Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Here's anything but milktoast. Welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hans is coming to you from a
Speaker 1: virtual room that is teaming with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? You know
Speaker 1: what it is? Flagship Time. It's the Flagship Programs Sunday
Speaker 1: Night where we recap every game that went down in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And perhaps, boys, uh, we should just celebrate
Speaker 1: the today even happened. And maybe we should start looking
Speaker 1: at every one of these weeks as a gift because
Speaker 1: I know, you know, things looked Uh. We had one
Speaker 1: game moved, um totally off the schedule this week, Steelers Titans.
Speaker 1: We had Cam Newton testing positive for COVID nineteen, leading
Speaker 1: to a postponement of Chiefs Patriot. We had drama around
Speaker 1: the Saints because of a false positive test that led
Speaker 1: to Saints players being woken up in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night last night ahead of a game to be tested. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So this is continues COVID to intrude the landscape in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And it was I mean, it spooked me
Speaker 1: this weekend and I'm sure, you guys felt the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to worry what's the rest of the season
Speaker 1: going to be? Like, I mean, I know there's one
Speaker 1: person celebrating that's Mark Sessler because he wants some sandwiches
Speaker 1: off of it. But yeah, you do, you do worry
Speaker 1: about what's coming up. I actually lost sandwiches, Greig. I
Speaker 1: I my sandwich product to a lot of people, because
Speaker 1: that's right. Typically, I think in the past I would
Speaker 1: have gone towards the angle of cancelations and movements, but
Speaker 1: I tried to um suggest a positive sandwich. That's right.
Speaker 1: It was west that because you That's what it was,
Speaker 1: because you were putting us in the position to take
Speaker 1: the bet and then we would essentially be rooting for
Speaker 1: a stoppage, right and Dan, you and Greg and you
Speaker 1: know I could put energy out there, Well you were you.
Speaker 1: You took a unusually pure um take on it all
Speaker 1: sort of just I don't believe in that kind of
Speaker 1: same way I do. I texted you guys, I do
Speaker 1: think that it probably goes down and I'm not proud
Speaker 1: of this is one of the more evil um energy
Speaker 1: sandwich props around. Because I don't want any of this.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I when the new when the Saints
Speaker 1: news hit last night, something in me felt just total darkness.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad that that situation worked out, but it's
Speaker 1: it's just a reminder that it's like it's just a
Speaker 1: dice roll. It just felt like a dice roll going
Speaker 1: into this weekend. I fight hard against cynicism, and and
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm cynical at all, but I thought,
Speaker 1: if you can get out of this with only a
Speaker 1: few canceled football games are postponed games like as much
Speaker 1: as we've been facing in two thousand and twenty, that's
Speaker 1: a big win. I mean, unless unless we're talking about
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds offense, you are not a cynic I
Speaker 1: agree with you. Well, I mean I believe that that
Speaker 1: was realism. They they're batting averages to twelve this year.
Speaker 1: Give me a break. I can't do it, can't have it.
Speaker 1: I won't have it. All right, So that is the reality,
Speaker 1: um that this is not something that's going away. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we just have to hope it doesn't get worse
Speaker 1: than it got this weekend. But staying on the positive
Speaker 1: side of things, we got nearly a full slate of
Speaker 1: games to talk about on Sunday. So that's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do here, going through each one, and Mark, I
Speaker 1: think we have history today and I want you to
Speaker 1: just soak this up and really enjoy it, because, um,
Speaker 1: you and I both root for career loser franchises. Um,
Speaker 1: but the one you root for is on the up swing.
Speaker 1: And I think in all the years that we've done
Speaker 1: this podcast, we're about to do something that we've never
Speaker 1: done before, which is lead with the Cleveland Browns. So
Speaker 1: let's do it. Ricky three receivers tight off the line
Speaker 1: of the right that come to the laft. Here's Mayfield
Speaker 1: on a reverse. They're gonna give it to Beckham. He's
Speaker 1: rolling to the right and running. He's up to the fifty,
Speaker 1: to the forty five, to the forty thirty. There he
Speaker 1: goes to the twenty fifteen fut touch on Oh b J.
Speaker 1: He's had a hat trick. What a gutsy call. Oh
Speaker 1: done back up Junior. Fifty yards on the run and
Speaker 1: really about a seventy yard run because by the time
Speaker 1: he's got it, he was twenty yards behind the line.
Speaker 1: He was twelve yards behind the line. But points stands
Speaker 1: Jim Donovan and Doug Deacon with a call for w
Speaker 1: k r K. Yeah. Sodell Beckham finished with his first
Speaker 1: three score game in almost five years, cap by that
Speaker 1: fifty yard run on a reverse after the Cowboys had
Speaker 1: cut a forty one to fourteen deficit to three points
Speaker 1: with less than four minutes to play. Beckham had five
Speaker 1: catches for eighty one yards and two scores in addition
Speaker 1: to that clinching run final score eight rounds nearly put
Speaker 1: up a fifty burger uh in jeral world Mark. That
Speaker 1: was the Odell the Browns thought they were getting when
Speaker 1: they traded for him nineteen months ago. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it feels like it's it's taken so long to
Speaker 1: get that game, obviously from Ode Beckham, and there's so
Speaker 1: much pressure around it happening that had happened at the
Speaker 1: ideal time. Uh. You know. His first touchdown was trickery too,
Speaker 1: with Jarvis Landry unfurling a bullet down field to Odell
Speaker 1: in the in the end zone. And that kind of
Speaker 1: was the theme to me. And it's and and we've
Speaker 1: we've mentioned this during Cleveland Start that the better players
Speaker 1: on this roster have stepped up and performed, which is
Speaker 1: really unusual. They've hadn't They've had a couple of name
Speaker 1: players throughout the years that have done the opposite. They
Speaker 1: come to Cleveland in their careers, fizzle. But it's Jarvis Landry,
Speaker 1: it's Odell Beckham, Um. You know, Myles Garrett his third
Speaker 1: straight game with a strip sack. I mean the defense
Speaker 1: was a hot mess down the stretch. But Denzel Award
Speaker 1: with the game ending pick, and you've got Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: coming in for an injured Nick Chubb Um in the
Speaker 1: running game, thriving with guys like Dernis Johnson stepping in.
Speaker 1: You know, they had three yards on the ground. They
Speaker 1: had two hundreds something versus the Bengals a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. You're playing a messy um defense in in Dallas,
Speaker 1: no questions about it, but I mean you went out
Speaker 1: and hammered them, and you know you can point to
Speaker 1: I would say this if you wanted to point to
Speaker 1: one way this game could have ended a little differently.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield missed a wide open Odell Beckham Um right
Speaker 1: in that same world where they needed to save the game,
Speaker 1: and it was third down at Odell Belham was streaking
Speaker 1: down the field and Baker just got he had to
Speaker 1: get rid of the past, and he overthrew Odell and
Speaker 1: maybe we what we would be thinking about Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: a little differently in this game. But his numbers are
Speaker 1: low and they're not they're just not leaning on him
Speaker 1: right now because they don't need to. But he didn't
Speaker 1: throw an interception, he didn't make a key mistake. He's
Speaker 1: not the reason that they, you know, got this decimated
Speaker 1: by the Dallas offense and West you pointed out this number.
Speaker 1: I just think this is incredible through four weeks that
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is on pace right now. No passer has
Speaker 1: ever crossed five five thousand, five hundred yards. He is
Speaker 1: on pace for six thousand, seven hundred and sixty yards
Speaker 1: right now. These teams had nearly six hundred yards of
Speaker 1: offense at halftime, being they're an on site kick away
Speaker 1: from four for all those passing. That's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: getting wasted by a defense that I think definitely misses. Um,
Speaker 1: someone like Layton vander esh Jalen Smith is just not
Speaker 1: himself right now. And there are grumblings about this Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan defense saying that it's too complicated. Um, it's not
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it is not working. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's the fourth strade game in a row, and you
Speaker 1: have to wonder how much longer if you're Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: that you don't have You know, I have to scapegoat
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan at some point also because he's just simply
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying right now, I'm saying at some point,
Speaker 1: but I mean, how much worse can can it get?
Speaker 1: I do. I love the way that they called that
Speaker 1: Beckham reverse and score because I think it showed some
Speaker 1: guts on the part of Kevin Stefanski, who is the
Speaker 1: first offensive play caller outside of the one brief season
Speaker 1: with Kyle Shanahan in Cleveland that maximizes these players. So
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to wonder if they're gonna
Speaker 1: show up. I don't if they can keep this up,
Speaker 1: keep this kind of thing going. But this was an
Speaker 1: impressive force. Your forced the way you want to play
Speaker 1: right on the Cowboys, and the Cowboys on defense did
Speaker 1: not have an answer. There's nobody walking through that door
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. That's one reason why even if Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is not going to maintain this pace, he still
Speaker 1: has a very good chance to set the all time record.
Speaker 1: M Well, they're plut The Browns are plus eight in
Speaker 1: turnover margin the last two weeks, so that that's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough to keep going. They turned it over three
Speaker 1: strip but the running game and the offensive line being great,
Speaker 1: and I think that's possible to keep it going the
Speaker 1: rest of the year. When you play the Steelers twice,
Speaker 1: that will be tested. But there's no question right now
Speaker 1: that they are run blocking. When you can lose Chubb
Speaker 1: and it does and you run for three yards, forget
Speaker 1: about it. And McCarthy, by the way, deserves all the
Speaker 1: blame for hiring Nolan. I mean it's not like you
Speaker 1: can like take like separate that out. Nolan was his coach,
Speaker 1: you know, on the oh five niners and what that's
Speaker 1: that's like his main decision. UM, And it's early, but
Speaker 1: you're you're they have way too much talent. I know
Speaker 1: they're not the most talented defense, and I had some concerns, um,
Speaker 1: but they still have some players on that side of
Speaker 1: the ball, and they are right now among the worst
Speaker 1: in the league. There was definitely like a fifteen minute
Speaker 1: stretch where I was convinced Cleveland was gonna lose, and
Speaker 1: it was right around a point. I I never believe
Speaker 1: they were stopped leading. Whenever things start going well for
Speaker 1: the Browns, it's like the second they get ahead, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: no more talking about you weren't sitting in your house today,
Speaker 1: Like as as the Dallas Cowboys put up twenty four
Speaker 1: unanswered points in the fourth guard quarter, being like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is okay, they'll be fine. No, I never, I
Speaker 1: never for a minute felt felt good about it. And
Speaker 1: I do like watching Mike McCarthy on the sideline. I
Speaker 1: do think some of these coaches must love having to
Speaker 1: wear a mask because you can only imagine what the
Speaker 1: expression is for guys like him and Matt Patricia underneath
Speaker 1: the mask on on what I'm watching that it's like,
Speaker 1: thank God, no one can see the look of complete
Speaker 1: beguilements on my face. That's why that's what superstars do.
Speaker 1: And I've been as hard on Odell Beckham as anybody
Speaker 1: going back to his giant's days, uh, because for all
Speaker 1: his talent, it really hasn't shown up as often in
Speaker 1: years now. And this was like a turn back the
Speaker 1: clock performance where because you knew his physical skills are
Speaker 1: all there. It's just a matter if I guess, putting
Speaker 1: it together and having the right set up to succeed.
Speaker 1: And he bailed out the entire team in this game.
Speaker 1: There was a shot after the Cowboys pulled it to
Speaker 1: forty what was it fort after the two point conversion
Speaker 1: the Dak presscott run, they cut to the sideline. I
Speaker 1: don't know who the Browns players were, but they had
Speaker 1: this look on their face like, oh my god, we're
Speaker 1: gonna lose. That's it. This is a nightmare. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be the laughing stock of the league. And you cut
Speaker 1: to the terrible pooch kick whatever that was on the
Speaker 1: ensuing kickoff, and then the all play bailed the whole
Speaker 1: team out, including Baker, because that was a terrible miss
Speaker 1: down the left sideline, and exactly the type of plays
Speaker 1: that lead to collapses for teams where you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: would have been fine if he just hits the wide
Speaker 1: open guy and the quarterback takes he takes the heat
Speaker 1: off Baker, he takes the heat off the defense. So
Speaker 1: Odell deserves a lot of credit for that. And Mark,
Speaker 1: the Browns are three and one, three and one, Mark, Well,
Speaker 1: and I hope it's a legit three in one. I
Speaker 1: think that I would rather be a team that's, you know,
Speaker 1: running the ball the way they are than freaky finishes.
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep moving back to Josh Hallon. Don't
Speaker 1: try to building to seven part lead Allen taking a
Speaker 1: shot because we're a stroke of genius. Its Bureaudidas with
Speaker 1: the call to pre cbs. You know, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's Randy Marks, because he's not. But I don't remember
Speaker 1: another wide receiver acquisition that has paid immediate dividends like
Speaker 1: Stefon digs of the Bills since Moss joined the path.
Speaker 1: The set records in two thousand seven with Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Uh you heard there. At forty nine yard catch coming
Speaker 1: off a turnover sets up the clinching score for the
Speaker 1: Bills three win over the Raiders at the Death Star
Speaker 1: because they call it. The Raiders added a garbage time
Speaker 1: score here, But don't be fooled by the final tally.
Speaker 1: The two teams played competitively in the first half, but
Speaker 1: the Bills dominated in the second half, and now they're
Speaker 1: four and oh as a result, and um Josh Allen
Speaker 1: puts the finishing touches on a stellar first quarter of
Speaker 1: a season three more touchdowns to passing. Uh this time,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't have any of the head scratching
Speaker 1: mistakes mixed in. It was really solid effort. He got
Speaker 1: came down awkwardly on his left shoulder. That obviously led
Speaker 1: to some nervous moments for Bills fans, but he came
Speaker 1: right back on the field at the end of the
Speaker 1: first half and finished the game. He's playing just incredibly well.
Speaker 1: So there's nothing about the Bills for or no start
Speaker 1: that leaves me thinking are they for real? Though? I
Speaker 1: think the Bills absolutely are for real. And like we
Speaker 1: said on the Thursday preview show, Um West that Alan
Speaker 1: hasn't just taken one step. I feel like he's taken
Speaker 1: three steps. And you add him with Diggs, with this defense,
Speaker 1: with this coaching, and you have a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most incredible metamorphosis we've ever seen
Speaker 1: at that position. You mentioned the decision making. Look how
Speaker 1: many things he's changed from last year to this year,
Speaker 1: and he improved from the previous year already. But the
Speaker 1: decision making. He had to improve touch, he's done that.
Speaker 1: He had to improve accuracy and ball placement, he's done that.
Speaker 1: The degree of separation. These receivers are getting sometimes his
Speaker 1: minuscule and he's putting it right on the money. These
Speaker 1: were all issues he had to solve, and he's solving them.
Speaker 1: In addition to what you say that having a guy
Speaker 1: like digs on top of their other moves hitting too cool.
Speaker 1: Beasley was a big hit, Smoky Brown was a big hit.
Speaker 1: I mean, everything is going right and it's fun to
Speaker 1: see Brown's catching this game near the goal line was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I mean Diggs had a ridiculous catch. Uh, every one
Speaker 1: of their receivers really that you go down the list, like,
Speaker 1: made an incredible play. I thought this was Alan's best
Speaker 1: game because his accurate accuracy was so good. I thought
Speaker 1: it was his best day just throwing the ball because
Speaker 1: you're right West. I think in other weeks they did
Speaker 1: have a lot of separation. In this one, they're actually
Speaker 1: the receivers weren't that open and he was completing uh
Speaker 1: tough passes. They're an Arena League team right now. I
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna score thirty and if they can get
Speaker 1: a couple of plays defensively, and today it came from
Speaker 1: Josh Norman forced to fumble and at Oliver got a
Speaker 1: fourth down stop and Quentin Jefferson got got a strip
Speaker 1: sack in the second half. Then that's all they need.
Speaker 1: And the concern, though Dan, is their defense is bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't a stop in this game until
Speaker 1: five minutes left in the third quarter, and the Raiders
Speaker 1: were the first team to make a stop. So that
Speaker 1: the history tells you mcdermottill coach him up um. But
Speaker 1: they're they're not playing well on defense. Considering how many
Speaker 1: people were out for the Raiders, actually thought they were
Speaker 1: coaching it up pretty well. But they've just made a
Speaker 1: lot of mental errors. The Raiders have in big spots.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they were dominant by any stretch one,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. They literally didn't get a stop until
Speaker 1: almost the fourth quarter, a right, but it was thirty
Speaker 1: to sixteen with a minute and a half to play,
Speaker 1: so they were okay, it wasn't they And if you
Speaker 1: look at their numbers, they've struggled in the second half
Speaker 1: this season. They're not getting to the quarterback a lot.
Speaker 1: I agree with your point overall, but I thought they
Speaker 1: were in total control of this game by the midway
Speaker 1: through the third quarter. I wonder like Brandon Being to me,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy that a he goes and
Speaker 1: finds someone like uh Gabe Davis who also at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You've got a whole another player that's starting to become
Speaker 1: a big part of the offense and made a great
Speaker 1: catch today. Brandon Bean's the guy that said I'm gonna
Speaker 1: roll the dice with Josh Allen, and that was a
Speaker 1: player that completely divided the scouting community and coaches and
Speaker 1: everyone else. And the same way that when you get
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson changes what we think about shorter play callers.
Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen stands out as a really unusual
Speaker 1: type of player, but maybe it leads to more um
Speaker 1: uber athletes like that that need more polished being getting
Speaker 1: a getting a higher look in the draft, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's not crazy to think that a player can grow
Speaker 1: between years two and three and three and four. And
Speaker 1: I mean the jump is astounding, But I mean it's
Speaker 1: the coaching around him, it's Josh Allen putting in the time.
Speaker 1: But I mean he fits so well. All these pieces
Speaker 1: fit so well together, and I just think Brandon Bean
Speaker 1: is like, is a big reason why someone this is
Speaker 1: happening It's so satisfying to have like supported this guy,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen all along and then West lock him up
Speaker 1: today and he just backs us. It's just great to
Speaker 1: be part of the Bill's mafia and see this coming
Speaker 1: from from a mile away. I'm very um connected and
Speaker 1: it's a very personal thing the draft class for me
Speaker 1: because I root for Sam Donald team. And it did
Speaker 1: get me thinking less on Thursday night during another depressing
Speaker 1: UH Jets Donald game, that what would happen if Josh
Speaker 1: Allen was on the Jets? What if he went to
Speaker 1: the ruined any one of them? I think? Right? And
Speaker 1: this is today nothing away from Josh Allen, but more
Speaker 1: to make a greater point about like this is a
Speaker 1: big part of football and successes landing in the right place,
Speaker 1: which these players have no control over. Josh Allen was
Speaker 1: fortunate to land with the Bill's team that was just
Speaker 1: on the rise, UH, and he is, you know, reaping
Speaker 1: the benefits of that. All right, let's move, Let's play
Speaker 1: action for dropping. Brady looks toward the edul Brady tost
Speaker 1: and old j Howard makes to touch touchdown. Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: firelimp tannans Oh Jay on the runch dandy post. It's
Speaker 1: sex for the Bucks. We don't need to say. Oh
Speaker 1: J on the run ever again retired on the run
Speaker 1: talking about football players. Unfortunately, o J is not gonna
Speaker 1: be running for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers anymore this season. Uh.
Speaker 1: He suffered an achilles injury in this game, but not
Speaker 1: before he caught that twenty eight yard touchdown pass from
Speaker 1: Tom Brady that was, by the way, Gene Decker off
Speaker 1: f us. Brady through for three d sixty nine yards
Speaker 1: and five touchdowns, each to a different receiver, helping the
Speaker 1: Bucks shake off a seventeen point early deficit and beat
Speaker 1: the Chargers thirty one. That's three straight wins for the
Speaker 1: Bucks after their season opening loss against the Saints. Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller, Howard, Cameron Bradcasehaun Vaughan all scored on Brady
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Greg I don't remember seeing this version of
Speaker 1: TV twelve during his Patriots swan song in Yeah, how
Speaker 1: do you mean like a vertical game or just like shredding,
Speaker 1: you know, filling up a box score and just going
Speaker 1: nuts statistically in the game, not not since like the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship. You're right, Uh, he is on the perfect
Speaker 1: team because he can go through big slumps. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Bucks offense has played well this season. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're passing game has been really any better
Speaker 1: than it was a year ago. He he struggled for
Speaker 1: the first half of this game, had about nine in
Speaker 1: the yards I think in his first twenty attempts, and
Speaker 1: they were trailing seven, and Joshua Kelly as they're just
Speaker 1: trying to run the ball out to end the half.
Speaker 1: The Bucks didn't have the timeouts to stop it. They're
Speaker 1: up seven, they're going into Atham. He fumbles the ball
Speaker 1: right near his own goal line, and then after that,
Speaker 1: you're right, it was the Brady that you wanted to
Speaker 1: see in Tampa. I think after that it was t
Speaker 1: D T D T D field goal, field goal, field goal,
Speaker 1: something like that, where they did not get a stop
Speaker 1: the rest of the entire game, and they were and
Speaker 1: they were going bombs away. It was it was Bruce
Speaker 1: arians And I don't even know if Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in this game. That's how good justin
Speaker 1: Herbert Spen. But when you're three and one and you
Speaker 1: finally get a week where the offense is the one
Speaker 1: that picks up the team, which was absolutely the case
Speaker 1: in the second half. That that's good for the Bucks
Speaker 1: because they're winning games and I feel like they can
Speaker 1: get a lot better than they actually have been so far.
Speaker 1: We'll let West some wax poetic on Justin Herbert, who
Speaker 1: I you know, I know, I can tell he has
Speaker 1: um West's attention. But it was Arians who said after
Speaker 1: the game that he said, honestly, had this been last year,
Speaker 1: we would have gotten our buttspeet, and butts was a
Speaker 1: different word that he used by twenty points. So I
Speaker 1: don't like. Maybe the offense was better last year in
Speaker 1: some ways, but they're gonna grow, and I mean they're
Speaker 1: in much better They're in a much better hands with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady at the head of the thing than than
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. We saw a Jena piece get taken out
Speaker 1: in action today with Austin Ekeler. Boy, the change in
Speaker 1: that offense with him in there in short yarded situations,
Speaker 1: in two minuteural situations. Their ability to play situational football
Speaker 1: went out the door when when Ekeler got hurt, and
Speaker 1: that really hurt them. But Justin Herbert is so fun
Speaker 1: to watch. I don't go into these sundays planning to
Speaker 1: watch the Chargers, and then you catch a couple of
Speaker 1: plays here, a series there, and you find yourself being
Speaker 1: pulled in by Justin Herbert and his playing style. The
Speaker 1: way he the way he beats Blitz is not by
Speaker 1: you know, the hot read five yards away, but by
Speaker 1: going over the top for forty yards and just not
Speaker 1: being afraid to attack defenses. He's the story. They've lost
Speaker 1: three straight games, and somehow he's a story. He was
Speaker 1: so incredible in this game, and he threw an interception
Speaker 1: with a chance to go tie it down seven late
Speaker 1: before that, he had played almost perfect the deep ball,
Speaker 1: the touch. His running backs went sixteen for twenty uh
Speaker 1: sixteen carries for twenty yards after Ekeler got hurt. He's
Speaker 1: playing without eleven starters right now in the Chargers. I
Speaker 1: mean they they are so banged up. Jalen Guiton, Tyler Johnson,
Speaker 1: Don Parham, Chicken parm I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Like guys that you just don't know are making big
Speaker 1: plays for them. And a lot of it is just
Speaker 1: Herbert is so athletic um but has been really accurate
Speaker 1: for the most part. Two and uh, he you're I'm
Speaker 1: with us. He has been so fun to watch. They
Speaker 1: they they their injuries. I think I've ruined their season. Um,
Speaker 1: but Herbert at this point has given them so much
Speaker 1: hope for the future. And what's the better what's better
Speaker 1: to see than the fact that he's making plays with
Speaker 1: these no namers versus you know, like completely, you know,
Speaker 1: have to wait a year to find out what he is.
Speaker 1: It kills them though, because they wanted their defense to
Speaker 1: carry them and it's just not gonna happen now. They
Speaker 1: they've just lost too many players. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if Bosta was on the injury report, he was totally
Speaker 1: erased today. The buck Sell line played great today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give Tristan Worth some credit. He's turned out to be.
Speaker 1: If four games mean anything, that's a home run draft pick.
Speaker 1: And justin Herbert was another guy like Josh Allen. I
Speaker 1: remember we were at the Combine and someone that is
Speaker 1: very well respected in that game that pre draft game,
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I don't like Herbert. He's the
Speaker 1: only guy don't like. He was very divisive. Sure enough,
Speaker 1: the guy comes out of the gate like a mad bomber.
Speaker 1: He's been a lot of fun, much looking forward to feel.
Speaker 1: They've lost every game by one score so far. Very
Speaker 1: chargers of them all. Right, let's move up. Hand off
Speaker 1: goes inside to look Murray looking for a team touchdown.
Speaker 1: Latavius Murray. Saints get great push again. Always a good
Speaker 1: sign when you see your card standing up in the
Speaker 1: end zone and Lottavius Murray puts his pads down and
Speaker 1: just drives a hole through that defense and from six
Speaker 1: yards out, Lottavius Murray with his second touchdown of the day.
Speaker 1: Zack Streef with the call w w L Yeah. The
Speaker 1: Saints rode that COVID nineteen roller coaster this weekend, came
Speaker 1: out smiling on the other side. Latavius Murray's six yards
Speaker 1: score was the final five consecutive touchdowns for the Saints,
Speaker 1: who wiped out an early two touchdown deficit and win
Speaker 1: over the Lions. As I said at the top of
Speaker 1: the show, Saints bullback Michael Burton had a false positive
Speaker 1: test for the coronavirus on Saturday, leading to another round
Speaker 1: of test for players and staff overnight in Detroit. Burton said,
Speaker 1: just a lot of emotions going on, because you never
Speaker 1: want to be a distraction. They had to wake up
Speaker 1: other guys and test them, factoring in the background noise,
Speaker 1: the absence of multiple members of the secondary and of
Speaker 1: course Michael Thomas. That's a nice win for the Saints,
Speaker 1: wasn't it, Mr Ceciler. Yeah, I mean it's they overcame
Speaker 1: a lot. You mentioned it. I think Sean Payton all
Speaker 1: these coaches have to say, you know, this season when
Speaker 1: it comes to COVID, we just have to not and
Speaker 1: accept any scenarios. But you know, there used to be
Speaker 1: the old thing where uh you know, rowdy Dennison's of
Speaker 1: a town would go pull the fire alarm in the
Speaker 1: visiting team's hotel. But this this is a whole different
Speaker 1: deal when it's attached to something that could be grave
Speaker 1: or canceled the game in general, and they got down
Speaker 1: fourteen nothing, and it was a very Lions this game
Speaker 1: on that front too, because they get down fourteen nothing
Speaker 1: and at that point in the in the second Lion's
Speaker 1: touchdown came off a breeze picked or a tipped pass
Speaker 1: that wound up as an interception. Uh. Then though New
Speaker 1: Orleans minus many starters got on a tear because they
Speaker 1: went on five straight touchdown drives thirty five unanswered points
Speaker 1: for they weren't quirky either. Four of those drives went
Speaker 1: for more than seventy five yards. And we all get
Speaker 1: where Drew Brees is at at this point, and he's
Speaker 1: still to me as a little bit of a thousand
Speaker 1: yards stare where I think he kind of gets where
Speaker 1: he's at two. But he was more effective in this game.
Speaker 1: He he looked different than he had in weeks past.
Speaker 1: He was deadly accurate on intermediate routes. Um, I think
Speaker 1: next Gen Stats had him at let me find it here. Well,
Speaker 1: next Gen Stats liked what he did on intermediate routes
Speaker 1: that he was really good. Um, I will football, he
Speaker 1: was really good, but it's you know. What was good
Speaker 1: to see was like Emmanuel Sanders stepping up. Tray Kwon Smith,
Speaker 1: who looked like he was going to get knocked out
Speaker 1: of the game with an injury at one point, made
Speaker 1: some great catches in this so they got enough from
Speaker 1: justin just the right people. Alvin Kamara helped him out.
Speaker 1: This game also was a score of Gami, which is
Speaker 1: one of those um unique NFL scores that have never
Speaker 1: occurred before, and that is the fifth and fifty seven
Speaker 1: scoring combination in the NFL that kind of stuff. I like,
Speaker 1: um As for the Lions, they looked the same to
Speaker 1: me on offense every week. It's like you're leaning on
Speaker 1: like Adrian Peterson is still good, okay, but like this
Speaker 1: offense there's no offense should be centered around Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: right now. And they get a few plays from Kenny
Speaker 1: Golladay and they they're trying to you know, t J.
Speaker 1: Hockenson is becoming a little bit of a thing. But
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, come on, dude, I mean, like this is
Speaker 1: the same thing every week. You get up by double digits,
Speaker 1: you get you let it all go. And I mean
Speaker 1: this this was right for the Picking had they just
Speaker 1: you know, hung on, hung onto it. And the Saints
Speaker 1: were a little they were they were they just had
Speaker 1: to be better coached, they lean on better depth, and
Speaker 1: they came up in a game where there would have
Speaker 1: been all the excuses to crumble here you could have
Speaker 1: pointed to eight or nine different things, and they come
Speaker 1: out with the win. I mean, they've lost the lines
Speaker 1: of lass sixth straight leading by double digits. There's there's
Speaker 1: obviously maybe this shouldn't be obvious, but there's never been
Speaker 1: an NFL team to do that. I mean that it's
Speaker 1: it's it's outrageous. They're heading into a bye week. I
Speaker 1: mentioned the Bucks scored four touch duns in a row.
Speaker 1: You said the Saints did five a row. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a new forward owning the team
Speaker 1: right now. You don't know if she's gonna jump in
Speaker 1: and and want to make a big splash in week four.
Speaker 1: What's what's really the point? But it's ugly. I think
Speaker 1: Camara is back to being the number one running back
Speaker 1: in the league, and I don't even know if he
Speaker 1: looks great. Well, you've embraced Mark fantasy in a way
Speaker 1: that none of us could have expected this year. So
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know that he is lapped the field
Speaker 1: against other running backs in terms of fantasy scoring because
Speaker 1: he is, especially with Michael Thomas out of the lineup,
Speaker 1: and hopefully that won't be too much longer. Now he
Speaker 1: seems to be on track to play this week, and
Speaker 1: then over the weekend he was ruled out, but he
Speaker 1: has been a major part of the passing game, and
Speaker 1: I you know, we'll see, we'll see where they are
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. But lest I know,
Speaker 1: you've been very big on Drew Brees and the arm
Speaker 1: strength and and all that. But am I gonna be
Speaker 1: stunned if they end up as a top ten offense
Speaker 1: according to various metrics. I won't be. I think they'll
Speaker 1: end up top ten to me. To me, they'll be
Speaker 1: top ten. But then in big moments against a better defense,
Speaker 1: are you? We know the quarterbacks limited he has been
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. This offense goes through Camara
Speaker 1: and Thomas, not the quarterback. I would love to have
Speaker 1: a great regular season offense. The route for you, It's
Speaker 1: like last year they lost Breeze and Teddy came in
Speaker 1: and he was Teddy and they showed again at the
Speaker 1: very resilient they can win with depth and backups. But
Speaker 1: now they look kind of like the Teddy Bridgewater offense
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees at quarterback. To me, big win, let's
Speaker 1: move rivers Field throws the Molalle Cox ferrels forward across
Speaker 1: the goal line, touchdown mo Alee Cox Matt Taylor w
Speaker 1: f N I with the call. Moley Cox is having
Speaker 1: a breakout season with the big score. Julian Blackman's interception
Speaker 1: Nick Foless a killer for the Bears. Quarterback. We struggled
Speaker 1: to move the offense and his first start since replacing
Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinski, if I will score nineteen to eleven Coults
Speaker 1: over the Bears a soldier field. West Indie has been
Speaker 1: winning with their defense so far this season. More of
Speaker 1: the same on Sunday, it looks like, well, I think
Speaker 1: they're you know how the Cowboys struggled at all three
Speaker 1: levels of their defense. I think the Colts really do
Speaker 1: well at all three levels. DeForest Buckner had another dominant game.
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard got injured, but he's been there at linebacker,
Speaker 1: Justin Houston at linebacker. And then this Julian Blackman if
Speaker 1: they drafted in a third round, came in from Malik
Speaker 1: Hooker uh in Week two and has been an upgrade.
Speaker 1: He this guy is a natural ball hawk. Uh. He
Speaker 1: and Xavier Rhodes both playing great in the secondary. And
Speaker 1: if a team like the Steelers is sort of like
Speaker 1: sharks with chum in the water, I think the Colts
Speaker 1: defense is more like a constrictor, like a like a python.
Speaker 1: They just suffocate you, They squeeze the life out of you.
Speaker 1: And they did it again today. And if you know
Speaker 1: um Full said this week, Frank Reich is the guy
Speaker 1: who made him a player. It reminded me sort of
Speaker 1: like an old school dad saying I brought you into
Speaker 1: this world and I'll take you out too, because Frank's
Speaker 1: defense knew how to stop Nick Foles well. And on
Speaker 1: the Front West it was Blackman who said that Frank
Speaker 1: Reich prepared their defense so well for fools, so in it,
Speaker 1: you know it bit them too, and it's just, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think this This game also squeezed the
Speaker 1: life out of some viewers. According to Dan, some reaction
Speaker 1: to Yeah, I said on Twitter that one day I'll
Speaker 1: tell my grandchildren that this game was the most boring
Speaker 1: board I ever was. I couldn't I had it on
Speaker 1: my secondary screen. And apparently we're gonna get to a
Speaker 1: game later that a lot of people are coming back
Speaker 1: with saying even worse. But then it led to kind
Speaker 1: of a fun thread where people started sending me some
Speaker 1: box scores of other super boring going back years. Everybody
Speaker 1: has them. Uh they stick to your mind when they're
Speaker 1: truly wretchedly boring for whatever reason, and this one was
Speaker 1: that way for me. Cults have been boring for three weeks.
Speaker 1: Winning boring, I guess that that's fine, They're gonna play
Speaker 1: some real offenses. These are two of the only teams
Speaker 1: in the league where I think you can look at
Speaker 1: and say, like, oh, they have defenses. Like I it
Speaker 1: feels like there's only like six or seven defenses at most,
Speaker 1: and these are two of them. But is there West
Speaker 1: you watch? What's your level of panic um with t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton? Because t Y Hilton's he said that he
Speaker 1: retired three weeks ago. I thought he actually played really
Speaker 1: well today. Uh, he had one he came down with.
Speaker 1: I think he I think he brought another penalty um,
Speaker 1: but he I thought he played well today. But I
Speaker 1: did identify the Colts fatal flaw this year. What is it?
Speaker 1: It's the red zone offense. And if you look at
Speaker 1: look at the pickles at Josh Allen puts defenses in
Speaker 1: in the red zone the way he can take a
Speaker 1: quarterback draw, he can take a roll out. Um, he
Speaker 1: can squeeze passes in the tight windows. How many of
Speaker 1: those things and Philip rivers do He can't beat you
Speaker 1: with his legs and he can't squeeze passes in the
Speaker 1: tight windows. So what does that leave you in the
Speaker 1: red zone? This is a struggling offense down there. Hey,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, what uh do you say to the red
Speaker 1: zone struggles that your team is faced? Does it bother
Speaker 1: you though? Oh yeah, I get it. I feel that.
Speaker 1: I feel it. Man. There was one play West I
Speaker 1: tweeted about it and then you replied. And whenever West
Speaker 1: replies to something I tweet from an analysis standpoint and
Speaker 1: he agrees with me, I feel good about it. Um
Speaker 1: it was they were in the red zone and you know,
Speaker 1: the pocket collapse, no one's open, he goes to escape.
Speaker 1: He's so slow. Oh my god, I mean he is.
Speaker 1: I would think that Brady might even be faster than
Speaker 1: like late period Eli Mannings got him beat. He just
Speaker 1: moves in slow motion, so there's no adding extra, you know,
Speaker 1: stealing yards and turning. You know, Josh Allen type theatrics
Speaker 1: out on the Colts offense. It need to be more precise.
Speaker 1: We have a term for that. And I think Joe
Speaker 1: Bacco helped us get there, which is stone age pony.
Speaker 1: And I mean Rivers can still do some some things well,
Speaker 1: but you know, dancing around nimbly is not one of those.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was one of the slowest quarterbacks. I
Speaker 1: think um the day he entered the league. And he's
Speaker 1: been playing in the and and and at no. I
Speaker 1: think he's maybe been the slowest quarterback in the league
Speaker 1: the whole time he's been in it. And now it's
Speaker 1: sixteen years in. That's it's not gonna be any faster.
Speaker 1: It's like David Ortiz trying to score from first on
Speaker 1: a double in two thousand seventeen. At a certain point,
Speaker 1: it almost becomes a story when someone gets that slow.
Speaker 1: But it's fun. It's fun. It makes us relate to
Speaker 1: the men. You know, sometimes West trying to score from
Speaker 1: first on the shield. You know, we were popping hamstrings
Speaker 1: trying to get around the basis, snapping like dry twigs.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Jackson will keep it on
Speaker 1: the read option. He's got a whole forty Like Grace,
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to a dead stand for like four years,
Speaker 1: and then you run to first base. Sometimes your leg implodes.
Speaker 1: She really wanted that back, all right. That was Jerry
Speaker 1: Sandusky with the called w B A l Lamar. Jackson
Speaker 1: ran for a fifty yard touchdown his career, along which
Speaker 1: surprised me. I thought he might have had like a
Speaker 1: ninety nine yarder in there at some point since he
Speaker 1: was a rookie, and he threw for two scores as well.
Speaker 1: And a bounced back performance by the reigning NFL m
Speaker 1: v P and the Ravens as a whole. They take
Speaker 1: control early against the Washington football team and coach to
Speaker 1: a seventeen win coming off a humbling loss obviously to
Speaker 1: Kansas City on Monday night. But this Baltimore team, this
Speaker 1: is the team that does massive damage during the regular season.
Speaker 1: You could see it, like you can see how they
Speaker 1: they're sphincters tightened up on Monday night. But when things
Speaker 1: go in the opposite way, they play so loose and
Speaker 1: they play so confidently. Uh that do you understand why
Speaker 1: things go right for them? You know like Sam conscious
Speaker 1: Jean yard completion on fourth and nine on a fake
Speaker 1: punt throw, Like I don't think John Harborough had the
Speaker 1: onions to pull that on Monday night. I thought that
Speaker 1: they were tight as a team. But when you're playing Washington,
Speaker 1: this is when the Ravens look absolutely impossible to to
Speaker 1: be I will say that. Uh, the defense, you would
Speaker 1: have thought they would absolutely have their way with Dwayne Haskins,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't quite the case. Haskins actually through for
Speaker 1: a career high three fourteen yards, but a lot of
Speaker 1: it was checkdowns and Antonio Gibson doing the hard work
Speaker 1: for Haskins, and a deep ball late in garbage time
Speaker 1: west to your boy the star wide receiver whose name
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting scary Terry McLaurin. Um, So don't put too
Speaker 1: much stock into the yardage by Washington. They weren't competitive,
Speaker 1: and there was one play in particular, UM a fourth
Speaker 1: and goal early in the fourth quarter. It's a two
Speaker 1: score game where Haskins locks on a guy in the
Speaker 1: flat uh and throws about nine yards short of the
Speaker 1: end zone and uh the guy gets pushed out of
Speaker 1: bounds because three guys were converging on him as he
Speaker 1: caught the ball and they cut as as CBS or
Speaker 1: as fox goes to break or CBS. It was. You
Speaker 1: see Ron Rivera turn his back to the camera and
Speaker 1: just like stalk back to the bench. And I don't
Speaker 1: know he could have been doing or saying any number
Speaker 1: of things, but I'm wondering if what's going on in
Speaker 1: his head is like this guy doesn't even know that
Speaker 1: he needs to throw to the end zone on this play.
Speaker 1: The game's over after that play, or there were reports
Speaker 1: before the game that they were. Ian Rappaport reported they
Speaker 1: were gonna pull Haskins if he struggled, and he opened
Speaker 1: with a punt, a turnover in the punt, So I
Speaker 1: wonder how close they came to yanking him before they
Speaker 1: missed a field goal and then scored, you know, then
Speaker 1: they then he picked it up a little bit. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the turnover, it wasn't on him. The turnover was a
Speaker 1: forced fumble by Marlon Humphreys that led to a touchdown.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Haskins, it was like a c performance that
Speaker 1: probably will keep him in the lineup. But again, you know,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that situation. It's tough for the
Speaker 1: Ravens because you compare them to last year. And I'm
Speaker 1: happy um to hear you say, Dan, you thought it
Speaker 1: was dominant, because I looked at this starting the game
Speaker 1: and and I just I'm comparing it to this team
Speaker 1: that was historic, and I think, wow, you you come
Speaker 1: out against Washington, you punt two of the first three
Speaker 1: possessions and then you need a fake punt to score
Speaker 1: on the next one, and Lamar's thrown an interception right
Speaker 1: before halftime, and the yardage is pretty close, you know, throughout,
Speaker 1: and it's almost unfair because you're comparing them to that offense.
Speaker 1: But like last year, it feels like in this game
Speaker 1: they go forty five on you you know, probably think,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was dominant in the sense of like
Speaker 1: this game was never in doubt and they took care
Speaker 1: of business. But this wasn't the type of Ravens performance
Speaker 1: became accustomed to last year. That's fair any other questions
Speaker 1: about this game. I don't know what's going to happen
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation, but that was a get right game
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson and uh I, whom they will continue
Speaker 1: to get right next week against. It's so weird that
Speaker 1: Washington's tied for you know it pending the result of
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game. We taped this a little earlier.
Speaker 1: It's like Washington's, you know, right in the mix. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's you know, one and three. Someone's gonna win the division.
Speaker 1: Going five and eleven, maybe they'll still be in the mix,
Speaker 1: you know, in December, but I'm just kidding. Its ugly.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Ravens lead the NFL and points
Speaker 1: off turnovers the season with thirty eight, so they do that.
Speaker 1: They still do a bunch of things. Well, I think
Speaker 1: it was a bump in the road on Monday night,
Speaker 1: and it's one that could cost them, as we talked
Speaker 1: about with playoff positioning. But they'll continue to beat up
Speaker 1: all these teams that are beneath them. The Ravens are
Speaker 1: gonna be Okay, let's move on. If a runner went
Speaker 1: to the ground, the ball hit the ground and moved,
Speaker 1: thank you for an incomplete path. Thank you, first down
Speaker 1: ball bites are in the win column. That's the best
Speaker 1: we could do on the for the call here, I
Speaker 1: heard it. That was it. I mean, that was the game.
Speaker 1: That was the type of ending that the Vikings got.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to enhance the vetting process
Speaker 1: starting in week five and these calls, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: this is what type of game it was. Paul Allen
Speaker 1: with the call for k f A and Mike Zimmer's
Speaker 1: struggling d got to stop it needed as you just heard,
Speaker 1: and Dalvin Cook ran for a hundred and thirty yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns for the Vikings, who beat the Texans
Speaker 1: thirty one to three. Greg The road killed game has
Speaker 1: produced the expected result, one team lives to fight another day,
Speaker 1: and one team, the one coached by Bill O'Brien, is
Speaker 1: headed to the NFL's equivalent of the Pet Cemetery. They
Speaker 1: are in a division where the culture three and one,
Speaker 1: the Titans are three and oh you know, the Texans
Speaker 1: are oh and four, and the Dolphins have their first
Speaker 1: two picks next year. And I thought that call was perfect, Dan,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue for it because neither team left this
Speaker 1: I think feeling so good. I mean the call. The
Speaker 1: game ended on an overturned call of Will Fuller in
Speaker 1: the end zone. David Johnson was half a yard short
Speaker 1: of of time of you know, giving them the Texans
Speaker 1: a chance to go for a two point conversion. What
Speaker 1: would have been a big time collapsed by the Vikings defense.
Speaker 1: They have the ball half a yard short on second down,
Speaker 1: then Johnson fumbles it on a pitch uh, And they
Speaker 1: eventually get it to Fuller, who you think maybe was
Speaker 1: gonna like make an amazing play, and they overturn it
Speaker 1: on review. And it's just like that reaction to me
Speaker 1: from the Vikings is almost perfect because it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we gotta win, you know. That's that's it. That's all
Speaker 1: we got. West is giving me the thumbs down the
Speaker 1: whole sequence. You know, it's your point, Craig Like, there's
Speaker 1: a friend of mine named Eric who is a longtime
Speaker 1: listener to this show. He listens to every episode and
Speaker 1: he's a Vikings hardcore fan, and he said, here is
Speaker 1: my takeaway from the game that Mike Zimmer and Gary
Speaker 1: coop back should be in totally hot water. Despite the win,
Speaker 1: that feels like it's floated. Well, I mean, you know
Speaker 1: we're looking at the season on whole, but that this
Speaker 1: is this is a team headed in the wrong direction
Speaker 1: no matter what happened today against a lost Texans team,
Speaker 1: well defensively, defensively, it's absolutely true, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're gonna be able to fix it. Daniel Hunter
Speaker 1: might be out half the season. We'll see. Offensively, I
Speaker 1: think they have a lot to be excited about the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. Their offense has played very well um
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, especially today today it was even better.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins had a really good day justin Jefferson. They
Speaker 1: found something. I know. It doesn't feel like the Stefon
Speaker 1: Diggs trade was a win win, but you did get
Speaker 1: a bunch of picks, a lot of picks, and you
Speaker 1: drafted Justin Jefferson, and man, he looked awesome today. Uh,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is running, you know. I know Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: has been the best running back, but the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook has broken a tackle almost every single run.
Speaker 1: And that zone running scheme that Kubiak is, you know,
Speaker 1: brought to bring in, it's taken hold because they're running
Speaker 1: against eight man boxes and it's the angles that they're
Speaker 1: running is are beating those boxes. So I think their
Speaker 1: offense has some good things to feel good about, but
Speaker 1: but the defense probably is not gonna like allow them
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Check out this um this Viking
Speaker 1: upcoming schedule. I'll see what's going on at Seattle on
Speaker 1: Sunday night next week. Tough Spots home versus Falcons at
Speaker 1: Green Bay Home versus Lions at Bears. Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: they're probably to figure out a way to go. Gotta
Speaker 1: beat the Packers, and you gotta beat the Packers and
Speaker 1: Bears and or else, h you're in trouble. That that ending,
Speaker 1: though it was unfortunate. Deshaun Watson cooked in the second half,
Speaker 1: but he but he really struggled in the first But
Speaker 1: I just want to point out how bad this Texans
Speaker 1: defense is. They don't have a turnover this year, and
Speaker 1: they're just like fatally they don't have a turnover. I
Speaker 1: don't know if J. J. Watts hurt um. He was
Speaker 1: on the injury report earlier this season, but he wasn't
Speaker 1: this week. He hasn't played every snap like he normally does,
Speaker 1: and he certainly you know, hasn't made big plays. But
Speaker 1: they're so slow. This is such a slow defense, and
Speaker 1: and you have two inside linebackers playing every down, Zach
Speaker 1: Cunningham can't cover and Bernardrick McKinney. They're one of the
Speaker 1: worst rush defenses, if not the worst in the league,
Speaker 1: and they just are beating them to the outside. They're
Speaker 1: just so slow, and so it just feels like a
Speaker 1: fatal construction of this up. They're up through the slow years.
Speaker 1: Well they're gonna cut, Yeah, they're gonna cut McKinney, I
Speaker 1: think after this year. But I don't see how this
Speaker 1: defense figures it out. It's just it's ugly. Who don't
Speaker 1: try to convince me to start believing in the Vikings
Speaker 1: this season. I'm just not gonna do. No, I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I wasn't going there. I was just defending Kobayat because
Speaker 1: I think you can absolutely see um some good things
Speaker 1: about their offense the last two weeks. That's all. But
Speaker 1: the team does not look great. T Y Hilton, J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt A J. Green Superstar club is gonna have to
Speaker 1: make some painful decisions. You know what started the season
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I'm I'm I'm leaving some room here.
Speaker 1: But the last two weeks have been tough. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's move up. Jones has his Giants at the long,
Speaker 1: has his snap steps up right at the twenty. He
Speaker 1: fires to the five. It is intercepted Darius Williams a
Speaker 1: diving interception the clinch. It's with fifty two seconds remainings.
Speaker 1: He had the diving pick in Philadelphia in the end zone,
Speaker 1: and here AT's so Fi Stadium he does it again.
Speaker 1: There he is elite mench There you go, Greg J. B.
Speaker 1: Long KSPN with the call. Big interception there of Danny
Speaker 1: Dimes and Jared Goff hit Cooper Cup earlier in quarter
Speaker 1: on a fifty five yard touchdown that allowed the Rams
Speaker 1: to grind it out nine over the Giants and Mark.
Speaker 1: The only thing that people are ever going to remember
Speaker 1: about this game is the Jalen Ramsey Golden Tate brawl
Speaker 1: post game. It's the only thing anybody's gonna talk about
Speaker 1: because it's highly salacious, it's a family matter, and it's
Speaker 1: spilled out into the public forum on Sunday. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's you can go look up what the family matter
Speaker 1: is if you if you'd like, Um, so I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: How about I'll tell you we're gonna be basically Golden Tate.
Speaker 1: I can't even dignify bringing it because that's coming because
Speaker 1: we were told by emails. No, we were told by
Speaker 1: email not to dig into it. But like, I'm sure
Speaker 1: no one's listened to this thing. So basically, like Golden
Speaker 1: Tates sister was with Jalen Ramsey and when she was
Speaker 1: Mark spilling tea right now, well, probably I won't be
Speaker 1: on the show anymore. It's like because we you know,
Speaker 1: we we can't possibly follow the rules of NFL dot com.
Speaker 1: But there was an issue between these two because Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey basically walked away from Golden Tates sister while she
Speaker 1: was pregnant to be with what they're describing as a
Speaker 1: Las Vegas dancer. I don't I don't think that means
Speaker 1: like a you know, up on stage like a girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let think it's probably more in that world. But
Speaker 1: beyond that, um, they've had bad blood for it's been
Speaker 1: going on for a while. They have not encountered each
Speaker 1: other on the field. Today they did. And it's interesting
Speaker 1: that the play of the game, because Dan, this is
Speaker 1: probably the game that many people were writing to you
Speaker 1: saying this was the most boring game people have witnessed.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know in the league, officers are thinking,
Speaker 1: how special that we finally get to have Los Angeles
Speaker 1: and New York are two special markets clash on in
Speaker 1: a four o'clock spot, and it was making people's eyes bleed.
Speaker 1: So you know, like, actually, it's New Jersey enough, we
Speaker 1: get it, Western New York. You're the only New York
Speaker 1: team on Twitter. We get this. The Rams were in
Speaker 1: an absolute stupor and it was ten to nine with
Speaker 1: about ten minutes to go, and the Giants were basically
Speaker 1: they were they were looking better on the ground than
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and they were moving the ball and that
Speaker 1: is when Jalen Ramsey slam Golden Tate down on a
Speaker 1: third down catch that basically gave Golf and the offense
Speaker 1: one more shot to kind of turn this thing around.
Speaker 1: And that's when the Cooper Cup catch happened, and you know,
Speaker 1: then the Rams had another chance to come out and
Speaker 1: they had a three and oh, so like they never
Speaker 1: really got it together, and I kind of look at
Speaker 1: I don't even it doesn't really change what I think
Speaker 1: about the Rams that much, because I think the good
Speaker 1: teams are gonna have one of these games a year
Speaker 1: where it's like, you just they were in a total
Speaker 1: funk the entire time. These teams were bickering the whole time,
Speaker 1: though Aaron Donald got into a fight with someone, there
Speaker 1: were stuff on the sideline. Then this thing erupted at
Speaker 1: the end. So I wonder if it's just it was
Speaker 1: a really ugly, ugly game and one where if you're
Speaker 1: the Rams, i'd want to see why that was. But
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take too much out of it other than
Speaker 1: the fact that I would always be suspicious when like
Speaker 1: on our show on on Thursday, we all kind of
Speaker 1: like ticket did this as a Rams blowout. And then
Speaker 1: on Friday, I was watching some shows in the in
Speaker 1: the predictions for the Rams blowouts were getting bigger and bigger,
Speaker 1: like they're just gonna take New York out thirty eight
Speaker 1: to seven seven, Like then we know it's not gonna happen,
Speaker 1: and it didn't in the Giants, like their defense for
Speaker 1: the fact that I would imagine most people couldn't name
Speaker 1: three people on that defense. They were frisky in this game,
Speaker 1: and you can kind of see the makings of something
Speaker 1: happening on that side of the ball. But the offense
Speaker 1: lacks any direction right now. I mean, they're just it's
Speaker 1: they're a messy team. I am obviously from New York
Speaker 1: and many of my friends growing up are Giants fans.
Speaker 1: And there has been a sea change on text around
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes very quickly. Uh. They're starting to turn on
Speaker 1: the young passer and in general on the Giants and
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman and and they're getting psyched up about the
Speaker 1: idea of Trevor Lawrence and being in that hunt tank
Speaker 1: for Trevor. Uh it is you know, if you take
Speaker 1: out that first half of Week one on Monday night, uh,
Speaker 1: and you actually go all the way through and midway
Speaker 1: through the third quarter against the Steelers where he had
Speaker 1: that nine yard drive that ended with the interception. From
Speaker 1: that interception on Jones has been kind of a mess,
Speaker 1: and that is that's probably the final nail in the
Speaker 1: coffin of that. If you go watch this game, and
Speaker 1: there were times Jared Goff didn't look well today because
Speaker 1: he was not well protected, and so you know, it's systemic.
Speaker 1: It's what's around him, and you've lost se Kwan Barkley,
Speaker 1: the heart and soul of your offense. And you know,
Speaker 1: Jones creates a lot of his own problems. We know that,
Speaker 1: but there were there were certain plays where like everything
Speaker 1: was crumbling around him, and it's like young quarterbacks typically
Speaker 1: are not going to survive in that atmosphere to to
Speaker 1: begin with. That's I thought, Dan, that was a harsh assessment.
Speaker 1: And I think the the offense has been crumbling around
Speaker 1: him the entire season. The offensive line has been terrible,
Speaker 1: historically bad rushing attack. Um, they only moved the ball
Speaker 1: the previous week on design quarterback runs. I mean it
Speaker 1: was he's got a lot on his plate. I I
Speaker 1: do think it's been crumbin around him, but it's it's
Speaker 1: I mean, they less yards and uh, you know the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had these two teams. I mean, the Rams had
Speaker 1: two yards. That's one of the most surprising things, uh
Speaker 1: of the week. But I'm with you, market. I think
Speaker 1: when with these seasons in general with the NFL, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: one week, you just give them Mulligan two weeks as
Speaker 1: a trend, and then and then you see what's happening.
Speaker 1: They're they're three and one. They they these NFC West
Speaker 1: teams and we're gonna get to one that hasn't done
Speaker 1: a good job of it. They have favorable out of
Speaker 1: division schedule, so they have to take advantage when they're
Speaker 1: playing the cream Puffs. Uh. And you know they did
Speaker 1: it enough today. Let's check in with another undefeated team
Speaker 1: in our league. And Rush Russell looks right side, got
Speaker 1: him out of the hands of reaching up making me catch.
Speaker 1: David Moore? Is he in for the touchdown? Here's David Moore?
Speaker 1: Are men? David Moore is another guy they have. That's
Speaker 1: Steve rabel k I r O with the call. He
Speaker 1: had three catches for ninety five yards, including that game
Speaker 1: clinching touchdown for the Seahawks and a thirty one to
Speaker 1: twenty three win over the Dolphins. And this game was
Speaker 1: closer than the Desert anticipated uh, but not for the
Speaker 1: reasons that I thought it would be a close game too.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on Thursday, but I thought it'd
Speaker 1: be more of a high scoring game with Seattle's defense
Speaker 1: continuing to struggle. But there was progress for Seattle's defense
Speaker 1: in this game. Uh. They delivered a much better performance here.
Speaker 1: They actually kept Miami out of the end zone until
Speaker 1: the game's final minutes, which made the score uh look closer.
Speaker 1: But this was I believe a seventeen fifteen or seventeen
Speaker 1: sixteen Seattle lead in the fourth quarter before they pulled away. Um.
Speaker 1: So the Seahawks will take anything positive around their defense
Speaker 1: right now because they're essentially just like the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: a great offense with a horrific defense, and they're one
Speaker 1: in three. Seahawks maybe aren't as bad on defense as
Speaker 1: Dallas has been. They've had some better moments, but they
Speaker 1: have they have a similar problem where they're fantastic on offense,
Speaker 1: can't get stops on defense. But they were better today
Speaker 1: and their four and o now for the second time
Speaker 1: ever in their season, and Russell Wilson is matching Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning's touchdown record pace through the first four games of
Speaker 1: the season. What do you have to hold on too?
Speaker 1: If you're a Dolphins fan, you think right now not
Speaker 1: to go negative, but well, I like Florris, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't know what it is this team. It
Speaker 1: just feels like a It feels like a second straight
Speaker 1: transition year. I guess. Yeah. I was thinking about that
Speaker 1: after the game, because especially when you talk about the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, because Fitzpatrick has been good on balance. Again,
Speaker 1: he's steady, he's fun to watch. He has his up moments,
Speaker 1: he has his down to moments. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick. But
Speaker 1: you're one in three. If if TWA is healthy, wouldn't
Speaker 1: you at this start to begin thinking about the process
Speaker 1: of turning it over and beginning to evaluate him and
Speaker 1: kind of officially start this next era of Dolphins football.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe the hip injury that's suffered in college.
Speaker 1: I know he's cleared and all that, and I think
Speaker 1: he was the backup quarterback on Sunday, which is a
Speaker 1: sign again they believe that he's healthy. You just wonder,
Speaker 1: even though Ryan Fitzpatrick has been Ryan Fitzpatrick, whether they're
Speaker 1: getting closer to that decision. Yeah, I've wondered if they
Speaker 1: were waiting to see let Ryan Fitzpatrick play to see
Speaker 1: how good the rest of the team was and whether
Speaker 1: it's worth rushing him in there behind you know, probably
Speaker 1: the rawest offensive line there is, UM, but they've outperformed expectations.
Speaker 1: I think up front. Yeah, the defense they want to get.
Speaker 1: You know, they have a lot of young players and defense,
Speaker 1: a lot of free agent additions, so I think they're
Speaker 1: they're hoping that they improve as the season goes along,
Speaker 1: but they're they're not there yet. I mean the Sea
Speaker 1: I just look at the Seahawks being four now and
Speaker 1: you think of who's undefeated in the NFC, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, wow, this this NFC playoffs is gonna be
Speaker 1: I know it's a little early for this, but it's
Speaker 1: just kind of amazing to think that the playoffs could
Speaker 1: be Rogers, Russ, Brady Breeze, Um, you know mcveigh's maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he gets back in there or whatever. It's just
Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks, it's outrageous. I like the idea of
Speaker 1: like the the top heavy Seahawks, you know, getting a
Speaker 1: top seed. Yeah, we were I know we're not allowed
Speaker 1: to talk MVP talk on the show, Greg, you've decided that,
Speaker 1: but the quarter poll, you can at least like do
Speaker 1: the m v P of the quarter. How about the
Speaker 1: Well I was gonna talk about, you know, the all
Speaker 1: pro call that I made with Aaron Rodgers, which I
Speaker 1: feel good about. But then you look at like, what
Speaker 1: else is going on? How many guys get all pro
Speaker 1: to right too? Okay, so you have what Dak Prescott's doing,
Speaker 1: you have what Russell Wilson's doing, you have what Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's doing. I mean, even a great season by Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: There's some truly badass that would be fourth right now,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. He would not. I think that the
Speaker 1: other three would would be votes. Doc would be fourth
Speaker 1: out of that group, but I think he would be
Speaker 1: thrown for seven thousand yards. Well, I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: you had to vote today. If they had to vote today,
Speaker 1: I think that's what would happen. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's the top four m VP guy. Um, And good
Speaker 1: to see Chris Carson out there, by the way, he
Speaker 1: was a game time decision after he got his knee twisted.
Speaker 1: He actually scored twice average five yards of carry, so
Speaker 1: that's also good news. Uh. And We'll see Seahawks get
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams back next week and start to get healthier
Speaker 1: and can turn this into a trend that the defense
Speaker 1: is on the up swing. Good battle by the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: but not good enough. All right, are we bringing on
Speaker 1: our friend Nick Shook? Now? Is at that time of
Speaker 1: the show. It's time for the handoff too, handsome bald whites.
Speaker 1: Only one can stay on the show though one must arrive,
Speaker 1: then one must leave zero some game with our handsome
Speaker 1: bald whites. Yeah, Chuck looking fresh, the beard is looking
Speaker 1: well cut. No, I like it alright. Bathtime for me.
Speaker 1: We'll see like a little game. Bath time. He's gonna
Speaker 1: light some candles, burn some incense, and take a bath.
Speaker 1: I never I haven't taken a bath since I was
Speaker 1: a child, because I find the idea of a bath repulsive,
Speaker 1: Like it's you're basically going there to cleanse yourself, but
Speaker 1: you're bathing in your own filth. You gotta you wash
Speaker 1: yourself first and then you fill up the bat How
Speaker 1: many people would wash the bath first because it's also
Speaker 1: other people's feet, and you know people taking a lot
Speaker 1: of baths. Greg, I mean that's what you do, You
Speaker 1: wash yourself first and then you fill it up. That's
Speaker 1: the move. Well I like that. I can't even I've
Speaker 1: gotten it's got increasing the words for me where I'm
Speaker 1: not really going in too many public pools either. I
Speaker 1: think about it too much. Maybe it's having kids and
Speaker 1: you realize just how gross uh younger humans are and
Speaker 1: then half the older humans the hygiene is probably not
Speaker 1: where it needs to be. Chuck, where are you on
Speaker 1: this before we get into the next gun. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just a waste of um water
Speaker 1: and in a long process. I mean, if you're out
Speaker 1: to really relax, I guess you do that. I will
Speaker 1: say my grandparents live out in rural Ohio and they
Speaker 1: built their house. I think like when I was an
Speaker 1: infant or whatever, and part of the house construction was
Speaker 1: this really nice bathtub with jets in it, and that
Speaker 1: is an experience that is worth taking a bath. But
Speaker 1: if we're here strictly to efficiently clean yourself and you've
Speaker 1: got other stuff to do, baths out of the equation,
Speaker 1: of course, not right. I mean, I think West is
Speaker 1: doing it for instance, not He's not like I must
Speaker 1: clean my body. He's doing it for the for the
Speaker 1: sensation of being in warm water, which essentially takes us
Speaker 1: back to the room, which Greg's excuse for his daily back.
Speaker 1: I don't take any actually at my house because it's
Speaker 1: too small. Um, but I've taken Yeah, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that's that's the move. Um. And West doesn't and watch
Speaker 1: his game pass, which is next level. He puts on
Speaker 1: like he's getting justin Herbert out there, maybe a bottle
Speaker 1: of conditioner nearby, and he's going to town. And then
Speaker 1: the other thing is get too excited. This is also,
Speaker 1: you know, factored in my thoughts on it. When you
Speaker 1: have two young sons and they share a bath together
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like, oh, Harry, did you did you
Speaker 1: use the party before you got And he's like, no,
Speaker 1: you know what happened. They don't care. These kids don't care.
Speaker 1: All right, choke, thank you for joining us. We got
Speaker 1: you set up with a couple of games here before
Speaker 1: Sunday night football. So let's dig in now. Borrow will
Speaker 1: line up in the shotgun, even though it's third and
Speaker 1: less than a yard. He'll hand it to Mixing the
Speaker 1: Touchdown Show Mixing and the Bengals his third of the day.
Speaker 1: Dan Dan Poor, Dann Poor or is it board Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: He spent part of his weekend in the hospital mysterious
Speaker 1: chest pains, but he looks fine. On Sunday Restaurant hundred
Speaker 1: fifty one yards carriage with two touchdowns, had another touchdown
Speaker 1: on a swim pass reception from Joe burrowin over the
Speaker 1: Jaguars shook. That was the first win of Burrow's career.
Speaker 1: But the story here is Joe Mixon breakat performance. So
Speaker 1: for the entire season up to this week, the Bengals
Speaker 1: had inexplicably gone away from Joe Mixon and it didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense, especially with the rookie quarterback. What are
Speaker 1: the two things he you have a rookie quarterback to
Speaker 1: try to make him feel comfortab especially when you don't
Speaker 1: have a good offensive line. One is a titan and
Speaker 1: you can rely on. Two is a reliable running games
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have to drop back fifty times a game,
Speaker 1: which is what the Bengals primarily did for the first
Speaker 1: three weeks. Then around halftime today it's like somebody went
Speaker 1: down to the sideline of Paul Brown Stadium grab Zach
Speaker 1: Taylor by the shirt. Social distancing totally violated him around
Speaker 1: twice and said, hey, you got Joe Mixon on your roster,
Speaker 1: give him the football. So he did. Times one carries
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. The first touchdown kind of serving is the
Speaker 1: score that broke through the wall for the Bengals, I
Speaker 1: think through this season because far too often, and especially
Speaker 1: in the first half Sunday, their offense just ran into
Speaker 1: these issues and they got down on the red zone.
Speaker 1: It just felt a little constrained. It's almost like they
Speaker 1: tried to do too much. And then they said, all right, well,
Speaker 1: let's hand the ball to Joe Mixon, let's dump it
Speaker 1: off to him, Let's figure out way to get him
Speaker 1: the football. He scores on the right side, takes a
Speaker 1: shot after he scores, and it was like, oh, we
Speaker 1: forgot we had this guy. Look what he can do.
Speaker 1: And they wrote him the rest of the way to
Speaker 1: a Big three. And what this game really looked like
Speaker 1: before that point was very much what last week's game
Speaker 1: that ended in a tie with the Eagles look like.
Speaker 1: Then they scored with mixing and it's like they just
Speaker 1: opened the floodgates or just opened their own expectations or
Speaker 1: understanding of reality that hey, we can score the floor.
Speaker 1: You know, we can score I hate score the football
Speaker 1: or score the basketball, by the way, even though I
Speaker 1: almost just said that, uh, and we can win a game.
Speaker 1: And they won a game, so you know, good for them,
Speaker 1: and finally realizing that they have a good running back
Speaker 1: in their team. But always the go ahead, Greg, no
Speaker 1: you go. I wunna say. Burrows the first player in
Speaker 1: NFL history that to open his career with with three
Speaker 1: straight like with multiple three yard games like this, And
Speaker 1: I mean, he just seems like he looks the part.
Speaker 1: And it's been a terrible situation for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been under darrest NonStop. And I'm totally with you
Speaker 1: that they should have used mixing more than they have.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's like record aside some of these teams,
Speaker 1: Like you know, if you're if you're a Chargers fan
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, if you're Bengals fan with Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: it's like the sun is still shining very brightly because
Speaker 1: of what you found under center. Yeah, of course, And
Speaker 1: and he was impressive again, and he totally looks the part.
Speaker 1: He's the real deal. I mean, I in all the
Speaker 1: games that I've watched him, he looks like a guy
Speaker 1: that you were right in spending the first, you know,
Speaker 1: number one overall pick on which oftentimes we've seen teams
Speaker 1: spend high picks on quarterbacks. You just don't look the
Speaker 1: part when they get the NFL. Joe Burrow looks like
Speaker 1: he's been the NFL for five years, and he did
Speaker 1: again Sunday. But the problem was, as they were trying
Speaker 1: to rely way too much on him in weeks past
Speaker 1: and going away from Joe Maxon and expecting Burrow to
Speaker 1: win the game single handling and with the offensive line
Speaker 1: that they have, he just hasn't been able to do that.
Speaker 1: He's gotten him close. He got him close against Cleveland,
Speaker 1: he got him close against Philly, even got him close
Speaker 1: in Week one against Los Angeles. This time he finally
Speaker 1: they finally went way not away from him, but they
Speaker 1: used somebody other than just Joe Burrow and it put
Speaker 1: them over the top. Now, the Jaguars, I mean they
Speaker 1: were exciting for the first two weeks. The last two
Speaker 1: weeks are the team that we expected to see and
Speaker 1: I think the team that rent to see for the
Speaker 1: majority of the season. It was a close game for
Speaker 1: a while, we were in the tie zone kind of.
Speaker 1: It was very much in play because they neither were
Speaker 1: really doing much and they were with been a score
Speaker 1: before the Bengals kind of finally pulled away. There were
Speaker 1: a few times in the first HAF two in the
Speaker 1: red zone where Joe Burrow had a chance to put
Speaker 1: the ball in the end zone. One time it was
Speaker 1: a really nice pick by Myles Jack who ripped the
Speaker 1: ball out of Drew Sample's hands. The other time they
Speaker 1: just couldn't get it in there, uh and had to
Speaker 1: resort to Randy Bullock field goal. So again, he's mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's the guy. They have, their quarterback. They just
Speaker 1: have to fix everything around him, or at least use
Speaker 1: the weapons around him, and Joe Mixon is a big
Speaker 1: part of that. Well, they're not gonna play the Jaguars
Speaker 1: every week. That's a difference. I mean, they did four
Speaker 1: players over twenty yards in the first three weeks. For
Speaker 1: as much as Burrow as look good, they have the lead,
Speaker 1: they were by far the least explosive offense, and like
Speaker 1: I think they had eight or nine today. I watched
Speaker 1: this game by mistake thinking it was my assignment. Whoops, um,
Speaker 1: But I'm glad I knocked it out. They're very similar teams.
Speaker 1: To me, and the difference was, Uh, the decision making
Speaker 1: by Burrow is pristine when he's protected. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't fault this offensive line today. He was protected pretty
Speaker 1: well today. Uh, and obviously got helped with the running game,
Speaker 1: whereas Minshoe had a couple of decisions when he chose
Speaker 1: to run on a third down um that ended up
Speaker 1: in punts and they were bad decisions, and the interception
Speaker 1: he threw was a bad decision. He played really well.
Speaker 1: I would say overall, they just have a very small
Speaker 1: margin for error this defense. And so if you make
Speaker 1: a couple and you have a coach who doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to realize what kind of team he has, you know,
Speaker 1: punting on fourth and short and kicking field goals on
Speaker 1: fourth and show you know, Ma Maron. Sometimes he's like
Speaker 1: he's playing to a defense that's not there. Gruden. Gruden
Speaker 1: does that too, poking around the box score here, Shook,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing because we brought him up earlier, so I'll
Speaker 1: bring him up again. A J. Green had one catch
Speaker 1: for three yards on five targets. Is there anything they
Speaker 1: had receptions? Overall? The team for three Higgins looks good, right, Yea.
Speaker 1: His name just not a part of the game plan anymore,
Speaker 1: or was he injured or what He was a focus
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville's game plan for sure. Very often when he
Speaker 1: was tired, it seemed to be at least two defenders
Speaker 1: in the area. There was a couple of times where
Speaker 1: he was completely blanketed and couldn't come down with the catch.
Speaker 1: But you're right, like Greg said, Tee Higgins was a
Speaker 1: big party. He looked good at age. Tyler Boyd was
Speaker 1: a big part as well. They were the two guys
Speaker 1: who got the ball the most. Joe Burrow does a
Speaker 1: very good job, especially for a rookie, for not looking
Speaker 1: to a J. Green and not relying on that. He's
Speaker 1: surveying the field and he's finding his open men, which
Speaker 1: I mean this Bengals team, if they were just a
Speaker 1: little bit better probably defensively, uh and could avoid you know,
Speaker 1: becoming too reliant on Burrow, they could win some full
Speaker 1: competitive competitive right now every game they've been in. Also
Speaker 1: fair to ask you give Burrow credit for that, but
Speaker 1: it's possible that a J. Green is washed too right
Speaker 1: and he's not getting open anymore because he doesn't have
Speaker 1: the ability he once had. I mean, also John Ross
Speaker 1: is a healthy scratch weeks in a row. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like that guy's out the door. What is
Speaker 1: it hashtag gradual decline. I don't know if that's entirely
Speaker 1: true with A J. Green, but yeah, he has not
Speaker 1: been a big part of this offense for the majority.
Speaker 1: So you know what the Browns messed up last year
Speaker 1: shook when you were a team employee, and we still
Speaker 1: need to get the full details what led to your
Speaker 1: early exit there. But if if they had you as
Speaker 1: the muscle you're talking about somebody that needs to go
Speaker 1: down to the sideline and straighten out a head coach,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have his head on straight. If you were
Speaker 1: going down there and slapping around Freddie Kitchens, tell him
Speaker 1: to get the ball to Nick chubbmore and Cream Hunt
Speaker 1: and all this, maybe the Browns would have been a
Speaker 1: playoff team last year. Well, I mean Freddie and I
Speaker 1: had a pretty solid relationship. That wasn't the issue. The
Speaker 1: issue was they had too many cooks in the kitchen
Speaker 1: there in the on the offensive stuff. You could take
Speaker 1: out multiple cooks. I mean, you know, I think we
Speaker 1: all we all see where you're at physically, Like multiple
Speaker 1: cooks would not be in this maybe they had one
Speaker 1: too many kitchens in that building as well. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would never be I would never be an enforce or
Speaker 1: with Todd Mulkin. Have you seen him. He's a skinny guy.
Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. You know, he's he's an offensive
Speaker 1: wizard at the college level. Now stuff, you know, we're
Speaker 1: all good. I was gonna get in there cause problems.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Bridgewater retreats, climbs the pocket.
Speaker 1: It's gonna run with it. Bridgewater cups to the right
Speaker 1: at the Bridgewater to the five. Unbelievable Teddy Bridgewater House
Speaker 1: is from twenty one yards away. Sneaky fast. Mcmixon and
Speaker 1: Kirk Coleman called w BT Teddy Bridgewater. He's sneaky fast.
Speaker 1: The Panthers QB scrambled and joked his way to an
Speaker 1: eighteen yards scoring Ruth added two passing scores win over
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. The Panthers cool off the Cardinals. Actually, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals have cooled up precipitously after that two and oh
Speaker 1: start shook. That was Teddy's first rushing TV since that
Speaker 1: devastating knee injury back in the summer of sixteen. He's
Speaker 1: an amazing story. Yeah, he certainly is, and he had
Speaker 1: he was very sharp today. You gotta give a lot
Speaker 1: of credit to the game plan put together by Joe
Speaker 1: Braid and the way he called the offense today. I
Speaker 1: thought for every situation he had an answer to whatever
Speaker 1: Arizona presented him with defensively. And this is one of
Speaker 1: those games where you're seeing two middling teams or below middling,
Speaker 1: and the coaching comes out as a difference, and the
Speaker 1: Panthers looked like the more prepared team from the sideline today.
Speaker 1: It's just a were one step ahead of the Cardinals
Speaker 1: for the majority of the game. In Carlinal scored toushdown
Speaker 1: late to make it a little bit closer, But for
Speaker 1: a lot of today it was a Panther's dominated game.
Speaker 1: And that started with Teddy. You know he when he
Speaker 1: had that Russian touchdown, I said he had did his best.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald I prussion because he escaped right up the
Speaker 1: middle for a touchdown. But I don't think he's sneaky fast.
Speaker 1: I think he's just fairly fast. I mean, we've known
Speaker 1: him to be at sneak. He just sneaky fast, though
Speaker 1: he everyone went went too hard the other way of
Speaker 1: like when a couple of people were like, this guy
Speaker 1: can't scramble. I mean, this guy is a scrambler. He's
Speaker 1: athletic when he was coming out, and people are like, no,
Speaker 1: Like you're just saying that because he's black. Um, Actually
Speaker 1: he's more of a pocket guy. But sneaky fast seems
Speaker 1: right for me, and I think he's been earny here.
Speaker 1: Of course, is that usually sneaky fast is attributed to
Speaker 1: the white guys in the slot. He's the first. He's
Speaker 1: the first black quarterback to be called sneaky fast. I
Speaker 1: think it's appropriate, and I think he's been getting faster.
Speaker 1: He he's looked a little more athletic every year, and
Speaker 1: that was a big part of his game at Louisville,
Speaker 1: not so much scrambling to run, but evading pass rushers.
Speaker 1: I think he's done a good job. How about Matt
Speaker 1: Rule putting it on old Cliff Kingsbury again for the
Speaker 1: Big twelve? I mean something there when you're getting, when
Speaker 1: you're getting Reggie Bonifin and Mike Davis the rush for
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty plus yards, I'm I'm kind of
Speaker 1: in with you, Mark. This Matt Rule thing is it's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: People are like, Oh, I mean the thought was they
Speaker 1: would be you know, progressing and you know, causing problems
Speaker 1: late in the year and they're already showing that they
Speaker 1: can coach. Well, I have to ask you those shook.
Speaker 1: I mean when you look at the Cardinals, do you
Speaker 1: think that what's going on here? Are there are teams
Speaker 1: may be catching up to this scheme or is it functioning?
Speaker 1: So I think at four point three yards for attempt today,
Speaker 1: it's two weeks in a row where they've they have
Speaker 1: not looked um at all like they did earlier in
Speaker 1: the in the first two weeks. Well, you know why
Speaker 1: because a lot of the Cardinals offense is predicated on
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray improvising and patching all the holes that they
Speaker 1: have by just running and gaining first down and adding
Speaker 1: that element of the unexpected. And and you know when
Speaker 1: they ran the ball effetually last year with Kenyan Drake,
Speaker 1: he came out of the shotgun by spreading guys out. Well,
Speaker 1: that's not working this time. I mean they were creating
Speaker 1: lanes by lessing defenders in the box. That's just that
Speaker 1: element of that is not in their game today. Uh.
Speaker 1: Kenny Drink and thirteen carriage for thirty five yards. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna get you anything. When when your quarterback
Speaker 1: is consistently outrushing everybody else and you have to rely
Speaker 1: on that as a staple of your offense, Eventually other
Speaker 1: defenses are gonna catch up to it, because that should
Speaker 1: be something that's improvisation, not something that's built into the
Speaker 1: way you succeed on a week to week basis. And
Speaker 1: it really hurt them today, and it especially doesn't help
Speaker 1: them when they have to come from behind. Their defense
Speaker 1: did them no favors like I said they were. I
Speaker 1: think they were out schemed for the majority of this game.
Speaker 1: And I think that the Cardinals are gonna have a
Speaker 1: tough path because those first games they want early in
Speaker 1: the season a lot of that, especially in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: For example, those first downs were converted by Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: with his legs, and I just don't think that's a
Speaker 1: sustainable way to win a game. Eleven throws to non
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins wideouts for twenty six yards. That's that's not
Speaker 1: the Gabbard zone. That's like the Cincinnati Reds batting average zone.
Speaker 1: That is right the Panthers. And this is why sports
Speaker 1: are funny Panthers now and two with Christian McCaffrey two
Speaker 1: and oh without which takes us to Sunday Night Football,
Speaker 1: Sunday Night. From the twenty five yard line, I'm a
Speaker 1: little throws and all the way to the zone touchdown
Speaker 1: Alex Singleton. Shan makes a terrible throw. Shingleton is right
Speaker 1: there and then they are shut rating in front of
Speaker 1: the big tree. Baby who baby Indeed Al Michael's with
Speaker 1: the call for NBC. Alex Singleton, right place, right time
Speaker 1: for the specials special teamer who steps in front of
Speaker 1: that Nick Molans pass takes it to the house. Turned
Speaker 1: out to be the clinching score for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: who hold on for twenty win over the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty Niners at the Big Bowl Bottom, a huge win
Speaker 1: the goals, who, as the old saying goes, spent most
Speaker 1: of the game on offense, making it look like they
Speaker 1: were on a one twenty yard field going uphill both ways.
Speaker 1: But Carson Wentz with a long touchdown passed to put
Speaker 1: them ahead, followed quickly by that pick six and Nick Shook.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are in first place as a result. It
Speaker 1: was ugly, but I don't think this Seguel team could
Speaker 1: win or get their first one of the year any
Speaker 1: other way than than an ugly fashion against a team
Speaker 1: that was you know, I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: equally a shorthand probably more shorthanded. The Eagles have had
Speaker 1: their own rash of injuries, of course. I mean that
Speaker 1: we we saw who scored, you know, a touched in tonight,
Speaker 1: a guy who has no statistics recorded prior to tonight,
Speaker 1: uh in Travis Fulham. So Uh an interesting game, Uh,
Speaker 1: an exciting game at the end. Sure if if you
Speaker 1: thought that Bethroom can actually throw it to the end zone,
Speaker 1: but hey, the Eagles are off the schnide, right, he
Speaker 1: did throw it to the end zone, Bethard got. I
Speaker 1: mean it's crazy that after the Eagles kind of sat
Speaker 1: on the ball and didn't pick up a third and
Speaker 1: nine after replacing Nick Mullins, and we can you know,
Speaker 1: get into NICKA Mullins just having a nightmarish night. Uh.
Speaker 1: From the first from the jump, I mean he missed
Speaker 1: his first two throws by a mile, including what could
Speaker 1: have been a monster one to use check and uh,
Speaker 1: Bethard put a hail Mary up there from about the
Speaker 1: thirty five forty that that literally hit George Kittle and
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel in the hands. So it's like it was
Speaker 1: that it was that close, but uh, the Eagles almost
Speaker 1: felt like they deserved this one. Um. I don't know.
Speaker 1: The way the defense got after Nick Collins was was
Speaker 1: pretty good and just it just felt like a miracle.
Speaker 1: The two long drives that they did have an offense,
Speaker 1: the touchdown drive in the first half and the field
Speaker 1: goal drive to start the second half which took about
Speaker 1: eight minutes, It just felt like that was such an
Speaker 1: achievement for them that it was like, Okay, night, enjoy
Speaker 1: your first place. You're one too and one Eagles fans.
Speaker 1: I thought coming out of the half that the Niners
Speaker 1: they put together this drive. You know, that third quarter
Speaker 1: was one of those almost rare quarters were only two
Speaker 1: drives would have um occupied in the entire period, but
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a third one in there.
Speaker 1: But the Niners had a touchdown drive that covered seventy
Speaker 1: five yards that I thought was sort of a Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan and almost Nick Mullins special where there was a
Speaker 1: bullet to Brandon aiyuk Uh. McKinnon got involved there was
Speaker 1: a classic nod to Mike Shanahan with a shuffle pass
Speaker 1: that John Elway used to run with the Broncos back
Speaker 1: in the nineties, and then everything fell apart from there.
Speaker 1: Was followed by a punt, the fumble, the interception, the
Speaker 1: quarterback switch, and there you go. Niners could not get
Speaker 1: it done. I they you know, they go up when
Speaker 1: Whence connects with fulgam for forty two yards, then the
Speaker 1: pick six, and the game looks like it's a actively done.
Speaker 1: At that point, Bethard comes in uh and gives the
Speaker 1: Niners a spark and after on site kick recovery, I
Speaker 1: just I, you know, especially Doug Peterson, a guy who
Speaker 1: helped bring the league along, and being aggressive on fourth down.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the way they played that. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball for a yard, they ran the ball for
Speaker 1: no gain, and then wentz did that annoying little thing
Speaker 1: where the quarterback takes the snap and then scrambles and
Speaker 1: then slides down like Michael Strahan's chasing him for the
Speaker 1: sack record, you know, not being aggressive where he's just
Speaker 1: go go get a first down, just go get a
Speaker 1: first down and and show some um gumption. But I
Speaker 1: guess Doug Peterson is that's where he's at with his offense.
Speaker 1: Even coming off the touchdown pass on the drive before,
Speaker 1: there was three and a half quarters of evidence saying
Speaker 1: that Philadelphia is not an offense to be trusted right now.
Speaker 1: But you know, they got away with it. But it
Speaker 1: was definitely a closer call than it should have been.
Speaker 1: But that shouldn't That doesn't kind of mark the night
Speaker 1: for me, especially since they still want I think it's commendable.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has gotten a ton of heat this year,
Speaker 1: and he's deserved some of it because he hasn't played well.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he is really dealing. It's got a stack
Speaker 1: deck against him, and you know, the offensive line is
Speaker 1: beat up right now. His left tackle was in and
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. The wide receivers, so many pieces
Speaker 1: are missing, and it just seems like such a challenge.
Speaker 1: Even against an injury depleted forty Niners defense, it was
Speaker 1: very difficult to find receivers who were open. So you
Speaker 1: give you give Win's credit for hanging in there and
Speaker 1: keeping this game close and then making the big strike
Speaker 1: to take control when he's got Adrian Killings in there,
Speaker 1: You've got Travis Fulgan, but I would just say, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna use jail and Hurts, that's fine, but have
Speaker 1: those plays makes sense. Had the offense to me, the
Speaker 1: Eagles offense like pretty much post Frank Reich. But I'll
Speaker 1: just speak about this night, like I don't think they
Speaker 1: kind of know what they want to be and maybe
Speaker 1: they can't with the personnel in there. But like Miles
Speaker 1: Sanders to me, like, I'm not nearly as impressed with
Speaker 1: this guy as some people around the country seem to be.
Speaker 1: Like they when they were dominant, back when they went
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I think the thing that is
Speaker 1: forgotten because they've never been that way since they had
Speaker 1: a pounding run game that would beat people up down
Speaker 1: the stretch. They were the third best run game in
Speaker 1: the league, and that's completely absent right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of indicative of the fact that
Speaker 1: they've lost so much the offensive line. I mean, not
Speaker 1: having Brandon Books is a big deal. Having to shift
Speaker 1: to Jason Peters over is a big deal, having to
Speaker 1: figure out what you had left guard. But they weren't
Speaker 1: last year either, Like yeah, and you know they were right,
Speaker 1: I Mean, they weren't this banged up there. I mean
Speaker 1: they I think they think this is a this is
Speaker 1: a freaking miracle that they just won a game without
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned Lane Johnson coming in and out,
Speaker 1: so four of their five offensive linemen were out. Their
Speaker 1: top receivers, Uh, we're Fulham greg Ward was kind of
Speaker 1: their number one. You've got Richard Rodgers, Uh coming over
Speaker 1: from creen Bay. You got Hight Tower, your fifth round pick. Uh.
Speaker 1: Their defensive line is totally healthy and was d e
Speaker 1: And to me, it was the difference in in this game.
Speaker 1: You know, Brandon Graham was killing Mike McGlinchey. Those are
Speaker 1: two starters. Actually McGlinchey is the forty Niners starter. Uh.
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat made plays like they up and down their bench.
Speaker 1: That was kind of the most dominant part of this game.
Speaker 1: But Mullins also kind of just didn't show up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Mullins is the big is the big takeaway
Speaker 1: from me here. I think they lost the game because
Speaker 1: the Nick Mullins. It's not it stinks to put it
Speaker 1: on one player, but when it's the quarterback, that's the
Speaker 1: way sometimes things go in football. Because you look at
Speaker 1: this team and if I'm a Niners fan, I'm bummed
Speaker 1: because I'm two and two now, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: you see the pieces are there. George Kittle came back
Speaker 1: and it's absolutely just such a dominant player. Um, he's
Speaker 1: the toughest tackle in football. Deebo Samuel's back in the
Speaker 1: lineup and he made some plays. He just looks different
Speaker 1: and and he's he's big and he's fast. And then
Speaker 1: Brandon Dayuk you saw he flashed that special ability on
Speaker 1: the touchdown. Once Jimmy g gets back in there, I
Speaker 1: think the Niners are gonna be okay and continue to
Speaker 1: hang in the race. But it doesn't this loss any
Speaker 1: easier to swell because you're at home against the injury
Speaker 1: ravaged Eagles team and you don't find a way to
Speaker 1: get it done. Yeah, you know, going back to the
Speaker 1: Eagle's offense point, it felt kind of like they, you know,
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson's just searching for something the whole, the whole
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts insertion and and everything they tried with him.
Speaker 1: They try to basically double pass and he turned to
Speaker 1: throw it and it was obviously covered because you had
Speaker 1: an idea what they were going for with Hurts lined
Speaker 1: about wide. It just it just feels like they're searching
Speaker 1: and they're trying to find something that sticks to throwing
Speaker 1: everything at the wall and they finally gonna win. So
Speaker 1: I mean it is it's it's a boost for them
Speaker 1: because going back to Philly oh three and one would
Speaker 1: have been really difficult, especially against team that's quarterback by
Speaker 1: Nick Bollins and then later season method. So you you
Speaker 1: obviously give them credit to the defense, like you said,
Speaker 1: but it's still going forward, it's gonna be tough and
Speaker 1: they have to play the Ravens and the Steelers coming
Speaker 1: up next. Everyone in the NFC's council a little extra
Speaker 1: that this this was kind of a perfect son uh example.
Speaker 1: Though part of what istball I think it's been a
Speaker 1: little under reported almost are just the level of injuries
Speaker 1: is outrageous. They're just if this isn't normal to have
Speaker 1: entire teams ravage, like we're we're kind of getting the
Speaker 1: on the forty Niners for not beating this injury banged
Speaker 1: up the Eagles team, But forty Niners are missing nine
Speaker 1: or ten starters and so are the Eagles. Like that
Speaker 1: is rare, and there's about six or seven teams that
Speaker 1: are like that, and even the teams that are kind
Speaker 1: of healthy. It's like, you know, the Browns lose Ogan
Speaker 1: Job and Chubb today even during this game. The forty
Speaker 1: Niners lose Ziggyanza sounds like to a biceps injury maybe
Speaker 1: for maybe for the season. It's like they got Dion Jordan.
Speaker 1: They're picking up lottery guys that that were that were
Speaker 1: out of the league and just like putting them right in.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of the story of the league right now.
Speaker 1: There are some teams that are just so wiped out.
Speaker 1: It's a little hard to even like make an evaluation
Speaker 1: of any of these things. But I think Craig, I
Speaker 1: think we like people widely praised the Niners for being
Speaker 1: super injured and pounding too bad New York teams. They
Speaker 1: played a banged up team tonight and they lost. So
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the statistically there are more injuries or not. It
Speaker 1: seems like there are, but I feel like there in
Speaker 1: terms of like multiple multiple guys, in terms of like
Speaker 1: half of a team of starters being out on like
Speaker 1: five teams, it's there that that never happened. So I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just giving the forty Niners fans. They're gonna
Speaker 1: get some people back. Like Dan said, the cavalry is coming.
Speaker 1: They went too and too. If you can beat the
Speaker 1: Dolphins next week, you're three in two. I mean you've
Speaker 1: also picked the Eagles to go to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: so you've got both fan bases. On the Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: side here, we know how this works. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a little campaign. Greg does this with two or three
Speaker 1: teams a week, tries to reach out to their fan
Speaker 1: base on Twitter. Dan knows, just like football. What are
Speaker 1: you talking about to uh miss the playoffs? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: did we get a mention of Saint Twitter yet? Exactly?
Speaker 1: We gotta start ringing a bell for that. Hey, Shook,
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for doing the show. I
Speaker 1: know obviously this has been a tough time for you
Speaker 1: after uh the Indians crapp the bet against the Yankees
Speaker 1: in the playoffs for you know, another year, tough, tough
Speaker 1: stitch for you. But you know you're a good sport
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Well, you know, Dan Um,
Speaker 1: if we could ever level the playing field in terms
Speaker 1: of salary uh spending for for rosters, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: a salary cap or or a better revenue sharing or oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, um something to compare the payrolls at all. Well,
Speaker 1: then maybe we'd be on an even playing field and
Speaker 1: then we could talk seriously. But you know, the adience
Speaker 1: always undermanned in terms of finances. Even if their owners
Speaker 1: turn a thirty million dollar y your profit, give or take,
Speaker 1: you got to get an owner who spent some money.
Speaker 1: They fault. They're never gonna spend money here. It's it's
Speaker 1: a it's a deep conversation that we cannot do on
Speaker 1: this podcast. The last time they spent money was obvious
Speaker 1: a kid in the nineties with the Jacobs, and those
Speaker 1: guys are long gone. It's tough. Yeah, your cy young
Speaker 1: winners got to do better than that though in that spot,
Speaker 1: well go ahead or yeah, just let him allow allowed
Speaker 1: Nick to enjoy one of the rare Browns victors of
Speaker 1: his lifetime, versus bringing up I get to enjoy anything.
Speaker 1: I am a Jets fan, so maybe this is my
Speaker 1: chance to have something nice in my life. Maybe it
Speaker 1: all bounces out a little bit. I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like the Yankees are a pretty nice thing to have
Speaker 1: in your life in Generaliza, Yeah, yeah, it must be nice,
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to look back on a
Speaker 1: few World Series in your lifetime, unlike I have to
Speaker 1: go back to my great grandfather to find the Indians
Speaker 1: last World Series. And you know what, one more thing,
Speaker 1: the Browns. Like you said, Mark the Browns. They're now
Speaker 1: three and one for the first time since two thousand one.
Speaker 1: They opened that season with a loss to the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks nine to six at Cleveland Brown Stadium. Ricky Waters
Speaker 1: was on that roster, among other people. I opened two
Speaker 1: thousand one by playing flag football on the field at
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown Stadium. That's how long it's been since the
Speaker 1: Browns were in any shape of contention. At this point
Speaker 1: in the regular season, I was in fourth grade. M
Speaker 1: m A. While it's important, it's important to get yourself
Speaker 1: worth from whether your team succeeds or so. This is big,
Speaker 1: like this is that, this is what's gonna make you rise.
Speaker 1: Imagine if we all had the clarity that Greg has
Speaker 1: on all things in life. Red Sox fan, who you know,
Speaker 1: you've got like eighties six titles. I didn't do anything
Speaker 1: for them, they give me nothing. We'll reach that level
Speaker 1: of stoicism after understanding what any success is just on
Speaker 1: a higher plane you know living it's vision over. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, don't let these losers control you. When they're
Speaker 1: leading losers, You're a winner, Shook you the three, all
Speaker 1: four of us are winners here like sometimes an organization
Speaker 1: is just a bunch of losers, and when they are,
Speaker 1: you recognize that psychologist that's you, Greg Um. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go out here, Shook. Thank you again for being
Speaker 1: our tag team partner here on Sunday nights. You're a
Speaker 1: great value. Add uh to the show, and we'll be
Speaker 1: back on Tuesday with a action packed around the NFL
Speaker 1: podcast breaking down not one but two games, including Chiefs Patriots. Uh.
Speaker 1: The last word I'll give to Al Michaels or I
Speaker 1: should say Chris Collinsworth UM, who said, in response to
Speaker 1: Al saying our buddies Jim Nance and Tony Romo are
Speaker 1: still in Kansas City. Collinsworth replies, so Roman's gonna do
Speaker 1: Monday Night after all, which just slayd Al because Al,
Speaker 1: of course is involved in the Monday Night courtship supposedly
Speaker 1: reportedly uh in the off season. All right, that's it.
Speaker 1: Then has a signing off four Quiet Storm Shook the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual of
Speaker 1: less Well until Tuesday,