WEBVTT - The Science of Tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert lamp and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your relationship with tattoos? Do you have tattoos? Is

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<v Speaker 1>anyone close to you have tattoo? Well, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo. I'm noncommittal by nature. And this is how

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<v Speaker 1>I found out is by pondering like, well, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get a tattoo. What tattoo would I get? And then

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, I can't commit. Um, my husband is tattooed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like them. I parturefually, like chef tattoos that

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<v Speaker 1>exalt like their favorite kind of food or their favorite night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I like that. There's the guy on Mind

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<v Speaker 1>of a Chef the second season who has the one

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<v Speaker 1>arm is sleeved and different vegetables and ingredients. My apologies

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<v Speaker 1>for not remembering his name, but check out the second

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<v Speaker 1>season of Mind of a Chef too, good stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's can be really kind of fascinating. What about you, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have one tattoo. And to your noncommittal thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you brought up, indeed with me. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a long sort of deciding process because I always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of wanted one, but I wasn't impulsome enough to just

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<v Speaker 1>go out and get like some stupid tattoo in junior

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<v Speaker 1>higher high school. So I I spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time thinking, all right, if I get the one tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>get one one mark of my body that's gonna be permanent.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what is it gonna be? Where am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put it? It It has to have some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>um you know, it needs to be a potent enough symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to uh to to to mean something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you get a whole bunch of them, if

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<v Speaker 1>you just get sleeves, and you can afford to have

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<v Speaker 1>some duds in the mix, right, and you can cover

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<v Speaker 1>them up later on. But if you're just gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>the one, you gotta really hit it out of the

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<v Speaker 1>park so that it's you know, you can argue that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I didn't hit it out of the park with this,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's um. I had the design done by an

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<v Speaker 1>artist by the name of Michael Manning, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>on my my ribs and it's the Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably not a great place pain wise for

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<v Speaker 1>a first tattoo, but it's essentially the spear wound of Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also kind of like um a volva and

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<v Speaker 1>also kind of like an eye. So like, I had

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<v Speaker 1>those three requests because I'm always I've always been fascinated

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<v Speaker 1>with with some of the Stranger Christ imagery, particularly images

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<v Speaker 1>such as the you know, the with the finger is

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<v Speaker 1>going into the whole and the resurrected Christ's body, and

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that that the spear of wound and the

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<v Speaker 1>resurrected Christ is not only like yonic symbolism but is

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<v Speaker 1>all but it is ultimately about combining masculine and feminine

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<v Speaker 1>aspects of God into one body. So I was always

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<v Speaker 1>interested in all that stuff. So I thought, well, hell

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<v Speaker 1>I would just get a tattoo that kind of encompasses

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<v Speaker 1>some of those ideas. And uh is kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a shifting, amorphous symbol of something. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just about to say, you really nailed it, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a choice of words. But really, seriously, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that is a thoughtful tattoo. Well, thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And plus it's out of the way, so nobody sees

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<v Speaker 1>it unless I'm you know, swimming or something so works

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<v Speaker 1>on all accounts. Now, a two thousand and twelve Harris

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<v Speaker 1>poll found that twenty one percent of American adults have

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo. That's one in five, which is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>higher than I thought it would be. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you know. Part of it is that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily have to see tattoos. I've I've I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was researching this, I kept coming across I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know something in the keywords I was throwing in.

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<v Speaker 1>I kept finding an article about Dolly Parton being secretly

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<v Speaker 1>covered with tattoos. I think she's a butterfly or something

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<v Speaker 1>emerging from her boosom. But I mean, I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>So so so everybody could essentially have butterfly tattoos on

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<v Speaker 1>their stern ums, have been Lessia at the beach with them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just not gonna know. Oh you're gonna call it

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<v Speaker 1>this sternum the sternum. Yeah, I alright. Um. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>are familiar with all sorts of sites that celebrate the good,

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<v Speaker 1>the bad, the terrible of tattoos, because one of the

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<v Speaker 1>intriguing things about tattoos is that they can be permanent.

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<v Speaker 1>Although we have technology now to get rid of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But essentially what you're doing is you're trying to immortalize

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of idea. So when you see some bad

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<v Speaker 1>grammar in a tattoo, then it's especially mortifying, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>bad grammar, just weird, perplexing imagery. Particularly one that I

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<v Speaker 1>was come back to was the one of the dolphin

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<v Speaker 1>setting on like a lazy boy recliner smoking a ball.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of my favorites. Um, and really that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>That's not even like one of the worst tattoos. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's not really offensive to anybody. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just strange that someone was like that, that's going on

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<v Speaker 1>me and I'm going to take it with me to

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<v Speaker 1>the grave. It's gonna last longer than my life. That tattoo. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one I saw that was super earnest and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sad only because of the way it turned out.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, it was a bat tattoo that said only

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<v Speaker 1>God can judge me. The problem with it is that

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<v Speaker 1>it had super fancy scroll so that j look like

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<v Speaker 1>an f and so it turned out essentially looking like

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<v Speaker 1>only God can fudge me, fudge me. Okay, all right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah. I mean that's the power of tattoos though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's it's the the the permanence or the

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<v Speaker 1>the ideal permanence of the thing. It's what may can

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<v Speaker 1>make a tattoo uh inspiring and empowering. It's what it

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<v Speaker 1>can make a tattoo uh dehumanizing and uh. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen examples of both ends of the spectrum throughout human history.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you go back in time, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>some of our earliest examples. We found, Um, we found

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<v Speaker 1>them etched in the flesh of the five thousand, two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred year old Ootsi the Iceman. This was the Iceman

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<v Speaker 1>that we found on the Italian Austrian border back in

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<v Speaker 1>nine And we also find very early examples of tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>among the Egyptians, the only the females. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting They this to date them back to around

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand year two. This would date them back to

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<v Speaker 1>around two thousand b c. E UM. And these were

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<v Speaker 1>these women were probably they think royal Cortisan's dancers, ETCETERA.

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<v Speaker 1>Archaeologist Johan Fletcher theorizes that these tattoos had a therapeutic

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<v Speaker 1>role and functioned as a permanent form of amulet during

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<v Speaker 1>the very different difficult time of pregnancy and birth, and

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<v Speaker 1>these would have been placed on the abdomen um around

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<v Speaker 1>the breasts and uh. And so in this we see

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of the the tattoo is is is a

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<v Speaker 1>is almost a magical spell as a protective uh feature.

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<v Speaker 1>And and really you see that again through throughout human

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<v Speaker 1>history even today, A lot of times we get those

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<v Speaker 1>those tattoos on us um to immortalize some some spirit

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<v Speaker 1>that we aspire to, or some person that means a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to us, some deity, some supernatural force, whatever, some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of symbolics, some symbolism that we wish to take

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<v Speaker 1>into our flesh. One of the more interesting ones to

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<v Speaker 1>me that I ran across was from a archaeological dig. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>These archaeologists were working in an icy plateau in eastern Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>and they stumbled upon a burial chamber of a mummy

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<v Speaker 1>who became known as the Siberian Ice Princess, and her

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<v Speaker 1>year old body was incredibly well preserved in the permit frost,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had elaborate tattoos on both of her arms. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>her head was shaved, and she wore a wig and

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<v Speaker 1>a tall wooden head dress decorated with cats and swans,

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<v Speaker 1>and they think she goes a princess or someone who

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<v Speaker 1>of elevated status, because not only that she was surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by six horses that were saddled and bridled they were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be They think her spiritual escorts into the

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<v Speaker 1>other world. And she also had a little um container

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<v Speaker 1>of cannabis, which they then found out maybe had something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with alleviating her pain, because she did have

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<v Speaker 1>some cancer growth in her body and she had some

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<v Speaker 1>form of osteoporosis too. So, um, what I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting in terms of the tattoos is that the

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<v Speaker 1>person who lead this Natalia, Paulice Max, says that compared

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<v Speaker 1>to all tattoos found by archaeologists around the world, those

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<v Speaker 1>on the mummies of the Pazarik people whom she was

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<v Speaker 1>a part of, are the most complicated and the most beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what's interesting about this tattoo is that they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're the sort of language that they deal in is

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<v Speaker 1>of animal imagery, and so they had a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>animal based language, which is really cool. And Paul's Max

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<v Speaker 1>says that these tattoos were used as a means of

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<v Speaker 1>personal identification, So think of your own passport. This idea

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<v Speaker 1>is that this would tell the story of who you were,

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<v Speaker 1>so that in the afterlife you could meet up with others. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reminds me of an old Eastern saying that

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<v Speaker 1>I ran across that said that if if you do

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<v Speaker 1>not have a tattoo, did it's almost like you don't exist,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're you're basically invisible of the tat. By tattooing

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<v Speaker 1>something into your body, um, like you're making yourself more real.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about that all right. Now. You mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of medicinal aspects of that tattoo, I should

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<v Speaker 1>go back and mentioned that on our our friend Ootsi

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<v Speaker 1>the iceman uh Ootsies tattoos consisted of dots and small

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<v Speaker 1>crosses on his lower spine and right knee and ankle joints,

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<v Speaker 1>and those correspond to areas of scrain induced degeneration uh

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<v Speaker 1>with the suggestion here being that they may have been

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<v Speaker 1>applied to alleviate joint pain, and therefore we're essentially therapeutic essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>and again you're getting also probably into a certain amount

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<v Speaker 1>of magical thinking as well and ritual but but ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>an early form of of a medicinal tattoo. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned Egyptian women and um tattoos that would help

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<v Speaker 1>as sort of talisman's And there's one example that the

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<v Speaker 1>British Museum looked at. They had scan and ripped the

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<v Speaker 1>mummy of an Egyptian woman dating back to seven hundred CE.

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<v Speaker 1>They found a tattoo on her thigh and as just

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<v Speaker 1>deciphered by the curators, the tattoo, written in Ancient Greek,

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<v Speaker 1>is transliterated as m I x A h A or Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea here's that its thought that the the

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<v Speaker 1>name was referring to the archangel Michael, and because it

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<v Speaker 1>was placed on our inner thigh, that it might have

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<v Speaker 1>been a protection not just for the birth of a child,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe even against a sexual violent act. Interesting. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>another interesting religious tattoo. And I do want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out that we're not going to attempt to chronicle every

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating tattoo tradition that's been passed down through human history,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are many whole books have been written about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're just hitting some high points here. For us

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<v Speaker 1>Um during the Crusades in the eleven and twelfth century,

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<v Speaker 1>Um Christian warriors identified themselves with the mark of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jerusalem Cross, so they could be given a proper Christian

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<v Speaker 1>burial of died in battle. And that that one is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting because on one hand it's a religious tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also it also is sort of like some

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<v Speaker 1>of the modern models of medical tattoos that will touch on. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's saying who and what you were for anyone that

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<v Speaker 1>would come across your body. All right, we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break and we get back. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>prison tats. All right, we're back now. Earlier and we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the the power of tattoos. The permanence of tattoos has,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the positive and empowering side, but also a

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<v Speaker 1>negative into humanizing side. You do see a long tradition

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<v Speaker 1>of penal tattoos uh throughout human history, particularly uh. You

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<v Speaker 1>see it in Chinese, see it in Japan, you see

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<v Speaker 1>it in the Hellenistic period. And this is the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you have, You have your your criminals, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to mark your criminals. So what do you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You tattoo them and you let everyone know then from

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<v Speaker 1>you know, ideally for the rest of their lives. We're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with someone who committed this act. So that's taking

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<v Speaker 1>the permanence of that tattoo and using it in a

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<v Speaker 1>very very negative manner. Yeah, but now you know, fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward to today and you see prison tattoos more of

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of prison culture. And to be clear, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Bureau of Prisons, having a tattoo kit is

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<v Speaker 1>considered contraband for a number of reasons the US as

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<v Speaker 1>a weapon, it could spread infectious disease. And yet, as

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<v Speaker 1>we know, contraband gets through the gates, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an entire prison economy based on contraband. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we went into some of this in our did

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<v Speaker 1>we go into this in our our our episodes about digestion?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know Mary Roach went into the prison wallet

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in her book Prison Wallet. That's right. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot imagine smuggling a tattoo machine into my prison wallet

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<v Speaker 1>based on some of the other things that get smuggled in.

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<v Speaker 1>The tattoo gun is probably not the worst. But but indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could you look at a prison environment

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<v Speaker 1>and you have so many there's it's it's almost a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect model for why a lot of people get tattoos.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're cut off from people you love, so you

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<v Speaker 1>might get a tattoo uh of some reminds you of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody outside. You also have to in many cases bond

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<v Speaker 1>with a different cultural group you're you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>prison gangs, for lack of another word, prison cultures, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to show that you are a part

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<v Speaker 1>of that culture. You make that that culture a part

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<v Speaker 1>of your flesh. Also, it's a it's a place where

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<v Speaker 1>some inmates find religion, and you want to show that

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<v Speaker 1>that this deity or this uh, this model of faith

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<v Speaker 1>means a lot to you, so you put it into

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<v Speaker 1>your skin. Retired law enforcement official in prison culture expert

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Lichton says, quote, I've talked to many inmates, and

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<v Speaker 1>tattoos are always about what's important to them. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be something personal likes about this name or a Bible quote,

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<v Speaker 1>or to belong to a group, to intimidate others, or

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<v Speaker 1>to tell a story. So I think that's really important

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<v Speaker 1>to uh. And we'll talk a little bit more about this.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if you're in prison and you, as

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<v Speaker 1>you say, you want to bond with a certain group

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<v Speaker 1>or identify with the group, the easiest way to do

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<v Speaker 1>that is to have a permanent tattoo inked on you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it kind of comes back to the basic

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<v Speaker 1>idea that as humans, we we all look kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same on the outside. You know, there's not there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing on the outside that necessarily gives a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>depth about character. And the tattoo is an ability to

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<v Speaker 1>take our inner world and make it a part of

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<v Speaker 1>our outer world. Well. And in terms of prison culture too,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit of survival, right, especially if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to join a group or you know, get protection from

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<v Speaker 1>that group. So, um, let's get to the tear drop tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we kind of get that out of the way,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's always that always comes up, and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's no definitive answer for this. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you have a tear drop tattoo you've killed

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in prison. Yes, okay, that's usually there. I should

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<v Speaker 1>say that most people associate it with, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the wearer has killed someone, but it can

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<v Speaker 1>also mean that the wearer has served a long prison

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<v Speaker 1>sentence or is mourning the loss of a family member,

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<v Speaker 1>And a clear tear drop can mean that the wearer

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<v Speaker 1>has committed an attempted murder or alternatively that a close

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<v Speaker 1>friend was killed and the wearer is seeking revenge. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't even touched on this, but just as a

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<v Speaker 1>call back to our episode The Zen of Pain and

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<v Speaker 1>to a listener mail that we received and I believe

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<v Speaker 1>red in our recent episode, getting a tattoo stings a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And Uh, it's depending on on your means of of

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<v Speaker 1>of actually uh, putting the tattoo in your flesh. Um

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<v Speaker 1>it it becomes a ritual, it becomes an experience of pain,

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<v Speaker 1>a rich wolf pain, and so you have that whole

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic going on as well as you say, get in

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<v Speaker 1>the name of a departed loved one put into your flesh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that the reason why that tear drop

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<v Speaker 1>one is appoignant or so trouble link to so many

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<v Speaker 1>people because it's such a mark on that person and

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<v Speaker 1>in such an outward expression of the angst or sadness

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<v Speaker 1>that that consumes them. Presumably. Yeah, because when you get

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<v Speaker 1>a facial tattoo, you're changing the way that you communicate

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<v Speaker 1>with the world. Um. I think we've discussed before on

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<v Speaker 1>here that, uh, when a when a hominid species such

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<v Speaker 1>as humans have faces that kind of all look alike.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because the more the more like we are, the

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<v Speaker 1>more nuance comes out in our expressions, the more that

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<v Speaker 1>we're better able to communicate with one another because we

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of a similar facial recognition cognition system in place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so so, yeah, the idea of facial tattoo is often

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of frightening, kind of intimidating. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course you see a great tradition of a facial

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<v Speaker 1>tattooing with the Maori people, really beautiful facial tattoos, but

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<v Speaker 1>in particularly with the men, it's it's often you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about uh, putting on this this impressive usual display,

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<v Speaker 1>this aggressive display intimidation. Right, So it's sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of embodied cognition, which we've talked about before with

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<v Speaker 1>the old lab coats, that people dawn sometimes and they

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<v Speaker 1>feel more important or more proficient. In the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're altering your face to look more intimidating or

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<v Speaker 1>to express express your grief, then you are embodying that

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<v Speaker 1>that is changing the person that you are expressing to

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Now, speaking of gangs and cultural tattoos and

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<v Speaker 1>and about the hour display, sometimes it's about the hidden

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<v Speaker 1>display as well, because I think one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>remarkable examples of like a gang cultural tattoo is of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the the the body tattoos of the yakuza, the Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>gangster class. We have these elaborate designs that they generally

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<v Speaker 1>have themes of of unresolved conflict and also symbols of

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<v Speaker 1>of character traits that the the wear wants to aspire to.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, the carp often shows up as a representation

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<v Speaker 1>and of strength and perseverance. Yeah, and then there's also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of the the language behind them, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just the bonding, but it's also sort of

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<v Speaker 1>again embodied cognition in a way of saying, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the life that I have chosen for myself. When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to gang tattooing, the Canada Border Services Agency document

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<v Speaker 1>Tattoos and their Meetings says that the three dot tattoo,

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<v Speaker 1>usually in a triangle configuration, it signifies prison, hospital, cemetery,

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<v Speaker 1>and that represents the path and the ultimate end of

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<v Speaker 1>a gang lifestyle. So it's the kind of commitment to

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<v Speaker 1>that lifestyle to to have that tattoo and say that

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<v Speaker 1>I accept of these maybe the terms of of uh,

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<v Speaker 1>my employment or the culture that I'm entering into now.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned medical tattoos a little bit earlier, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course we we still see the use of tattoos in medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>though not as a mystical curative factor, but you do

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<v Speaker 1>see them. For instance, is to indicate a medically relevant

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<v Speaker 1>condition on a body of your location, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>those Crusader tattoos we mentioned earlier. Essentially would would let

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<v Speaker 1>someone know this person has this condition, please treat them accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>You have in some cases, US soldiers have a tattoo

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<v Speaker 1>version of their dog tags that are sometimes called meat tags,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is essentially the same thing as the crusader

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo that says this dead body was so and so

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where they were formed, that is their unit, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you also see um medical tattoos uh used

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<v Speaker 1>in radiotherapy. You're using a radiation to to treat a

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<v Speaker 1>very particular part of the body. You want to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the same part, the same area each and every time.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a permanent marker of where to to apply

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<v Speaker 1>that radiation. Yeah, and usually it's just for like freckle

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<v Speaker 1>sized dots, and you know, in sort of a square

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<v Speaker 1>configuration that's mapping out that patch of tissue that needs

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<v Speaker 1>to get hit over and over and over again. And

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<v Speaker 1>the more accurate you can make that and the faster

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<v Speaker 1>the process, especially for people who are going through say

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<v Speaker 1>six weeks or more radiation treatments, this can be really

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<v Speaker 1>really helpful. Indeed, also you'll see medical tattoos sometimes used

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<v Speaker 1>for aerola replacement or parvy a replacement at following them assectomy.

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<v Speaker 1>So again this dude, those are just some some quick

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<v Speaker 1>points on the long, rich timeline of human tattooing. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a quick break. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about the actual mechanics of tattooing. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. So we've talked about the history of tattooing,

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<v Speaker 1>culture of tattooing, and it brings us up to the

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<v Speaker 1>modern day. Yeah, and before we really talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>more of the modern aspects of tattooing, including the invention

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<v Speaker 1>of the tattoo machine, we should say that, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why tattooing became so popular, or one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons is people like Joseph Banks, who was naturalist aboard

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<v Speaker 1>the British ship Endeavor and According to a Smithsonian article

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<v Speaker 1>by Abigail West, he was one of the first to

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<v Speaker 1>record encounters with the Polynesian practice of tattooings or tattoo um.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we're talking about seventeen sixty nine when Banks

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<v Speaker 1>was watching a twelve year old girl being extensively adorned,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he wrote about it, and it really captured

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<v Speaker 1>the imaginations of a lot of people, and they then

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to also participate with tattoos, and indeed we have

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<v Speaker 1>a rich tradition of sailor tattoos um. I think probably

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<v Speaker 1>some of my first encounters with tattoos were individuals saying

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<v Speaker 1>a church environment who were veterans and had been sailors

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<v Speaker 1>or otherwise engaged in the Second World War, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would have these sort of faded miss shape and tattoos

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<v Speaker 1>that may have once been mermaids or or or just

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<v Speaker 1>naked ladies or whatever, but had slowly turned into more

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<v Speaker 1>sort of green blurs on their arms. And you can

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<v Speaker 1>see the appeal because you know, here you have back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day someone looking at these tribes, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see how sailors who consider themselves a community and

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves like a tribe might want to use as

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<v Speaker 1>bonding as well, or to tell stories about their travels. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and they're of course engaging and often risky employment

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<v Speaker 1>out there on the on the high seat. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have every reason to want to make something a little

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<v Speaker 1>permanent in your flesh when you're dealing with all of

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<v Speaker 1>this uncertainty. So you won't be surprised to know that

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<v Speaker 1>it became so popular that in December eighth eight someone

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Samuel F. O'Reilly received a patent

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<v Speaker 1>for the first tattoo machine, a two coil electromagnetic tattoo needle.

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<v Speaker 1>His invention was actually a modification of Thomas Edison's eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six electric pen patent, and O'Reilly saw how Edison's

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<v Speaker 1>methods of ink transfer using a stencil and ink pen

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<v Speaker 1>could be adapted for use in tattooing. And so what

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<v Speaker 1>you have is this machine that just gets improved over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again to the point where they get lighter,

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<v Speaker 1>easier to handle, safer, and less painful, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>better inks. Yeah. I'm glad you mentioned the ink, because

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<v Speaker 1>because the ink has has has varied a lot, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty uh, it's pretty stable. These days, it tends to

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<v Speaker 1>be more of like a vegetable based pigment. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the past you've seen him seen it made from anything

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<v Speaker 1>from from soot to metal salts um. But again, nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>you go into a tattoo parlor, if you're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an on the level tattoo, it's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be something more vegetable based, unless it's something super cutting edge,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll talk about in the next episode where we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the future of tattoos. Don't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>that away, but the tattoo gun, Yeah that the technology

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<v Speaker 1>basically hasn't changed all that much. It's it's got there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a refining process over the years where it gets

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<v Speaker 1>gets better and better because you can still build a

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<v Speaker 1>very crude tattoo gun and uh and do the work

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<v Speaker 1>yourself or have your cellmate do it, which we don't recommend,

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.080
<v Speaker 1>do not recommend even getting into a situation where you

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<v Speaker 1>have a cellmate in the first place. Yeah, it's worth

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out. I believe the FDA does not technically approve

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<v Speaker 1>of tattooing or even Hannah tattoos by the way, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>hinna really, because I was I was looking at one

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<v Speaker 1>of the um the more cutting edge techniques it will

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<v Speaker 1>discuss later. I saw a note that it was not

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<v Speaker 1>approved by the FDA, so I kind of looked into

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit as well, what does the FDA approve of?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh uh, it seemed to indicate that the FDA

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<v Speaker 1>is really does not approve any of the tattooing. So

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Huh, they're kind of old school like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you are talking about putting ink into your skin,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't really expect the FDA to be two

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<v Speaker 1>behind that. Yeah, let's talk about that. This machine is

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<v Speaker 1>moving a solid needle up and down to puncture the

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<v Speaker 1>skin between fifty and three thousand times per minute. The

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<v Speaker 1>needle penetrates the skin by about a millimeter in deposits

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<v Speaker 1>a drop of insoluble ink into the skin with each puncture.

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<v Speaker 1>And now, when those tattoo needles are punching the skin,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going through the epidermis, the outer layer of the skin,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they drive into the dermis, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>second layer of the skin. And that layer is modeled

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>with nerves and blood vessels. And if the tattoo artist

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is shading the design, then they're using this um shader needle,

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>which is comprised of several needles in a single bar.

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise they're just using one single line needle. So again,

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>epidermis is the outer layer. Dermos is the second layer.

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 1>So when you're looking at a tattoo, you're looking through

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the epidermis into the dermis. That's where the actual ink

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>is contained. And that's really important because that has a

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 1>lot to do with why they don't fade in the

0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>first place. Yeah, because you know, obviously there can be

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>It depends on where you get the tattoo, depends on

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the wear and tear, depends on a number of factors.

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Tattoos do fade over time. If you were some sort

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of you know, I would love to see this attack

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 1>in some sort of fiction where there's an immortal character,

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>be it you know, kind of like a highlander or

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a vampire situation. What happens when they get that tattoo

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and they actually live five hundred, six hundred years. How

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>awful would that tattoo look over the course of centuries? Yeah,

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of, I love mom. It would just be like

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:21.159
<v Speaker 1>our mom um. Yeah, because if it were just up

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to the epidermis, that first layer, they would slaw off.

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Now consider that we shed fortyo skin cells an hour.

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 1>That's about a million a day. Yeah. In fact, that

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the body replaces itself with a largely new set of

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>cells every seven years to ten years. Uh, and some

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of our most important parts are revamped even more rapidly.

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So we have red blood cells live for about four months. Uh.

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Those poor cells that line your your acid filled stomach,

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>they're lucky the last like five days. Meanwhile, cells in

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the sculptal system are consistently regenerating, but a full turnover

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:57.959
<v Speaker 1>takes a full decade. So you know, we're constantly rebuilding

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>our bodies as we as we go through live we're

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>consuming food and we're consuming nutrients, and we're building everything

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>back up again. And yet the tattoo remains mostly stationary,

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>right because it's part and personally because it's sort of

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:16.440
<v Speaker 1>trapped in the dermist, that second layer, but also because

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of your immune system. And what I mean by that

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>is that every puncture signals to the body to begin

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the inflammatory process. So you have immune cells racing to

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>those puncture sites, and then you have special cells called macrophages,

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>and they begin kind of while saying quotes, eating the

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>dye in an attempt to clean up the inflammation that's

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>causing and then the rest of the dye gets soaked

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 1>up by skin cells called fibroblasts. In the fiber blasts

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>along with a lot of those macrophages, they kind of

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>they suspended in the dermists in perpetuity. And so that's

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>what you have showing through the skin. And of course

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the dermist is is more stationary than the epidermis. The

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>epidermis is constantly slapping off, but but the dermist is

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>uh is a little more set in stone, if you will.

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>And I really think what's interesting about this is it's

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a story about the immune system helping this process to

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 1>keep the ink in place in your body. Yeah, and

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>then ultimately you have that you have inc that's just

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>not it's not small enough to be a factor for say,

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>white blood cell. So you know, their University of Pittsburgh

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Medical Center dermatologist James B. Bridenstein pointed out in Scientific

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>American article the tattoos remain in the skin because the

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>ink particles are too large to be ingested by the

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>white blood cells that patrol the body in caraway foreign bodies.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's it's kind of like you know,

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>police officers walking in front of some graffiti art on

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a wall. It's not their jurisdiction to to deal with

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it's removal. They're not going to remove, and the white

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>blood cells are saying, hey, it's not my problem. This

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>thing is too big to be an issue to me anyway, right,

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think it's interested with macrofacies are trying,

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and some of them are successful in carrying away the

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>die particles. Well, others they just kind of sit there

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>with it and their their bellies really, yeah, suspended forever

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in the dermis. Alright, So this of course brings up

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the question, how do we remove tattoos? How do you

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>get rid of this this this awful tattoo that you

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>say got on spring break back in n Or or

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>a lover's name that no longer seems uh, seems appliable,

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>like one that comes to my mind as a as

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>a wrestling fan. There's of course the wrestler uh that

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>goes by the name the Undertaker, And for a while

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>he had like one of his past wives, her name

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>was Sarah, and he got her name tattooed on his throat,

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>so it was very, very prominent when you would see

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.479
<v Speaker 1>him perform that that Sarah meant a lot to him

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>because her name was on his throat, and then eventually

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the name was gone and uh, and he was no

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>longer married to her. So you you might wonder, how

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>do you get rid of Sarah? How do you rid

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>her name from your throat flesh? I wanted to mention

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that tattoo regret is actually fairly common. According to the

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery, the number of people

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>undergoing laser tattoo removal increased or be three percent from

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eleven to two thousand and twelve. I

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, just like a bad year for for tattooing.

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And there's a two thousand and twelve British Association of

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Dermatologist survey that found that nearly one third of people

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 1>suffer they say suffer from tattoo regret. To be fair,

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>this survey was really small, like respondents men, women, and

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the most tattoos were done by a professional, but half

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>of the patients were over forty, which tells the story

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of these tattoos were done in the

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>younger years, between eighteen and twenty five years old. See,

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>it was a youthful indiscretion that they want to to

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>actually erase from their flesh when they're an adult. Yeah,

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and then occasionally to you'll have medical complications. Um. The

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>New England Journal of Medicine described contaminated inc causing infections

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of non tuberculosis myso bacteria. It's really difficult to treat

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and really the only option is removing that tattoo. I've

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>also heard that sometimes tattoo removal is useful for people

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>who are who are very much still into their tattoos,

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>but essentially becomes a tool of retouching past tattoos. So

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you you have some sort of you know, star or

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 1>name or an emblem, and it's maybe it's faded a

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit or just not maybe it wasn't of the

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>same quality as you. You want your other tattoos and

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you you don't want to raise it completely, but you

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.959
<v Speaker 1>want to touch it up, and tattoo removal techniques can

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>be used to essentially make it look better. Indeed. Um, now,

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>when we get to the actual mechanics of tattoo removal,

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>just remember about the macrofishes and this, you know, the

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>dyes being too large right to break down in the

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>dermis and recall the information because when you are trying

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to remove a tattoo, what you're basically doing is aiming

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 1>a laser at it and breaking it down into tinier

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and tinier particles so that those macrofiges can consume it

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and take it away into the bloodstream to be flushed

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>out of your body, break it down to a level

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that they can handle it, and to a level to

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>where it their business to handle it. And most tattoos

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>require at least three to four treatments. They're spaced about

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>eight weeks apart to remove. The cost can range from

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>several hundred to several thousand dollars, depending on the size

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and the location of the tattoo. And it turns out that, um,

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>just black and white tattoos are the easiest to remove

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>because those that black dye is easier to break down

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>with a laser. It's interesting. I would have thought that

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe some of the other colors would be easier to

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>break down, but I guess the black is really stark,

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's just it responds better to the laser. Now, um,

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the removal is described as someone snapping a rubber band

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 1>at your skin over and over again, so it's it's

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>another sort of painful ritual that you go through um

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>to to to exercise some force, some symbol or some

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>some presents from your life. Of purging. Yeah right, it's

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>almost like self flagilation. Yeah, I mean, and a great

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>way to I guess, end to break up or a

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>marriage or something. You just actually just pay someone to

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 1>use a laser beam to just blast their name out

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of your skin and let your your body's immune system

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>consume it. You can say that too. You can be like,

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>right now, you, I'm purging you from my blood. Yeah,

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>my immune system is is eating the last of you now, Sarah. Now,

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>given the number of individuals who end up needing to

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>have a tattoo removed, it's it stands to reason that

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>we would want to develop inc that is more easily

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>removed to make tattoos in a sense a little less permanent,

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>knowing that we're going to get tattoos so we don't

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>want to keep forever. I was thinking about that. I

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is good for the noncommittal set like myself.

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 1>He was like, Okay, maybe I'll get one if I

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>know that it's going to break down much easier with

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a laser. And that brings us to UH to the

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>special Infinity Inc. Manufactured by what's the name of the company,

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Freedom to Ink, freedom to eat, because yeah, freedom to

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>be me, you and me. But with the caveat that

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>we can we can erase things that we put into

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>our flesh. And the idea here is that you just

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>have a a die that is easier to remove because

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.439
<v Speaker 1>the diet is stored in microscopic capsules uh that will

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.200
<v Speaker 1>stay in the skin for good, but are more easily

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>broken down by the laser. So it's basically, let's make

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>an ink that is easier to remove with the accepted technique.

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing magic about. You can't just rub them the

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>magnet on it and make it go away, but it

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>makes it easier to get rid off with the traditional

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>means of tattoo removal. Again about the macro fuses and

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the size, right, So if you can get that die

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>particle as tiny as you can and just suspend it

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>in a polymer bead, then when you aim that laser

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 1>at it and it combust that polymer bead, than it's

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>so much easier to deal with by the body. And

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>it seems like this uh, the sink is becoming more

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and more accessible and more and more tattoo parlors around

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the world. But it does still kind of seem like

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>an easy way out, like like why why do you

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 1>want to have that? Is having that escape route in

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 1>place seems a little against the idea of of the

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>permanency of the whole point anyway, Yeah, but I don't know,

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess it would be it would be definitely beneficial

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I could see for for those medical tattoos we were

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about, particularly ones used in radiation treatments, because in

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>many cases hum individuals who undergo that kind of treatment afterwards,

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>even though we're talking about very small dots, they might

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>want to get rid of them because it's it's it's

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a permanent sign of this, uh, this this ordeal they

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 1>had to go through. So or maybe it's just something

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that they should always offer when someone is getting a

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, a girlfriend or boyfriend's named tattooed, like how

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>do you want to upgrade a bit and go to

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>this so other ink, you know, the sort of offered

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 1>as a as a you know, behind the counter kind

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>of sale. It's like, hey, I know she means a

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>lot to you, but trust me, five years show now,

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>who knows I don't know why the tattoo artists is

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>talking like that. Yeah, well, you generally want all your

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>relationship advice from a tattoo artist generally speaks Oh, I

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>think a tattoo artist could provide great relationship with us.

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding? They probably have seen everything and probably

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>know more about the human experience than most of us.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I've heard a friend of a friend used to work

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>at a tattoo parlor in Athens, Georgia, and supposedly the

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>parlor had a at a wall of shame in the

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>back where they would put the particularly bad tattoos that

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>individuals had had paid for like their own workmanship, or

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 1>just like more of like the like hey I want

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>this dolphins sitting on a lazy boy. I think that

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, you know, or particularly like racist tattoos,

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>just things where you're like, oh, why would someone do that?

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it probably you know, there was a range

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>from just the the the head scratching tattoos to the

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>purely awful uh tattoos. I have a challenge for you

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>guys out there. You come up with the tattoo that

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I should get, and I'm not saying I'm gonna get it. Okay,

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying because you know, I'm noncommittal, but I'm

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>intrigued by it. Christian Stein Metts of uh stuff of

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>genius in other house efforts um joints, I suppose um

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<v Speaker 1>he and I were talking one day and saying that

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<v Speaker 1>we should get all get like one bonding tattoo and

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<v Speaker 1>what should that be, And of course the house of

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<v Speaker 1>logo came up as an idea, which is a question

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<v Speaker 1>mark if you guys aren't familiar with it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we thought, yes, tramp stamps of the House to works logo.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we quickly decided that's a terrible idea and

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<v Speaker 1>so confusing for anybody who might be amorously involved with us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it does it. Yeah, I can see that being problematic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well maybe we should put it. We should all get

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<v Speaker 1>it right here on our third eye in the penney

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<v Speaker 1>on Gland. Yes, over the should probably pick one chakra,

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<v Speaker 1>Just go pick one of these chakras that it relates

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<v Speaker 1>most to your The sort of content that you produce

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<v Speaker 1>is for how stuff works, and that's where you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Yeah, what are the car stuff guys

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? Oh? Which which chakra is the automotive chakra.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the pelvic regions. Yeah, alright, So there

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<v Speaker 1>you have it. UM A crash course in some of

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<v Speaker 1>the some of the interesting points of tattooing history and

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<v Speaker 1>culture that that we found interesting UM as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the science of tattoos, the science of tattoo removals. And

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<v Speaker 1>in our next episode we're going to look to some

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<v Speaker 1>of the more cutting edge UH and indeed the near

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<v Speaker 1>future applications of tattoos, the future of tattooing. So look

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