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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Here's anything but milktoast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hans is coming to you from a

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Speaker 1: virtual room that is teaming with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? You know

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Speaker 1: what it is? Flagship Time. It's the Flagship Programs Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night where we recap every game that went down in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And perhaps, boys, uh, we should just celebrate

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Speaker 1: the today even happened. And maybe we should start looking

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Speaker 1: at every one of these weeks as a gift because

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Speaker 1: I know, you know, things looked Uh. We had one

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Speaker 1: game moved, um totally off the schedule this week, Steelers Titans.

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Speaker 1: We had Cam Newton testing positive for COVID nineteen, leading

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Speaker 1: to a postponement of Chiefs Patriot. We had drama around

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Speaker 1: the Saints because of a false positive test that led

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Speaker 1: the night last night ahead of a game to be tested. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So this is continues COVID to intrude the landscape in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And it was I mean, it spooked me

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Speaker 1: this weekend and I'm sure, you guys felt the same. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have to worry what's the rest of the season

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Speaker 1: going to be? Like, I mean, I know there's one

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Speaker 1: person celebrating that's Mark Sessler because he wants some sandwiches

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Speaker 1: off of it. But yeah, you do, you do worry

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Speaker 1: about what's coming up. I actually lost sandwiches, Greig. I

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Speaker 1: that's right. Typically, I think in the past I would

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Speaker 1: have gone towards the angle of cancelations and movements, but

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Speaker 1: I tried to um suggest a positive sandwich. That's right.

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Speaker 1: It was west that because you That's what it was,

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Speaker 1: because you were putting us in the position to take

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Speaker 1: the bet and then we would essentially be rooting for

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Speaker 1: a stoppage, right and Dan, you and Greg and you

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Speaker 1: know I could put energy out there, Well you were you.

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Speaker 1: You took a unusually pure um take on it all

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Speaker 1: sort of just I don't believe in that kind of

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Speaker 1: same way I do. I texted you guys, I do

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Speaker 1: think that it probably goes down and I'm not proud

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Speaker 1: of this is one of the more evil um energy

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I when the new when the Saints

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Speaker 1: news hit last night, something in me felt just total darkness.

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Speaker 1: And I'm glad that that situation worked out, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's just a reminder that it's like it's just a

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Speaker 1: dice roll. It just felt like a dice roll going

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Speaker 1: into this weekend. I fight hard against cynicism, and and

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm cynical at all, but I thought,

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Speaker 1: if you can get out of this with only a

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Speaker 1: few canceled football games are postponed games like as much

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Speaker 1: as we've been facing in two thousand and twenty, that's

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Speaker 1: a big win. I mean, unless unless we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds offense, you are not a cynic I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. Well, I mean I believe that that

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Speaker 1: was realism. They they're batting averages to twelve this year.

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Speaker 1: Give me a break. I can't do it, can't have it.

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Speaker 1: I won't have it. All right, So that is the reality,

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Speaker 1: um that this is not something that's going away. Uh,

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Speaker 1: games to talk about on Sunday. So that's what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do here, going through each one, and Mark, I

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Speaker 1: you and I both root for career loser franchises. Um,

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Speaker 1: And I think in all the years that we've done

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Ricky three receivers tight off the line

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Speaker 1: hope for the future. And what's the better what's better

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Speaker 1: to see than the fact that he's making plays with

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Speaker 1: these no namers versus you know, like completely, you know,

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Speaker 1: have to wait a year to find out what he is.

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Speaker 1: It kills them though, because they wanted their defense to

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Speaker 1: carry them and it's just not gonna happen now. They

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Speaker 1: they've just lost too many players. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Bosta was on the injury report, he was totally

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Speaker 1: erased today. The buck Sell line played great today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: give Tristan Worth some credit. He's turned out to be.

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Speaker 1: If four games mean anything, that's a home run draft pick.

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Speaker 1: And justin Herbert was another guy like Josh Allen. I

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Speaker 1: remember we were at the Combine and someone that is

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Speaker 1: very well respected in that game that pre draft game,

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Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I don't like Herbert. He's the

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Speaker 1: only guy don't like. He was very divisive. Sure enough,

443
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Speaker 1: the guy comes out of the gate like a mad bomber.

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Speaker 1: He's been a lot of fun, much looking forward to feel.

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Speaker 1: They've lost every game by one score so far. Very

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Speaker 1: chargers of them all. Right, let's move up. Hand off

447
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Speaker 1: goes inside to look Murray looking for a team touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Latavius Murray. Saints get great push again. Always a good

449
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Speaker 1: sign when you see your card standing up in the

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Speaker 1: end zone and Lottavius Murray puts his pads down and

451
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Speaker 1: just drives a hole through that defense and from six

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Speaker 1: yards out, Lottavius Murray with his second touchdown of the day.

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Speaker 1: Zack Streef with the call w w L Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: Saints rode that COVID nineteen roller coaster this weekend, came

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Speaker 1: out smiling on the other side. Latavius Murray's six yards

456
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Speaker 1: score was the final five consecutive touchdowns for the Saints,

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Speaker 1: who wiped out an early two touchdown deficit and win

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Speaker 1: over the Lions. As I said at the top of

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Speaker 1: the show, Saints bullback Michael Burton had a false positive

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Speaker 1: test for the coronavirus on Saturday, leading to another round

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Speaker 1: of test for players and staff overnight in Detroit. Burton said,

462
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Speaker 1: just a lot of emotions going on, because you never

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Speaker 1: want to be a distraction. They had to wake up

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Speaker 1: other guys and test them, factoring in the background noise,

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Speaker 1: the absence of multiple members of the secondary and of

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Speaker 1: course Michael Thomas. That's a nice win for the Saints,

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Speaker 1: wasn't it, Mr Ceciler. Yeah, I mean it's they overcame

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Speaker 1: a lot. You mentioned it. I think Sean Payton all

469
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Speaker 1: these coaches have to say, you know, this season when

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Speaker 1: it comes to COVID, we just have to not and

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Speaker 1: accept any scenarios. But you know, there used to be

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Speaker 1: the old thing where uh you know, rowdy Dennison's of

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Speaker 1: a town would go pull the fire alarm in the

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Speaker 1: visiting team's hotel. But this this is a whole different

475
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Speaker 1: deal when it's attached to something that could be grave

476
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Speaker 1: or canceled the game in general, and they got down

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Speaker 1: fourteen nothing, and it was a very Lions this game

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Speaker 1: on that front too, because they get down fourteen nothing

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Speaker 1: and at that point in the in the second Lion's

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Speaker 1: touchdown came off a breeze picked or a tipped pass

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Speaker 1: that wound up as an interception. Uh. Then though New

482
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Speaker 1: Orleans minus many starters got on a tear because they

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Speaker 1: went on five straight touchdown drives thirty five unanswered points

484
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Speaker 1: for they weren't quirky either. Four of those drives went

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Speaker 1: for more than seventy five yards. And we all get

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Speaker 1: where Drew Brees is at at this point, and he's

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Speaker 1: still to me as a little bit of a thousand

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Speaker 1: yards stare where I think he kind of gets where

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Speaker 1: he's at two. But he was more effective in this game.

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Speaker 1: He he looked different than he had in weeks past.

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Speaker 1: He was deadly accurate on intermediate routes. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: next Gen Stats had him at let me find it here. Well,

493
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Speaker 1: next Gen Stats liked what he did on intermediate routes

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Speaker 1: that he was really good. Um, I will football, he

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Speaker 1: was really good, but it's you know. What was good

496
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Speaker 1: to see was like Emmanuel Sanders stepping up. Tray Kwon Smith,

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Speaker 1: who looked like he was going to get knocked out

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Speaker 1: of the game with an injury at one point, made

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Speaker 1: some great catches in this so they got enough from

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Speaker 1: justin just the right people. Alvin Kamara helped him out.

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Speaker 1: This game also was a score of Gami, which is

502
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Speaker 1: one of those um unique NFL scores that have never

503
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Speaker 1: occurred before, and that is the fifth and fifty seven

504
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Speaker 1: scoring combination in the NFL that kind of stuff. I like,

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Speaker 1: um As for the Lions, they looked the same to

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Speaker 1: me on offense every week. It's like you're leaning on

507
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Speaker 1: like Adrian Peterson is still good, okay, but like this

508
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Speaker 1: offense there's no offense should be centered around Adrian Peterson

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Speaker 1: right now. And they get a few plays from Kenny

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Speaker 1: Golladay and they they're trying to you know, t J.

511
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Speaker 1: Hockenson is becoming a little bit of a thing. But

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, come on, dude, I mean, like this is

513
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Speaker 1: the same thing every week. You get up by double digits,

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Speaker 1: you get you let it all go. And I mean

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Speaker 1: this this was right for the Picking had they just

516
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Speaker 1: you know, hung on, hung onto it. And the Saints

517
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Speaker 1: were a little they were they were they just had

518
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Speaker 1: to be better coached, they lean on better depth, and

519
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: they came up in a game where there would have

520
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Speaker 1: been all the excuses to crumble here you could have

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Speaker 1: pointed to eight or nine different things, and they come

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Speaker 1: out with the win. I mean, they've lost the lines

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Speaker 1: of lass sixth straight leading by double digits. There's there's

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Speaker 1: obviously maybe this shouldn't be obvious, but there's never been

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Speaker 1: an NFL team to do that. I mean that it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's outrageous. They're heading into a bye week. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned the Bucks scored four touch duns in a row.

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Speaker 1: You said the Saints did five a row. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a new forward owning the team

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Speaker 1: right now. You don't know if she's gonna jump in

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Speaker 1: and and want to make a big splash in week four.

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Speaker 1: What's what's really the point? But it's ugly. I think

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Speaker 1: Camara is back to being the number one running back

534
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Speaker 1: in the league, and I don't even know if he

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Speaker 1: looks great. Well, you've embraced Mark fantasy in a way

536
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Speaker 1: that none of us could have expected this year. So

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know that he is lapped the field

538
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Speaker 1: against other running backs in terms of fantasy scoring because

539
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Speaker 1: he is, especially with Michael Thomas out of the lineup,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully that won't be too much longer. Now he

541
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Speaker 1: seems to be on track to play this week, and

542
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Speaker 1: then over the weekend he was ruled out, but he

543
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Speaker 1: has been a major part of the passing game, and

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Speaker 1: I you know, we'll see, we'll see where they are

545
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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. But lest I know,

546
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Speaker 1: you've been very big on Drew Brees and the arm

547
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: strength and and all that. But am I gonna be

548
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Speaker 1: stunned if they end up as a top ten offense

549
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Speaker 1: according to various metrics. I won't be. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: end up top ten to me. To me, they'll be

551
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Speaker 1: top ten. But then in big moments against a better defense,

552
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Speaker 1: are you? We know the quarterbacks limited he has been

553
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Speaker 1: for a couple of years. This offense goes through Camara

554
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Speaker 1: and Thomas, not the quarterback. I would love to have

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Speaker 1: a great regular season offense. The route for you, It's

556
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Speaker 1: like last year they lost Breeze and Teddy came in

557
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Speaker 1: and he was Teddy and they showed again at the

558
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Speaker 1: very resilient they can win with depth and backups. But

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Speaker 1: now they look kind of like the Teddy Bridgewater offense

560
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Speaker 1: with Drew Brees at quarterback. To me, big win, let's

561
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Speaker 1: move rivers Field throws the Molalle Cox ferrels forward across

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Speaker 1: the goal line, touchdown mo Alee Cox Matt Taylor w

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Speaker 1: f N I with the call. Moley Cox is having

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Speaker 1: a breakout season with the big score. Julian Blackman's interception

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Speaker 1: Nick Foless a killer for the Bears. Quarterback. We struggled

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Speaker 1: to move the offense and his first start since replacing

567
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Speaker 1: Mitch Drabinski, if I will score nineteen to eleven Coults

568
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: over the Bears a soldier field. West Indie has been

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Speaker 1: winning with their defense so far this season. More of

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Speaker 1: the same on Sunday, it looks like, well, I think

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Speaker 1: they're you know how the Cowboys struggled at all three

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Speaker 1: levels of their defense. I think the Colts really do

573
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Speaker 1: well at all three levels. DeForest Buckner had another dominant game.

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Speaker 1: Darius Leonard got injured, but he's been there at linebacker,

575
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Speaker 1: Justin Houston at linebacker. And then this Julian Blackman if

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Speaker 1: they drafted in a third round, came in from Malik

577
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Speaker 1: Hooker uh in Week two and has been an upgrade.

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Speaker 1: He this guy is a natural ball hawk. Uh. He

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Speaker 1: and Xavier Rhodes both playing great in the secondary. And

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Speaker 1: if a team like the Steelers is sort of like

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Speaker 1: sharks with chum in the water, I think the Colts

582
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Speaker 1: defense is more like a constrictor, like a like a python.

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Speaker 1: They just suffocate you, They squeeze the life out of you.

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Speaker 1: And they did it again today. And if you know

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Speaker 1: um Full said this week, Frank Reich is the guy

586
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Speaker 1: who made him a player. It reminded me sort of

587
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: like an old school dad saying I brought you into

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Speaker 1: this world and I'll take you out too, because Frank's

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Speaker 1: defense knew how to stop Nick Foles well. And on

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Speaker 1: the Front West it was Blackman who said that Frank

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Speaker 1: Reich prepared their defense so well for fools, so in it,

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Speaker 1: you know it bit them too, and it's just, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think this This game also squeezed the

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Speaker 1: life out of some viewers. According to Dan, some reaction

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, I said on Twitter that one day I'll

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Speaker 1: tell my grandchildren that this game was the most boring

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Speaker 1: board I ever was. I couldn't I had it on

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Speaker 1: my secondary screen. And apparently we're gonna get to a

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Speaker 1: game later that a lot of people are coming back

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Speaker 1: with saying even worse. But then it led to kind

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Speaker 1: of a fun thread where people started sending me some

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Speaker 1: box scores of other super boring going back years. Everybody

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Speaker 1: has them. Uh they stick to your mind when they're

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Speaker 1: truly wretchedly boring for whatever reason, and this one was

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Speaker 1: that way for me. Cults have been boring for three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Winning boring, I guess that that's fine, They're gonna play

607
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Speaker 1: some real offenses. These are two of the only teams

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Speaker 1: in the league where I think you can look at

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Speaker 1: and say, like, oh, they have defenses. Like I it

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Speaker 1: feels like there's only like six or seven defenses at most,

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Speaker 1: and these are two of them. But is there West

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Speaker 1: you watch? What's your level of panic um with t

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Speaker 1: Y Hilton? Because t Y Hilton's he said that he

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Speaker 1: retired three weeks ago. I thought he actually played really

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Speaker 1: well today. Uh, he had one he came down with.

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Speaker 1: I think he I think he brought another penalty um,

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Speaker 1: but he I thought he played well today. But I

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00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: did identify the Colts fatal flaw this year. What is it?

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Speaker 1: It's the red zone offense. And if you look at

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Speaker 1: look at the pickles at Josh Allen puts defenses in

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Speaker 1: in the red zone the way he can take a

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Speaker 1: quarterback draw, he can take a roll out. Um, he

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Speaker 1: can squeeze passes in the tight windows. How many of

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Speaker 1: those things and Philip rivers do He can't beat you

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Speaker 1: with his legs and he can't squeeze passes in the

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Speaker 1: tight windows. So what does that leave you in the

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Speaker 1: red zone? This is a struggling offense down there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, what uh do you say to the red

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Speaker 1: zone struggles that your team is faced? Does it bother

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Speaker 1: you though? Oh yeah, I get it. I feel that.

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Speaker 1: I feel it. Man. There was one play West I

632
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Speaker 1: tweeted about it and then you replied. And whenever West

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Speaker 1: replies to something I tweet from an analysis standpoint and

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Speaker 1: he agrees with me, I feel good about it. Um

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Speaker 1: it was they were in the red zone and you know,

636
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Speaker 1: the pocket collapse, no one's open, he goes to escape.

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Speaker 1: He's so slow. Oh my god, I mean he is.

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Speaker 1: I would think that Brady might even be faster than

639
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Speaker 1: like late period Eli Mannings got him beat. He just

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Speaker 1: moves in slow motion, so there's no adding extra, you know,

641
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: stealing yards and turning. You know, Josh Allen type theatrics

642
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: out on the Colts offense. It need to be more precise.

643
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: We have a term for that. And I think Joe

644
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: Bacco helped us get there, which is stone age pony.

645
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: And I mean Rivers can still do some some things well,

646
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: but you know, dancing around nimbly is not one of those.

647
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, he was one of the slowest quarterbacks. I

648
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: think um the day he entered the league. And he's

649
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: been playing in the and and and at no. I

650
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: think he's maybe been the slowest quarterback in the league

651
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: the whole time he's been in it. And now it's

652
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: sixteen years in. That's it's not gonna be any faster.

653
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: It's like David Ortiz trying to score from first on

654
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: a double in two thousand seventeen. At a certain point,

655
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: it almost becomes a story when someone gets that slow.

656
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: But it's fun. It's fun. It makes us relate to

657
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: the men. You know, sometimes West trying to score from

658
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: first on the shield. You know, we were popping hamstrings

659
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: trying to get around the basis, snapping like dry twigs.

660
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Jackson will keep it on

661
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: the read option. He's got a whole forty Like Grace,

662
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to a dead stand for like four years,

663
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: and then you run to first base. Sometimes your leg implodes.

664
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: She really wanted that back, all right. That was Jerry

665
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Sandusky with the called w B A l Lamar. Jackson

666
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: ran for a fifty yard touchdown his career, along which

667
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: surprised me. I thought he might have had like a

668
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: ninety nine yarder in there at some point since he

669
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: was a rookie, and he threw for two scores as well.

670
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: And a bounced back performance by the reigning NFL m

671
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: v P and the Ravens as a whole. They take

672
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: control early against the Washington football team and coach to

673
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: a seventeen win coming off a humbling loss obviously to

674
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City on Monday night. But this Baltimore team, this

675
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: is the team that does massive damage during the regular season.

676
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: You could see it, like you can see how they

677
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: they're sphincters tightened up on Monday night. But when things

678
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: go in the opposite way, they play so loose and

679
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: they play so confidently. Uh that do you understand why

680
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: things go right for them? You know like Sam conscious

681
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: Jean yard completion on fourth and nine on a fake

682
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: punt throw, Like I don't think John Harborough had the

683
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: onions to pull that on Monday night. I thought that

684
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: they were tight as a team. But when you're playing Washington,

685
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: this is when the Ravens look absolutely impossible to to

686
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 1: be I will say that. Uh, the defense, you would

687
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: have thought they would absolutely have their way with Dwayne Haskins,

688
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: but that wasn't quite the case. Haskins actually through for

689
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: a career high three fourteen yards, but a lot of

690
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: it was checkdowns and Antonio Gibson doing the hard work

691
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,959
Speaker 1: for Haskins, and a deep ball late in garbage time

692
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: west to your boy the star wide receiver whose name

693
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting scary Terry McLaurin. Um, So don't put too

694
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: much stock into the yardage by Washington. They weren't competitive,

695
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: and there was one play in particular, UM a fourth

696
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: and goal early in the fourth quarter. It's a two

697
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: score game where Haskins locks on a guy in the

698
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: flat uh and throws about nine yards short of the

699
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: end zone and uh the guy gets pushed out of

700
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: bounds because three guys were converging on him as he

701
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: caught the ball and they cut as as CBS or

702
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: as fox goes to break or CBS. It was. You

703
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: see Ron Rivera turn his back to the camera and

704
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: just like stalk back to the bench. And I don't

705
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: know he could have been doing or saying any number

706
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: of things, but I'm wondering if what's going on in

707
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: his head is like this guy doesn't even know that

708
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: he needs to throw to the end zone on this play.

709
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: The game's over after that play, or there were reports

710
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: before the game that they were. Ian Rappaport reported they

711
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 1: were gonna pull Haskins if he struggled, and he opened

712
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: with a punt, a turnover in the punt, So I

713
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: wonder how close they came to yanking him before they

714
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: missed a field goal and then scored, you know, then

715
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: they then he picked it up a little bit. But yeah,

716
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: the turnover, it wasn't on him. The turnover was a

717
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: forced fumble by Marlon Humphreys that led to a touchdown.

718
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, Haskins, it was like a c performance that

719
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: probably will keep him in the lineup. But again, you know,

720
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that situation. It's tough for the

721
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Ravens because you compare them to last year. And I'm

722
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: happy um to hear you say, Dan, you thought it

723
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: was dominant, because I looked at this starting the game

724
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: and and I just I'm comparing it to this team

725
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: that was historic, and I think, wow, you you come

726
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: out against Washington, you punt two of the first three

727
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: possessions and then you need a fake punt to score

728
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: on the next one, and Lamar's thrown an interception right

729
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: before halftime, and the yardage is pretty close, you know, throughout,

730
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: and it's almost unfair because you're comparing them to that offense.

731
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: But like last year, it feels like in this game

732
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: they go forty five on you you know, probably think,

733
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it was dominant in the sense of like

734
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: this game was never in doubt and they took care

735
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: of business. But this wasn't the type of Ravens performance

736
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: became accustomed to last year. That's fair any other questions

737
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: about this game. I don't know what's going to happen

738
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation, but that was a get right game

739
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson and uh I, whom they will continue

740
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: to get right next week against. It's so weird that

741
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Washington's tied for you know it pending the result of

742
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game. We taped this a little earlier.

743
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: It's like Washington's, you know, right in the mix. I mean,

744
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: that's you know, one and three. Someone's gonna win the division.

745
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: Going five and eleven, maybe they'll still be in the mix,

746
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, in December, but I'm just kidding. Its ugly.

747
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: By the way, the Ravens lead the NFL and points

748
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: off turnovers the season with thirty eight, so they do that.

749
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: They still do a bunch of things. Well, I think

750
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: it was a bump in the road on Monday night,

751
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: and it's one that could cost them, as we talked

752
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: about with playoff positioning. But they'll continue to beat up

753
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: all these teams that are beneath them. The Ravens are

754
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna be Okay, let's move on. If a runner went

755
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: to the ground, the ball hit the ground and moved,

756
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: thank you for an incomplete path. Thank you, first down

757
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: ball bites are in the win column. That's the best

758
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: we could do on the for the call here, I

759
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: heard it. That was it. I mean, that was the game.

760
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: That was the type of ending that the Vikings got.

761
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to enhance the vetting process

762
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: starting in week five and these calls, I mean, that's

763
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: this is what type of game it was. Paul Allen

764
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: with the call for k f A and Mike Zimmer's

765
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: struggling d got to stop it needed as you just heard,

766
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: and Dalvin Cook ran for a hundred and thirty yards

767
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns for the Vikings, who beat the Texans

768
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: thirty one to three. Greg The road killed game has

769
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: produced the expected result, one team lives to fight another day,

770
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: and one team, the one coached by Bill O'Brien, is

771
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: headed to the NFL's equivalent of the Pet Cemetery. They

772
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: are in a division where the culture three and one,

773
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: the Titans are three and oh you know, the Texans

774
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: are oh and four, and the Dolphins have their first

775
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: two picks next year. And I thought that call was perfect, Dan,

776
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna argue for it because neither team left this

777
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: I think feeling so good. I mean the call. The

778
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: game ended on an overturned call of Will Fuller in

779
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: the end zone. David Johnson was half a yard short

780
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: of of time of you know, giving them the Texans

781
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: a chance to go for a two point conversion. What

782
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: would have been a big time collapsed by the Vikings defense.

783
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: They have the ball half a yard short on second down,

784
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: then Johnson fumbles it on a pitch uh, And they

785
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: eventually get it to Fuller, who you think maybe was

786
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna like make an amazing play, and they overturn it

787
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: on review. And it's just like that reaction to me

788
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: from the Vikings is almost perfect because it's like, well,

789
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: we gotta win, you know. That's that's it. That's all

790
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: we got. West is giving me the thumbs down the

791
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: whole sequence. You know, it's your point, Craig Like, there's

792
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: a friend of mine named Eric who is a longtime

793
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: listener to this show. He listens to every episode and

794
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: he's a Vikings hardcore fan, and he said, here is

795
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: my takeaway from the game that Mike Zimmer and Gary

796
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: coop back should be in totally hot water. Despite the win,

797
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: that feels like it's floated. Well, I mean, you know

798
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: we're looking at the season on whole, but that this

799
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: is this is a team headed in the wrong direction

800
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: no matter what happened today against a lost Texans team,

801
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: well defensively, defensively, it's absolutely true, and I don't know

802
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: if they're gonna be able to fix it. Daniel Hunter

803
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: might be out half the season. We'll see. Offensively, I

804
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: think they have a lot to be excited about the

805
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: last two weeks. Their offense has played very well um

806
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, especially today today it was even better.

807
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins had a really good day justin Jefferson. They

808
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: found something. I know. It doesn't feel like the Stefon

809
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: Diggs trade was a win win, but you did get

810
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: a bunch of picks, a lot of picks, and you

811
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: drafted Justin Jefferson, and man, he looked awesome today. Uh,

812
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is running, you know. I know Alvin Kamara

813
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: has been the best running back, but the last two weeks,

814
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook has broken a tackle almost every single run.

815
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: And that zone running scheme that Kubiak is, you know,

816
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: brought to bring in, it's taken hold because they're running

817
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: against eight man boxes and it's the angles that they're

818
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: running is are beating those boxes. So I think their

819
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: offense has some good things to feel good about, but

820
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: but the defense probably is not gonna like allow them

821
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Check out this um this Viking

822
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: upcoming schedule. I'll see what's going on at Seattle on

823
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: Sunday night next week. Tough Spots home versus Falcons at

824
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay Home versus Lions at Bears. Okay, I mean

825
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: they're probably to figure out a way to go. Gotta

826
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: beat the Packers, and you gotta beat the Packers and

827
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: Bears and or else, h you're in trouble. That that ending,

828
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: though it was unfortunate. Deshaun Watson cooked in the second half,

829
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: but he but he really struggled in the first But

830
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: I just want to point out how bad this Texans

831
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 1: defense is. They don't have a turnover this year, and

832
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: they're just like fatally they don't have a turnover. I

833
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: don't know if J. J. Watts hurt um. He was

834
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: on the injury report earlier this season, but he wasn't

835
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: this week. He hasn't played every snap like he normally does,

836
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: and he certainly you know, hasn't made big plays. But

837
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: they're so slow. This is such a slow defense, and

838
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: and you have two inside linebackers playing every down, Zach

839
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: Cunningham can't cover and Bernardrick McKinney. They're one of the

840
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: worst rush defenses, if not the worst in the league,

841
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: and they just are beating them to the outside. They're

842
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: just so slow, and so it just feels like a

843
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: fatal construction of this up. They're up through the slow years.

844
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: Well they're gonna cut, Yeah, they're gonna cut McKinney, I

845
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: think after this year. But I don't see how this

846
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: defense figures it out. It's just it's ugly. Who don't

847
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: try to convince me to start believing in the Vikings

848
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: this season. I'm just not gonna do. No, I was wrong.

849
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 1: I wasn't going there. I was just defending Kobayat because

850
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: I think you can absolutely see um some good things

851
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: about their offense the last two weeks. That's all. But

852
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: the team does not look great. T Y Hilton, J. J.

853
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: Watt A J. Green Superstar club is gonna have to

854
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: make some painful decisions. You know what started the season

855
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I'm I'm I'm leaving some room here.

856
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: But the last two weeks have been tough. All right,

857
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: Let's move up. Jones has his Giants at the long,

858
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: has his snap steps up right at the twenty. He

859
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: fires to the five. It is intercepted Darius Williams a

860
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: diving interception the clinch. It's with fifty two seconds remainings.

861
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: He had the diving pick in Philadelphia in the end zone,

862
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: and here AT's so Fi Stadium he does it again.

863
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: There he is elite mench There you go, Greg J. B.

864
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Long KSPN with the call. Big interception there of Danny

865
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: Dimes and Jared Goff hit Cooper Cup earlier in quarter

866
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: on a fifty five yard touchdown that allowed the Rams

867
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 1: to grind it out nine over the Giants and Mark.

868
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: The only thing that people are ever going to remember

869
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: about this game is the Jalen Ramsey Golden Tate brawl

870
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: post game. It's the only thing anybody's gonna talk about

871
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: because it's highly salacious, it's a family matter, and it's

872
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: spilled out into the public forum on Sunday. Yeah, and

873
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: it's you can go look up what the family matter

874
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: is if you if you'd like, Um, so I'll tell you.

875
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: How about I'll tell you we're gonna be basically Golden Tate.

876
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: I can't even dignify bringing it because that's coming because

877
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: we were told by emails. No, we were told by

878
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: email not to dig into it. But like, I'm sure

879
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: no one's listened to this thing. So basically, like Golden

880
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: Tates sister was with Jalen Ramsey and when she was

881
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: Mark spilling tea right now, well, probably I won't be

882
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: on the show anymore. It's like because we you know,

883
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: we we can't possibly follow the rules of NFL dot com.

884
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: But there was an issue between these two because Jalen

885
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: Ramsey basically walked away from Golden Tates sister while she

886
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: was pregnant to be with what they're describing as a

887
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Las Vegas dancer. I don't I don't think that means

888
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: like a you know, up on stage like a girl. Yeah,

889
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: and let think it's probably more in that world. But

890
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: beyond that, um, they've had bad blood for it's been

891
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: going on for a while. They have not encountered each

892
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: other on the field. Today they did. And it's interesting

893
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: that the play of the game, because Dan, this is

894
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: probably the game that many people were writing to you

895
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: saying this was the most boring game people have witnessed.

896
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know in the league, officers are thinking,

897
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: how special that we finally get to have Los Angeles

898
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: and New York are two special markets clash on in

899
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: a four o'clock spot, and it was making people's eyes bleed.

900
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: So you know, like, actually, it's New Jersey enough, we

901
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: get it, Western New York. You're the only New York

902
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: team on Twitter. We get this. The Rams were in

903
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: an absolute stupor and it was ten to nine with

904
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: about ten minutes to go, and the Giants were basically

905
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: they were they were looking better on the ground than

906
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and they were moving the ball and that

907
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: is when Jalen Ramsey slam Golden Tate down on a

908
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: third down catch that basically gave Golf and the offense

909
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: one more shot to kind of turn this thing around.

910
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: And that's when the Cooper Cup catch happened, and you know,

911
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: then the Rams had another chance to come out and

912
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: they had a three and oh, so like they never

913
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: really got it together, and I kind of look at

914
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: I don't even it doesn't really change what I think

915
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: about the Rams that much, because I think the good

916
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: teams are gonna have one of these games a year

917
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: where it's like, you just they were in a total

918
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: funk the entire time. These teams were bickering the whole time,

919
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: though Aaron Donald got into a fight with someone, there

920
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: were stuff on the sideline. Then this thing erupted at

921
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: the end. So I wonder if it's just it was

922
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: a really ugly, ugly game and one where if you're

923
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: the Rams, i'd want to see why that was. But

924
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take too much out of it other than

925
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: the fact that I would always be suspicious when like

926
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: on our show on on Thursday, we all kind of

927
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: like ticket did this as a Rams blowout. And then

928
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: on Friday, I was watching some shows in the in

929
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: the predictions for the Rams blowouts were getting bigger and bigger,

930
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: like they're just gonna take New York out thirty eight

931
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: to seven seven, Like then we know it's not gonna happen,

932
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: and it didn't in the Giants, like their defense for

933
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: the fact that I would imagine most people couldn't name

934
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: three people on that defense. They were frisky in this game,

935
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: and you can kind of see the makings of something

936
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: happening on that side of the ball. But the offense

937
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: lacks any direction right now. I mean, they're just it's

938
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: they're a messy team. I am obviously from New York

939
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: and many of my friends growing up are Giants fans.

940
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: And there has been a sea change on text around

941
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes very quickly. Uh. They're starting to turn on

942
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: the young passer and in general on the Giants and

943
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman and and they're getting psyched up about the

944
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: idea of Trevor Lawrence and being in that hunt tank

945
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: for Trevor. Uh it is you know, if you take

946
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: out that first half of Week one on Monday night, uh,

947
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: and you actually go all the way through and midway

948
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: through the third quarter against the Steelers where he had

949
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: that nine yard drive that ended with the interception. From

950
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: that interception on Jones has been kind of a mess,

951
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: and that is that's probably the final nail in the

952
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: coffin of that. If you go watch this game, and

953
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: there were times Jared Goff didn't look well today because

954
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: he was not well protected, and so you know, it's systemic.

955
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: It's what's around him, and you've lost se Kwan Barkley,

956
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: the heart and soul of your offense. And you know,

957
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: Jones creates a lot of his own problems. We know that,

958
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: but there were there were certain plays where like everything

959
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: was crumbling around him, and it's like young quarterbacks typically

960
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: are not going to survive in that atmosphere to to

961
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: begin with. That's I thought, Dan, that was a harsh assessment.

962
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: And I think the the offense has been crumbling around

963
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: him the entire season. The offensive line has been terrible,

964
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: historically bad rushing attack. Um, they only moved the ball

965
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: the previous week on design quarterback runs. I mean it

966
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: was he's got a lot on his plate. I I

967
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: do think it's been crumbin around him, but it's it's

968
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they less yards and uh, you know the

969
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: Cowboys had these two teams. I mean, the Rams had

970
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: two yards. That's one of the most surprising things, uh

971
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: of the week. But I'm with you, market. I think

972
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: when with these seasons in general with the NFL, it's like, okay,

973
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: one week, you just give them Mulligan two weeks as

974
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: a trend, and then and then you see what's happening.

975
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: They're they're three and one. They they these NFC West

976
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: teams and we're gonna get to one that hasn't done

977
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: a good job of it. They have favorable out of

978
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: division schedule, so they have to take advantage when they're

979
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: playing the cream Puffs. Uh. And you know they did

980
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: it enough today. Let's check in with another undefeated team

981
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: in our league. And Rush Russell looks right side, got

982
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: him out of the hands of reaching up making me catch.

983
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: David Moore? Is he in for the touchdown? Here's David Moore?

984
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: Are men? David Moore is another guy they have. That's

985
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Steve rabel k I r O with the call. He

986
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: had three catches for ninety five yards, including that game

987
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: clinching touchdown for the Seahawks and a thirty one to

988
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: twenty three win over the Dolphins. And this game was

989
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: closer than the Desert anticipated uh, but not for the

990
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: reasons that I thought it would be a close game too.

991
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: We talked about it on Thursday, but I thought it'd

992
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: be more of a high scoring game with Seattle's defense

993
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: continuing to struggle. But there was progress for Seattle's defense

994
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: in this game. Uh. They delivered a much better performance here.

995
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: They actually kept Miami out of the end zone until

996
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: the game's final minutes, which made the score uh look closer.

997
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: But this was I believe a seventeen fifteen or seventeen

998
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: sixteen Seattle lead in the fourth quarter before they pulled away. Um.

999
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: So the Seahawks will take anything positive around their defense

1000
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: right now because they're essentially just like the Cowboys are

1001
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: a great offense with a horrific defense, and they're one

1002
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: in three. Seahawks maybe aren't as bad on defense as

1003
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: Dallas has been. They've had some better moments, but they

1004
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: have they have a similar problem where they're fantastic on offense,

1005
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: can't get stops on defense. But they were better today

1006
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: and their four and o now for the second time

1007
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: ever in their season, and Russell Wilson is matching Peyton

1008
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: Manning's touchdown record pace through the first four games of

1009
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: the season. What do you have to hold on too?

1010
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: If you're a Dolphins fan, you think right now not

1011
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: to go negative, but well, I like Florris, but I don't.

1012
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: I just don't know what it is this team. It

1013
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: just feels like a It feels like a second straight

1014
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: transition year. I guess. Yeah. I was thinking about that

1015
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: after the game, because especially when you talk about the

1016
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: quarterback position, because Fitzpatrick has been good on balance. Again,

1017
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: he's steady, he's fun to watch. He has his up moments,

1018
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: he has his down to moments. He's Ryan Fitzpatrick. But

1019
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: you're one in three. If if TWA is healthy, wouldn't

1020
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: you at this start to begin thinking about the process

1021
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: of turning it over and beginning to evaluate him and

1022
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: kind of officially start this next era of Dolphins football.

1023
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe the hip injury that's suffered in college.

1024
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: I know he's cleared and all that, and I think

1025
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: he was the backup quarterback on Sunday, which is a

1026
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: sign again they believe that he's healthy. You just wonder,

1027
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: even though Ryan Fitzpatrick has been Ryan Fitzpatrick, whether they're

1028
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: getting closer to that decision. Yeah, I've wondered if they

1029
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: were waiting to see let Ryan Fitzpatrick play to see

1030
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: how good the rest of the team was and whether

1031
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: it's worth rushing him in there behind you know, probably

1032
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: the rawest offensive line there is, UM, but they've outperformed expectations.

1033
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I think up front. Yeah, the defense they want to get.

1034
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, they have a lot of young players and defense,

1035
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: a lot of free agent additions, so I think they're

1036
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: they're hoping that they improve as the season goes along,

1037
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: but they're they're not there yet. I mean the Sea

1038
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: I just look at the Seahawks being four now and

1039
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: you think of who's undefeated in the NFC, and it's

1040
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: just like, wow, this this NFC playoffs is gonna be

1041
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: I know it's a little early for this, but it's

1042
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: just kind of amazing to think that the playoffs could

1043
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: be Rogers, Russ, Brady Breeze, Um, you know mcveigh's maybe

1044
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe he gets back in there or whatever. It's just

1045
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks, it's outrageous. I like the idea of

1046
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: like the the top heavy Seahawks, you know, getting a

1047
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: top seed. Yeah, we were I know we're not allowed

1048
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: to talk MVP talk on the show, Greg, you've decided that,

1049
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: but the quarter poll, you can at least like do

1050
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: the m v P of the quarter. How about the

1051
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: Well I was gonna talk about, you know, the all

1052
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: pro call that I made with Aaron Rodgers, which I

1053
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: feel good about. But then you look at like, what

1054
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: else is going on? How many guys get all pro

1055
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: to right too? Okay, so you have what Dak Prescott's doing,

1056
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: you have what Russell Wilson's doing, you have what Josh

1057
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: Allen's doing. I mean, even a great season by Aaron Rodgers.

1058
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: There's some truly badass that would be fourth right now,

1059
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: which is crazy. He would not. I think that the

1060
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: other three would would be votes. Doc would be fourth

1061
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: out of that group, but I think he would be

1062
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: thrown for seven thousand yards. Well, I'm just saying that

1063
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: you had to vote today. If they had to vote today,

1064
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: I think that's what would happen. Yeah, I don't think

1065
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: that's the top four m VP guy. Um, And good

1066
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: to see Chris Carson out there, by the way, he

1067
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: was a game time decision after he got his knee twisted.

1068
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: He actually scored twice average five yards of carry, so

1069
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: that's also good news. Uh. And We'll see Seahawks get

1070
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams back next week and start to get healthier

1071
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: and can turn this into a trend that the defense

1072
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: is on the up swing. Good battle by the Dolphins,

1073
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: but not good enough. All right, are we bringing on

1074
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: our friend Nick Shook? Now? Is at that time of

1075
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: the show. It's time for the handoff too, handsome bald whites.

1076
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: Only one can stay on the show though one must arrive,

1077
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: then one must leave zero some game with our handsome

1078
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: bald whites. Yeah, Chuck looking fresh, the beard is looking

1079
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: well cut. No, I like it alright. Bathtime for me.

1080
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: We'll see like a little game. Bath time. He's gonna

1081
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: light some candles, burn some incense, and take a bath.

1082
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: I never I haven't taken a bath since I was

1083
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: a child, because I find the idea of a bath repulsive,

1084
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: Like it's you're basically going there to cleanse yourself, but

1085
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: you're bathing in your own filth. You gotta you wash

1086
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: yourself first and then you fill up the bat How

1087
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: many people would wash the bath first because it's also

1088
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: other people's feet, and you know people taking a lot

1089
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: of baths. Greg, I mean that's what you do, You

1090
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: wash yourself first and then you fill it up. That's

1091
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: the move. Well I like that. I can't even I've

1092
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: gotten it's got increasing the words for me where I'm

1093
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: not really going in too many public pools either. I

1094
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: think about it too much. Maybe it's having kids and

1095
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: you realize just how gross uh younger humans are and

1096
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: then half the older humans the hygiene is probably not

1097
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: where it needs to be. Chuck, where are you on

1098
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: this before we get into the next gun. I mean,

1099
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that's just a waste of um water

1100
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: and in a long process. I mean, if you're out

1101
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: to really relax, I guess you do that. I will

1102
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: say my grandparents live out in rural Ohio and they

1103
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: built their house. I think like when I was an

1104
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: infant or whatever, and part of the house construction was

1105
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: this really nice bathtub with jets in it, and that

1106
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: is an experience that is worth taking a bath. But

1107
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: if we're here strictly to efficiently clean yourself and you've

1108
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: got other stuff to do, baths out of the equation,

1109
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: of course, not right. I mean, I think West is

1110
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: doing it for instance, not He's not like I must

1111
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: clean my body. He's doing it for the for the

1112
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: sensation of being in warm water, which essentially takes us

1113
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: back to the room, which Greg's excuse for his daily back.

1114
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: I don't take any actually at my house because it's

1115
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: too small. Um, but I've taken Yeah, I'm just saying

1116
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: that's that's the move. Um. And West doesn't and watch

1117
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: his game pass, which is next level. He puts on

1118
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: like he's getting justin Herbert out there, maybe a bottle

1119
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: of conditioner nearby, and he's going to town. And then

1120
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: the other thing is get too excited. This is also,

1121
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, factored in my thoughts on it. When you

1122
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: have two young sons and they share a bath together

1123
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like, oh, Harry, did you did you

1124
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: use the party before you got And he's like, no,

1125
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: you know what happened. They don't care. These kids don't care.

1126
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: All right, choke, thank you for joining us. We got

1127
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: you set up with a couple of games here before

1128
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: Sunday night football. So let's dig in now. Borrow will

1129
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: line up in the shotgun, even though it's third and

1130
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: less than a yard. He'll hand it to Mixing the

1131
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: Touchdown Show Mixing and the Bengals his third of the day.

1132
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Dan Dan Poor, Dann Poor or is it board Joe Mixon.

1133
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: He spent part of his weekend in the hospital mysterious

1134
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: chest pains, but he looks fine. On Sunday Restaurant hundred

1135
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: fifty one yards carriage with two touchdowns, had another touchdown

1136
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: on a swim pass reception from Joe burrowin over the

1137
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: Jaguars shook. That was the first win of Burrow's career.

1138
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: But the story here is Joe Mixon breakat performance. So

1139
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: for the entire season up to this week, the Bengals

1140
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: had inexplicably gone away from Joe Mixon and it didn't

1141
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: make any sense, especially with the rookie quarterback. What are

1142
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: the two things he you have a rookie quarterback to

1143
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: try to make him feel comfortab especially when you don't

1144
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: have a good offensive line. One is a titan and

1145
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: you can rely on. Two is a reliable running games

1146
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have to drop back fifty times a game,

1147
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: which is what the Bengals primarily did for the first

1148
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: three weeks. Then around halftime today it's like somebody went

1149
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: down to the sideline of Paul Brown Stadium grab Zach

1150
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: Taylor by the shirt. Social distancing totally violated him around

1151
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: twice and said, hey, you got Joe Mixon on your roster,

1152
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: give him the football. So he did. Times one carries

1153
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. The first touchdown kind of serving is the

1154
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: score that broke through the wall for the Bengals, I

1155
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: think through this season because far too often, and especially

1156
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: in the first half Sunday, their offense just ran into

1157
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: these issues and they got down on the red zone.

1158
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: It just felt a little constrained. It's almost like they

1159
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: tried to do too much. And then they said, all right, well,

1160
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: let's hand the ball to Joe Mixon, let's dump it

1161
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: off to him, Let's figure out way to get him

1162
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: the football. He scores on the right side, takes a

1163
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: shot after he scores, and it was like, oh, we

1164
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: forgot we had this guy. Look what he can do.

1165
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: And they wrote him the rest of the way to

1166
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: a Big three. And what this game really looked like

1167
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: before that point was very much what last week's game

1168
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: that ended in a tie with the Eagles look like.

1169
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: Then they scored with mixing and it's like they just

1170
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: opened the floodgates or just opened their own expectations or

1171
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: understanding of reality that hey, we can score the floor.

1172
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: You know, we can score I hate score the football

1173
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: or score the basketball, by the way, even though I

1174
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: almost just said that, uh, and we can win a game.

1175
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: And they won a game, so you know, good for them,

1176
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: and finally realizing that they have a good running back

1177
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: in their team. But always the go ahead, Greg, no

1178
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: you go. I wunna say. Burrows the first player in

1179
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: NFL history that to open his career with with three

1180
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: straight like with multiple three yard games like this, And

1181
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he just seems like he looks the part.

1182
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: And it's been a terrible situation for him. I mean,

1183
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: he's been under darrest NonStop. And I'm totally with you

1184
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: that they should have used mixing more than they have.

1185
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: But I mean it's like record aside some of these teams,

1186
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: Like you know, if you're if you're a Chargers fan

1187
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert, if you're Bengals fan with Joe Burrow,

1188
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: it's like the sun is still shining very brightly because

1189
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: of what you found under center. Yeah, of course, And

1190
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: and he was impressive again, and he totally looks the part.

1191
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: He's the real deal. I mean, I in all the

1192
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: games that I've watched him, he looks like a guy

1193
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: that you were right in spending the first, you know,

1194
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: number one overall pick on which oftentimes we've seen teams

1195
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: spend high picks on quarterbacks. You just don't look the

1196
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: part when they get the NFL. Joe Burrow looks like

1197
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: he's been the NFL for five years, and he did

1198
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: again Sunday. But the problem was, as they were trying

1199
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: to rely way too much on him in weeks past

1200
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: and going away from Joe Maxon and expecting Burrow to

1201
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: win the game single handling and with the offensive line

1202
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: that they have, he just hasn't been able to do that.

1203
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: He's gotten him close. He got him close against Cleveland,

1204
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: he got him close against Philly, even got him close

1205
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: in Week one against Los Angeles. This time he finally

1206
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: they finally went way not away from him, but they

1207
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: used somebody other than just Joe Burrow and it put

1208
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: them over the top. Now, the Jaguars, I mean they

1209
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: were exciting for the first two weeks. The last two

1210
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: weeks are the team that we expected to see and

1211
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: I think the team that rent to see for the

1212
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: majority of the season. It was a close game for

1213
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: a while, we were in the tie zone kind of.

1214
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: It was very much in play because they neither were

1215
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: really doing much and they were with been a score

1216
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: before the Bengals kind of finally pulled away. There were

1217
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: a few times in the first HAF two in the

1218
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: red zone where Joe Burrow had a chance to put

1219
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: the ball in the end zone. One time it was

1220
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: a really nice pick by Myles Jack who ripped the

1221
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: ball out of Drew Sample's hands. The other time they

1222
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: just couldn't get it in there, uh and had to

1223
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: resort to Randy Bullock field goal. So again, he's mean,

1224
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: he's he's the guy. They have, their quarterback. They just

1225
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: have to fix everything around him, or at least use

1226
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: the weapons around him, and Joe Mixon is a big

1227
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: part of that. Well, they're not gonna play the Jaguars

1228
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: every week. That's a difference. I mean, they did four

1229
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: players over twenty yards in the first three weeks. For

1230
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: as much as Burrow as look good, they have the lead,

1231
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: they were by far the least explosive offense, and like

1232
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: I think they had eight or nine today. I watched

1233
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: this game by mistake thinking it was my assignment. Whoops, um,

1234
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: But I'm glad I knocked it out. They're very similar teams.

1235
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,959
Speaker 1: To me, and the difference was, Uh, the decision making

1236
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: by Burrow is pristine when he's protected. I mean, you

1237
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: can't fault this offensive line today. He was protected pretty

1238
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: well today. Uh, and obviously got helped with the running game,

1239
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: whereas Minshoe had a couple of decisions when he chose

1240
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: to run on a third down um that ended up

1241
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: in punts and they were bad decisions, and the interception

1242
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: he threw was a bad decision. He played really well.

1243
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: I would say overall, they just have a very small

1244
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: margin for error this defense. And so if you make

1245
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: a couple and you have a coach who doesn't seem

1246
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: to realize what kind of team he has, you know,

1247
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: punting on fourth and short and kicking field goals on

1248
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: fourth and show you know, Ma Maron. Sometimes he's like

1249
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: he's playing to a defense that's not there. Gruden. Gruden

1250
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: does that too, poking around the box score here, Shook,

1251
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing because we brought him up earlier, so I'll

1252
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,959
Speaker 1: bring him up again. A J. Green had one catch

1253
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: for three yards on five targets. Is there anything they

1254
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: had receptions? Overall? The team for three Higgins looks good, right, Yea.

1255
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: His name just not a part of the game plan anymore,

1256
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: or was he injured or what He was a focus

1257
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville's game plan for sure. Very often when he

1258
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: was tired, it seemed to be at least two defenders

1259
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: in the area. There was a couple of times where

1260
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,919
Speaker 1: he was completely blanketed and couldn't come down with the catch.

1261
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: But you're right, like Greg said, Tee Higgins was a

1262
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: big party. He looked good at age. Tyler Boyd was

1263
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: a big part as well. They were the two guys

1264
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: who got the ball the most. Joe Burrow does a

1265
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: very good job, especially for a rookie, for not looking

1266
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: to a J. Green and not relying on that. He's

1267
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: surveying the field and he's finding his open men, which

1268
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean this Bengals team, if they were just a

1269
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: little bit better probably defensively, uh and could avoid you know,

1270
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: becoming too reliant on Burrow, they could win some full

1271
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: competitive competitive right now every game they've been in. Also

1272
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: fair to ask you give Burrow credit for that, but

1273
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: it's possible that a J. Green is washed too right

1274
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: and he's not getting open anymore because he doesn't have

1275
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: the ability he once had. I mean, also John Ross

1276
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: is a healthy scratch weeks in a row. I mean,

1277
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: I feel like that guy's out the door. What is

1278
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: it hashtag gradual decline. I don't know if that's entirely

1279
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: true with A J. Green, but yeah, he has not

1280
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: been a big part of this offense for the majority.

1281
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: So you know what the Browns messed up last year

1282
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: shook when you were a team employee, and we still

1283
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: need to get the full details what led to your

1284
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: early exit there. But if if they had you as

1285
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: the muscle you're talking about somebody that needs to go

1286
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: down to the sideline and straighten out a head coach,

1287
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't have his head on straight. If you were

1288
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: going down there and slapping around Freddie Kitchens, tell him

1289
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: to get the ball to Nick chubbmore and Cream Hunt

1290
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: and all this, maybe the Browns would have been a

1291
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: playoff team last year. Well, I mean Freddie and I

1292
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: had a pretty solid relationship. That wasn't the issue. The

1293
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: issue was they had too many cooks in the kitchen

1294
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: there in the on the offensive stuff. You could take

1295
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: out multiple cooks. I mean, you know, I think we

1296
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: all we all see where you're at physically, Like multiple

1297
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: cooks would not be in this maybe they had one

1298
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: too many kitchens in that building as well. Yeah, I

1299
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: would never be I would never be an enforce or

1300
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: with Todd Mulkin. Have you seen him. He's a skinny guy.

1301
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. You know, he's he's an offensive

1302
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: wizard at the college level. Now stuff, you know, we're

1303
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: all good. I was gonna get in there cause problems.

1304
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Bridgewater retreats, climbs the pocket.

1305
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna run with it. Bridgewater cups to the right

1306
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: at the Bridgewater to the five. Unbelievable Teddy Bridgewater House

1307
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: is from twenty one yards away. Sneaky fast. Mcmixon and

1308
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: Kirk Coleman called w BT Teddy Bridgewater. He's sneaky fast.

1309
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: The Panthers QB scrambled and joked his way to an

1310
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: eighteen yards scoring Ruth added two passing scores win over

1311
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. The Panthers cool off the Cardinals. Actually, the

1312
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals have cooled up precipitously after that two and oh

1313
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: start shook. That was Teddy's first rushing TV since that

1314
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: devastating knee injury back in the summer of sixteen. He's

1315
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: an amazing story. Yeah, he certainly is, and he had

1316
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: he was very sharp today. You gotta give a lot

1317
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: of credit to the game plan put together by Joe

1318
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: Braid and the way he called the offense today. I

1319
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: thought for every situation he had an answer to whatever

1320
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: Arizona presented him with defensively. And this is one of

1321
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: those games where you're seeing two middling teams or below middling,

1322
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: and the coaching comes out as a difference, and the

1323
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: Panthers looked like the more prepared team from the sideline today.

1324
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: It's just a were one step ahead of the Cardinals

1325
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: for the majority of the game. In Carlinal scored toushdown

1326
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: late to make it a little bit closer, But for

1327
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: a lot of today it was a Panther's dominated game.

1328
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: And that started with Teddy. You know he when he

1329
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: had that Russian touchdown, I said he had did his best.

1330
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: Sam Donald I prussion because he escaped right up the

1331
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: middle for a touchdown. But I don't think he's sneaky fast.

1332
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: I think he's just fairly fast. I mean, we've known

1333
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: him to be at sneak. He just sneaky fast, though

1334
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: he everyone went went too hard the other way of

1335
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: like when a couple of people were like, this guy

1336
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: can't scramble. I mean, this guy is a scrambler. He's

1337
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: athletic when he was coming out, and people are like, no,

1338
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: Like you're just saying that because he's black. Um, Actually

1339
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: he's more of a pocket guy. But sneaky fast seems

1340
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: right for me, and I think he's been earny here.

1341
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: Of course, is that usually sneaky fast is attributed to

1342
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: the white guys in the slot. He's the first. He's

1343
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: the first black quarterback to be called sneaky fast. I

1344
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: think it's appropriate, and I think he's been getting faster.

1345
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: He he's looked a little more athletic every year, and

1346
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: that was a big part of his game at Louisville,

1347
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 1: not so much scrambling to run, but evading pass rushers.

1348
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: I think he's done a good job. How about Matt

1349
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: Rule putting it on old Cliff Kingsbury again for the

1350
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: Big twelve? I mean something there when you're getting, when

1351
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: you're getting Reggie Bonifin and Mike Davis the rush for

1352
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty plus yards, I'm I'm kind of

1353
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: in with you, Mark. This Matt Rule thing is it's happening. Yeah,

1354
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: People are like, Oh, I mean the thought was they

1355
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: would be you know, progressing and you know, causing problems

1356
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: late in the year and they're already showing that they

1357
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: can coach. Well, I have to ask you those shook.

1358
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean when you look at the Cardinals, do you

1359
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: think that what's going on here? Are there are teams

1360
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: may be catching up to this scheme or is it functioning?

1361
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: So I think at four point three yards for attempt today,

1362
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: it's two weeks in a row where they've they have

1363
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: not looked um at all like they did earlier in

1364
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: the in the first two weeks. Well, you know why

1365
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: because a lot of the Cardinals offense is predicated on

1366
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray improvising and patching all the holes that they

1367
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: have by just running and gaining first down and adding

1368
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: that element of the unexpected. And and you know when

1369
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: they ran the ball effetually last year with Kenyan Drake,

1370
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: he came out of the shotgun by spreading guys out. Well,

1371
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: that's not working this time. I mean they were creating

1372
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,720
Speaker 1: lanes by lessing defenders in the box. That's just that

1373
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: element of that is not in their game today. Uh.

1374
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Drink and thirteen carriage for thirty five yards. I mean,

1375
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: that's not gonna get you anything. When when your quarterback

1376
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: is consistently outrushing everybody else and you have to rely

1377
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: on that as a staple of your offense, Eventually other

1378
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: defenses are gonna catch up to it, because that should

1379
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: be something that's improvisation, not something that's built into the

1380
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: way you succeed on a week to week basis. And

1381
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: it really hurt them today, and it especially doesn't help

1382
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: them when they have to come from behind. Their defense

1383
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: did them no favors like I said they were. I

1384
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: think they were out schemed for the majority of this game.

1385
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: And I think that the Cardinals are gonna have a

1386
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 1: tough path because those first games they want early in

1387
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: the season a lot of that, especially in San Francisco.

1388
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: For example, those first downs were converted by Kyler Murray

1389
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: with his legs, and I just don't think that's a

1390
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: sustainable way to win a game. Eleven throws to non

1391
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins wideouts for twenty six yards. That's that's not

1392
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: the Gabbard zone. That's like the Cincinnati Reds batting average zone.

1393
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: That is right the Panthers. And this is why sports

1394
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: are funny Panthers now and two with Christian McCaffrey two

1395
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: and oh without which takes us to Sunday Night Football,

1396
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: Sunday Night. From the twenty five yard line, I'm a

1397
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: little throws and all the way to the zone touchdown

1398
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: Alex Singleton. Shan makes a terrible throw. Shingleton is right

1399
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: there and then they are shut rating in front of

1400
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: the big tree. Baby who baby Indeed Al Michael's with

1401
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: the call for NBC. Alex Singleton, right place, right time

1402
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: for the specials special teamer who steps in front of

1403
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: that Nick Molans pass takes it to the house. Turned

1404
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: out to be the clinching score for the Philadelphia Eagles,

1405
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:54,480
Speaker 1: who hold on for twenty win over the San Francisco

1406
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: forty Niners at the Big Bowl Bottom, a huge win

1407
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: the goals, who, as the old saying goes, spent most

1408
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: of the game on offense, making it look like they

1409
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: were on a one twenty yard field going uphill both ways.

1410
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: But Carson Wentz with a long touchdown passed to put

1411
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 1: them ahead, followed quickly by that pick six and Nick Shook.

1412
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: The Eagles are in first place as a result. It

1413
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: was ugly, but I don't think this Seguel team could

1414
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: win or get their first one of the year any

1415
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: other way than than an ugly fashion against a team

1416
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: that was you know, I don't know if it was

1417
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 1: equally a shorthand probably more shorthanded. The Eagles have had

1418
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: their own rash of injuries, of course. I mean that

1419
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: we we saw who scored, you know, a touched in tonight,

1420
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: a guy who has no statistics recorded prior to tonight,

1421
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: uh in Travis Fulham. So Uh an interesting game, Uh,

1422
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: an exciting game at the end. Sure if if you

1423
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: thought that Bethroom can actually throw it to the end zone,

1424
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: but hey, the Eagles are off the schnide, right, he

1425
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: did throw it to the end zone, Bethard got. I

1426
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: mean it's crazy that after the Eagles kind of sat

1427
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: on the ball and didn't pick up a third and

1428
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: nine after replacing Nick Mullins, and we can you know,

1429
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: get into NICKA Mullins just having a nightmarish night. Uh.

1430
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: From the first from the jump, I mean he missed

1431
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: his first two throws by a mile, including what could

1432
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: have been a monster one to use check and uh,

1433
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: Bethard put a hail Mary up there from about the

1434
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: thirty five forty that that literally hit George Kittle and

1435
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel in the hands. So it's like it was

1436
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: that it was that close, but uh, the Eagles almost

1437
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: felt like they deserved this one. Um. I don't know.

1438
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: The way the defense got after Nick Collins was was

1439
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: pretty good and just it just felt like a miracle.

1440
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: The two long drives that they did have an offense,

1441
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: the touchdown drive in the first half and the field

1442
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: goal drive to start the second half which took about

1443
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: eight minutes, It just felt like that was such an

1444
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: achievement for them that it was like, Okay, night, enjoy

1445
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: your first place. You're one too and one Eagles fans.

1446
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: I thought coming out of the half that the Niners

1447
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: they put together this drive. You know, that third quarter

1448
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: was one of those almost rare quarters were only two

1449
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: drives would have um occupied in the entire period, but

1450
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a third one in there.

1451
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: But the Niners had a touchdown drive that covered seventy

1452
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: five yards that I thought was sort of a Kyle

1453
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: Shanahan and almost Nick Mullins special where there was a

1454
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: bullet to Brandon aiyuk Uh. McKinnon got involved there was

1455
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 1: a classic nod to Mike Shanahan with a shuffle pass

1456
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: that John Elway used to run with the Broncos back

1457
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: in the nineties, and then everything fell apart from there.

1458
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: Was followed by a punt, the fumble, the interception, the

1459
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: quarterback switch, and there you go. Niners could not get

1460
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 1: it done. I they you know, they go up when

1461
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: Whence connects with fulgam for forty two yards, then the

1462
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: pick six, and the game looks like it's a actively done.

1463
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: At that point, Bethard comes in uh and gives the

1464
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: Niners a spark and after on site kick recovery, I

1465
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: just I, you know, especially Doug Peterson, a guy who

1466
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: helped bring the league along, and being aggressive on fourth down.

1467
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the way they played that. They ran

1468
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: the ball for a yard, they ran the ball for

1469
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 1: no gain, and then wentz did that annoying little thing

1470
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 1: where the quarterback takes the snap and then scrambles and

1471
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: then slides down like Michael Strahan's chasing him for the

1472
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: sack record, you know, not being aggressive where he's just

1473
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: go go get a first down, just go get a

1474
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,560
Speaker 1: first down and and show some um gumption. But I

1475
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: guess Doug Peterson is that's where he's at with his offense.

1476
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: Even coming off the touchdown pass on the drive before,

1477
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: there was three and a half quarters of evidence saying

1478
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: that Philadelphia is not an offense to be trusted right now.

1479
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: But you know, they got away with it. But it

1480
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: was definitely a closer call than it should have been.

1481
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 1: But that shouldn't That doesn't kind of mark the night

1482
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: for me, especially since they still want I think it's commendable.

1483
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has gotten a ton of heat this year,

1484
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: and he's deserved some of it because he hasn't played well.

1485
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, he is really dealing. It's got a stack

1486
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: deck against him, and you know, the offensive line is

1487
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: beat up right now. His left tackle was in and

1488
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: out of the lineup. The wide receivers, so many pieces

1489
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 1: are missing, and it just seems like such a challenge.

1490
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: Even against an injury depleted forty Niners defense, it was

1491
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: very difficult to find receivers who were open. So you

1492
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: give you give Win's credit for hanging in there and

1493
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: keeping this game close and then making the big strike

1494
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 1: to take control when he's got Adrian Killings in there,

1495
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: You've got Travis Fulgan, but I would just say, if

1496
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna use jail and Hurts, that's fine, but have

1497
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: those plays makes sense. Had the offense to me, the

1498
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: Eagles offense like pretty much post Frank Reich. But I'll

1499
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: just speak about this night, like I don't think they

1500
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: kind of know what they want to be and maybe

1501
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: they can't with the personnel in there. But like Miles

1502
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: Sanders to me, like, I'm not nearly as impressed with

1503
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: this guy as some people around the country seem to be.

1504
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: Like they when they were dominant, back when they went

1505
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I think the thing that is

1506
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: forgotten because they've never been that way since they had

1507
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: a pounding run game that would beat people up down

1508
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: the stretch. They were the third best run game in

1509
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: the league, and that's completely absent right now. I mean,

1510
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of indicative of the fact that

1511
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: they've lost so much the offensive line. I mean, not

1512
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: having Brandon Books is a big deal. Having to shift

1513
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 1: to Jason Peters over is a big deal, having to

1514
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: figure out what you had left guard. But they weren't

1515
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: last year either, Like yeah, and you know they were right,

1516
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: I Mean, they weren't this banged up there. I mean

1517
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: they I think they think this is a this is

1518
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: a freaking miracle that they just won a game without

1519
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned Lane Johnson coming in and out,

1520
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: so four of their five offensive linemen were out. Their

1521
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 1: top receivers, Uh, we're Fulham greg Ward was kind of

1522
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: their number one. You've got Richard Rodgers, Uh coming over

1523
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: from creen Bay. You got Hight Tower, your fifth round pick. Uh.

1524
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: Their defensive line is totally healthy and was d e

1525
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: And to me, it was the difference in in this game.

1526
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, Brandon Graham was killing Mike McGlinchey. Those are

1527
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: two starters. Actually McGlinchey is the forty Niners starter. Uh.

1528
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat made plays like they up and down their bench.

1529
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: That was kind of the most dominant part of this game.

1530
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: But Mullins also kind of just didn't show up. Yeah,

1531
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 1: I think Mullins is the big is the big takeaway

1532
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: from me here. I think they lost the game because

1533
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: the Nick Mullins. It's not it stinks to put it

1534
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: on one player, but when it's the quarterback, that's the

1535
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: way sometimes things go in football. Because you look at

1536
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: this team and if I'm a Niners fan, I'm bummed

1537
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: because I'm two and two now, But at the same time,

1538
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: you see the pieces are there. George Kittle came back

1539
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: and it's absolutely just such a dominant player. Um, he's

1540
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: the toughest tackle in football. Deebo Samuel's back in the

1541
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 1: lineup and he made some plays. He just looks different

1542
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: and and he's he's big and he's fast. And then

1543
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Dayuk you saw he flashed that special ability on

1544
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: the touchdown. Once Jimmy g gets back in there, I

1545
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: think the Niners are gonna be okay and continue to

1546
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: hang in the race. But it doesn't this loss any

1547
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: easier to swell because you're at home against the injury

1548
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: ravaged Eagles team and you don't find a way to

1549
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: get it done. Yeah, you know, going back to the

1550
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: Eagle's offense point, it felt kind of like they, you know,

1551
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson's just searching for something the whole, the whole

1552
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts insertion and and everything they tried with him.

1553
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: They try to basically double pass and he turned to

1554
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 1: throw it and it was obviously covered because you had

1555
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: an idea what they were going for with Hurts lined

1556
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: about wide. It just it just feels like they're searching

1557
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: and they're trying to find something that sticks to throwing

1558
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: everything at the wall and they finally gonna win. So

1559
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean it is it's it's a boost for them

1560
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: because going back to Philly oh three and one would

1561
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: have been really difficult, especially against team that's quarterback by

1562
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: Nick Bollins and then later season method. So you you

1563
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: obviously give them credit to the defense, like you said,

1564
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: but it's still going forward, it's gonna be tough and

1565
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: they have to play the Ravens and the Steelers coming

1566
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: up next. Everyone in the NFC's council a little extra

1567
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: that this this was kind of a perfect son uh example.

1568
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: Though part of what istball I think it's been a

1569
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: little under reported almost are just the level of injuries

1570
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: is outrageous. They're just if this isn't normal to have

1571
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: entire teams ravage, like we're we're kind of getting the

1572
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 1: on the forty Niners for not beating this injury banged

1573
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: up the Eagles team, But forty Niners are missing nine

1574
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: or ten starters and so are the Eagles. Like that

1575
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: is rare, and there's about six or seven teams that

1576
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: are like that, and even the teams that are kind

1577
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: of healthy. It's like, you know, the Browns lose Ogan

1578
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: Job and Chubb today even during this game. The forty

1579
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: Niners lose Ziggyanza sounds like to a biceps injury maybe

1580
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: for maybe for the season. It's like they got Dion Jordan.

1581
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: They're picking up lottery guys that that were that were

1582
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 1: out of the league and just like putting them right in.

1583
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: And it's kind of the story of the league right now.

1584
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: There are some teams that are just so wiped out.

1585
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: It's a little hard to even like make an evaluation

1586
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,560
Speaker 1: of any of these things. But I think Craig, I

1587
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: think we like people widely praised the Niners for being

1588
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: super injured and pounding too bad New York teams. They

1589
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: played a banged up team tonight and they lost. So

1590
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, I mean, I don't know

1591
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: if the statistically there are more injuries or not. It

1592
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: seems like there are, but I feel like there in

1593
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: terms of like multiple multiple guys, in terms of like

1594
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: half of a team of starters being out on like

1595
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: five teams, it's there that that never happened. So I

1596
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: guess I'm just giving the forty Niners fans. They're gonna

1597
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: get some people back. Like Dan said, the cavalry is coming.

1598
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: They went too and too. If you can beat the

1599
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: Dolphins next week, you're three in two. I mean you've

1600
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: also picked the Eagles to go to the super Bowl,

1601
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: so you've got both fan bases. On the Greg Rosenthal

1602
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 1: side here, we know how this works. There's gonna be

1603
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 1: a little campaign. Greg does this with two or three

1604
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: teams a week, tries to reach out to their fan

1605
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: base on Twitter. Dan knows, just like football. What are

1606
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: you talking about to uh miss the playoffs? I'm sorry,

1607
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: did we get a mention of Saint Twitter yet? Exactly?

1608
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: We gotta start ringing a bell for that. Hey, Shook,

1609
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for doing the show. I

1610
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: know obviously this has been a tough time for you

1611
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: after uh the Indians crapp the bet against the Yankees

1612
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs for you know, another year, tough, tough

1613
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: stitch for you. But you know you're a good sport

1614
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Well, you know, Dan Um,

1615
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: if we could ever level the playing field in terms

1616
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: of salary uh spending for for rosters, you know, maybe

1617
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: a salary cap or or a better revenue sharing or oh,

1618
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, um something to compare the payrolls at all. Well,

1619
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 1: then maybe we'd be on an even playing field and

1620
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: then we could talk seriously. But you know, the adience

1621
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: always undermanned in terms of finances. Even if their owners

1622
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: turn a thirty million dollar y your profit, give or take,

1623
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: you got to get an owner who spent some money.

1624
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: They fault. They're never gonna spend money here. It's it's

1625
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: a it's a deep conversation that we cannot do on

1626
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: this podcast. The last time they spent money was obvious

1627
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: a kid in the nineties with the Jacobs, and those

1628
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: guys are long gone. It's tough. Yeah, your cy young

1629
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: winners got to do better than that though in that spot,

1630
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: well go ahead or yeah, just let him allow allowed

1631
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: Nick to enjoy one of the rare Browns victors of

1632
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 1: his lifetime, versus bringing up I get to enjoy anything.

1633
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: I am a Jets fan, so maybe this is my

1634
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: chance to have something nice in my life. Maybe it

1635
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: all bounces out a little bit. I mean, I feel

1636
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: like the Yankees are a pretty nice thing to have

1637
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: in your life in Generaliza, Yeah, yeah, it must be nice,

1638
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to look back on a

1639
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 1: few World Series in your lifetime, unlike I have to

1640
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: go back to my great grandfather to find the Indians

1641
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: last World Series. And you know what, one more thing,

1642
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: the Browns. Like you said, Mark the Browns. They're now

1643
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: three and one for the first time since two thousand one.

1644
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: They opened that season with a loss to the Seattle

1645
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks nine to six at Cleveland Brown Stadium. Ricky Waters

1646
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: was on that roster, among other people. I opened two

1647
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: thousand one by playing flag football on the field at

1648
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown Stadium. That's how long it's been since the

1649
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 1: Browns were in any shape of contention. At this point

1650
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: in the regular season, I was in fourth grade. M

1651
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 1: m A. While it's important, it's important to get yourself

1652
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: worth from whether your team succeeds or so. This is big,

1653
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: like this is that, this is what's gonna make you rise.

1654
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: Imagine if we all had the clarity that Greg has

1655
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: on all things in life. Red Sox fan, who you know,

1656
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: you've got like eighties six titles. I didn't do anything

1657
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: for them, they give me nothing. We'll reach that level

1658
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: of stoicism after understanding what any success is just on

1659
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: a higher plane you know living it's vision over. I'm

1660
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: just saying, don't let these losers control you. When they're

1661
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: leading losers, You're a winner, Shook you the three, all

1662
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: four of us are winners here like sometimes an organization

1663
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 1: is just a bunch of losers, and when they are,

1664
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: you recognize that psychologist that's you, Greg Um. All right,

1665
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: let's go out here, Shook. Thank you again for being

1666
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: our tag team partner here on Sunday nights. You're a

1667
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: great value. Add uh to the show, and we'll be

1668
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: back on Tuesday with a action packed around the NFL

1669
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: podcast breaking down not one but two games, including Chiefs Patriots. Uh.

1670
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: The last word I'll give to Al Michaels or I

1671
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 1: should say Chris Collinsworth UM, who said, in response to

1672
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: Al saying our buddies Jim Nance and Tony Romo are

1673
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: still in Kansas City. Collinsworth replies, so Roman's gonna do

1674
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: Monday Night after all, which just slayd Al because Al,

1675
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: of course is involved in the Monday Night courtship supposedly

1676
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: reportedly uh in the off season. All right, that's it.

1677
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:38,839
Speaker 1: Then has a signing off four Quiet Storm Shook the Mailman,

1678
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, and Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual of

1679
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: less Well until Tuesday,