v Speaker 2>if Heather was still employed by the restaurant. One day,

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<v Speaker 2>Heather was actually sent home because Tammy called multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney reached out to Heather again, saying that Tammy wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>mad about him having the affair, since he said she

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<v Speaker 2>also had a boyfriend. Sidney said Tammy was mad about

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<v Speaker 2>him lying about the affair. Heather texted back to basically

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<v Speaker 2>say she was done. She just wanted Tammy to stop

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<v Speaker 2>calling the restaurant, but things continued to escalate. On November fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>Heather retweeted a joke by Daniel Tosh. It read, hey

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<v Speaker 2>married fellas. You can either cheat on your wife or

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<v Speaker 2>murder her, never both. That's when you get caught. But

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<v Speaker 2>other than a few barbed social media references, things seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to be finally dying down. Heather and Sidney were not

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<v Speaker 2>in touch. Tammy had stopped texting, and Sidney, Tammy, and

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<v Speaker 2>their children left for a Disney World trip on November nineteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>They were gone until December eleventh. Meanwhile, Heather seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>be moving on with her life. Brianna told police and

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<v Speaker 2>Lay twenty twenty that Heather was going to church with

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<v Speaker 2>her and that she had agreed to put Sydney behind

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<v Speaker 2>her and move on with her life. Heather had gotten

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<v Speaker 2>a new job at a beauty parlor that would start

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<v Speaker 2>right around Christmas. She was acting more like her old self,

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<v Speaker 2>family and friends said, and enjoying dating new people. But

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<v Speaker 2>it turned out that Heather might have been hiding something because,

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<v Speaker 2>according to court documents, Heather believed that she was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Heather Elvis pregnant? According to court documents, she may

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<v Speaker 2>have believed that she was. She had gained weight quickly and,

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<v Speaker 2>according to her co workers, gone up three broad up

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<v Speaker 2>sizes in her uniform in a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Her manager at the Tilted Kilt testified that Heather thought

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<v Speaker 2>she might be pregnant by Sidney and had taken a

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<v Speaker 2>pregnancy test, but apparently the test came back with an

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<v Speaker 2>inconclusive result. After Heather went missing, police talked to Sidney Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he had not talked to Heather since

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<v Speaker 2>they broke up in October, but Brianna was insistent. She

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<v Speaker 2>had been out of town in Florida, but she said

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<v Speaker 2>when Heather called her that night, she was hysterical. Heather

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<v Speaker 2>called Brianna in a panic at around one forty four

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<v Speaker 2>am to tell her that Sidney called and that he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see her. He said that he was sorry

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<v Speaker 2>for everything and that he was leaving his wife. Brianna

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<v Speaker 2>said that Heather was crying and hysterical, and that they

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<v Speaker 2>talked for a couple of minutes and that at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the phone conversation, she said she did not

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<v Speaker 2>believe that Heather was going to go out and meet Sydney,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seems that she did. At around the same

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<v Speaker 2>time as Heather was being dropped off at home by

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<v Speaker 2>her date, Stephen, Sydney was seen on video buying a

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<v Speaker 2>pregnancy test at Walmart. The surveillance video showed Sydney with

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy in his truck near a Kangar Thru Express gas

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<v Speaker 2>station at one thirty three am. Video from the Kangaroo

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<v Speaker 2>Express showed Sydney leaving his truck and walking over to

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<v Speaker 2>a payphone. Police were able to show through phone records

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<v Speaker 2>that from that payphone, Sidney called Heather and that the

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<v Speaker 2>call lasted four minutes and fifty seconds. But later, when

0:15:03.961 --> 0:15:07.361
<v Speaker 2>police interviewed him, Stephen said he hadn't spoken to Heather

0:15:07.481 --> 0:15:11.161
<v Speaker 2>in several weeks since their relationship ended. Later, though, he

0:15:11.241 --> 0:15:13.281
<v Speaker 2>admitted that he had spoken to Heather the day she

0:15:13.321 --> 0:15:17.121
<v Speaker 2>disappeared for the first time in six weeks. Sydney claimed

0:15:17.161 --> 0:15:19.761
<v Speaker 2>that he called Heather to tell her to leave him alone.

0:15:23.841 --> 0:15:28.041
<v Speaker 2>So what happened after Heather hung up the phone? Heather's

0:15:28.081 --> 0:15:31.601
<v Speaker 2>phone location data provided some clues. The data showed that

0:15:31.681 --> 0:15:34.201
<v Speaker 2>Heather's cell phone left her apartment at two thirty one

0:15:34.241 --> 0:15:38.241
<v Speaker 2>am and arrived near Longbeard's Bar at two forty two am.

0:15:38.881 --> 0:15:41.881
<v Speaker 2>Then there were nine phone calls made from Heather's phone

0:15:41.921 --> 0:15:45.081
<v Speaker 2>to the Kangaroo Express payphone, the same phone that Sidney

0:15:45.081 --> 0:15:48.921
<v Speaker 2>had called her from. Location data from Sydney and Tammy's

0:15:48.961 --> 0:15:52.361
<v Speaker 2>phone showed that they went home during this time. The

0:15:52.441 --> 0:15:56.361
<v Speaker 2>data shows that after these nine calls, Heather's phone and

0:15:56.481 --> 0:16:00.561
<v Speaker 2>presumably Heather, returned to her apartment. Two more calls were

0:16:00.601 --> 0:16:03.201
<v Speaker 2>made from Heather's phone at three sixteen am and again

0:16:03.241 --> 0:16:06.881
<v Speaker 2>at three seventeen am. The first call to Sidney's phone

0:16:06.921 --> 0:16:09.881
<v Speaker 2>went to voicemail. The second call lasted a little over

0:16:09.921 --> 0:16:14.201
<v Speaker 2>four minutes after that call. Location data from Heather's phone

0:16:14.241 --> 0:16:17.361
<v Speaker 2>shows her traveling to Peachtree Landing, where her car was found.

0:16:17.841 --> 0:16:20.281
<v Speaker 2>Then there were four more calls made to Sydney's phone

0:16:20.321 --> 0:16:23.681
<v Speaker 2>between three thirty eight and three forty one am. All

0:16:23.721 --> 0:16:27.081
<v Speaker 2>of those calls went straight to voicemail. But after the

0:16:27.121 --> 0:16:30.521
<v Speaker 2>three forty one am call, there was no more activity

0:16:30.601 --> 0:16:34.881
<v Speaker 2>from Heather's phone. But at four thirty seven am suddenly

0:16:34.921 --> 0:16:38.201
<v Speaker 2>there was something else a text from Sydney's phone for

0:16:38.281 --> 0:16:42.201
<v Speaker 2>the first time in weeks. Tammy had had Sidney's phone

0:16:42.241 --> 0:16:46.481
<v Speaker 2>in her possession since November second, But at four thirty

0:16:46.521 --> 0:16:49.841
<v Speaker 2>seven am, Tammy texted Sydney's mom and he texted back.

0:16:50.481 --> 0:16:53.081
<v Speaker 2>She asked him if he had remembered the potstickers and

0:16:53.121 --> 0:17:00.161
<v Speaker 2>orange juice. He texted back, yes, ma'am. Just a day

0:17:00.201 --> 0:17:03.721
<v Speaker 2>after Heather was reported missing, on December twentieth, police went

0:17:03.761 --> 0:17:07.041
<v Speaker 2>to Tammy and Sydney's home. They found a surveillance system

0:17:07.041 --> 0:17:10.201
<v Speaker 2>that Tammy told them was not functional, and then, according

0:17:10.241 --> 0:17:13.561
<v Speaker 2>to court documents, she actually bought a new surveillance system

0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.160
<v Speaker 2>that next day. Police also found a bag of cement,

0:17:17.481 --> 0:17:20.360
<v Speaker 2>a spent shotgun shell, and a bottle of cleaning fluid

0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.120
<v Speaker 2>near park camper. Sydney told police that he and Heather

0:17:24.241 --> 0:17:26.960
<v Speaker 2>began their affair in September of twenty thirteen, and that

0:17:27.001 --> 0:17:30.840
<v Speaker 2>it had been brief, but Heather's social media references to

0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:36.080
<v Speaker 2>her relationship with Sydney started months before that. Police followed

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.521
<v Speaker 2>that social media trail. They found references to the breakup

0:17:39.561 --> 0:17:42.681
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter, where Heather had written once upon a time,

0:17:42.721 --> 0:17:45.241
<v Speaker 2>an angel and a death fell in love. It did

0:17:45.281 --> 0:17:49.721
<v Speaker 2>not end well. Police were suspicious of Sidney Moore, but

0:17:49.761 --> 0:17:52.921
<v Speaker 2>when they brought him and Tammy in for questioning, both

0:17:52.961 --> 0:17:56.001
<v Speaker 2>of them denied having anything to do with Heather's disappearance,

0:17:56.521 --> 0:17:59.881
<v Speaker 2>and the police had no body and no physical evidence.

0:18:01.361 --> 0:18:05.561
<v Speaker 2>Police did make two arrests. On January twenty eighth, twenty fourteen,

0:18:05.721 --> 0:18:08.961
<v Speaker 2>two people were arrested in charge with obstruction of justice

0:18:09.161 --> 0:18:12.441
<v Speaker 2>after police claimed that they had posted false information about

0:18:12.521 --> 0:18:16.881
<v Speaker 2>Heather's disappearance on social media. Sadly, they were red herrings.

0:18:17.721 --> 0:18:21.321
<v Speaker 2>Investigators had wasted time being diverted from the case when

0:18:21.321 --> 0:18:26.521
<v Speaker 2>they looked into these posts. As the investigation continued, it

0:18:26.561 --> 0:18:29.481
<v Speaker 2>seemed like the whole town was talking about Heather's disappearance.

0:18:30.121 --> 0:18:32.881
<v Speaker 2>Sydney claimed that he and his family had received death

0:18:32.921 --> 0:18:36.601
<v Speaker 2>threats because of the rumors. Not only that, he claimed

0:18:36.641 --> 0:18:39.721
<v Speaker 2>that people had killed and mutilated rabbits and ducks that

0:18:39.761 --> 0:18:43.041
<v Speaker 2>his family kept as outdoor pets. He told police that

0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.401
<v Speaker 2>people had fied tired guns at him while he was driving,

0:18:46.041 --> 0:18:49.881
<v Speaker 2>but Georgetown County Deputy sheriffs would later claim they found

0:18:49.881 --> 0:18:54.321
<v Speaker 2>no evidence that Sidney's truck had been hit. On February

0:18:54.321 --> 0:18:57.721
<v Speaker 2>twenty first, police executed a search warrant on Sydney and

0:18:57.761 --> 0:19:02.441
<v Speaker 2>Tammy's property near South Carolina Highway eight fourteen, Sydney and

0:19:02.481 --> 0:19:06.641
<v Speaker 2>Tammy were arrested. They were charged with murder, kidnapping, obstruction

0:19:06.681 --> 0:19:10.321
<v Speaker 2>of justice, and in decent exposure. This related to the

0:19:10.361 --> 0:19:13.400
<v Speaker 2>sexually explicit content that they had taken of themselves in

0:19:13.441 --> 0:19:18.641
<v Speaker 2>public places. Police interviewed Tammy, and the detective who questioned

0:19:18.641 --> 0:19:22.521
<v Speaker 2>Tammy told her that Sidney's relationship with Heather was more

0:19:22.521 --> 0:19:26.281
<v Speaker 2>involved than just a brief sexual affair, but Tammy told

0:19:26.321 --> 0:19:29.761
<v Speaker 2>police that she had an open marriage. She said that

0:19:29.801 --> 0:19:31.640
<v Speaker 2>she could care less if he had sex with one

0:19:31.721 --> 0:19:35.360
<v Speaker 2>hundred people. She also said I was with him in

0:19:35.441 --> 0:19:38.481
<v Speaker 2>the truck all night. She said that on the night

0:19:38.521 --> 0:19:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that Heather disappeared, that she and Sidney had sex in

0:19:41.961 --> 0:19:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the truck. She told the detective questioning her the pregnancy

0:19:46.121 --> 0:19:48.721
<v Speaker 2>test that Sidney was seen on camera buying had been

0:19:48.761 --> 0:19:51.201
<v Speaker 2>for her. She said they had been trying to get

0:19:51.201 --> 0:19:54.721
<v Speaker 2>pregnant for several months and that over that time, Sidney

0:19:54.761 --> 0:19:58.041
<v Speaker 2>told detectives he had bought several pregnancy tests and that

0:19:58.121 --> 0:20:01.761
<v Speaker 2>all of them had come back negative. Later, while incarcerated,

0:20:01.921 --> 0:20:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Tammy told prison staff that she was pregnant, She was

0:20:04.961 --> 0:20:08.121
<v Speaker 2>advised of dietary needs and to take prenatal vitamins, which

0:20:08.161 --> 0:20:11.561
<v Speaker 2>she refused to take. Medical records obtained through a foury

0:20:11.641 --> 0:20:15.360
<v Speaker 2>request state that quote inmate was advised repeatedly of the

0:20:15.401 --> 0:20:18.881
<v Speaker 2>need for confirmation of pregnancy for need for prenatal care,

0:20:19.601 --> 0:20:22.641
<v Speaker 2>but Tammy stated prenatal vitamins had caused her to miscarry

0:20:22.681 --> 0:20:27.080
<v Speaker 2>her first baby, so she did not want to take them. Later,

0:20:27.241 --> 0:20:31.201
<v Speaker 2>Tammy's mother said publicly that Tammy had had a miscarriage

0:20:31.321 --> 0:20:43.041
<v Speaker 2>while in jail. When the detective questioning her asked about

0:20:43.041 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the phone call made to Heather the night that Heather disappeared,

0:20:46.481 --> 0:20:49.281
<v Speaker 2>she said she'd heard phone calls made to Sydney's phone

0:20:49.281 --> 0:20:52.681
<v Speaker 2>from Heather, but she said she didn't see or know

0:20:52.881 --> 0:20:57.680
<v Speaker 2>about Sidney contacting Heather. Both Sydney and Tammy worked odd hours,

0:20:57.801 --> 0:21:02.161
<v Speaker 2>mostly night shifts. They homeschooled their three children. Tammy's sister,

0:21:02.281 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Ashley Cayson, who lived in a house next door to

0:21:04.881 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Sidney and Tammy with her and Tamy's parents, told police

0:21:08.481 --> 0:21:11.201
<v Speaker 2>she babysat the children on the night that Heather disappeared.

0:21:12.001 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Ashley later testified in Tammy's defense and as part of that,

0:21:15.241 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 2>she challenged Sidney's story about the tattoo he had gotten.

0:21:18.801 --> 0:21:21.361
<v Speaker 2>She said that Tammy had not forced Sidney to get

0:21:21.361 --> 0:21:24.441
<v Speaker 2>that tattoo. She said, in fact, Sidney had had that

0:21:24.481 --> 0:21:28.721
<v Speaker 2>tattoo since January of twenty twelve. Ashley said that Tammy

0:21:28.801 --> 0:21:32.120
<v Speaker 2>and Sydney used the handcuffs for sexual role play, that

0:21:32.201 --> 0:21:35.121
<v Speaker 2>he was not handcuffed against his will as he claimed.

0:21:35.921 --> 0:21:38.481
<v Speaker 2>Tammy also told police they had a sleigh bed, so

0:21:38.521 --> 0:21:42.121
<v Speaker 2>it would have been impossible for her to handcuff Sidney.

0:21:42.161 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 2>On the night Heather disappeared, Ashley said that the kids

0:21:45.401 --> 0:21:48.761
<v Speaker 2>were over at her place until approximately three am, and

0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>then Tammy had texted her at three ten am to

0:21:52.001 --> 0:21:54.721
<v Speaker 2>say she and Sidney were home. At that point, the

0:21:54.801 --> 0:21:58.361
<v Speaker 2>kids walked back home. Tammy told police, yes, she wasn't

0:21:58.361 --> 0:22:00.721
<v Speaker 2>a rage when she found out about the affair, but

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.121
<v Speaker 2>she really minimized the fallout to her marriage. She said

0:22:04.161 --> 0:22:06.241
<v Speaker 2>she and Sydney got over it in a few days.

0:22:06.561 --> 0:22:08.761
<v Speaker 2>She said they had healed their marriage during that trip

0:22:08.801 --> 0:22:12.241
<v Speaker 2>to Disneyland. She said she and Sidney got home at

0:22:12.241 --> 0:22:15.001
<v Speaker 2>around three ten am. That would have been about the

0:22:15.041 --> 0:22:17.241
<v Speaker 2>time that she texted her sister to say the kids

0:22:17.241 --> 0:22:21.961
<v Speaker 2>could walk home. Police asked Sydney and Tammy if they'd

0:22:21.961 --> 0:22:25.120
<v Speaker 2>been anywhere near peach Tree Landing where Heather's car was found.

0:22:25.521 --> 0:22:29.441
<v Speaker 2>They both said no. Police had footage from two surveillance

0:22:29.481 --> 0:22:32.840
<v Speaker 2>systems on a road between Tammy and Sydney's residence and

0:22:32.921 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the Peachtree Landing where Heather's car was found. These were

0:22:36.001 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 2>about a five minute drive apart. A dark colored truck

0:22:39.881 --> 0:22:43.120
<v Speaker 2>was seen on camera heading toward Peachtree Landing at approximately

0:22:43.121 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 2>three forty five. Then nine minutes later, the dark colored

0:22:47.201 --> 0:22:51.681
<v Speaker 2>truck appeared on camera going back the same way. A

0:22:51.801 --> 0:22:55.481
<v Speaker 2>Hoary County grand jury indicted Sydney and Tammy for kidnapping

0:22:55.721 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and for conspiracy kidnap on December eighteenth, twenty thirteen. They

0:23:01.001 --> 0:23:05.881
<v Speaker 2>would be tried separately. At trial, prosecutors called in someone

0:23:06.001 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 2>who was an expert on cars. The state found a

0:23:08.921 --> 0:23:12.961
<v Speaker 2>forensic video analyst, Grant Fredericks, to assist them in identifying

0:23:12.961 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 2>that truck scene on video. He did something called headlights

0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:20.681
<v Speaker 2>spread pattern analysis. He said in his opinion, the truck

0:23:20.761 --> 0:23:24.561
<v Speaker 2>in the video footage was Tammy and Sydney's new blackboard

0:23:24.641 --> 0:23:28.120
<v Speaker 2>f one point fifty Before the trial began, both Tammy

0:23:28.121 --> 0:23:31.201
<v Speaker 2>and Sydney tried to get that expert testimony about the

0:23:31.241 --> 0:23:34.961
<v Speaker 2>identity of the vehicle excluded, but the evidence was allowed.

0:23:35.001 --> 0:23:39.241
<v Speaker 2>In Shortly after the arrest, a judge issued a gag

0:23:39.321 --> 0:23:43.561
<v Speaker 2>order on all participants of this case. Later, investigators announced

0:23:43.561 --> 0:23:46.641
<v Speaker 2>they were filing additional charges related to what they called

0:23:46.921 --> 0:23:50.761
<v Speaker 2>financial discrepancies, filed with the state of South Carolina. Later

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 2>it came out what they were talking about was that

0:23:52.881 --> 0:23:56.761
<v Speaker 2>the Moorers were charged with medicaid fraud. The investigators said

0:23:56.801 --> 0:24:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Tammy and Sydney had failed to disclose over ten thousand

0:24:00.201 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 2>dollars in income from their business and alleged they had

0:24:03.201 --> 0:24:11.761
<v Speaker 2>fraudulently received benefits. This case is very unusual because on

0:24:11.801 --> 0:24:14.361
<v Speaker 2>the one hand, you have the gag order from the judge,

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.561
<v Speaker 2>but in the absence of any real information coming out

0:24:17.601 --> 0:24:20.481
<v Speaker 2>about the case, social media stepped in to fill the void,

0:24:21.121 --> 0:24:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and Tammy was not being silent. She and Sidney posted

0:24:24.881 --> 0:24:28.561
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook and other media sites. Tammy called Heather a

0:24:28.601 --> 0:24:32.881
<v Speaker 2>whore and a stalker. She said the police had framed them.

0:24:33.641 --> 0:24:38.881
<v Speaker 2>Tammy made posts on Facebook addressing Heather's disappearance. One read quote, well,

0:24:39.241 --> 0:24:41.721
<v Speaker 2>Sidney cheated on me. In the months of September October

0:24:41.721 --> 0:24:44.761
<v Speaker 2>with a psycho whore who has since gone missing. I

0:24:44.761 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>could care less what he screwed around with, but the

0:24:47.201 --> 0:24:50.721
<v Speaker 2>fact that this jerk is stalking my family is unacceptable.

0:24:51.241 --> 0:24:56.281
<v Speaker 2>End quote. Then nothing happened for a long time, at

0:24:56.361 --> 0:25:07.441
<v Speaker 2>least on the surface. In early twenty fifteen, Sidney and

0:25:07.481 --> 0:25:10.961
<v Speaker 2>Tammy were finally able to bond out from jail. They

0:25:11.001 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 2>had to follow bail conditions, including GPS monitoring and an

0:25:14.161 --> 0:25:17.001
<v Speaker 2>agreement to stay away from Heather's family and to not

0:25:17.121 --> 0:25:20.761
<v Speaker 2>mention them on social media. Sydney and Tammy claimed that

0:25:20.881 --> 0:25:23.201
<v Speaker 2>during this long way and due to the publicity of

0:25:23.201 --> 0:25:26.321
<v Speaker 2>the case, they were unable to find work, so they

0:25:26.361 --> 0:25:28.681
<v Speaker 2>asked the court to allow them to move to Florida.

0:25:29.281 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Sidney had found a job there, and the judge allowed it.

0:25:32.881 --> 0:25:38.120
<v Speaker 2>This outraged Heather's family. Prosecutors said that they did not

0:25:38.281 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 2>have enough evidence to go forward with the murder charges

0:25:40.881 --> 0:25:44.041
<v Speaker 2>against Tammy and Sydney, so in March thousand, six sixteen,

0:25:44.361 --> 0:25:47.521
<v Speaker 2>it was announced they were going to be dropped without prejudice,

0:25:47.881 --> 0:25:51.201
<v Speaker 2>meaning that they could be refiled later. Then in March

0:25:51.201 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>of twenty sixteen, there was another announcement the prosecutors were

0:25:55.041 --> 0:25:58.321
<v Speaker 2>dropping the charges against Tammy and Sydney for murder in

0:25:58.401 --> 0:26:02.721
<v Speaker 2>decent exposure and obstruction. The obstruction charge related to Sidney

0:26:02.721 --> 0:26:05.321
<v Speaker 2>telling police he had not called Heather, when in fact

0:26:05.401 --> 0:26:08.601
<v Speaker 2>he later admitted that he had called her on that payphone.

0:26:08.641 --> 0:26:12.081
<v Speaker 2>Heather's family said publicly they were disappointed, but that they

0:26:12.161 --> 0:26:17.961
<v Speaker 2>understood the prosecutor's decision. The prosecutors had a strong circumstantial case,

0:26:18.001 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 2>and they believed they had a strong motive, but they

0:26:20.641 --> 0:26:24.001
<v Speaker 2>still had no body in no physical evidence. What they

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:27.481
<v Speaker 2>had was Heather's phone records. The phone records that showed

0:26:27.481 --> 0:26:30.521
<v Speaker 2>that after she hung up with Brianna, her phone pinged

0:26:30.521 --> 0:26:33.921
<v Speaker 2>at two thirty am. Her device moved to Longbeard's Bar

0:26:33.961 --> 0:26:37.041
<v Speaker 2>and Grill, and then a few miles away, then back

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:41.001
<v Speaker 2>to Longbeards before calling Sydney's phone, then going back to

0:26:41.041 --> 0:26:44.681
<v Speaker 2>her apartment, making another call to Sydney's phone, the one

0:26:44.721 --> 0:26:49.001
<v Speaker 2>that was answered and lasted four minutes. At three thirty seven,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.161
<v Speaker 2>the phone was taken to Peachtree Landing and after that

0:26:52.721 --> 0:26:55.561
<v Speaker 2>DADA showed that the last place the phone was was

0:26:55.601 --> 0:27:00.561
<v Speaker 2>near the Wacamaw National Wildlife Refuge and again Sydney's cell

0:27:00.641 --> 0:27:03.641
<v Speaker 2>records showed no use between November tewod when Tammy took

0:27:03.641 --> 0:27:07.761
<v Speaker 2>his phone two December eighteenth, at three thirty seven am,

0:27:08.041 --> 0:27:11.201
<v Speaker 2>after Tammy sent him a text asking for podstickers and

0:27:11.241 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 2>orange juice, and he replied yes, ma'am. Was he really

0:27:15.481 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>talking about potstickers or was this some kind of code

0:27:18.641 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>between Sydney and Tammy? Also, was Heather using her device

0:27:22.641 --> 0:27:25.481
<v Speaker 2>that whole night or was her car taken to the

0:27:25.521 --> 0:27:29.641
<v Speaker 2>location by Peachtree Landing and her last location stage? Somehow,

0:27:31.601 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 2>police had Tammy's search records from her computer in her phone.

0:27:35.521 --> 0:27:38.001
<v Speaker 2>There were several searches that showed up in the case file.

0:27:38.481 --> 0:27:41.201
<v Speaker 2>One search was how do I change the date of

0:27:41.241 --> 0:27:45.561
<v Speaker 2>a post on my timeline? Police had texts that Tammy

0:27:45.601 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 2>had sent to a friend describing her discovery of the affair.

0:27:48.721 --> 0:27:51.001
<v Speaker 2>On December sixth, she texted the friend to say that

0:27:51.041 --> 0:27:54.441
<v Speaker 2>there was no love left for Sydney, that she hated him.

0:27:54.881 --> 0:27:57.721
<v Speaker 2>She wrote, quote, now he has to say chane to

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.241
<v Speaker 2>the bed until further notice. Why I live my life

0:28:00.281 --> 0:28:02.481
<v Speaker 2>as a single woman. It's all good. I hope that

0:28:02.521 --> 0:28:04.881
<v Speaker 2>things will be okay after I enjoy my single year

0:28:05.041 --> 0:28:08.561
<v Speaker 2>end quote. During this time, she also sexted guys from

0:28:08.641 --> 0:28:12.201
<v Speaker 2>Sydney's phone and did internet searches, including the beach, South

0:28:12.201 --> 0:28:17.801
<v Speaker 2>Carolina and full moon phases. December seventeenth was a full moon.

0:28:19.281 --> 0:28:23.201
<v Speaker 2>Sidney's trial started in June of twenty sixteen. He was

0:28:23.281 --> 0:28:26.481
<v Speaker 2>charged with kidnapping. In court, there was a ton of

0:28:26.481 --> 0:28:29.441
<v Speaker 2>direct evidence about the affair, but not a lot of

0:28:29.441 --> 0:28:32.321
<v Speaker 2>evidence about exactly what went down on the night when

0:28:32.321 --> 0:28:36.121
<v Speaker 2>Heather went missing. They did have video records, but these

0:28:36.161 --> 0:28:40.241
<v Speaker 2>were controversial. Heather's roommate and friend, Brianna, talked at length

0:28:40.241 --> 0:28:42.681
<v Speaker 2>about the conversation she had with Heather on the night

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<v Speaker 2>she went missing, but the defense also brought up Heather's

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<v Speaker 2>alleged family problems and some other issues with an allegedly

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<v Speaker 2>abusive ex boyfriend, but the prosecution stated the ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>in Heather had not been in touch in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>The jury debated for hours and in the end they

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<v Speaker 2>could not reach a verdict, so the judge declared a mistrial.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney went on trial again in twenty eighteen. This time

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<v Speaker 2>he was charged with obstruction justice and conspiracy kidnap, but

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<v Speaker 2>again they had a largely circumstantial case. They knew that

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy was angry, and that on the night Heather disappeared,

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<v Speaker 2>that he made a call to Heather's phone. There was

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<v Speaker 2>one other witness who had potentially damaging information about Sidney.

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy Moore's cousin, Donald di Marino, testified at Sidney's retrial

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<v Speaker 2>that he was at a cookout where Tammy and Sidney

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<v Speaker 2>were hanging out. He said that Sidney showed him a

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<v Speaker 2>photo of Heather on his phone, and in that picture,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald testified Heather appeared to be incapacitated, like she couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>walk or talk. He testified that he did not expect

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<v Speaker 2>to see or for anyone to see Heather again after

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<v Speaker 2>seeing that picture. He said he had been so upset

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<v Speaker 2>by the pictures that he had left the party afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>It was later reported that in that photo Heather was

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<v Speaker 2>bleeding in either dead or near dead, but police were

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<v Speaker 2>unable to retrieve this photo. Donald did testify that he

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<v Speaker 2>told his mother while they were talking at the jail,

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<v Speaker 2>in a conversation that he knew was being recorded, that

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff about the picture wasn't true. Now, he said

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<v Speaker 2>in court he told his mom this because he had

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<v Speaker 2>already had problems with the law and he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to put anything more on his mom. He did say

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<v Speaker 2>he was getting no help on the current charges he

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<v Speaker 2>was facing. In exchange for his testimony, he said he

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<v Speaker 2>was simply testifying because he wanted to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure of the digital forensics on this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do know that in some cases, once phone memories

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<v Speaker 2>fill up, sometimes images that are deleted can never be retrieved.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney was found guilty of the conspiracy to kidnapping charges.

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<v Speaker 2>He was sentenced to ten years in prison. In October

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty eighteen, Tammy's trial started. This trial was full

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<v Speaker 2>of drama, and it's one of the weird quirks of

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<v Speaker 2>this case that Tammy seemed to be more publicly hated

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<v Speaker 2>and blamed than Sidney, the person who actually had the

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<v Speaker 2>affair with Heather. But why was Tammy angry? Was she,

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<v Speaker 2>as she said, just angry about the loss of control

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<v Speaker 2>that she had been lied to, or was she angry

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<v Speaker 2>about Sidney sleeping with Heather? Because Tammy claimed the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with Heather was casual, that she and Sidney had an

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<v Speaker 2>open marriage, and that it didn't bother her that much.

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<v Speaker 2>In court, the prosecution brought up the social media wars

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<v Speaker 2>and the Facebook post where Tammy had called Heather a

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<v Speaker 2>psycho whore. Sidney's mother testified that Tammy beat Sidney after

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<v Speaker 2>she found out about the affair. There was more drama

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<v Speaker 2>when there was evidence introduced very sexually explicit text that

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy had sent to a man she was sleeping with.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, the defense moved for a mistrial because

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<v Speaker 2>they argued that the texts would prejudice the jury against Tammy.

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy told police that she had actually had a nice

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Heather a month before she went missing. She

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<v Speaker 2>said they had resolved their issues at some point during

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<v Speaker 2>this whole process, Sidney and Tammy legally separated. After the

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<v Speaker 2>eleven day trial, the jury convicted Tammy of both charges.

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<v Speaker 2>She was sentenced to thirty years each to run Concurrently,

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<v Speaker 2>in September of twenty nineteen, Sidney Moore was taken back

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<v Speaker 2>to trial on the kidnapping charges, and this time he

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<v Speaker 2>was found guilty. He was sentenced to thirty years in prison.

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<v Speaker 2>Sidney Moore and Tammy Moore have both appealed their convictions.

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<v Speaker 2>So far, they have lost all their appeals, but in

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<v Speaker 2>March of twenty twenty five, Sidney Moore filled out a

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<v Speaker 2>post conviction relief for him in a Wordy County courthouse.

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<v Speaker 2>He is requesting a new trial. In the documents, he

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<v Speaker 2>claimed the prosecution changed their timeline in order to get

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<v Speaker 2>a conviction. He said they had knowingly allowed multiple witnesses

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<v Speaker 2>to lie under oath, and he claimed his attorney did

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<v Speaker 2>very little work. So this drama continues for Heather Elvis's family.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mother publicly stated that Sidney refuses to let her

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<v Speaker 2>daughter go. As of now, Tammy Moore's projected release date

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<v Speaker 2>is May nineteenth, twenty forty three, and Sidney Moore is

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<v Speaker 2>projected for release on March thirty first, twenty forty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Heather Elvis's family have said they do not expect to

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<v Speaker 2>ever see her alive. The question that remains for them

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<v Speaker 2>is where's Heather's body. At trial, Tammy was asked about

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<v Speaker 2>repairs that she and Sydney had done at home when

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<v Speaker 2>they poured concrete. She said, to her knowledge, no one

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<v Speaker 2>ever used cement to cover up Heather's body. Is Heather

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<v Speaker 2>near the location where her phone last pin near the

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<v Speaker 2>nature preserve near Peachtree Landing or could that have been staged?

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<v Speaker 2>Could her car have been put there to guide police

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<v Speaker 2>in the wrong direction. Heather's family can only hope that

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<v Speaker 2>one day she will be found and they will be

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<v Speaker 2>able to bring her home. I'm Catherine Townsend. This is

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